558 RSW WILL THIS DOVE FLY AGAIN? 1980's Gibson Dove Guitar Repair - Part 1

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  • A really big job if I had all the time in the world to do it. However, it came in on Thursday evening and needed to be finished by Monday Afternoon. No problem, right?
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  • @bkefrmr
    @bkefrmr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is my guitar! Very pleased with the outcome. Plays and sounds so good. Guitar was originally owned by Everet Rice, (no relation to Tony). He played with the Rice Family Band in the 50's and 60's. His brother and sister were singers and they made it to the Opry stage. Everet played with many, many country bands through the 80's and 90's and made it to the Wisconsin String Museum Hall of Fame (which doesn't even exist any more). His brother Bobby G. Rice had a gold record with "You Lay so Easy on My Mind". Not all that cool, but still cool to know some history of the instrument. If you have a chance to visit Jerry and Emeri at the farm, do so. Great people who've inspired me to start my own channel fixing bikes!

  • @MC-073
    @MC-073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Jerry, love the statement: "Everybody's got an opinion but because I'm doing the work, mine's the only one that counts!" You MUST use this for your next Rosa String Works t-shirt slogan. 👍

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol, I agree with that. He did mention the second time, and the customer!

  • @eddyj3862
    @eddyj3862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gerry, i do not think you realise how good you are at what you do my friend!!!!!! Excellent as always!!!!

  • @bendoehler7951
    @bendoehler7951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm deployed- and these videos make it go by faster. Thank you!

  • @mitchmatthews6713
    @mitchmatthews6713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yeah, I was never a fan of Gibson acoustics made after they moved off of Kalamazoo. Stay safe, Jerry.

  • @mikaelforss5725
    @mikaelforss5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerry its' Heli-Coil and it's a fantastic thread insert used in the correct way. Use em in my work and private for over 35 years.

  • @leelossi1257
    @leelossi1257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jerry,,,,what an awesome job. You have the patience of Job!

  • @nicolen.9642
    @nicolen.9642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your guitar repair videos. Very interesting and meticulous. The thrill to learn! Thank you Jerry 🎶🎶🎶

  • @Gladtobemom
    @Gladtobemom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's Helicoil. I've installed hundreds of them into racks made of aircraft aluminum. If the tapped threads they feed into are even the least bit wrong . . . bad. If the tang is broken off too short or without the right angle . . . bad. They're not meant for "adjustment" type situations, they're meant to protect the aluminum from weight bearing steel bolts causing the threads to deform.
    For an adjustment screw, I'd drill it out and put in a plug with a T bar to keep it from turning, then drill and tap it to match the adjustment screw.
    (I'm a retired engineer, from Jet Propulsion Laboratory).

  • @johnjones-bv5df
    @johnjones-bv5df 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Absolutely awesome. You have a lot of internet experts telling you the right way to do everything. I think everyone doing that needs to share a link to video showing them in all their perfection and glory with us so we can see their brilliance in action. And like you we should be able to see their faces names, addresses and contact information.

  • @bluesingmusic3443
    @bluesingmusic3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly hate it when these videos end. But then I think, "Well that means there will be another part." So it's bitter sweet. Great job Jerry. Seeing this video was posted, was a treat.

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jerry, when I need very fine adjustment for a router base or saw sled w/o a fine adjuster, I add a layer or two of tape to the base, the guide rails, or both. Much easier than.fighting with a spring loaded plunge base etc

  • @banjomanToddTaylor
    @banjomanToddTaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Jerry great work.

  • @malgibbs5168
    @malgibbs5168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    an artist at work well done

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful guitar. Thank you for sharing

  • @jthonn
    @jthonn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on those inlays. Every bridge I see you make you always do a fabulous job. You have done that once or twice before, lol!

  • @richardingraham6353
    @richardingraham6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Free handing those pieces is as hard as it gets . Great job 👍

  • @andrewsmith1520
    @andrewsmith1520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have those same black and blue Kolbalt scissors. Those are heavy duty.

  • @jefferp
    @jefferp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Heli-Coil. Sometimes the magic works, sometimes it doesn’t.

  • @TgWags69
    @TgWags69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Helix like DNA. Coil as in coil spring.....heli-coil.....They have to be staked in properly so they don't back out. A good red or green loctight on the coil would help then chase with a tap for the bolt size. Never seize the bolt and you shouldn't have any trouble......but, I agree, If possible, a larger bolt tapped in virgin metal is best.

  • @BigDwww
    @BigDwww 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That bridge looks like it originally may have had an ABR1 fitted , i remember seeing some acoustics with those fitted

  • @rzh3443
    @rzh3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry , wow, you need a ghost writer to write a book on your repair techniques ! My Hummingbird had a damaged bridge plate. The local repair guy ( like you , he builds and repairs and is Martin certified) said unintentional damage could occur to get the plate off. He said the best alternative , that he had good experience with, was to fill the pin holes with epoxy and then re drill them. That repair has held up for years but I am very careful to be sure I have the strings locked up against the plate when restringing. My guess is that this is a Nashville acoustic after they moved from MI. The produce from there seems to have had some issues- new work force , etc.

  • @jipes
    @jipes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful replacement bridge !

  • @jojoberrypie6580
    @jojoberrypie6580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't afford one. shoot, I guess it worked out. I got a harmony through the mail, and my brother borrowed it and that was that. next was a sigma that I paid off 20 bucks a month, and then there was the fender prelude that got smashed by a dumb guy. I saw the hummingbird ukulele, and it make me feel the same as when I wanted a dove. dang. I learn a lot though from your video's. Maybe one day I will find a fallen dove.

  • @HellcatCustoms
    @HellcatCustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang it, Jerry. You ended the video too soon 😂 Excellent work on transplanting the pearl doves. Those Doves are my favorite Gibson Acoustics (maybe not models from the 80s). They look so cool 👍

  • @gillamb8669
    @gillamb8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful work Jerry 👍🤘

  • @michaels.8663
    @michaels.8663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Master!

  • @jeffgrier8488
    @jeffgrier8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice job on the bridge Jerry!

  • @ranjrog
    @ranjrog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video! The sign of a master is not only the high quality of the work but the efficiency in which it is done. You certainly exemplify this!!

  • @khoahoanh930
    @khoahoanh930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome, can't wait to see p2

  • @anthonywilson4873
    @anthonywilson4873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerry could you route down or plane down a bridge. Basically take it down to the level. Maybe take the middle of the bridge out leaving only the edge and then work out to the edge?

  • @johngiarritta4005
    @johngiarritta4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerry, nice work. Steady great eye..

  • @Gunslinger320
    @Gunslinger320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paper templates for placing inlays works wonders

  • @CHRISBUCKLANDjohn
    @CHRISBUCKLANDjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work mate.

  • @eddyj3862
    @eddyj3862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plate mate Jerry!!!!

  • @tinman8518
    @tinman8518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jerry, could the insert in the bridge be where a tune-a-matic bridge was at one time? I had a Dove and that was the case with mine. Had an insert much like that one.

  • @Mandolin1944
    @Mandolin1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry, I'm going got make a guess here. It is possible that Gibson did not put that ebony insert in the bridge. That guitar could have been originally issued with the Gibson's patented "adjustable bridge" (that metal and ceramic contraption) that they used for so many years. Lot of people did not like them and tried to fix them in various ways -- including pulling out the metal and ceramic making a rosewood or ebony (as the case might be) insert in its place? So perhaps a previous owner -- not Gibson is the "culprit"? 😀

  • @amphetamineblue4172
    @amphetamineblue4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry, Helicoils do work really well ( I use them a lot ) but they aren't really designed for bolts that are going to be adjusted a lot. They are more suitable for things you bolt down and leave and don't really need to take off again often

    • @RosaStringWorks
      @RosaStringWorks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I understand. But by the very nature of a bold it's supposed to be able to be undone II have not had good luck with Healy coils at all . I do think they would work for a one time application but how often is that the case? Not? Not very often with me

    • @amphetamineblue4172
      @amphetamineblue4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RosaStringWorks I use them on motorcycles for things like engine covers where they may need to be taken off a few times in the bikes life ( or sometimes never ), and they are fine for that. They also seem to work better in holes with a bottom rather than where a bolt is going to pass all the way through it. It is definitely better to drill out the old thread, tap a new one and use a larger size bolt where its possible though

  • @phillipbingham487
    @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you probably know that ebony is a type or persimmon .. and persimmon trees grow throughout the south.. i am wondering what the heartwood of those local persimmon trees looks like.. has anyone ever tried to use the heartwood of one of those trees to make guitar/violin parts?

  • @darrellblanchard2362
    @darrellblanchard2362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It ain't easy being you.

  • @markdavich5829
    @markdavich5829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time Sert might be a better option to fix that bolt hole.

  • @richardingraham6353
    @richardingraham6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too get the .oo5 you needed just put a couple pieces of tape on top of the world pieces the router sits on .😁

  • @Larry-Art179
    @Larry-Art179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😀😀

  • @PLINKER
    @PLINKER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helicoils they make much better inserts now with pound down pieces that never allow the insert to move with out drilling it out.

  • @chucktripp5722
    @chucktripp5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The helicore is supposed to be installed with thread locker...lol

  • @markmercer1857
    @markmercer1857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    back in the aiircraftmanufacturer
    9

  • @bjm2762
    @bjm2762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew them as heli coils

  • @matthewjones5450
    @matthewjones5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did you use the loctite on that helicoil i gave used them on bigblock chevy main caps drag race engines torqued to 120 ftpounds and never had one fail

  • @TKevinBlanc
    @TKevinBlanc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry, I'm sure there's a reason NOT to do this, but when I watch luthiers remove bridges, I always wonder why they don't use a router and then just scrape off the remnants. Because you need the bridge as a template for a new one?

    • @zapa1pnt
      @zapa1pnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As you said, a template.
      Unless you are making a new one, of a completely different
      outline and/or large enough to cover the original placement,
      the template Really helps. Also, getting the peg holes properly
      located is another issue.

  • @PLINKER
    @PLINKER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Jerry, Where did you get your nice sound hole clamps? I need some good one like that. Thanks in advance. I watch you a lot! Tom

  • @markmercer1857
    @markmercer1857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helicoil... (just a brand name)

  • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
    @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It doesn't bring peace to the luthier to build a guitar that way

  • @family4742
    @family4742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the bridge plate would come off if you dampen it with a wet sponge repeatedly before going in with heat

    • @RosaStringWorks
      @RosaStringWorks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Possibly but it would also probably bust the thin spruce top

  • @BobPerrone
    @BobPerrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That owner obviously has no idea how to maintain that instrument

  • @phillipbingham487
    @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey where is part 2 of can this dove fly again?

    • @zapa1pnt
      @zapa1pnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He posted this yesterday.
      Patience, Grasshopper.

    • @phillipbingham487
      @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hoppity hop

    • @phillipbingham487
      @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zapa1pnt no rush...i am only wondering if i missed something....the scope is on me. Not you guys LOL....

    • @phillipbingham487
      @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zapa1pnt is this Caleb?

    • @phillipbingham487
      @phillipbingham487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it is Caleb...hey i really love Gerry's presentations but i also enjoy yours too..i liked that old Truetone electric..we had a Western Auto here in town when i was a kid and i remember all the guitars..i started learning on a Truetone when i was 10 years old. It was my cousin's guitar but he loaned it to me .i remember it had a big wide neck and a metal tailpiece...and the action was ridiculously high...my other cousin laughed when he played it and called it a bow and arrow

  • @davestambaugh7282
    @davestambaugh7282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can tell Jerry was never a machinist. Using a drill chuck to hold any side cutting tool is a fundamental no no. That is why they give you collets with the Dremmel.

    • @RosaStringWorks
      @RosaStringWorks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's more than one way to skin a cat. Did you notice that it actually worked?

    • @davestambaugh7282
      @davestambaugh7282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was in danger of coming out in any second. I have even seen them loosen up on you in other episodes.

    • @Mandolin1944
      @Mandolin1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davestambaugh7282 You should start your You Tube channel soon Dave! 😄