My comment got deleted on a very popular channel for saying this same thing. They care more about selling plugins and courses than telling green ppl it's the actual recording process that's key. Overlooking the fundamentals.
We agree 100%! If you’re not starting with a great source, it’s almost impossible to get a great mix. That said - it’s very possible to poorly mix a great performance. It’s important to be sharp at every stage of the process if you want something that truly stands out. It starts with a great song, then a great performance, great tracking, great editing, then you get to the step we cover here - mixing.
@therearenoruleshere Sorry to hear about that other company doing that to you! Here at Nuro Audio - we're all about helping people get the best possible recordings. For anyone curious to learn more about the fundamentals - here's a video we made covering lots of editing + tracking tips for getting the best results with any mic! th-cam.com/video/aikp5Ir2x0g/w-d-xo.html
I love your content. Straight to the point and full of knowledge. I absolutely love the xvox pro. My forever vocal chain. For someone that’s still learning how to mix. It makes my passion that much smoother.
wow my mix sounds hella better and you also turned me onto Xvox i had no idea this plugin existed but its so satisfying to use because of its simplicity thank you wizard Nuro
Such a stark difference and mixed so well really fast! My only question is if this would be the normal way? Don't most vocal tracks use a 'Send' for the delay/reverb? Would this be a "better" way to do it?
Trying to build my Home studio ( small size bedroom ) {120-132 sq ft} as a beginner …. ( Panels ) what do you guys recommend amount of Acoustic treatment Placement for recording & mixing ( Absorbtion ) on the walls & windows visually & ideally ?? And Diffusers & Bass traps need more details on if Its a necessity and he many Any good material type suggestions & links are very much appreciated ✅💯 ( I’m an Artist as well ) 🙏🏾 did some research just wanted more deep dive explanations 💯💯
I never really thought about it in an era aspect, but it's true. Although I never dove in the pro tools run it definitely could of happen BUT I ran across something else at the time...got familiar with it...and grew with it. So it make sense that the youngins would steer towards what's more convenient price and availability wish. In my honest opinion pro tools was only great for like 3 years at one point. After that I started hearing how it was inferior to a lot of other daws. That's when it became clear pro tools was mainly popular bc mixing engineers were receiving pro tool sessions (so in business you have to adapt or die). I'm currently just surprised they are so heavy with subscriptions. That's only going to leave so much money on the table bc the majority of musicians aren't making enough money from music to consider renting.
I just picked up the xvox to try it out I am going to replace my waves and slate vocal chains with this. I thought it was another scam plugin tell I tried it out and its shockingly fast to deal in a vocal chain.
Brooo - uufff !!! I’m spechless. Thks for sharing. Question does the x vox pro works also for instruments nd beats or just for the voice ? ….. happy new year.
Great video. Seems like a great plugin I have to try.I always put my auto level plugin before the compressor to help it. Is there a specific reason you put it after? You did´t gain compensate the A/B comparison. Dont you do that in daily mixing? Here to learn:-)
Great question - typically if it's a raw vocal, Xvox is the choice as it's the best toolset for vocals. Xrack would be the go to for instruments / busses / mixbus. Sometimes Xrack is great on a vocal bus to add some extra glue / polish, but that would be after Xvox is on all of the individuals - hope this helps!
Thank you! I just mixed my ballad yesterday and used these tools so now I know I was heading in the right direction!! Thank you so much for this video!! 🙏🏽♥️🙌🏽
Thank you! Great plugin combined with great tutor and mixing videos! How do you decide when to ride the vocal whether at the beginning or at the end? I mean do you recommend to use xrider always at the end of the chain after xvox? Is this vocal-chain order specific to xrider or a general mixing advice?
Great questions! Here’s the general thought process: If it’s meant to subtly tuck a vocal into the mix, Xrider goes at the very end of the chain. If the performance is overly dynamic (too loud and too soft, and compression isn’t smoothing it out enough by itself), and you want to use Xrider to do some more heavy dynamic correction, it’s best to put it first in the chain. Almost always, we’re putting Xrider at the very end of a chain. But once in a while, we’ll put it first to fix an overly dynamic performance.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes - you can certainly apply these same concepts and principals to any tools you’re using. These tools can make it faster and easier to dial in, but it’s whatever you’re most comfortable with!
Dummy newby here. Thanks just got bundle but not started yet. So i should have clean vocal track...then apply pitch correction xpitch.....and then this in chain right?
Hey hey, wanted to offer good tips. 1) Yes start clean and fresh; ensure you RECORD CLEAN; watch your sibilance; watch out for background humming/noise/echos; and make sure the levels are good. Its better to have audio too loud WITHOUT DISTORTION than a vocal track thats too quiet and you introduce other issues 2) Know the vibe of the song and what room(ambience) you require for the track. If its a song like he did, you want reverb and eq AFTER the vocals are recorded right. I do indie so i make sure the way i sound when i sing is airy like. 3) THE REST IS EAR TRAINING. The way you might mix for YOU can be different for different voices. The basics of a good mix are EQ/Balance/ Dynamics and panning. If you get those right, you can play around easier. Hope this helps 💐
we need a video like this but with a more mediocre amateur vocal, that's what most of us are stuggling with. my xvox settings often look just like that and it sill sounds like trash
Couple of questions 1. This plugin you're using seems to have it all in one but are you generally using any standalone EQs or Comps before and/or after using this tool? I don't really have any plugins that have all these options in one I just use stuff like REQ 2-6, LA2A, R-VOX Comp, and R Desser all separately before I worry about verb and delays. 2. Next question is does that chourus effect eliminate the need of recording double vocals to back up the lead? If not please explain why. Thank you much!
Great questions! 1. No - in this video and others on our channel, we're not doing any additional processing before or after. What you're hearing is just the raw vocal and whatever processing you see on screen! 2. Chorus doesn't eliminate the need to double track - if you want a "doubled vocal sound" (meaning you want it to sound like there are multiple stacks of vocals), the only way to get that effect is to record multiple takes. Chorus gives you a different sound that is somewhat similar, but not the same. Chorus is kind of a "synthetic" way to thicken a vocal, which sounds really pleasant and desirable if that's the effect you want, but it won't ever sound like you recorded double vocals. A lot of times, it's good to use a combination of both techniques - record doubles, and try applying a little chorus to the lead to thicken it up (if you're going for a very big sound, that is!) Hope this helps!
It’s still sounds like crap why poor vocal technique one and who ever eq the original was horrible to fatten it up make it sound thick most pro producers will triple track the vocal one center two panned with different effects on all three tracks so that processing doesn’t effect it by the way I record for all the major labels and major label artist as a writer! Lol
It’s most likely just for example. Also no producers don’t triple track the same recording. They have you record all different takes to layer into one. If you just took the same vocals and layered them it would sound like butt.
@ I write for major labels and artist like Beyonce and and Luke Bryant work with producers like Max Norman and Bobby rock and yes they do 100 percent they may take the original copy paste and pan two with two different effects left and right and one in middle ! And won’t sound like butt why then harmonies would never be used to layer lol my opinion is then you must be independent very small and never were commissioned by a label . I will say from what I have witnessed is your 100 percent wrong and what you did still did not save they track one they way it was recorded and what was added . And what do effects do enhance like a doubler or chorus or detune lol
@ look it up goggle lol I just did and yes even a1 says thicker sound lol you should do better research on your craft not to insult you but to Be more Knowledgeable let me let me google Hit songs double or Triples vocal
@ yes but copy paste and effect in each track like detune in one side or chorus to offset the other tracks yes that can be done as well or more mids on one side more low mid or treble in the other can also offset frequencies? Just saying
can you ACTUALLY start from beginning to end. A true tutorial. Yea you give some good tips but i personally think it would be more helpful if we saw and actual start to finish, bare dry vocals No skipping steps that could be critical to the mixing process
This is true! We like to think of a DAW / plugins more like tools you use to sculpt the sound into what you want it to be. We feel it’s easier to get a great mix with thst mindset, rather than coming from the mindset of “how to we clean and fix everything that’s wrong”. The “fixing” mindset usually leads to over processing.
Straight to the point, didn’t tell me to like or subscribe, no click bait title claiming you can do magic. Much appreciated man.
It all starts with a great performance and recording chain. That's the real secret that no one really talks about.
No plugin company can profit from this advice 🤣
@@Nightfunk😅
My comment got deleted on a very popular channel for saying this same thing. They care more about selling plugins and courses than telling green ppl it's the actual recording process that's key. Overlooking the fundamentals.
We agree 100%! If you’re not starting with a great source, it’s almost impossible to get a great mix.
That said - it’s very possible to poorly mix a great performance. It’s important to be sharp at every stage of the process if you want something that truly stands out.
It starts with a great song, then a great performance, great tracking, great editing, then you get to the step we cover here - mixing.
@therearenoruleshere Sorry to hear about that other company doing that to you! Here at Nuro Audio - we're all about helping people get the best possible recordings. For anyone curious to learn more about the fundamentals - here's a video we made covering lots of editing + tracking tips for getting the best results with any mic! th-cam.com/video/aikp5Ir2x0g/w-d-xo.html
I love your content. Straight to the point and full of knowledge. I absolutely love the xvox pro. My forever vocal chain. For someone that’s still learning how to mix. It makes my passion that much smoother.
So glad to hear you’re enjoying it 🔥🔥
And for vocal chains when starting out what chains do you recommend I know even stocks are good just wanted your opinion 👍🏾
I really appreciate this video, I want to start making my own beats but I’m really trying to record at home so a good mixing video is very valuable.
wow, this tutorials pretty nice ngl! i was not fw the song at first, but man once you put that plugin on it🔥🔥👌👌 imma need me to grab that one
that reverb duck was my favorite part of the video
I feel like you made this video for me, thank you! I love Xvox Pro
Glad to hear you’re enjoying it!!
This video opened my eyes so much thank you for the fresh perspective
simple and easy best plugin out there i love my
Incredible video thank you
wow my mix sounds hella better and you also turned me onto Xvox i had no idea this plugin existed but its so satisfying to use because of its simplicity thank you wizard Nuro
i needed this so good timing thanks !
🔥🔥🔥
He explains all the whys (wise). Great practical teacher you
Brilliant. You know your stuff. Xvox Pro looks like the real deal.
I look forward to every video! Thank you so much.
Great tips 😁
Such a stark difference and mixed so well really fast! My only question is if this would be the normal way? Don't most vocal tracks use a 'Send' for the delay/reverb? Would this be a "better" way to do it?
Trying to build my Home studio ( small size bedroom ) {120-132 sq ft} as a beginner …. ( Panels ) what do you guys recommend amount of Acoustic treatment Placement for recording & mixing ( Absorbtion ) on the walls & windows visually & ideally ?? And Diffusers & Bass traps need more details on if Its a necessity and he many Any good material type suggestions & links are very much appreciated ✅💯 ( I’m an Artist as well ) 🙏🏾 did some research just wanted more deep dive explanations 💯💯
Really amazing sounding ❤❤❤❤❤...thank you 💛
Appreciate that!!
you the truth brotha nice video could you do a trap or hip hop track this with this plugin please and thank you
I never really thought about it in an era aspect, but it's true. Although I never dove in the pro tools run it definitely could of happen BUT I ran across something else at the time...got familiar with it...and grew with it. So it make sense that the youngins would steer towards what's more convenient price and availability wish. In my honest opinion pro tools was only great for like 3 years at one point. After that I started hearing how it was inferior to a lot of other daws. That's when it became clear pro tools was mainly popular bc mixing engineers were receiving pro tool sessions (so in business you have to adapt or die). I'm currently just surprised they are so heavy with subscriptions. That's only going to leave so much money on the table bc the majority of musicians aren't making enough money from music to consider renting.
thank u very much, but at what db level's i have to put the voice and the beat? i use fl studio. And what about the master of the song?
Beautiful tutorial
Plz add the mix knob in the space and SFX modules
I just picked up the xvox to try it out I am going to replace my waves and slate vocal chains with this. I thought it was another scam plugin tell I tried it out and its shockingly fast to deal in a vocal chain.
thank you
Is that song you are mixing out? Would love to hear the final product
Can I give Idea ... I hope New Update, Please put Solo Button Each effect. Example Solo reverb,Delay,Eq,Compressor Or Any Solo Button. TQ
🔥🔥🔥
Getting my mixing right 😅now
Brooo - uufff !!!
I’m spechless. Thks for sharing. Question does the x vox pro works also for instruments nd beats or just for the voice ? ….. happy new year.
I use it a lot for instruments. If you find it’s not sitting in the mix, play around with it until you’re happy.
@ thks 😎
Great video. Seems like a great plugin I have to try.I always put my auto level plugin before the compressor to help it. Is there a specific reason you put it after? You did´t gain compensate the A/B comparison. Dont you do that in daily mixing? Here to learn:-)
Great mixing! Just one question...What is your process to decide if to use xvox or xrack? 🤔
Great question - typically if it's a raw vocal, Xvox is the choice as it's the best toolset for vocals. Xrack would be the go to for instruments / busses / mixbus. Sometimes Xrack is great on a vocal bus to add some extra glue / polish, but that would be after Xvox is on all of the individuals - hope this helps!
Thank you! I just mixed my ballad yesterday and used these tools so now I know I was heading in the right direction!!
Thank you so much for this video!! 🙏🏽♥️🙌🏽
🙏🙏
🔊🎶🔥
Thank you! Great plugin combined with great tutor and mixing videos! How do you decide when to ride the vocal whether at the beginning or at the end? I mean do you recommend to use xrider always at the end of the chain after xvox? Is this vocal-chain order specific to xrider or a general mixing advice?
Great questions! Here’s the general thought process:
If it’s meant to subtly tuck a vocal into the mix, Xrider goes at the very end of the chain.
If the performance is overly dynamic (too loud and too soft, and compression isn’t smoothing it out enough by itself), and you want to use Xrider to do some more heavy dynamic correction, it’s best to put it first in the chain.
Almost always, we’re putting Xrider at the very end of a chain. But once in a while, we’ll put it first to fix an overly dynamic performance.
@@nuroaudio Thank you for your detailed reply, highly appreciated. All the best!
Can you do the same as fl studio ???
Fl Studio is a DAW… he’s using a VST… Works in any DAW
I understand its xvox ad, but if you know what its doing... its very easy to figure out. Good video, nice sound and editing)
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes - you can certainly apply these same concepts and principals to any tools you’re using. These tools can make it faster and easier to dial in, but it’s whatever you’re most comfortable with!
Dummy newby here. Thanks just got bundle but not started yet. So i should have clean vocal track...then apply pitch correction xpitch.....and then this in chain right?
Hey hey, wanted to offer good tips.
1) Yes start clean and fresh; ensure you RECORD CLEAN; watch your sibilance; watch out for background humming/noise/echos; and make sure the levels are good. Its better to have audio too loud WITHOUT DISTORTION than a vocal track thats too quiet and you introduce other issues
2) Know the vibe of the song and what room(ambience) you require for the track. If its a song like he did, you want reverb and eq AFTER the vocals are recorded right. I do indie so i make sure the way i sound when i sing is airy like.
3) THE REST IS EAR TRAINING. The way you might mix for YOU can be different for different voices. The basics of a good mix are EQ/Balance/ Dynamics and panning. If you get those right, you can play around easier.
Hope this helps 💐
Hi 👋 I’m using studio one I don’t have xraider is there another vst I can use?
Sounds amazing my question is, are there other plugins added to the chain before its done or just these 2
Glad you liked it! It’s only Xpitch, Xvox Pro, and Xrider - vocals were recorded raw (no processing)
Okay whats best vocal rider or xrider ?
Hey man, real question. Where is your desk mic? Or do you use a clip on?
Great question! We use a Sennheiser MKH 416 mic just off camera
What levels are the best and dry vocals before processing?
Great question - generally, a good target would be between -16dB and -8dB, we typically prefer shooting for -12dB for tracking level of dry vocals.
My guy said if you want to make your mix better, then mix better 😂
we need a video like this but with a more mediocre amateur vocal, that's what most of us are stuggling with. my xvox settings often look just like that and it sill sounds like trash
Send us an email with your track in it to support@nuroaudio.com and we’ll see if we can share some insights on what to focus on!
@ that's awesome! I will!
Sick stuff...Is this Xvox Pro compatible with FL Studio 20?
Yes it is!
They basically eq’d the life out of the vocals
Question..What DAW are you using?
Pro Tools
Couple of questions
1. This plugin you're using seems to have it all in one but are you generally using any standalone EQs or Comps before and/or after using this tool?
I don't really have any plugins that have all these options in one I just use stuff like REQ 2-6, LA2A, R-VOX Comp, and R Desser all separately before I worry about verb and delays.
2. Next question is does that chourus effect eliminate the need of recording double vocals to back up the lead? If not please explain why.
Thank you much!
Great questions!
1. No - in this video and others on our channel, we're not doing any additional processing before or after. What you're hearing is just the raw vocal and whatever processing you see on screen!
2. Chorus doesn't eliminate the need to double track - if you want a "doubled vocal sound" (meaning you want it to sound like there are multiple stacks of vocals), the only way to get that effect is to record multiple takes. Chorus gives you a different sound that is somewhat similar, but not the same. Chorus is kind of a "synthetic" way to thicken a vocal, which sounds really pleasant and desirable if that's the effect you want, but it won't ever sound like you recorded double vocals. A lot of times, it's good to use a combination of both techniques - record doubles, and try applying a little chorus to the lead to thicken it up (if you're going for a very big sound, that is!)
Hope this helps!
@@nuroaudio thanks!
What's this DAW
Pro Tools
It’s still sounds like crap why poor vocal technique one and who ever eq the original was horrible to fatten it up make it sound thick most pro producers will triple track the vocal one center two panned with different effects on all three tracks so that processing doesn’t effect it by the way I record for all the major labels and major label artist as a writer! Lol
It’s most likely just for example. Also no producers don’t triple track the same recording. They have you record all different takes to layer into one. If you just took the same vocals and layered them it would sound like butt.
@ I write for major labels and artist like Beyonce and and Luke Bryant work with producers like
Max Norman and Bobby rock and yes they do 100 percent they may take the original copy paste and pan two with two different effects left and right and one in middle ! And won’t sound like butt why then harmonies would never be used to layer lol my opinion is then you must be independent very small and never were commissioned by a label . I will say from what I have witnessed is your 100 percent wrong and what you did still did not save they track one they way it was recorded and what was added . And what do effects do enhance like a doubler or chorus or detune lol
@ look it up goggle
lol I just did and yes even a1 says thicker sound lol you should do better research on your craft not to insult you but to
Be more
Knowledgeable let me let me google
Hit songs double or
Triples vocal
@@JakeTheDawgMusicOfficial let
Me know
After you read you doubles or triples vocals
@ yes but copy paste and effect in each track like detune in one side or chorus to offset the other tracks yes that can be done as well or more mids on one side more low mid or treble in the other can also offset frequencies? Just saying
can you ACTUALLY start from beginning to end. A true tutorial. Yea you give some good tips but i personally think it would be more helpful if we saw and actual start to finish, bare dry vocals No skipping steps that could be critical to the mixing process
... you mean like this? th-cam.com/video/-afPDYtoOGg/w-d-xo.html
Shit in = shit out AND donˋt 4get a DAW or a mixing desk is not a claning system. ;-)
This is true! We like to think of a DAW / plugins more like tools you use to sculpt the sound into what you want it to be. We feel it’s easier to get a great mix with thst mindset, rather than coming from the mindset of “how to we clean and fix everything that’s wrong”. The “fixing” mindset usually leads to over processing.