Former British soldier here. I was watching the video, obviously hoping that our SF would be at the top but I definitely cant argue about the skill and likeability of the ‘strailians. My best mate was an Aussie commando and that man can brighten up the most dismal f*cking nasty, rainy cold shit day and turn it into a laugh. 🍻 Great vid. 🙂
As a Korean, very embarrassed that the Korean special forces were in a low rank, than completely convinced when I heard that the training was all a play lol I only served for a short period of time as a conscript, but the vertical culture of the Korean military, closed communication, training that had nothing to do with actual combat, inefficient customs, etc. were really annoying things during my service. I think the Korean military is particularly severe, although it may be a thing of every military. Many young officers try to solve this, but most of them leave the army before long. As the population decreases, the number of conscripts is also decreasing, and the application rate for officers and NCO is gradually decreasing, and the rate of early discharge is increasing. I'm really worried! Thanks for your video. Well observed.
Face culture is to blame. It causes so many problems that don't exist in the West. I lived and worked in Korea for 5 years and experienced it quite a bit. I'd recommend exchange programs so Korean and Japanese personnel can see a different culture where pointing out flaws and recommending fixes is normal.
The Filipino SF follow the famous Recondo School type of training, dating back to the Vietnam War. Back then, the graduation consisted in a week-long Recon Patrol behind Enemy Lines. You survive, you graduate. Crazy shit.
Didn’t the Philippine government recently offer the Moro to have a say in governance and they accept? So the live action recon wouldn’t happen now or is it still on like kong?
@@radaraacf It still happens. There are still belligerents like Abu Sayaf and Commie rebels. There are still Moro rebels who are not taking part of the peace deal
Never was special anything just a navy mechanic. Singapore was probably the worst group we ever had to work with . The French navy was always a pleasure to work with and they had beer on their boat. Only 1 a day but it was nice .
ROK Marine here. Spot on about the ROK side. We hate it too, it's so suffocating LOL. Just the entire culture in general is like that. The strict East Asian culture where discipline and power hierarchies are on steroids. It's a big reason why our SOF community and the military retention rate as a whole are dying. (I have heard about how the ROKA SWC is a bit over the top with appealing to their COC, compared to ROK NSW/ROKMC Force Recon and etc. It's even a known thing among the ROKs.) Yup, combat experience is rare. Most combat experience our guys have are border skirmishes, anti-piracy OPs, artillery exchanges/IDF, and mine incidents that happen occasionally. (We pale in comparison to the ROK 'Nam/DMZ era vets [when the DMZ was actually fucking active and crazy 50s-2010]😂) But hey, thankfully it's been getting better nowadays. LMFAO. Been enjoying your videos, keep up the good shit man.
I was US Army at the JSA on camp Bonifas in 2015. While I wasn't SF or working with SF, the JSA ROK infantry guys are supposed to be at least a little bit better than the rest, and I can say for them, they were pretty bad in terms of just complaining, tired, unmotivated... You nailed it with the hiarcy thing and I can attest to that as I've been back and forth to Korea for the last 8 years, because I have a Korean wife and three half Korean kids who go to Korean school. Military hiarcy mixed with Korean culture is a toxic combo for sure.. I don't even want my son's to go to the Korean army to maintain citizenship anymore, it's disgusting.
@@AlwaysFknSalty Makes sense. They were forced into it. That's a big reason why the people who do join the ROKMC do so. It's the only volunteer branch. Everyone's here because they want to be.
Happy to hear CSOR and CANSOF got ranked so high As pissed as I am about how the CAF is being manhandled, I hope that CANSOF will find ways to keep quality persons despite the cuts
The way CANSOF is set up, with guys being fed into it primarily from infantry units, we need to work as a country on making sure that that infantry to SF pipeline is strong.
Great to hear you have the Aussies up the top! I must also mention that our brother across the ditch, the New Zealand SAS are also up there with the best..
@LongShadong Haha when it comes to sports yeah we like to bash each other and talk shit but when it comes to war we will always have each others backs ANZAC
Back in 70/71 in Vietnam while doing recon in bush,could always know when a US marine unit was close,could smell the distinct camel/Winston cigarettes smell,was dead give away,some weed also,we never compromise our position just let ramble by,ex Aussie sas 68 to 76.
@@braveworld2707 VC also had a soft spot for Australians because we buried the dead enemy & marked the grave for the Red Cross to recover later. That was in line with Vietnamese Catholic culture.
As a former Cavalry Scout in the Australian Army Reserve, I had the distinct pleasure of working with the Australian Special Air Service Regiment as part of their training. They were incredibly humble, friendly and professional in equal measures. I’ve only ever heard people in the military say good things about our SOF boys and that gives me a sense of pride as an Aussie.
We had Aussies on exchange at our UK unit for a year! Beer monsters!! Shamed our whole regiment and most of the local civ pop in a steel working town 😂 that’s the convic moon shine upbringing 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😂
@@ValhallaVFT we had COs Pt organised for last day before summer leave. We had 3 Aussies still drinking beer at 7am whilst everyone was getting ready for parade 😂 then an 8mile Tab 🫣 they still managed it 👊🏻🇦🇺
I think you got on correct point. Real combat experience and Culture things. KR have typical vertical culture even in SF. Our last combat experience was Vietnam war. It was long time ago and after we got nothing on combat experience.
My family member is in the Aussie military, they work in a support role, nothing combat related. However, they told me drop out rate for just the regular infantry is pretty high. It's one of the most coveted roles in the Army but lots of people get injured, are not conditioned enough and so on and they need to transfer to other roles. This is just their anecdotal experience from talking to other service members who gave it a shot. I always though it wouldn't be 'that hard', in the sense that an average fit person could keep up but apprently that's not the case. As a non military person, hearing that put things into perspective for me, more than any documentary or whatever, how tough the SF standards must be to meet.
I'm aiming for the RAR and then eventually SF but, shit the infantry is tough enough in Australia hey.. I'm 15 but have plenty of time to prep thankfully
@@vinceversinceAU Good on ya mate, I was like that when I was 15 too. I joined when I 18 and was in 2RAR. I went all around the world on deployments. It's the best job in the world, probably even better than you imagine it to be.
Only 1st special regiment and grom (hr oriented) were involved in combat. Maybe their Formoza (seal equivalent) was also but little. Grom and psk/jwk was working with green berets. And some stories I’ve heard there was an American operator that during exercise with polish sof accidentally shot a „hostage” target and got immediately discharged by his sergeant major but I don’t know the full story
Nice, a little surprised that you haven't encountered the NZSAS or the SBS given the range of SOF teams you've covered ... nice to have a straight narrative without all the BS photos and other visual props 🙏
Thank you for sharing your thought. For Canadian 🇨🇦 SF, I am assuming you mean CSOR (Tier 2) and not JTF2 (Tier 1)? Because your list had a mixture of the two tiers.
Hey man, this was awesome. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I know it's a long shot due to the controversial aspect, but you should do one where you share your opinion on all of the American SOF units you worked with.
Its great to see you talking about skill and also Morale (enjoyability and operational flexibility) as both work hand in hand which the aussies do, my daugher is in the reserves and I just see how good the morale is in all the units, they get to do cool stuff which is Skill training essentially and the aussies do have a very postive nature even at the worst of times that rubs off on others well which is only a good thing.. We also have a high training level to start with and since WW1 times most were volunteers and the men mostly were fit and already knew how to shoot and it actaully not easy to join the millitary now you do have to pass a reasonably amount of tests just to be a inf soldier Non special forces.
Pretty cool and eye opening. My family is from the Philippines so I’ve always wondered how good their units along with other East Asian ones were. I’m not that surprised hearing this.
Also how well equipped were the Mongolians? Were they just really good from a mountaineering/ physical standpoint but underfunded? Were they better than you guys at Mountain ops? I imagine they had horses ha
They were definitely better than us at rock climbing, not necessarily operations. And they had actually just stood the unit up recently so not that high level of equipment at that time.
Only caveat I would add mate is that there are pretty high level legislative authorisations around 2 Cdo Regt doing domestic ops. It basically has to be a pretty fucked situation for the boys to be recalled to assist.
Was coming in to say the same thing... there are a LOT of legislative hoops that need to be checked off before anything close to resembling that kind of action would come into effect. Police Special Operations (with whatever cool acronym and patch they've come up with now) jealously guard that kind of work, even when they botch it spectacularly, like the Lindt Cafe.
It is to stop would-be Hitlers calling the Army to put down opposition. The Army's job is to hold off the enemy, not the citizenry. Dutton and co, take note. @@OldFellaDave
If you have the time and willingness, I would like to suggest a future video. In which you discuss more in depth about the issues you had with some units. For example, Japan, Korea or any others. I understand you mentioned "optics". Meaning, of course, the "theatrics" regarding how a said unit performs in front of the chain of command. Again, "the culture" being a significant reason behind such mentalities. Naturally, a unit doesn't improve when they don't learn to adapt in such a potentially high-risk situation. From what you mentioned, it seems like they wanted to practice a specific situation in a well-rehearsed-controlled environment and with a predictable outcome. So, as to appear to operate as what is expected of a top Tier 1 unit to the chain of command. Which is not necessarily reflective of what they may or may not be capable of realistically? Because such situations are anything but predictable. The idea of such training, I imagine, is to find weaknesses and hone and develop skills that allow operatives/teams to adapt to high risk situations and complete the task/mission to the very best they can ideally achieve.
Which Canadian units are you ranking? There are different SOF units in Canada as well, JTF2 is the tier 1 which has worked with Delta, DEVGRU and SAS a lot then there is CSOR which is closer to the US special forces in what their role is (not primarily counter terrorism but more expanded)
Russian SF were half decimated at the beginning of the war as they were used as basic infantry and got whacked in conventional exchanges. Very doubtful they’ll back to any reasonable levels for a decade if that.
@@neillgowans4350 Western media claimed at the time that 90% of the Russian Spetznatz and Airborne were KIA. It turned out that less than 10% were actually deployed to action and that it was a very limited operation (180.000 soldiers), nowhere near a "full-blown invasion" as the western media called it until not long ago.
@@neillgowans4350 That’s the biggest load of horse crap I’ve ever heard lol. Pure propaganda. Russian SF is arguably the most combat experienced/effective in the world at the moment.
Aussie selections... 3 weeks, then if you pass, if selected, thats if you fit the mold....you can finish and not be selected, then a 12-15month of sf training even before stepping a foot as the new guy...this is the basics before doing other crazy things. No one speaks about them being no.1, but they should.
military comps are not a waste of time but theyre really the about the best trainers not the best fighters. Has Columbia been in many wars lately? Serious question, combat experience counts.
Not nearly as much experience, working with far fewer units. But I agree. ANA Commandos were scary and dangerous to work with. I worked with an Afghan SF medic and didn't realize he wasn't one of our guys at first. He was awesome to work with. I didn't work closely with the Brits, but we never had to worry about them and their AO. I also had the chance to work with UAE guys, and we enjoyed working with them. There are a lot of great Special Operations units from all over the world, and it was a privilege to work with a couple of them (not the Commandos).
Brits hella angry in the comments but the man is speaking from his experience. I'll take his opinion over some random, drunk, Chelsea soccer hooligan any day lol
Got a query for ya, you spent time in Aussie land in Talisman Sabre, how do you rank the American G.I against the Aussie Rifleman. Taking SF out of the equation here.
In conventional roles it’s very similar. Marines are stationed in Australia so the interoperability is there. Marines and Aus Army have very high esprit de corps and will operate in any environment or shitty situation.
Allow an old guy to tell a Canada/USA story. I was privileged to take part in training in British Columbia in the 1970s. There were Airborne Regiment, RCR, Van Doos and some others (that included me) involved. One weekend, a few of us hitched a ride to Vancouver. I ended up bar hopping with a couple of Airborne types. We were in a bar. A lot of stories start that way. It had been a long week of hard training, and we were relaxing with our first drinks. A small group of really big guys enter the bar. They assess us as we do the same. One heads our way. He's big and black as he looms over us. "Noticed your white walls", he says. Training haircuts declared what we were. Then he announced, "We're United States Rangers, come north of the border to check out the place. What unit are you with?" The short Airborne type (he was so short I wondered how he got into the Army, let alone the Airborne) responsed. "Airborne..., sucker." I'm in the middle, thinking so I die in a bar fight. The Ranger straightens up, nods twice. "Cool," he says and returns to his buddies. We all purposely ignore the other group, and the evening passed quietly. Airborne may have been short in stature, but he had an eight foot attitude.
I've seen a few clips of joint exercises between green berets and indian para sf. Whats your opinion on them or know any colleagues who have worked with them?
SF Interoperability between Nations is incredibly important, now more than ever with the increased threat of symmetrical warfare from a rising china and belligerent Russia abreast of the continuance of asymmetrical within the Middle East. So rating how well US SF works with partner forces is actually a valid stat, as the ability to operate effectively in unison will be a force multiplier in large scale operations. Very happy to hear 2CDO and SAS rate highly being an Aussie Vet, but that’s in our nature I think, we love a good scrap (fight) and the ‘work hard - play harder’ ethos is engrained in our military culture, or at least I hope it still is. Great vid, cheers 🍻
I had the good fortune of knowing several ex-SASR (Aussie) from different regiments. They did rate the British special forces highly, and did do regular cross pollination with them and the US special forces (sorry for not remembering all the correct military names). I didn’t hear anything in this video that sounded out of place relative to what these fellas had said, and they’d seen mucho heavy combat…way more than ordinary civilians are aware of. Actually, apparently they’re not supposed to talk about their missions, but they were retired and it seemed to help. I suspect the US forces just gel better with the Aussies, and ironically, the Brits probably gel better with the Aussies too. Canadians…well they always seem to gel with the Aussies. 😂
could you tells us about indian sof units cause honestly most of the indian sof units have constantly been battle tested since 65 - current but we dont know much about them and indian sources tend to hype their millitary's capability so honestly im not sure of what to make of them
Tysvm on ur service in the USA military. I’m from Canada and retired from the Canadian CF Myself. God bless u and ur family and the other NATO members that’s still serving.
I read a book about a seal unit working with Turkish SOF and he said they are very professional and very happy to work with the yanks. Also they are good hosts and good drinkers.
Was solidly hoping to see if you trained with the Indian Para SF, not many stories about Indo-US sf training out there. Would love to hear an outside perspective
A large part of that reason is that India does tend to hang out under the Moscow umbrella of influence, more than most. India is actually in multiple joint research projects with Russia. Also have some mutual defense agreements. So of course the U.S. will not be interacting militarily with Indian military all that often. But hey, you get Russian military tech on the cheap. LOL
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Goes to show how little you know mate. Para SF is literally the most capable high altitude force in the world. The US and Brit SF are in joint training programs with the Para SF. The more you know
@@PaperbackDreamsMusic yeah they’re so good that on a 30 man training jump all 30 soldiers were seriously injured plus 1 bystander. Being tolerated by the top dogs doesn’t make you a top dog.
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Source: Trust me bro. Dude, neither the Indian government nor its army or its special forces require tolerance from the 'top dogs'. India has maintained and strengthened her geopolitical stance and is considered to be an important player and diplomatic ally by all the blocks. It is because of the army and its special forces that India has maintained its growth trajectory and sovereignty all the while being surrounded by ill-intentioned nations. And to answer your extremely contrived western basement dwelling narrative, the western regiments don't train with the MARCOS commandos, Rashtriya Rifles, CIF, and Para SF for nothing. There is a lot to be learned and taught.
P.S. 2 Comando and other Australian military forces do NOT have the power to randomly go out and arrest civilians, they CAN depending on the premises, i.e. defence force premises, but just to wander out and arrest people..NO! I find it hard to give credibitilty now this guy has said that..maybe he just didn't understand?
He’s probably talking about the TAG east/ TAG west rotation which is domestic terror/hostage response. Meaning they can definitely be deployed and under the circumstances make lawful arrests. However they don’t just walk the streets arresting people like Police haha
Every ANA guy said he was "commando special force". I was embedded with those fucks for 2 deployments. 4 Canadians in a strong point with an ANA rifle coy made for interesting situations.
Actually SAF unit in the Philippines have more combat experience than any other SOF unit in the Philippines. They take down and hunt high value targets in Mindanao that was actually insane. They work together with Light Reaction Regiment from AFP.. Actually SAF and LRR is the best unit in the Philippines especially the Marawi Siege they are tandem.
I had a business and we used to look after Japanese jornalists in AUstralia, we also had to clean their places when they left and I had this Japanese guy show me through and explain a few things to me, that was Hori. He said :" the kitchen is dirty if Japanese man live here by himself tu he will tell you it is clean, because it is woan's work and he wont recognise it is dirty" just an interesting insight. Also Hori was born in the US but ran their company in Australia, he drove an Ausralian Ford, he said to me one day, "I go home as soon as they tell me," I said.."so you will go back to America just like that?" he said "No,.,,Japan is my home" He had never been there in his live..one thing he did say that amused me more was that when he did " I will take my Australian Ford with me."
I defy any unit on your top ten list or those with special mention to stand in the doorway to the old girls arriving for their bingo game, right now I got $100 that says, seals, commando and SASR all get their arses handed to them.
I know SASR sometimes train with The Kopassus, however the general consensus from ADF members is neutral, meaning I've never heard our guys talking bad about them.
@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm in an airplane ? or train ? or boat ? plus revolver never fails, first shot first kill. so the tools chosen depends on critirea.
I knew an Irish who at the time was working for Mechen, a South African demining company in Mozambique. His name was Paddy. He had been British SAS, Rhodesian SAS, and SA Recce. He participated with Renamo guerrillas in the destruction of Beira oil deposits around 1978. He spoke highly of the Portuguese paras and strangely he despised the Israeli special forces. He said they were mere propaganda.
well most brits know our history ,,we dont need bullshite social media gobshites saying there sf are better when they cannot back it up like us brits,,,, our warriors did more in ww2 than the rest of the world has done in a lifetime ,, butthurt? yes its about our evolution and no country on this planet comes close ,
What about the Dutch? We have the KCT (equivalent to green berets) and Marsof (equivalent to Marsoc/seals) and they are pretty capable from what I hear.
@@georgeedmond3401 yeah I know wiseacre, the question was mostly directed to the comment section. Also he could’ve heard something from the other group that works in Europe mostly.
Before 2cdo was 4RAR based at Holsworthy in NSW Australia ,which wiped Indonesian special forces search party dressed as civilians in East Timor which was tracking 4RAR soldiers in the jungle but got chopped by heavy machine gun fire and one got head blown apart by a grenade launcher fired into vacant build which they tried to hide after brief skirmish in jungle but it's been said TAG West is the best unit tactically for any type international incident basically best of all spec ops soliders selected to be in tag west which also counter terrorism unit does west coast of Australia for terrorism an TAG East is similar but on eastern coast which is also based in Holsworthy barracks
Where are you getting the info about the Indonesian SF? The action you refer to were pro Indonesian Militia. Kopassus were believed to of helped coordinate the Militia but were not believed to have been involved in the action. Also, it was a SAS patrol and not a 4 RAR (CDO) patrol that was involved.
Just wondering how you can rate the Israeli special forces if you haven't worked with them? A tier 1 unit like the british SBS/SAS would unlikely be paired up with a tier 2 unit like the Green Berets for high level jobs. You mention a freefall operation with the SAS, no british SF units dropped into Iraq or Afghanistan in this recent war. Tier 1& 2 are vastly different mission objectives. It's not a dig at your list, however it is a mirror of the tasks and missions ( that you know doubt smashed ) your untit was assigned. the Green Berets are wizards man but the the objectives for Tier 1 and 2 are incomparable.
Cheers, did you manage to work with the romanian SOF? I heard they operated with the american SOF community but i have never heard any feedback besides the diplomatic stuff .. Thank you!
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I suppose you know this already but to for anyone else, pnpsaf is a police unit. Closest equivalent would probably FBI HRT but not super specialized. Theyre military trained police. I would love for you to do one about PH rangers and SF. And LRR which is our delta, trained by the US. Takes recruits from SF and Rangers. Im sure some US SF wpuld have stories
@@ValhallaVFT either one but mainly us like 82nd or 101st, wanting to go sof but my running is no where near where it needs to be and am looking for a stepping stone
1st ID deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 to integrate with ODAs and MARSOC and help with VSO. We were relieved by 82nd. I'm not aware of any other conventional units that worked SOF missions.
I worked with norwegian special forces. MJK and FSK. They talked alot of shit about american SEALS. That they were full of steroids, not able to ruck and did not handle the cold. They even aborted a diving excersise because of high waves. What is your empression of the norwegians?
Retired 18Z here, 5th & 10th Gp. I worked with the Commandos years ago, after the train hijacking. They were really nice guys, and of course, like most Dutch, spoke excellent English. This was years before 9/11. My recollections are hazy, but I remember them putting us through CQB, and they had some great tactics. Sorry, I can't remember more. By the way before SF, when I was a paratrooper with the 509th Abn out of Vicenza, Italy, I did the Nijmegen marches 3 times. We did 1 25miler in 5hrs 11mins. Love the Dutch people!
@@danstoye3902 I salute you my Italian brother. Thanks for sharing this information with me. I've been in the army for a year now as a CBRN operator but hadn't got the chance to talk with a commando yet since I rarely see them. Definitely planning on partaking in the Nijmegen marches next year tho
did you ever work with Pakistani SF they must have experience fighting the pakistani taliban too i guess ,also how are the indian para sf guys they also have been fighting insurgencies in india both there armies are amongst the best in the world with nuclear arsenals i bet there special forces would be pretty amazing too
I'm sorry to say but Saf is the best unit in the Philippines in terms of actual combat operations in mindanao..they hunt and kill HVT's all around mindanao
The PNP SAF you mentioned was police unit. You should have worked with the AFP units like the Light Reaction Regiment, NAVSOG, Scout Ranger and the SF those were really on par with western special units, highly skilled and experienced in a subpar equipment.
overproud afp check 🤣 tingin mo dyan hindi nakipag trained sa ibang unit ng AFP ? USSF green beret yan engot 🤣 tuturuan mo pa yung instructor 🤣 nanunuod ka na nga hindi mo pa naintindihan sinasabi 🤣 pilit mo pa yung SR na mga hilaw 🤣
@@scaucymancannotdiebaby7034 kawawa ka naman 🤣 haha alam na alam ng USSF kung sino mga hilaw at walan pinag aralan na mga highschool na uhaw sa atensyon at papuri 🤣 mga mabababang uri hahahaha
CANSOF JTF2 (tier 1 unit, It is notable that JTF2 remains the only foreign (from the American point of view) special operation unit to be conducted into American JSOC Tier 1 ranking (Along with Delta and Seal Team 6). CSOR (tier 2, which is probably the one he is referencing, since green beret is a tier 2 unit) Correct me if I am wrong sir.
Former British soldier here. I was watching the video, obviously hoping that our SF would be at the top but I definitely cant argue about the skill and likeability of the ‘strailians. My best mate was an Aussie commando and that man can brighten up the most dismal f*cking nasty, rainy cold shit day and turn it into a laugh. 🍻
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As a Korean, very embarrassed that the Korean special forces were in a low rank,
than completely convinced when I heard that the training was all a play lol
I only served for a short period of time as a conscript, but the vertical culture of the Korean military, closed communication, training that had nothing to do with actual combat, inefficient customs, etc. were really annoying things during my service.
I think the Korean military is particularly severe, although it may be a thing of every military.
Many young officers try to solve this, but most of them leave the army before long.
As the population decreases, the number of conscripts is also decreasing, and the application rate for officers and NCO is gradually decreasing, and the rate of early discharge is increasing.
I'm really worried!
Thanks for your video. Well observed.
I would’ve expected the Koreans to be higher. Japanese SF I could’ve guessed
@@mattwarner5742 Absolutely agree
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Face culture is to blame. It causes so many problems that don't exist in the West. I lived and worked in Korea for 5 years and experienced it quite a bit. I'd recommend exchange programs so Korean and Japanese personnel can see a different culture where pointing out flaws and recommending fixes is normal.
The Filipino SF follow the famous Recondo School type of training, dating back to the Vietnam War. Back then, the graduation consisted in a week-long Recon Patrol behind Enemy Lines. You survive, you graduate. Crazy shit.
I’ve heard about that. Pretty wild stuff.
Didn’t the Philippine government recently offer the Moro to have a say in governance and they accept? So the live action recon wouldn’t happen now or is it still on like kong?
Was thinking the exact same thing based on all of the Vietnam era LRRP/LRP books that I've read.
@@radaraacf yea but alot of dissidents rebels didnt like that and split off, now you got folks like ISIS and other armed groups roaming around.
@@radaraacf It still happens. There are still belligerents like Abu Sayaf and Commie rebels. There are still Moro rebels who are not taking part of the peace deal
Never was special anything just a navy mechanic. Singapore was probably the worst group we ever had to work with . The French navy was always a pleasure to work with and they had beer on their boat. Only 1 a day but it was nice .
Ah man, sorry to hear that you had a bad time working with my country's navy... I'm curious to know the reason why though!
@@llyh8023 probably just ran into a bad unit. Every military has them. I've heard nothing but good things about Singapore, personally!
The Navy needs mechanics - thank you for your service. :)
"What, you said only 1 a day? 1 six pack is "1" a day!"
Singapore has good Army/Air Force Aviation to pick up the slack, so that’s a plus.
ROK Marine here.
Spot on about the ROK side.
We hate it too, it's so suffocating LOL. Just the entire culture in general is like that. The strict East Asian culture where discipline and power hierarchies are on steroids. It's a big reason why our SOF community and the military retention rate as a whole are dying.
(I have heard about how the ROKA SWC is a bit over the top with appealing to their COC, compared to ROK NSW/ROKMC Force Recon and etc. It's even a known thing among the ROKs.)
Yup, combat experience is rare.
Most combat experience our guys have are border skirmishes, anti-piracy OPs, artillery exchanges/IDF, and mine incidents that happen occasionally.
(We pale in comparison to the ROK 'Nam/DMZ era vets [when the DMZ was actually fucking active and crazy 50s-2010]😂)
But hey, thankfully it's been getting better nowadays. LMFAO.
Been enjoying your videos, keep up the good shit man.
Cool to hear perspective from your side, I’d imagine it would be frustrating to deal with.
I was US Army at the JSA on camp Bonifas in 2015. While I wasn't SF or working with SF, the JSA ROK infantry guys are supposed to be at least a little bit better than the rest, and I can say for them, they were pretty bad in terms of just complaining, tired, unmotivated...
You nailed it with the hiarcy thing and I can attest to that as I've been back and forth to Korea for the last 8 years, because I have a Korean wife and three half Korean kids who go to Korean school. Military hiarcy mixed with Korean culture is a toxic combo for sure.. I don't even want my son's to go to the Korean army to maintain citizenship anymore, it's disgusting.
@@AlwaysFknSalty Makes sense. They were forced into it.
That's a big reason why the people who do join the ROKMC do so. It's the only volunteer branch. Everyone's here because they want to be.
@@meanjune Ah so ROK Marines are volunteer. Interesting. Is the budget any better there?
@@AlwaysFknSalty Nope, same as the US. We're dept. of the Navy. We're the most broke. Hand me downs.
Happy to hear CSOR and CANSOF got ranked so high
As pissed as I am about how the CAF is being manhandled, I hope that CANSOF will find ways to keep quality persons despite the cuts
Same shit happening int the US, both countries need a leadership change direly.
The solution is clear, the minister of defense needs to act ASAP
The way CANSOF is set up, with guys being fed into it primarily from infantry units, we need to work as a country on making sure that that infantry to SF pipeline is strong.
Worked with some jtf guys in Afghan....you'd not have picked them as tier 1 or even military 😂😂😂
Great to hear you have the Aussies up the top! I must also mention that our brother across the ditch, the New Zealand SAS are also up there with the best..
They got a health boost to the top from also being the most fun dudes I worked with by a large margin.
What a Ozzie saying something good about the kiwis
@LongShadong Haha when it comes to sports yeah we like to bash each other and talk shit but when it comes to war we will always have each others backs ANZAC
@@LongShadong You cant spell anzac without New Zealand.
@@dreday77764 nothing better than a bit of banter
Back in 70/71 in Vietnam while doing recon in bush,could always know when a US marine unit was close,could smell the distinct camel/Winston cigarettes smell,was dead give away,some weed also,we never compromise our position just let ramble by,ex Aussie sas 68 to 76.
My dad was a green beret same time period. He’s told me that exact same thing.
@@ValhallaVFTthe green beret were way in front of grunts, they probably keep there distance same as we did.
Victor Charles avoided areas the Oz SASR worked in even with that nice big bonus on the SASR heads.
Phantom of the Jungle! Much respect mate. It's amazing how far the smell of cigarette smoke travels in the gungle.
@@braveworld2707 VC also had a soft spot for Australians because we buried the dead enemy & marked the grave for the Red Cross to recover later. That was in line with Vietnamese Catholic culture.
Brother thank you for sharing your experience. And thank you for serving our country.
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@@ValhallaVFTso u worked with jtf2 before?
As a former Cavalry Scout in the Australian Army Reserve, I had the distinct pleasure of working with the Australian Special Air Service Regiment as part of their training. They were incredibly humble, friendly and professional in equal measures. I’ve only ever heard people in the military say good things about our SOF boys and that gives me a sense of pride as an Aussie.
We had Aussies on exchange at our UK unit for a year! Beer monsters!! Shamed our whole regiment and most of the local civ pop in a steel working town 😂 that’s the convic moon shine upbringing 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😂
Those dudes are out of fucking control, the most fun to work with by far.
@@ValhallaVFT we had COs Pt organised for last day before summer leave. We had 3 Aussies still drinking beer at 7am whilst everyone was getting ready for parade 😂 then an 8mile Tab 🫣 they still managed it 👊🏻🇦🇺
Walter who was that then? Beer monsters? No Brit would call an Aussie a Beer monster. So who you with?
A Brit calling an Aussie a beer monster ?? Hahaha behave yaself
@@SuperOwls1867 yerp it’s true
Drinking is frowned upon now in UK armed forces. Unless your in the red arrows
I think you got on correct point. Real combat experience and Culture things. KR have typical vertical culture even in SF. Our last combat experience was Vietnam war. It was long time ago and after we got nothing on combat experience.
My family member is in the Aussie military, they work in a support role, nothing combat related. However, they told me drop out rate for just the regular infantry is pretty high. It's one of the most coveted roles in the Army but lots of people get injured, are not conditioned enough and so on and they need to transfer to other roles. This is just their anecdotal experience from talking to other service members who gave it a shot. I always though it wouldn't be 'that hard', in the sense that an average fit person could keep up but apprently that's not the case. As a non military person, hearing that put things into perspective for me, more than any documentary or whatever, how tough the SF standards must be to meet.
I'm aiming for the RAR and then eventually SF but, shit the infantry is tough enough in Australia hey.. I'm 15 but have plenty of time to prep thankfully
@@vinceversinceAU Good on ya mate, I was like that when I was 15 too. I joined when I 18 and was in 2RAR. I went all around the world on deployments. It's the best job in the world, probably even better than you imagine it to be.
Great point, I've been of the school of thinking that the average quality matter more than the elite quality.
@@adamroper1197 second to no bastard!
There is a doco on the SASR entrance exam and its harder the even the commandos training
You forgot to mention how much the Aussie soldiers drink. I am retired and in my sixties, my wife still complains about it!
Partying with the Aussies is part of what they got rated so high brother.
Which Polish SF did you work with? They have 5 or 6 groups within their SF. I think GROM is supposed to be their most elite.
Only 1st special regiment and grom (hr oriented) were involved in combat. Maybe their Formoza (seal equivalent) was also but little. Grom and psk/jwk was working with green berets. And some stories I’ve heard there was an American operator that during exercise with polish sof accidentally shot a „hostage” target and got immediately discharged by his sergeant major but I don’t know the full story
GROM or Kommandosow probably
He does not know because he is a yankee-doodle wannabe SF-soldier.
Nice, a little surprised that you haven't encountered the NZSAS or the SBS given the range of SOF teams you've covered ... nice to have a straight narrative without all the BS photos and other visual props 🙏
Highly possible NZSAS & AusSAS are seen as the same thing, through American eyes.
Most people don’t know nz even exists to be fair
@@JohnBaptist-v7y true dat, maybe not a bad thing either!
@@loufrost824 definitely not. They know who they work with.
@@Kernatex I was referring to the common Yank, not a Teir 1 guy who has a reason to know these guys.
In Asia it’s all about “face”. How things appear are more important than how they function.
Thank you for sharing your thought.
For Canadian 🇨🇦 SF, I am assuming you mean CSOR (Tier 2) and not JTF2 (Tier 1)? Because your list had a mixture of the two tiers.
Hey man, this was awesome. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I know it's a long shot due to the controversial aspect, but you should do one where you share your opinion on all of the American SOF units you worked with.
Its great to see you talking about skill and also Morale (enjoyability and operational flexibility) as both work hand in hand which the aussies do, my daugher is in the reserves and I just see how good the morale is in all the units, they get to do cool stuff which is Skill training essentially and the aussies do have a very postive nature even at the worst of times that rubs off on others well which is only a good thing.. We also have a high training level to start with and since WW1 times most were volunteers and the men mostly were fit and already knew how to shoot and it actaully not easy to join the millitary now you do have to pass a reasonably amount of tests just to be a inf soldier Non special forces.
What are your views, at least reputation wise, of adversarial special forces units?
Good video mate and nice to hear you hold British SAS in high regard
Old school Special forces man! How do I know? Filing cabinet in factory khaki behind him.
Always enjoy these!
Pretty cool and eye opening. My family is from the Philippines so I’ve always wondered how good their units along with other East Asian ones were. I’m not that surprised hearing this.
Also how well equipped were the Mongolians? Were they just really good from a mountaineering/ physical standpoint but underfunded? Were they better than you guys at Mountain ops? I imagine they had horses ha
They were definitely better than us at rock climbing, not necessarily operations. And they had actually just stood the unit up recently so not that high level of equipment at that time.
Love the channel.
Thanks 🙏
Only caveat I would add mate is that there are pretty high level legislative authorisations around 2 Cdo Regt doing domestic ops. It basically has to be a pretty fucked situation for the boys to be recalled to assist.
Was coming in to say the same thing... there are a LOT of legislative hoops that need to be checked off before anything close to resembling that kind of action would come into effect. Police Special Operations (with whatever cool acronym and patch they've come up with now) jealously guard that kind of work, even when they botch it spectacularly, like the Lindt Cafe.
TAG East lads
It is to stop would-be Hitlers calling the Army to put down opposition. The Army's job is to hold off the enemy, not the citizenry.
Dutton and co, take note.
@@OldFellaDave
If you have the time and willingness, I would like to suggest a future video. In which you discuss more in depth about the issues you had with some units. For example, Japan, Korea or any others.
I understand you mentioned "optics". Meaning, of course, the "theatrics" regarding how a said unit performs in front of the chain of command.
Again, "the culture" being a significant reason behind such mentalities. Naturally, a unit doesn't improve when they don't learn to adapt in such a potentially high-risk situation.
From what you mentioned, it seems like they wanted to practice a specific situation in a well-rehearsed-controlled environment and with a predictable outcome. So, as to appear to operate as what is expected of a top Tier 1 unit to the chain of command. Which is not necessarily reflective of what they may or may not be capable of realistically? Because such situations are anything but predictable.
The idea of such training, I imagine, is to find weaknesses and hone and develop skills that allow operatives/teams to adapt to high risk situations and complete the task/mission to the very best they can ideally achieve.
Which Canadian units are you ranking? There are different SOF units in Canada as well, JTF2 is the tier 1 which has worked with Delta, DEVGRU and SAS a lot then there is CSOR which is closer to the US special forces in what their role is (not primarily counter terrorism but more expanded)
When i served in the army i worked with the Afghan national army ANA and they were horrible i always worried about them shooting me
Imagine how good Ukrainian and Russian special forces are now with shit ton of experiences in modern high intensity conflict
Russian SF were half decimated at the beginning of the war as they were used as basic infantry and got whacked in conventional exchanges. Very doubtful they’ll back to any reasonable levels for a decade if that.
@@neillgowans4350
Western media claimed at the time that 90% of the Russian Spetznatz and Airborne were KIA. It turned out that less than 10% were actually deployed to action and that it was a very limited operation (180.000 soldiers), nowhere near a "full-blown invasion" as the western media called it until not long ago.
@@neillgowans4350 That’s the biggest load of horse crap I’ve ever heard lol. Pure propaganda. Russian SF is arguably the most combat experienced/effective in the world at the moment.
@@neillgowans4350negative. They never lost that many. You can find countless videos of them conducting ops rn
@@neillgowans4350 lol, keep dreaming
Even the Australian regular Army units are trained to a level that would be considered special forces in other military’s!
Aussie selections... 3 weeks, then if you pass, if selected, thats if you fit the mold....you can finish and not be selected, then a 12-15month of sf training even before stepping a foot as the new guy...this is the basics before doing other crazy things.
No one speaks about them being no.1, but they should.
What about colombian sf? I heard they often win the sof „championship” exercises but haven’t heard about their combat exploits
military comps are not a waste of time but theyre really the about the best trainers not the best fighters. Has Columbia been in many wars lately? Serious question, combat experience counts.
championship ,,ffs beer drinking i hope
@@loufrost824 drug wars are ultravoilent too
@@loufrost824 war with farc maybe?
Not nearly as much experience, working with far fewer units. But I agree. ANA Commandos were scary and dangerous to work with. I worked with an Afghan SF medic and didn't realize he wasn't one of our guys at first. He was awesome to work with. I didn't work closely with the Brits, but we never had to worry about them and their AO. I also had the chance to work with UAE guys, and we enjoyed working with them. There are a lot of great Special Operations units from all over the world, and it was a privilege to work with a couple of them (not the Commandos).
Brits hella angry in the comments but the man is speaking from his experience. I'll take his opinion over some random, drunk, Chelsea soccer hooligan any day lol
Got a query for ya, you spent time in Aussie land in Talisman Sabre, how do you rank the American G.I against the Aussie Rifleman. Taking SF out of the equation here.
good question. Hope he sees this eventually.
Worked with the US marines and they were very good and basically the same as the australian soldier
In conventional roles it’s very similar. Marines are stationed in Australia so the interoperability is there. Marines and Aus Army have very high esprit de corps and will operate in any environment or shitty situation.
Allow an old guy to tell a Canada/USA story. I was privileged to take part in training in British Columbia in the 1970s. There were Airborne Regiment, RCR, Van Doos and some others (that included me) involved. One weekend, a few of us hitched a ride to Vancouver. I ended up bar hopping with a couple of Airborne types. We were in a bar. A lot of stories start that way. It had been a long week of hard training, and we were relaxing with our first drinks. A small group of really big guys enter the bar. They assess us as we do the same. One heads our way. He's big and black as he looms over us. "Noticed your white walls", he says. Training haircuts declared what we were. Then he announced, "We're United States Rangers, come north of the border to check out the place. What unit are you with?"
The short Airborne type (he was so short I wondered how he got into the Army, let alone the Airborne) responsed. "Airborne..., sucker."
I'm in the middle, thinking so I die in a bar fight. The Ranger straightens up, nods twice. "Cool," he says and returns to his buddies. We all purposely ignore the other group, and the evening passed quietly. Airborne may have been short in stature, but he had an eight foot attitude.
Awesome nate❤
I've seen a few clips of joint exercises between green berets and indian para sf. Whats your opinion on them or know any colleagues who have worked with them?
Last time i heard about indian para sf they are struggling to deal with so calked terrorists in indian kashmir…they suck just like indian air crash
Nice vid man. keep it up.
Love your content
Thank you! 😀 Interesting.
SF Interoperability between Nations is incredibly important, now more than ever with the increased threat of symmetrical warfare from a rising china and belligerent Russia abreast of the continuance of asymmetrical within the Middle East. So rating how well US SF works with partner forces is actually a valid stat, as the ability to operate effectively in unison will be a force multiplier in large scale operations. Very happy to hear 2CDO and SAS rate highly being an Aussie Vet, but that’s in our nature I think, we love a good scrap (fight) and the ‘work hard - play harder’ ethos is engrained in our military culture, or at least I hope it still is.
Great vid, cheers 🍻
I remember reading the Amazing SAS by Ian McPhedran, and his accounts would confirm everything you've said.
I had the good fortune of knowing several ex-SASR (Aussie) from different regiments. They did rate the British special forces highly, and did do regular cross pollination with them and the US special forces (sorry for not remembering all the correct military names).
I didn’t hear anything in this video that sounded out of place relative to what these fellas had said, and they’d seen mucho heavy combat…way more than ordinary civilians are aware of. Actually, apparently they’re not supposed to talk about their missions, but they were retired and it seemed to help. I suspect the US forces just gel better with the Aussies, and ironically, the Brits probably gel better with the Aussies too. Canadians…well they always seem to gel with the Aussies. 😂
could you tells us about indian sof units cause honestly most of the indian sof units have constantly been battle tested since 65 - current but we dont know much about them and indian sources tend to hype their millitary's capability so honestly im not sure of what to make of them
Never worked with any so I don’t have any real information to give, sorry.
you can surely trust Indian sf units. They are the best in mountain warfare specially.
I have heard perhaps unfounded accusations that most indian special forces are only a little bit better than the "elite" American National Guard.
Tysvm on ur service in the USA military. I’m from Canada and retired from the Canadian CF Myself. God bless u and ur family and the other NATO members that’s still serving.
Have you ever worked with the Turkish SOF? If so what's your opinion on them?
Wasn’t in 5th group so I didn’t work with any Middle East units outside of Afghanistan/Iraq.
@@ValhallaVFT thanks
Apparently they are a "delight" to work with!
I read a book about a seal unit working with Turkish SOF and he said they are very professional and very happy to work with the yanks. Also they are good hosts and good drinkers.
@@Dave-r4u😅
Was solidly hoping to see if you trained with the Indian Para SF, not many stories about Indo-US sf training out there. Would love to hear an outside perspective
A large part of that reason is that India does tend to hang out under the Moscow umbrella of influence, more than most.
India is actually in multiple joint research projects with Russia. Also have some mutual defense agreements.
So of course the U.S. will not be interacting militarily with Indian military all that often. But hey, you get Russian military tech on the cheap. LOL
No question about it India would be at the bottom of the list lol
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Goes to show how little you know mate. Para SF is literally the most capable high altitude force in the world. The US and Brit SF are in joint training programs with the Para SF. The more you know
@@PaperbackDreamsMusic yeah they’re so good that on a 30 man training jump all 30 soldiers were seriously injured plus 1 bystander. Being tolerated by the top dogs doesn’t make you a top dog.
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Source: Trust me bro.
Dude, neither the Indian government nor its army or its special forces require tolerance from the 'top dogs'. India has maintained and strengthened her geopolitical stance and is considered to be an important player and diplomatic ally by all the blocks. It is because of the army and its special forces that India has maintained its growth trajectory and sovereignty all the while being surrounded by ill-intentioned nations.
And to answer your extremely contrived western basement dwelling narrative, the western regiments don't train with the MARCOS commandos, Rashtriya Rifles, CIF, and Para SF for nothing. There is a lot to be learned and taught.
What's the general consensus on South African SF? Do Green Beret's (3rd Group) often get to work with them?
I'm Australian and would often bump in to ex recces in Iraq that were doing PMC work, they seemed ok. They had a good reputation pre '94.
P.S. 2 Comando and other Australian military forces do NOT have the power to randomly go out and arrest civilians, they CAN depending on the premises, i.e. defence force premises, but just to wander out and arrest people..NO! I find it hard to give credibitilty now this guy has said that..maybe he just didn't understand?
He’s probably talking about the TAG east/ TAG west rotation which is domestic terror/hostage response. Meaning they can definitely be deployed and under the circumstances make lawful arrests. However they don’t just walk the streets arresting people like Police haha
How about the NZ SAS? Shame if you haven’t worked with them.
Ex aussie here, 3RAR. The Kiwi SAS Is very highly regarded in world wide circles. They are considered among the very best trackers around to.
any experience or info on Norwegian special operations?
great vid
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Did you ever link up with the Danish frogmen?
Not gonna deny that on the part of the PNP SAF and other filipino units, their tactics are somehow outdated but they are effective
Every ANA guy said he was "commando special force". I was embedded with those fucks for 2 deployments. 4 Canadians in a strong point with an ANA rifle coy made for interesting situations.
Actually SAF unit in the Philippines have more combat experience than any other SOF unit in the Philippines. They take down and hunt high value targets in Mindanao that was actually insane. They work together with Light Reaction Regiment from AFP.. Actually SAF and LRR is the best unit in the Philippines especially the Marawi Siege they are tandem.
A good drinking game :-
Take a shot every time he touches his hat :)
Kidding. Good video :)
Cool vid!!!
Could you go into more detail on Canadian sof? Our government provides literally nothing about special forces.
I had a business and we used to look after Japanese jornalists in AUstralia, we also had to clean their places when they left and I had this Japanese guy show me through and explain a few things to me, that was Hori. He said :" the kitchen is dirty if Japanese man live here by himself tu he will tell you it is clean, because it is woan's work and he wont recognise it is dirty" just an interesting insight. Also Hori was born in the US but ran their company in Australia, he drove an Ausralian Ford, he said to me one day, "I go home as soon as they tell me," I said.."so you will go back to America just like that?" he said "No,.,,Japan is my home" He had never been there in his live..one thing he did say that amused me more was that when he did " I will take my Australian Ford with me."
any experience with the Swedish SF or SOG units ?
No New Zealand SAS?
Im British but i always hear great things about the Canadian SOF.
Did you ever had any exposure to Philippines Light reaction regiment? if so how good are they?
Trained with them, amazing soldiers, hard as nails.
Proud of our troops. 👍🇦🇺
I defy any unit on your top ten list or those with special mention to stand in the doorway to the old girls arriving for their bingo game, right now I got $100 that says, seals, commando and SASR all get their arses handed to them.
Do you have experience working (training) with the Indonesian SOF? Are they competent enough?
I personally never worked in Indonesia so I can’t really comment on that unfortunately.
I know SASR sometimes train with The Kopassus, however the general consensus from ADF members is neutral, meaning I've never heard our guys talking bad about them.
Did you ever work with the french? Heard aome good things about GIGN
Nope, never worked with any French unit.
@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm I've heard the same, it's baller as fuck
point man use .357 or .44 because of stopping power@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm
@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm in an airplane ? or train ? or boat ? plus revolver never fails, first shot first kill. so the tools chosen depends on critirea.
@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm .357magnum DA revolvers. Leroy Thompson wrote articles about GIGN. He trained with SAS, Met, Special Branch, GSG9 🇩🇪 ....
I knew an Irish who at the time was working for Mechen, a South African demining company in Mozambique. His name was Paddy. He had been British SAS, Rhodesian SAS, and SA Recce. He participated with Renamo guerrillas in the destruction of Beira oil deposits around 1978. He spoke highly of the Portuguese paras and strangely he despised the Israeli special forces. He said they were mere propaganda.
I don’t know if this unit still exists: Lanceros? Colombia. They also had actual combat CT ops as a Graduation exercise.
What do you think about the Hungarian Special Forces(HUNSOF)?
Worked with the 34th in Afghanistan. Recon unit mostly.
@@mannyhernandez6507 What was your overall experience working with them?
He wouldn’t have worked with them. The 10th group handles Europe, this guy was 1st group.
salute sir, did you ever worked with Tunisians ? ( they won Leapfest 1994, Tunisian Airborn Regiment)
Anyone worked with Georgian special forces? If yes, were they any good?
Always so funny the English getting butthurt over the SASR getting rated higher than their SAS 😂😂
well most brits know our history ,,we dont need bullshite social media gobshites saying there sf are better when they cannot back it up like us brits,,,, our warriors did more in ww2 than the rest of the world has done in a lifetime ,, butthurt? yes its about our evolution and no country on this planet comes close ,
They are still a bit bitter about shipping us to a country that turned out 10x better than their own 😅
If only I knew drinking hard and being amazing at fast roping was high on the list of a Green beret. 😂😂
Same selection and the same training. My father is Australian and said the same thing.
Cansof is amazing but the FranceSOF were highly underrated. All great.
Although not technically Special forces, Whats your view on the Royal Marine Commandos Nathan?
Haven’t ever work with them so my opinion isn’t worth much on that front.
For such a small corps, around six to seven thousand, they provide a huge percentage of all UK SF.
lol
@@ValhallaVFT
Same level as seals
@@inquisitorsneed2 yes, except for team 6.
What about the Dutch? We have the KCT (equivalent to green berets) and Marsof (equivalent to Marsoc/seals) and they are pretty capable from what I hear.
They didn't make the list because he didn't work with them. That was the caveat at the beginning.
@@georgeedmond3401 yeah I know wiseacre, the question was mostly directed to the comment section. Also he could’ve heard something from the other group that works in Europe mostly.
@@j9717j "..Like the Germans, the Dutch don't have a sense of humor ..." That's what he probably heard.
What are your thoughts on JTF 2?
Before 2cdo was 4RAR based at Holsworthy in NSW Australia ,which wiped Indonesian special forces search party dressed as civilians in East Timor which was tracking 4RAR soldiers in the jungle but got chopped by heavy machine gun fire and one got head blown apart by a grenade launcher fired into vacant build which they tried to hide after brief skirmish in jungle but it's been said TAG West is the best unit tactically for any type international incident basically best of all spec ops soliders selected to be in tag west which also counter terrorism unit does west coast of Australia for terrorism an TAG East is similar but on eastern coast which is also based in Holsworthy barracks
Where are you getting the info about the Indonesian SF? The action you refer to were pro Indonesian Militia. Kopassus were believed to of helped coordinate the Militia but were not believed to have been involved in the action. Also, it was a SAS patrol and not a 4 RAR (CDO) patrol that was involved.
I suspect Kiwi SAS would rank well
Just wondering how you can rate the Israeli special forces if you haven't worked with them? A tier 1 unit like the british SBS/SAS would unlikely be paired up with a tier 2 unit like the Green Berets for high level jobs. You mention a freefall operation with the SAS, no british SF units dropped into Iraq or Afghanistan in this recent war. Tier 1& 2 are vastly different mission objectives. It's not a dig at your list, however it is a mirror of the tasks and missions ( that you know doubt smashed ) your untit was assigned. the Green Berets are wizards man but the the objectives for Tier 1 and 2 are incomparable.
Cheers, did you manage to work with the romanian SOF? I heard they operated with the american SOF community but i have never heard any feedback besides the diplomatic stuff ..
Thank you!
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Swede here, wondering if you or anyone you know has worked with the Swedish SOG and what you/they thought of them.
I don’t, too bad too, that’s where my family is from. Would have been cool to work with them.
@@ValhallaVFT I understand. The SOG have been my dream/obsession for about the last two years so I want to get my hands on as much info as I can.
@@ValhallaVFTI was wondering if you have Italian roots too?...
I suppose you know this already but to for anyone else, pnpsaf is a police unit. Closest equivalent would probably FBI HRT but not super specialized. Theyre military trained police.
I would love for you to do one about PH rangers and SF. And LRR which is our delta, trained by the US. Takes recruits from SF and Rangers. Im sure some US SF wpuld have stories
the last you mention is not really expose in actual combat. SAF is the everyday terrorist hunter in Mindanao
@@liriko6310you mean everyday present in highway check points
What would you say the best conventional unit you’ve worked with is?
Conventional U.S. unit or foreign? We don’t typically work with conventional units for the most part.
@@ValhallaVFT either one but mainly us like 82nd or 101st, wanting to go sof but my running is no where near where it needs to be and am looking for a stepping stone
1st ID deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 to integrate with ODAs and MARSOC and help with VSO. We were relieved by 82nd. I'm not aware of any other conventional units that worked SOF missions.
I worked with norwegian special forces. MJK and FSK. They talked alot of shit about american SEALS. That they were full of steroids, not able to ruck and did not handle the cold. They even aborted a diving excersise because of high waves.
What is your empression of the norwegians?
Any idea where the Dutch commando's and the NLmarsof rank compared to other special forces? Never heard anyone outside of my country talk about them
Haven’t heard anything about them and haven’t worked with them so I don’t know.
Retired 18Z here, 5th & 10th Gp. I worked with the Commandos years ago, after the train hijacking. They were really nice guys, and of course, like most Dutch, spoke excellent English. This was years before 9/11. My recollections are hazy, but I remember them putting us through CQB, and they had some great tactics. Sorry, I can't remember more. By the way before SF, when I was a paratrooper with the 509th Abn out of Vicenza, Italy, I did the Nijmegen marches 3 times. We did 1 25miler in 5hrs 11mins. Love the Dutch people!
@@danstoye3902 I salute you my Italian brother. Thanks for sharing this information with me. I've been in the army for a year now as a CBRN operator but hadn't got the chance to talk with a commando yet since I rarely see them. Definitely planning on partaking in the Nijmegen marches next year tho
did you ever work with Pakistani SF they must have experience fighting the pakistani taliban too i guess ,also how are the indian para sf guys they also have been fighting insurgencies in india both there armies are amongst the best in the world with nuclear arsenals i bet there special forces would be pretty amazing too
PNP SAF is a police unit and not military. It's a great thing that a police special operations is among some of the best military units.
I didn’t say best military units I worked with. I said special operations units.
@@ValhallaVFTdamn right
I'm sorry to say but Saf is the best unit in the Philippines in terms of actual combat operations in mindanao..they hunt and kill HVT's all around mindanao
Is Spetznas still good these days?
Most of them are dead now... except the Alfa group, but they are more domestically oriented.
My wife is a Filipina and I have a house in the Philippines. Her cousin is in the Philippines Rangers.
The PNP SAF you mentioned was police unit. You should have worked with the AFP units like the Light Reaction Regiment, NAVSOG, Scout Ranger and the SF those were really on par with western special units, highly skilled and experienced in a subpar equipment.
overproud afp check 🤣 tingin mo dyan hindi nakipag trained sa ibang unit ng AFP ? USSF green beret yan engot 🤣 tuturuan mo pa yung instructor 🤣 nanunuod ka na nga hindi mo pa naintindihan sinasabi 🤣 pilit mo pa yung SR na mga hilaw 🤣
He knows who's the best in the Philippines. he actually worked on AFP Sof unit but he didn't like em
@@marchmondaze07266 lol ok instik bodyguard.
@@liriko6310 no
@@scaucymancannotdiebaby7034 kawawa ka naman 🤣 haha alam na alam ng USSF kung sino mga hilaw at walan pinag aralan na mga highschool na uhaw sa atensyon at papuri 🤣 mga mabababang uri hahahaha
Are the Philippine rock marines the same as their saf
CANSOF
JTF2 (tier 1 unit, It is notable that JTF2 remains the only foreign (from the American point of view) special operation unit to be conducted into American JSOC Tier 1 ranking (Along with Delta and Seal Team 6).
CSOR (tier 2, which is probably the one he is referencing, since green beret is a tier 2 unit)
Correct me if I am wrong sir.
Tiers don’t mean anything outside of funding.
Delta and ST6 doesn't work with U.S. Special Forces. 😁
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Super Kuiu.
#ericcsrtman
Experience with the SAS? (Brittish)
How about French and German SOF? Friend who was in the marines worked with the french regular army in afghan and speaks very highly of them
german special forces are nuts,the best of them are the ksm!