I would prefer the British London grading system especially people living in United Kingdom and Ireland and Scotland and view of the islands as you have less chance of losing your coins or any artefact antique less chance of damage especially with the Royal Mail delivery service
Cgs uk specialise in British coins generally with more emphasis on particular types and varieties of certain British coins which ngc/pcgs doesn't always note. so a different market to the larger American grading companies.
Very interesting. Wild that they use a different scale. Though, I kind of like the idea, they'll probably never really compete considering how accepted the Sheldon scale is now. It will be curious to see how the coin comes back from NGC.
Yes fully aware of NGC UK international coin grading and economics and comical. As I sent in an Ibrahim Lincoln copper coin 1943 and also 1933 British copper penneys to NGC international London to be graded . I paid for elite membership of NGC UK for coin grading plus further £100 and they was unable to do the job as they made excuses that it was a pgcs, so I sent them an envelope stamp £10 worth of address envelope to myself with chip also witnessed by the post office and many other people apparently they are unable to grade very expensive rare coins like my coins of Abraham Lincoln made out of copper 1943 D and 1933 copper British pennies .
According to their website, the grading scale equates to this: 0 - 19 VG, 20 - 39 FINE, 40 - 59 VF, 60 - 77 EF, 78- 100 Unc So that 75 you have would be what in Sheldon? AU58 perhaps?
London coin grading that all depends on the heritage auction do they value their skills of investigative journey into coin history the difference between NGC and PGCS it all depends on the auctions and like Christie's and Sotheby's where does heritage auctions specialise in coins and other historic values
You have become so much better at unboxings....in some of the older videos it was hack & slash :D Interesting experiment. You always come up with new ideas and stuff to keep your videos fresh
I have lived in usa all my life but i have great respect for all things british this week buying my first sovs i like the 1-100 scale never undertood the us company scale, anyway sounds good to me wish they were over here more competition never is bad
I also prefer the rare older coins as they have stories to tell head and tails of many kings and queens and Kings and King of Kings for example the British 1933 penny and the 1943 American Abraham Lincoln penny investigation and Investment and distinguishing between copies and fakes and replicas pointing out the facts factual truth process affect anything that goes with the stamp collection of rare stamps and events in the past and the present and the future of History historic value
The correct denomination for the the US Lincoln Cent is NOT penny. The US Mint has never struck a penny, yet the term persists from the habit of our colonial past.
@@johnsaia9739 yes it is the criminal activities of the British Colonial in America with the currency devaluation they called it the small penny actually a sent centre cent coins to acquire value for postage costs like all the stamps in America & backing commission communication of Elite members of Parliament peers & congress through females wife's gathering in sectors of secretaries and Mrs and secrecy using poetry communications between British Empire Ellie is one example
No, it is just what we are used to, the Sheldon scale, however, I would like to see both scales indicated on either a CGS, NGC or PCGS slab so collectors understand both scales and grades for the coins.
Well you might as well, better still learn to grade yourself, but it does take years as you need to know your coin. make use of mints in your country and museums , and they will tell you everything you ask them, and they will give a report, and its free, only perhaps postage fees.
@@philippayne4951 Which is why the saying goes, "buy the coin, not the holder" as you absolutely should know how to grade coins before you get serious in the hobby.
Curiosity killed the cat... Seems like a good idea to get a comparison but i'd say to be objective remove it from the slab and let them grade it blind..also good idea for a video thinking outside the box you could send it to pcgs first as well...but i know you only use Ngc
+rox dude I watched the way NGC work and I'm 90% sure that by the time a grader saw this it would have been removed from the slab first. If it had been PCGS it would have been kept in the slab and the grade covered
It doesn't mean that you're going to get the same grade, as you know grading is done by human beings you may get a lower grade or a higher grade, but if you have the money interesting to find out as long as you know it may not grade the same, I didn't know that the British had a grading service, why on earth would you risk sending them across the pond not to mention the return trip aren't you the slightest bit nervous in losing a shipment, I get nervous sending my tiny collection of 8 coins I'm sending to NGC I live in the United States and the US Post Office handles everything it stays within one system I have a U.S.PO Box number anyway good luck great video
+Drake always nervous yes but have not had one package go astray using international registered mail. The fact is that NGC and PCGS grading are accepted internationally and that opens my coins to more possibilities but CGS or LCGS is a very niche player with a different grading scale even
These grading services, are just as bad as each other. You either know how to grade properly or you do not. I have to say, that PCG and NGC are the worst of the lot .All this rubbish about grading is in the eye of the beholder is crap. And then when they slab a fake, and digs and give a high grade, we may as well give up. I have seen this time and time again.
And that is just the whole point. What is the correct grade. It cannot be human error, as we are told by their introduction film, that several of their staff check the coin, and yet it comes back with a different grade again. As said to numistacker, they cannot both be right or wrong. So why spend your hard earned money on this rubbish ?
Hi my father in law has got loads of different coins lincoln one cent coins canada coins and victoria coins edward vii coins and geroge vi coins and Queen Elizabeth ii coins and quater doller coins five cent coins and one dime coins and Jamaica coins king Edward vii emperor half penny coin 1907 coin and new zealand coins
Why would you ever want to send the coin in a slab that's graded? Absolutely defeats the entire purpose of testing NGC grading system against LCGS. Likely to come back very close to the same grade. After all...they are in the same business!
Having a company that sell, auctions and grade its a conflict of interest i wouldn't trust them, they could easy give all there coins top or at least higher grades to increase profits
Wasting good money again. CGS went out of business because they did grade their coins well, they did not charge enough to the collector, unlike PCGS and NGC, so of course these two NGCS and rotten PCGS corned the market. Why you waste money sending it to other slabbing firms beats me. I have to think of the old proverb, a fool and his money.
“Cornered the Market” is interesting as the plain truth is that there is a market and between NGC and PCGS 80,000,000 coins have been graded because collectors and dealers wanted it to be. In the USA The grading market developed mainly as a contra to fraudulent business practices by many dealers. In Europe those fraudulent business practices are still generally going on and are extremely common.
I would prefer the British London grading system especially people living in United Kingdom and Ireland and Scotland and view of the islands as you have less chance of losing your coins or any artefact antique less chance of damage especially with the Royal Mail delivery service
Cgs uk specialise in British coins generally with more emphasis on particular types and varieties of certain British coins which ngc/pcgs doesn't always note. so a different market to the larger American grading companies.
CGS no longer grades coins
Very interesting. Wild that they use a different scale. Though, I kind of like the idea, they'll probably never really compete considering how accepted the Sheldon scale is now. It will be curious to see how the coin comes back from NGC.
On British coins, I would like to see both scales indicated on the label which would make it easy for both UK and US/Canada collectors.
Is there a part 2 ?
Never heard of that grading service. Thanks for the info.
+Bullion Head I don't think you are missing much ))
Yes fully aware of NGC UK international coin grading and economics and comical. As I sent in an Ibrahim Lincoln copper coin 1943 and also 1933 British copper penneys to NGC international London to be graded . I paid for elite membership of NGC UK for coin grading plus further £100 and they was unable to do the job as they made excuses that it was a pgcs, so I sent them an envelope stamp £10 worth of address envelope to myself with chip also witnessed by the post office and many other people apparently they are unable to grade very expensive rare coins like my coins of Abraham Lincoln made out of copper 1943 D and 1933 copper British pennies .
According to their website, the grading scale equates to this:
0 - 19 VG, 20 - 39 FINE, 40 - 59 VF, 60 - 77 EF, 78- 100 Unc
So that 75 you have would be what in Sheldon? AU58 perhaps?
+MaxShiraz the info on forums and eBay says probably 63 but that's what makes it interesting and we will soon see
London coin grading that all depends on the heritage auction do they value their skills of investigative journey into coin history the difference between NGC and PGCS it all depends on the auctions and like Christie's and Sotheby's where does heritage auctions specialise in coins and other historic values
You have become so much better at unboxings....in some of the older videos it was hack & slash :D
Interesting experiment. You always come up with new ideas and stuff to keep your videos fresh
+John A it's not easy but somehow I have almost managed 500 videos
I detect a giveaway soon :D
where can you get coins graded in the uk by pcgs and put into a plastic holder thing?
Join PCCS and attend a coin show where they also attend
Just like NGC grades ancient coins on a different scale, I think hammered coins need a different scale entirely.
I have lived in usa all my life but i have great respect for all things british this week buying my first sovs i like the 1-100 scale never undertood the us company scale, anyway sounds good to me wish they were over here more competition never is bad
I am British, and live in the Uk and understand your concerns. Its a nightmare like the slabbing firms.
I also prefer the rare older coins as they have stories to tell head and tails of many kings and queens and Kings and King of Kings for example the British 1933 penny and the 1943 American Abraham Lincoln penny investigation and Investment and distinguishing between copies and fakes and replicas pointing out the facts factual truth process affect anything that goes with the stamp collection of rare stamps and events in the past and the present and the future of History historic value
The correct denomination for the the US Lincoln Cent is NOT penny. The US Mint has never struck a penny, yet the term persists from the habit of our colonial past.
@@johnsaia9739 yes it is the criminal activities of the British Colonial in America with the currency devaluation they called it the small penny actually a sent centre cent coins to acquire value for postage costs like all the stamps in America & backing commission communication of Elite members of Parliament peers & congress through females wife's gathering in sectors of secretaries and Mrs and secrecy using poetry communications between British Empire Ellie is one example
that's interesting.. will wait and see
Go for it! Do the US think they know best? Only their service?
No, it is just what we are used to, the Sheldon scale, however, I would like to see both scales indicated on either a CGS, NGC or PCGS slab so collectors understand both scales and grades for the coins.
It's like grading them yourself lol
+Elliott Holland quite probably
Well you might as well, better still learn to grade yourself, but it does take years as you need to know your coin. make use of mints in your country and museums , and they will tell you everything you ask them, and they will give a report, and its free, only perhaps postage fees.
@@philippayne4951 Which is why the saying goes, "buy the coin, not the holder" as you absolutely should know how to grade coins before you get serious in the hobby.
Did you ever get this re graded with ngc? I've had a little look in your videos but cannot find anything
From memory a 61 at NGC but I could be wrong
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It would not surprise me if it came a worse grade.
A fool if he did, he seems to like giving money away to these people.
I don't like the 1 to 100 scale. I prefer the commercial one
Numi did you get a result on this?
+Socialist Hater I think s 63 from memory
perhaps he got a lower grade. I wonder which one of them was correct. perhaps both were wrong. have you thought about that.?
Curiosity killed the cat... Seems like a good idea to get a comparison but i'd say to be objective remove it from the slab and let them grade it blind..also good idea for a video thinking outside the box you could send it to pcgs first as well...but i know you only use Ngc
+rox dude I watched the way NGC work and I'm 90% sure that by the time a grader saw this it would have been removed from the slab first. If it had been PCGS it would have been kept in the slab and the grade covered
It doesn't mean that you're going to get the same grade, as you know grading is done by human beings you may get a lower grade or a higher grade, but if you have the money interesting to find out as long as you know it may not grade the same, I didn't know that the British had a grading service, why on earth would you risk sending them across the pond not to mention the return trip aren't you the slightest bit nervous in losing a shipment, I get nervous sending my tiny collection of 8 coins I'm sending to NGC I live in the United States and the US Post Office handles everything it stays within one system I have a U.S.PO Box number anyway good luck great video
+Drake always nervous yes but have not had one package go astray using international registered mail. The fact is that NGC and PCGS grading are accepted internationally and that opens my coins to more possibilities but CGS or LCGS is a very niche player with a different grading scale even
Well that's the British for you if they drive on the wrong side of the road one can understand why they have a different system than NGC lol
These grading services, are just as bad as each other. You either know how to grade properly or you do not. I have to say, that PCG and NGC are the worst of the lot .All this rubbish about grading is in the eye of the beholder is crap. And then when they slab a fake, and digs and give a high grade, we may as well give up. I have seen this time and time again.
And that is just the whole point. What is the correct grade. It cannot be human error, as we are told by their introduction film, that several of their staff check the coin, and yet it comes back with a different grade again. As said to numistacker, they cannot both be right or wrong. So why spend your hard earned money on this rubbish ?
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Hi my father in law has got loads of different coins lincoln one cent coins canada coins and victoria coins edward vii coins and geroge vi coins and Queen Elizabeth ii coins and quater doller coins five cent coins and one dime coins and Jamaica coins king Edward vii emperor half penny coin 1907 coin and new zealand coins
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Why would you ever want to send the coin in a slab that's graded? Absolutely defeats the entire purpose of testing NGC grading system against LCGS. Likely to come back very close to the same grade. After all...they are in the same business!
Yes and think of all the money you wasted, with which you could of bought other nice coins.
Having a company that sell, auctions and grade its a conflict of interest i wouldn't trust them, they could easy give all there coins top or at least higher grades to increase profits
Another good reason, why I do not like slabbing.
They do, and that is part of the big con.
These people do, and that is why its a big con.
Wasting good money again. CGS went out of business because they did grade their coins well, they did not charge enough to the collector, unlike PCGS and NGC, so of course these two NGCS and rotten PCGS corned the market. Why you waste money sending it to other slabbing firms beats me. I have to think of the old proverb, a fool and his money.
“Cornered the Market” is interesting as the plain truth is that there is a market and between NGC and PCGS 80,000,000 coins have been graded because collectors and dealers wanted it to be. In the USA The grading market developed mainly as a contra to fraudulent business practices by many dealers. In Europe those fraudulent business practices are still generally going on and are extremely common.
Complete waste of money, in my opinion.