These headphones are now ridiculously good value now and make them a much easier choice when they are being compared to much more expensive headphones. I bought mine for just £160 Almost half the price of a year ago. They are so good for their reduced price.
I bought them in December 2022. And after 8 months, I am delighted with them. In the salon, I compared it with the Sony Wh1000xm5. Sony have a slightly more transparent and clean top, but the general perception after listening is as if they switched from LDAC to SBC. Volume and powerful delivery. After A800, everything seems flat.
I have tried the sony, sennheisers, the q45's and the q35's, none of them has as good a sound and volume as the technics, the difference is massive. The only fault with them is the wearing sensor that randomly switches them off, you can turn off the sensor to fix this.
Hi, I’m having the same issue with the wearing sensor, playback randomly pauses and have to hit play again. But apart from that I love these headphones, the sound and volume is incredible, and the ANC more than capable.
Aaron you listened my request !! :) thanks a lot for this review, I was really curious if I should go for it instead of my Sony XM4s as those are one of few which use LDAC and for me it is must.
I'm not saying to not get the Technics as I am waiting for the A800's to be delivered tomorrow, but I will say for rock and metal the beats studio pro are awesome on sound quality BUT YOu won't get much else other than sound , comfy enough fit, and medium anc
@@c0uchsl0uch Ahh, actually I've been using this A800 since August, and I will have to say this is the best for rock and metal I've tried so far. Only one issue. If the music is not playing, I can hear the weird pop sound while walking with ANC on and some weird sound when using this for the phone.
@@ArchDragoon-Arm ok, good to know. If that sound bugs me I may return them. I will find out tomorrow but good to know that the a800's sound good with METAL❗🤘
You're a legend for the sound comparison samples, that tinny frequency is my worst nightmare. It's the first one I'd pull out on pro tools. Momentums easy winner for my taste, shame I heard the anc is poor though...
I picked these up because of how much I love my AZ60s. The Momentum 4 also went on sale at the same time and now I'm really struggling to decide which one I like better. The A800 sound amazing for softer and acoustic audio where as the sennheiser is more of an all around tuned device.
I also liked the A800 when I tested it a while ago. But then, when I got a chance to test it, I liked the sound of the Momentum 4 a lot more. In the end I had a hard time deciding between the Sennheiser and the Bowers&Wilkins PX7 S2, which to me sounded as good as the Momentum 4, but tuned differently. Maybe you should give it a shot, might be just what you're looking for. I finally got the Momentum 4, but price and features were the deciding factor in the end.
@@VeitLehmann I think I will stay away from the B&Ws just, given their price point. Both the M4 and A800 tick most, if not all, my boxes. Just trying to decide the sound I like most.
@@McmeYTman Have you checked the latest prices? Here in Germany there's not a huge difference anymore. Momentum 4: 294€, EAH-A800: 271€, PX7 S2: 327€. Where do you live?
Hi Aaron, as I see, you've measured frequency responce of these. Can you kindly share REV measurements with community, or maybe paid subscribers? To use it in squid and exualize properly... Thank you very much :)
Little tips LDAC on default is set on 660kbps (optimised setting for connection/quality) in developper options and need to be set on 990kbps (optimised for quality). You can just use the sony music center app because open the app automaticaly set on 990 that is way faster than going to developper options. In my case i saw that 990kbps lost packets and lag on A800 maube due to the metal next to the bluetooth receiver on the headphone, and my XM3 and XM4 do not have this packet loss on 990kbps setting. Moreover LDAC default to 32bit 96khz which is really high and use a lot of kbps to pass which maybe reducing music quality (i do not found a difference) these settings can be easily changed via the application "bluetooth scanner" with an eye and the word "discover" in his logo.
Other tips: Android uses by default an API called Android Audio Stack or audio Track don't remember which is upsampling or downsampling all media to 48khz 16bit but this API is low quality compared to the internal hardware DAC from the processor like aqstic on snapdragon CPU. To force this high quality DAC you need to use Poweramp and go to audio settings>output>and set the high resolution audio on. But Poweramp only can read downloaded media on your device. Another application called "UAPP" can do the same and read Tidal/Qobuz streaming music, and MQA decoding. But these two applications are not free.
Sony app is setting LDAC automatically to 990 ? really ? Until now I was using app and then going to dev options to switch manually to 990 because there was still best efforts.
@@DamianNocun Not the "headphone" app, it's the "music center" app from sony (maybe you need to go in the parameter of the app one time to set quality optimised) but after when you open the app it switch automaticaly to 990kbps 😁
So i only use iPhone ( no other Apple products) and love listening to good quality music and videos and all ( but not like a audiophile , just a normal day to day user ) , and i have the option to choose from sony ( wh1000xm5 and wf1000xm4 ) , AirPods pro 1/2 . Which one should I choose ?
Do these have a corded feature, or just Bluetooth? I was looking at the Pioneer X10 for Djing, but since they’re only corded, I’m going to end up having to get two different headphones.
@@majipan2719 They do? There’s an X10 version with Bluetooth and corded, or are you just talking about the crappy “CUE”version? Because quality wise they don’t compare to the X10.
Torn between these and the Sennheiser Momentum 4s. Looking for something that offers great sound quality for music, gaming and watching videos while traveling. I’m not exactly an audiophile but I admit I’m turned off by headphones that miss the mark sound quality wise. Any suggestions for these or the M4s
the only issue with these headphones is that the plastic things at the end of the leather headband, cracked after some time, little amount of glue fixed it, but anyway, the sound quality and battery life are really cool. In my opinion, the design should be updated but overall 4.5 out of 5
I love this monster after a bit of eq change and apply the maximum LDAC bitrate, but i can't recommend for active noise cancelling purposes because it has a weird reverb effect and negative impact for sound quality. The passive isolation of these super comfortable memory foam cushions are more than enough for me. The sound signature is very unique, warm like a vinyl without ANC, and the battery life is killer. :)
I own the XM3 for almost 3.5 years now and they still work and look as new. I love how the volume really can go loud...extremely loud if your ears can handle it. Just bought the A800 a week ago and loving it. Not in the beginning though. Although from the factory they sounded a bit "hollow". And not much bass like i was used to from my XM3. After tweaking I found the preset "DYNAMIC" sounded better to my liking. The bass is more cleaner than on the XM3 and mids and high crisp and clear. Overall I further tweaked the sound with PowerAmp eqalizer app and in PowereAmp music app. Now I'm very satisfied with the sound. It has good separation and better sounds take than XM3. Sill not as loud as the Xm3 when using Bluetooth but when connected to my DAC amp using included headphone wires the A800 turns into beastmode!! Very very loud and clean sounding nice quality bass on top of that! Highly recommended ut must tweak fir better sound. I assure you it will deliver. Hopefully it will last me as long as my good old XM3.
do they all really sound as bad as you showed in this video? or is that just a by product of the recording & youtube? If I go to the same song using my $80 Phillips wired headphones
I have the wh-1000xm4 and they do produce a very slight white noise when anc is on. All anc headphones do if I'm not mistaken. It's very low level though and pleasing sounding, like a sea in a distance. Can't comment on the technics but I've heard that sony headphones do better in this regard.
So I am tryna decide if these are for me, so I am going to give what type of listening I am looking for. If anyone who has tested these would be so kind, I would love your opinions on wether they would be a good fit for me based on my asks. So Here Are My Asks/Criterias- • sub $350 pair of headphones • Not overly bass heavy, as I prefer ballads-buuuut I still want enough bass for my gym sessions •At least a 6.5/10 call quality •Either good anc or strong enough passive sound isolation that my music is easily discernible over background noise •Light enough to wear at least 5 hours at a time without major fatigue, but not so light that they feel like a toy •Medium to tighter clamping force, enough to where if I am on a bike, I won't feel unsure of their hold
Also just a lil more info for anyone looking to help me out- I have a higher than normal tolerance for clamping force. For example, the Marshal Major iv on ear headphones clamping force were one of my favorites. I wore those for 10 hours at a time and never felt annoyed by it. Dunno why, but I love a tight clamping force.
I also had the same problem, that noise when turning on the noise cancellation is UNBEARABLE. And I can't return them because I bought them on Amazon. It's a real shame, because when it comes to Technics I expected a lot more.
I bought the headphones month ago for the purpose of music listening and working from home using windows machine. Must admit, I am having trouble with the microphone while using Microsoft Teams. Tried few of the settings but there are times when mic quality drops significantly.
I did the same with Sony XM5 and realized their noise isolation for calls is terrible in open space office while voice quality with Teams was ok. I guess if you look for best integration with Teams, try Jabra headsets. I'm using the Evolve2 65 Flex model. This is the THE headset.
@@39exposures thanks for the recommendation. I just don't like the look of those headphones with "extended" microphone, i.e not built-in. And I see Jabra model you mentioned has that call center vibe, although they look modern.
Using them the 2nd Day and my conclusion: 1) Sound is very open by default. Its kinda V or W shaped. Vocals are more in the backround and it feels like a standard Hall effect is applied. Not enaugh vocals for my taste 2) Build is...awfull, seriously, like real. The buttons wiggle like on 30 bucks cans. Everything cheap plastic except the outer cups (metal). In direct comparsion the xm4 just wins her eon full line. 3) their app is a 50/50, customization yes but not the most important things. No widgets for home display available, only 5 way EQ. Controls on the cans doesnt allow you to control the music, a killer L. General quality issues: The sensor for pausing the headphones is defective on a lot devices, better turn it off because it can lead to sudden music interruption. White noise (i like it) when anc is on.
This headset is really a disappointment the drivers and the acoustic paper is really of very poor quality! A bass that drools a lot of hollow mids, and not very defined highs, poorly located buttons, a noise reduction of the purring of buses and cars, and very medium, and well-cancelled highs. A transparent reticle mode!. In short, a $100 helmet. The only advantage is autonomy, and application that is just, fair. The best choice is the Sony wh1000 m4. For me, which is the best value for money of Bluetooth headphones today.
Ну правильно блин, у techniks эквалайзер отрегулирован высокие задраны вот по этому звук лучше, дураку ясно, надо делать обзор чтобы эквалайзер был ровным
Have these and I love them. It's fully featured and well-built.
Finally!!! The review is out and glad I made the right choice going for the A800.
Flossy gave them triple major go and they are his 5th favorite headphone overall.
Flossy😂
Gotta love flossys singing😂
your boy floss :D
These headphones are now ridiculously good value now and make them a much easier choice when they are being compared to much more expensive headphones. I bought mine for just £160 Almost half the price of a year ago. They are so good for their reduced price.
I bought them in December 2022. And after 8 months, I am delighted with them. In the salon, I compared it with the Sony Wh1000xm5. Sony have a slightly more transparent and clean top, but the general perception after listening is as if they switched from LDAC to SBC. Volume and powerful delivery. After A800, everything seems flat.
I have tried the sony, sennheisers, the q45's and the q35's, none of them has as good a sound and volume as the technics, the difference is massive. The only fault with them is the wearing sensor that randomly switches them off, you can turn off the sensor to fix this.
Hi, I’m having the same issue with the wearing sensor, playback randomly pauses and have to hit play again. But apart from that I love these headphones, the sound and volume is incredible, and the ANC more than capable.
So soundwise these over momentum 4? Some reviewers say the bass is less than m9ment7ms and sony. How is the bass mids highs and soundstage..detail
Aaron you listened my request !! :) thanks a lot for this review, I was really curious if I should go for it instead of my Sony XM4s as those are one of few which use LDAC and for me it is must.
would you recommend this for Rock & Heavy metal music lover? or is there already a better choice at this time? My budget is around 300 - 400USD
I'm not saying to not get the Technics as I am waiting for the A800's to be delivered tomorrow, but I will say for rock and metal the beats studio pro are awesome on sound quality BUT YOu won't get much else other than sound , comfy enough fit, and medium anc
@@c0uchsl0uch Ahh, actually I've been using this A800 since August, and I will have to say this is the best for rock and metal I've tried so far. Only one issue. If the music is not playing, I can hear the weird pop sound while walking with ANC on and some weird sound when using this for the phone.
@@ArchDragoon-Arm ok, good to know. If that sound bugs me I may return them.
I will find out tomorrow but good to know that the a800's sound good with METAL❗🤘
@@c0uchsl0uch so, do you like it?
@@ArchDragoon-Arm
What do you have your EQ set at?
The fit is a little loose, I'm still deciding
You're a legend for the sound comparison samples, that tinny frequency is my worst nightmare. It's the first one I'd pull out on pro tools. Momentums easy winner for my taste, shame I heard the anc is poor though...
I actually am interested in the white headphones you are wearing at 8:18. what are those?
Great video.Thanks
Fantastic review. I actually feel like I know how these headphones will perform with your excellent demos.
I picked these up because of how much I love my AZ60s. The Momentum 4 also went on sale at the same time and now I'm really struggling to decide which one I like better. The A800 sound amazing for softer and acoustic audio where as the sennheiser is more of an all around tuned device.
Tough choice
@@aaronloudnwireless yes it is, and the more I listen to both the more difficult it becomes.
I also liked the A800 when I tested it a while ago. But then, when I got a chance to test it, I liked the sound of the Momentum 4 a lot more. In the end I had a hard time deciding between the Sennheiser and the Bowers&Wilkins PX7 S2, which to me sounded as good as the Momentum 4, but tuned differently. Maybe you should give it a shot, might be just what you're looking for. I finally got the Momentum 4, but price and features were the deciding factor in the end.
@@VeitLehmann I think I will stay away from the B&Ws just, given their price point. Both the M4 and A800 tick most, if not all, my boxes. Just trying to decide the sound I like most.
@@McmeYTman Have you checked the latest prices? Here in Germany there's not a huge difference anymore. Momentum 4: 294€, EAH-A800: 271€, PX7 S2: 327€. Where do you live?
Comparing the Sony and apple ones which should I get if I want best call quality.
Also did u have issues with anc picking up footsteps and movement of the headphones? Or issues with the music auto pausing?
Nope. If there are such issues, not yet.
I have a problem with ANC picking up footsteps, very annoying so I'm using them without ANC or transparency mode
How do you think these headphones would hold up in the gym?
Hi Aaron, as I see, you've measured frequency responce of these. Can you kindly share REV measurements with community, or maybe paid subscribers? To use it in squid and exualize properly... Thank you very much :)
I’m interested to learn if these offer ANC and/or mic capability while plugged in to the source with a cable. I need these capabilities for work.
Great review thanks
The technics sound amazing compared to the other 2
Little tips LDAC on default is set on 660kbps (optimised setting for connection/quality) in developper options and need to be set on 990kbps (optimised for quality). You can just use the sony music center app because open the app automaticaly set on 990 that is way faster than going to developper options. In my case i saw that 990kbps lost packets and lag on A800 maube due to the metal next to the bluetooth receiver on the headphone, and my XM3 and XM4 do not have this packet loss on 990kbps setting. Moreover LDAC default to 32bit 96khz which is really high and use a lot of kbps to pass which maybe reducing music quality (i do not found a difference) these settings can be easily changed via the application "bluetooth scanner" with an eye and the word "discover" in his logo.
Other tips: Android uses by default an API called Android Audio Stack or audio Track don't remember which is upsampling or downsampling all media to 48khz 16bit but this API is low quality compared to the internal hardware DAC from the processor like aqstic on snapdragon CPU. To force this high quality DAC you need to use Poweramp and go to audio settings>output>and set the high resolution audio on. But Poweramp only can read downloaded media on your device. Another application called "UAPP" can do the same and read Tidal/Qobuz streaming music, and MQA decoding. But these two applications are not free.
Sorry for my bad english
Sony app is setting LDAC automatically to 990 ? really ? Until now I was using app and then going to dev options to switch manually to 990 because there was still best efforts.
@@DamianNocun Not the "headphone" app, it's the "music center" app from sony (maybe you need to go in the parameter of the app one time to set quality optimised) but after when you open the app it switch automaticaly to 990kbps 😁
@@theoc1009 thanks Theo, will test it, i was thinking about headphone app indeed
So i only use iPhone ( no other Apple products) and love listening to good quality music and videos and all ( but not like a audiophile , just a normal day to day user ) , and i have the option to choose from sony ( wh1000xm5 and wf1000xm4 ) , AirPods pro 1/2 . Which one should I choose ?
Its wh1000xm4 and wh1000xm5
Do these have a corded feature, or just Bluetooth?
I was looking at the Pioneer X10 for Djing, but since they’re only corded, I’m going to end up having to get two different headphones.
They do
@@majipan2719 They do? There’s an X10 version with Bluetooth and corded, or are you just talking about the crappy “CUE”version? Because quality wise they don’t compare to the X10.
Torn between these and the Sennheiser Momentum 4s. Looking for something that offers great sound quality for music, gaming and watching videos while traveling. I’m not exactly an audiophile but I admit I’m turned off by headphones that miss the mark sound quality wise. Any suggestions for these or the M4s
I am in the same position as you right now. Have you decided already?
@@majipan2719 I went with the Sennheisers. I’m pretty happy with them too.
the only issue with these headphones is that the plastic things at the end of the leather headband, cracked after some time, little amount of glue fixed it, but anyway, the sound quality and battery life are really cool.
In my opinion, the design should be updated but overall 4.5 out of 5
Do you like the Aw920h ANC?
Do I need these if I have AZ80?
These or the audio technica 50bt
WOW. That response is a real turnoff. +-16 DB about. I was thinking of buying them, but not now.
I love this monster after a bit of eq change and apply the maximum LDAC bitrate, but i can't recommend for active noise cancelling purposes because it has a weird reverb effect and negative impact for sound quality. The passive isolation of these super comfortable memory foam cushions are more than enough for me. The sound signature is very unique, warm like a vinyl without ANC, and the battery life is killer. :)
U are everywhere... 👀👀
@@SibTiger33 Unfortunately not in the right place... ;-)
Are they warmer sounding than the Sony’s ? it seems the bass is boomier
In a way they are, but they also have more sharpness in the highs
No they are not bassier than sony's and got worse anc. (I owned them two)
@@theoc1009 thank you , Theo
@@herbcohenflow7867 Go for sony's XM3 or XM4, XM5 has bad basses due to the 30mm driver.
I own the XM3 for almost 3.5 years now and they still work and look as new. I love how the volume really can go loud...extremely loud if your ears can handle it.
Just bought the A800 a week ago and loving it. Not in the beginning though. Although from the factory they sounded a bit "hollow". And not much bass like i was used to from my XM3. After tweaking I found the preset "DYNAMIC" sounded better to my liking. The bass is more cleaner than on the XM3 and mids and high crisp and clear. Overall I further tweaked the sound with PowerAmp eqalizer app and in PowereAmp music app. Now I'm very satisfied with the sound. It has good separation and better sounds take than XM3. Sill not as loud as the Xm3 when using Bluetooth but when connected to my DAC amp using included headphone wires the A800 turns into beastmode!! Very very loud and clean sounding nice quality bass on top of that! Highly recommended ut must tweak fir better sound. I assure you it will deliver. Hopefully it will last me as long as my good old XM3.
do they all really sound as bad as you showed in this video? or is that just a by product of the recording & youtube? If I go to the same song using my $80 Phillips wired headphones
Is it good for pubg iphone
ThanksMuch !.
No problem
I've heard that the Anc on the Technics is very noisy. Whereby the Sony is completely calm. can somebody say something about that?
I have the wh-1000xm4 and they do produce a very slight white noise when anc is on. All anc headphones do if I'm not mistaken. It's very low level though and pleasing sounding, like a sea in a distance. Can't comment on the technics but I've heard that sony headphones do better in this regard.
@@kaasis85thx Perry, I got the wh-1000xm5/wf-1000xm4 and technics eah-az60, all complete quiet.
So I am tryna decide if these are for me, so I am going to give what type of listening I am looking for. If anyone who has tested these would be so kind, I would love your opinions on wether they would be a good fit for me based on my asks.
So Here Are My Asks/Criterias-
• sub $350 pair of headphones
• Not overly bass heavy, as I prefer ballads-buuuut I still want enough bass for my gym sessions
•At least a 6.5/10 call quality
•Either good anc or strong enough passive sound isolation that my music is easily discernible over background noise
•Light enough to wear at least 5 hours at a time without major fatigue, but not so light that they feel like a toy
•Medium to tighter clamping force, enough to where if I am on a bike, I won't feel unsure of their hold
Also just a lil more info for anyone looking to help me out- I have a higher than normal tolerance for clamping force. For example, the Marshal Major iv on ear headphones clamping force were one of my favorites. I wore those for 10 hours at a time and never felt annoyed by it. Dunno why, but I love a tight clamping force.
Have you got any headphones after those 10 months?
@@majipan2719 nope lol
@@SomeSloan So I went with Technics EAH-A800 and I regret nothing. In my opinion they check all the marks you mentioned.
@@majipan2719Thank you for the feedback, I will definitely have to grab a pair of these then!
On other brand when Ldac you cant use eqlizer option in the app.....????🤔...
Yes, I have both A800 and Sony XM3, and last one can't offer EQ with LDAC, but it's sooooo needed
I owned these and could not stand the reverb which can not be turned off. Returned.
I also had the same problem, that noise when turning on the noise cancellation is UNBEARABLE. And I can't return them because I bought them on Amazon. It's a real shame, because when it comes to Technics I expected a lot more.
I bought the headphones month ago for the purpose of music listening and working from home using windows machine. Must admit, I am having trouble with the microphone while using Microsoft Teams. Tried few of the settings but there are times when mic quality drops significantly.
I did the same with Sony XM5 and realized their noise isolation for calls is terrible in open space office while voice quality with Teams was ok. I guess if you look for best integration with Teams, try Jabra headsets. I'm using the Evolve2 65 Flex model. This is the THE headset.
@@39exposures thanks for the recommendation. I just don't like the look of those headphones with "extended" microphone, i.e not built-in. And I see Jabra model you mentioned has that call center vibe, although they look modern.
@@sreckomarkovic896 you can hide that mic while not on the call. That's the trick :)
@@39exposures sounds good. Do you any experience with in-ear jabra headphones ?
Technics failed to deliver a working head fitting sensor in their top tier model ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Technics and audio technica are much better than other brands in same price. Just check to give them chance. My Audio Technica M50xbt2 are perfect
shame for momentum4 in ANC department
A800 much more natural bass than the Sony WH-1000XM5.....XM5 too much bass for my taste
Agreed.even cheap brand outhere copying sony sound signature.i ll go with yamaha lh700a for its weird looks😅
nice
Using them the 2nd Day and my conclusion:
1) Sound is very open by default. Its kinda V or W shaped. Vocals are more in the backround and it feels like a standard Hall effect is applied.
Not enaugh vocals for my taste
2) Build is...awfull, seriously, like real. The buttons wiggle like on 30 bucks cans. Everything cheap plastic except the outer cups (metal). In direct comparsion the xm4 just wins her eon full line.
3) their app is a 50/50, customization yes but not the most important things. No widgets for home display available, only 5 way EQ. Controls on the cans doesnt allow you to control the music, a killer L.
General quality issues: The sensor for pausing the headphones is defective on a lot devices, better turn it off because it can lead to sudden music interruption.
White noise (i like it) when anc is on.
Typical sony slightly muddles out the mids, losing clarity but not a lot.
Technics
Technics sounds like V shaped car crash to my ears.
Sennheiser sounds best!
This headset is really a disappointment the drivers and the acoustic paper is really of very poor quality! A bass that drools a lot of hollow mids, and not very defined highs, poorly located buttons, a noise reduction of the purring of buses and cars, and very medium, and well-cancelled highs. A transparent reticle mode!. In short, a $100 helmet. The only advantage is autonomy, and application that is just, fair. The best choice is the Sony wh1000 m4. For me, which is the best value for money of Bluetooth headphones today.
Which are the most comfortable headphones right now? I didn't like the wh-1000xm5 :(
Qc45 and this
Ну правильно блин, у techniks эквалайзер отрегулирован высокие задраны вот по этому звук лучше, дураку ясно, надо делать обзор чтобы эквалайзер был ровным