How to tie into the harness with Perfect Figure 8 knot every time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- The fastest method to tie a Figure 8 knot into the climbing harness.
100% perfect and easy to untie.
Figure 8 is the most popular knot for Rock Climbing, because it is very hard to mess up and super easy to double check.
Alternatively people choose to use Bowline (one of the 5 safe variations), because they have / had trouble untying Figure 8 after hard Climbing falls.
However as I've shown in this video: • Why Figure 8 knot is N...
If you tie your Figure 8 properly you won't have any trouble to untie it later.
If you are a bowline user keep in mind that most of the people don't know how to double check your knot.
And if you never tied a bowline before and someone asks you to double check his bowline - don't do that! Instead, tell the person "I don't know how to check your knot please double check it your self".
P.S. If you wonder why I call this NINJA method it's because I learned this from Korean climber who looked super strong and fast like a NINJA :DDDD
0:00 Intro
0:53 Doing initial figure 8
4:21 Harness
7:08 Follow through method
10:34 Don't cross load figure 8
10:53 Bonus
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@Hard Is Easy To remember the way to tie: start hard, finish easy!
(Start hard by pushing the rope to the side and finish easy by going through the big hole :) )
Yeaaa this is super nice!!! I love it!!!
I prefer 'start small, finish big' - it's more accurate to what you're actually doing, and a more natural phrase that won't get confused ("start easy, finish hard" makes a lot more sense than "start big, finish small").
@@Phazaar I get what you're saying, but start hard finish easy is something a lot of us heard as kids, guessing op did too, as in study hard now and you won't have to struggle as an adult
I learned “skinny hole, fat hole” 😂
Пожалуй это самый толковый видеоурок, спасибо !!!
Finally someone actually explained what the correct figure 8 looks like and how to tie it step by step. Thanks a lot, man, good job
aaah nice thanks!
Also someone who actually puts the camera in the perspective of our eyes when tying a knot. All other videos puts the camera in the perspective of watching someone else tying a knot.
@@HardIsEasy I see lots of videos and they were all really good but yours is the ultimate best
Never climbed a day in my life, yet here I am learning these knots. Thanks COVID.
This is your time Jack! Get after it (-=
Its a call 😜
I refuse to thank convid for anything
@@dannylaing5585 korinthenkacker...
Knots are useful tools for many applications 😄
I am 72 years old and needed
little 'reminders' and you are the perfect instructor.Superb and many thanks.
Yea it's a long video teaching you how to save time :D But this video is a part of coming Belay Masterclass and little details make a huge difference in critical situations. So climb safe and smile more ;)
😃 smiling always helps 😁
I think you misunderstood the reason why some people tie a 'safety knot'. You're right it doesn't add any strength to the knot but that is not why it is tied. It is tied simply to ensure that your tail is long enough. No need to guess the length - if you can tie the safety knot then you have enough. Also it should be cinched down neatly on top of the figure of 8, not like you show in the video. It never gets in the way like this.
Alex Webber if you have enough rope to tie off your Fig. Of Eight with a stopper you have too much tail. A hand span is sufficient. It also shows lack of mastery IMHO if you are not consistent.
@@beyondthepale2023 I do it because most gyms in the UK require it. I'm merely pointing out the correct logic and form, which is different to what is shown in this video.
So, if it is long, it’s wrong- the video that is... Not so, I found this video cleverly edited, a great casually thorough verbal presentation, and perfectly presented. Whomever did the video work and edited it - WELL DONE! I’m going to use this for tying in to my bosun’s chair for going up the mast! It’ll take a little practice though.
I have 30 years climbing experience and degree in math, so I think about knots and symmetry a lot. But I never noticed that one symmetry is easier to untie than the other, and I've never heard any other climber note this either. Did you figure this out on your own? Kudos!
Thank you so much! If you haven't seen my another video this is how I discovered it: th-cam.com/video/QAr-uHd8h8o/w-d-xo.html
@@makingadjustments being bitter every time you see someone achieve something says more about you
Honestly no one cares lol
Hmmm, interesting finding.
@@notthebees4961I don't see why he is being bitter about it 🤔
When I had saw that the video is 13 minutes long I thought it's impossible to make the interesting and useful video 'how to tie a figure 8 knot' that is so long. I was wrong. Good job. Now I know good video for newbies (and not only newbies) that teach to tie figure 8 with many useful details.
Ah great! I'll cover many more basics before going into depth on Belaying ;)
Thank you! My son is an adaptive climber. I just took a belay class at his gym and had a challenging time with the fig 8. Your video smoothed me out and I am now feeling more confident about belaying him.
Although my kids learned the figure 8 at the gym, I've shown them this vid then walked them through it and it's become the way they always tie in now. It just 'clicked' for them. Mahalo and Aloha.
I was taught to follow through on the “outside” of the figure 8 which gives you this perfect knot. Never knew it was the best!
Same. I noticed that while he was showing it, and the crossed knots drives me crazy lol
I use a little tip to help my students to remember how to start and finish the follow through part. I say that they need to start small and finish big (referring to the sizes of the holes formed by the rope in one or the other side of the strand you need to follow. Little complicate to explain in a writing form but very easy to see and understand.
Brilliant video! Been tying figure 8’s for 20 years now, and this is the best method ever! Perfect knot every time. Thank you!
You are one of the best instructors out there. step by step and explaining WHY certain thing should be the way they are makes it "stick" so much better. Excellent work, and thank you very much.
I appreciate that!
Who knew you could spend 13 minutes talking about the humble figure 8 knot? Absolutely fascinating... thank-you for sharing!
Dude, you're a really good teacher, and that's not easy. Congrats! love your videos. Have been training falling and it feels great!
This video FINALLY made me realise why some of my figure 8s were off. Foolproof. Thanks so much!
Really nice lesson. If not climbed for a decade but all the instruction videos didn't seem to match what little i could remember. Finally found the right video and the right way before my refresher course. Thanks
Man what a great vid! I’ve climbed for 15 years and this is the best explanation I’ve seen and heard. Same with your previous vid to untie it and where the load is placed. I’m definitely taking this info for when teaching new friends the figure 8, thanks!! Sub’d for sure!
I used to be an Alpine Guide in Piedmont and Val D'Aosta, Italy. Your video about making a double-eight knot is spot on! Bravo!
Love how you edit the videos and explain things. I usually have problems with a figure 8 but this method is so easy. Thanks for the work it took to make this video.
I’m not even a climber and enjoyed everything on this video 🤟🏽
Thank you for teaching me! This was easy, informative, and the best video I’ve watched on figure 8.
One of the better explanation gurus on TH-cam. This guy is a legend and pretty sure genuinely a nice guy. You will not find clearer explanations of climbing techniques or apparel on the internet. ❤
I spent a lot of time sitting in my harness today and my knots were really hard to untie - this video was just what I needed, thank you!
6:20 "they type of person that can miss a hole" - Which under cold, wet, stressful , sleep-deprived, time-sensitive etc. conditions it is very possible to do. Human factors are often discounted as being down to low competency, and this attitude has and still does cost lives.
I took it as inuendo. 😋 I think mine was funnier.
I learned so much, I always thought that the figure 8 had no down sides, but the cross loading is something I never thought about. Its super facinating
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Happy I watch this! the belay class I took didn’t explain the knots and most of the knots being made would look different and now I understand why. Thanks for explaining it like you have done!
Thanks a lot. Perfect instruction, with a nice pace to follow along easily. Also, love the way you explain all the variations and why to do or not to do.
I will not ever be climbing but I felt it necessary to learn this knot. Thanks
One of the best climbing educational channels. Bless you)
Well done, very clear and understandable. I especially liked the addition of first-person shots so that you can see how it will look when tying your own
I think everyone here knows the 8 knot but you give these little extra advice that you get from years of experience that are the real lesson here!
I am loving these videos so much they are so comprehensive
Great dedication to make a video about figure 8. Explained superbly, thanks! :)
This video is really a revelation. I had sometimes strange knots after a fall, now I see the difference. And of course, so much easier to untie. THANKS!
Which one is easier to untie?
Thank you, your slow detailed walkthrough got me tying figure 8 knots on my first try.
Best figure 8 demonstration ever, nice one dude
The best tutorial I've seen. You took your time and explained it very well. I know how to do it now after multiple people tried to demonstrate it to me in person!
I just did a week long climbing course and I loved every second of it I do not regret my choice of going
Finally someone speaking sense about unnecessary stopper knots!
I used this method in ropejumping:) Hello from Ukraine!))
Great video Ben. Passing the rope bottom->up also helps seeing the loops easier and prevent anyone from missing it.
I learned and make it eversince exactly the same way, 100% perfect knots everytime, practice until you can do it blind folded and remember to always partner check!
Yea good point... I also think that top down is easier to mess up... Thanks!
Bonus point for explaining what figure of 8 is for and is not for! Hats off from a sailor.
Best video by far on this topic. Will be saving this for future reference WAY more clear than other videos and direct.
Best knot video I've seen so far!!
Thanks for the refresher! I hadn't climbed in 8 years. This was perfect for getting certified at the new gym.
the best tutorial I have found. thanks a lot
Perfect video for refreshing my memory. Thanks.
thanks a lot for this clear explanation without any fancy blabla!
One of the best climbing channels, keep going and I'm waiting for more!!
Loved the way you suggested .....To blindfold and make knots .......Helpful in night.......Many don't tell this .......I like the way you explain to cover in 360'.........The kNots were easy just because you explained so well
Wow! Fixed some minor details in my knot that are actually big details. Best fig 8 video that I’ve seen yet. Looking forward to seeing more instructional vids.
I'm a beginner wall climber and this is a great tutorial. Thankyou.
This is so useful - finally I know how to consistently tie a good figure of 8. Thanks!
Very well explained and backed up with evidence. Bravo!
I love the level of analysis. I spent 3 days myself looking for safe variations of the bowline to have a knot that is easier to untie. Little did I know there was a better way to tie a figure of 8. I even had a reapeatable, habitual way of tying it but as it turns out it was the worse kind.
Try it and let us know if it's easier to untie ;)
i now tie my knot like this guy. Thanks man! subscribed! Keep making videos please!
Thank you! This video taught me everything I needed to know
I’ve taught my kids to “go in hard” because of this knot. I saw your channel earlier today and subscribed because the channel name says it all ! Now I’m hooked.
Two minutes in and already one of the best instructional videos I've seen. Love the subtle humor, and way to tell em that it don't need no back up! However, I'd just like to add that the orientation of the initial part of the knot, where you say "it should be on the left not the right" around 7:30, doesn't actually matter, you can achieve a clean figure 8 either way, you just have to follow it the correct way.
I agree. This dude explains stuff so idiots like me can understand
The orientation in the video makes it easier imo since it's easier to put the second loops on top of the existing loops. If you tie the knot with the line going to the left, putting the second loops on top, that's how you end up with the loop of the load end of the rope being on top rather than below (and thus a rope that's difficult to open after a hard fall) Although TBH in my limited experience of top roping this has never happened anyway - the only gotcha we had with things being difficult to open was if we screwed the locking carabiner for the belay device snug and then it tightens more when you load it. My instructor taught the way being shown in this video - with the exception that he didn't show the fancy twisting at the beginning - but did have the line going to the right. He also gave us a cut off of rope to practise. When I practised at home I did it the other way but added the twist (which I'd seen others do) Obviously both knots are safe but having watched this video I've swapped now.
Amazing stuff! Very well explained and funny too. It is easy to overlook the amazing skills you have. Keep the videos streaming, they are amazing!
This is the only video that could teach me how to tie the first figure 8 knot.
In my country, we need to pass a practical exam for belaying. I was so stressed because I could not tie a figure 8 knot consistently and I did not know why I can’t do so.
Luckily TH-cam lead me to this video and I learnt how to tie the knot in the most simple way. Thanks so much!!
Best tutorial ive seen! Thanks from a climbing noob! 😁❤🙏
You're a treasure!
After your last video I paid some attention to my figure 8 and found the idea of starting the follow through knot by making that little gap, nice to see it was your recommended way
Fantastic! Well recommended... by me :DDDD
💯 The best video on this knot! Bravo. Thank you!
Excellent, the best knot tutorial in youtube!
Super nice technique, thanks for sharing 🙌
What a fantastic tutorial!!!
Thankl so much from Australia!
Ok I've watched several videos. Your spirit and approach make you undeniably unique and interesting. Keep it up. I'm not saying people should follow you blindly, but you certainly provide a model for individual, critical thinking giving people something to think about and this was a great example follow up of how and why to tie a dang knot!
TH-cam Just needed this video, as you said most People don't explain the right way to do it. It took a bit of time to figure out the right way by my self, i think this video will help many people.
Keep doing thoose videos they are very helpful.
same here... It took me a while to learn my way... and I saw how other students are struggling... Thanks!
wow! This was SO GOOD and soooooooo detailed and soooooo helpful! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
Such a great explanation. I came just by curiosity but still learned a few more things that I didn't know
Hi there I ve bern climbing since sept21 roughly 3 times a week for 2hrs. I did giggled at " people that can miss a loop" first time when i watched this video few months ago. Until yesterday, when i tied my figure 8 only through the hip loop. Nothing bad happened (apart from discomfort on the way down) but lesson learned about routine, staying aware and checking each other.
The best Chanel I have ever seen treasure of knowledge 🌟❤️
You are a master at this. Thank you!!!
I learned and always did exactely like you and never had any problems🔝👍👏
I love that you collabed with Ryan! I've checked out quite a few videos on your channel since, and I'm sure I'll be a regular watcher now! Thanks for the great content!
More to come for sure :D Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video ! I've been awaiting it since you teased it and it comes at an especially good time as my climbing partner and I are doing fall training following your other videos ! And we had trouble untying our knots.
Thank you! Explanation was perfect!
Thank you so much you made it really easy to understand and love how you demonstrated it
Great vid, you addressed a lot of very useful points. Thanks for sharing!!!!👍👍👍👍
Your teaching is very thorough and your accent is endearing. I particularly like the way you say "because"/"becorz." :D Thank you for the great lesson. I've been climbing for 5 years or so but finally just bought my own rope and I'm very excited!
Haha thank you so much, and good news for you, becorz many more videos like this coming ;)
Excellent video, been tying and teaching this way for years, even down to the slight press of the eight when starting the rethread, after stumbling on the same knot loading based on strand position a while back, as well as having accidentally clipped a loose tail and a knotted tail while being in close to a bolt.
A couple additional notes is bringing the knot in close, close enough to tension the tie in points, will reduce how much the knot rotates around the tie in points during a fall. This has the benefit of decreasing the likelihood of being flipped as well as decreasing wear on the harness by distributing this evenly between the tie in points and not grinding the nylon rope against nylon loops.
As to tying in top down or bottom up, easier to see you are hitting both loops from the bottom, thus the idea of top down “incase you miss one” being likelier to cause the miss. Further, because the leg loops are likelier to slide upward than the waist belt is to slide downward, this means the knot will generally be better centered and therefore distribute the load better. Using the top down method, you have to maintain tension for a couple passes of the knot to position the knot. These are both utterly minimal benefits, but if all other matters are equal then learn the minimally better one.
Thanks for the notes ;)
Thank you buddy for a great video! Note that the control knot in the figure eight is required on slippery climbing ropes (for example, Mammut Serenity dry 8.7). I have repeatedly lost a strand of the eight, if i do not impose a control knot on long mountaineering ascents. I recommend checking the knot periodically on long climbing routes.
On long climbs the checking is more important and easier without the control knot. On a brand new 'slippery' rope even on short climbs I'd use the extra stopper.
Ayyyy yo boy right here just got ceritified using this technique 🔥🔥🔥 Thank you
Thank you so much I am just learning everything and this helps alot
Fascinating video! Exceptionally well made, entertaining, and really in depth and informative! Great stuff :)
I have watched 8 videos on tying figure 8’s. Finally I get it by watching you.
Serious, I tired an REI video and it only made it more complicated. lol This guy knows whats up!
I was totally doing this wrong 😅 I’ve been using a bowline for the last couple of years because I got so frustrated with figure 8 knots. This was super useful! Going to give it a try this evening 😊
This is insanely helpful. Thank you!
Very in depth tutorial. U went over everything important at the perfect pace.
Thanks Zake!
Thanks man! Very nice and clear explanation skills.
I tie it the same way except for the first part; on the second part I m never quite sure if the load line goes up or down, just that the nod is symmetric. I'll definitively apply that!
Great job Ben, as a Physics graduate I ve always loved your science videos, keep them up! :))
Haa thanks a lot! I'm sure you gonna dig the next video I'll make :D It will have real physics :D
Perfect tutorial. Thanks.
Excellent video - thanks. Been at the game a while and STILL learned something - alpine butterfly next please
You are the best climbing - video - guy on the webs :)
Thank you my friend. I only had to watch it once and I could make a figure 8 knot in less than a minute.
thank you! I've been wondering for a while why sometimes my knots are super easy to intie, and sometimes a struggle a lot. Can't wait to try this ot in gym
Nice Video! I always go bottom-up and had never a problem.
Thank you so much for this. You helped me pass my belay test!