Thank you for giving me the fiery confusion that comes from Grey being frustrated from the daylight savings change. I could petal just a little bit faster to school.
I recently finished graduate school in the state of Georgia, and am still there as a professor. 5 years ago, just before starting graduate school, I attended the IMC in Bulgaria. I usually said I was from America, but when the subject of what I was doing next came up, I said I was going to graduate school in Georgia. Despite my fully American accent (the bulk of people there were European), I did several times have to specify that it was the U.S. state and not the country.
Premieres are currently majorly bugged, they are not appearing in recommended videos after they are released at all. Also they suck because they bury your content in my sub feed and I despise them, please don't use them.
I have seen a video that "premiered" before in my recommended videos - but it didn't show up on the subscriptions page, nor did I get a notification of it. But yeah, I usually just dl the podcast from the website to listen to it on my phone, and use the youtube video release as a reminder - now I have to remember doing that by myself.
As a Welsh person I run into this all the time! Usually people do know where/what Wales is, but I always either lead with or add 'UK' or 'Britain'. Even if they do get offended that I'm assuming they won't know where Wales is, it saves people from asking and saves them from assuming or just moving on if they've never heard of it. I used to live in Austria and they always got it mixed up with Wels near Linz haha.
I think the Banksy point was more in the camp of countering/commenting on the gentrification and commodification of art as tools and toys for systemic benefactors and the inevitable defanging of the initial artistic intent and expression, that in Banksy's case often show counter cultural and anti-elite sentiments, through the process of commodification. At least more than a simple "ops all gone, art is fleeting"-thing.
Shokan To be fair if you told any American that you were from Rome or Paris or London, they'd know just what you were talking about. Brooklyn isn't quite the same as "Arkansas."
A friend went to Germany. When asked where he was from, and he answered, "the US." The German said, "Yes, but where in the US?" Just like Grey said, my friend was treated like an idiot. Like of course, we know you're from the US, but where specifically.
It depends WHO youre talking to and if it matters. In Brady's original situation talking to a shaman... does it really matter? If you talk to some mainland chinese person, they do not know your states, dont even bother. And I do think Brady is being hypocritical. Just say UK. Most people, statistically, think that England IS the UK anyway.
It's exactly the same here in Scotland we know were you are from from 10 miles away and I only ask in case you are a Canadian without a noticeable accent.
I like the idea, being able to interact with a live chat for the first time is great, but I'd rather have a shorter wait time, since like many I'd rather have the surprise of finding it and being surprised or receiving a notification from my podcast app. I'm not sure how you could get that to work, but now I'm going to be anticipating this for the whole day... Can't wait!
Mainly not a fan of premiere because Ive been trying to get to bed and now Im weighing staying up 100 minutes later to start listening to this Its 3:24am and I have insomnia
Also HI is kinda an exception but I also hate premiere cuz it takes up real estate of my sibscription feed. its always a bummer to click on a good looking video and have it end up beig a premier for 3 hours later
Screwball Scramble (also known as "Snafu: The Maze Game That Runs You Ragged", "Run Yourself Ragged" and "Tricky Golf") is a toy made by TOMY that involves guiding a 13 millimeter diameter chrome steel ball bearing around an obstacle course. A player guides the ball by using various buttons, dials and levers that affect parts of the course. The first part of the course is the tilting walkway; by pressing a button the player must tilt the parts of the walkway in order to rock the ball across and place it on the platform at the end. By turning a dial the player must pick the ball up from the platform using the magnetic crane and deposit it on the parallel bars. The parallel bars are two metal rods on which the ball sits, by moving these rods apart with a lever the ball can be made to roll along the rods. If the rods are opened too far, however, the ball will fall through. If successful, the ball will roll off the end of the rods and onto the unstable table. The unstable table is a flat table with a border around it and various pegs in the middle; the player must tilt this table with a lever in order to get the ball onto a ramp at the end, and avoid falling off at a false opening in the border. The ramp leads to the tire obstacle, by hitting a button the player must jump up onto successively higher levels and finally through a hoop. After this the ball enters a blind (covered) maze, which the player must use a lever to guide the ball through by tilting. The cover for the maze is removable, which is useful for younger players. Once through the maze the ball is placed on a rocket-shaped platform which is moved, using the same dial as the crane, to put the ball into a catapult. Hitting the final button activates the catapult and fires the ball towards a bell. Once the bell rings the game is over. Also, the player can attempt to complete the course before the 60-second timer runs out.
I think Grey’s final anecdote perfectly illustrated why it’s ok for Americans to answer with the state/city. Simply saying “America” is playing dumb and not answering the question they are really asking. It would be like dressing up for halloween and when someone asks you “what are you dressed as?” and you simply say “a monster” instead of “Count Orlok from Nosferatu.”
Then from now on it would be ok for me to say I am from Quebec, and not Canada ? the culture compared to other provinces is way more different then between states.
@@marclebest Sure, I would think so. Quebec is both well known and unique enough. I think you might not have got the point I was making though. I'm not saying it's ok to say the state because they are all so different. I'm saying it's ok to say the state in some situations when they can obviously tell you are from the States (by your accent and appearance probably), and they are really just asking you where in the U.S. you are from. It requires being able to read between the lines though to know when someone is asking you for the country or the state.
@Ostrich160 The core flaw in your argument is that you completely missed the point of mine and made some silly assumptions. I never said that people should be able to recognize the intricacies of the U.S. states. I'm saying that if you can read between the lines and tell that the person already knows you are American, and is therefore asking you "where in America are you from" then you can be more specific. I said "sure" to Quebec to humor the person above, because they didn't get what I was saying and started arguing against a strawman instead. You are doing the same thing.
@Ostrich160 Grey gave a perfect example in this very podcast. He was hanging out with some Brits who could tell he was American, likely by his accent, and mannerisms. They asked where he was from and he said "America." They looked at him like he was stupid and said "yeah we know...but where in America." I'll give you another example. If you are an American in a tour group full of other Americans and the tour guide is asking where everyone is from. The first three people tell him the U.S. and then what state they are from and he seems familiar with all the states they mention. He likely knows you are all American because: A- Everyone so far in the group is American and you all came together. B- He's a flipping tour guide and he can probably tell just by your accent alone. Plus he didn't seem confused when another guy told him Montana, so it's safe to assume this guy is reasonably familiar with the U.S. I'll say it louder for the people in the back. IT REQUIRES BEING ABLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. I wouldn't recommend it for every situation. I wouldn't recommend it if you are someone who has a hard time communicating or understanding other people. But if you are a conversation savvy person and you can tell that they are really asking you "what state" by the tone of the conversation, then you would look stupid (as Grey did) to answer them with "America." You say that the polite answer is to default to saying America to not seem "America-centric," but I disagree that this is always the case. If you are very obviously from the U.S. with a southern accent and a football (American hand-egg) jersey on, and you can tell that the other person knows this (maybe they see your shirt and start talking about football) they you would be insulting their intelligence to answer the question with "America" or "The U.S." By the way the polite answer if you aren't sure isn't "America" either. That would be U.S. centric.
@Ostrich160 He can't "know" anything about them for sure. But he can make a reasonable guess based on how the conversation has gone. If they had been talking about American Football for example (Grey's favorite topic for sure) or something else that gave away the fact that Grey is probably American and that the other person is at least somewhat familiar with American things then it would be a reasonable assumption. You seem to misunderstand my position. I'm not saying that the person will automatically recognize the state/city they give as your answer. That's not the point. The point is to skip the step of "yeah I figured you were from America...but where from" part of the conversation. You can say the state then explain where it is or what it's like if they don't recognize it. If we are hanging out and I can tell you are a Brit by your accent and the fact that we were talking about English sports, and then you say "I'm from Leicester" I'm not going to be confused or insulted. Even If I hadn't heard of it I would just say "what's it near, or what's it like there?" Why is it so impolite to tell someone about a place they may or may not have heard of? They asked didn't they? What if you told them the name of a lesser known country that they didn't recognize? How is that any different? Are they going to be insulted that I would dare tell them the name of a country they hadn't heard of after they asked for it? Am I Africa Centrist If I say "Togo" instead of "Africa?" Or am I saving myself from looking like a fool when they they say "Yeah we can tell..but where in Africa?" To me "impolite" would be to assume the person is too dumb to tell I'm American after I just spent 10 minutes talking to them about American things, or to assume they can't emotionally handle me telling them about a state they haven't heard of before. If they don't recognize the place you just explain it and move on. If you aren't confident that they will recognize it you can say "Leicester, it's in England northwest of London." If I think they can tell I'm from the U.S. and they have probably heard of New York City I'll say "New York City." But if I'm from a less globally known place I might say "Connecticut. Where I live is about an hour and a half drive from New York City."
There's no problem with the film, the problem is with Brady having consumed so much content about the man that he expected this movie to essentially be "the lost Neil tapes, presented by the history channel" and that's not the case here, this is a movie for normal people that are not so invested as him.
When Grey says there isn't a significant number of people from Wyoming. And you just sit there and think, yeah that's fair as a herd of buffalo walks through your town.
I live outside my home country (Italy) in a place where foreigners are quite the norm (Marbella, Spain), so it's very common that I am asked where I'm from. I also speak other languages basically accent free (yes, I know, huge humble-brag, but in this case it really doesn't help).. When I tell people that I'm Italian, the reaction is always the same: "ooohh really???". Immediately after that comes the question "But... where about?" as if that would dissipate all stereotypes on "italian-ness". When I say "Milan" people just go (usually scratching their heads)... "you really don't have an Italian accent", as if that had anything to do with anything, It's how many conversations go in my life. I'm sooooo fed up with this formula that when people ask me where I'm from I tell them "from Milan"... not even a region/autonomous community/state, just plain and simple the city, so I am spared at least part of the routine. I shrug the next phase and start talking about something else. It gets boring to hear always the same... not my fault if I don't look nor sound like an Italian. Hail to Grey and the suggestion of NOT blubbering the first thing that comes to mind when one meets people for the first time. Also PLEASE, PLEASE, STOP using AMERICA/AMERICAN as a synonym for USA/from the States. AMERICA IS A CONTINENT, same as Europe, and... Peruvians and Canadians are Americans too South- and North- respectively. I think that this is even worse than using the State to present oneself, as a matter of humbleness.
is the question what is the problemen "where are you from?" (which opens the posibility of saying the name of the town/city/state, i still agree with brady that you have to say the name of the country right after) is not specific enough, like say "which country are you from?"
Also, people from places with recent historical conflict, tend to refer to themselves more specifically. Such as, with India, China and places within them or boarding them.
Americans say they're from their respective states, because most of the American states are as big as European countries. As a result, most Americans will interact more with their respective state in their lifetime than the federal government.
But would a Russian say which specific area of Russia they're from? Or would a Brazilian say which state they're from rather than saying they're just from Brazil? Those are both enormous countries comparable to the US (even Brazil is bigger than the contiguous United States) yet they don't do this.
I wonder if it is less a lack of humility, than more of an ignorance to international social norms. If we're generalizing, people from the US aren't raised in situations where they communicate with foreigners often if at all. It's rare for someone from the US to see someone from outside of their contiguously connected states. I remember having a classmate whose family was from California and how exotic they seemed. So I wonder if they are just ignorant to the fact that what best describes them to other Americans, isn't the best way to describe themselves to foreigners.
Grey: “There’s, like, a real, “New York rules; New Jersey drools,” rivalry between the two states.” (10:20) Grey, the day before: *makes a video about border disputes between New York and New Jersey.*
For a golden hot-drop it needs to be locked behind three locks with in a large oak chest and buried in one country, with the three keys hidden in other countries with cryptic clues embedded in multiple episodes of Hello Internet
I'm from Germany and we very often do substitute "the UK" with "England", so to me if you say you're from Scotland or you're from Wales it's basically the same as saying you're from England. But probably if you're from Northern Ireland it's more like you're from Ireland than the UK.
A few years ago I celebrated my birthday in Prague (I'm from Norway), and we went to one of those very touristy boat parties and got quite eh... intoxicated. Afterwards we were wandering around the city with a few new friends, I asked one dude where he was from, and he answered "Isle of Man." Me being me, and to his total astonishment, I answered straight back with "Wow, I've never met anyone from there before. You've got a badass flag!" I don't think he'd ever met a foreigner who knew where and what Isle of Man was before, and probably expected the usual "where's that?" conversation. Nice bloke. Never met him again. I wonder if this could be one of Brady's exceptions.
I've got infected by the negativity of the comments. I don't really know how premiers work and I'm scared of change. Good day sir. Hear you on Sunday on a long drive with grey being a few centimeters behind where the left a column emerges and with Brady being one hand long behind the warning lights button in my steeringwheel left car.
I'm completely with Brady on _First Man_ - but more so. It wasn't just boring, it was tedious, and half an hour too long. Even the scenes that by all rights should have been exciting or awe-inspiring usually left me cold. They managed to make a movie about going to the Moon a chore to watch, and I can't figure out how they did it. I was so shocked that Grey loved it, I almost fell over. He so often dislikes movies that I thought were good, so I thought surely he must have hated this one. Then again, he also had no complaints about the film adaptation of _The Martian,_ which I had _several_ problems with. I thought he had higher standards than me, but I guess they're just _different_ standards.
You have to understand that even ignoring the huge geographic differences between USA states, there are still vast cultural differences that section us. A man from the burrow of Queens, NYC, NY, USA, will experience a vast difference of culture growing up that he will feel completely alienated from a man living in Cleveland, OH, USA; despite only being a meager 480 miles (772km for the rest of the world) away.
2 thoughts on why people from the us use the state instead of the country. 1) it is polotics. People from one state don't want to be judged by the stereotype of another state. 2) people in US (including myself) don't do alot of international travel
I was apparently asleep when this “premiered” so I have no clue what it’s all about. Is it just a livechat option with the video? Or something else? What did I miss? I’ve never heard of this before
H.I. meets Objectivity. The Royal Soc. will be eating their hearts out. I'm sure they'll make you a Fellow if you promise to leave them the hotstoppper in your will.
Modern Art is a style, mostly called modernism. Art that is currently made is contemporary Art. Auctions have nothing to do with Art and everything to do with business.
im very late to this discussion, but i think the importance/notoriety of the place IS very important. i was born in and still live in a fly-over state in the usa. I would never, outside of my own country, say "Missouri" before "America," but im also very aware most people dont really know anything about Missouri. If i lived in LA, or New York, or like Chicago; i think it is reasonable to say that in an introduction. Same with Beijing, or Sydney, or London.
I'm not an american but I think on the state thing what Americans take for granted what a lot of outsiders don't realise is that America in day to day life is essentially lots of little allied countries rather than one big one.
When people ask me where I’m from, I’ll answer Québec rather than Canada, because I feel like it’s more accurate to describe me as a Quebecer than a Canadian... mostly, there’s the language difference. I will generally follow it by that Québec’s a Province of Canada.
Actually I've been on the opposite side of Grey's sauna issue. When I meet people from the UK here in America, I always ask where they're from because I have half siblings that grew up in Dover and would love to meet someone else from there. But every time our conversation goes "Where are you from?" "I'm from England" "I figured that, but I mean where in the country?" "A small city near London" "Ok, WHAT is it." "Oh Dover." I can understand the politeness of it, but sometimes its a bit frustrating because I feel like those outside of the US say it because they believe people aren't smart enough to understand. I think Brady is overthinking it. Its an act that Americans are used to doing, because there's rare opportunity where they are asked where they are from. And if the opportunity does arise, most of the time its followed up with "But where in the US?" I think it'd be more polite to answer the question than beat around the bush for formality.
The Georgia example is really telling. The US state of Georgia is, probably even in (western) europe, better known than the country. Even more so for CA, Texas, NY and a few others. Unless youre from Utah or Vermont or Wyoming its probably fine to say the state, or even city. Same goes for Cologne, Paris, St. Petersburg or Dublin, assuming its a conversation between reasonably educated adults.
Remember when Brady has gotten mad multiple times for saying the Americans rely on people knowing their state or city too much...but right of the gate he said Sarah was from Brooklyn and not the U.S... tea? Tea. (This is a joke. I'm just giving you a hassle, Brady.)
99.999% of the people I interact with are from the state of Kentucky in the US. That's why when people ask me where I'm from, I say I'm from Ohio instead of saying the US. Most of the people those from the US interact with are others from the US, which is why we usually just automatically say which state we're from. But if I were to go overseas and if someone were to ask me where I was from, I would say the US. Then, since I'm from a big city in Ohio, if they asked where in the US I'm from, I would name the city instead of the state. But if I was from a small city, I would just name the state then say close to and name the closest major city.
What is this? I was just trying to download the podcast from the hellointernet.fm website as usual, but it wasn't available yet. Now I see this is a "premiere", what does that mean? Is the podcast being recorded live, so they can't cut anything out in the postproduction?
It means that the file is uploaded on TH-cam already, but it's private until 12pm gmt. This is to allow a live audience to listen to the podcast and chat at the same time, but most people are not very happy about it since it destroys the surprise of finding it there
And since it wasn't available for download on their website yesterday, I just used the great TH-cam app NewPipe on my phone to download the audio from this video, so now I can listen to it on my drive to work. See: I really don't care, I just don't want it to be harder for me to access the podcast.
@@Seegalgalguntijak if you truly didn't care you'd have just left it until it was in your regular podcast feed and not bothered to comment about it. Personally I saw the premiere notice and my response was to look at all the complainy comments followed by going to bed.
Yeah, well, I don't have a regular podcast feed - I see when a new episode of HI is released on YT and then I download it onto my phone to listen to it. I don't listen to many other podcasts, or almost none at all.
I'm Brady from England, U.K. I'm Grey from Ireland, E.U. U.S.A. is the unifying category, but we come from states and not provinces. England is a state, as is ireland, northern ireland, wales, scotland and every country in the EU. In America, at least until after the civil war, it was the states that made their own rules with a broad, relatively hands-off governing body uniting them. We were not a bunch of arbitrary fiefdoms in an oligarchy like we are now, we were states. We ARE different. You are not French because you live in Europe and you would not associate with them on that basis alone. You are not Canadian just because you come from the commonwealth. It's more than petty self-absorbtion, some of the core concepts of the USA, such as the *states being their own thing and running themselves* , are things we 'Mericans value. If I can't say I'm from Texas or California then you can't say you're from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales. You must always say "U.K." you Anglocentric egoist. TL;DR: Americans use our states because they're states just as England is a state. We're not a lower designation than a country, USA is a higher one just as UK is a higher one. To forbid us from using our state is to forbid you from using yours.
Why is no one commenting that the diamond is off center in the nail and that the - whatever the hell that thing is - is off center on the cushion? It’s maddening!!!
Just occurred to me.... if Texas wanted to, it could have it’s own team in the World Soccer League. If the sport was super popular there, say on the level of American Foot Ball.
I think saying where you're from should depend on the size and environment of the area you're from unless there is a large cultural difference. For example, Texas and Washington have very different climates such that it makes them feel distinct. They're not culturally distinct but it feels like a different place because of the climate.
I don't like the premier because when I click on the video, it starts in the middle. It feels like I missed the first part. I know I can role it to the beginning, but it just feels like I missed something.
Well, this isn't just an American thing.... To go back the British comparison, English people will often say they're from the UK or are British, but people from the other three countries that make up the union, will often say their state before the country.
When people ask where I’m from (which is the American way of asking where you [or your parents or your grandparents] were born) I say Uruguay, even though most people don’t know where that is. Then if they ask, I’ll say “east of Argentina, south of Brazil”.
Sicilians don't want to be considered Italians not cause of Sicily being an island, but because of the history between Sicilians and Italians and the pride for each in where the are from, it's the same for the states.Also, I think there's nothing about arrogance or humility or so about stating where they are from. But, yea, we do get too little vacation time, we don't get paid well enough to travel (50% of Americans make $30k or less a year), and the fact is, America is so big that travelling between the states is about on par with how much most Europeans will travel (between other European nations) too.
Hi love the show, so my sister got married in London, the family all got out there good times, when i spoke to any local they all noticed that I was an American (probable my accent of posture) and they did not seem to care at all about what state i lived in but the city that was important. I don't know
"I hate words because they talk to you when you look at them" Grey is showing so much emotion this episode, it's awesome.
Im not happy it’s premiering but none the less I’m setting it up so my phone alarm goes off just before this goes public.
Oh hey Cody! Nice to see a fellow Tim
I'll have to come back later and see how it went. Its the usual time of day that I realize i should have gone to sleep hours ago.
Nice to see you Tim
Cody'sLab hey didnt u do a premier yourself a while back?
plz no premier
i'd rather be surprised by it
Someone is conducting an experiment.
@@Rosa-lv8yw the podcast probably already happened and is edited it just being released when the premiere starts
Jonah Bechara seems very Grey
"I hate words because they talk to you when you look at them" --CGP Grey, 2018
Isn't gold like super thermally conductive?
It ought to be called a hotbecomer.
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No! The Golden Hot Drop would only lead to violence and sadness!
The treasure all along was the friends you made along the way
No, Grey. You shouldn't built up expectations.
Exactly!
HI animation, Grey video and now a podcast, we're gonna wait until 2020 now for Grey to reappear
If only you knew
If only you knew
Thank you for giving me the fiery confusion that comes from Grey being frustrated from the daylight savings change. I could petal just a little bit faster to school.
Props to the person who made the golden hot-stopper. It is indeed something of a work of art.
"I HATE WORDS because they talk to you when you look at them"
- Grey, 2018
I recently finished graduate school in the state of Georgia, and am still there as a professor. 5 years ago, just before starting graduate school, I attended the IMC in Bulgaria. I usually said I was from America, but when the subject of what I was doing next came up, I said I was going to graduate school in Georgia. Despite my fully American accent (the bulk of people there were European), I did several times have to specify that it was the U.S. state and not the country.
Premieres are currently majorly bugged, they are not appearing in recommended videos after they are released at all.
Also they suck because they bury your content in my sub feed and I despise them, please don't use them.
I have seen a video that "premiered" before in my recommended videos - but it didn't show up on the subscriptions page, nor did I get a notification of it. But yeah, I usually just dl the podcast from the website to listen to it on my phone, and use the youtube video release as a reminder - now I have to remember doing that by myself.
What is a premier anyway? This is the first time I have seen it
oh man when he said the difference between england and wales was laughable it got me seething ill be honest
As a Welsh person I run into this all the time! Usually people do know where/what Wales is, but I always either lead with or add 'UK' or 'Britain'. Even if they do get offended that I'm assuming they won't know where Wales is, it saves people from asking and saves them from assuming or just moving on if they've never heard of it. I used to live in Austria and they always got it mixed up with Wels near Linz haha.
Audience from Hong Kong send his gratitude for to Dr. Brady granting an exception
+1
I listen once in a while, but like every time Grey is like "oh I don't need to explain this inside joke. Nobody who is listening doesn't know".
my god that evil laugh by CGP grey.... I keep seeing that evil robot animated version of him every time he laughs like that
it brings me so much joy
Saruman Grey >>> Robot Grey.
I think the Banksy point was more in the camp of countering/commenting on the gentrification and commodification of art as tools and toys for systemic benefactors and the inevitable defanging of the initial artistic intent and expression, that in Banksy's case often show counter cultural and anti-elite sentiments, through the process of commodification. At least more than a simple "ops all gone, art is fleeting"-thing.
I love how Brady said that Sara lived in Brooklyn without mentioning America. Didn't he spend the entirity of last episode complaining about this?
Shokan
To be fair if you told any American that you were from Rome or Paris or London, they'd know just what you were talking about. Brooklyn isn't quite the same as "Arkansas."
I like how Grey immediately catches him on it.
"Ah freaking soccer always screwing me up with where do people know where places are from." CGP Grey :'D
Oh no, this premiere thing is getting really annoying
So far I always just ignored it but with HI I can't...
A friend went to Germany. When asked where he was from, and he answered, "the US." The German said, "Yes, but where in the US?" Just like Grey said, my friend was treated like an idiot. Like of course, we know you're from the US, but where specifically.
It depends WHO youre talking to and if it matters.
In Brady's original situation talking to a shaman... does it really matter?
If you talk to some mainland chinese person, they do not know your states, dont even bother.
And I do think Brady is being hypocritical. Just say UK. Most people, statistically, think that England IS the UK anyway.
It's exactly the same here in Scotland we know were you are from from 10 miles away and I only ask in case you are a Canadian without a noticeable accent.
Technocracy: Not ruling with an iron fist, but ruling with a silicon wafer.
I like the idea, being able to interact with a live chat for the first time is great, but I'd rather have a shorter wait time, since like many I'd rather have the surprise of finding it and being surprised or receiving a notification from my podcast app. I'm not sure how you could get that to work, but now I'm going to be anticipating this for the whole day... Can't wait!
22:33 For some reason, the way Grey said Tokyo gave me the reflexive urge to go "woaaaaaaaaaaaah!" for a solid 30 seconds...
Mainly not a fan of premiere because Ive been trying to get to bed and now Im weighing staying up 100 minutes later to start listening to this
Its 3:24am and I have insomnia
Also HI is kinda an exception but I also hate premiere cuz it takes up real estate of my sibscription feed. its always a bummer to click on a good looking video and have it end up beig a premier for 3 hours later
Screwball Scramble (also known as "Snafu: The Maze Game That Runs You Ragged", "Run Yourself Ragged" and "Tricky Golf") is a toy made by TOMY that involves guiding a 13 millimeter diameter chrome steel ball bearing around an obstacle course. A player guides the ball by using various buttons, dials and levers that affect parts of the course.
The first part of the course is the tilting walkway; by pressing a button the player must tilt the parts of the walkway in order to rock the ball across and place it on the platform at the end.
By turning a dial the player must pick the ball up from the platform using the magnetic crane and deposit it on the parallel bars.
The parallel bars are two metal rods on which the ball sits, by moving these rods apart with a lever the ball can be made to roll along the rods. If the rods are opened too far, however, the ball will fall through. If successful, the ball will roll off the end of the rods and onto the unstable table.
The unstable table is a flat table with a border around it and various pegs in the middle; the player must tilt this table with a lever in order to get the ball onto a ramp at the end, and avoid falling off at a false opening in the border.
The ramp leads to the tire obstacle, by hitting a button the player must jump up onto successively higher levels and finally through a hoop.
After this the ball enters a blind (covered) maze, which the player must use a lever to guide the ball through by tilting. The cover for the maze is removable, which is useful for younger players.
Once through the maze the ball is placed on a rocket-shaped platform which is moved, using the same dial as the crane, to put the ball into a catapult.
Hitting the final button activates the catapult and fires the ball towards a bell. Once the bell rings the game is over.
Also, the player can attempt to complete the course before the 60-second timer runs out.
I think Grey’s final anecdote perfectly illustrated why it’s ok for Americans to answer with the state/city. Simply saying “America” is playing dumb and not answering the question they are really asking. It would be like dressing up for halloween and when someone asks you “what are you dressed as?” and you simply say “a monster” instead of “Count Orlok from Nosferatu.”
Then from now on it would be ok for me to say I am from Quebec, and not Canada ? the culture compared to other provinces is way more different then between states.
@@marclebest Sure, I would think so. Quebec is both well known and unique enough. I think you might not have got the point I was making though. I'm not saying it's ok to say the state because they are all so different. I'm saying it's ok to say the state in some situations when they can obviously tell you are from the States (by your accent and appearance probably), and they are really just asking you where in the U.S. you are from. It requires being able to read between the lines though to know when someone is asking you for the country or the state.
@Ostrich160 The core flaw in your argument is that you completely missed the point of mine and made some silly assumptions. I never said that people should be able to recognize the intricacies of the U.S. states. I'm saying that if you can read between the lines and tell that the person already knows you are American, and is therefore asking you "where in America are you from" then you can be more specific. I said "sure" to Quebec to humor the person above, because they didn't get what I was saying and started arguing against a strawman instead. You are doing the same thing.
@Ostrich160 Grey gave a perfect example in this very podcast. He was hanging out with some Brits who could tell he was American, likely by his accent, and mannerisms. They asked where he was from and he said "America." They looked at him like he was stupid and said "yeah we know...but where in America."
I'll give you another example. If you are an American in a tour group full of other Americans and the tour guide is asking where everyone is from. The first three people tell him the U.S. and then what state they are from and he seems familiar with all the states they mention. He likely knows you are all American because: A- Everyone so far in the group is American and you all came together. B- He's a flipping tour guide and he can probably tell just by your accent alone. Plus he didn't seem confused when another guy told him Montana, so it's safe to assume this guy is reasonably familiar with the U.S.
I'll say it louder for the people in the back. IT REQUIRES BEING ABLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. I wouldn't recommend it for every situation. I wouldn't recommend it if you are someone who has a hard time communicating or understanding other people. But if you are a conversation savvy person and you can tell that they are really asking you "what state" by the tone of the conversation, then you would look stupid (as Grey did) to answer them with "America."
You say that the polite answer is to default to saying America to not seem "America-centric," but I disagree that this is always the case. If you are very obviously from the U.S. with a southern accent and a football (American hand-egg) jersey on, and you can tell that the other person knows this (maybe they see your shirt and start talking about football) they you would be insulting their intelligence to answer the question with "America" or "The U.S." By the way the polite answer if you aren't sure isn't "America" either. That would be U.S. centric.
@Ostrich160 He can't "know" anything about them for sure. But he can make a reasonable guess based on how the conversation has gone. If they had been talking about American Football for example (Grey's favorite topic for sure) or something else that gave away the fact that Grey is probably American and that the other person is at least somewhat familiar with American things then it would be a reasonable assumption.
You seem to misunderstand my position. I'm not saying that the person will automatically recognize the state/city they give as your answer. That's not the point. The point is to skip the step of "yeah I figured you were from America...but where from" part of the conversation. You can say the state then explain where it is or what it's like if they don't recognize it. If we are hanging out and I can tell you are a Brit by your accent and the fact that we were talking about English sports, and then you say "I'm from Leicester" I'm not going to be confused or insulted. Even If I hadn't heard of it I would just say "what's it near, or what's it like there?"
Why is it so impolite to tell someone about a place they may or may not have heard of? They asked didn't they? What if you told them the name of a lesser known country that they didn't recognize? How is that any different? Are they going to be insulted that I would dare tell them the name of a country they hadn't heard of after they asked for it? Am I Africa Centrist If I say "Togo" instead of "Africa?" Or am I saving myself from looking like a fool when they they say "Yeah we can tell..but where in Africa?" To me "impolite" would be to assume the person is too dumb to tell I'm American after I just spent 10 minutes talking to them about American things, or to assume they can't emotionally handle me telling them about a state they haven't heard of before.
If they don't recognize the place you just explain it and move on. If you aren't confident that they will recognize it you can say "Leicester, it's in England northwest of London." If I think they can tell I'm from the U.S. and they have probably heard of New York City I'll say "New York City." But if I'm from a less globally known place I might say "Connecticut. Where I live is about an hour and a half drive from New York City."
I feel like it is a premiere of the hotstopper, which is so funny. It is glorious enough to deserve a premiere.
Oh my, i clutched my pearls at 32:28, i thought Brady didn’t curse!
There's no problem with the film, the problem is with Brady having consumed so much content about the man that he expected this movie to essentially be "the lost Neil tapes, presented by the history channel" and that's not the case here, this is a movie for normal people that are not so invested as him.
When Grey says there isn't a significant number of people from Wyoming. And you just sit there and think, yeah that's fair as a herd of buffalo walks through your town.
I live outside my home country (Italy) in a place where foreigners are quite the norm (Marbella, Spain), so it's very common that I am asked where I'm from. I also speak other languages basically accent free (yes, I know, huge humble-brag, but in this case it really doesn't help)..
When I tell people that I'm Italian, the reaction is always the same: "ooohh really???". Immediately after that comes the question "But... where about?" as if that would dissipate all stereotypes on "italian-ness". When I say "Milan" people just go (usually scratching their heads)... "you really don't have an Italian accent", as if that had anything to do with anything, It's how many conversations go in my life.
I'm sooooo fed up with this formula that when people ask me where I'm from I tell them "from Milan"... not even a region/autonomous community/state, just plain and simple the city, so I am spared at least part of the routine. I shrug the next phase and start talking about something else.
It gets boring to hear always the same... not my fault if I don't look nor sound like an Italian.
Hail to Grey and the suggestion of NOT blubbering the first thing that comes to mind when one meets people for the first time.
Also PLEASE, PLEASE, STOP using AMERICA/AMERICAN as a synonym for USA/from the States. AMERICA IS A CONTINENT, same as Europe, and... Peruvians and Canadians are Americans too South- and North- respectively.
I think that this is even worse than using the State to present oneself, as a matter of humbleness.
when i see a video on my feed, i want to watch it then. NOT in a weeks time
Grey cant help but mess with new tech. Lets see what he says the next show when he has data. Could work?
No premieres
Wont it be funto listen and discuss together? Or worth the experiment at the very least
is the question what is the problemen "where are you from?" (which opens the posibility of saying the name of the town/city/state, i still agree with brady that you have to say the name of the country right after) is not specific enough, like say "which country are you from?"
20:00
What about Puerto Rico?
Also, people from places with recent historical conflict, tend to refer to themselves more specifically. Such as, with India, China and places within them or boarding them.
Americans say they're from their respective states, because most of the American states are as big as European countries. As a result, most Americans will interact more with their respective state in their lifetime than the federal government.
But would a Russian say which specific area of Russia they're from? Or would a Brazilian say which state they're from rather than saying they're just from Brazil? Those are both enormous countries comparable to the US (even Brazil is bigger than the contiguous United States) yet they don't do this.
I like to think us Americans think of our states as individual countries within a bigger one.
I wonder if it is less a lack of humility, than more of an ignorance to international social norms. If we're generalizing, people from the US aren't raised in situations where they communicate with foreigners often if at all. It's rare for someone from the US to see someone from outside of their contiguously connected states. I remember having a classmate whose family was from California and how exotic they seemed. So I wonder if they are just ignorant to the fact that what best describes them to other Americans, isn't the best way to describe themselves to foreigners.
Grey: “There’s, like, a real, “New York rules; New Jersey drools,” rivalry between the two states.” (10:20)
Grey, the day before: *makes a video about border disputes between New York and New Jersey.*
It'd be interesting to find out how the premier goes. Strange parts put up a video talking through how bad his went.
The first podcast that i've watched in 1080p
For a golden hot-drop it needs to be locked behind three locks with in a large oak chest and buried in one country, with the three keys hidden in other countries with cryptic clues embedded in multiple episodes of Hello Internet
I'm from Germany and we very often do substitute "the UK" with "England", so to me if you say you're from Scotland or you're from Wales it's basically the same as saying you're from England. But probably if you're from Northern Ireland it's more like you're from Ireland than the UK.
A few years ago I celebrated my birthday in Prague (I'm from Norway), and we went to one of those very touristy boat parties and got quite eh... intoxicated. Afterwards we were wandering around the city with a few new friends, I asked one dude where he was from, and he answered "Isle of Man." Me being me, and to his total astonishment, I answered straight back with "Wow, I've never met anyone from there before. You've got a badass flag!" I don't think he'd ever met a foreigner who knew where and what Isle of Man was before, and probably expected the usual "where's that?" conversation. Nice bloke. Never met him again. I wonder if this could be one of Brady's exceptions.
Why do you not post new episodes on Google Play? Im still waiting on Episode 111.
Is there an app that I can watch these podcasts on other than youtube and itunes?
so, we are really not saying that the diamond is not centered in the middle of the nail?
This reminds me of the thing I’ve always heard that if you google The Anarchist’s Cookbook, the FBI will be alerted
I've got infected by the negativity of the comments. I don't really know how premiers work and I'm scared of change.
Good day sir. Hear you on Sunday on a long drive with grey being a few centimeters behind where the left a column emerges and with Brady being one hand long behind the warning lights button in my steeringwheel left car.
I'm completely with Brady on _First Man_ - but more so. It wasn't just boring, it was tedious, and half an hour too long. Even the scenes that by all rights should have been exciting or awe-inspiring usually left me cold. They managed to make a movie about going to the Moon a chore to watch, and I can't figure out how they did it. I was so shocked that Grey loved it, I almost fell over. He so often dislikes movies that I thought were good, so I thought surely he must have hated this one. Then again, he also had no complaints about the film adaptation of _The Martian,_ which I had _several_ problems with. I thought he had higher standards than me, but I guess they're just _different_ standards.
You have to understand that even ignoring the huge geographic differences between USA states, there are still vast cultural differences that section us. A man from the burrow of Queens, NYC, NY, USA, will experience a vast difference of culture growing up that he will feel completely alienated from a man living in Cleveland, OH, USA; despite only being a meager 480 miles (772km for the rest of the world) away.
2 thoughts on why people from the us use the state instead of the country. 1) it is polotics. People from one state don't want to be judged by the stereotype of another state. 2) people in US (including myself) don't do alot of international travel
I'm actually a first timer to the hello internet. This was a beautiful introduction
I was apparently asleep when this “premiered” so I have no clue what it’s all about. Is it just a livechat option with the video? Or something else? What did I miss? I’ve never heard of this before
Accicebtally backed out and skipped ahead to where it is live. pretty eh on YT premeire as podcast platform
H.I. meets Objectivity. The Royal Soc. will be eating their hearts out. I'm sure they'll make you a Fellow if you promise to leave them the hotstoppper in your will.
Modern Art is a style, mostly called modernism. Art that is currently made is contemporary Art.
Auctions have nothing to do with Art and everything to do with business.
im very late to this discussion, but i think the importance/notoriety of the place IS very important. i was born in and still live in a fly-over state in the usa. I would never, outside of my own country, say "Missouri" before "America," but im also very aware most people dont really know anything about Missouri. If i lived in LA, or New York, or like Chicago; i think it is reasonable to say that in an introduction. Same with Beijing, or Sydney, or London.
Premiere feature works even better on podcasts where people have more time to sit down and discuss with other people
Also premiering at 23:00 in Australia, so I'm going to bed. Sad times.
Well it was 7am on the USA east coast and 4am on the west coast so I doubt many American Tims we’re participating either 🤷🏽♀️
I'm not an american but I think on the state thing what Americans take for granted what a lot of outsiders don't realise is that America in day to day life is essentially lots of little allied countries rather than one big one.
I'm in Georgia, the country not the state (21:20)... CGP Grey the Penguin, sadly didn't survive the trip to Georgia :(
When people ask me where I’m from, I’ll answer Québec rather than Canada, because I feel like it’s more accurate to describe me as a Quebecer than a Canadian... mostly, there’s the language difference. I will generally follow it by that Québec’s a Province of Canada.
I have pretty neutral feelings about the premier feature
Actually I've been on the opposite side of Grey's sauna issue. When I meet people from the UK here in America, I always ask where they're from because I have half siblings that grew up in Dover and would love to meet someone else from there. But every time our conversation goes "Where are you from?" "I'm from England" "I figured that, but I mean where in the country?" "A small city near London" "Ok, WHAT is it." "Oh Dover." I can understand the politeness of it, but sometimes its a bit frustrating because I feel like those outside of the US say it because they believe people aren't smart enough to understand.
I think Brady is overthinking it. Its an act that Americans are used to doing, because there's rare opportunity where they are asked where they are from. And if the opportunity does arise, most of the time its followed up with "But where in the US?" I think it'd be more polite to answer the question than beat around the bush for formality.
The Georgia example is really telling. The US state of Georgia is, probably even in (western) europe, better known than the country. Even more so for CA, Texas, NY and a few others. Unless youre from Utah or Vermont or Wyoming its probably fine to say the state, or even city. Same goes for Cologne, Paris, St. Petersburg or Dublin, assuming its a conversation between reasonably educated adults.
I can't imagine going internationally and saying "Hi, I'm from British Columbia"
Along with the medal of Honor 🏅 now you can Knight Tims with this golden scepter!
Whats with the HI Flag in space (what episode)?
37:03 - I am said person from the future. But I’m not called Tim.
Remember when Brady has gotten mad multiple times for saying the Americans rely on people knowing their state or city too much...but right of the gate he said Sarah was from Brooklyn and not the U.S... tea? Tea. (This is a joke. I'm just giving you a hassle, Brady.)
99.999% of the people I interact with are from the state of Kentucky in the US. That's why when people ask me where I'm from, I say I'm from Ohio instead of saying the US. Most of the people those from the US interact with are others from the US, which is why we usually just automatically say which state we're from. But if I were to go overseas and if someone were to ask me where I was from, I would say the US. Then, since I'm from a big city in Ohio, if they asked where in the US I'm from, I would name the city instead of the state. But if I was from a small city, I would just name the state then say close to and name the closest major city.
As a Texan, I am always going to identify as a Texan. People internationally always immediately understand and respond positively to Texas.
proudly holding my 3 hot stoppers
On the identity/US state thing
I’ve observed that majority of the Canadian (where I’m from) identity is “not American”
Any other Android users not getting the new episode showing up in their podcast player?
What is this? I was just trying to download the podcast from the hellointernet.fm website as usual, but it wasn't available yet. Now I see this is a "premiere", what does that mean? Is the podcast being recorded live, so they can't cut anything out in the postproduction?
It means that the file is uploaded on TH-cam already, but it's private until 12pm gmt. This is to allow a live audience to listen to the podcast and chat at the same time, but most people are not very happy about it since it destroys the surprise of finding it there
You had about two hours to google search "youtube premiere" if you really cared about what was going on.
And since it wasn't available for download on their website yesterday, I just used the great TH-cam app NewPipe on my phone to download the audio from this video, so now I can listen to it on my drive to work. See: I really don't care, I just don't want it to be harder for me to access the podcast.
@@Seegalgalguntijak if you truly didn't care you'd have just left it until it was in your regular podcast feed and not bothered to comment about it. Personally I saw the premiere notice and my response was to look at all the complainy comments followed by going to bed.
Yeah, well, I don't have a regular podcast feed - I see when a new episode of HI is released on YT and then I download it onto my phone to listen to it. I don't listen to many other podcasts, or almost none at all.
I'm from Hong Kong. (but I live in London now) yes it's not easy to explain that Hong Kong is not just China.
"Hi, I'm Brady. I'm from the Commonwealth of Nations."
I'm Brady from England, U.K.
I'm Grey from Ireland, E.U.
U.S.A. is the unifying category, but we come from states and not provinces. England is a state, as is ireland, northern ireland, wales, scotland and every country in the EU. In America, at least until after the civil war, it was the states that made their own rules with a broad, relatively hands-off governing body uniting them. We were not a bunch of arbitrary fiefdoms in an oligarchy like we are now, we were states. We ARE different. You are not French because you live in Europe and you would not associate with them on that basis alone. You are not Canadian just because you come from the commonwealth.
It's more than petty self-absorbtion, some of the core concepts of the USA, such as the *states being their own thing and running themselves* , are things we 'Mericans value.
If I can't say I'm from Texas or California then you can't say you're from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales. You must always say "U.K." you Anglocentric egoist.
TL;DR:
Americans use our states because they're states just as England is a state. We're not a lower designation than a country, USA is a higher one just as UK is a higher one. To forbid us from using our state is to forbid you from using yours.
10:20 OH IT’S ON
my goodness
we're making a museum right?
Why is no one commenting that the diamond is off center in the nail and that the - whatever the hell that thing is - is off center on the cushion? It’s maddening!!!
Just occurred to me.... if Texas wanted to, it could have it’s own team in the World Soccer League. If the sport was super popular there, say on the level of American Foot Ball.
I think saying where you're from should depend on the size and environment of the area you're from unless there is a large cultural difference. For example, Texas and Washington have very different climates such that it makes them feel distinct. They're not culturally distinct but it feels like a different place because of the climate.
haven't even seen the premiere announcement before it happened :/
Also, it's not on the rss feed and not posted to r/cgpgrey, what's up with that?
where are the show notes and why is this the first place that the podcast came out Q_Q
when I'm trying to leave youtube.2
I don't like the premier because when I click on the video, it starts in the middle. It feels like I missed the first part. I know I can role it to the beginning, but it just feels like I missed something.
I think it's a language thing aswell. In the UK people can hear the accent whereas other non-english speaking countries cannot hear the accent.
Well, this isn't just an American thing.... To go back the British comparison, English people will often say they're from the UK or are British, but people from the other three countries that make up the union, will often say their state before the country.
When people ask where I’m from (which is the American way of asking where you [or your parents or your grandparents] were born) I say Uruguay, even though most people don’t know where that is. Then if they ask, I’ll say “east of Argentina, south of Brazil”.
Also, when people ask me where in the USA I’m from, I tell people either “near NYC” or “in New Jersey across the river from NYC”.
Someone asks where I'm from I don't even say Texas anymore, I say Houston. I haven't yet had problems with anyone not knowing where I mean.
Sicilians don't want to be considered Italians not cause of Sicily being an island, but because of the history between Sicilians and Italians and the pride for each in where the are from, it's the same for the states.Also, I think there's nothing about arrogance or humility or so about stating where they are from.
But, yea, we do get too little vacation time, we don't get paid well enough to travel (50% of Americans make $30k or less a year), and the fact is, America is so big that travelling between the states is about on par with how much most Europeans will travel (between other European nations) too.
does grey sound different or is it youtube
Hi love the show, so my sister got married in London, the family all got out there good times, when i spoke to any local they all noticed that I was an American (probable my accent of posture) and they did not seem to care at all about what state i lived in but the city that was important. I don't know