You are absolutely spot on. I've been shouting the same. Some gamers need to forget how it used to be and focus onto the future. This Xbox strategy will make Xbox a market leader. Playstation will get left behind eventually unless they also open their mind. Xboxes strategy will mean the Xbox survives and is able to make some of the best games possible. Therefore gamers benefit.
I can easily understand the frustrations of someone who invested into the Xbox Series ecosystem only to see many of those games going to other platforms while the players don't get the competitor's games. Play any game on any device sounds like a dream, but we're not remotely close to being there yet, and some are going to fare better than others in the process.
This is why Play Anywhere is such a huge feature. Buy a game once and you can play it anywhere that supports the Xbox ecosystem. Buy a game for PS5 you have to buy it again full price on PC. And on top of that Game Pass is the best subscription on the market in pure value.
when you are a tech company you are always look at how you will evolve! ms has the power and money to do it and of course gamble on a different future! If we are stuck in a "plastic box" and a 30 year old idea then we just can't understand the big picture! The goal is the monthly user, not the device! More users in your ecosystem, more money in your coffers to develop your future! Well said, and I think that's where all companies are headed, whether we're talking about blue or red fans.
Games are a big reason people buy console,your telling me that xbox putting their games on Playstation is not a spit in face to xbox gamers who were waiting and lied too years now,your telling me that Playstation players getting to play indiana jones and uncharted gears of war halo god of war while xbox players not getting Playstation games is not an insult to xbox gamers? The gaslighteding by some of these youtubers are insane
It doesn't bother me that more people play Xbox games and the devices they want, the problem is that Sony doesn't bring their games to Xbox. An example is Lego Horizon that comes out for Nintendo but not for Xbox and that is obviously not fair that Xbox throws its games at Playstation but Sony doesn't give anything to Xbox.
Game franchises everywhere is a good thing If the profits are undeniable, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony starts putting some of their old games on Xbox since they already started putting them on PC
Nice way to explain it Jon! Agree. Ultimately exclusives of single players AAA games aren't moving the needle with today's young adults. The pitch will be value, convenience and innovation of the ecosystem.
At the end of the day, an Xbox is a box that sits under your TV and plays games - that’s all that matters. Sure - it might not be able to play Returnal or The Last of Us, but it can play Splinter Cell, Half Life 2, Metal Gear Rising and the Silent Hill HD collection, plus many more games from those eras via backwards compatibility. I can buy a Series S console for half the cost (more or less) of a PS5 (or sign up to the All Access plan for a small monthly cost). And every iteration of the Xbox has that familiar UI and ecosystem. It’s a perfect budget/casual console that is competent at playing games. People are far too dramatic, it’s not that deep.
Well we finally got that platinum achievement at least... I still can't see a future where this doesn't continue to hurt xbox hardware sales to the point it's deemed unworthy by Microsoft but I hope I'm wrong. Playstation sill continue to keep games off Xbox while Xbox gives all games to playstation, as a casual gamer or a new gamer in the next few years, why would you pick the console with the least amount of options in terms of games?
My issue with gear ecosystem is that it's a bunch of operate access points that are incongruent with each other. Xbox PC is NOT the same as streaming, is not the same as console. It's am ecosystem in name only.
I agree, it's almost necessary with the high costs of game development today, that they almost have to put their 1st party titles on other platforms. However, I think it's the way Xbox is doing it is the problem. Xbox has a smart strategy when it comes to the software and Gamepass being profitable. But they are actively harming the future of their Xbox console hardware by pushing gamers to play their games pretty much everywhere other than on Xbox hardware. For us gamers who do not want to see Xbox stop making actual Xbox systems, we see the writing on the wall that their constant slowing hardware sales will eventually lead to Microsoft big wigs telling Phil to go full on 3rd party. Yeah, I know we're getting next gen hardware because it's already in the pipeline, but who's to say that won't be our last generation of hardware. I really don't care or even like console wars, but I do love consoles. I always purchase every Xbox and Playstation console, sometimes Nintendo, but not as much as the other two. I'm not big on PC gaming, so I'd really hate to see either one of the console companies go full software only. Maybe if they did a timed exclusive to Xbox consoles, then released on PC and other platforms 3 or 6 months later, that would be a little push to their hardware sales foe those gamers who don't want to wait. I just want to see each hardware maker stay strong and competitive in the market. They need competition to stay innovative.
I understand what they’re trying to do BUT the console should be the main focus with everything else supplementing the console experience. A bit like the Nintendo Switch, where you can play docked and supplement that experience by playing undocked. With the Series S they are practically sitting on a goldmine and not even realising it. Think about it, for whatever reason half of PlayStation’s user base is still on the PS4 with a couple of million still on PS3’s. This could be due to the cost of the PS5 or these people are more than happy to just play on a casual basis. These are the people Xbox should be enticing onto their platform. A Series S is practically the cheapest current generation console on the market. Cheaper than a Nintendo Switch OLED here in the UK. A Series S will be the most affordable way for the casuals to Play Grand Theft Auto 6 on release. Good luck playing it on Gamepass.
Well that's a shame. I didn't realise a singular opinion piece from just me would make you tune out. I'm just expressing what I think is going on, heaven knows why you'd take it all so personally. It's just video games. - Sik
@XboxEra I haven't taken it personally and it's just not this piece that has turned me off Xbox era. This is not the first time this sentiment has been shared on this channel, either by yourself or Jesse. It's the whole argument "why wouldn't you want more people to play games?" Basically implying that if you don't agree with Microsoft's strategy you are some sort of petulant child. I have owned an Xbox console since the original one and have had it as my preferred place to play and always advocated for it. Microsoft has a history of mismanaging its hardware and then shutting it down. Why do you think this will be any different? Microsoft says that you don't need an Xbox. Why would anyone buy one? Could you recommend anyone buy one? Why would developers create an xbox version of their game? They are already not prioritising the console and even skipping it all together.
@@XboxEra I do hope these "journalists" and gamers line up to give you an apology when Star field eventually comes to playstation, especially Alanah Pearce.
@Mightyguybrush2 I don't disagree that Microsoft is usually awful at this stuff. But I look at the actual health of the overall industry, and well, I personally feel something has to change. I totally understand folks not liking the change, I wrote an entire piece empathising with those individuals. Appreciate the discussion though! ❤️ - Sik
@@XboxEra Maybe they need to look at their development process? Reduce costs and streamline the process. We are at a point where if a developer makes one bad game they get shut down.
In Phils own words shipping a game on PS gives Sony 30% that they use to take away from Xbox. That will be easier for them with a shrinking Xbox base. There will be more Final Fantasys, Silent Hills, KOTOR remakes, Lego Horizons, WuKongs etc. instead of "exclusives" there will now be games "exclusively not on xbox"
Let's see: Square Enix, Capcom, Atlus, Koei Temco, have all come out recently and said that all games will be multi platform going forward. All Sony first party games are going to PC so are following suit.
Xbox somehow still hasn't learned from the Xbox One, that gamers are stubborn and are so adverse to change that constantly trying to be hyperaggressive in pushing said change on consumers will not actually indoctrinate them into that new normal, but simply prompt them to leave and go to another platform or place that provides the service they're more comfortable with. Everything about this campaign regardless of intent, screams a 2013-level misfire in terms of not actually capturing an audience that exists, because nobody buys stuff like Smart TVs or streaming sticks to play video games. Cloud isn't the future, it's a feature of it. All you're doing is just alienating the people who actually dumped 500 dollars into your platform and your hardware more crucially. They're more likely to use cloud gaming because it's additive to their experience as a hardware user. This other audience buying a TV or using a non-gaming laptop for the express purpose of gaming, just doesn't exist
There is quite literally nothing they can say that somebody won't bitch about. I love my Xbox, but I play most of my Xbox games on my PC. That's just me, though. Game Pass gives me games that I don't have to buy individually (yes I understand I subscribe and technically pay). The VAST majority of my gaming is because of Game Pass. I have a friend with an 18 year old son. He also has Game Pass. I have another friend with a wife who has Game Pass. Game Pass is the answer. Cheers, mate.
PlayStation is also going multiplatform I mean there are also developing games for Nintendo switch now I mean the Lego game should have been exclusive to PlayStation, PlayStation did have exclusive Lego games of the past and now it seems that PlayStation is also considering going multiplatform just like Xbox. Sony May not be doing it right now aggressively, but possibly during the PlayStation 6 era when everything is super expensive to develop Hardware PlayStation might actually consider putting their games everywhere when consoles are too expensive for the consumer, and let's also not forget that it's getting to the point where even PlayStation is now going to consider putting their games on PC day one soon.
I think the difficulty here is that Xbox titles on rival platforms doesn't exactly enrich their ecosystem offering. In fact, it's often the inverse. Take what Phil said about Sony using their 30% cut of Microsoft games to take games away from the Xbox ecosystem. We know Sony has been trying to moneyhat as recent as Wukong and Crimson Desert (Pearl Abyss thankfully said no). As for the thought experiment, while I agree more games for everyone is a broadly good thing, it's oftentimes a "rule for thee, not for me". Because Xbox is giving away games right now for nothing in return, losing a key Selling Proposition. Now, to play devil's advocate, PS is getting better on that Reciprocity side (At the very least they won't stop developers from acquiring games and porting - see Predator and obviously Death Stranding). But right now it feels like the core Xbox consumer is the one "losing" here. As for their broader ecosystem strategy, multiple entry points is a strong potential differentiator. But I feel they are going heavy on this message before their offering is refined enough to genuinely work within the space. Cloud is still missing purchasable games (soon to be rectified supposedly), the mobile store is delayed, the PC store is improving but still suffering from adoption and technical issues. Which leaves the Console as the core experience that pivoting away from at this precarious time risks the entire foundation of this ecosystem strategy. And porting games to competing platform risks people even adopting into your ecosystem in the first place.
You guys are finally making sense, rather then focus on excluding people from Xbox games. Xbox is being inclusive by being more everywhere. More people playing more games is never a bad thing. Only console fanboys worry about things like exclusives abd console sales and who is selling how much hardware. Im really excited when phil Spencer talked about more acquisitions because that means more games in gamepass.
Agree? Disagree? Think I'm a big raging Xbot? Sound off in the comments below! - Sik
I think the Xbox Era might be over Sir
You dudes say that for 10 years and its still the old b.s! No brad sams
It's not about Exclusives... its about talking you guys off cliffs
Great Article SIK! It's time we start yelling this from the rooftops because it seems folks don't get it.
The simple fact that Phil had to get out there and be like "we're still making consoles" let's you know the marketing campaign is going well lol.
You are absolutely spot on. I've been shouting the same. Some gamers need to forget how it used to be and focus onto the future. This Xbox strategy will make Xbox a market leader. Playstation will get left behind eventually unless they also open their mind. Xboxes strategy will mean the Xbox survives and is able to make some of the best games possible. Therefore gamers benefit.
You make great realistic, points, man I just don’t think the band boys are ever gonna let up on their insane obsession with hardware boxes
How dare you make a rational thought provoking video that is clear and concise and makes absolute sense
I can easily understand the frustrations of someone who invested into the Xbox Series ecosystem only to see many of those games going to other platforms while the players don't get the competitor's games.
Play any game on any device sounds like a dream, but we're not remotely close to being there yet, and some are going to fare better than others in the process.
This is 100% the correct take away here.
This is why Play Anywhere is such a huge feature. Buy a game once and you can play it anywhere that supports the Xbox ecosystem. Buy a game for PS5 you have to buy it again full price on PC. And on top of that Game Pass is the best subscription on the market in pure value.
when you are a tech company you are always look at how you will evolve! ms has the power and money to do it and of course gamble on a different future! If we are stuck in a "plastic box" and a 30 year old idea then we just can't understand the big picture! The goal is the monthly user, not the device! More users in your ecosystem, more money in your coffers to develop your future! Well said, and I think that's where all companies are headed, whether we're talking about blue or red fans.
Great video, clear as day and on point again 👌
Games are a big reason people buy console,your telling me that xbox putting their games on Playstation is not a spit in face to xbox gamers who were waiting and lied too years now,your telling me that Playstation players getting to play indiana jones and uncharted gears of war halo god of war while xbox players not getting Playstation games is not an insult to xbox gamers? The gaslighteding by some of these youtubers are insane
Fantastic video Jon!
It doesn't bother me that more people play Xbox games and the devices they want, the problem is that Sony doesn't bring their games to Xbox. An example is Lego Horizon that comes out for Nintendo but not for Xbox and that is obviously not fair that Xbox throws its games at Playstation but Sony doesn't give anything to Xbox.
So we asked them to build a 1st party portfolio to be multiplatform? The gaslighting from the xbox community is off the chart here😂🤔🙄🤦♂️
GamePass isn’t real?
Game franchises everywhere is a good thing
If the profits are undeniable, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony starts putting some of their old games on Xbox since they already started putting them on PC
@@javierfhi62you don’t need a xbox for gamepass. Could have bought a ps5 and had gamepass everywhere anyway
Nice way to explain it Jon! Agree. Ultimately exclusives of single players AAA games aren't moving the needle with today's young adults. The pitch will be value, convenience and innovation of the ecosystem.
At the end of the day, an Xbox is a box that sits under your TV and plays games - that’s all that matters.
Sure - it might not be able to play Returnal or The Last of Us, but it can play Splinter Cell, Half Life 2, Metal Gear Rising and the Silent Hill HD collection, plus many more games from those eras via backwards compatibility.
I can buy a Series S console for half the cost (more or less) of a PS5 (or sign up to the All Access plan for a small monthly cost). And every iteration of the Xbox has that familiar UI and ecosystem. It’s a perfect budget/casual console that is competent at playing games.
People are far too dramatic, it’s not that deep.
Well we finally got that platinum achievement at least...
I still can't see a future where this doesn't continue to hurt xbox hardware sales to the point it's deemed unworthy by Microsoft but I hope I'm wrong.
Playstation sill continue to keep games off Xbox while Xbox gives all games to playstation, as a casual gamer or a new gamer in the next few years, why would you pick the console with the least amount of options in terms of games?
My issue with gear ecosystem is that it's a bunch of operate access points that are incongruent with each other. Xbox PC is NOT the same as streaming, is not the same as console. It's am ecosystem in name only.
The new marketing campaign is fantastic and it's literally what they've been telling us for 5-6 years
I agree, it's almost necessary with the high costs of game development today, that they almost have to put their 1st party titles on other platforms. However, I think it's the way Xbox is doing it is the problem. Xbox has a smart strategy when it comes to the software and Gamepass being profitable. But they are actively harming the future of their Xbox console hardware by pushing gamers to play their games pretty much everywhere other than on Xbox hardware. For us gamers who do not want to see Xbox stop making actual Xbox systems, we see the writing on the wall that their constant slowing hardware sales will eventually lead to Microsoft big wigs telling Phil to go full on 3rd party. Yeah, I know we're getting next gen hardware because it's already in the pipeline, but who's to say that won't be our last generation of hardware. I really don't care or even like console wars, but I do love consoles. I always purchase every Xbox and Playstation console, sometimes Nintendo, but not as much as the other two. I'm not big on PC gaming, so I'd really hate to see either one of the console companies go full software only. Maybe if they did a timed exclusive to Xbox consoles, then released on PC and other platforms 3 or 6 months later, that would be a little push to their hardware sales foe those gamers who don't want to wait. I just want to see each hardware maker stay strong and competitive in the market. They need competition to stay innovative.
As someone who was forced to put his consoles in storage during a renovation, you quickly understand how invaluable the Xbox ecosystem is.
"Every screen is an Xbox"
Everybody thinks it's silly
"This is an Xbox"
Everybody loses their mind
Same message. Different reaction.
Literally, the only video about the subject that actually understands their strategy
Yes. But the strategy most likely Will not work
I understand what they’re trying to do BUT the console should be the main focus with everything else supplementing the console experience. A bit like the Nintendo Switch, where you can play docked and supplement that experience by playing undocked.
With the Series S they are practically sitting on a goldmine and not even realising it.
Think about it, for whatever reason half of PlayStation’s user base is still on the PS4 with a couple of million still on PS3’s. This could be due to the cost of the PS5 or these people are more than happy to just play on a casual basis. These are the people Xbox should be enticing onto their platform.
A Series S is practically the cheapest current generation console on the market. Cheaper than a Nintendo Switch OLED here in the UK.
A Series S will be the most affordable way for the casuals to Play Grand Theft Auto 6 on release. Good luck playing it on Gamepass.
Peak damage control and copium
This is why I don't watch/listen to Xbox Era content anymore.
Well that's a shame. I didn't realise a singular opinion piece from just me would make you tune out. I'm just expressing what I think is going on, heaven knows why you'd take it all so personally. It's just video games. - Sik
@XboxEra I haven't taken it personally and it's just not this piece that has turned me off Xbox era. This is not the first time this sentiment has been shared on this channel, either by yourself or Jesse. It's the whole argument "why wouldn't you want more people to play games?" Basically implying that if you don't agree with Microsoft's strategy you are some sort of petulant child. I have owned an Xbox console since the original one and have had it as my preferred place to play and always advocated for it. Microsoft has a history of mismanaging its hardware and then shutting it down. Why do you think this will be any different? Microsoft says that you don't need an Xbox. Why would anyone buy one? Could you recommend anyone buy one? Why would developers create an xbox version of their game? They are already not prioritising the console and even skipping it all together.
@@XboxEra I do hope these "journalists" and gamers line up to give you an apology when Star field eventually comes to playstation, especially Alanah Pearce.
@Mightyguybrush2 I don't disagree that Microsoft is usually awful at this stuff. But I look at the actual health of the overall industry, and well, I personally feel something has to change.
I totally understand folks not liking the change, I wrote an entire piece empathising with those individuals.
Appreciate the discussion though! ❤️ - Sik
@@XboxEra Maybe they need to look at their development process? Reduce costs and streamline the process. We are at a point where if a developer makes one bad game they get shut down.
Playstation is the best xbox
they just better be working on a fallout 3 remake
Exactly. I agree. And this is coming from a guy who NEVER owned a PlayStation.
In Phils own words shipping a game on PS gives Sony 30% that they use to take away from Xbox. That will be easier for them with a shrinking Xbox base. There will be more Final Fantasys, Silent Hills, KOTOR remakes, Lego Horizons, WuKongs etc.
instead of "exclusives" there will now be games "exclusively not on xbox"
Except we've seen the opposite of that, with Square backing away from those deals entirely.
I hate people keep posting this comment as a gotcha without the context, this was said in the court case to act weak..
Let's see:
Square Enix, Capcom, Atlus, Koei Temco, have all come out recently and said that all games will be multi platform going forward. All Sony first party games are going to PC so are following suit.
Xbox somehow still hasn't learned from the Xbox One, that gamers are stubborn and are so adverse to change that constantly trying to be hyperaggressive in pushing said change on consumers will not actually indoctrinate them into that new normal, but simply prompt them to leave and go to another platform or place that provides the service they're more comfortable with. Everything about this campaign regardless of intent, screams a 2013-level misfire in terms of not actually capturing an audience that exists, because nobody buys stuff like Smart TVs or streaming sticks to play video games. Cloud isn't the future, it's a feature of it. All you're doing is just alienating the people who actually dumped 500 dollars into your platform and your hardware more crucially. They're more likely to use cloud gaming because it's additive to their experience as a hardware user. This other audience buying a TV or using a non-gaming laptop for the express purpose of gaming, just doesn't exist
There is quite literally nothing they can say that somebody won't bitch about. I love my Xbox, but I play most of my Xbox games on my PC. That's just me, though. Game Pass gives me games that I don't have to buy individually (yes I understand I subscribe and technically pay). The VAST majority of my gaming is because of Game Pass. I have a friend with an 18 year old son. He also has Game Pass. I have another friend with a wife who has Game Pass. Game Pass is the answer. Cheers, mate.
PlayStation is also going multiplatform I mean there are also developing games for Nintendo switch now I mean the Lego game should have been exclusive to PlayStation, PlayStation did have exclusive Lego games of the past and now it seems that PlayStation is also considering going multiplatform just like Xbox.
Sony May not be doing it right now aggressively, but possibly during the PlayStation 6 era when everything is super expensive to develop Hardware PlayStation might actually consider putting their games everywhere when consoles are too expensive for the consumer, and let's also not forget that it's getting to the point where even PlayStation is now going to consider putting their games on PC day one soon.
PlayStation is doing the same thing the industry is changing Xbox is just saying having game pass is the true exclusive tbh
How many ps 1st party games on Xbox? Ps is telling its users they don't need a ps? If I use remote play I still need a ps.
I think they be one more Xbox console then go cloud and pc only
I think the difficulty here is that Xbox titles on rival platforms doesn't exactly enrich their ecosystem offering. In fact, it's often the inverse. Take what Phil said about Sony using their 30% cut of Microsoft games to take games away from the Xbox ecosystem. We know Sony has been trying to moneyhat as recent as Wukong and Crimson Desert (Pearl Abyss thankfully said no).
As for the thought experiment, while I agree more games for everyone is a broadly good thing, it's oftentimes a "rule for thee, not for me". Because Xbox is giving away games right now for nothing in return, losing a key Selling Proposition. Now, to play devil's advocate, PS is getting better on that Reciprocity side (At the very least they won't stop developers from acquiring games and porting - see Predator and obviously Death Stranding). But right now it feels like the core Xbox consumer is the one "losing" here.
As for their broader ecosystem strategy, multiple entry points is a strong potential differentiator. But I feel they are going heavy on this message before their offering is refined enough to genuinely work within the space. Cloud is still missing purchasable games (soon to be rectified supposedly), the mobile store is delayed, the PC store is improving but still suffering from adoption and technical issues. Which leaves the Console as the core experience that pivoting away from at this precarious time risks the entire foundation of this ecosystem strategy. And porting games to competing platform risks people even adopting into your ecosystem in the first place.
PlayStation has exclusive that R not on Xbox
Ridiculous nonsense Xbox is dead at this point just can the hardware and go full 3rd party
You guys are finally making sense, rather then focus on excluding people from Xbox games. Xbox is being inclusive by being more everywhere. More people playing more games is never a bad thing. Only console fanboys worry about things like exclusives abd console sales and who is selling how much hardware. Im really excited when phil Spencer talked about more acquisitions because that means more games in gamepass.