I like the emphasis on interoperability with the Apple ecosystem. I've already got a PSVR2 for games, so I've been watching what Apple does with whatever the Vision (non pro) turns out to be. If they do too little to address the criticisms people have with the AVP (price, comfort, etc), I might look into a Pico 4U. I travel a lot, so I want to start taking spatial photos/videos ASAP and have a space to manage them.
you can add a usb c adapter and add like 20 add ons onto the headset . this plus the ability to connect the headset then with a passthrough charger and or a lan cable adapter makes it INSANE and no one talks about it , i saw like 1 video about it . but its a bit tacky to use with cable like that i guess
Fantastic and thank you. We own a few pico4 for our arcade in Australia And looking forward to the Ultra. I’ll be in Japan in early October so I hope to try first hand unless they are avail globally by then. Great review
Yes I absolutely I cam considering buying this product knowing that I am in Saudi Arabia. Just one question these multi windows are supported when connect it to PC. I need it for productivity purposes.
I know a lot of people out there want "affordable" standalone headsets, although it would be nice to see more dedicated PCVR headsets in the $1k+ range that are compatible with SteamVR base stations/controllers.
@@eminem0601, while it'd be nice if the Pico 4 Ultra could do 120hz, saying it's bad for PCVR at 90hz is nonsense. The Pico 4, which also runs at 90hz, and it's very popular as a PCVR headset.
@@eminem0601 No it doesn't. Yes 120hz is better, if your PC is highend enough, but 90hz is certainly more then enough (as long as it maintain that framerate without frame drops).
Pancake lenses are same as PICO 4. For tracking vloume, I guess new iTof sensor will help while Quest 3 use structure light. I haven't try it yet. Do you have any suggestions on methods for measurement and comparison?
@@melodyyin I was hoping the pancake lenses would be better than Quest3's which has less distortion than the P4. To test the tracking move your controllers around your body slowly, then when you lose tracking you'll know where the edge/limit of the tracking volume ends. If you move too fast it will rely on the gyro which is approximate.
@@melodyyin There is a chance the lenses were improved since the Pico 4. I hope so for you, because the Quest 3 lenses are much, much superior than Pico 4's. No need to put bigger resolution if optic blur everything.
Wow, I thought they weren't shipping until September 2nd. Can the Chinese model be configured for other regions so it uses the correct app store? Thanks!
@@raeldor The domestic version is different from globe one. if you buy PICO 4 in other countries the store use visa for payments (So it works when it is globe version) In China PICO store it use wechat pay and so on
@@melodyyin By version she means the software side, I've changed my Pico4pro purchased in China, to international version, so you can pick the store you want to use locally with. A better option. Chinese version in English is waste of time for international users. However i will wait until someones uploads the firmware before I go get an Ultra so I can play Walk about mini golf with my Son at same time!
As you said. I want that OS integrated into the current PICO 4. But I understand the limitation of the PICO 4 hardware might not be suitable for that experience
I guess it will be placed in the laboratory function, I heard a lot of feedback about it these days. The new functions will help PICO4 become more competitive. After all, Quest is going to release a cheaper version soon.
why would you replace it for this overpriced crap? It is the same headset with a better camera. You will hardly see any benefit from the new chip and ram, because even pico 4 applications suck in resolution. Developers don't care, software is crap in the pico system.
@@KoRNeRd May I ask what exactly is bad with the software, the developer and the OS? I'm really eager to know the objective evaluation based on facts that you mentioned.
Thanks for the English video. I have the Pico 4 Pro which has eye tracking and also has the body trackers. The only thing attractive about the Ultra is the multi window feature and the environments. I wish Pico would bring that to the Pico 4 Pro.
And ofcourse the much faster CPU/GPU with sharper images as it is rendered an a much higher resolution as the regular pico 4, also the much better 4 microphones, dual camera's and 'depth'sensor. And the ring-less controllers. BUT, the pro has the eyetracking...
Pico4 Ultra will be a great product for sure and probably I would buy it on Amazon when it appears 😊 But also I want to try the new pico motion tracker, that seems like a good immersive product for VR 🤩
One of my favorite thing this day is playing Tempoclub. You must have try. Now the 2nd motion tracker will be the gift when you pre-order PICO 4 Ultra in China. I hope it will be the same in oversea market~
I have a Pico 3 NEO LInk, Pico 4 and Quest 2 and 3. The Pico 4 Ultra is a good headset, but for me personally there are major downsides: a) the visual quality of the displays are better on Quest 3, since the Pico 4 Ultra uses the same lenses/displays as Pico 4 b) the Quest 3 supports additional 80Hz and more important 120Hz c) i have more comfort options for the headstrap and additional batteries on Quest 3 d) i can use Quest Pro controllers, which track themselves, even behind my back e) i can have 512 GB of storage, which is needed if you do want bigger games to run and also do recording videos a lot All of these are very personal and do not change the fact that the Pico 4 and Pico 4 Ultra are good headsets.
The front cameras are much larger on the Ultra, compared to the base Pico 4. However more data leads to more latency, if processing is not leveraged more so as well. I know for a fact passthrough image is much better on the Ultra, to even advertise AR. To anyone who has actual hands-on; How is the delay/reaction time, and the dim environment noise, for passthrough?
I have the impression that it is more of a competitor for Apple's headset than for the meta Quest three. If you want gaming and a large panel of expériences on vr , for me the best head set is still the quest 3 . I see that the pico ultra is better, just if you want to work, do multitasking or fitness.
Actually, They are two sides for headset. One is ultimate home-entertainment, one is efficient production（which will have more potential buyers). For me, I think the Playing is more important than work (I'm fed up wit job.Human should try the best to reduce the work)
Thank you for making this English video. Your English is very clear and easy to understand. I think Pico should reduce the price to reach more people and especially the USA market with the dominance of Meta. And did you make a visual comparison with the Quest 3 ? There is the statement that the Quest 3 delivers a better picture than the normal Pico 4 ! I can't judge that, as I have the Pico Neo 3 Link.
@@melodyyin I'm really looking forward to the comparison, which is of course always subjective, but at least it gives me an indication of whether there are any major differences 👁
Don't really care about on-board hardware, since 99% of VR I do is PC VR, running heavily modded Skyrim VR, Blade and Sorcery VR, Fallout 4 VR, Half-Life:Alyx, etc. I really care about controller tracking - precision, smoothness, angle, view angle. If I stab an enemy through the visor of a helmet with a rapier, I'd better not miss because of tracking issues. I have Quest2, and tracking precision is far from stellar. I do dig the full body tracking though - it's great in games like Blade and Sorcery. Does it have full hand tracking, AR functionality like Quest3?
I'll be buying it soon as I can, but I wish it had 512GB storage vice 256. I'll have to manage the storage better (currently have 40gb left on my pico 4)
I love my Pico 4 and I am interested in this new one. What's great aside from the upgrades over the old one, the design is the same, which means most accessories can just be reused for the new one, I dont have to pay anything else with regards to accessories.
Hi Melody. Thanks for the review. If you have ANY influence whatsoever, could you please join me and others to push these VR makers to provide a direct DisplayPort connection. Not a USB-C Compressed connection? This for gamers who want the most possible fidelity of their gaming experience on PCs. It's too bad this can't be an option, as some of these headsets' 'other' features are appealing for other use-cases as well. They just don't address the core gamer crowd in PC. Only a few headset makers do, and at that, there's not a lot of modern VR headsets (besides maybe PIMAX) that's sticking to this. But PIMAX has its 'other' issues too.
Wireless 7 is a huge plus as it enables wireless streaming from PC at a pretty good bitrate. If it had OLED screens I would definitely buy one. Not much point to having better machinery driving crappy cheap screens though. I'll stick with my original Quest for standalone and I have my Bigscreen Beyond for PC gaming.
@@KoRNeRd www.qualcomm.com/products/mobile/snapdragon/xr-vr-ar/snapdragon-xr2-gen-2-platform "With support for the latest Qualcomm FastConnect, users will experience lag-free and shared XR experience with ultra-fast Wi-Fi 7 and Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 and 5.2 wireless connectivity for 60% higher throughput2 and 80% lower latency2."
Not taking sides, but here's a clearer conparison regarding the points shared in this video: 1. P4U have AI generated virtual environment (but only limited to 3 free ones). Q3 multiple choices of virtual environment, in addition to that, there're also vast amount of virtual environment created by community that can be added via sidequest, such as Rick's (from Rick and Morty) garage, Star Wars locations, City 17 Alley (from Half Life Alyx), Konoha (from Naruto), etc. 2. Hardware is just on paper specs, I agree, certain aspect is without doubt better, such as having 45w fast charging, but others, such as having Wifi 7 and more RAM, I doubt it makes any noticeable difference to general consumer. 3. Multi-window, 20 multi-window sounds great, but need to elaborate, what window is supported? In the video we mainly see 1x browser, 1x tiktok app (android app), 1x android app (chinese video streaming app), 1x Pico app store, etc. Does it support multi-window browser? Does it support non-chinese video streaming app such as Netflix, TH-cam, etc? Because that's what Q3 excels (example: I have 1x window browser running netflix, 1x youtube vr app in window mode, 1x window browser running Google Sheet/Doc to do my work, 1x window browser on Wikipedia finding info that I need), I don't need to switch back and forth between browser tabs, instead I have multiple browser windows. 20 multi-windows but mainly for Android apps and only 1 window for each app, is not that useful tbh. 4. Installing apk is much easier on Pico platform, this I agree. Doesn't mean Quest can't do it, just involve extra steps. This point is in favor of Pico if you are a user who constantly need to sideload apk. Though, I don't think the general consumer would be constantly wanting to sideload apk 😅 5. Ability to capture spatial video, another point I agree, tbh Q3 also can but not natively, need to go through developer settings. Though, I don't think Spatial Video is a thing yet, ask those that own the latest iphone, how many of them actually record spatial video? Not many tbh, maybe in the future, I'm not sure. 6. Full body tracking via the tracker, out of all the points mentioned, this is the point I strongly agree on which in reality and from a general consumer pov, is a strong win for P4U, especially for the VRChat community. 7. Ability to bring up 2D floating window in VR game, this is nothing new, Q3 also able to do this.
Thanks for your comment! ❤ 1. I have not try it in Sidequet. I will check it later to see if the UGC virtual environments have better effects 3. PICO support multi-window Browser and PC Streaming. You need open the new window in Browser App (maximum is 5). You can also install webapp via browser for more than 5 windows PS. they have TH-cam App in PICO Store.
I wish they did something about the terrible face interface that leaves a sharp mark on your face just after an hour of usage. I think it's designed only for Chineese peoples face. Also my Pico 4 has lots of glares which really annoys me. For a period of time I thought it was normal because of the pancake lenses but later I got my quest 3 and realized it wasn't true. Quest 3 has the pancake lenses and there is almost no glares. My pico 4 probably is a faulty one which makes me nervous about getting the new Pico if it ever arrives in my country.
What is this glare thing ? I heard about it often. Is light coming int the VR from the sides or is it a problem with these pancake lenses ? The Pico Neo 3 Link has other lenses and i have no problems with a bad picture impression. So can someone explain the "glare" problem ?
It's some kind of reflection of bright objects displayed in your vision. For example, on the pico home screen you see the controllers you are holding which are bright white. But you also see some blur reflection of the controllers on upper part of your vision which distracts you and prevents having a clear sight. As far as I know, it caused by the light reflecting between the layers of pancake lenses which could be eliminated using some kind of coating on the lens surfaces. I don't think pico neo link has pancake lenses, so it's normal you don't have glares.
@@mray3308 YES the Pico Neo 3 Link has these bigger lenses with grooves and is fine with no glare. I also heard that the Pico 3 series was made from other company and is a bit different in tec work. Not sure if this info is right ? Maybe the earlier Pico units are made a bit better and for Pro users ?
TBH, I don't say Pico is bad, but the one and only reason that stops me from considering Pico is because of the games... The Pico game library is way too small compared to Meta. I looked for "Green Hell" and it's outdated in Pico, I looked for "Medieval Dynasty" and it's not even in Pico.
PICO is investing in self-developed games. For example, Tempoclub is an exclusive one. I hope that there will be more VR games in the future.However, PICO basically has all the top games that Meta has, and the game price is cheaper in PICOstore. I'm not sure how the prices compare to Meta in other countries. If anyone knows, please tell me！
I've got a PSVR2 and I don't think I could switch to Quest for games. Bigger library and pancake lenses, sure, but terrible visuals and no immersive hardware features. I might consider a Pico 4U for the better battery, pass-through, and interoperability with apple products.
@@4theluvofmusic I have no clue about the PSVR2 as i am new to VR and i like it a lot AND i like that the Pico unit is good to wear and well balanced and Chinese hightec is not bad, it is in some cases better then the mainstrem units.
Great video, but there is one big mistake: you don't need adb or dev mode to sideload APKs onto Quest... you can use the Mobile VR Station method on a totally non-dev Quest.
@@melodyyin I don't care about the Ultra, why would anyone in their right mind buy anything from pico when they saw the software in pico 4 vs quest 2 and 3. The most important thing in the headset are the panels and lenses and they are the same, who would pay double for a passthrough camera, which is hardly used??? The most important thing is this: the software updates are long ago ready and they still have not released them for the standard pico4.
And you're trying to say that you will want to force Pico 4 Ultra to not exist forever simply because you think that you have this dumb reason you came up? Cause it sounds like you are!
@@elite-forcecinema1788 Bro just because I don't see the value in spending more for less appealing software doesn't mean I'm against it. I'm just being a smart consumer and choosing what works best for me. If you want to pay more for hardware that offers only minor improvements, that's your choice.
And why do you think that nobody cares about it? Is it because you think that Pico 4 sucks simply because you think that it is cancer and that you think that you will need to force Pico 4 to go d*e as a thing, like, right now, FOREVER, or not?
5 Reasons why Quest 3 is better than Pico 4 Ultra: 1.) Handtracking 2.) Software in Store 3.) Software-Sytem Support/Upgrades 4.) USB-OTG Support 5.) Data privacy! I recommend the Quest 3🙂👍
1.) How do you know the hand tracking is bad? Have you tried the new OS? 2.) There is actually more content in the PICO store, unfortunately it's lacking some exclusives. 3.) What's wrong with PICO'S software support? 4.) PICO has USB-OTG too. 5.) Data privacy on a meta headset? 😂😂
Ni Hao Ma , How much of a noticeable difference can you observe in the rendering resolution between the PICO 4 ( Old version of the PICO 4 ) and the Newer version the PICO 4 ULTRA ? How much of a noticable difference in the rendering resolution between the PICO 4 ULTRA and the Quest 3 ? Those critics of the price of the PICO 4 ULTRA mostly likely are Mark Zuckerberg bots fans of the poorly designed trashcan dweller the Quest 3. The price of the trashcan dweller base model Quest 3 is $ 499 with only 8 GB's of RAM and 128 GB's of storage. The price of the PICO 4 ULTRA is $ 599 The PICO 4 ULTRA has a higher default rendering resolution and native resolution than the Quest 3. Native display resolution of both the PICO 4/ PICO 4 ULTRA is : 2160 X 2160 and the default rendering resolution of the PICO 4 ULTRA is : 1920 X 1920. Native resolution of the trashcan dweller Quest 3 is : 2064 X 2208 and the default rendering resolution is : 1680 X 1760 The PICO 4 ULTRA has 12 GB's of RAM and 256 GB's of storage. The extra cost of $ 100 USD of the PICO 4 ULTRA over the trashcan dweller Quest 3 is well worth it when you consider the 12 GB's of RAM and the 256 GB's of storage. Mark Zuckerberg's bots fans of the trashcan dweller Quest 3 only are jealous of the PICO 4 ULTRA and want to trash the PICO 4 ULTRA for no good reason. Besides ? The design of the Quest 3 is stupid and a poor design because the battery is placed inside the V.R. headset front visor. The battery is placed up front inside the front visor and creates more heat for the Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 GEN 2 chipset and makes the V.R. headset front heavy. The PICO 4 and the PICO 4 ULTRA will always run cooler than the Quest 3 because the battery is designed to be placed in the back of the headset.
I like the emphasis on interoperability with the Apple ecosystem. I've already got a PSVR2 for games, so I've been watching what Apple does with whatever the Vision (non pro) turns out to be. If they do too little to address the criticisms people have with the AVP (price, comfort, etc), I might look into a Pico 4U. I travel a lot, so I want to start taking spatial photos/videos ASAP and have a space to manage them.
you can add a usb c adapter and add like 20 add ons onto the headset . this plus the ability to connect the headset then with a passthrough charger and or a lan cable adapter makes it INSANE and no one talks about it , i saw like 1 video about it . but its a bit tacky to use with cable like that i guess
Fantastic and thank you. We own a few pico4 for our arcade in Australia And looking forward to the Ultra. I’ll be in Japan in early October so I hope to try first hand unless they are avail globally by then.
Great review
I bet you will like it!
Yes I absolutely I cam considering buying this product knowing that I am in Saudi Arabia. Just one question these multi windows are supported when connect it to PC. I need it for productivity purposes.
@@hassanal-madi586 Yes, it supports up to 3 multi windows when use PICO Connect
how is the microphone quality and full hand and body tracking on this?
@@PlebiasFate1609 Microphone is better then Quest 3. For hand tracking, Ultra don't support direct touch, so I thought Quest 3 win in this round
@@melodyyin sorry to ask a lot but can you test the headset in vrchat as well?
@@PlebiasFate1609 It seems that there is no VRchat app in China. I will think about other ways to try out the microphone.
I know a lot of people out there want "affordable" standalone headsets, although it would be nice to see more dedicated PCVR headsets in the $1k+ range that are compatible with SteamVR base stations/controllers.
90 hz make it bad for pcvr
@@eminem0601, while it'd be nice if the Pico 4 Ultra could do 120hz, saying it's bad for PCVR at 90hz is nonsense. The Pico 4, which also runs at 90hz, and it's very popular as a PCVR headset.
@@eminem0601 No it doesn't. Yes 120hz is better, if your PC is highend enough, but 90hz is certainly more then enough (as long as it maintain that framerate without frame drops).
Thanks for the Vid, can you tell me what kind of USB Typ Gen the Pico4U is using?
Are the pancake lenses any different? As the Pico4 has sensors on the top corners, is the tracking volume better than Quest3?
Pancake lenses are same as PICO 4. For tracking vloume, I guess new iTof sensor will help while Quest 3 use structure light. I haven't try it yet. Do you have any suggestions on methods for measurement and comparison?
@@melodyyin I was hoping the pancake lenses would be better than Quest3's which has less distortion than the P4.
To test the tracking move your controllers around your body slowly, then when you lose tracking you'll know where the edge/limit of the tracking volume ends. If you move too fast it will rely on the gyro which is approximate.
@@melodyyin There is a chance the lenses were improved since the Pico 4.
I hope so for you, because the Quest 3 lenses are much, much superior than Pico 4's. No need to put bigger resolution if optic blur everything.
Which vr heaset has better sound for you and why? Thanks.😊
Meta quest 3, because it’s more louder and clearer
Wow, I thought they weren't shipping until September 2nd. Can the Chinese model be configured for other regions so it uses the correct app store? Thanks!
The PICO Store depends on IP address,even if I change the language, it still use Chinese Store.
@@melodyyin Appreciate the reply. I wonder what store it would use if you took it to foreign country. 🤔
@@raeldor The domestic version is different from globe one. if you buy PICO 4 in other countries the store use visa for payments (So it works when it is globe version) In China PICO store it use wechat pay and so on
@@melodyyin By version she means the software side, I've changed my Pico4pro purchased in China, to international version, so you can pick the store you want to use locally with. A better option. Chinese version in English is waste of time for international users. However i will wait until someones uploads the firmware before I go get an Ultra so I can play Walk about mini golf with my Son at same time!
Thank you for this video. Will the Pico 4 Ultra be coming to the UK? If the price is around £500 I would be interested in ordering
@@neilrisley1321 I am not sure about it. if you can buy PICO 4 in UK , then there probably will have Ultra
YES...best performance in steam, you set it earlier in your Video!
Thank you for your support!
What about text clarity and rendering quality for Mac/PC streaming? Is it better than Q3?
Do you mean making a comparison between using PICO Connect and Horizon for work and displaying web pages? I will try it later
$500 would be great, anyways, I am definitely going to buy one!
I agree $500 would be the limit ! Plus including the 45W Power supply unit
@@TriangelProduction Yeah!
It looks like it will be 699 USD.
No 😭😭 It's top much for this thing
@@FotachuOff This price will not sell it
As you said. I want that OS integrated into the current PICO 4. But I understand the limitation of the PICO 4 hardware might not be suitable for that experience
I guess it will be placed in the laboratory function, I heard a lot of feedback about it these days. The new functions will help PICO4 become more competitive. After all, Quest is going to release a cheaper version soon.
Great review! Just some advice: either say gigabyte(s) or gig(s), not "GB". That sounds wrong in English.
@@kellymoses8566 Thanks! One of my friends told me that after I uploaded this video hhhh
excellent video, thanks!
Thanks for your support
Waiting for release here in Norway! Want to replace my pico 4
why would you replace it for this overpriced crap?
It is the same headset with a better camera.
You will hardly see any benefit from the new chip and ram, because even pico 4 applications suck in resolution. Developers don't care, software is crap in the pico system.
@@KoRNeRd May I ask what exactly is bad with the software, the developer and the OS? I'm really eager to know the objective evaluation based on facts that you mentioned.
Thanks for the English video. I have the Pico 4 Pro which has eye tracking and also has the body trackers. The only thing attractive about the Ultra is the multi window feature and the environments. I wish Pico would bring that to the Pico 4 Pro.
let's waiting for porting features ❤
@@melodyyin Also, the Pico 4 Ultra's AR features look very good. It has better cameras than the Quest 3 and Pico 4 Pro.
Can I buy it in Shenzhen?
@@itaikndoro You can order via webside right now. I am not sure if they have the new devices in retail store before September
And ofcourse the much faster CPU/GPU with sharper images as it is rendered an a much higher resolution as the regular pico 4, also the much better 4 microphones, dual camera's and 'depth'sensor. And the ring-less controllers. BUT, the pro has the eyetracking...
I'm thinking about buying Pico 4 Ultra too. What do you think about text quality and hand trakcing?
Test Quality is better than PICO 4 and Quest3 obviously. For hand tracking, I need to some experiments to check it and I will let you know latter
Thanks, Can you do more videos on Passthrough and manual control without controller?
Definitely Yes
Thanks. Very helpful and informative
Pico4 Ultra will be a great product for sure and probably I would buy it on Amazon when it appears 😊
But also I want to try the new pico motion tracker, that seems like a good immersive product for VR 🤩
One of my favorite thing this day is playing Tempoclub. You must have try.
Now the 2nd motion tracker will be the gift when you pre-order PICO 4 Ultra in China. I hope it will be the same in oversea market~
@@melodyyin That would be cool 😎
I have a Pico 3 NEO LInk, Pico 4 and Quest 2 and 3. The Pico 4 Ultra is a good headset, but for me personally there are major downsides:
a) the visual quality of the displays are better on Quest 3, since the Pico 4 Ultra uses the same lenses/displays as Pico 4
b) the Quest 3 supports additional 80Hz and more important 120Hz
c) i have more comfort options for the headstrap and additional batteries on Quest 3
d) i can use Quest Pro controllers, which track themselves, even behind my back
e) i can have 512 GB of storage, which is needed if you do want bigger games to run and also do recording videos a lot
All of these are very personal and do not change the fact that the Pico 4 and Pico 4 Ultra are good headsets.
Could you make a video on the passthrough? And maybe compare it to the Meta Quest 3 passthrough?
@@storm9k Got It
The front cameras are much larger on the Ultra, compared to the base Pico 4.
However more data leads to more latency, if processing is not leveraged more so as well.
I know for a fact passthrough image is much better on the Ultra, to even advertise AR.
To anyone who has actual hands-on; How is the delay/reaction time, and the dim environment noise, for passthrough?
I'm working on the next video. I'll let you know as soon as I finish editing and upload it
I have the impression that it is more of a competitor for Apple's headset than for the meta Quest three. If you want gaming and a large panel of expériences on vr , for me the best head set is still the quest 3 . I see that the pico ultra is better, just if you want to work, do multitasking or fitness.
Actually, They are two sides for headset. One is ultimate home-entertainment, one is efficient production（which will have more potential buyers). For me, I think the Playing is more important than work (I'm fed up wit job.Human should try the best to reduce the work)
Thank you for making this English video. Your English is very clear and easy to understand. I think Pico should reduce the price to reach more people and especially the USA market with the dominance of Meta. And did you make a visual comparison with the Quest 3 ? There is the statement that the Quest 3 delivers a better picture than the normal Pico 4 ! I can't judge that, as I have the Pico Neo 3 Link.
I will make the video later. For visual comparison, I have to say PICO 4 Ultra ＞ Quest 3 ＞ PICO4
@@melodyyin I'm really looking forward to the comparison, which is of course always subjective, but at least it gives me an indication of whether there are any major differences 👁
Melody Yin, you are the best! I want to see more videos from you. I like the way you say the word "cumbersome". 😍
which is better? Pico 4 Pro or Pico 4 Ultra
GO PICO!!!!
Can you buy this in the US?
hello thank you for the good material, I will personally make a purchase even though I have quest 3
Good for you
Don't really care about on-board hardware, since 99% of VR I do is PC VR, running heavily modded Skyrim VR, Blade and Sorcery VR, Fallout 4 VR, Half-Life:Alyx, etc.
I really care about controller tracking - precision, smoothness, angle, view angle. If I stab an enemy through the visor of a helmet with a rapier, I'd better not miss because of tracking issues. I have Quest2, and tracking precision is far from stellar.
I do dig the full body tracking though - it's great in games like Blade and Sorcery.
Does it have full hand tracking, AR functionality like Quest3?
I'll be buying it soon as I can, but I wish it had 512GB storage vice 256. I'll have to manage the storage better (currently have 40gb left on my pico 4)
If this headset used the new Meta Horizon OS then this could of been the top selling headset in a year
I love my Pico 4 and I am interested in this new one. What's great aside from the upgrades over the old one, the design is the same, which means most accessories can just be reused for the new one, I dont have to pay anything else with regards to accessories.
Yes, my lenses are usable. Have you bought other accessories?
@@melodyyin AMVR facial interface, back up silicon facial interface, bobovr headstrap for battery pack, forehead support strap.
Are colors Brightness better than pico 4 ?
Yes, Almost 30% brighter than PICO 4
Also 62% higher processing resolution as well . Plus all the lens are quality checked.
@@AndyMorphs "all the lens are quality checked." > how do you know ???
@@TriangelProduction they said at the event.
@@TriangelProduction PICO said it in the product launch🤣
Can you play 4K movies on it?
PLEASE post the Ultra/ Q3 visual comparing video 🍀
I hope the Ultra display is much better then the Q3 👁
Hi Melody. Thanks for the review.
If you have ANY influence whatsoever, could you please join me and others to push these VR makers to provide a direct DisplayPort connection. Not a USB-C Compressed connection? This for gamers who want the most possible fidelity of their gaming experience on PCs.
It's too bad this can't be an option, as some of these headsets' 'other' features are appealing for other use-cases as well. They just don't address the core gamer crowd in PC. Only a few headset makers do, and at that, there's not a lot of modern VR headsets (besides maybe PIMAX) that's sticking to this. But PIMAX has its 'other' issues too.
Thank you for this video. Good comparison.
tnx for the video in English ;0 keep it up.
Wireless 7 is a huge plus as it enables wireless streaming from PC at a pretty good bitrate.
If it had OLED screens I would definitely buy one.
Not much point to having better machinery driving crappy cheap screens though.
I'll stick with my original Quest for standalone and I have my Bigscreen Beyond for PC gaming.
Bigscreen Beyond is a great product, lightweight, but both the face mask and pupil distance are custom-made.
No, the chip cannot handle wifi 7 encoding, even if it can connect to it. There is just a limit to decompression.
@@KoRNeRd www.qualcomm.com/products/mobile/snapdragon/xr-vr-ar/snapdragon-xr2-gen-2-platform "With support for the latest Qualcomm FastConnect, users will experience lag-free and shared XR experience with ultra-fast Wi-Fi 7 and Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 and 5.2 wireless connectivity for 60% higher throughput2 and 80% lower latency2."
I'm still gonna hold out for the Pico 5 Max Pro! I'm keeping hope alive! 🤞😁
Really? Is there any exclusive news?
looks awesome, i think i will get one🤤
Wait charger NOT included? Why?! But can I use any type C phone charger on it?
I guess it is the cost considering. you can use your own type C charger
@@melodyyin I would say the 45W charger MUST be on board
@@TriangelProduction It's not in my package. I hope you will have one.
@@melodyyin I believe Pico will NOT include a 45W charger for the EU release as you said: cost Pico a bit more and less profit.
Not taking sides, but here's a clearer conparison regarding the points shared in this video:
1. P4U have AI generated virtual environment (but only limited to 3 free ones). Q3 multiple choices of virtual environment, in addition to that, there're also vast amount of virtual environment created by community that can be added via sidequest, such as Rick's (from Rick and Morty) garage, Star Wars locations, City 17 Alley (from Half Life Alyx), Konoha (from Naruto), etc.
2. Hardware is just on paper specs, I agree, certain aspect is without doubt better, such as having 45w fast charging, but others, such as having Wifi 7 and more RAM, I doubt it makes any noticeable difference to general consumer.
3. Multi-window, 20 multi-window sounds great, but need to elaborate, what window is supported? In the video we mainly see 1x browser, 1x tiktok app (android app), 1x android app (chinese video streaming app), 1x Pico app store, etc. Does it support multi-window browser? Does it support non-chinese video streaming app such as Netflix, TH-cam, etc? Because that's what Q3 excels (example: I have 1x window browser running netflix, 1x youtube vr app in window mode, 1x window browser running Google Sheet/Doc to do my work, 1x window browser on Wikipedia finding info that I need), I don't need to switch back and forth between browser tabs, instead I have multiple browser windows. 20 multi-windows but mainly for Android apps and only 1 window for each app, is not that useful tbh.
4. Installing apk is much easier on Pico platform, this I agree. Doesn't mean Quest can't do it, just involve extra steps. This point is in favor of Pico if you are a user who constantly need to sideload apk. Though, I don't think the general consumer would be constantly wanting to sideload apk 😅
5. Ability to capture spatial video, another point I agree, tbh Q3 also can but not natively, need to go through developer settings. Though, I don't think Spatial Video is a thing yet, ask those that own the latest iphone, how many of them actually record spatial video? Not many tbh, maybe in the future, I'm not sure.
6. Full body tracking via the tracker, out of all the points mentioned, this is the point I strongly agree on which in reality and from a general consumer pov, is a strong win for P4U, especially for the VRChat community.
7. Ability to bring up 2D floating window in VR game, this is nothing new, Q3 also able to do this.
Thanks for your comment! ❤
1. I have not try it in Sidequet. I will check it later to see if the UGC virtual environments have better effects
3. PICO support multi-window Browser and PC Streaming. You need open the new window in Browser App (maximum is 5). You can also install webapp via browser for more than 5 windows
PS. they have TH-cam App in PICO Store.
@@melodyyin unfortunately the TH-cam app on Pico not support window mode yet
😶🌫Then I guess WebApp or the Android App is the better choice
this is the hardest decision i have to make.. quest 3 or this headset, both available for the same price
amazing, perfect
Thank you ❤
Is the colors better? Then the pico 4
May I ask how to compare the colors? Is recording a screenshot enough? I can only tell that the clarity has been improved.
@@melodyyin thats okay, Thank you for answering my question.
Not mad about paying $600 but we all know is gonna be expensive in America
It's gonna be 599 euro's in the EU, with free motion trackers if you pre-order, and 4 games.
900 to Mexico 💀 @@SuperDre74
I just want a great 2024 generation PCVR headset. And am concerned about the price.
Why still 90hz 😭
Quest3 win in this point 🤣
It could be 6 reasons if pico 4 had a native display port
Many games do not become updates on Pico store like Contractors vr you should do something about that and not just making new hardware.
global release when?
Early September
Nice Markenting Pico ❤
it does look good and competitive but there won't be batman in it
I wish they did something about the terrible face interface that leaves a sharp mark on your face just after an hour of usage. I think it's designed only for Chineese peoples face. Also my Pico 4 has lots of glares which really annoys me. For a period of time I thought it was normal because of the pancake lenses but later I got my quest 3 and realized it wasn't true. Quest 3 has the pancake lenses and there is almost no glares. My pico 4 probably is a faulty one which makes me nervous about getting the new Pico if it ever arrives in my country.
What is this glare thing ? I heard about it often. Is light coming int the VR from the sides or is it a problem with these pancake lenses ? The Pico Neo 3 Link has other lenses and i have no problems with a bad picture impression. So can someone explain the "glare" problem ?
It's some kind of reflection of bright objects displayed in your vision. For example, on the pico home screen you see the controllers you are holding which are bright white. But you also see some blur reflection of the controllers on upper part of your vision which distracts you and prevents having a clear sight. As far as I know, it caused by the light reflecting between the layers of pancake lenses which could be eliminated using some kind of coating on the lens surfaces. I don't think pico neo link has pancake lenses, so it's normal you don't have glares.
@@mray3308 YES the Pico Neo 3 Link has these bigger lenses with grooves and is fine with no glare. I also heard that the Pico 3 series was made from other company and is a bit different in tec work. Not sure if this info is right ? Maybe the earlier Pico units are made a bit better and for Pro users ?
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Great video
Where I can get one 😢
It is said that reservations will start on September 2nd.Would you buy one?
I want to buy one and can’t wait for the EU release 😢
@@cia4gent128 Good Choice
Resolution and lenses are worse than Quest 3 I think.
TBH, I don't say Pico is bad, but the one and only reason that stops me from considering Pico is because of the games... The Pico game library is way too small compared to Meta. I looked for "Green Hell" and it's outdated in Pico, I looked for "Medieval Dynasty" and it's not even in Pico.
The game library is large enough for any gamer!!!
Don't quote fairytales from Meta fanboys!
PICO is investing in self-developed games. For example, Tempoclub is an exclusive one. I hope that there will be more VR games in the future.However, PICO basically has all the top games that Meta has, and the game price is cheaper in PICOstore. I'm not sure how the prices compare to Meta in other countries. If anyone knows, please tell me！
@@melodyyin I also think the most good games are in Pico store !
And payment works flawless and downloading works also well ⭐
I've got a PSVR2 and I don't think I could switch to Quest for games. Bigger library and pancake lenses, sure, but terrible visuals and no immersive hardware features. I might consider a Pico 4U for the better battery, pass-through, and interoperability with apple products.
@@4theluvofmusic I have no clue about the PSVR2 as i am new to VR and i like it a lot AND i like that the Pico unit is good to wear and well balanced and Chinese hightec is not bad, it is in some cases better then the mainstrem units.
Great video, but there is one big mistake: you don't need adb or dev mode to sideload APKs onto Quest... you can use the Mobile VR Station method on a totally non-dev Quest.
No display port, no buy
I would never buy pico headset, beacuse I think ByteDance is propably collecting data
I will choose the PICO 4. Because I hate Zuckerberg.
pico is crap in software, notice how all the os features can work on the regular pico4, but they don't support it. It is disgraceful.
Trust me, the PICO 4 Ultra has undergone significant upgrades and changes; the experience will be completely different.
@@melodyyin I don't care about the Ultra, why would anyone in their right mind buy anything from pico when they saw the software in pico 4 vs quest 2 and 3.
The most important thing in the headset are the panels and lenses and they are the same, who would pay double for a passthrough camera, which is hardly used??? The most important thing is this: the software updates are long ago ready and they still have not released them for the standard pico4.
Nah 100$ more for SLIGHTLY better hardware and worse software aint a buy for me
And you're trying to say that you will want to force Pico 4 Ultra to not exist forever simply because you think that you have this dumb reason you came up? Cause it sounds like you are!
$100 for 256gb instead of 128, and an actually good comfortable head strap.
I got the preorder package that comes with the motion trackers with no extra cost 😅😂
@@Shadowclaw1113 Nice
@@elite-forcecinema1788 Bro just because I don't see the value in spending more for less appealing software doesn't mean I'm against it. I'm just being a smart consumer and choosing what works best for me. If you want to pay more for hardware that offers only minor improvements, that's your choice.
Sorry, but the game catalogue in the quests is far more wide, just that alone makes the quest better than any other vr headset
@@danielcastro1111 True
There are only a very few Meta games that are not on the Pico store
But there a also some good Pico games that are not on the Meta ...
No display port no better lenses(oled), how is that crap better than quest 3?, wifi 7? Puff nobody cares about it
And why do you think that nobody cares about it? Is it because you think that Pico 4 sucks simply because you think that it is cancer and that you think that you will need to force Pico 4 to go d*e as a thing, like, right now, FOREVER, or not?
@@elite-forcecinema1788 I have pico 4 dude, pico sucks, there is not comunity, they are just copying meta and apple 🤣🤣🤣 and they are chinese
@@Kelvin-w6sYour comment is very interesting with your profile picture. Do you know the meaning of this Chinese character?😂
@melodyyin that's Japanese crazy girl 🤣🤣🤣
5 Reasons why Quest 3 is better than Pico 4 Ultra: 1.) Handtracking 2.) Software in Store 3.) Software-Sytem Support/Upgrades 4.) USB-OTG Support 5.) Data privacy! I recommend the Quest 3🙂👍
@@Dirk2006Neu lol🤣 Good try! I remember PICO also support USB-OTG.
1.) How do you know the hand tracking is bad? Have you tried the new OS? 2.) There is actually more content in the PICO store, unfortunately it's lacking some exclusives. 3.) What's wrong with PICO'S software support? 4.) PICO has USB-OTG too. 5.) Data privacy on a meta headset? 😂😂
Keep on dreaming and Meta is of course more secure *lol
@@melodyyin O.K. 4 of 5 … 🤣 … but it change nothing for me.
@@TriangelProduction ByteDance and TicToc … 🤣 … oh yes, my dreams are so real and true…
Ccp propaganda don’t fall for it guys 😾👊
Ni Hao Ma ,
How much of a noticeable difference can you observe in the rendering resolution between the PICO 4 ( Old version of the PICO 4 ) and the Newer version the PICO 4 ULTRA ?
How much of a noticable difference in the rendering resolution between the PICO 4 ULTRA and the Quest 3 ?
Those critics of the price of the PICO 4 ULTRA mostly likely are Mark Zuckerberg bots fans of the poorly designed trashcan dweller the Quest 3.
The price of the trashcan dweller base model Quest 3 is $ 499 with only 8 GB's of RAM and 128 GB's of storage.
The price of the PICO 4 ULTRA is $ 599
The PICO 4 ULTRA has a higher default rendering resolution and native resolution than the Quest 3.
Native display resolution of both the PICO 4/ PICO 4 ULTRA is : 2160 X 2160
and the default rendering resolution of the PICO 4 ULTRA is : 1920 X 1920.
Native resolution of the trashcan dweller Quest 3 is : 2064 X 2208
and the default rendering resolution is : 1680 X 1760
The PICO 4 ULTRA has 12 GB's of RAM and 256 GB's of storage.
The extra cost of $ 100 USD of the PICO 4 ULTRA over the trashcan dweller Quest 3 is well worth it when you consider the 12 GB's of RAM and the 256 GB's of storage.
Mark Zuckerberg's bots fans of the trashcan dweller Quest 3 only are jealous of the PICO 4 ULTRA and want to trash the PICO 4 ULTRA for no good reason.
Besides ?
The design of the Quest 3 is stupid and a poor design because the battery is placed inside the V.R. headset front visor.
The battery is placed up front inside the front visor and creates more heat for the Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 GEN 2 chipset and makes the V.R. headset front heavy.
The PICO 4 and the PICO 4 ULTRA will always run cooler than the Quest 3 because the battery is designed to be placed in the back of the headset.