What if Napoleon Never Fell? (ft. Armchair Historian)

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  • @AlternateHistoryHub
    @AlternateHistoryHub  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1335

    So yeah VidCon took a lot out of my schedule. I was actually working on two videos at the same time. The other is halfway edited by now, so look forward to that next week. Check out Armchair Historian's video: th-cam.com/video/OE_dtHRITY8/w-d-xo.html

    • @rohithgadge3773
      @rohithgadge3773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What if Bismarck never able to unite Germany

    • @moritamikamikara3879
      @moritamikamikara3879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A.H.H are you going to be joining the youtubers union fairtube?

    • @hadtrio6629
      @hadtrio6629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      how about u do a video what if the ottoman empire at this point was taking the same industrial revolution as England and u better speak well of them

    • @ahmedtauseef8196
      @ahmedtauseef8196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Part 2

    • @이동연-c6d
      @이동연-c6d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AlternateHistoryHub What if Japanese lose in the Russo Japanese War?

  • @samdejonge8884
    @samdejonge8884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7541

    Napoleon's goal at waterloo wasn't to take over Europe again. His goal was to win and then negotiate for peace from a position of strength.

    • @ehcastro3156
      @ehcastro3156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      EPIC statement. I'm really grateful nowadays we have different kinds of media to learn about HISTORY: books, the internet and TV. ;)

    • @johnadams13
      @johnadams13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yup

    • @ollyoboomer7671
      @ollyoboomer7671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Probably he would become another king in the middle of the others

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      Napoleon still had family ties with Austria. Just maybe if he could defeat the British and Prussians, he could get the momentum to reach a settlement. After all, the Coalition was at each other's throats just moments before Napoleon returned to France.

    • @johnrichards7337
      @johnrichards7337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      The Allies were firm in their resolution not to negotiate. Even if Napoleon had annihilated Wellington and Blucher completely - very unlikely - there were still half a million more Allied troops coming right at him. He would have been in exactly the same position as 1814, except with both sides having rebuilt their armies. It would have been a longer and bloodier campaign, but the result would surely have been the same. There might have been a psychological effect if Wellington, a figure of great political significance, had been killed or captured - and it seems Napoleon was well aware of this - but, even without Wellington, Metternich would have held the Coalition together and maintained the strict policy of not negotiating.

  • @kennandunn7533
    @kennandunn7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2080

    "My enemies are many, my equals are none.
    In the shade of olive trees, they said Italy could never be conquered.
    In the land of pharaohs and kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled.
    In the realm of forest and snow, they said Russia could never be tamed.
    Now they say nothing.
    They fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in thunder and death.
    I say, I am Napoleon, I am Emperor."

    • @sirp7394
      @sirp7394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Total war

    • @yountendema5522
      @yountendema5522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sega first

    • @kapitan19969838
      @kapitan19969838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I understood that reference!

    • @bebased1785
      @bebased1785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What a chad.

    • @boyscouts83712
      @boyscouts83712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Vive L'EMPURE! VIVE LA FRANCE 🇫🇷!

  • @TheArmchairHistorian
    @TheArmchairHistorian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3199

    Thanks for working with me Cody, your video came out excellent!

    • @aaronberta3958
      @aaronberta3958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You rock dude

    • @threqt8066
      @threqt8066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aaronberta3958 ya

    • @nathanwurtz268
      @nathanwurtz268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How would you know? It just came out. AAAAAAA

    • @matthewvenner1015
      @matthewvenner1015 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait the video came out 3 mins ago and this comment was 6mins ago

    • @stefanidk7371
      @stefanidk7371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      your videos are also pretty good with your brilliant commentry so thank u for that

  • @andrewlampart
    @andrewlampart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3535

    Napoleon wouldn't have fallen if he had used Skillshare

    • @the_carter_smith
      @the_carter_smith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      Napoleon wouldn’t have been invaded if he protected his and France’s IP address with NordVPN

    • @Yellow.1844
      @Yellow.1844 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Progamer move

    • @powersettingsm7172
      @powersettingsm7172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thats Probably true.

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Nor if he used NordVPN or Brilliant. Or if he played Vikings: War of Clans. Or if he did anything relating to the sponsor monopolies.

    • @abhisheknanda9956
      @abhisheknanda9956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @France MilkywayGalaxy NAUTTP NATHDTC AVGCP ASITH well even some third world country can defeat France now.

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2463

    1800s Europe: everyone vs. France
    1900s Europe: everyone vs. Germany
    2000s Europe: everyone vs. Russia

    • @TitanJonkler
      @TitanJonkler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +353

      2020: everyone vs China

    • @jwil4286
      @jwil4286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      unenthusiastic salt but the EU is either hell bent on hating Russia, or is hell bent on rebuilding the Silk Road

    • @jefferygoldmann2643
      @jefferygoldmann2643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@unenthusiasticsalt2123 but china isn't in Europe

    • @fakehiker965
      @fakehiker965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Luiz Bangayan I hope so. China is the last real communist power left, we beat them. We beat the Bolsheviks for good.

    • @Hadahuda
      @Hadahuda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @Deez Nuts yeah then we have to just beat the most evil country and bam done the world will be in peace

  • @benbovard9579
    @benbovard9579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1065

    Also Tchaikovsky wouldn't have written that dope 1812 Overture where the cannon officially became an instrument.

  • @leaderofthelewishpeople6382
    @leaderofthelewishpeople6382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3653

    If you're invading Russia, learn from the Mongols and invade from the east.

    • @hauntologicalwittgensteini2542
      @hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 5 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      The mongols never fully suceed in invading Russia

    • @szymongrela6557
      @szymongrela6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +547

      Imagine how France would attack Russians from east

    • @lucaventinove3151
      @lucaventinove3151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +483

      So attack while Russia is divided in different weak and underdeveloped principalities while you posses the biggest and most powerful army in the world and an empire which goes from Kazakhstan to Korea

    • @frenchsoldier8485
      @frenchsoldier8485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @@szymongrela6557 It would require an impossible amount of supplies that I doubt even the British could manage

    • @Prodigi50
      @Prodigi50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Luca ventinove The Russian principalities weren’t underdeveloped then. Also I don’t think their army was the biggest (definitely the best though).

  • @modernclassicalmusic8942
    @modernclassicalmusic8942 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2274

    I think the more interesting scenario would be if the Battle of Trafalgar ended in French Victory

    • @moblinmajorgeneral
      @moblinmajorgeneral 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Hastings 1805

    • @lucassenandelopez6324
      @lucassenandelopez6324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      The invasion of GB was alredy postponed because of the advanced season, even If ALL of the british fleet was lost, Britain still had an advantage in number of ships, these had also better sea crew who shot faster, even if Britain lost the 27 ships at Trafalgar, an invasion of GB wouldn't happen and maybe not in 1806 but eventually, France would lose the war at sea anyways, she had lost so many battles that her Navy was crippled

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      I've made the Alternate Battle of Trafalgar video. From all the research I've done on Trafalgar, a true Franco-Spanish victory would have been impossible, the crews were just in too bad a condition to outright win. The Royal Navy blockades meant the Franco-Spanish crews had little experience at sea or with naval gunnery, the best they could do is train their crews with a musket and turn them into crack shots. Best they could hope for is a pyrrhic victory where the Royal Navy loses some of their best ships in the charge and then retreats to fight another day. Then you would have the Franco-Spanish alliance breaking down as it did historically which would divide the naval strength of both nations in half, leaving the Royal Navy once again dominant.

    • @johnrichards7337
      @johnrichards7337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Napoleon's plans for the invasion of Britain had already been foiled by the fleet movements earlier in the year and Napoleon had moved east to Ulm. Trafalgar was of huge psychological importance - setting the seal on Britain's dominance of the Seas for the next Century - but strategically of little significance.

    • @jamiekamihachi3135
      @jamiekamihachi3135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is the Royal Navy is still a major threat and amphibious invasions are really hard and logical nightmares.

  • @spacemushroom830
    @spacemushroom830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    "No amount of planning wins against the grim reaper"
    *CGP Grey wants to know your location*

    • @SirAntoniousBlock
      @SirAntoniousBlock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "China is a sleeping giant, let her sleep because if she awakens slit her throat!"

    • @ThePro-qn6wr
      @ThePro-qn6wr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SirAntoniousBlock where is this Quote from?

    • @SirAntoniousBlock
      @SirAntoniousBlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ThePro-qn6wr Err that one is mine, but the original quote _"“Let China sleep. For when she wakes, the world will tremble”._ was supposedly Napoleon.

    • @ThePro-qn6wr
      @ThePro-qn6wr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SirAntoniousBlock oh, thanks for telling me :D

  • @Arthur_Wellesley
    @Arthur_Wellesley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    "Napoleon would've been more successful if he took a defensive stance." Lol nah, Napoleon was at war with Britain, Prussia, Russia and Austria. France would be defeated in a matter of weeks. Napoleon's decison to attack while his enemies were divided was a smart strategic decision.

    • @BBb-vp3sl
      @BBb-vp3sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There’s never a time when you should defend if you’re wanting to last long. Quote from George Patton about it

    • @daemonzap1481
      @daemonzap1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This is coming from the duke of wellington

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol you are underestimating Napoleon Grande armée untouched by the Russians winter with still it's veteran in charge. Btw i took a dump to the wall of St Paul's Cathedral so i could pay my "respect" to you sir Wellington, still very proud of it🧐

    • @theveryproudmoroccan2834
      @theveryproudmoroccan2834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Arthus Wellesley the most overrated general of all time. It was the Prussians that won the day and it was mainly because Napoleon had stomach cancer.

    • @gergelylaszlo5463
      @gergelylaszlo5463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theveryproudmoroccan2834 what would have the prussians do alone? Yeah right, nothing. Do not forget the six days campaign. Wellington was also smart at defending he tired napoleon's forces keepimg he's own forces at low casuality rate letting napoleon fall into he's own trap by attacking wellington's farm houses, and most importantly delaying for the prussians to arrive and pursue the tired french. I hate this kind of Prussaboos/Kaiserboos saying " PrUSsiA iS ThE bESt " and "can not be beaten" Like bro learn about the seven years war, it was a prussian victory in the end but in the early war they lost many men and battles not to mention prussia during the 4th coalition...oh god.

  • @EmperorTigerstar
    @EmperorTigerstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2494

    Don’t think we didn’t notice that parody of Childish Gambino.

  • @areasevenpro
    @areasevenpro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    Simple Answer: ABBA would've had one less song on their greatest hits playlist.

    • @seppoleonvervloet132
      @seppoleonvervloet132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      ABBA probably wouldn't be popular considering Waterloo is the song that they won Eurovision with. That win skyrocketed their careers

    • @S7yx0
      @S7yx0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      TRAFALGAR ! I was defeated, but will be back for more !

    • @misterhydra7285
      @misterhydra7285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S7yx0 that doesn’t have the same ring to it tbh

    • @tadhgpidgeon5176
      @tadhgpidgeon5176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Waterloo, where wellington did surrender!" Just doesn't have the same ring, does it?

    • @jef_3006
      @jef_3006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How could I have forgotten the most important repercussion!

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1386

    AlternateHistoryHub: "Napoleon and Waterloo, name a more iconic duo."
    Me: PFFT that's easy. AlternateHistoryHub and The Armchair Historian of course.

    • @totsuka2213
      @totsuka2213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      How do I see you everywhere?

    • @thomasteunter3522
      @thomasteunter3522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      r/comedy cemetery

    • @spicylemon6255
      @spicylemon6255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thomas Teunter r/ihavereddit

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We meet again you are everywhere

    • @firstnamelastname7079
      @firstnamelastname7079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i got both of their videos on waterloo in my recommendations

  • @DonMadruga72
    @DonMadruga72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Never doubt an 11-year-old's ability to rule an empire. He may surprise you.

    • @SP-rt4ig
      @SP-rt4ig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Carolus Rex was only 14 when he became king of Sweden.

    • @DonMadruga72
      @DonMadruga72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@SP-rt4ig Another example is in South America. Pedro II managed to stabilize Brazil with 14 years after 9 years of disastrous Regencies. Five years later and a civil war started in the regency would end with an Imperial victory.

    • @uriargaman7241
      @uriargaman7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@DonMadruga72 The difference between 14 and 11 is *immense*.

    • @zoyuomg5934
      @zoyuomg5934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Napoleon wasn't 11 year old lol

    • @unitedstatesofamerica5876
      @unitedstatesofamerica5876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sup Willie

  • @samuelrodrigues4642
    @samuelrodrigues4642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    0:05 as a brazilian, i'm very offended
    thank you reminding us of that

  • @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365
    @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Why everybody says that Napoleon was not the same as younger?The Waterloo campaign was a military masterpiece and he created a new, fully equiped(if you not consider some exceptions like for example the lack of military uniforms in the ranks of the national guard,as we know from some historical records that half of the men serving as guardes nationale didn't have the uniforms they were supposed to) and really experienced army when the economy of France was really bad (even then against all the odds he managed to make the french economy better).Pay some respect for that great man :(.

    • @tfw2997
      @tfw2997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The eternal anglo fears the frenchmen. Anglo demon blood runs through the veins of Cody

    • @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365
      @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Hoàng Nguyên Don't forget that because of them the battle of France was lost.If you want I can tell you more about it.

    • @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365
      @josephchristopherdeboulogn2365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @Hoàng Nguyên Alright,so in the 21st of May 1940 general Weygan took the command of the 1st army group and planned a counter attack against the Germans (which was really likely to succeed) for the 24th of May.At the same time Lord Gort(the commander of the British Expeditionary Force) had taken orders from the British goverment to organise a retreat to the town of Dunkirk while destroying all the vehicles and ammunition of the expeditionary force in his way there. The English started the retreat to Dunkirk without saying anything to the French and the front broke forcing the French to retreat too. The ironic part of this was the fact that the BEF harashed the French forces more than the Germans did. Why you ask? Well...during their retreat the English captured most of the key points behind the frontlines and left there a part of their force. When the frontlines broke the French needed to pass threw those key points to be able to retreat. ALTHOUGH the British didn't let them pass unless they destroyed most of their equipment (artillery,vehicles,ammunition e.t.c). Yeah...as you can guess they were THE PERFECT allies.

    • @sergentsaucisse8290
      @sergentsaucisse8290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@josephchristopherdeboulogn2365 as much as I like bashing the britbongs, you can't entirely blame them for our defeat. The Belgians not accepting the maginot line and our fucking shit high command took a big part too. Like they say "les français sont des lions commandés par des cons".

    • @PhoenicksUK
      @PhoenicksUK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sergentsaucisse8290 Yep - considering that the BEF was there to support what was essentially a French show, it's hardly surprising that when the speed of the German attack caused panic & indecision in the French military leadership (who were supposed to be directing the actions of the BEF), that there was going to come a point when Gort had to make a decision - he'd already been told by the Belgians that his northern flank was going to fall. France could have, perhaps should have, won the Battle of France - they had the troops, the tanks, a decent air force, but they had the wrong people in command. Proper deployment of armour, as advocated by de Gaulle, and numerous other things would have led to a different outcome. The BEF was just a minor part of the forces under the French and pretty much incidental to much of what happened. I think JCdeB is a bit of a fantasist with his Wegand theory!
      And by the way, I love France and I'd rather be French than British with all this Brexit shite going on. We went to Oradour-sur-Glane in June; a shocking event, a horrific bit of history we don't know about in the UK.

  • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
    @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    I never fell.
    I live on in the hearts and minds of revolutionaries and contrarians the world over.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      you would rule the usiverse

    • @thwethweyi9910
      @thwethweyi9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are emperor of our minds

    • @karsentube13yt
      @karsentube13yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saying you never fell is like saying Hotzendorf was competent

    • @xxcattoxx544
      @xxcattoxx544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a massive cock

    • @simonwyzik8661
      @simonwyzik8661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SHORT

  • @gabrielferreira1531
    @gabrielferreira1531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    What if Cleopatra and Mark Anthony defeats Octavio at Actium?
    What If Technocracy Succeeded?
    What if the Commonwealth of England never returns to monarchy, and the Cromwells stayed in power?

    • @generalbeta9133
      @generalbeta9133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was Agrippa who defeated Antony and Cleopatra, Octavian was in Rome I think.

    • @gabrielferreira1531
      @gabrielferreira1531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Octavian was in Actium . Agrippa worked as commander of the fleet

    • @charlesdewitt8087
      @charlesdewitt8087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Cromwell did stay in power. He died in power. His son on the other hand...

    • @gabrielferreira1531
      @gabrielferreira1531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@charlesdewitt8087 I mean the Cromwell family.

    • @charlesdewitt8087
      @charlesdewitt8087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gabrielferreira1531 Ah, my mistake.

  • @noctarin1516
    @noctarin1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    i just realised that even though the napoleonic wars lasted for more than a decade, i never took into account napoleon would age

  • @TheGreatLlamaJockey
    @TheGreatLlamaJockey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I love how all the history Channels here are friends, like they have their own secret club

  • @tjoconnell2524
    @tjoconnell2524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +525

    Please do what if the Qing dynasty never fell or what if Byzantium never fell to the ottomans.

    • @Thevlogboy1
      @Thevlogboy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      What if the Fourth Crusade never happened (specifically the sack of Constantinople) would also be quite interesting.

    • @placeholder8768
      @placeholder8768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Let's get you up on the Leaderboard interestingly, one thing that could happen would be no renaissance, as thanks to the fourth crusade, Venice got rich, which spearheaded the Renaissance.

    • @grandinquisitor8335
      @grandinquisitor8335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      qing like the other dynastys were men't to fall some reason where more Europe imperialism the qing being dominated by Manchus which was becoming more and more abusive towards the han people as the manchus were (and still are) dominating china and refusing to modernize and im surprised that they even lasted as long as they did

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@grandinquisitor8335 many reforms in the qing empire were brought in, but the empress dowager regent cixi, along with ultra conservative factions, repealed all of them during her son's minority and the dynasty actually was losing its manchu identity by the time it was abolished, that's actually a big part of the reason why manchu culture is so rare now, they mostly assimilated into han culture (although those who weren't assimilated were discriminated against due to their unpopularity).
      You could probably go into a what if the final emporer had been of age when he inherited the throne, likely leading to a more sun-yat sen influenced approach assuming that he liberalises the country or what if japan had invaded all of china and installed the now adult emporer as a puppet, likely with a severely decentralised administration that would probably in truth be directly accountable to the japanese government and with the emporer having little influence and being more of a figurehead as he basically was in manchuria.

    • @Sam-uc3lv
      @Sam-uc3lv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Byzantium boner

  • @mappingmapping95
    @mappingmapping95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    What if all of the land/land bridges that flooded after the ice age somehow managed to stay after the ice age?

    • @domninin
      @domninin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah because that would be easy to predict

    • @DarDarBinks1986
      @DarDarBinks1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I doubt that. The end of an ice age means melting ice. All that water has to go SOMEWHERE.

    • @adammazeli
      @adammazeli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Imagine mongol empire in america

    • @bigmac1516
      @bigmac1516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      what? how could you possibly predict anything meaningful from that?

    • @shiny_teddiursa
      @shiny_teddiursa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mapping Mapping britian would be f*cked

  • @-socialcredit
    @-socialcredit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    Cody: "Napoleon and Waterloo, name a more iconic duo"
    Me, an intellectual: Hiroshima and Nagasaki

    • @vincentwitt1810
      @vincentwitt1810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you call yourself an intellectual but can’t spell intellectual correctly.. lol

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Midway and the Japanese getting fucked

    • @damienmiller1302
      @damienmiller1302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Australia and emus

    • @josh0g
      @josh0g 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's so funny when people refer to themselves as "intellectual". Absolutely no one respects them from that point.

    • @KoteDarasuum
      @KoteDarasuum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Its so funny when people are so serious about a joke

  • @marshalmarshall2109
    @marshalmarshall2109 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the universal powers that be simply didn't want the frenchman to win, which makes me feel bad for him.

  • @ColonelPeppers
    @ColonelPeppers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    6:40 So Cody is getting married? Congratulations.

  • @sharkronical
    @sharkronical 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Napoleon : slowly dying of cancer even if he held unto power
    What if Hitler kept his title as fuhrer in 1945 : *Not now Ferb"

  • @vikingen244
    @vikingen244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    My my
    At Waterloo Napoleon did surrender
    Oh yeah
    And I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself
    Waterloo I was defeated, you won the war
    Waterloo promise to love you for ever more
    Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
    Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo
    My my
    I tried to hold you back, but you were stronger
    Oh yeah
    And now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
    And how could I ever refuse
    I feel like I win when I lose
    Waterloo I was defeated, you won the war
    Waterloo promise to love you for ever more
    Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
    Oh, oh Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo
    So how could I ever refuse
    I feel like I win when I lose
    Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
    Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
    Oh, oh Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you

    • @holdencazes5208
      @holdencazes5208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ABBA!!! I love this song

    • @Cylus024
      @Cylus024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Take my like you glorious viking

    • @retrogaminggenesis6102
      @retrogaminggenesis6102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This comment has been claimed by SME

    • @MCL003
      @MCL003 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vikingen took me 2 reads of the begging to realise it was the Waterloo song

    • @apotato6278
      @apotato6278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ja för fan! Roligt nog är en ABBA-text bland det sista jag förväntade mig.

  • @LC-bk8mp
    @LC-bk8mp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    “What if napoleon never fell?”
    Well.. He would get less bruises, that’s about it..

  • @joryjones6808
    @joryjones6808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Napoleon: I have an army.
    Russia: we have winter.

    • @tentathesane8032
      @tentathesane8032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Napoleon: you cannot defeat me
      Russia: I know, but he can-
      *Winter rises from the mountain*

    • @Canada1994
      @Canada1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hitler had the same conversation too

    • @qr8440
      @qr8440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Canada1994 And Karl XII

    • @jaykilbourne1110
      @jaykilbourne1110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And the Cossacks, Kutuzov, and Time

    • @SaintJust1214
      @SaintJust1214 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaykilbourne1110 Kutuzov didn't do much. It was mostly disease, lack of supplies and the weather

  • @leaderofthelewishpeople6382
    @leaderofthelewishpeople6382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    When the snow starts speaking Finnish.
    Russians: *heavy breathing
    When the jungle starts speaking Vietnamese
    Americans: *heavier breathing
    When Waterloo starts singing Rule Britannia and Land of Hope and Glory
    The French: *very heavy breathing*

    • @johannesmakila2459
      @johannesmakila2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You sir win internet with that.

    • @Rayan-bj8wn
      @Rayan-bj8wn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      more like when the forest near waterloo starts speaking Prussian

    • @suburbanboi2404
      @suburbanboi2404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      When the waves start speaking English
      Germans: heavy breathing

    • @frenchsoldier8485
      @frenchsoldier8485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When the winter come 3 days early: *Heaviest breathing*

    • @moritamikamikara3879
      @moritamikamikara3879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When the roofs start speaking Korean

  • @boltmix7294
    @boltmix7294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    The Armchair Historian looks kind of creepy in the thumbnail

    • @duka1461
      @duka1461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He sounds like that aswell.

    • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
      @MaxwellAerialPhotography 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Griffin always looks creepy, because he is.

    • @jojo3NNN
      @jojo3NNN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was the reason Napolean failed in the first place.

    • @calamityechoes3496
      @calamityechoes3496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like that guy in the park ogling the kids

  • @potatobaby8988
    @potatobaby8988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Then he would have never gotten the emotional trauma as a child from that one fall, he would have never became a general and he would have never became emperor. All of the worlds problems come from that one fall napoleon had when he was 6, while playing outside

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      PotatoBaby Really all modern problems are the result of the American Revolution (as much as I love my country and it breaks my heart to say). Without the American Revolution, there is no French Revolution. The very ideals don’t even exist. Napoleon would just be some random Army Officer who gets onto Wikipedia for that one time he did something that you’d see in a fun facts video on French History at best, without the American Revolution.

    • @somerandompersonidk2272
      @somerandompersonidk2272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@wisemankugelmemicus1701 And that wouldn't have happened without the debt from the 7 years war which was caused by Prussia [which created Germany] fighting a war with Austria over Silesia. Which went out of control.

    • @dontmindme7367
      @dontmindme7367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Even without the American Revolution, the situation in France pretty much guareenteed that the French revolution would happen eventually.

    • @VoxTurbula
      @VoxTurbula 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Wisemankugel Memicus
      "the ideal"
      well the lumière existed before the american revolution (in fact the french philosopher influenced your founding father for the American constitution) and most of the reason of the french revolution was because of the philosopher, debt ,military force from Austria and the desire of Louis XVI to do the same thing that Louis XIV (most absolut monarchy).
      I don't know if without the American revolution got a butterfly effect, because history is really hard to grasp (i know that, as someone working in that field) but the American revolution did not directly created the french revolution, it was mainly the event i have given you at the beginning (at best half of the debt was because of our alliance with the rebels, but won or lost would have made the same result).

    • @colegilliam2379
      @colegilliam2379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wisemankugel Memicus “without the american revolution, there is no French Revolution.” That is the biggest piece of BS ive ever seen in my life

  • @theskepticalskeptic1351
    @theskepticalskeptic1351 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Napoleon taking the fight to the Coalition was absolutely the smartest move. He was not at all a universally beloved leader when he returned. He had the support of the military, and Paris but most of the rest of the country was lukewarm at best about his return, and some regions like the Vendee were in open rebellion.
    France would never have fought a guerilla war against the Allies because they just wanted the fighting to be over. Napoleon needed to win a quick early victory to inspire confidence and buy time to raise more troops and prepare the defense of Paris.

  • @SPAC3MAN999
    @SPAC3MAN999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Russia only has ever had 2 good generals: January and February.

    • @50shekels
      @50shekels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Starwarsfan quote by Napoleon. Always give credit. You didn’t think of that

    • @benjaminvidstein6029
      @benjaminvidstein6029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Starwarsfan
      And yet Napoleon was never in Russia at that time. He invaded in lateJune, and left russian territory in early december

    • @benjaminvidstein6029
      @benjaminvidstein6029 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hans Günther : )

    • @wkqdehhvkhhh545
      @wkqdehhvkhhh545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about Zhukov

    • @santoslittlehelper06
      @santoslittlehelper06 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chuikov and Zhukov might beg to differ.

  • @christianpoppell745
    @christianpoppell745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Some people also say that the wallpaper on the house that he was exiled to was coded in poison causing him to get the stomach cancer

    • @uriargaman7241
      @uriargaman7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poison doesn't cause cancer.

    • @proaaron578
      @proaaron578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@uriargaman7241 His bedroom may have been colored in scheele's green, which contains arsenic, which could cause cancer in long term exposure. Sleeping in the bedroom for years probably counts.

  • @nelsonnoname001
    @nelsonnoname001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    HEY GUYS I GOT AN IDEA! Let's retreat from Russia, and cross over a single bridge over a frozen river in a winter blasted icy hellscape, while we are literally starving, and being picked off by Russian infantry one by one

    • @Victordstg
      @Victordstg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nelson NoName well that was the only solution and the Strategy before that was really good

    • @TheHippoBLT
      @TheHippoBLT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair it was 3 bridges..

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When you realize Napoleon wasn't really that short and he was probably the average height of a french man at that time period

  • @ernestoA.1999
    @ernestoA.1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    8:26 “Time has changed , he was older , the gas was running “. Yet in the Six Days Campaigns he won 6 battles in 5 days , crushing Bluchers army 56,000 Prussians with just 30,000 men Inflicting 25,000 casualties and losing only 3,500 men 🙄

    • @acat6145
      @acat6145 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Napoleon is still Napoleon even if he was getting less sharper and less refined he was still the best general in Europe bar none so yes Napoleon was likely getting a bit tired

  • @AuroraIceFlame
    @AuroraIceFlame ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really look up to napoleon as my historical icon. He never gave up. Even after being completely exiled he came back to try again.

  • @steelfist1305
    @steelfist1305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's ok you took a while. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and we're glad you're back. :)

  • @axb6061
    @axb6061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Cody: “Sometimes in life you simply cannot change nature”
    Also Cody: “What if Pangea still existed?”

  • @thorboy666
    @thorboy666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    What if my loo didn't have water?

  • @clintmoi4468
    @clintmoi4468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This blog has taught me so much. I usually find your that your videos an exercise in futility, however this one made sense. History will always play it self out.
    Thanks

  • @Carolus_Rex1995
    @Carolus_Rex1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an Australian, genuinely appreciate the Gallipoli reference in the intro.

  • @luispelayo5486
    @luispelayo5486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    What if Harald Hadrada became King of England instead of William the Conqueror?

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think france may have centralised earlier as Eleanor of aquitaine may have not had her marriage to the king of france annulled and may have had a son, since the angevin founder (in england) Henry I (I think the first could be the second) might not seem like such a good match, although maybe he would still seem like a good marriage opportunity since he did have claims on brittany and normandy anyway.
      Basically if you want to be optimistic, france could have been more unified sooner and so may have been more powerful throughout the middle-ages, possibly leading it to having more land west of the rhine, while britain would probably eventually dominate a north sea empire of itself, denmark and norway after the union could become better established (since Harald also planned on invading denmark and knut had very recently united the north sea kingdoms).
      Alternatively, france could still have issues unifying if eleanor still gets her marriage annulled and continues to marry Henry of anjou since they would still have all of western, southern, and a significant amount of northern france, a 100 years war probably wouldn't happen though since I doubt england would put as much effort into backing an angevin claimant to the french throne as they did trying to put their own angevin king on the french throne, the angevin dynasty, not ruling england also probably wouldn't invoke agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as a way to claim the throne of france since that claim was based on english law (whic in this timeline may actually maintain the tradition of the witangamot, which had survived invasions from scandinavians), and without england as a crutch, Henry's rebellious children may have actually split his lands into many pieces as they almost did. So again france may have still reaped the benefits of weaker vassals, just with an incredibly powerful dynasty as a load of now bickering vassals. While england, not dominating wales, scotland and ireland through the hiberno-normans, cumbrio-normans and anglo-normans who spread into these areas within williams lifetime (i think), may have more issues uniting the british isles since the focus would now be on the north sea.
      either way, the crusades would also be very different probably, don't know how though.
      Emma of normandy would also be a slightly less interesting historical figure for me
      At least that's what I think could happen. After that there might be changes in how much france and britain colonise other lands but idk if we would really know much that far into an alternative timeline.

    • @akmonra
      @akmonra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You could probably speculate about how things would play out for the next century or so, but after that it seems it would be next-to impossible, since so much of our history would be radically, unimaginably different.

    • @Canada1994
      @Canada1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd bet that that alternate England would colonize the new world centuries earlier with the Viking knowledge of Vinland (and yes I know the Normans were Vikings too) leading to the Age of Discovery happening centuries earlier too

    • @alexr6705
      @alexr6705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Achievement unlocked: Hard Ruler

  • @rainmanslim4611
    @rainmanslim4611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sseth, Internet Historian AND alternatehistoryhub in one day!? Oh God... its... so... good

  • @MrShadowFilmz
    @MrShadowFilmz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    What if the US Senators were still appointed by the states' legislature?

    • @joltcoaming353
      @joltcoaming353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The Republicans would control 2/3 of the Senate, states would have more rights, the government would be less centralized.

    • @bfnvalley
      @bfnvalley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People might care about more than just the senate and presidential elections.

    • @tfw2997
      @tfw2997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Less taxes, less big government intervention, more isolationist

    • @STM1066
      @STM1066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      joltcoaming so...everything would be better?

    • @surpassmolds5933
      @surpassmolds5933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@STM1066 probably, fuck the 17th amendment

  • @joeygk2990
    @joeygk2990 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The whole reason Napoleon went to Belgium was because the British and Prussian armies split, there was a valid reason behind it, not just "hurr durr im going to be aggresive"

  • @justinschicker8424
    @justinschicker8424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’ve loved this channel for a long time, and it’s so interesting to see how much its style has changed over time.

  • @maxbuster1508
    @maxbuster1508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Which is better? Napoleon's design in "What if Napoleon never came to power?" or the one in this video?

  • @BloodyCrow__
    @BloodyCrow__ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With all of mainland europe you would think napoleon could just build more ships than england had.

  • @neoconwarhawk1001
    @neoconwarhawk1001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Could you talk about the world of wolfenstein.

  • @WhiteAnims2
    @WhiteAnims2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Probably he because overthrew the Spanish King and put a French one to become king of Spain, invading russia, or losing at Leipzig.

  • @thatlaprass4126
    @thatlaprass4126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t worry about the long upload time. I like your videos and we can all tell that you’ll really been doing your best to get us videos without sacrificing the quality of your content!

  • @potatosinnato1767
    @potatosinnato1767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ya my two fav TH-camrs collaborating!!

  • @ringostarrfann3390
    @ringostarrfann3390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    What if Alexander the Great didn't die young

    • @tywire7288
      @tywire7288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's right Imature kids who didn't understand the implications of what killing people would do they just wanted to have fun.

    • @endraandre
      @endraandre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He will die older, duh

    • @illegalalien6542
      @illegalalien6542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'd make the most of the night😏

    • @Kunumbah1
      @Kunumbah1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      fjf sjdnx No he was 33

    • @dominicguye8058
      @dominicguye8058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would have tried to invade Arabia.

  • @thatfighterguy5846
    @thatfighterguy5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There's an pair of HoI4 mods along these lines called "Emperor of the World" and "Apres Moi le Deluge".
    If you have the game I totally recommend them!

  • @xpmiracle7739
    @xpmiracle7739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No, there was nothing we could do ‘music’

  • @Eccentrick218
    @Eccentrick218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! My favorite scenario finally got made!

  • @gilconnelly3782
    @gilconnelly3782 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah Napoleon had been on a downward trajectory since the 4th coalition. His problem was that the Habsburgs were growing deformed, inbreed brains. And then the peninsula war was happening... And the n he invaded Russia, and a lot of the newly French Germans were pissed he had killed so many of them at Borodino, and then he lost at Leipzig. If you had said "What if Tsar Alexander surrendered at Borodino", then, that would make sense. Then, Napoleon can send a massive campaign into Spain and Portugal, maybe decisively kick the Brits in their pants, and suddenly, Napoleon can go back to building the massive army of his dreams. But, even if he won at Leipzig, it was already over. Napoleon couldn't sustain a conflict after he was first deposed. So, at Waterloo, Napoleon had already lost.

  • @AncientCultist
    @AncientCultist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    making an alternate timeline where Napoleonic France never fell is like making a timeline where the Empire of Brazil didn't collapse, you would have to distort a lot of historic events in favor of France or Brazil, as what condemned both was the path they chose.

  • @dead-ishchannel6212
    @dead-ishchannel6212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "What if Napoleon won at Waterloo?"
    Well, that's be a waterloophole!
    I'll close the door on my way out

  • @lary6420
    @lary6420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That moment you realize a joke in, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, was staring you strait in the face and you had no idea.

  • @neilc.8368
    @neilc.8368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IVE WAITED FOR THIS ALTERNATE HISTORY VIDEO FOR A LONG TIME

  • @010Jordi
    @010Jordi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There was no Belgium Back then and there were Dutch soldiers at Waterloo as that was in the Netherlands

  • @Soundwave3591
    @Soundwave3591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    What if Doggerland had remained above the ocean, linking the UK and Mainland Europe?

    • @DarDarBinks1986
      @DarDarBinks1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too implausible. All that water from the melting glaciers and icecaps has to go SOMEWHERE. It can't disappear into thin air. The law of conservation of matter is very clear about this.

    • @DankeDummkopf
      @DankeDummkopf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@DarDarBinks1986 Wouldn't be the first time Cody intentionally ignored how the planet worked in order to give a scenario a chance. Look at his videos about if Greenland and the Sahara were green.

    • @londegel
      @londegel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DarDarBinks1986 a french Guy called alterhis did it

    • @DarDarBinks1986
      @DarDarBinks1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DankeDummkopf I've seen the one about the Sahara before. That would at least make for interesting history. Perhaps Africa as a whole would have fared far better (i.e., no slave trade and colonization, or at least not so much).

    • @11Survivor
      @11Survivor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@londegel he also did the Napoleon thing first.

  • @gasmonkey1000
    @gasmonkey1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't know you were married, man! I'm glad you and your wife found each other!

  • @azankhan88
    @azankhan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Napoleon had divorced Josephine in 1798. History would be totally different.

  • @oscarbonnefon1076
    @oscarbonnefon1076 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have wanted this video for so long THANK YOU

  • @melchid8448
    @melchid8448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Why when something happens in Europe its always you three
    France,Germany,Russia

    • @tentathesane8032
      @tentathesane8032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Germany, having started the Protestant league, Marxism, both world wars and the Holocaust: *avoids eye contact and sweats nervously*

    • @melchid8448
      @melchid8448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tentathesane8032 Oh i guess you are right i will get the England out

    • @cherno_alpha7605
      @cherno_alpha7605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tentathesane8032 Germany never start WW1, Austria did

    • @joshua6rup
      @joshua6rup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cherno_alpha7605 Austria was very much considered a german state, as its inhabitants are all ethnically german.

    • @iplyrunescape305
      @iplyrunescape305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cherno_alpha7605 if you look at it deeper, it's Austrians that started both wars anyway.
      Austria declaring war on Serbia in WW1, and Hitler (an Austrian) taking power in Germany

  • @ninsegtari
    @ninsegtari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Napoleon took opium the night before Waterloo and actually overslept - which was very out of character for him. When he woke up, he took another hit and was way out of it during the battle. He had a lot of pain to deal with, hence the drugs. Had he not taken them, he probably would have won. Even with Napoleon high, the Battle of Waterloo was still a “near-run thing” according to the Duke of Wellington.

    • @acat6145
      @acat6145 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a weird excuse for why Napoleon didn’t win

    • @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000
      @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a nice myth to continue propagating

    • @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000
      @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@acat6145 He didn't win because, Blucher basically, Blucher was also a high reason why he lost at Leipzig
      There's a lot of reasons but at the end blucher arriving early and on time was the reason

  • @TheCrimsonS4ge
    @TheCrimsonS4ge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That ending was kind of anticlimactic, I thought that this would have ended in a Global French empire. Although it may just be that I’ve been playing so much Total War: Napoleon, that I’ve somehow got it mentally ingrained in my head that whenever there is an alternate history involving Napoleon, the ideal outcome would be a world map painted in French imperial blue.

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well honestly even with this anticlimatic ending, it just sounds wrong, Napoleon without Russia and with Spain dealt with more or less properly means the Grande Armée can actually rest and since its Napoleon it would reform 1806 style with hella loyal Marshalls who are also some of the most skilled of Europe by themselves, even without Napoleon the Marshalls alone loyal and at full strenght wouldve pushes back a few more coalition if they stayed on the defansive due to regency.
      It wouldnt be one hyper european power.
      But most Marshalls would probably get along if needed to both educate the young eagle properly (and the lil guy while most definitly not his father would learn from the best of the best in this term) etc...
      Honestly those what ifs are rly endless

    • @acat6145
      @acat6145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Freedmoon44 I mean the end result still kinda seems the same I don’t think Napoleon’s son could be the calibre necessary for keeping together France

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acat6145 i dont think it would end up like our world, not even close, the Grande Armée alone would make sure France stays together even with the rise of Nationalism, Napoleon's son may not have the talent of his father, but while it took a true genius to make France rise to this point only an incompetant would be able to let it fall once more without crushing losses, and considering Napoleon brought together an actual meritocracy his son would truly receive the knowledge from the best and at least stabilise the empire just by existing.
      The problem comes with HIS succession however, as it would be a time where Napoleon's legacy wouldve gotten to old to even advise and the french pride would likely lead it to its fall after a full reign starting with regency to get corrupt and rise tensions all around

  • @aaronTGP_3756
    @aaronTGP_3756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But hey, at least a lack of a catastrophic defeat would make the French willingly dub him "Napoleon le Grand".

  • @TeamKuukiFoodGames
    @TeamKuukiFoodGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The trouble with historians' perspectives on napoleon's condition at waterloo is that a lot of the "evidence" and testimonies of napoleon's character come from letters of people who eventually are revealed to have had some misgivings and bias against him.

  • @99unclesam17
    @99unclesam17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never invade Russia in the Winter unless you're the Mongols

    • @todd7383
      @todd7383 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mongolia themselves live in winter

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Waterloo, I was defeated you won the war! Waterloo, promise to love you for ever more

  • @beeptherobot9730
    @beeptherobot9730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Napoleon: *Wins at Waterloo*
    Also Napoleon: _your gonna have a bad time_

  • @Argentoratum68
    @Argentoratum68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    French Soldier : So we are at war with?
    Napoléon : *Y* *e* *s*

  • @croweman6515
    @croweman6515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know why, but it seems very poetic to me that Napoleon spent the rest of his life on a rock contemplating in his head what minor tactical change just might have achieved him victory at Waterloo.
    Sort of the perfect end, to the perfect drama, that was the life of Napoleon Bonaparte.
    Know What I Mean?

  • @angiki9988
    @angiki9988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Alright, but what if Napoleon III never fell?

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THAT is the REAL question to me. Unlike his uncle, Napoleon III was actually respected by some European courts (including Queen Victoria, who described him as a remarkably deep thinking leader). If he doesn't botch diplomacy with the Russians in the 1860s, there's a good chance Alexander II allies with him in 1870. Assuming the French and their ally Russia win, Napoleon III would be seen as a hero in France and his opponents ousting attempts likely all fail. He was ill by that time though, so that would mean Napoleon IV would come to power at just 17 years old in 1873. Assuming the dynasty survived a brief regency, the young prince turned Emperor would face a difficult situation. The Germans would likely still unite eventually despite their defeat (in fact, it might have given them extra motivation to do so), but also would hold a strong hatred of the French. They would want revenge, virtually guaranteeing World War I. Napoleon IV was said to not be a big fan of Britain, but likely would end up continuing the partnership out of necessity. There would be improvement in Austro-German ties plus France's warmer relations with Russia would quickly alienate the Ottomans. I honestly think World War I might have been even more vicious under this timeline. Assuming the Allies win still and Napoleon IV lived long, he would probably reign until the 1920s (nearly 50 years possibly). I'm not sure what happens after that, as the Bonaparte dynasty would have to survive both the Great Depression and World War II, which is far from a guarantee. It's fascinating to think about though.

  • @popgino3757
    @popgino3757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    What if the molten core reached the watter tanks at Chernobyl

    • @patrickcummins79
      @patrickcummins79 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thunderf00t already covered that.

    • @davidcarlson4958
      @davidcarlson4958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@patrickcummins79 yeah but thunderfoot sucks

  • @humbugswangkerton9972
    @humbugswangkerton9972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how you brought up his failing health.
    But I will say that I bet while the continental system would fall, much of Europe would have still been under France's sway such as Spain, Italy, the Lowland countries, and western Germany. One of France's most underrated strengths during Napoleon's time was that he appointed capable leaders based on merit that led to many of his victories on the battlefield. While there easily could have been a squabble for the throne, it is possible the tradition of merit before family ties could have kept France afloat given the rest of Europe was mostly behind in this regard.

  • @anthonyciccariello8089
    @anthonyciccariello8089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I accept your apology. I was just hoping you didn't stop making these quality TH-cam videos.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff

  • @anintellectual5068
    @anintellectual5068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    AlternateHistoryHub and Internet Historian make a video on the same day...
    Coincidence?
    I think not!

    • @olibearws
      @olibearws 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both are historians but very different types

  • @netrolancer1061
    @netrolancer1061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me: Sees a Napolean video about Waterloo.
    Me: Types up the song Waterloo by ABBA.

  • @Koala1203
    @Koala1203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What if 1755 Lisbon Earthquake never happened?

  • @Pertchak
    @Pertchak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “ Napoleon should have taken a defensive stance “.
    VERY debatable
    Napoleon just came back from Elba and needed money to gather an army.
    According to my research, The Whole coalition had 800 k men , Napoleon only around 300 k men. He needed time and money. Things he didn’t have. That s why he attacked at Waterloo.
    First : he needed to beat the allies alone , who were not gathered yes
    Second : he needed a big victory to regain trust from the bourgeois in order to lend money to create a bigger army.

  • @newsomberman4983
    @newsomberman4983 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has been here from the beginning, this Channel is one of the best out there.

  • @Bruh-ff2tw
    @Bruh-ff2tw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While France wouldn’t remain the master of Europe, I think the French empire may have survived at least 1 more generation. Napoleons brothers showed an eye for administration and would have been able to keep the empire together during the regency of Napoleon II. Speaking of Napoleon II, in our timeline the apple ended up falling not that far from the tree. He was a very competent military leader and administrator. Not on the same level as his father, but up there.

  • @mrsammyg3122
    @mrsammyg3122 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What if the Great Tartary survived?

    • @AndreaMoletta-s3c
      @AndreaMoletta-s3c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be a khanate of different nomadic tribes, like Mongolia or the Stans.

  • @BosonCollider
    @BosonCollider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is fine and dandy but it ignores one crucial event that *really* lost Napoleon the war against Britain: letting Robert Fulton go instead of funding his design for steamships and practical submarines.
    The French *had the inventor of the steamship working within its borders*, but Napoleon dismissed him and he left to build steamships in the united states instead. If he hadn't done that the French would have leveled the playing ground at sea in the long run by having a significant technological advantage over the British.

  • @Gstudios24
    @Gstudios24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone here after oversimplified did the Napoleonic wars

  • @TheGreatLlamaJockey
    @TheGreatLlamaJockey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You, armchair historian, Emp tiger star and the rest of the history channels should play risk. That would be fun to watch

  • @MrPolandball
    @MrPolandball 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    What if Ron Paul won the 2012 Republican primary?

    • @DefinitelyNotShane
      @DefinitelyNotShane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Too recent

    • @KonEl-BlackZero
      @KonEl-BlackZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What if Logan Paul prevented the suicide of that random japanese dude

    • @AdrianArmbruster
      @AdrianArmbruster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Obama wins reelection anyway, as before. Trump gets the nomination slightly easier come 2016 because it's proved that cranks from out of the party establishment can get the nomination based on a few slogans and a fervent base. That's... only slightly 'alternate' history. Can't imagine any game changing events to occur based on something so early.

    • @joltcoaming353
      @joltcoaming353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AdrianArmbruster I think Ron Paul had a good chance to win. People were already sick of Obama in 2012.

  • @insulindianmarechale
    @insulindianmarechale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "What if napoleon's empire never fell"
    Me:
    *tries my best not to make an AMLD reference*

  • @HolyShitNew
    @HolyShitNew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    as a german i like brazil
    to play against us

    • @ShinigamiInuyasha777
      @ShinigamiInuyasha777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an argentinian i agree

    • @seppoleonvervloet132
      @seppoleonvervloet132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd like Germany to lose to South Korea again

    • @HolyShitNew
      @HolyShitNew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seppoleon Vervloet as a north korean i cant agree

  • @EMbrokehp
    @EMbrokehp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you're forgetting the most glaring difference in a world in which Napoleon didn't lose at Waterloo.
    We would've lost a banger ABBA song.

  • @themattsterdn1824
    @themattsterdn1824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Napoleon came far closer to winning before his first abdication:
    The lack of Spanish resistance in the Peninsular War, Winter not coming as early in the Russia campaign, The Tsar surrendering at the loss of Moscow, or a victory at Leipzig could have all won him the war the first time around. His second coming to power was doomed from the start because the entirety of Europe united against him at one time, and even if he won Waterloo there would be no timeline where he could have still pulled through.