Yeah, I can only imagine. It had to be a rush topping out at 248 mph before they put the chicanes in to "slow" things down. Think about how fast those distance signs to the right hander at Mulsanne must have flashed by! The guy is on the brakes and running down the gearbox and is hoping someone didn't mess up the corner so he can jump on the throttle and start back up the gearbox.And you hope it didn't just start raining and you still have your dry tires on. You are so right they are some pretty special people that drive that race. Be well and safe, peace to you and yours.
How can you explain the live feeling of this kind of raw power (even just standing near such a car) to some kid in the future that only knows electic engines?
@@Ben_Chillin if you know old Porsche’s they used to have extremely long gears, i don’t think that the driver was inexperienced, those old gearboxes were just a pain the the ass
@@alexcawthorne811 Not just that but the 917 was notorious for having a hard gearbox to work with back in 1970. Combine that with a driver who doesn't want to damage it, yeah the gear changes are going to be slow.
I completely *agree.* It is so damn annoying to hear some useless jabber when these beautiful, rare engines are singing. It's not only racing videos either.. A few days ago, I watched a video about tanks, and I can't remember what type it was (maybe a king Tiger) ..and there was actually audio of it running that was a few years after the war. It was color, and with a very decent recording.. trouble was, the narrator wouldn't shut up until the scene passed. Bad production. This is a great vid. The engine speaks for itself, and speaks well.
Well, it's almost a year after my first comment and nothing has changed - I still try to listen to this veritable symphony on wheels as often as possible. Sorry my Italian friends, but there is no flat 12 Ferrari engine that comes close to replicating the incredibly strong, virile sounds produced by this Porsche flat 12. Simply wunderbar!
@@valeriotempesti3331 - The Mazda is too buzzy sounding for my likes, sounds more like a high performance weed wacker! I for one am glad those damn rotaries are gone as they were obnoxiously loud and very high pitched - very annoying for race fans to listen to for any length of time. That feeling was widespread so SCCA required a muffling system that was mandatory on the mix master Mazdas. The Porsche has a much more mechanical sound to it, almost harmonious and much nicer to listen to than the rotary engine.
@@sparkgrid I'd rather not say that as I respect and like many cars and many makes that fashioned a vehicle which made its mark on international racing history. For that matter, I like the 917-30 Can Am car more, not for the sound it made, but for the incredible level of destruction it dealt to ALL competition in the Can Am series! The Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe gets my nod for one of the best sounding engines as well as its achievement in capturing the World Manufacturer's Championship - the only American conceived and built vehicle to have done that.....to this very day! 🤠 🏆 🏁
I totally agree, madfzr. There are even official clips from manufacturers here where you can't hear the engine because it is drowned out by some synthesized rubbish "music".
The first time I saw one of these cars I was struck by how small they truly are. Just a pile of pipe welded together with a massive tire at each corner, covered with a bit of sexy fiberglass ... and that unforgettable, brutal engine in the center of it all. Those were better times gents, better times.....
I think you're technically correct, unless of course the car was driving in the direction of the earth's rotation. On the other hand Newton's Law could be wrong.
Sorry, I meant the only transmission sound that applies here is the speed of the shifts. If you were inside you would most likely hear the gear whine from the strait cut teeth.
maybe it is the drivers first time in the car, maybe it’s fresh rebuild and the mechanic told him to go easy on the gear box, who knows. But Past videos of the car you’ll hear fast shifts
@@fsca72 First time wouldn't matter and a worn gearbox would definitely need to be treated better than a rebuilt one. Other videos show that this car can in fact shift much faster and harder, however.
When I was a little boy playing with my toy race cars, this is the sound I had in my head. In my opinion, it's the absolute essence of what a racing car should sound like and after 50 years it's still gives me goosebumps. I've been fortunate in my life to have owned some really great automobiles. 440 SIX PACK Challenger, 427 Corvette, GT350 Shelby, lots of Porsche 911's, BMW M3 and M5 but nothing a normal person can buy comes close to a Porsche 917. I still can't get that flat 12 sound out of my head and hopefully never will.
Roy Webster You can actually buy a 917 replica from a shop in Australia that has the ORIGINAL 917 blueprints. AND its street legal too. Only problem is getting an original flat 12 engine(or build one if you have deep pockets. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/jfLntBaNcms/w-d-xo.html
You mean you didn’t have the wiggles back then? You’re talking to people who had the big red car when they were kids. They sang songs while in the big red car. The older kids in the 1920’s had a stick from a tree to play with, or rope. Half the children from the 70’s and 60’s died already from drug overdoses.
It´s almost mythical. My dad saw them in the 1000km of Buenos Aires of 1971 and he told me that the people backed off from the stands immediately after the cars made the first lap, they weren´t used to such beasts. Very nice takes!
I absolutely love how mechanical it sounds. Especially when changing gears, that nice long break of sound then anticipating the next gear and then it just roars back up. Makes it sound so good and mechanical. Just yes.
This brings back memories of going to Mosport in the 70's with my father. The sights, sounds, smells and sensations come flooding back...so awesome. Thanks!
I lived in Ohio back then and made regular rips to Mosport and Watkins Glen during the Can-Am series days. Never been anything like it to this day. We were at the Glenn the last year they allowed camping in the infield the year they torched the bus in the mud bog. Precious memories!
@@netcoyote9238 I live in Ontario and went to a ton of races at Mosport with my dad. About 10 - 12 years ago we watched the 24hr American Le Mans series. I love the sounds and smells of burning fuel. Even at 3am haha! What a great time.
I was barely old enough to drive and me and a buddy drove to Mosport in 73 to watch our first race - CanAm, won by Charlie Kemp in a 917-10 CanAm turbo. You're right about Moss Corner: the sound of 24 big block V8s (and a couple of flat 12s) roaring down the chute on the first lap is something I'll never forget!
Ian Parrish more terrible than the 80’s?? Where they took beautiful cars and chopped them down a third of th size/power because of government regulations?? Or better than the 90’s where it was no comparison?? Maybe you should try to consider the times...
I watched these cars race at Laguna Secs. The Can Am races. The 917 cars dominated. Completely. Standing at the fence in the Corkscrew the sound was unbelievable. The BANG! as the drivers downshifted through the Corkscrew and then the sound when they stomped on the gas coming out of turn 7 is an experience I will always remember. Thanks for posting this.
Spent many an afternoon at the Corkscrew. Unforgettable experience in any class but I can imagine what you're saying- it must have been spine tingling to hear and see a 917 slam through the drop.
Rarely do I feel compelled to thank a contributor, most channels ‘add’ to the images with unnecessary music or flash graphics. This time however the soundtrack is perfect Porsche. The editing is simple and effective. Thank you. That 917 is beautiful in so many ways. I was lucky to see one at Spa on a classics track day and your video echoes that perfectly. The sound is beautifully brutal, the car is alive. I wish I could like this video more than once, love it!
It mostly comes in the beautiful pale blue and orange Gulf colour. I really don't do advertising but in fairness to Gulf they kept writing big cheques for John Wyer in his bad years and when he conquered the world with the 917K he refused better offers from other sponsors. A true gentleman from the old school. And that is beside the haunting beauty of the 917K doing 200 mph down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans at night in the rain. They don't make cars like that anymore nor do they make drivers like that anymore either.
@@salazam well it´s a manual from 50 years ago with 50 year old technology so it probably shifts like shit. If the car could be shifted quicker than I assume he´s trying not to wear out the clutch and other parts more than necessary cuz that´s what happens on quick upshifts. I´m positive that it is in fact not broken
For those who don't know: This gearbox is an unsynchronized 5 speed. This means the driver has to rev match on up and downshifts. This is why the upshifts take long (he has to wait for the rpm to fall down to the value after the shift) and downshift require extra throttle (he has to up the rpm to the value after the shift).
@@FlyinBrian777 And no sense of fear. A lot of good drivers feared the car and few had the nerve to hold it at anything above 180 initially and 200 subsequently. The two problems were the first cars could do 230+ yet couldn't easily handle it (talk to Ritchard Attwood). When they got the aero sorted the next prodlem was the Engine grenading itself. Derek Bell was one of the few to top out at 240+ yet to do so was within 100rpm (not much in a race car) of being wrote off with the car. The 917 was and is a brilliant car, but the almost cavalier nature of the beast and those who drove it really makes modern sports pale in comparison. The 917 was a car that was never tamed. You respected it and it respected you.
@@picax8398 No expert, but when comparing Aston Martin DBR1 of 1959 (10 years earlier than the 917) the Porsche 917 and modern day competition cars. The 917 looks remarkably similar to contemporary racers whereas the Aston looks positively ancient.
The way the driver is up-shifting makes it sound as though the transmission is a school bus transmission, and mated up to a clutch that has no flywheel. I bet it's rather challenging to drive competitively.
It's an unsynchronized 5 speed manual gearbox, that means he has to rev match manually so he has to wait till the rpms drop to downshift same as with upshifts... he has to raise the rpms to shift up an gear.
The greatest car ever made. Pedro Rodriguez's win in the 1970 1000 Km at Brands Hatch is still considered to be one of the greatest motor races of all time where, after having to pit after being black flagged, he went on to win by an astonishing five laps in pouring rain leading a Porche 1-2-3-4 victory. The banshee wail of its air-cooled flat twelve on full war cry is the most beautiful sounding engine ever. (The one here is being treated gently just like the fifty year old lady that she is).
Wow, what a lovely car - and that sound is incredible. This to me was the golden age of racing, where it took a lot of skill and nerve to drive these things, with all inputs being manual - no paddle shifters, electric clutches, etc....
He's clearly being cautious changing gear though. 50 years ago that gearbox would have been getting far more abuse and it would sound even better. Though 50 years ago it only had to survive the race after that it didn't matter if it was knackered.
@@theant9821that gearbox these days worth $100,000s if not millions. also using 50+ year old gearbox technology so can never be too careful with the dodgy race worn gears and synchronizers
The thing about Porsche is that they've never been known for being the fastest cars, or particularly outstanding in any one specific category. They seem to be all about two things - class and perfect balance. They just drive so smoothly and feel like an extension of the driver's own body. I never quite got the value of that until the first time I drove an older 911. Most generally, I am a pony car and muscle car kinda guy that dabbles in old pickup trucks and vehicles with some oddities that amuse me like a VW Thing. I've never been much into brands or prestige or any of that. But there is something about a Porsche that commands respect in the fact that it's one of the few companies left that still puts a heavy focus on the experience the driver will have while operating it, while also making the vehicle a visual work of art. A friend of mine that used to work in the vintage racing circuit got me into Porsche, and I'll forever be grateful that he did. What a wonderful dream to chase.
I went from a 10.9 second Fox body Mustang to a heavily modded 1966 911, RSR body kit, turbo suspension and brakes, carbed 3.0SC engine with headers and cams, 1800lbs. The Mustang would plant you in the seat and keep you there up to 140, the Porsche? You had to be strapped in it was so tight in the twisties and stopped on a dime. Totally raw and amazing car! I miss it! Manual everything, total drivers car. Cornering was a little counterintuitive until you learned to use trailing throttle oversteer to your advantage, then lunch it and four wheel drift out of the corners like the rearend was mad at the frontend.
Everyone should be go there at Monza and hear those cars in real live.....you will never forget this moments....the best place is start finish and variante ascari....thx for bringing the sound to all other at home...❤👍🔥
Back in '76 my first car was a '66 Karmann Ghia.. "I liked it". My dad had a '65 Porsche 356c, a year later he got in a wreck in his car and donated the engine to mine....... then "I loved it".
Jeff Lee and you think they were beating Porsche in any kind of race? Don’t remember many stangs winning as many rally stages as Porsche pretty sure you ask anybody about racing in the 70’s and it’s all Porsche sorry to hurt your wittle feelings 🐒
Chett Smith they still have tons of personalities. You just have to find the right one for you. I love the Vulcan. It’s got tons of personality and it loves me back when I throw it into turns and give it the beans.
@@tumppu8570 - It's awful on GT Sport as well. It's got Ford Fiesta brakes and barely any downforce despite the massive wing. The Daihatsu Copen is more fun 😁.
A C I’ve never driven it in GT. But I can tell you it’s a lot of fun to drive and puts down a very respectable time at Imola. Second only to the 918 Spyder I was that day. P.S Brakes are carbon/carbon. They have to heat properly before they start working the best. Literally takes a warm up lap or two before you really start feel how good they are.
1965 - 1973 was the golden age for this types of race cars... Just see them and HEAR THEM!, my god... There will never be times like this in motorsport again.
@@THESLlCK the new cars that have dual clutch make it look easy. All these drivers are so much better than me. I find it hard to hit both clutch pedals at the same exact time.
I was lucky enough to grow up close to Road Atlanta. Many track days listening to a SINGLE Panoz LMP car was just orgasmic. You could hear every shift 1.5 miles away on the other side of the track. This brings back those days. Thanks. When you hear them running solo it’s just completely different sounds you can hear that we’re drowned out in races.
I lived near the Hockenheimring (before they made it gay) and on the weekends could hear the scream of the Formula cars or SBK bikes. I rode my bicycle through the woods once and tried to peek through the fence but you couldn't see anything. You sure could hear them though! I don't know about "orgasmic" though. That's kinda weird.
So pure, so natural, so dynamic, so flawless, so energetic, so precise, so i don't know if there is a word to describe it correctly, but this is sooooo sound!
Don't know why he shifts that slow? When gearbox is cold it might be a bit slow, but after some laps it should be as fast as anything. It might be just to be very gentle to it? But a driver of a caliber that puts him in that seat should be able to adapt and drive it smoothly and a lot faster than this, cause the rews drops like a stone, so nothing to wait for in that area.
I think that the driver it' obviously trying to preserve that jewel, not to force the Upshift to avoid a miss shift, braking early to stay behind the limit and opening gentle the throttle to avoid a spinout. He's not pushing the car to the limit. And it's quite understandable.
Can't beat the sound, our neighbor has a heavily modified 930 turbo Porsche he takes out for a Sunday morning drive every weekend and it sounds great like this going down the empty freeways
Have two lasting impressions - this thing’s alive (kind of at least) and definitely alien to this dull world. Huge respect for guys who actually raced these back then.
I think the first couple of minutes of driving the driver was being slow and careful with the shifts. Later the shifts become smoother and faster. The acceleration at 5:52 is fantastic.
I can’t even describe how in love with all types of cars I have been since I can remember when I got my first hot wheel. I currently have a 530 horse mustang GT with a bunch of custom parts, but hearing the sound of this car is just glorious to say the least… the Savage raw power is adrenaline pumping it really gets me hyped up right after I heard it, I went out and drove my car… thank you. It truly was a pleasure to experience, especially on a 60 inch television with Bose sound…
Such an iconic car I was at the Laguna Seca historic races, a few years ago. Porsche was the featured marque. There were several 917's there. The Penske/Donahue CanAm 917/30, was a flood of old days feelings. Current race cars are crazy fast.....but, sadly... lack the "soul" of the previous cars. I suppose that we can't go back....but for those of us, who experienced it, first hand. We have been truly blessed.
lmao ok then, with the big ass buldging 60's headlights and mirrors that look like they come from a pre 1900's doctors headpeice. Its called a classic because its a perfect remnant of the past. If you old eyes then it still looks new but a young child would know it was and old old car, the bubble windscreen gives it away
Hi Bozzy.👋 I'm back to give this 917 another viewing and wanted to drop you a few lines. While this car is dated in some regards, it is so timeless... still a great design after all these years.😍 This beast debuted just before I did, and I can assure you this Porsche has aged much more gracefully than your commenter.😜 I'm so happy you got the opportunity to record it again after a 6 year wait. Also, I agree with you on the conditions being ideal with a fairly empty track, we get to hear that raw, lovely flat 12 perform its 'concerto da solista'.😉 What a day you had, from waking up early to having such a wicked, iconic machine thumping your chest on a cold start. If we could all be so fortunate to have such a real-world alarm clock. Never apologize for spending too much time in the pits or garage, Bozzy. These moments are priceless and probably more rare than the on-track footage listed online. Well done as always... I applaud you, sir.👏 Have a great day!
I visited the Porsche factory in july of 1981. In the museum they had all the factory race cars on display. The 917 stood out from the rest of the race cars, absolutely stunning. In the mid 70's i went to a couple races that had 917's racing. The sound of that flat 12 cylinder engine was intoxicating!
I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to watch these cars race back in the day and being addicted to it. Then trying to watch today where the new cars are like robots. Ughhhh this is just astonishing sound and mechanics.
i always come back to this video for the purest of reasons. i love this sound and wish i could hear it in real life what a gem. keep her on the track sir she seems to scream happily
I love how this video is 9 minutes & 17 seconds long (917)
Ahhhh, i see what you did there👍👍👍
@A killa 4 reala ...HA, right
It's better than *PORN!*
Good eye
One of the first things I noticed! 👊🏻 Would've said it if you hadn't already
Now Imagine driving this down the Mulsanne Straight at 190+mph, at night, in the rain. Those drivers had nerves of steel!
More than 190, there rumors talking about 250 mph with qualy setup
They topped out at about 225 so definitely over 200 plus for over a minute on the Mulsanne straight.
Yeah, I can only imagine. It had to be a rush topping out at 248 mph before they put the chicanes in to "slow" things down. Think about how fast those distance signs to the right hander at Mulsanne must have flashed by! The guy is on the brakes and running down the gearbox and is hoping someone didn't mess up the corner so he can jump on the throttle and start back up the gearbox.And you hope it didn't just start raining and you still have your dry tires on. You are so right they are some pretty special people that drive that race. Be well and safe, peace to you and yours.
BIG Balls!
That's like saying imagine makinG love to a beautiful woman... You don't need nerves of steel to drive it.. You need them to not drive it!
i can appreciate the fact that you didnt "pollute" the audio with music. that thing sounds amazing
Bozzy never does that. Main reason this channel is so popular! agreed, amazing!
It is an engine sound video. Why would anybody in their right mind add music to it?
That is music.
Why would he do that?
@@amanagarwal6897 literally nobody does that what are you people smoking
The sound of the Porsche 917K : Simply Glorious. No matter how crappy you feel, listening to this will brighten your day 100%.
💯💯
I come back all the time to hear it
So true. I died last week. Someone showed this to me, and low and behold I live again!
sounds like trumpets. meh
Your cars needs a spoiler
but what if your whole car was a spoiler .
Result 917k
#SpoilerAlert
Emilio Hernandez your punny
I cant stand spoiled brats 😑
Spoiled milk
or ground effect f1 cars in that matter
Those downshifts should make the UNESCO world heritage list.
Random Dude underrated comment
Che macchina …… i prototipi del 70 erano affascinanti ( ho 63 anni percio’) gareggiavano con le Corvette , l’aereodinamica fatta auto😅
How can you explain the live feeling of this kind of raw power (even just standing near such a car) to some kid in the future that only knows electic engines?
@@yogioto Avete anche un po' rotto il cazzo con sta storia porcoddio
Underrated comment right there!
You win the internet!
That’s a 50 year old race car out there still kicking ass and taking corners.
Damn crazy to think that 1970 is nearly 50 years ago!
Kicking ass and taking names. Is that what you meant?. Which is from the military.
100 year old race car can kick ass and take corners as well!
@@kaj9134 hey... stop that kind of talk... I was born in 71
I bet more Porsche’s can do that
Those up and downshifts are some of the most aggressive noises I’ve ever heard come out of a car
That thing is freaking SICK ❗️❗️🔥
Too much money not to much skill? LFB? Lovely car.
The video is 9min17s long and it's about a 917....
Wow,looks suspicious!
@MajorLeague What's the difference?
oh yeah yeah
Somehow, very appropriate ... ;)
You seriously dont think bozzy didnt do that deliberately! He knows these things
The pause in sound when up shifting, the aggressive sound of down shifting under breaking...beautiful.
@@Ben_Chillin if you know old Porsche’s they used to have extremely long gears, i don’t think that the driver was inexperienced, those old gearboxes were just a pain the the ass
I think the gearbox needed warming up as well. The shifting got quicker the longer the video went on.
@@Ben_Chillin How experienced should you be with a car worth 10 million? It's not like it's his daily driver.
@@Ben_Chillin With all due respect it seems you know nothing about driving an old-school racing car...
@@alexcawthorne811 Not just that but the 917 was notorious for having a hard gearbox to work with back in 1970. Combine that with a driver who doesn't want to damage it, yeah the gear changes are going to be slow.
PLEASANTLY SURPRISED no pathetic music over the engine sounds, Bravo!!!👍👍
Other editors take note!!!
Now THAT would have been hard to do! (^_^)
would have been funny if music started just as the car started running
I completely *agree.* It is so damn annoying to hear some useless jabber when these beautiful, rare engines are singing. It's not only racing videos either.. A few days ago, I watched a video about tanks, and I can't remember what type it was (maybe a king Tiger) ..and there was actually audio of it running that was a few years after the war. It was color, and with a very decent recording.. trouble was, the narrator wouldn't shut up until the scene passed. Bad production. This is a great vid. The engine speaks for itself, and speaks well.
@MP Trolly McTrollerton, Don't worry little guy, someday your girlfriend will explain it to you and it will all make sense. You have a Splendid Day!😁👍
great point
Well, it's almost a year after my first comment and nothing has changed - I still try to listen to this veritable symphony on wheels as often as possible. Sorry my Italian friends, but there is no flat 12 Ferrari engine that comes close to replicating the incredibly strong, virile sounds produced by this Porsche flat 12. Simply wunderbar!
Rotary mazda 787b!
@@valeriotempesti3331 - The Mazda is too buzzy sounding for my likes, sounds more like a high performance weed wacker! I for one am glad those damn rotaries are gone as they were obnoxiously loud and very high pitched - very annoying for race fans to listen to for any length of time. That feeling was widespread so SCCA required a muffling system that was mandatory on the mix master Mazdas. The Porsche has a much more mechanical sound to it, almost harmonious and much nicer to listen to than the rotary engine.
@@Loulovesspeedjust say you're a Porsche diehard
@@sparkgrid I'd rather not say that as I respect and like many cars and many makes that fashioned a vehicle which made its mark on international racing history. For that matter, I like the 917-30 Can Am car more, not for the sound it made, but for the incredible level of destruction it dealt to ALL competition in the Can Am series! The Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe gets my nod for one of the best sounding engines as well as its achievement in capturing the World Manufacturer's Championship - the only American conceived and built vehicle to have done that.....to this very day! 🤠 🏆 🏁
@@Loulovesspeed I get your point, but then just say disliking the 787b is just your personal preference, cause it's glorious
Thank you for not posting music over this glorious 917K sounds
I second the motion.
I hooked the ph to my McIntosh pre through a pair of Krells and cranked this video!
The engine IS the music.
You must be new to this channel
I totally agree, madfzr. There are even official clips from manufacturers here where you can't hear the engine because it is drowned out by some synthesized rubbish "music".
Car: Porsche 917
Video Length: 9:17
Coincidence?
I THINK NOT
Oddly the first thing I noticed! Glad someone else did too :D
illuminati confirmed
Hahahahahahaha .
Hotel?
Trivago.
The first time I saw one of these cars I was struck by how small they truly are. Just a pile of pipe welded together with a massive tire at each corner, covered with a bit of sexy fiberglass ... and that unforgettable, brutal engine in the center of it all. Those were better times gents, better times.....
Yeah same for me, they're tiny!
Massive Engine, huge tires, not even any room for your feet, we hung them out over the nose.
Indeed
Better than now? Lol no
@@shmikeyify Yes, I think the mid-20th Century was a better time.
54 years old and still sounds better than 95% of modern cars
The car didn’t accelerate quickly. It just span the earth faster.
I like that😆😆
(spun)
@@daveogarf (fuck off)
Span. I love it haha
I think you're technically correct, unless of course the car was driving in the direction of the earth's rotation.
On the other hand Newton's Law could be wrong.
Very haunting at the empty track, like a ghost from the past, the sound, the sound, the sound WOW
I realized that also! It’s like going back in time, spooky yet magical 🧙♀️
keep it in your pants, buddy
Dude
Those shifts sound so brutal. Shows how far transmission engineering has come.
Do you not mean hasn't come ?
Transmission has nothing to do with the sound other than the speed of the shifts.
Sorry, I meant the only transmission sound that applies here is the speed of the shifts. If you were inside you would most likely hear the gear whine from the strait cut teeth.
maybe it is the drivers first time in the car, maybe it’s fresh rebuild and the mechanic told him to go easy on the gear box, who knows. But Past videos of the car you’ll hear fast shifts
@@fsca72 First time wouldn't matter and a worn gearbox would definitely need to be treated better than a rebuilt one. Other videos show that this car can in fact shift much faster and harder, however.
There is something immensely satisfying about the harmonics of that engine.
It’s musical!
Spectrefang .........does sound fantastic. Only one I like better is the 787b
Best sounding 12 cylinder engine ever made
Ferrari 641 takes some beating ;-)
It's purely transcending!
When I was a little boy playing with my toy race cars, this is the sound I had in my head. In my opinion, it's the absolute essence of what a racing car should sound like and after 50 years it's still gives me goosebumps. I've been fortunate in my life to have owned some really great automobiles. 440 SIX PACK Challenger, 427 Corvette, GT350 Shelby, lots of Porsche 911's, BMW M3 and M5 but nothing a normal person can buy comes close to a Porsche 917. I still can't get that flat 12 sound out of my head and hopefully never will.
Roy Webster You can actually buy a 917 replica from a shop in Australia that has the ORIGINAL 917 blueprints. AND its street legal too. Only problem is getting an original flat 12 engine(or build one if you have deep pockets. Check out this video
th-cam.com/video/jfLntBaNcms/w-d-xo.html
I am Trumps father hahah
Then youve never heard the Mazda 787b....
The only other engines that can rival the flat 12 Porsche were the Matra and BRM V12s, those were Stradivarius...
You mean you didn’t have the wiggles back then?
You’re talking to people who had the big red car when they were kids. They sang songs while in the big red car.
The older kids in the 1920’s had a stick from a tree to play with, or rope.
Half the children from the 70’s and 60’s died already from drug overdoses.
It´s almost mythical. My dad saw them in the 1000km of Buenos Aires of 1971 and he told me that the people backed off from the stands immediately after the cars made the first lap, they weren´t used to such beasts. Very nice takes!
it is mythical. magical. i get chills every time it passes the camera
Wow thank You for sharing! Very cool!
Fuckin A!
Awesome!
Ha-ha, great story!
One of the most brutal racecars ever made.
Thank you, and nice car
I absolutely love how mechanical it sounds. Especially when changing gears, that nice long break of sound then anticipating the next gear and then it just roars back up. Makes it sound so good and mechanical.
Just yes.
This brings back memories of going to Mosport in the 70's with my father. The sights, sounds, smells and sensations come flooding back...so awesome. Thanks!
I lived in Ohio back then and made regular rips to Mosport and Watkins Glen during the Can-Am series days. Never been anything like it to this day. We were at the Glenn the last year they allowed camping in the infield the year they torched the bus in the mud bog. Precious memories!
@@netcoyote9238 I live in Ontario and went to a ton of races at Mosport with my dad. About 10 - 12 years ago we watched the 24hr American Le Mans series. I love the sounds and smells of burning fuel. Even at 3am haha! What a great time.
I can still remember the sound of these 917’s coming out of Moss corner and up the back straight at Mosport. Absolute magic.
I was barely old enough to drive and me and a buddy drove to Mosport in 73 to watch our first race - CanAm, won by Charlie Kemp in a 917-10 CanAm turbo. You're right about Moss Corner: the sound of 24 big block V8s (and a couple of flat 12s) roaring down the chute on the first lap is something I'll never forget!
Or Edmonton 😉
If i win the loto ill build a track buy some cars and invite you all guys to race.
Rothschild killed JFK lessgoooooo
my brother from another mother 👍
Lesgettit
Yes! And I like your name
Do you have a plan on how you will get us to leave your track ?
Imagine the sound with 10-12 of these on the track!
Yes and with skilled drivers too...
the 70s were such a good time for cars man. so many cool designs.
Raúl must’ve looked like a spaceship to some people then...
50s through 70s, then the 80s and cocaine happened.
The 70's were a terrible time for cars...
Ian Parrish more terrible than the 80’s?? Where they took beautiful cars and chopped them down a third of th size/power because of government regulations??
Or better than the 90’s where it was no comparison??
Maybe you should try to consider the times...
@@WornDownSaint Maybe you should read the comment where I classed them together.
I almost cried...had a pure, raw, goosebumps moment. What a car, what a sound...
Sooooo right❗️❗️🥲👍☠️
I watched these cars race at Laguna Secs. The Can Am races. The 917 cars dominated. Completely. Standing at the fence in the Corkscrew the sound was unbelievable. The BANG! as the drivers downshifted through the Corkscrew and then the sound when they stomped on the gas coming out of turn 7 is an experience I will always remember. Thanks for posting this.
Jealous; very.
Very nice description. Must have been a brilliant thing to watch.
Spent many an afternoon at the Corkscrew. Unforgettable experience in any class but I can imagine what you're saying- it must have been spine tingling to hear and see a 917 slam through the drop.
For me it was Moss Corner at Mosport. I'll never forget the sound of the 917-30 downshifting into the hairpin then SCREAMING up the back straight.
Thx for sharing your memories
That distant flat-12 sound! It chills me to the bones 👍🏻🏎
Maaan. Makes me tear up
I have waited years for someone to record in this quality the best sounding engine ever produced. Thank you.
R u sure it's not the 787b
@@lucasvarville5431 The 787 was hardly memorable in my honest opinion, but I wouldn't discount that it was a stellar car in its own right.
im a Porschephile through and through but the v10 Ferrari sounds great too.
427 in the GT 40 for the win...
Don’t forget the bmw m1 procar
Rarely do I feel compelled to thank a contributor, most channels ‘add’ to the images with unnecessary music or flash graphics.
This time however the soundtrack is perfect Porsche. The editing is simple and effective. Thank you. That 917 is beautiful in so many ways. I was lucky to see one at Spa on a classics track day and your video echoes that perfectly. The sound is beautifully brutal, the car is alive. I wish I could like this video more than once, love it!
agreed, we all know where Pandora or similar is. Just give us content like this.
Laguna Seca Rennsport Reunion 2018. Several 917Ks Thru the Corkscrew!!
Nobody 49 years from now will be posting videos of electric race cars and saying ‘man, listen to that sweet sound!’
You damn right!!!!
People will still be posting the 917 when it's 100 years old though
100% agree!!!!!!
I mean people may not, but have you heard the Gen 2 Formula E cars? They sound pretty neat
You said it all
does it come in black?
yeah it looks like a batmobile haha
It did
they come up for sale every now and again, 15 to 20 million, if you buy you could probably put a black wrap on it without ruining the original paint
It mostly comes in the beautiful pale blue and orange Gulf colour. I really don't do advertising but in fairness to Gulf they kept writing big cheques for John Wyer in his bad years and when he conquered the world with the 917K he refused better offers from other sponsors. A true gentleman from the old school. And that is beside the haunting beauty of the 917K doing 200 mph down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans at night in the rain. They don't make cars like that anymore nor do they make drivers like that anymore either.
@@Patmofar have you seen Mclaren's new Gulf livery for the Monaco GP this weekend, look it up if you haven't!
that rear end is just soooo good, I just love how you can see those beefy tires from behind
Badonk
This moment of silence while shifting makes me feel goosebumps every freaking time
It’s just so enthralling
the sound of perfection arriving
👍
but why? Is it broken or is he just really slow at shifting?
@@salazam well it´s a manual from 50 years ago with 50 year old technology so it probably shifts like shit. If the car could be shifted quicker than I assume he´s trying not to wear out the clutch and other parts more than necessary cuz that´s what happens on quick upshifts. I´m positive that it is in fact not broken
You were not joking about demonic downshifts
pity the upshifts were sooooooooooooooooooooo boring
That was the perfect way to describe the sound. That thing is and angry beast. Such a beautiful sounding engine
@@SkengManNZ agree buddy... Maybe the owner ask him not to abuse it too much
For those who don't know: This gearbox is an unsynchronized 5 speed. This means the driver has to rev match on up and downshifts. This is why the upshifts take long (he has to wait for the rpm to fall down to the value after the shift) and downshift require extra throttle (he has to up the rpm to the value after the shift).
mrawesomelemons Thanks, I was literally just scrolling looking for an answer lol - Makes perfect sense now. 👍
The burp on the up shifts sooooo good 😌
The "burp" is from a perfectly tuned engine. The hot gases are burning in the exhaust tubing without ignition sourced, just flaming out. Awesome!
Hard to believe that 917s are fifty years old now!
Clarence Calkins to see how much racing has changed in the last 50 years
....and the men who drove these back then at 240 mph did it with no driver's aids. No computers, no traction control, etc.
@@FlyinBrian777 And no sense of fear. A lot of good drivers feared the car and few had the nerve to hold it at anything above 180 initially and 200 subsequently. The two problems were the first cars could do 230+ yet couldn't easily handle it (talk to Ritchard Attwood). When they got the aero sorted the next prodlem was the Engine grenading itself. Derek Bell was one of the few to top out at 240+ yet to do so was within 100rpm (not much in a race car) of being wrote off with the car. The 917 was and is a brilliant car, but the almost cavalier nature of the beast and those who drove it really makes modern sports pale in comparison. The 917 was a car that was never tamed. You respected it and it respected you.
@@picax8398 No expert, but when comparing Aston Martin DBR1 of 1959 (10 years earlier than the 917) the Porsche 917 and modern day competition cars. The 917 looks remarkably similar to contemporary racers whereas the Aston looks positively ancient.
@AlekZands Well, that was the plan!
This is better than a lullaby.
Also, points for the video being 9:17 long.
I never get tired of the Sound these Flat 12's make . Best sounding Engine ever made . Phenomenal Power too .
It’s crazy to see how effortlessly it takes corners at such speed. Truly a work of art
The sound is amazing. The car almost sounds "happy" to be stretching it's legs. Thank you for posting!
Growacet 100mg the car is very happy to be back at its favorite playground
"Stretching its legs"
More like burning its rubber.
Every car has a personality, race cars love doing what they're good at.
I love how this is a Porsche 917, and the video is 9:17 long.
I love how you copied the top comment
Brandon Lewis I love how you’re copying someone elses comment just to gain some likes. Your life ...
Should have commented this on 17th of September
Intentional?
4:51 that shift to pedal to the floor is literally the most disgusting engine noise ive ever heard(In a good way)
Taaha Hydrus because is ‘70 car? Just saying
Jesus fucking a popsicle...
how about th-cam.com/video/BmGgvHflXgc/w-d-xo.html
It is FANTASTIC!! The engineers creating the 917, the ultimate race car! Glorious!
6:38 - I was waiting for it to come sliding down the dirt track.
Loll me too!!
Me three
Me four
Me six!
Me seven!
The way the driver is up-shifting makes it sound as though the transmission is a school bus transmission, and mated up to a clutch that has no flywheel. I bet it's rather challenging to drive competitively.
It's an unsynchronized 5 speed manual gearbox, that means he has to rev match manually so he has to wait till the rpms drop to downshift same as with upshifts... he has to raise the rpms to shift up an gear.
mika brouns its the Other way around it’s easy to get confused
I would live to see the official technical specifications for this transmission. :-)
@@notabitchboy2150 oh okay thanks!
I was gonna say, those shifts are painfully slow by modern standards. But that gearbox is manual in every way.
70s and 80s - the coolest sports and race car era. Look at that shape, wheels and listen to the way the engine sounds
I can't think of a word that describes how absolutely awesome that flat 12 sounds. It's a land based rocket ship on wheels.
The look and sound of a 917K never gets old 👍
Not even 50 years old :)
Looks half assed if you asked me.
@@avg89able what? LOL
The greatest car ever made. Pedro Rodriguez's win in the 1970 1000 Km at Brands Hatch is still considered to be one of the greatest motor races of all time where, after having to pit after being black flagged, he went on to win by an astonishing five laps in pouring rain leading a Porche 1-2-3-4 victory. The banshee wail of its air-cooled flat twelve on full war cry is the most beautiful sounding engine ever. (The one here is being treated gently just like the fifty year old lady that she is).
@@Patmofar I agree Pedro was a excellent driver. Porsche owned the tracks in the 70's and there is nothing like the sound of a flat 12 boxer!!!
Wow, what a lovely car - and that sound is incredible. This to me was the golden age of racing, where it took a lot of skill and nerve to drive these things, with all inputs being manual - no paddle shifters, electric clutches, etc....
Nice to hear real shifting. We're so used to hearing the snappy paddle shifting now, we forget what the real thing sounds like!
Ok boomer
@@maziu27 Not ok coomer!
He's clearly being cautious changing gear though. 50 years ago that gearbox would have been getting far more abuse and it would sound even better.
Though 50 years ago it only had to survive the race after that it didn't matter if it was knackered.
@@theant9821that gearbox these days worth $100,000s if not millions. also using 50+ year old gearbox technology so can never be too careful with the dodgy race worn gears and synchronizers
The thing about Porsche is that they've never been known for being the fastest cars, or particularly outstanding in any one specific category. They seem to be all about two things - class and perfect balance. They just drive so smoothly and feel like an extension of the driver's own body. I never quite got the value of that until the first time I drove an older 911. Most generally, I am a pony car and muscle car kinda guy that dabbles in old pickup trucks and vehicles with some oddities that amuse me like a VW Thing. I've never been much into brands or prestige or any of that. But there is something about a Porsche that commands respect in the fact that it's one of the few companies left that still puts a heavy focus on the experience the driver will have while operating it, while also making the vehicle a visual work of art. A friend of mine that used to work in the vintage racing circuit got me into Porsche, and I'll forever be grateful that he did. What a wonderful dream to chase.
This is the one that was the fastest. over 230mph from what engineers clocked. The beast that ate em all
Your a complete moron....
The Answer of the 1970 years in Le Mans was clear he was ithe Fastest .And the Ingeneer Piech he constructed the Motors was an Genie!
I went from a 10.9 second Fox body Mustang to a heavily modded 1966 911, RSR body kit, turbo suspension and brakes, carbed 3.0SC engine with headers and cams, 1800lbs. The Mustang would plant you in the seat and keep you there up to 140, the Porsche? You had to be strapped in it was so tight in the twisties and stopped on a dime. Totally raw and amazing car! I miss it! Manual everything, total drivers car. Cornering was a little counterintuitive until you learned to use trailing throttle oversteer to your advantage, then lunch it and four wheel drift out of the corners like the rearend was mad at the frontend.
You’ll have one soon
You can be two hours late for work, and arrive ten minutes early with this 😂
That's what ur mom said to ur dad
@@George_Sorvey At least he has a dad.
One of the best sounding cars I’ve ever heard
Amazing rasp
Some writer described it as a " glorious cacophony " I think
zonda cinque??
Gt40 Mk2?
787b?
Absolutely love that flat 12 sound. Especially going thru the gears.
Everyone should be go there at Monza and hear those cars in real live.....you will never forget this moments....the best place is start finish and variante ascari....thx for bringing the sound to all other at home...❤👍🔥
That sound echoing through the trees....shivers up my spine....
imagine how wildlife feel, pig human.
This was the golden era for Porsche. I've loved Porsche since I was a teen. I used to have a 914. Thanks.
Back in '76 my first car was a '66 Karmann Ghia.. "I liked it". My dad had a '65 Porsche 356c, a year later he got in a wreck in his car and donated the engine to mine....... then "I loved it".
Cymon Cyrado Funny-in ‘76 I bought a ‘66 912! Had it 4 yrs, loved it!! Saw a 917 on 3rd st in LA in 75 or 76. Back then was prob not a kit car🤷♂️🏆
I had a 924,....she was a bit underpowered but so fun to drive. It was on rails in the corners!
Jeff Lee a 70’s v6 mustang? No sorry took Ford 40 years to catch up you say?
Jeff Lee and you think they were beating Porsche in any kind of race? Don’t remember many stangs winning as many rally stages as Porsche pretty sure you ask anybody about racing in the 70’s and it’s all Porsche sorry to hurt your wittle feelings 🐒
Before computers when cars had personality
Absolutely love this !!!
Chett Smith they still have tons of personalities. You just have to find the right one for you. I love the Vulcan. It’s got tons of personality and it loves me back when I throw it into turns and give it the beans.
Chloe Hennessy give it the beans in gran turismo lol we know you don’t have a vulcan in real life
Tumppu Okay. You’re entitled to think whatever you like. 👍🏻
@@tumppu8570 - It's awful on GT Sport as well. It's got Ford Fiesta brakes and barely any downforce despite the massive wing. The Daihatsu Copen is more fun 😁.
A C I’ve never driven it in GT.
But I can tell you it’s a lot of fun to drive and puts down a very respectable time at Imola. Second only to the 918 Spyder I was that day.
P.S
Brakes are carbon/carbon. They have to heat properly before they start working the best. Literally takes a warm up lap or two before you really start feel how good they are.
I’m the furthest thing from a Porsche guy you’ll find, but that may be the greatest noise I’ve ever heard.
1965 - 1973 was the golden age for this types of race cars... Just see them and HEAR THEM!, my god... There will never be times like this in motorsport again.
250LM, 330P3/4, the big Fords, the 917, the 312PB and finally the 512. Wonderful days. In later years, an honourable mention for the 787B...
917k were only raced till 72 when regulations changed for 73’.
You're a very lucky man Bozzy. Thank you for all the great videos you post i know a lot of us really appreciate it.
Hell yeah we do! I wish that I could just lounge around Monza, or Imola with my son. Listening to racecars rush by.
Nate M there are a lot of commenters to be fair. And he actually replied once to a comment of mine.
So what if he doesn't respond? He's doing God's work man. I'm really thankful.
Here, here. Bozzy is the man, so grateful.
No hybrid systems, no electric bs, no dual clutch, just some raw old school power with a manual.
Yep , the good old days , sadly missed .
dual clutch sounds fun
@@THESLlCK it just means your car has two clutch pedals and you have to hit both of them when you shift gears
@@lordshu007 definitely what that means lol
@@THESLlCK the new cars that have dual clutch make it look easy. All these drivers are so much better than me. I find it hard to hit both clutch pedals at the same exact time.
A true icon. A true porsche and A TRUE CARPORN. 917 is the only iconic car I love the most because just see it. Feel it and hear it
I was lucky enough to grow up close to Road Atlanta.
Many track days listening to a SINGLE Panoz LMP car was just orgasmic.
You could hear every shift 1.5 miles away on the other side of the track.
This brings back those days. Thanks.
When you hear them running solo it’s just completely different sounds you can hear that we’re drowned out in races.
I lived near the Hockenheimring (before they made it gay) and on the weekends could hear the scream of the Formula cars or SBK bikes. I rode my bicycle through the woods once and tried to peek through the fence but you couldn't see anything. You sure could hear them though!
I don't know about "orgasmic" though. That's kinda weird.
So pure, so natural, so dynamic, so flawless, so energetic, so precise, so i don't know if there is a word to describe it correctly, but this is sooooo sound!
Those downshifts make me require a moist towelette.
Justin Pritchard thanks for the laugh lmfao
Fantastic statement sir
I'm totally stealing that phrase btw!
They make my dry towelette moist.
Was going to post similar, well done sir.! Hard to explain that sentiment to non gearheads but I feel at home here!
The old manual upshift seems to take an eternity compared to new sequential gearboxes. Total respect for this Old Dog. Great car, Great video.
Mike Triolo not in the right hands. P Rodriguez takes the same time like the new sequential gearboxes.
Don't know why he shifts that slow?
When gearbox is cold it might be a bit slow, but after some laps it should be as fast as anything.
It might be just to be very gentle to it?
But a driver of a caliber that puts him in that seat should be able to adapt and drive it smoothly and a lot faster than this, cause the rews drops like a stone, so nothing to wait for in that area.
he can't shift. That's the problem.
I think that the driver it' obviously trying to preserve that jewel, not to force the Upshift to avoid a miss shift, braking early to stay behind the limit and opening gentle the throttle to avoid a spinout. He's not pushing the car to the limit. And it's quite understandable.
@@REDxFROG and you can?
Each shift sounds like the engine taking a breath after screaming down the track. Truly amazing
Can't beat the sound, our neighbor has a heavily modified 930 turbo Porsche he takes out for a Sunday morning drive every weekend and it sounds great like this going down the empty freeways
One of the few sounds that sends a chill up my spine. And warms my heart every time I hear it !
You beautifully captured the audio/visual essence of this car. Thank you.
Have two lasting impressions - this thing’s alive (kind of at least) and definitely alien to this dull world. Huge respect for guys who actually raced these back then.
“Sir you’re mounting those seats upside down.”
“I know”
Might be the purest sound I’ve ever heard in a car
I think the first couple of minutes of driving the driver was being slow and careful with the shifts. Later the shifts become smoother and faster. The acceleration at 5:52 is fantastic.
How the heck never heard something quite like this car.
Goose bumps. That sound demons and angels fighting.
I can’t even describe how in love with all types of cars I have been since I can remember when I got my first hot wheel. I currently have a 530 horse mustang GT with a bunch of custom parts, but hearing the sound of this car is just glorious to say the least… the Savage raw power is adrenaline pumping it really gets me hyped up right after I heard it, I went out and drove my car… thank you. It truly was a pleasure to experience, especially on a 60 inch television with Bose sound…
8:00-8:15 could listen to that on a loop for hours
same dude
eargasm
Such an iconic car
I was at the Laguna Seca historic races, a few years ago.
Porsche was the featured marque.
There were several 917's there.
The Penske/Donahue CanAm 917/30, was a flood of old days feelings.
Current race cars are crazy fast.....but, sadly... lack the "soul" of the previous cars.
I suppose that we can't go back....but for those of us, who experienced it, first hand. We have been truly blessed.
the fact that this thing is half a century old is insane
Great vid. No music, no rapid edits, no commentary. I could loop this as ambient noise while I'm in my cubicle. Thanks for the upload.
50 year old car that makes modern cars look 50 years old.
lmao ok then, with the big ass buldging 60's headlights and mirrors that look like they come from a pre 1900's doctors headpeice. Its called a classic because its a perfect remnant of the past. If you old eyes then it still looks new but a young child would know it was and old old car, the bubble windscreen gives it away
@@KickazzStudios
A young child who saw a Porsche 917 is more likely a shout WOW in astonishment.
Hi Bozzy.👋 I'm back to give this 917 another viewing and wanted to drop you a few lines. While this car is dated in some regards, it is so timeless... still a great design after all these years.😍 This beast debuted just before I did, and I can assure you this Porsche has aged much more gracefully than your commenter.😜 I'm so happy you got the opportunity to record it again after a 6 year wait. Also, I agree with you on the conditions being ideal with a fairly empty track, we get to hear that raw, lovely flat 12 perform its 'concerto da solista'.😉 What a day you had, from waking up early to having such a wicked, iconic machine thumping your chest on a cold start. If we could all be so fortunate to have such a real-world alarm clock. Never apologize for spending too much time in the pits or garage, Bozzy. These moments are priceless and probably more rare than the on-track footage listed online. Well done as always... I applaud you, sir.👏 Have a great day!
A great advertisement for why we need racing cars with real engines!
Literally one of the best motor based TH-cam videos ever. Amazing sound.
It would be very hard to climb back in a domestic vehicle after driving the 917.
A Leer jet would seem boring.
Put me in a P1 and I’d make a toddler at a mall stare in amazement at the spectacle
I wouldn't, I'd tie myself in the car and barricade the door shut
This car would get a Tesla pregnant.
Imagine THAT baby
@@beeeennnnnnn No need to imagine. It's the 919.
And the baby would be electric beetle I'm afraid.
Quote of the century.
@@randomnickify Yeah, if the baby has downs syndrome.
I visited the Porsche factory in july of 1981. In the museum they had all the factory race cars on display. The 917 stood out from the rest of the race cars, absolutely stunning. In the mid 70's i went to a couple races that had 917's racing. The sound of that flat 12 cylinder engine was intoxicating!
One of the sweetest sounds ever: the 917 going flat out on the Mulsanne Straight in the McQueen movie "Le Mans:"
4:49
That up-shift had striked me goosebumps. It's the best sound ever.
To this day and after 50 years have passed, this car looks great and still does not look out of date.
Everything was more intense in 1970, more exciting. No electronic distractions. It's good to see and hear this survivor.
"why yes I have things to do"
*Opens TH-cam and watches this*
Time well spent.
Please NEVER apologize for NOT cutting/ editing! Thanks so much for an awesome video!☮
I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to watch these cars race back in the day and being addicted to it. Then trying to watch today where the new cars are like robots. Ughhhh this is just astonishing sound and mechanics.
i always come back to this video for the purest of reasons. i love this sound and wish i could hear it in real life what a gem. keep her on the track sir she seems to scream happily