How to setup PA system for band , live events , conference meeting rooms
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2014
- This video explains how to setup a PA system for bands using keyboards , drums , guitars etc. Video also explains about how to figure out the wattage of amplifier required in relation to the speakers used & how to setup for Live events etc.Equipment used is Yamaha MG166Cx USB , QSC GX5 amps , DBX 231 Graphics equalizer, Electrovoice EV SX300 , Electrovoice EV SB122 , Neutrik XLR cables and Speakon cables, DBX 233XL crossover. Active DI box , Yamaha Guitar , Korg Triton Studio.
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3: The Mixing Engineer's Handbook: Fourth Edition
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Great video! Very simple and very informative. Your video has contributed to my buying decision when it comes to a mixer for a small live band. Keep up the great work!
Cheers !
I never knew that about unbalanced and balanced mic cables.. Awesome tips! Thank you!
Thank you for taking your time and explaining this to us. Your help is much appreciated!
Thanks for watching & the comment !
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Good info. Thanks for posting!
thanks man... this is helping with my new job lol
Great grass roots level tutorial for pa users...subbed.
thanks lot for this video.N also appreciate ur very good demonstration.
thanks lot n expect more..!!
Thanks for watching and commenting , yes I will try my best to release some more informative videos from time to time.
please do the video on graphic EQ and PA on how to use them, this was so helpful!
sure will do on a digital mixer i.e QL5. In the mean while check this video which I made ''how to connect GEQ to PA system . : th-cam.com/video/3I7bcQ73W2Y/w-d-xo.html
This is a really helpful video
Sir I have a SSA- 350 Amplifier from Ahuja I want to know what watt of speaker can I use for it to play.
VERY HELPFUL THANK YOU
Excellent video!
thank you ....great video...very informative
Please I need further clarification on the formula you said for amplification 1.6 for vocals and light music and 2.5 for heavy or rock music for hours.
very helpful I really appreciate it much but i would like to how many types of amplifiers there are and their applications that is, the resistance, to different speakers.
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hello... thanks for the very nice explanation... I want to know also how you connect the graphic equalizer to the mixing board that's my request pls. thank you...
As none technical man this is very explanatory. Thanks brother
+Samuel Adjei , Thanks for watching .
I'm ready to purchase today a set of 2 with mixer and stands which set/company/brand should I buy I'm looking for quality sound
thank you so so much from my bottom of my heart ........ i am a tibetan boy struggling sound engineer.. thank you
+kakako lala hi I want you helpp me I need a documetation about connect and installing a PA system if u can help me thx again
Amazing lessons! How to set a PA system for 50'feet length, 30' feet width church? And what are the essential products which I have?
you would need 4 speaker PA system , make a note of the SPL of the speakers , place two at the front then two roughly after 25-30 feet. Add delay to the 2nd set of speakers , formula to calculate delay is .88 x distance in feet = delay in mili seconds . Place the speakers in same direction to avoid phasing issues. Hope this helps.
Turn it up loud as fuck
Thank you so much for your good teatching. How can I connect a guitar amp to a mixer ? I'm always confused when I'm thinking about that.
Hi , first connect the guitar to the mixer via DI box , route the guitar input to an available line level output then connect that OUTPUT to the Guitar amp line level input.Hope this helps.
how can i connect four power amps to my mixer using a compressor,equalizer,processor and a step down having more equalixers as well
Thanks brother :) Really helpful
+Anil Mathew James , Thanks brother for watching.
Bought a new 2018 Mackie Thump 12A 1300 watt for a personal vocal monitor to hear my self more clearly and most of all more loudly.
Already running 1200 watt peavey amp into 2 peavy passive 15 inch speakers. Its level has been loud enough for years but i knew I needed to hear myself better to perform better and avoid vocal fatigue. Its not loud enough and disappears as soon as we start playing. Tried different cables, dynamic and live condenser mics etc. Mic gain and mon both up at 90% then starts feeding back at 100. Sounds ok when no one else is playing. Plays music from phone or ipad much louder than singing. Were not crazy loud either. Loud but not intrusively or out of the ordinary for a rock band. This thing would be great for kareoke or an acoustic quieter band but not for rock music. Talked to several techs who were all confused from different companies. Finally received a replacement and its exactly the same. 1300 watts should be blowing my hair back. Is one powered wedge usually good enough or do you absolutely need 2? Never had many problems on stage hearing myself on 1 of the houses though they were not self powered. We have an old powered old JBL 500 watt or or something that's around 30% louder and lower watts.
Anyone else experience this with Mackie or any other mfgs? Is this normal? Thanks!
Have you considered about in ears monitoring system ?
ok i know all about this as an electronics hobbyist. [ my mates got one ] mackie thump 15 quotes 1,000 W. ; 400W RMS , 800W peak, for bass, 100W RMS 200 peak for top, this is a con, i downloaded manuel, where i got all thoses figures, where it also says MAINS LINE IN 130 W, so how can it give out around 8 times more power then it takes in, ; answer by law an amp company have to quote accurate power consumption but for output power the can quote what they like ie i can garrantee that your amp is absolutly no where near 1,300 W its a big con and just about all manufactures do it, check your amps manuel, and look for power in/power consumption [ or check the back plate my roland KC550 claims 180W but back plate says 135 W so allowing for loss due to inificiancy, proberly only 100W RMS. and base your understanding of the actual amp output power on that. taken account of loss in efficiancy from powere consuption input. cheers. carl.
forgot, my comment is the reason your new makie thump isnt blowing your hair away is becaused as ive said below, yourve been conned like thousands of people the macke thump like all amps that dont quote there powere output honestly, and your mackie amp wont be any where near, 1,3000 W, i would urge you to read the manuel and look for "line in" or "power consumption, or its "back plate" to get a real idea of what the wattage of the amp rearly is. cheers. carl.
also dont know where you live but if you live in the U.K. we have some good laws when buying from a buissness/dealer [ doesnt apply to private sales ] except goods must be as described ie if anyone including private sales sell something with a discription, the goods must be as described or your entitled to your money back, and you would have a good case there as ive exsplained, also laws that only apply to bussnessis / deales which say goods must be fit for purpose [ yours obviosly is not ] and mechanable quality which i guess that wont apply hear as quality is obviosly ok.so you could allways take that route if you live in the U.K. and get your money back. note if you are looking for a better powered PA speaker get the top of the line yamaha one, cant remember its name off hand [ my bro has a pair ] but its the best on the market puting out 132 Db only cost around £450, there very light and blow away all the compatition [ ]makie thump 15 only 127 Db ie the yamaha is 4 times the volume. cheers. carl
What should be the signal chain to connect the power amps, graphic EQ, and speakers?
Great video bro
Tnx Brother posting of this kind videos, its very important for beginner like me,
Thanks for helpful video! What if I come as videographer to conference that has a board, but I want to plug in my own mixer for my own mix to camera? Was thinking of buying the Zoom F8 with their mixer. Any input as to how to do this in best way possible would be wonderful.
yes zoom f8 would do the job , install a condenser shotgun mic on top of your camera or any other LAV mic for interviews , feed into zoom f8 . Get a audio feed( mix of all mics) from the in house audio mixer & feed to zoom f8. In post use the audio feed that suits you & your client's requirements.
Have sounded system at my church I'm to connecting both Yamaha keyboard
Great video, tnx!
Great help! Can I run a 3/4 jack out from my amp into a DI box into the mixer? So I can have my affects and pedals in the mix? Thanks
yes you can .
Thank you sir you video is of lot of help to me. am a musician and i have a 8 channel studiomaster mixer and a studio master B400U active speaker. can I connect my active speaker to power amplifier and by doing so will there be clarity and sournd. please advise me.
no point connecting a active speaker to an amp . the active speaker has a built in amp designed specifically to drive that particular speaker.
I have an 16.0.2 presonus mixer brand new . starting a home recording studio. can't get it to work . I'm a beginner .I also have the audiobox itwo interface with a pair of 4.5 inch monitors . in need of help please
what element of the sound design including the mixer you don't understand ?
Hello I have to two hundred watt speakers if i was buying a powered mixer how watts does it need to be or if i get a power amp how many watts would it need
kennedy boucher you need at two channel amp that delivers 100 watt to each channel if 100 watts is your speakers program power. If 100 watts is your speakers continuous power then the amp needs to be able to deliver double that power for each channel and if 100 watts is your speakers peak power then the amp needs to be able to deliver half that power to each channel. More importantly check the impedance of your speakers and the amp needs to match the power at the same impedance. Hope this helps😊.
can you give me a diagram illustration on how to connect 2 single speaker and a double speaker to an amplifier
On each speakers, you will see a "link". Say if you have 4 speakers and 1 amplifier which only has 2 outputs, 1st thing to do is connect the first two speakers into each outputs of the amplifier. 2nd, connect the remaining 2 speakers to each of the "link" on the first set of speakers.. Make sure the wattage and resistance correspond to the speaker and amp relations.
Thank you Again!
Thanks a lot, very helpful information indeed. It's really appreciated 👍 love from Kolkata, India.
You’re welcome, thank you for watching.
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Thanks for watching, glad you like it .
Thank you.
How to send AUX?
Can I connect powered speakers to a powered console?
How much price...??
thx man, helped me alot
+ckn711 , You are welcome
do you still have that PA system
GREAT VIDEO!!. I have a question I hope someone can help me with PLEASE! So in my PA system I have sonic maximizer, graphic equalizer, two-way stereo crossover, compressor and a Behringer ultra bass enhancer and 2 amps 1 playing my mains and the other for my subs. I am running my system in stereo meaning channel 1 channel 2 (left/Right) my bass is in mono my problem is I want to add second EQ just for my subs because my mains are getting too much bass from the single EQ so my question is how do I add a second EQ for just bass with my mains still in stereo. Thank you so much in advance.
low output CH1 from crossover to 2nd EQ CH1 input ( i.e for right bass bin / sub)
Low output CH2 from crossover to 2nd EQ CH2 input ( i.e for left bass bin / sub)
2nd EQ CH1 output to 2nd amp (driving bass bin Right) CH1 input
2nd EQ CH2 output to 2nd amp ( driving bass bin Left) CH2 input
2nd amp CH1 output to right bass bin input
2nd amp CH2 output to left bass bin input
there are many different ways of achieving this depending on your setup and equipment , this post crossover-EQ is for your speakers only and should not be confused with the parametric EQ on input channels and GEQ on inputs/outputs , hope this helps ! Let us know the outcome.
How will you achieve active listening and active participation in a conference with question answer session?
via 2 way continuous audio transmission between speakers/presenters and audience with integration of microphones .
Very helpful
Thankyou
***** Your are welcome , thanks !
hey AVME, are you missing something major ?? like a multi-channel audio snake ?? (unless you plan on mixing pretty much on stage or to the left or right of the stage) lol
:) actually i miss the sound stage boxes based on Dante & AES50 /67. No one uses snakes anymore unless you are dealing with analog equipment .
What should be the tilting angle of speakers towards audience?
adjust to their ears height while they are sitting r standing , angle titling all depends what application you are setting up the speakers for.
How to have a monitor speaker for drumms or singer? /How to connect monitor speaker.?
Thank you. Godbless.
Hey is it safe to use a powered mixer to a powered PA speaker?
you can, it would be a waste. because your not going to use the amp in the mixer just the thru.
hi I want you helpp me I need a documetation about connect and installing a PA system if u can help me thx again
Great vid
thanks for watching.
Hi thank you for your videos they are all informative, by the way which is better higher gain on input then lower volume, or lower gain input but higher volume?
I made a video about setting up proper gain structure , have a look here is the link : th-cam.com/video/kEIvrFB5Hz4/w-d-xo.html
thank you very much for the videos... I always love DJing and really love music, so I'm starting to collect equipment especially from DJ. I just purchased powered loudspeakers, in this video, are you using active powered loudspeakers? or passive? can you tell when and I need active and not powered loudspeakers? I really appreciate your lessons.. Thanks
powered are the way forward. Get them.
How to match your ampli to your speaker
I have mentioned the formula in the video , watch full video.
Can two 500w speakers accommodate all the sounds from a band live sound? ( 1 vocal 1 guitar, 1 bass, and 7 mic drumkit)
That depends on the area and audience in that area .
Great Tks for sharing...
thanks for watching.
Thanks u helped me
Thanks for watching.
hello sir thank you for sharing... i have an question... i would like to use in at a time 10. to 15 microphone so which mixture machine i have to bring..
I would recommend a digital mixer like Yamaha QL1/5 , CL series , LS9 ,Digico S21, soundcraft vi1 , si impact or Allen and heath QU-16/32 if you have the budget to buy or rent it , Yamaha has the easiest user interface. Otherwise just get a good analog mixer with 16 to 32 channels.
Thanks for the video. I set up with the keyboard ,guitar and microphon go to mixer➡️to amplifier (300watts,8ohm)➡️to 4 speakers(each 150 watts,8 ohm) is that ok with that?
Hi , give me the model no. of your amp & speakers , if your amp has 4 outputs rated at 300W/8Ohms then yes its OK but if your amp has only two outputs rated at 300W/8Ohms then its not OK.
great video
+Dud$ , Thanks
thank you sir , youre great it helps alot, so what if i use more amps and more speaker with a mixer can you do a video for that too please.
you can use more amps & speakers , The bigger the rig/setup the more equipment is required. If i come across such setup then i'll make a video about it.
AVME Videos yes sir if you can make video for this it would be much helpful for e.g like live sounds using sub woofer, mid speakers and high or tweeter low mid and high how to connect in a right way using mixer, amps, crossover etc.. Thank you for replying sir
actually watch this video which I made years ago with 3 amps to drive 3 speakers at High/Mid/Low frequencies using a crossover . Link is : th-cam.com/video/6SpAfuwdWT8/w-d-xo.html
thank you very much for this awesome video
my question away from this, we are using lifesize video conferencing and we have always the problem of return sound , i guess due to the sensitivity of lifesize mic .. any idea to reduce that
if we used 2 different methods for receiving and sending sounds through different speakers is that would help
thanks
In lifesize VC unit there is tool built in , its called echo cancellation , enable it . Make sure the mics are placed as far away from speakers as possible in your setup. Adjust the mic input gain to a level where they are audible don't apply too much gain , same applies to speakers ( adjust the output from amp to a level where they are audible but not too hot in the room ) . Setting up proper gain structure is an art , play with your devices and room acoustics to get best audio possible .If you are using external dsp then make sure feedback eliminator or echo cancellation is enabled.Good luck.
thank you very much ... helpful :)
How to eliminate reflection of sound in a closed space?
add sound absorption material in the room.
I like this PA system. But how much is it?
Hi sir.. i have two fullrange passive speaker, each speaker is 450W 8ohms and one active subwoofer 550W 8ohms..what amplifier should i need?..second question if i use PASSIVE sub woofer 550W 8ohms, what amplifier should i need?..thank you sir..
If 450 W 8 is the continuous power then you need an amp that can deliver twice that power in each channel at 8 ohm, if 450 W is the program power you need an amp that delivers the same amount of power in each channel at 8 ohms, if 450 W is the peak power then you need an amp that delivers half that power to each channel at 8 ohms. Same rules apply to the passive subwoofer. Now the active subwoofer does not need an amp. Hope that helps.🙂
@@abearun , very correct.
how about if i put my guitar in to a speaker like peavey or something like that. do is till need a di box?
+ghaliz filkhair Haris , If it is a guitar amp speaker then no , if its a standard active/passive speaker then yes.
Great tutorial. Do you know how To connect the Voicelive play from TC Helicon to a mixer ? I need to to know how to use the Voicelive without interfer the presets ?
Thanks a lot.
+masch2005 , XLR out from Tc helicon to any available XLR input channel on your mixer. I haven't used this voicelive device so can't comment on the presets.
Thanks my friend. Great tutorials
What is the benefit or advanced of balanced over unbalanced speakers?
stupid question
Very helpful. Ok so If I need an output of 1500W, I would have to put in parallel 2 speakers of 300W in parallel. Therefore I would get 600W by daisy chaining them then multiply by 2.5 to determine my power amp wattage which would give 2.5x600=1500W? Is this correct?
+Juan Pablo Monzon , Correct minimum 960W (1.6 x600) & maximum 1500 W (2.5x600) to drive two speakers from one channel ( on amp) in parallel mode. make sure the impedance of the speakers is supported by the amp as well.
very nice
excellent video, i learned a lot from it specially running 2x8 ohms speakers in parallel mode and how much power you would need for that.
I have Mackie PPM 1012 powered mixer 1600 watts at 4 ohms. My speakers are (Peavey PR15) 8 ohms. I realized that my powered mixer is running at full capacity and it gives only 250 ohms when I run my speakers and the sound quality is very very bad. I am only one man band with one mic and a keyboard and still my setup sucks.
What do you recommend to fix this set up? how can I EQ my keyboard to get a better sound?
Sudanonlie , i have checked the specification of your Mackie powered mixer , the amp power ratings are 300 Watts RMS per channel at 8 Ohms , 500 Watts RMS per channel at 4 Ohm . Your Peavey speakers are 400 W RMS @ 8 Ohms. So yes your powered mixer/amp is not providing required Wattage to your speakers. My recommendations are as follow.
1: Buy a seperate amplifier minimum 600 W RMS @ 8 ohms per channel to support your peavey speakers. If you cannot buy a new amp then try running the speakers at max 60 to 70 % output volume .
2: No need to EQ your keyboard , keep the original sound coming out of it. But if you must need to do then EQ using the EQ knobs on the channel the keyboard is connected to.
How about if I mic my guitar cab, then run mic xlr into di then into mixer. Would this be okay but seems like everyone hooks it up this way.
I don't see any technical benefit of doing it that way other than eliminating ground loops if any in signal domain of connected devices. Main purpose of using DI box is to match the impedance of guitar ( instrument level) to line level input or microphone level input on a mixer. If plugging in a microphone to microphone input on a mixer then I don't see any point of using a DI box other than ground lift element.
I have some old seismic speakers they said 8 ohm how do I know how much watts they put out?
it should be written on the back RMS wattage or just wattage , if not try to find the manual online.
If there are two speakers what should be the distance between the speakers?
depends on the SPL of first speaker from 2nd speaker , calculate the distance from 1st speaker to 2nd speaker and formula is 0.88 x distance between first speaker in feet to 2nd speaker. Sound travels at 1130 feet per second.
So lets say the distance is 25 feet between two speakers then 0.88 x 25 = 22ms of delay should be added to eliminate the eco effect and keep speakers in sync.
How far should you keep speakers from the audience also height of speakers?
again depends on the SPL of the speakers used for the application and the layout of the sitting. Height should be adjusted to their ears if standing or sitting , general rule is adjust the height to carter both sitting and standing positions.
What is the difference between balanced and unbalanced cables? What is the resultant?
watch this video : th-cam.com/video/AN4ZcqvO8lY/w-d-xo.html
I'm an acoustic musician, currently working for small gigs and on a fairly small budget. What equipment would you recommend? Since I'd just be using mic and acoustic, would a small mixer work?
Yes a small mixer would work perfectly if you are starting with a mic and acoustic Guitar. I would recommend you to buy Yamaha AG06 , it is a very good live mixer , recording audio interface and a loop back mixer , it comes with decent mic PRE amp , sample rate is 192khz and 24bit-depth . You will get the famous Yamaha SPX processing effects DSP app with it as well & Cubase DAW.Price in US is around $100-120 & in UK about £100.
Hey your mixer is nice what is the model of that yamaha mixer thanks
John Sibobo , Yamaha MG166CX-Usb, Thanks for watching.
How loud should be the sound in a closed auditorium?
depends what kind of audience and application , exact interior of the auditorium , required overall sound out put levels then the measurements can be calculated, design and implemented accordingly.
I thank u verey much
Hi bud I love your video. i was wondering whats the best way to hookup my yamaha xp60 to my mixer with L+R line inputs. With a DI box or w/o DI Thanks.
Anibal Martinez , just connect the L&R outputs from x60 to line inputs L&R on your mixer. if the x60 is on stage & FoH mixer is away & connected to a different electricity outlet then use a passive DI box.
thanks for the response. should I use 1/4" cables with one ring or 2 rings (no DI box). my friends from Guitar Center got me so confused. One guy told me to use the one with one ring and the other one to use the one with 2 rings. ??? I am lost. Thanks
Would it be ok for a band to run through actives speakers?
Yes that would be okay & saves time .
Will you get sound without speakers? I am little silky.
stupid question
Hi! When wiring the speakers in parallel, and needing 960 watts, 4ohms, is that minimum so 1000 watts could work? Thanks! Great video!
1500 watts amp should be ok.
great, nice
Hi, hi, my friends doing rghtmic ghymastic competition. carpet measurements of 14 x 14 meters. I bought from FB skytec pro 600 amplifier 2×300w 8ohm, and 12" sound lab B115B 150w rms 8ohm spekers and Behringer DX626 mixer. it is very big room with 200-300 peoples. is it enough this systems for competition or upgrade more spekers for every corner on the carpet. Thanks,
Hi, I follow your pa set up videos but I have not seen one that shows how to Connect a graphic equalizer. Can you please help me with one because am trying to set up an equalizer to my system.
Thanks
Martin
+martin kalule , I have created this video , link is ( th-cam.com/video/qXpe5WZkU1M/w-d-xo.html ) . If you have a external GEQ and want to connect to your PA system then following is the signal flow. Lets say you are putting a GEQ for 2 wedges ( monitors ) on the stage.
1: From mixer take AUX 1( L monitor) out to CH1 input on GEQ.
2: From mixer take Aux 2 ( R monitor) out to CH2 input on GEQ.
3: GEQ CH1 out to Amp 1 CH1 input then CH1 out to L monitor input. ( if Monitors are active then GEQ CH1 out to input on L monitor).
4: GEQ CH2 out to Amp 2 Ch2 input then CH2 out to R monitor input ( if Monitors are active then GEQ CH2 out to input on R monitor).
If you want to put the GEQ on your final mix Stereo L & R , then same signal flow applies , it just from mixer L & R output goes to GEQ CH1 & CH2 inputs.
I hope Martin this helps in your setup , if you have any more questions then please do ask.
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What happens for different resistance?
if two speakers are connected in parallel then ohms drops , if connected in series then ohms increases. The amp/s to be used should support the ohms of speakers in conjunction with the connection sound design .
kool that's how I set up mind
What if I want my amplifier to come through the speakers
those are called active speakers ( built in amp) usually have crossover built in as well so no need to use external active crossover with active speakers with built in crossover.
AVME Videos oh thanks
thank you
Do you recommend a DI box for an acoustic guitar going into the mixer? Particularly in a live band setting, where there are electric guitars/bass going through amps?
I recommend it 100 % , actually it's a must in Live & recording sound. Just a rule of thumb, If your acoustic guitar has no on board battery powered EQ & dynamics then use a active DI box , if it has then use a passive DI box.
AVME Videos Okay, thanks!
Hello! Ahm, what is the best speakers for lead vocalist , active or passive to make sounds better or clear!
any good make and quality ones will do the job active or passive does't matter.
Electrovoice SX series speakers are great for vocals (speakers used in this video are SX series, probably SX300s)
They are passive speakers and would require an amplifier that has at least 300 watts of output power at 8 Ohms in order to get full potential.
Good info like it
+Junior Pennant , Thanks for watching.
What is the purpose or function of DI box?
, Hi watch this video , th-cam.com/video/ZdM-yvAml2Q/w-d-xo.html