Hey Mate Just came across your channel.. fantastic. Though I'd make contact via comments. I live in Australia and recently bought two series 2a Australian army Land Rover's. Have owned many 4x4s but these are my first LRs. I've been on a steep learning curve ever since. I've read on Australian military forums that the 1ton came about after the army here developed their modifications and sent the blueprints/specs to LR UK. Or it could be a case of collaboration and cross pollination between here and the UK? Its very interesting though.. as the 1ton and Australian army 2a have similar (or perhaps the same?) Modifications.. ..dropped dumb irons at front of chassis, longer (military) shackles, crossmember cutouts for higher pinion angles, strengthened chassis etc. The ADF (Australian defense forces) had a whole list of requirements. The ADF 2a and 3 have a 2" lift over civilian models. The 2a's run the 4cyl and the 3 runs the 6cyl. Both have 7.50x16 bar grip strandard fitment (one difference). Although I recently saw a RAAF 2a fire fighter unit for sale here with 9.00x16s standard fitment. May have been a 1t or modified military? It didn't have the guard cut outs of the military 2a's. Both vehicles I bought are non runners and I'm in the process of rebuilding. One is a 109gs and the other is a 109workshop. The workshop has a lovely Bamford PTO winch fitted. It has sadly lost it's tray and cab over the years and has S3 body parts instead. The GS is all standard and currently stripped down. Pretty much finished all chassis welding repairs. Interestingly the chassis number is stamped onto the rear left spring hanger of ADF series 2a's.. I now know. Anyways...I'm rambling. I just wanted to make contact with you as Im enjoying your videos very much. Thanks!
G'day James. Whilst there is some cross pollination between Land Rovers military offerings (in the UK and Australasia) they are actually pretty distinct from a 1 Ton. A proper 1 Ton will have ENV axles, a different transfer box, steering box, rear springs and a few other minor details. The military vehicles were generally the same as a normal 3/4 Ton 109" but with the raised suspension and strengthened axle tubes, and usually the 2.25 petrol engine. The closest thing to a 1 Ton in Australia was the series 3 military with the 2.6 engine, although again the gearbox, steering box and axles are conventional, although by then even the 1 Ton had the Salisbury rear axle and the updated Rover front. More detail can be found at www.onetonlandrovers.co.uk Cheers 👍
V interesting. Yep, no ENV axles. Salisbury fitted as standard to the workshop spec here. The 6cyl was unloved over here and generally recognized as a step backwards. The 4cyl was found to be much more reliable, operating in remote areas.. a lot were retrofitted with Holden 186 or 202 cubic inch 6cyl engines.. local product, parts can still easily be found laying about. I'll be sure to check out the 1ton website. Some of the places I've lived here are quite remote (2 day trip to supermarket) and reliability is king. Any 4x4 here doesn't last long in standard trim. The corrugated dirt roads take an awful toll on running gear. Research the 1ton engineering will be a big help to see what LR upgraded.. other than the obvious Diffs/axles/suspension.
@@jamespotts9836 The various upgrades are listed on the site and are all "under the skin". The 2.6 was not well regarded as it actually needed looking after, unlike the 2.25 petrol which was/is pretty bomb proof, being a diesel engine converted to run on petrol basically. Hugely over-engineered. I suspect the 109" IIAs would still have (or at least had) the Rover rear axle with twigs for half shafts, as the Salisbury did not appear until the very last IIAs. Quite likely the Ozzies retrofitted them.
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Hey Mate
Just came across your channel.. fantastic. Though I'd make contact via comments.
I live in Australia and recently bought two series 2a Australian army Land Rover's. Have owned many 4x4s but these are my first LRs. I've been on a steep learning curve ever since.
I've read on Australian military forums that the 1ton came about after the army here developed their modifications and sent the blueprints/specs to LR UK. Or it could be a case of collaboration and cross pollination between here and the UK?
Its very interesting though.. as the 1ton and Australian army 2a have similar (or perhaps the same?) Modifications..
..dropped dumb irons at front of chassis, longer (military) shackles, crossmember cutouts for higher pinion angles, strengthened chassis etc. The ADF (Australian defense forces) had a whole list of requirements.
The ADF 2a and 3 have a 2" lift over civilian models. The 2a's run the 4cyl and the 3 runs the 6cyl. Both have 7.50x16 bar grip strandard fitment (one difference). Although I recently saw a RAAF 2a fire fighter unit for sale here with 9.00x16s standard fitment. May have been a 1t or modified military? It didn't have the guard cut outs of the military 2a's.
Both vehicles I bought are non runners and I'm in the process of rebuilding. One is a 109gs and the other is a 109workshop.
The workshop has a lovely Bamford PTO winch fitted. It has sadly lost it's tray and cab over the years and has S3 body parts instead.
The GS is all standard and currently stripped down. Pretty much finished all chassis welding repairs. Interestingly the chassis number is stamped onto the rear left spring hanger of ADF series 2a's.. I now know.
Anyways...I'm rambling. I just wanted to make contact with you as Im enjoying your videos very much. Thanks!
G'day James. Whilst there is some cross pollination between Land Rovers military offerings (in the UK and Australasia) they are actually pretty distinct from a 1 Ton. A proper 1 Ton will have ENV axles, a different transfer box, steering box, rear springs and a few other minor details. The military vehicles were generally the same as a normal 3/4 Ton 109" but with the raised suspension and strengthened axle tubes, and usually the 2.25 petrol engine. The closest thing to a 1 Ton in Australia was the series 3 military with the 2.6 engine, although again the gearbox, steering box and axles are conventional, although by then even the 1 Ton had the Salisbury rear axle and the updated Rover front. More detail can be found at www.onetonlandrovers.co.uk
Cheers 👍
PS build records suggest no 1 Tons made it to down under, I'm not aware of any there but one or two may have been imported in the intervening years.
V interesting. Yep, no ENV axles. Salisbury fitted as standard to the workshop spec here. The 6cyl was unloved over here and generally recognized as a step backwards. The 4cyl was found to be much more reliable, operating in remote areas.. a lot were retrofitted with Holden 186 or 202 cubic inch 6cyl engines.. local product, parts can still easily be found laying about.
I'll be sure to check out the 1ton website.
Some of the places I've lived here are quite remote (2 day trip to supermarket) and reliability is king. Any 4x4 here doesn't last long in standard trim. The corrugated dirt roads take an awful toll on running gear. Research the 1ton engineering will be a big help to see what LR upgraded.. other than the obvious Diffs/axles/suspension.
@@jamespotts9836 The various upgrades are listed on the site and are all "under the skin". The 2.6 was not well regarded as it actually needed looking after, unlike the 2.25 petrol which was/is pretty bomb proof, being a diesel engine converted to run on petrol basically. Hugely over-engineered. I suspect the 109" IIAs would still have (or at least had) the Rover rear axle with twigs for half shafts, as the Salisbury did not appear until the very last IIAs. Quite likely the Ozzies retrofitted them.
Has the one tonne have same chassis as civvy 109?
@@mattluszczak8095 No.