SEAL Team 6 Vs. Delta Force Explained By Actual Members
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- Retired Delta Force and Seal Team 6 operators talk with David Hookstead about the differences between DEVGRU and The Unit.
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So you basically just a military nerd who never served huh?
@omarbraddy5052, why does someone have to serve to be an interviewer and have a podcast?..........they don't!
@@omarbraddy5052 and you did nothing, you're welcome for my service 🇺🇲
@@nickjohnson710I think it’s fine to nerd over here and there but it’s a little cringe to fanboy. With the amount of energy some dudes obsess over these guys and money they spent over years on gear and coseplay they could have spent the same time training, join the military and apply for the units or at least maybe join a tier 2 unit. Why not actually attempt to join something you have such a hard passion for such things if you have opportunity?
I mean the honest answer is going to be kept people are scared
@voidwalker9223 You're definitely right about the fanboy thing. It's pretty sad ... But on the other hand, people do podcasts about film and music they don't necessarily have had to be iin
My dad went through BUDs with Richard Marcinko. Standing right behind him in their BUDs pic. Mad Respect to everyone that's served!
Respect to your father as well as everyone who serves.
Marcinko is a LEGEND
My dad had a Budweiser with Marcinko. We have that in common!
@@busterbiloxi3833my guy 😂😂😂
Marcincko Red Cell founder of ST6, God rest his soul.
I’m a retired “DUSTOFF” pilot, and I’ve taken several class with Shrek. He’s a soldier’s soldier. I continue to be in awe of these guys.
What’s a dust off pilot?
Army MEDEVAC/ambulance @@Beholder505
Medevac helo pilot
@@Beholder505 medevac pilot
I was as well. Left the 57th (AA) to retire, and quit flying for close to a decade before going back to HEMS. Now I’m completely retired and miss the rush and the feeling of accomplishment.
I'm just glad they're all on our side.
Mad respect for these apex warriors. I was a young enlisted Ranger Bat guy in the early 80’s…worked with CAG and ST6. I was in awe of these guys as soon as I saw them. ST6 guys looked like NFL dudes…huge with very long hair, was so jealous cuz we had to wear high n tights in the battalion. CAG were always the most impressive (to me, my opinion)…quiet professionals…apex warriors. Retired an army aviator and flew ISR for JSOC as a contractor in later years…22 SAS are absolutely awesome and apex predators as well. Enjoyed listening to their conversation and insights…truly impressive and glad they are on our side!
Ranger from 2015-2022. Worked with all three aswell… men cut from the same cloth, brought up in different environments… apex predictors is the only real descriptor for them.
When i read books on both seal team 6 delta sas they all say there just as good as the other. But i heard a SAS guy say seal team 6 was the best CQB units in the world. His opinion off course. I believe there all equally capable nowadays
Sounds like those guys turned you on.
“Apex predators” lmao
@Don-rl1sm Go say that to another SOF vet in person you coward
CAG are triathletes / ultra marathon runner types.
ST6 are swimmers so are built bigger.
But CAG will outruck them.
All these high level guys deserve praise and respect from all ! I respect every man that dedicates his life to the safety and protection of others ! Salute to all our servicemen out there !
John is a Bad Ass!! Holds NO punches, Said it Best!! Infantry, Ranger, SF and Delta! Success!!
“ I know guys that have killed more people than malaria” I'm done 😆
Lmaoo right.
That was just an ill comment.
That comment was ice cold!😆
😁
Fucken awesome
Chris response is definitely the most comprehensive and objective.
I can listen to that guy for hours
Yes for sure 😊
John 'Shrek' McPhee definitely was. He literally spelled out exactly how and why everything went down.
I was a 2nd batt Ranger for 6 of my 8 yr active duty.
Ive trained with SEAL, Marine Raiders, PJs, SAS. We all have special jobs. I couldn't say who was better
I can Delta
@boza4477 I never had the pleasure, but if you read my comment, I was speaking othe units I trained with!
Attention to detail, sir!!
If you know you know!
@@scraggs11ever British person will obviously say S.A.S and Americans will say delta just because sas has been around longer doesn’t mean there better than delta it’s the person behind the gun that makes the difference between who’s the best both have had failed missions delta only failed one due too a helicopter issue sas has had a few failures so who knows all I know is American forces would wipe British forces off the map in a full blown war
@@Imamchicacgohow the heck do you know Delta have only failed once?? lol! That’s the only incident you know of more like! There are a few missions that have been published that highlight their failures to fully meet mission objectives. But there will be many more that never got reported into the public sphere!
Also, the SAS training (Which SBS also do) set the bar for how special forces should be trained. Where do you think Delta got the blue print for soilders trekking 40 plus miles with 50 pounds of gear being asked to use their own initiative to navigate to various checkpoints? Not gonna entertain the full all out war scenario..British soilders have more to fear from “friendly” fire from Americans causing casualties, never mind the absurd idea of an all out war!
Answering this is like answering who the best NFL team is over a period of time. They are all pros at the highest level. Going to crush it at most things.
I don't know anything about football and extremely little about the military, but isn't the answer to that question, "The Patriots"?
Patriots
Agreed but some just can't except this fact
Tom Brady would make the Delta selection process before Seal Team 6. They're more open to guys who don't fit the 10x CrossFit world champ body type
@@ShadowboostSelection isn't based on body type. The arduous training produces the body type. And yes I served in a combat zone.
I'm just very happy they are all on our side. Hopefully the Army and Navy are continuing to train soldiers and sailors to be the best of the best.
Unfortunately not. Their checking that the men have vaginas and women have penises.
Thanks guys for doing what you do..
I feel all special force groups are special in thier own way!
🔥🔥🔥 Interview Kevin Holland….He was team #6 AND later Delta. And he’s honest.
Wow! All the SEALs I’ve heard talk about Neptune Spear credit the awesome intel for the success of the mission
The intel WAS pretty good, and that CIA lady really worked her ass off. That being said, she DIDN'T have all the facts together at the time the mission was launched. At the end of the day, all she had was a REALLY educated "hunch"(which turned out to be correct). So I could see why DELTA refused to pull the trigger on the op.
All the books i read on them tells me that they do not brag or boost, infact every book nomatter who's it was each seal would say they we're not the best in their units. I don't understand why a lot of people claim they are braggers. And i never hear them say anything negative about delta.
@@mikefitzpatrick43 I think the delta guys are more critical because of the culture of their unit they just seem to be extra squared away. But also remember like the guy said. Several guys have gone from ST6 to Delta but no one goes the other way. I think that says that even people on the teams view Delta as being a step up.
@@darkcircle899 because delta ops would have to go through buds plus deployments and then green team selection. many st6 ops say green selection is already harder than buds plus army dudes don't like water. buds isn't like the old days, the competition just to become a seal is so much harder than 2001 that's why it inflates their ego even more. you gotta think since they got so much ego and pride and wanna do shit, they only think about kicking shit in. if everyone is already a tier 2 and you can only become delta from there they are obviously gonna chose the easier route
@@mikefitzpatrick43 because every interview and book written by those SEALs is all ego and all arrogance
There's a DevGru Operator who became a 160th 60 Aviator: Gary E. He came into the navy with an ATP license.
I'm biased for Delta as I live in Fayetteville, under the umbrella of the greatest counter-terrorist unit on the planet. It's awesome to know those guys shop at the same walmart that I do. But really, It's two different units, two slightly-different missions. The Seals are the aquatic warriors. The D-Boys are the land warriors. Both badass warriors. Which ever team you're runnin' & gunnin' with, Thanks for keeping us safe and killing bad guys. RIP to those we've lost downrange.
So 22 SAS have moved base????😮
@@petermontgomery8707 I'm pretty sure 22 SAS is still in England.
SAS got their ASS handed to them in Northern Ireland 🇮🇪
Bottom line
Gentlemen,
"Sua Sponte"
God Bless
You ALL !!!!
@@jackthelad15you know how active the SAS were in Northern Ireland? You know how many lost in active service? According to who tells the tale the answer is 1 or 14. It’s 1 admitted regiment guy and 14 propaganda KIA by republicans. The answer may lie somewhere in the middle but 14 is 💩 as at no time did the SAS have that number in Northern Ireland and if they did the RA must’ve wiped out 3 full teams 😂😂😂
Thank you for your service guys ❤
All I can say is either team or unit, I'm so happy both are on our side. Salute to our SOF teams, Giants among men
I had a friend that was a Ranger and he talks EXACTLY like the dude at 27:06. With the pauses, the "right" with the pause... everything. RIP man, he was a cool dude Jim Fisher was his name.
Brian Cox is a great actor, of course he comprehended the art of speech. But I didn't knew he served in the Delta.
So wild how much tier 1 content is online now lol they used to be so mysterious
Makes me think if there’s something better then those two groups mysteriously that America is not telling us
Probably not, they recruit from the US population. Vaxxed LGBT gen z.
If you pay attention to the numbers you would see that these guys are not being replaced.
Recruiting is a major problem especially with the special forces.
Opening the door a crack and letting people peak in might bring in some much needed people to fill some spots.
It’s the same reason they let Tim Kennedy fight in the UFC and have a tv show while still in the military.
As an outsider looking in it would seem the SF we’re too good at being the “Silent Professionals”
Also it lets our enemies out there hear some of the stories and maybe think twice about trying to get cute.
I could be wrong though.
Cheers.
Doesn’t make them any less lethal
The most secretive military, non 3 letter, group is Activity. Notice how even Unit and DEV guys will talk about how they "worked with a unit out of VA". Worked with a "special Intel unit". NO ONE talks about activity
Asking which is the more effective group, the best group, between the Unit and Team 6 is completely ridiculous. Seriously splitting hairs. They are amazing awesome groups and something I for one am extremely proud of as an American. I wish I could have been one of those guys. 🤙🏻
The Unit.
@@WillIam79-c7f
Ya, aka Delta Force
I understand your point of view buddy, and I agree to an extent. However we have Tiers for a reason. Everyone has a job to do, and we need the right people doing the job or people die. The reality is that I have worked with both CAG and ST6.. they are all elite warriors of Christ. However there is no doubt that CAG is who you call on when innocent lives are imminently at risk and the mission is practically impossible.... With that being said, I loved working with my Dev guys.. they are all killers.
Shows You have been involved with neither. You know Notnwhat You speak. We KNOW Who Is Better, period. 1st D
@scottkain8977 D out swims Seals at competition, every time.. hmmmm. It's really Not the same. NO One goes from Delta to Seals (even T-6); It Is a clear downgrade.
I always imagine Delta guys as someone you would mistake for an accountant.
Devgru, party hard frat boys.
You didn’t see the SRS interview with Tom Satterly. The delta guys party.
Actually the devgru guys stationed in Virginia are more like rednecks
Everyone is different in every unit or team. Depends on the people there’s no stereo that fits.
Have you seen 'The Accountant' badass muthafucker 😂
They both get things done and they both party
I think it comes down to the talent pool and the unit pulls from everyone.
This is the correct answer I believe as well.
If tasked with fielding a bball team and you only had a 20 man talent pool to draw from, you would be at a major disadvantage against your opposite, who’s selecting from 200.
You should interview Drew Mullins, who was a Navy seal and in an Army SMU.
Best way to compare- how many SEALS get turned away from D vs the other way around? Delta is obviously top of "known" food chain.
You got delta operaters telling you they are basically the same but you fanboys just can't reason with that lol
Key word known!
Do tons of Devgru guys get turned away from Delta? Unless you’re referring to the seal teams as a whole in which case this is a terrible argument considering non-devgru seal teams are a tier 2 unit
@@joshhutch3525there was only one devgru guy to go delta. No devgru guy would leave and try to go delta, doesn’t make sense
No school like the old school lol. Shrek's answer was absolutely the best!
Delta and DEVGRU guys are pretty much cut from the same cloth. Top tier professionals doing amazing work.
Not really. Ironically, delta does more spy and recon work than devgru and they can look like an trying and anyone. It's like seal team 6 in used for hostage rescue now.
@@varun009there thee only counter terrorist units of all SOF units yes really
@@varun009just awful grammar, dude
This is every Reddit/Quora argument made into one video, haha. Also, I LOVE how Shrek answered the "carjacking" question..WITHOUT confirming or denying that the Unit teaches those skills.
Well, it's not like he can or even should answer those questions. Training details are likely under NDA.
John "Shrek" McPhee is so hardcore that when he finally showed up on the screen I backed up 😆. He was not kidding around in this interview, it was like fun time over.
yes
I'll take Don Shipley Jr
@@27dforce why??
Bob Keller is a firearms instructor in my area. I've taken his weekend course. I've never met anyone like him and the way he speaks and the stories he tells and the way he tells them is scary. These guys are smart, fast and straight-up killers. This isn't gangster shit. Imagine an elite-level doctor with all the training and knowledge and experience that it takes to be in that position. Now imagine that same person with the same level of training and thoughtful professionalism, except instead of saving lives their job is to end them. That's how good these guys are. They are the best professionals in the world at killing the enemy and they are the elite superstars of that art. They spend their entire careers analysing how they can become better killers.
The difference between dEVgru and CAG. A delta operator thinking to himself “ we will straight up out badass you, teammate wise, individual wise and wipe the floors with you then won’t bother writing a book to prove it.”
@@CB_2401 i personally know a couple of seals I graduated grad school with. Completed changed my outlook on seals I bumped into overseas. I consider them good friends and they are nothing like Hollywood seals. Then again most seals that write books are devgru. I joke with them all the time saying they act way too much like a green beret, chill and quiet professionals. They have good sense of humor and very humble. They are willing to teach and also take advice due to their transition phase back into the civilian sector. The ones that realize that what they did in the military don’t really mean anything back in the civilian sector. It’s what u know presently that matters. It’s really a humbling experience when im just an army vet and a SEAL thanking and asking for advice. I personally know an army SF, ranger and reached out to Tom satterly. He is by far one of the coolest operators I got a chance to briefly talk to. I personally don’t know any devgru guys and don’t really care. End of the day it comes down to how does that person treat me as a civilian. I graduated grad school with a marine raider and we bumped heads. Guy was a transitioning E-8 still with that military mind set. I was an E-5 with way more civilian and govt work experience but he was stuck on being him. He didn’t like it that I confronted him about it but we kept things professional not arguing like high school kids. Oh and just my personal opinion, I really do think delta would wipe the floor with DEVGRU.
Bills aren’t paid without money
Do the men in uniform turn you on? Which ones make you more horny? The sailors or the army studs?
If ur honor and morals and dedication to ur team members r for sale, then maybe u shouldn't be on the team.
@@Jamesreece762and the delta guys prove time and time again there’s plenty of ways to make it.
The fact that Rob O’Neil said out loud in an interview that Seals will exaggerate or lie about stories that aren’t true is wild considering so many people are coming at him recently about the lies he has allegedly told about killing OBL. He is laughing and admitting that what comes out of my mouth may not be true.
I worked around the SEALS in Iraq . Very young inexperienced they where just some kids with no idea what they where doing on a first Calvary Division battle Field.
@@Mocha69A
Young Squids are punks. Hate everyone including themselves. When they finally get to master chief they settle down.
Shrek hit the nail on the head, Delta is a stand alone unit. That makes Delta better. Personally, I’ll say that’s the only real difference.
Leave it to a "O.G" to wade through the PC (bullsit). Much respect for both organizations.
RIP E. D. Case [SF] and J. Lee [75th Rangers] you are not forgotten from your medic brothers.
That means nothing. Both units have the same people. Doesn’t matter if it’s internal or external.
@@Jamesreece762 so Uber, Lyft, and public transportation is like having your own vehicle, right. You go ahead and keep believing that.
…and SEALS TEAM 6 can only have SEALS. Delta can have people from every branch, even SEALS. If an AF combat controller is not only the best at his job, is physically and mentally capable, has the aptitude, he maybe invited to attempt the qualification course.
What about 24th STS? I mean they do fall under the command of Delta at times as I understand and are basically part of Delta..but I've never been sure exactly where they fit in aside from being the air force's top tier 1 unit
@@dangerouseducation40 are they self supported? They are not. They are a JSOC asset. Doesn’t mean that they aren’t good, I’m just saying that they don’t have their own procurement processes apart from big Air Force and can’t function independently.
So here we are in 2023 and this delta dude flat out says there is no difference in ST6 or Delta Force today. I take from his statement that when he says ST6 and the unit are interchangeable means you will get the same result. So, over the years my guess is that these groups have made adjustments to how they do things. It is also noted that when interviewing guys who served say in the early 2000’s to say 2015, they can only speak to their experience of the time frame when they served. Striving to be better is how it works. I am thankful that these amazing badass warriors represent America.
Ones navy ones army, ones blue ones green, to be a devgru member you have to be a seal already (congratulations x x x) delta you can come from anywhere in the military, the ranking structure is different the slang and language, there technics are different, on specific will be called out if its in near water or in water! There completely different my friend! Im pointing out stuff you probably already know, all the best love from London and Dublin x
It's B's. Delta guys don't go to seal team 6 because of the water. A heard a SBS guy say there and the seals training is harder because of the water element. Something about cold dark deep water seperates the men from the boy's
@mikefitzpatrick43 did you seriously just called the Delta Force "boys"?????
think about it tho ... if ST6 is as good as SFODA ... that's in addition to having the water skills better than all. So..what's that mean..?
Delta guys beat ST6 guys in swimming competitions though
Both badass. Met one of each. Delta guys are off in a good way for what they do. Controlled psychopaths but in a covert way. Seals are more open. Hats off to all. Very few make it.
If I’m a Devgru guy I would say we’re the best as if I was a CAG guy I would say the same . I honestly don’t care who’s better both are the best of the best and I can sleep at night knowing those guys are out there n will defend our country with no questions asked
Respect Spartan ❤
I have a question though. DEVGRU rescued the American and I believe a doctor from the Netherlands in Africa a few years back. CAG always says that hostage rescue is their bread and butter, which it really is. I’m wondering why you guys were chosen to complete that mission. I’m guessing it was who was ready and available at the time or something you just can’t say. I’ve worked with both army and navy operators and they both had me fanboying. I ran more missions with the army side of the house being former Army, but damn you guys are just incredible. All of you. Someone asked me how it felt and I said it’s like being in a fight with Jesus holding the rifle next to you 😂 you guys are always calm in the chaos. Respect
I'll just admit that the men that make up both Delta and SEAL team 6 are bad MF'rs
I feel the same
I’m not qualified to make the distinction between which is better between Delta and 6… I give mad respect to both
You know how to tell if a guy is a Navy SEAL? Give him :30 seconds and he will tell you.
Too funny. Every forner Viet Nam era SEALS I met, it was like the hardest group to get it out of them that they were SEALS. My favorite one was a down and out one who was medically discharged after jumping out of a helicopter into water and breaking his legs. I asked him what branch he served in armed forces, he said "Navy". I asked him what he did. He said, "I kept the water clean". This was in '91.
@@8kigana Vietnam was half a century ago, there's been a lot of change since those dudes
@RyTrapp0 I was describing the difference between those two groups from two different eras and my personal experience meeting them, of course everyone know the changes.
@@RyTrapp0it all changed after the Charlie Sheen movie Navy SEALs lol
Perfect answer. Every terrain has it’s Force
I don’t know, for me - the first question is a bit silly.
Who is more dominant depends on context no? Delta excels in certain things, Seals excel in certain things - and they both have pros and cons.
Not sure why it’s such a big debate as to who’s better. They’re both America’s tip of the spear and deserve mad respect
What VanSant said without saying is that the units are very similar, and the unit who gets the mission is a highly political process of who is in most favor with the politicians at the time etc. It's no accident that the Navy SEALs came online when they did because Kennedy was a navy guy. Politics plays a greater role than people talk about. And the role of the military is to carry out the policy of the US govt, so there's the relationship between which unit gets picked and for what mission.
Yes thank you so much for the information explaining the differences and similarities of each unit👍
I put the roof on ST6's kill house.very impressive building.moving bulletproof walls.overlook walkways.furniture,the whole nine yards.
Did you help build the Bin Laden kill house at "The Point" in Hertford, NC It's a CIA site where tier 1's practice missions before they go if they have time.
@@Montweezy you mean the old blackwater site?but the answer is no I did not.i did do work on Blackwater,when I worked for Gordon Sheet Metal.
@@ronaldbryant9193 No it's something called "The Point" in Hertford,NC I just know it's heavily guarded whatever it is. I think Blackwater is in that area around the great dismal swamp. Or used to be. It could be the same place for all I know. I just heard some Devgru guys talking about it. One of those Seal's was my cousin's best man in his wedding.
I never get bored of hearing Shrek tell stories! Man is a fuckin living legend
That was great, but I wish you had introduced each of those guests and their background Info with some graphic titles.
Awesome video, I really enjoyed all of the interviews. I have to say though that retired SGM you interviewed at the end. That guy is scary as fuck. I would not want him mad at me. That is a killer right there. Retired Army SFC here no Special ops though Just an Airspace/Air Traffic guy.
You should talk to some former RRC operators
Shrek may be an army guy, but he sure swear like a sailor!
Shrek makes ❤ to SEALS to produce sailors....
Oh, and my vote which is meaningless cuz I was not in either unit…CAG, all day all night every time. Besides, I’m retired army….go green. Mad respect for the blue guys too! Both are best in class in the world.
I love this dude, he's happy go lucky ,,but ONE BAD ASS WARRIOR, THEY ALL ARE, ONE BIG BADASS CREW !!!!
Delta CANT go to devgru. Because u have to be a seal. That’s why unit guys don’t go to seal team 6. But u will hear many seals say they had Marines, rangers, green berets and more come to try out for seal training.
Man…Chris VanZant is the picture of a consummate professional.
You’d never have any idea he wasn’t your high school English teacher.
And yet that dude is probably neck and neck with the bubonic plague in terms of bodies.
Wild.
Seal team 6 or Delta Force? Yes, thank you!
Water mission, give me the Seals.
Land mission, give me Delta Force.
Pretty much. it was designed that way anyway.
Chuck Norris was in Delta Force, not Navy Seals.
Therefore, Delta.
Game over.
😂😂😂👍
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Yeah you don't fuck with Chuck!!!!
The most important question of course is, which unit is more diverse and inclusive with better DEI training? That was a joke.
😂😂😂 yup!
Safe to say youd cry like a beech the 1st day
Delta. And they're way better for it
@@Shadowboost Bro I've come to the conclusion that you're a Delta force fanboy/ groupie!🤣🤣🤣🤣 do you dress up at weekends running around your house with NVGs on and a airsoft HK416 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
When Nate said Delta's better because ST6 members join Delta but not the other way around, is that not because ST6 only hires from within the Seals? I've heard Delta hire from a variety of units.
Bro thank goodness our so much for educating people who has no real education on the military. Unit guys can’t go to dev because they would have to be SEALs first
@@CB_2401 Well said brother and true.
🤔 umm & how do you know that for a fact? Because the internet says so. It says publicly known. Key word is publicly! Maybe true or not. Classified info when someone is still active. 😉hooah 🪖 🪂 🇺🇸
Well, you’re wrong. What’s new?
1.) The gentleman you’re referring to who was in ST6 and wanted to come back after 9/11 and joined CAG, he is on record as stating that CAG selection was much more difficult and the CAG guys are more professional and are ahead of ST6 in their tactics and mission sets. He is also on record saying he wished he would have known about CAG much earlier in his career.
2.) The statement about ST6 members joining CAG, but no CAG members joining ST6…he’s not referring to LEAVING CAG to join ST6, he is referring to the lateral transfer between the two Tier 1 units. There is an application process where you can apply to laterally transfer to ST6 or CAG from your respective unit and work within their unit for several years under a special contract. He is saying that there have been multiple ST6 members who have transferred to CAG and even more who have applied from ST6, but you have never seen a CAG operator laterally transfer to ST6. There was a time when JSOC enacted a deal to improve the training and to improve the capabilities of our Tier 1 units that resulted in CAG and ST6 members embedding within each others units in order to share TTPs and get everyone on the same page and build a working relationship between the two units.
3.) If you listen to any of the ST6 guys who talk about the Green Team selection process, they take the majority of guys who make it to their tryouts. They are on record saying that it is a big political ordeal where some guys may be the best of the best, but if they pissed off a ST6 member or weren’t liked, then they would already be pre-selected to fail before they ever get the chance to prove themselves. There are guys who don’t deserve or have the skills to be in the ST6 unit, but because of who they are and how well they’re liked, they are accepted into the teams. The attrition rate is very low. Lastly, if a soldier is able to make it to Delta, there’s no way in hell they are dropping from BUD/S and they could easily make the cut for the Green Teams…
Additionally, the tactics CAG uses is much more difficult and advanced than ST6. For example, when they are assaulting a building, CAG assaults from 360 degrees and from the top and bottom. ST6 assaults a building from front to back, top to bottom.
I heard one Delta guy say that Delta guys are better divers and swimmers than Seals. I wish I could remember where I saw this interview.
I Think That Guys Name Was Dale Comstock He Was A Former Delta Guy I Found A Lot Of What He Was Saying A Little Hard To Believe He Almost Made It Sound Like Delta Force Created The Universe 🤥
@@jaybennett9026 Sir, I will not abide your anti-Delta creationist views.
@@KNIGHTJUMPS I Have No Idea What You Are Talking About But O.K.😁
31:15 is why Shrek is an absolute savage with his responses 😂
Pat Mcnamara will tell you the differences between the two.
Tim Kennedy said it best: better at what?
16:39 You'd never think someone like that, is a Delta Operator. Dude looks like a high school math teacher🤣🤣
An interesting spread of views to hear as a Brit! Thank you!
I think the earlier contributions sum it up quite well. Delta learnt the craft from the most experienced and professional outfit in Malaya. The UK/New Zealand/Rhodesian SAS. Who proved that outsiders can defeat an enemy in the most inhospitable terrain on earth, the Jungle (closely followed by Wales and Scotland - wet, very cold and muddy!).
Delta chose individuals who can operate alone, selection is more lone based, rather than the team based selection process of the Navy. No muscle Mary's that stick out necessary. British are shorter, skinny (some even appear fat); but can out run, and out think the best of them, with very little support, money or technology dependent. It is those qualities that the Unit has adopted, along with a broader selection pool.
The UK SBS and SAS interchange, and select from all units (although the SAS mainly tend to come from the army/RAF Regiment) One big difference, is that many believe the SBS are a tougher more secret outfit, as they can do most of the what the SAS do (RM Mountain Leader course is the longest course in the military); but they then have to do the water based stuff.. climbing oil rigs in the North Sea with heavy kit; kayaking and carrying that kit a very long way!!! Tend to be more of a secretive unit than the SAS. An older unit than the SAS too!The SAS excelled in Mobility Troop which led to the most significant engagement of the first Iraq War. Zero 6 Bravo, 50 SBS a Delta member 1000 miles behind enemy lines; an escape and invasion from 100000 Republican Guard raining down on them.
I would also add, that UK SF due to size, rotate between the different troops - mobility, Air, Mountain and Boat troop; whilst also rotating on anti terrorism duties. Lots of tools in their box.
The SAS also do water based operations, they have a whole boat troop dedicated to it
@@JG-ib7xk Yes you are right, the SAS have Boat Troop which supported the special boat service in the Falklands.
however, the comparison between the two units is significant and acknowledged by SAS members. Firstly, SBS go on and do continuation training in those skills before they are badged. they operate far more frequently and more extensively due to their geography at Poole! A lot more work in submarine, drift diving and dealing with the oil rig/boat rescue; to a much higher standard. Significantly more work using the Klippers and associated kayaks like Nautiraid… members that I have met often comment, they have great upper body strength due to the nature of their work and in some cases, post mountain leaders from the Royal Marines.. , obviously get far more exposure to training maritime skills compared to SAS who are landlocked!
Lets not forget about the SRR, these guys should get some credit too.
Shout out to you guys across the pond!
Delta's number one, but so is Team 6 in water ops. They're different, but they do a lot of the same stuff.
Amazing video thank you!
Before 2005 many say CAG is definitely better. But Gen. McChrystal swaps guys on both sides for training & experience, so ST6 were able to catch up. Since it's been more than a decade of cross-training, it's not hard to imagine they're interchangeable.
yeah no , ones more ambitious (Navy) absolute Solid dudes anywhere that has to do with water
army - the true quiet professionals
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@@M4A1_DELTA6 I was referring to HVT kill/capture and CQB. Of course they have their own specialties.
To be completely honest,if I was in trouble and needed help I would definitely be confident in either group coming to get me because each one is more than capable of kicking the hornets nest and not getting stung
I’d love to know what they’d all say if you asked them who’s better between ST6 and CAG v SAS and SBS.
Good question but anytime I’ve seen any of our branches asked about SAS they are quick to say that they are monsters of tier one. They’re a tough breed of people so I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that
@@aaaooo792you would never hear an American tier 1 operator say that the Brit’s are the best. I’m sure both sides respect each other unconditionally
@@dannystoddard1730 I don’t disagree with that. Anyone in those positions are very capable operators regardless of nationality. Like you said I think there’s a respect between them
My best friend rip was Force Reason in late 90s and at that time he said delta force.
Hi David. Where do I find the entire interviews for these gentlemen, especially the last gentlemen? Please respond and let me "us" know. Great work, my man!
Not David, but I had the exact same question. All interviews are on his channel. The last guy is John "Shrek" McPhee. Just search David and John's name and it'll pop up.
My question: is ST6 or Delta better at certain missions in specific geographical regions, e.g. would ST6 be better equipped and organized to take back an offshore drilling rig than Delta? Conversely, would Delta be better storming a desert bunker? Are their operational capacities identical? Any operators or former military know the answer?
Both units sounds like fun 🫡
Chris VanSant looks like just your everyday guy with his glasses and wouldn't assume that he was a top tier elite operator. Like going to his house for a BBQ and then you see the wall of photos and would be like holy crap...😮😮
I think Delta was modeled after the British SAS and (correct me if I am wrong) most SEALS would admit that SAS is the best at shooting, just based on training (there are fewer SAS than SEALS). So from that I would assume Delta is better.
I know the Delta and SAS selection process are exactly the same and by the sounds of everything I've read or watched, I can't find a damn bit of difference between the two units. And yes Delta was modelled on SAS.
Delta are probably better than DEVGRU at shooting, and from what I've heard from Delta operators. DEVGRU aren't as good in a sudden chaotic situation like when your convoy gets hit by an IED and insurgents open an ambush. But, I do know that one reason they are called DEVGRU, "Development Group" is that they are experts at developing new, novel ways of infiltrating denied areas, which they might just be better at than Delta.
Everyone who brings up DevGru going Delta and not vice versa doesn't understand why this is the case and it's not the gotcha that they think it is. The reason Unit guys don't go to the DevGru is that they aren't qualified as a walk on to DevGru selection, but DevGru guys are qualified as walk on to Unit selection. And it's not about which is better, it's about SQT. Everyone focuses on BUD/s, but they don't grasp the fact that BUD/s is just a minor blip in becoming a SEAL. There's another close to 2 years of SEAL Qualification Training, that is a requirement to become a SEAL, no matter how much of an Apex Meat Eater you are. The guy that was a DevGru operator that reenlisted Army to go to the Unit when 9/11 kicked off explained why he went that route. Some of his buddies that were in the know told him that the Unit was already involved and that would be the quickest way for him to get in the action, so he went Unit instead of going back to DevGru.
At the end of the day, who's better really comes down to one thing: Who's closer and more ready to go on a particular mission. Either organization will get the job done just fine.
100% false
Fact. Guys that can’t make it through green team sometimes try the alternative. I have never heard anything besides that.
@@ianroy4799lol no it's not
Well if they’re already in devgru and leave it kind of coincides with what these delta guys are saying. Why would you downgrade? You wouldn’t. Hence why you don’t see anyone going from delta to st6. If all of them got out and had to go through a waiting period to try out for st6 vs going straight to delta selection then what you’re saying would make sense.
Exactly. You can’t just walk into Six from Delta. You need to be a white side SEAL with multiple deployments. Even if a Delta guy got out, he’d likely be too old to start over at BUDS, let alone make his way all the way to six.
I’m biased bc a family member belonged to one of the two (I won’t say which) so I for sure have one that I few as the superior unit overall. That being said, they’re clearly designed differently to be specialized for specific types of missions, and they’re both the best of the best on earth for their respective purposes. If that weren’t the case we could just have one consolidated tier 1 unit for the entire military. For the US to be able to carry out anything anywhere anytime, I’m glad we have both on our side along with all the other tier 1 units
They are both surgical tools, that are very very good at what they do. They have certain overlapping skills, and the each have their own specialities.
Bros only got one facial expression, the same smile every episode non stop.
Rob said it "SEALS will tell stories even if it is not true" Delta all day baby!
You took statement a bit too literally.
Who’s better Ohio State or Michigan, totally depends on colour you wear. Same difference here. If you’re green you say ACE, you’re blue you say Devgru.
The question is, who would you rather come save you. We all know - you would pick the Unit
Last guy has a lot of resentment 😂😂
Who is the last guy, I want to watch the full episode?
Here's another thing that gets overlooked, you can go from high school, to Navy bootcamp to BUDs, pass and become a SEAL. You can't go from high school to Army bootcamp to Delta selection course to Delta. What they said about DEVGRU selection also having an element of "it's who you know" involved...that's not how it works in CAG.
You might become a seal but you aren't going to be a seal team 6 member for a while
Going to Delta is the same. They have a draft, and take individuals whom they want. Same as Dev.
When I was young talking to the Army recruiter since the Navy recruiter wasnt there, he said if you want to be a Seal after joining Delta, you could but Seals go to the Unit not the other way around.... I don't have a dog in the fight that's just what dude said, bearing in mind he wanted me to join the Army so who knows I guess lol....
Delta force is Air force though
@@ashleyjcraven7331Hahaha you're fucking kidding right?!?!
Who was the last guy you interviewed man he was the real deal💯
John McPhee
Thats a stupid question :)… better in what? Swimming? Knife fight? Better in using initiative? Hand to hand combat? This is mostly individual.
This last guy john shrek McPhee should have his own show there is something about this guy his eyes have stories people would find gut wrenching but fascinating
I think that’s the exact opposite of what these guys are going for lol
Kevin holland was out of the navy after being a DEV guy then wanted back in a tier 1 unit fast
He had to go back to a regular SEAL team and didn't want that, so he went to selection for Delta.
that's his history. We never heard the version of the military and his superiors.
In my humble opinion as an ex SF soldier with a very short career I think that Delta is the best. No competition. Although, like the one Delta guy said all the international SF soldiers are alike in that they train their asses off. Delta trains up all the services and no other unit invites all the services and that means the best of the best. And the second Delta man talked about building leaders. When I went through phase 1 at Camp Mackall we trained with Marine recon;jungle and desert and with French as well.
Delta-quiet professionals. SEALS-authors, actors, podcasters.
If it’s wet I’m going with the frogman, anything else I’ll take the Unit’ eclectic skills.
I knew an OG SEAL that went directly from BUDS to Nam. The OPS they had to run in Cambodia and Laos were insane. Totally insane. Nobody was better than those guys, period.
What are Unit guys like underwater?
Who has better financing? More connections and diversity of missions?
Like a great philosopher once said “you know how you identify a Delta operator and a Seals from a crowded room? Well the Delta you just can’t, but thankfully the Seals will make it easy on you since he will be trying to sell you his book.”
Would love to hear the last guys thoughts on SAS/SBS
Delta, because they were modeled off SAS 22, are very self-reliant, it is a priority. Since they come from (typically) rangers and SF groups, they teamwork part is a given and the "qualification" phases are testing individual, personal resilience in the face of total unknown variables. What you get out of it is an elite individual soldier that can handle anything thrown at him (mental fortitude) in solitude, that is an integral part of an elite team. With DevGru, the individual prowess is there, no question, but the emphasis on team mate. Not to say DevGru guys are not individual badasses, they are. The main difference seems to be the "qualification" and Training phase priorities.
I used to be friends with a guy who was a Marine and taught urban combat to other Marines. He said to me once (and you can decide for yourself if this is true) that the Delta guys are expected to be "robots who kill on the push of a button," whereas Marines are supposed to make decisions more like a human.
That's actually put perfectly tbh