Mastering Class D Radios | Class Delta ATC Communications
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video we're going over VFR radio communications with Air Traffic Control for flying in and out of Class D airspace. Even though we're based at Deer Valley Airport in Phoenix AZ, we decided to pretend we're just stopping for gas to be consistent with our other videos for flying in and out of Class C and Class B airports.
Really, class D is where it all starts. It's considered the runt of the towered airports and is usually used for airports that have enough traffic to warrant a tower. BUT that's not always the case. Sometimes the Airspace around the airport can force it to be a Class D, like at Deer Valley. It's the busiest general aviation airport in the US and could EASILY be class C, but the class B above it wont let it. Just some food for thought.
Anyways, enjoy the coms as we fly in and out of the class D airspace of Deer Valley Airport.
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These are genuinely SO helpful for new pilots that stress about atc like me!
Glad you're enjoying them!
Thanks for another very useful video. I'm training out of a Class D airport and your videos are very helpful. I appreciate you.
THANKS! I appreciate you watching the videos!
I will never understand why ATC is in such a hurry and mumbo jumbo the words.
Depends on the airport. When you’re managing 1000+ operations getting through things quickly is important.
How ever dislike this video on the wrong frequency
Holy crap was that ATC speaking FAST! 😵 I couldn't understand a word she said. Radio communication is the hardest part of flying, in my experience. I've (politely) asked ATC to slow down, and in a few cases, they responded as if I had asked them to kill their dog or something.
Eventually you'll know what they're going to say and you are just verifying key words. And yes, they can talk really fast. LOL It's why I put subtitles in.
@Jonathan Cutting, I second that! She talks WAY too fast, and there's hardly good enunciation and pausation between her words to make her speech intelligible. I'm a long-time ham radio operator and used to diciphering hard-to-make-out speech, but seriously now, that is unnecessarily too fast to 'register' in the brain.
Great video. BTW you have a greasy smudge on your top lip.😂
Yea... I was WAY to lazy to shave the morning of recording. I was a bit behind. =)
I got my training at deer valley Airport in 2002 it was super busy then I remember the controller saying we are full! incoming aircraft stay out until he says he can take more planes. Stressful at times but great training
First time that happened to me was on my checkride. LOL
Me too Ryan! Started Jan, 2002 had PPL June 2002. Westwind with Floyd Klamut (Great instructor!) Now, I fly an Arrow II on the north side.
@@flywiththeguys So do you usually just fly around near the airport or what is the procedure?
I just found your channel this is extremely helpful thank you, seriously thank you.
Glad you did! Welcome and thanks for watching. =)
Great video, but good lord I'd be calling in a complaint against that controller. Her enunciation is terrible. She's not busy, no excuse for that nonsense. "Clertulun," give me a break. I wouldn't have known what she said without your subtitles. Anyways, great video!
Yea. I know what you mean. Everything is so standardized that I understand the calls and am mostly verifying what I know is coming and repeating as needed. I can get caught off guard when something isn't standardized.
Anyone who operates out of KDVT should get a gold star or silver wings on their pilot certificate. My Base is Mesa Falcon Field. It is sometimes busy but nothing like the Class Delta equivalent of LAX that Deer Valley often is.
I loved flying into Falcon Field, it was so easy
Agreed!
Deer Valley has calmed down a lot from just a few years back.
@@MacGyverGTP yes that’s what I’m seeing lately. Now Falcon Field’s traffic has increased dramatically.
Did my training out of dvt at west wind, makes you a great pilot
This is so difficult in my training currently. Just trying to remember what's being said and reading back without a brain fart lol.
I know what you mean! Seriously though, checkout plane english! It can help a LOT!
Another great video. Your videos really helped when I had to take my checkride!
Great to hear! It's why we make this kind of stuff.
Can you make a video about CTAF calls? I am training out of an uncontrolled airport in Australia. Thanks
Is this what you’re looking for? th-cam.com/video/3yItNvFk1mk/w-d-xo.html
Why did he instruct you to go to the runup area if you didnt ask to do that? Do all cessnas require engine runup prior to departure?
Some airports have runup areas, others do not and you just do it at the end of the runway. All piston engine aircraft do a runup to double check systems and controls. At our airport they will aways send us to the runup area unless we request otherwise.
Using Minecraft to explain aviation, I love this channel.
Thanks! I thought it was creative.
Another GREAT (non) training video!!
Agreed!
What's romeo 8?
I could be wrong, but I think it’s the taxiway that he was located at.
Yeah could be a taxiway 🤷🏻♂️
R8 is the ramp area where he is currently located. (That’s where the north hangars are) So he called Ground to request taxi to the Runway. Ground responded telling him to taxi to the engine run up area via Alpha. He needed permission before entering taxiway Alpha. Hope this helps!
Romeo 8, or R8 was my location on the airfield. Telling them that allows them to locate me immediately and provide appropriate directions to where I need to go. If you look at an airport diagram you'll see them labeled between parking and taxiways. Here's a link to mine - skyvector.com/files/tpp/2106/pdf/06646AD.PDF
@@flywiththeguys @TheFunninthesun Thanks! Very helpful!
Lots of complaints about the ATC comms, but seemed fine to me as a (more advanced?) student. Fast, but i understood all the instructions.
Even still, if you are a student and struggling, let ATC know! Ask them to repeat and let them know you are a a student. It's nothing to be embarrassed about.
I asked Center to repeat themselves with every radio call on my first solo XC. It wasn't a problem.
Edit:
I fly almost exclusively in Echo. I'm just older, and a veteran, so I have a big chunk of life experience to build off of.
Yes, let them know. But it's a skill you have to learn. Its like saying "I can play the guitar" without ever picking one up. Yea you can strum it and make some some noise, but you have to practice to get good at it. ATC is the exact same way.
Freaking Perfect. *NOT TRAINING, but should be...Great video dude!
Thanks Matt!
I flew into KBFL (Bakersfield Meadows) which has an approach control. You know it’s a quiet day when approach control gave me “30 right, straight in cleared to land”….
Departing Deer Valley was crazy when I made this. On my way back in (yes I played them in reverse for the video) it was so quiet I got cleared to land before I entered their airspace.
Great video but I'd like to point out that you truncated your tail number before tower. Technically a no no but so many of us do it.
A lot of us do. I had a bad habit at the time of doing that when verifying, but not on initial contact. Some of the coms in this were edited though, to help make the video flow better.
Try speaking slower, there’s no rush.
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Thanks!
That was very helpful! Thank you
You're welcome!
how has this not gotten more views! good luck to all student pilots here
I know right?!
Great segment, very helpful. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you these videos help a bunch
Glad you like them!
It`s been a long time but it`s coming back to me
GOOD! Hopefully this helped a little. Checkout PlaneEnglish too. Really helps a lot!
Great Video. Thanks
No problem.
What's a runup?
It's where you put the plane through its paces and double check everything prior to departure.
speed x .75.
Could help!
You are a great teacher 👍
Thank you! 😃
It is a great job
Thanks!
Thanks!!
No Problem. =)
Great content, thank you!
My pleasure!