Great video! Always tip your dealers! Jeremy If you watch the video on my channel Mel's monster 33 rolls I actually do a bunch of those tips so you can see it all in action. I tipped hard ways and hop bets and place bets and such. Thanks to David for teaming up with you on this series. We need to get David and Alex out here to play with us sometime soon!
Tip your dealers and they, including the box person, will overlook those few times you didn't hit the back wall. Tip your dealers and they didn't hear you book that bet that would have lost on that sudden 7 out.
Great Explanation! As a neophyte craps lover I played at the same small casino in Reo once a year for 6 years during a Conference....I played 2 way Yos on every come out roll. The stick man asked my name.....from then on....even after a year....if That dealer was at the table he announced Gary's Here! He was incredible and a great help for me as a shooter/player. He knew my hard ways were always off on come out....he knew that if any shooter rolled a 6 or 8 as a point I put 10 on that hardway....I missed it more than once and He insisted it was his fault and they paid me. Now I will follow your advice and start with a line bet for them.
A really good video. I have always tipped by playing hard ways for dealers, but this gives me so many more options. Also, I've never thought of playing pass line or place bets for dealers. Thanks, Jeremy.
Had a great experience with a dealer a week ago. Had a very simple strategy that involved the field. When a 5,6,8 hit, he'd replenish my field for me. He knew my process for press and collect, so much so that I spent about 10 rolls not saying a word while he ran my hand for me. I was throwing field bets and hard ways in for him almost every hand. After making $1100, I tossed $50 in for them.
I usually place a bet for 10% of whatever I'm betting for me. My favorite bet I've ever made was when I was leaving but, had held $200 out in black and as I was walking past the table said, "Two way Yo! One for me and one for the dealers!" and the guy threw a Yo! This was at the Mardi Gras Casino in Tunica, MS. The dealers started jumping up and down and screaming. A pit boss came out and put leis around my neck and put a high roller's suite on my card, along with meals for two for five days! That was in 90s, when "The Boys" still ran the casinos and knew how to treat players. The suite was nothing like Tom Cruise's suite in "Rain Man" but, it was nice. There was a four person jacuzzi by the window and a jacuzzi bathtub beside the bed. It was definitely luxury but, nothing like "Rain Man". LOL
If I win on a roll at the Craps Table, I automatically tip the Dealers $1 and ask them what they want to do with it. They usually ask to put it on the "Pass" line. Once the point is set, I also put an additional $1 odds on that bet. You're right, the Dealers always remember that and always thank me for it. I'm really superstitious when it comes to gambling, so consider it all of this to be "Good Table Karma".
Watching this is so useful and thank you! And it actually reminds me of a sad story, when I was playing blackjack. I was doing very well so I placed a tip bet for her, and she had no idea what I was doing. I honestly hope it was her first day on the job (but probably not).
Definitely tip your dealers. Most times I'm at the casino, I'm the low roller and the only one consistently tipping. They make your night more enjoyable, always look out for you, and give you preferential treatment usually only given to those buying in with a thousand at a time.
i asked about the tip management...they're all combined so crappy dealers are benefiting, unless they keep them separate by shift, i want to reward the friendly dealers...i've played all tall small for dealers, and it hit...loved that
I just bing watched this series over 2 days, wow I learned so much. Thanks for putting it together. I’m going to Vegas in June for the WSOP and will definitely visit Casino Quest for some practice and strategy ideas before hitting the craps tables. Thanks again guys
I took offense when he started talking about the don’t players coming through cause that is me 😂😂 but I tip. Now that I’ve seen this method....next Vegas trip in August, I’m getting drunk and the dealers are getting tipped 🕺🏾🕺🏾💪🏾
So do I. When I buy in I pull 5/10 off the top and tell them if I run out of money, I don't want to NOT tip you guys. As I win further, I add to the tipping with occasional bets for the dealers. My rational is you tip your waiters for good service even if the chef screws up your meal.
Bunions doesn't allow player control bets, so I used to just add to my bet, but that irritated the boxman. She even told me NOT to do it. Talk about not taking care of your employees. I am on Fremont Street about 6 times/year and haven't been in Bunions in the last 18 months. I do tip the dealers frequently on the line with shoes. I typically get outstanding service and have a lot of fun. In the last 6 months, I have slowed down the tokes a bit; however, I keep some of those bets that I would be making frequently in my rack and about every 4-5 shooters, I give the boys a $12 six or eight place bet. Last month at Circa, I was having a great time and saved up some red chips from winnings and placed a $30 six for the boys. They hit 3, $30 sixes during the roll. Multiple pit/floor people were watching and rooting for them. A good time was had by all.
Saw an older video on tipping the dealer that explained a few options, including pass line. One thing they did with the player pass line bet was add a $1 cap to your pass line bet and with a dollar pass line out for the dealers if the point is hit, dealers win on the pass line bet along with player bet. The dollar cap on your pass line bet win goes out to the pass line for the dealers on the next roll. Essentially using the casino bankroll to tip the dealers out of your winnings. The same concept can be used with pass line odds bets behind the dealers $1 bet. I tried this in Vegas a few years back to some decent success, hitting a few points here and there and the dealers were more into the game and more attentive to my play. It made for a fun and exciting game!
I really started learning and playing craps right before the pandemic. I never knew or saw players playing the line for dealer bets. It was always hard ways or a $1 yo bet for the crew. I did watch a video of Let It Roll and Rick was placing inside numbers for the crew so I started doing that. Thanks to Daddy David and Color Up for doing these videos. I’ve enjoyed them a bunch.
my favorite game is craps, because it's a social game. gambling... whatever. it's entertainment. Craps is great because it's communal, you want to win, you want there to be a hot hand, and the stick guy, the dealer at your end, you want those people to be entertaining. Hopefully looking out for you/helping. Dealers that give you the info, what the amt to bet, or if something is working or not.. etc. I knew about the 2-ways thing. but learning the on the line/shoes thing, and under player control is great info. Thanks for this video.
Very good video! I'm surprised that there are some casinos that don't allow PC (Player Control bets). When they say this, the next time I'll just make my bet and pay them from my winnings. Example: I'll make a $2 hard six, get paid 18 and give them 9.
If a dealer can’t have a good time with Dave & Alex, he needs a new career. Agreed with Dave about toke when getting good service! I always start just as he says, $4 inside my control. If dealer doesn’t acknowledge, no more bets for you! 😂
I was at a casino over the weekend, i player only dark side, $25 for me $5 for dealers. With the $5 chip beside mine, and at least 3 or 4 dealers would ask what that bet was, when the dealers were relieved or new person came to that base. Apparently not many dark siders, and even less that give action to the dealers on every roll. I played for at least an hour without one point being made. Finally an older gentleman finally hit an 8. Colored up for $1000, no odds on that 8 just a quarter.
I will always throw some bets for the dealers, I am usually the only tipper A dealer at the Eastside Cannery, told me to bet the 5 and 6 for him, $1 buck. He said only the dealers can take bets that way, the $1 chip was half on 5, and half 6, I forget how it would pay them. E. Cannery is currently closed for the moment. Thank you for all the great videos, I will have a lot more confidence with new knowledge, for next craps game.
I am new to craps and, frankly, sometimes I leave my brain at home. So, I have to depend on the dealers to help me not miss stuff. I always put them in the game. I tell them that I’m “paying them to babysit me.” They laugh at me and then try to keep me in line and I keep betting for them. It’s a lot of fun
@@ColorUp David has so many fascinating stories from the other side of the table. I would love to hear some of his favorites. Here are some other ideas: Best/successful strategies Worst/failed strategies Press vs Regress Dealing to/playing with actors/athletes/CEOs Superstitions How bad it has been for dealers during COVID Explain the dealer tip share How much dealers make on average local/Vegas strip/Vegas downtown/regional David's pet peeves of players from his dealing days Player rating and comps, and the affects of tokes on the player rating. I've heard David speak about player rating in one his videos. Maybe you have some insight into the comps, or know someone that does, that could shed some light on what comps are available to players that use a rewards card. I think these would all make for interesting craps content.
One of my favorite dealer bets is 2 way yo on come out. Throw out a couple bucks you are both winners. Done this with 10$ before when I was really hot and it hit. Dealers were real happy
I always place my dealer bet on top of my passline bet. If it wins I take the dealer's win and rack it and I rebet the dealer bet. I save the racked chips until I color up and then give it to the dealers. Otherwise, win or lose, they take away that dealer bet and it can get a little expensive to replenish all the time.
Hey David, interesting you talk about betting for the dealers on the Pass Line, I watch your betting live at the Strat and you bet it that way, on the side. I will have to go back and see how they handled it. I always make it a point to teach my students how to tip, also when ever I bet the Yo or some other prop bet I will make a bet for them as well. Another thing I do when I play is I will tip $5 on the first drink, and I will usually never have to ask again and they keep-a-comin! Then I am tipping $10-25 lol. dealer-"The minimum is table max on the Yo" lol
Do the dealers at a crap table get their own tips during their round or are they combined and split later. I’ve noticed at some table games the dealer will bring their own tip can and others they don’t. Very true how a good croupier can really make a game fun. Had great ones in St.Martin. Large group of friends went regularly the same weeks for several years and were always remembered and treated great. Same way at poker table. Always took care of them. Worst were in the Bahamas. Acted like they wished we weren’t there.
I always tip dealers, except the very few who are jerks. Last year I started betting a $4 Iron Cross-- player-controlled..... for them. They win on every roll of course. I control by telling them to take the winnings but leave the bet. I have to replace the $1 Field if it loses, but the other three numbers stay up.......... Winning a tip on every non-7 roll gets them into the game and on my side to keep the roll going.
I normally do double tap into tripplelux - once I'm out of the hand I get the kids up with a $3 6&8 under player control. Each hit, we press and/or spread. The dealers are always locking up a dollar or two. Sometimes if I'm late to start or if I'm only hitting outside numbers I'll bump to $18 across. It only takes a hit or two before they are $32 across. Last week they got around $350 off of a nice roll. They ended up around $160 across based off a $6 seed.
My question is (don't think it was mentioned) do all dealers split their tips? Basically you can't tip a specific dealer because they were good to you, it would go to all of them? And vice versa, if you had one crappy dealer at the end, you should probably still tip if say the other dealers were good before them and you waited til the end to tip since it goes to them all?
i don't automatically tip well if restaurant servers either, luckily servers and dealers are 99% great people. the casino where i play there are a couple people who need to retire, they're cranky...but most are great, remember me, we chat, how's the family, even if losing i'm putting dealers in play, and watch my rack to hand off chips when i leave
Well I know things may be different but at the Casino I work at anything we win we do have to drop but if a players throws us something and tells us we can do what we want we can ride a players bet or they can throw out and call it a two way bet or dealers riding the bet. If we are riding the bet we can stay up. I know that I have gotten to the point when I play I come out there betting all 6 numbers up top and if I put the dealers up there and I like to have the dealers riding so they will stay up but I want to give the dealers the power to do what they want or can with the payout and if things are going good on a roll I add to there bets to try to get there payouts paying better.
I've had great experiences with dealers by simply just asking them how they like to be tipped. Have a dollar out and just say its for them and ask them if they want action. As said in the video apparently the dealers LOVE action so they've always just put it next to my Line bet.
One of most enjoyable tokes for the dealers are piggyback the hardways a $1 each, then parlay the first hit and let it ride in hopes for $70 or $90 on the second hardway that hits. You'll have the entire dice crew screaming and cheering for that parlayed hardway to hit again.
Here’s a question. I decide to play the pass line for myself and $1.00 for the dealer. Pt is 4. I put my odds down. I then put $5.00 odds for the dealer. The point hits. I get my pass line and odds winnings. Do the dealers also win 2:1 on the odds bet i made for them?
I always try to set a good example by tipping the dealers on the pass with odds, hardways, bonuses, even the box numbers but most other players are cheap as hell.
that's what i do, $1 on the line, i hit 4's and 10's, i if i mark 4 or 10...i put a $5 odds, makes me happy to pay the crew....it's my way to have the casino to help me reward the dealers
I just have been throwing a few bucks here and there because I am a DC player using place bets and come bets with odds and hedges hardways and yo's Every roll I have them doing something. I am just starting to play serious craps and I just figured throwing 3 bucks every other couple roll would be fine. And tell them put that in the dealer's rack. Never thought the dealer would prefer placing bets for them. I really keep them busy too. POint, establish a DC, Place across and bet in the come. Bring down place bet Move to max odds keep a bet in the come the whole time. Hardway and yo hedges. It's constant action on each roll. Every now and then bet a horn or field. Keeping them busy. I finally just recently started to position myself at the table next to the DC. I was liking straight across from the dealer so I could see what I was doing and was able to keep up with everything in front and I was shooting the dice well from there. one dealer lady was trying to get me to move and there was another player in that spot so I stayed across from her. Must have put some bad mojo on me because I kept getting hit with PSOs. But the next time I positioned myself in the right spot and ended with 2k in profit. I probably tipped less than 50 bucks for the couple hours I was there. I'm gonna start placing a 5 bucks across for the dealers at least from now on. The dealers are always helping me with this all over the place strategy I have been using.
Can you recommend the BEST and most engaging & Fun dealers??? We are going in late August and we would love to hit up the BEST dealers and be sure to take care of them.
It’s tough to suggest, There was so much turnover during pandemic. It varies from shift to shift as well. There are break in casinos for new dealers, these are the lower end properties. The higher end properties, Cosmo, Belagio etc take years to achieve that level and they are there for a reason. But there also some that are now jaded after dealing fir 30yrs. So even top tier casino doesn’t necessarily guarantee anything. Great thing about Vegas, so many casinos in close proximity. Not having fun with a crew, head to a different one :)
@@ColorUp Thank you for responding! My Wife & I really enjoy your videos, you have dropped some helpful knowledge on us. We are looking to hopefully get some dice and a mat to start practicing soon!
So what if I do bet extra on the side if I’m a don’t pass/ don’t come bettor? Now the dealer will just have to secretly cheer for me. Maybe their tokes will be hedged against the pass tokes.
When placing odds for the dealer, do I need to pay attention to the payout, like if the 5 or 9 is the point. Do my odds bets need to be in $2 increments?
Would pay better but not necessary. on the 5/9 a $2 bet would pay $3 which is nice(3:2 payout) Depending on casino they may round up or down for dealer bets. A $3 bet may round up or down, but a $4 bet would always pay at true odds of $6. You run into that issue with the 6/8 also. Until you get to $5 in odds when they will for sure pay $6, the bet most likely will be rounded down to even money.
I like that $1 place bet for the toke, but I think I would cover all across for $6 so at least if a 4 or 10 is rolled they could get proper odds of $2. Does that make sense?
@@ColorUp well where I work at and the few places I have played at it just gets paid $2 on the 4 and 10 and nothing gets said plus it rarely takes long to get the 4 or 10 bought and if it is bought and the dealer is riding then it will most definitely get $2. But the others numbers tend to calculated closer to correct.
I think it was at least 12 or more years ago when Terrible's was open and offered craps in Jean, NV. I bet $100 and won on rail road tracks which paid $3000. The pit was immediately heads up and pissed! Every time the dice came to me he would harass me into speeding up my handling of the dice - he was rushing me; I suspect he was trying to rattle me into rolling poorly. So I quit rolling and only bet and I began to win on the hard ways eventually getting up to about $1000. The rudeness and anger of the pit was so obvious, people started walking which he started blaming me - for cooling the table. I eventually walked too, and when the pit was not looking I gave $300 to the stick to split with the two other dealers who saw what I did...so the toke was shared - but NOT with the pit. Screw him: he's the one who cooled the table. Interesting scenario. I think Jean NV is closed these days - have not been back since that event with the stupid pit man. Now I live in Colorado and play in Black Hawk. Nice video.
Yeah, some small casinos sweat the money. All casinos will win in the end as long as they have a bankroll behind them, thats why larger casinos are happy to see players win big, they know it will come back to them in time. But those small ones, big wins put a dent in their bottom line. Terribles closed in 2020.
When i bet for the dealer on the hardways, i will " piggyback" the bet meaning if it wins, the dealers get paid and the bet stays up for them. Also when playing for while, when placing a hardway bet for both dealers and myself, i will call out " 31 on the hard 8" meaning $3 for me and $1 for the dealers on the hard 8 for both. And by this time they will know to PIGGYBACK it. See you at DICECON 2022.
Get their attention and say “hey, I didn’t get paid” if they don’t immediately relive mistake and pay you or say they think they did. Then say to boxman, “dealer didn’t pay my bet”
All the good female craps dealers I ever worked with (and 2 of my top 5, including my #1, were female) would have appreciated your sentiment and your gesture more than they would have been offended by your nomenclature. I'm as PC/SJW as they come. But the craps table, for better and for worse, is another world.
Great video! Always tip your dealers! Jeremy If you watch the video on my channel Mel's monster 33 rolls I actually do a bunch of those tips so you can see it all in action. I tipped hard ways and hop bets and place bets and such. Thanks to David for teaming up with you on this series. We need to get David and Alex out here to play with us sometime soon!
Yeah, that would be great
Here is video from Let it roll, showing tips in action th-cam.com/video/UXhvou2D1Cw/w-d-xo.html
Tip your dealers and they, including the box person, will overlook those few times you didn't hit the back wall. Tip your dealers and they didn't hear you book that bet that would have lost on that sudden 7 out.
Tokes = token of appreciation
Great Explanation! As a neophyte craps lover I played at the same small casino in Reo once a year for 6 years during a Conference....I played 2 way Yos on every come out roll. The stick man asked my name.....from then on....even after a year....if That dealer was at the table he announced Gary's Here! He was incredible and a great help for me as a shooter/player. He knew my hard ways were always off on come out....he knew that if any shooter rolled a 6 or 8 as a point I put 10 on that hardway....I missed it more than once and He insisted it was his fault and they paid me. Now I will follow your advice and start with a line bet for them.
Thanks for those tips. I always enjoy when the dealers are in on the action, now I understand it better.
A really good video. I have always tipped by playing hard ways for dealers, but this gives me so many more options. Also, I've never thought of playing pass line or place bets for dealers. Thanks, Jeremy.
Had a great experience with a dealer a week ago. Had a very simple strategy that involved the field. When a 5,6,8 hit, he'd replenish my field for me. He knew my process for press and collect, so much so that I spent about 10 rolls not saying a word while he ran my hand for me.
I was throwing field bets and hard ways in for him almost every hand. After making $1100, I tossed $50 in for them.
👍🏻 that’s how it should go, great experience for the player
Dude that is so awesome!
Learned a ton about tipping the dealers...the first video that truly explains it. Will make my dice game that more fun. Thanks.
Haaa! "Give that baby some shoes."
I love that! I'll be there in a couple of weeks and toking with the dealers. But now, I am a learned student.
I usually place a bet for 10% of whatever I'm betting for me. My favorite bet I've ever made was when I was leaving but, had held $200 out in black and as I was walking past the table said, "Two way Yo! One for me and one for the dealers!" and the guy threw a Yo!
This was at the Mardi Gras Casino in Tunica, MS. The dealers started jumping up and down and screaming. A pit boss came out and put leis around my neck and put a high roller's suite on my card, along with meals for two for five days! That was in 90s, when "The Boys" still ran the casinos and knew how to treat players. The suite was nothing like Tom Cruise's suite in "Rain Man" but, it was nice. There was a four person jacuzzi by the window and a jacuzzi bathtub beside the bed. It was definitely luxury but, nothing like "Rain Man". LOL
Wow!!!
If I win on a roll at the Craps Table, I automatically tip the Dealers $1 and ask them what they want to do with it. They usually ask to put it on the "Pass" line. Once the point is set, I also put an additional $1 odds on that bet. You're right, the Dealers always remember that and always thank me for it. I'm really superstitious when it comes to gambling, so consider it all of this to be "Good Table Karma".
Watching this is so useful and thank you! And it actually reminds me of a sad story, when I was playing blackjack. I was doing very well so I placed a tip bet for her, and she had no idea what I was doing. I honestly hope it was her first day on the job (but probably not).
9:33 'Negative Nancies' Haha. That's the first time I heard that. 🎲🎲✨
Awesome video! Never hear about player control control bets in any book or video before this one. I’m going to try it next time I’m out at a table.
Definitely tip your dealers. Most times I'm at the casino, I'm the low roller and the only one consistently tipping. They make your night more enjoyable, always look out for you, and give you preferential treatment usually only given to those buying in with a thousand at a time.
So glad I found this channel. Have learned a lot. Great hosts
i asked about the tip management...they're all combined so crappy dealers are benefiting, unless they keep them separate by shift, i want to reward the friendly dealers...i've played all tall small for dealers, and it hit...loved that
I just bing watched this series over 2 days, wow I learned so much. Thanks for putting it together. I’m going to Vegas in June for the WSOP and will definitely visit Casino Quest for some practice and strategy ideas before hitting the craps tables. Thanks again guys
I took offense when he started talking about the don’t players coming through cause that is me 😂😂 but I tip. Now that I’ve seen this method....next Vegas trip in August, I’m getting drunk and the dealers are getting tipped 🕺🏾🕺🏾💪🏾
So do I. When I buy in I pull 5/10 off the top and tell them if I run out of money, I don't want to NOT tip you guys. As I win further, I add to the tipping with occasional bets for the dealers. My rational is you tip your waiters for good service even if the chef screws up your meal.
Bunions doesn't allow player control bets, so I used to just add to my bet, but that irritated the boxman. She even told me NOT to do it. Talk about not taking care of your employees. I am on Fremont Street about 6 times/year and haven't been in Bunions in the last 18 months.
I do tip the dealers frequently on the line with shoes. I typically get outstanding service and have a lot of fun. In the last 6 months, I have slowed down the tokes a bit; however, I keep some of those bets that I would be making frequently in my rack and about every 4-5 shooters, I give the boys a $12 six or eight place bet.
Last month at Circa, I was having a great time and saved up some red chips from winnings and placed a $30 six for the boys. They hit 3, $30 sixes during the roll. Multiple pit/floor people were watching and rooting for them. A good time was had by all.
Can’t believe she said don’t add extra buck to bet .... wow
Saw an older video on tipping the dealer that explained a few options, including pass line. One thing they did with the player pass line bet was add a $1 cap to your pass line bet and with a dollar pass line out for the dealers if the point is hit, dealers win on the pass line bet along with player bet. The dollar cap on your pass line bet win goes out to the pass line for the dealers on the next roll. Essentially using the casino bankroll to tip the dealers out of your winnings. The same concept can be used with pass line odds bets behind the dealers $1 bet.
I tried this in Vegas a few years back to some decent success, hitting a few points here and there and the dealers were more into the game and more attentive to my play. It made for a fun and exciting game!
this guy is easy to listen to-really great
Hadn't thought of the pass line bet for the dealers but I love that idea. Gonna do that next time. Cheers 🍻
As a dealer, it is secretly our favorite bet. For multiple reasons.
I really started learning and playing craps right before the pandemic. I never knew or saw players playing the line for dealer bets. It was always hard ways or a $1 yo bet for the crew. I did watch a video of Let It Roll and Rick was placing inside numbers for the crew so I started doing that.
Thanks to Daddy David and Color Up for doing these videos. I’ve enjoyed them a bunch.
Going to Vegas at the end of the month and will be toking the dealers with pass line with odds. Great video! Love it! Keep it up!
my favorite game is craps, because it's a social game. gambling... whatever. it's entertainment. Craps is great because it's communal, you want to win, you want there to be a hot hand, and the stick guy, the dealer at your end, you want those people to be entertaining. Hopefully looking out for you/helping. Dealers that give you the info, what the amt to bet, or if something is working or not.. etc. I knew about the 2-ways thing. but learning the on the line/shoes thing, and under player control is great info. Thanks for this video.
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Monster thanks, I'm brand new to craps,, and you guys teach it all.. I always TIP the Roulette dealers,, Now I know how in Craps
Glad to help
Very good video! I'm surprised that there are some casinos that don't allow PC (Player Control bets). When they say this, the next time I'll just make my bet and pay them from my winnings. Example: I'll make a $2 hard six, get paid 18 and give them 9.
If a dealer can’t have a good time with Dave & Alex, he needs a new career. Agreed with Dave about toke when getting good service! I always start just as he says, $4 inside my control. If dealer doesn’t acknowledge, no more bets for you! 😂
If the dealer doesn't acknowledge you toking, then everyone in the break room should bitch at him.
I was at a casino over the weekend, i player only dark side, $25 for me $5 for dealers. With the $5 chip beside mine, and at least 3 or 4 dealers would ask what that bet was, when the dealers were relieved or new person came to that base. Apparently not many dark siders, and even less that give action to the dealers on every roll. I played for at least an hour without one point being made. Finally an older gentleman finally hit an 8. Colored up for $1000, no odds on that 8 just a quarter.
The house I dealt at had very few dark side players and very few of those very few tipped, just as you surmised.
@@BestServedCold10 i had fun, i kept my mouth shut, was nice and made money. I could have stayed all-day.
@@DioguardiAS You're a dream player then and the dealers respect you. I thank you on their behalf.
Great info we have two tables that take down the bet every time you put one up for them,and they do not let you have player controll.This will help
Yep, just bet extra dollar on your bet, and hand in to them :)
I will always throw some bets for the dealers, I am usually the only tipper A dealer at the Eastside Cannery, told me to bet the 5 and 6 for him, $1 buck. He said only the dealers can take bets that way, the $1 chip was half on 5, and half 6, I forget how it would pay them. E. Cannery is currently closed for the moment. Thank you for all the great videos, I will have a lot more confidence with new knowledge, for next craps game.
It pays just a little over $1, but many casinos allow the dealer tips to round up, so they win $2 for that $1 bet :)
When I shoot and play the ATS I’ll usually go $5/$5/$5 and $2/$1/$2for the dealers. Usually do some 2 way hard ways too.
I am new to craps and, frankly, sometimes I leave my brain at home. So, I have to depend on the dealers to help me not miss stuff. I always put them in the game. I tell them that I’m “paying them to babysit me.” They laugh at me and then try to keep me in line and I keep betting for them. It’s a lot of fun
Love the series! Can't wait to see what else you guys have for us!
Sadly that’s it for now...any suggestions for what we do next?
@@ColorUp David has so many fascinating stories from the other side of the table. I would love to hear some of his favorites. Here are some other ideas:
Best/successful strategies
Worst/failed strategies
Press vs Regress
Dealing to/playing with actors/athletes/CEOs
Superstitions
How bad it has been for dealers during COVID
Explain the dealer tip share
How much dealers make on average local/Vegas strip/Vegas downtown/regional
David's pet peeves of players from his dealing days
Player rating and comps, and the affects of tokes on the player rating. I've heard David speak about player rating in one his videos. Maybe you have some insight into the comps, or know someone that does, that could shed some light on what comps are available to players that use a rewards card.
I think these would all make for interesting craps content.
Thanks for the clarification on "Two-Way" . I found it confusing when trying to understand hop bets.
One of my favorite dealer bets is 2 way yo on come out. Throw out a couple bucks you are both winners. Done this with 10$ before when I was really hot and it hit. Dealers were real happy
this was really informative. thanks dudes
Fantastic Video. I really learned a lot!! Thanks
I always place my dealer bet on top of my passline bet. If it wins I take the dealer's win and rack it and I rebet the dealer bet. I save the racked chips until I color up and then give it to the dealers. Otherwise, win or lose, they take away that dealer bet and it can get a little expensive to replenish all the time.
however you like to tip is awesome
Hey David, interesting you talk about betting for the dealers on the Pass Line, I watch your betting live at the Strat and you bet it that way, on the side. I will have to go back and see how they handled it. I always make it a point to teach my students how to tip, also when ever I bet the Yo or some other prop bet I will make a bet for them as well. Another thing I do when I play is I will tip $5 on the first drink, and I will usually never have to ask again and they keep-a-comin! Then I am tipping $10-25 lol. dealer-"The minimum is table max on the Yo" lol
I like to put $5/# on hard ways for me, and $5/# for the crew. They seem to love it. Never got blanked, have always hit at least one.
Please don't say this is the last colour up it's been a great series, I've learnt a lot. Thank you so much
So nice of you...last for now
If you make toke for the dealers and that bet looses, do the dealers still get that toke or does it go to the casino?
Excellent video.Love getting dealers in game with me.🥃
How are the Tips divided ...
To all the Dealers?
Paid daily/weekly ?
Is it taxed ?
Do the dealers at a crap table get their own tips during their round or are they combined and split later. I’ve noticed at some table games the dealer will bring their own tip can and others they don’t. Very true how a good croupier can really make a game fun. Had great ones in St.Martin. Large group of friends went regularly the same weeks for several years and were always remembered and treated great. Same way at poker table. Always took care of them. Worst were in the Bahamas. Acted like they wished we weren’t there.
I always tip dealers, except the very few who are jerks. Last year I started betting a $4 Iron Cross-- player-controlled..... for them. They win on every roll of course. I control by telling them to take the winnings but leave the bet. I have to replace the $1 Field if it loses, but the other three numbers stay up.......... Winning a tip on every non-7 roll gets them into the game and on my side to keep the roll going.
Never thought of iron cross, great idea!
I normally do double tap into tripplelux - once I'm out of the hand I get the kids up with a $3 6&8 under player control. Each hit, we press and/or spread. The dealers are always locking up a dollar or two. Sometimes if I'm late to start or if I'm only hitting outside numbers I'll bump to $18 across. It only takes a hit or two before they are $32 across. Last week they got around $350 off of a nice roll. They ended up around $160 across based off a $6 seed.
Love it, thanks for sharing your method
My question is (don't think it was mentioned) do all dealers split their tips? Basically you can't tip a specific dealer because they were good to you, it would go to all of them? And vice versa, if you had one crappy dealer at the end, you should probably still tip if say the other dealers were good before them and you waited til the end to tip since it goes to them all?
Varies by casino. Some split between all table dealers per shift. Some just split with those at table, and sometimes they get to keep their own tips.
i don't automatically tip well if restaurant servers either, luckily servers and dealers are 99% great people. the casino where i play there are a couple people who need to retire, they're cranky...but most are great, remember me, we chat, how's the family, even if losing i'm putting dealers in play, and watch my rack to hand off chips when i leave
I usually tip the dealers directly, but might place beats for dealers more often.
I always bet the bonus numbers for crew 2-1-2 or if im up i put 5-5-5 on bonus numbers for them after i color up n leave
Well I know things may be different but at the Casino I work at anything we win we do have to drop but if a players throws us something and tells us we can do what we want we can ride a players bet or they can throw out and call it a two way bet or dealers riding the bet. If we are riding the bet we can stay up. I know that I have gotten to the point when I play I come out there betting all 6 numbers up top and if I put the dealers up there and I like to have the dealers riding so they will stay up but I want to give the dealers the power to do what they want or can with the payout and if things are going good on a roll I add to there bets to try to get there payouts paying better.
I've had great experiences with dealers by simply just asking them how they like to be tipped. Have a dollar out and just say its for them and ask them if they want action. As said in the video apparently the dealers LOVE action so they've always just put it next to my Line bet.
Great point
One of most enjoyable tokes for the dealers are piggyback the hardways a $1 each, then parlay the first hit and let it ride in hopes for $70 or $90 on the second hardway that hits. You'll have the entire dice crew screaming and cheering for that parlayed hardway to hit again.
Hey I'm a darksider and I tip like a boss!
Nice! Not all bad guys
Here’s a question. I decide to play the pass line for myself and $1.00 for the dealer. Pt is 4. I put my odds down. I then put $5.00 odds for the dealer. The point hits. I get my pass line and odds winnings. Do the dealers also win 2:1 on the odds bet i made for them?
They would yes
I always try to set a good example by tipping the dealers on the pass with odds, hardways, bonuses, even the box numbers but most other players are cheap as hell.
Can’t believe you never mentioned a two way yo!
Maybe it was implied when he said tip yo dealers?
Dark side grinder...I always toke
Same. I'm very positive about that seven though.
that's what i do, $1 on the line, i hit 4's and 10's, i if i mark 4 or 10...i put a $5 odds, makes me happy to pay the crew....it's my way to have the casino to help me reward the dealers
love it
I'm pretty good at picking field bets. Once or twice a shooter I throw a 2-5$ bet for the crew.
Explain the 70's song,, One Toke Over The Line..... was that 3dognight?.
no I think it was brewer & Shipley
A token of appreciation
I just have been throwing a few bucks here and there because I am a DC player using place bets and come bets with odds and hedges hardways and yo's Every roll I have them doing something. I am just starting to play serious craps and I just figured throwing 3 bucks every other couple roll would be fine. And tell them put that in the dealer's rack. Never thought the dealer would prefer placing bets for them. I really keep them busy too. POint, establish a DC, Place across and bet in the come. Bring down place bet Move to max odds keep a bet in the come the whole time. Hardway and yo hedges. It's constant action on each roll. Every now and then bet a horn or field. Keeping them busy. I finally just recently started to position myself at the table next to the DC. I was liking straight across from the dealer so I could see what I was doing and was able to keep up with everything in front and I was shooting the dice well from there. one dealer lady was trying to get me to move and there was another player in that spot so I stayed across from her. Must have put some bad mojo on me because I kept getting hit with PSOs. But the next time I positioned myself in the right spot and ended with 2k in profit. I probably tipped less than 50 bucks for the couple hours I was there. I'm gonna start placing a 5 bucks across for the dealers at least from now on. The dealers are always helping me with this all over the place strategy I have been using.
Great information
Thank you for this
Was playing last night and a guy threw in 25 on the 11 for the dealer. Hit for $375 dealers had a great night.
🤩 fun to see things like that
well this answers my "player control" question
One of my favorite ways to tip - 6/8 hard was 5/1 - on a hit - I go to 10 then dealer takes 5 n goes to 5.
I usually bet $1 pass line max odds for the dealer. If the shooter 7s out, does the dealer get any part of the toke?
Nope, if a bet for dealer is lost, they get none. Why some prefer just a hand in vs betting for them.
Can you recommend the BEST and most engaging & Fun dealers??? We are going in late August and we would love to hit up the BEST dealers and be sure to take care of them.
It’s tough to suggest, There was so much turnover during pandemic. It varies from shift to shift as well. There are break in casinos for new dealers, these are the lower end properties. The higher end properties, Cosmo, Belagio etc take years to achieve that level and they are there for a reason. But there also some that are now jaded after dealing fir 30yrs. So even top tier casino doesn’t necessarily guarantee anything. Great thing about Vegas, so many casinos in close proximity. Not having fun with a crew, head to a different one :)
@@ColorUp Thank you for responding! My Wife & I really enjoy your videos, you have dropped some helpful knowledge on us. We are looking to hopefully get some dice and a mat to start practicing soon!
@@Aztek0074 Glad you are enjoying. Once you get your own hands moving chips around for practice it really helps speed up understanding of game :)
So what if I do bet extra on the side if I’m a don’t pass/ don’t come bettor? Now the dealer will just have to secretly cheer for me. Maybe their tokes will be hedged against the pass tokes.
Hopefully they are grateful no matter the outcome
When placing odds for the dealer, do I need to pay attention to the payout, like if the 5 or 9 is the point. Do my odds bets need to be in $2 increments?
Would pay better but not necessary. on the 5/9 a $2 bet would pay $3 which is nice(3:2 payout) Depending on casino they may round up or down for dealer bets. A $3 bet may round up or down, but a $4 bet would always pay at true odds of $6. You run into that issue with the 6/8 also. Until you get to $5 in odds when they will for sure pay $6, the bet most likely will be rounded down to even money.
I like that $1 place bet for the toke, but I think I would cover all across for $6 so at least if a 4 or 10 is rolled they could get proper odds of $2. Does that make sense?
Well that would pay $1.90 and I think round down to $1 😡
@@ColorUp Ugh! You're right! I was thinking come bet odds. Never-mind!
@@ColorUp well where I work at and the few places I have played at it just gets paid $2 on the 4 and 10 and nothing gets said plus it rarely takes long to get the 4 or 10 bought and if it is bought and the dealer is riding then it will most definitely get $2. But the others numbers tend to calculated closer to correct.
I have a casino where I live that doesn’t let the dealers press bets. This is a great way to do it for them. Thanks! Going to try it next time out.
How would you ask for $1 tokens without sounding cheap?
"change please" doesn't sound cheap, usually if changing for $1 chips, they are hoping you plan on tipping
By asking for 1 dollars tokens
17:12 Slippery Timmy sighting!
Winner! First to notice...or at least comment :)
Good video!
Helpful info
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching
Tokes is an old term. It came from back in the day when dealers got tipped with $1 slot machine tokens.
When I broke in at Harrahs in 1968 I was told that a good was short for a token of appreciation.
Just Saying
If you are putting tokes in play for the dealers, but they keep losing, should I feel bad?
Nope. You could ask if they prefer just to hand in tip. Most I’ve run across prefer to gamble with me, and in that case, no don’t feel bad.
I toke every morning 💨
I think it was at least 12 or more years ago when Terrible's was open and offered craps in Jean, NV. I bet $100 and won on rail road tracks which paid $3000. The pit was immediately heads up and pissed! Every time the dice came to me he would harass me into speeding up my handling of the dice - he was rushing me; I suspect he was trying to rattle me into rolling poorly. So I quit rolling and only bet and I began to win on the hard ways eventually getting up to about $1000. The rudeness and anger of the pit was so obvious, people started walking which he started blaming me - for cooling the table.
I eventually walked too, and when the pit was not looking I gave $300 to the stick to split with the two other dealers who saw what I did...so the toke was shared - but NOT with the pit. Screw him: he's the one who cooled the table. Interesting scenario. I think Jean NV is closed these days - have not been back since that event with the stupid pit man.
Now I live in Colorado and play in Black Hawk.
Nice video.
Yeah, some small casinos sweat the money. All casinos will win in the end as long as they have a bankroll behind them, thats why larger casinos are happy to see players win big, they know it will come back to them in time. But those small ones, big wins put a dent in their bottom line. Terribles closed in 2020.
When i bet for the dealer on the hardways, i will " piggyback" the bet meaning if it wins, the dealers get paid and the bet stays up for them. Also when playing for while, when placing a hardway bet for both dealers and myself, i will call out " 31 on the hard 8" meaning $3 for me and $1 for the dealers on the hard 8 for both. And by this time they will know to PIGGYBACK it. See you at DICECON 2022.
What do you do when your dealer doesn't pay you? ... real question.... last time in Cherokee, that happened twice ...
Get their attention and say “hey, I didn’t get paid” if they don’t immediately relive mistake and pay you or say they think they did. Then say to boxman, “dealer didn’t pay my bet”
Tokes is short for " tokens of appreciation"
Did not know any of this! Give him a toke lets smoke. Give the baby some shoes.
I always bet $1 dealer choice when I walk up to the table and then $1 dealer choice whenever I win
I always say "this is for the boys" when I place line bets for the dealers. Or place the 6 for the boys...etc
Tokes are short for "tokens of appreciation"
I would put $1 on each of the hard ways for the dealers usually
Tip?! whats that 🤷♂️
Some Casinos will allow full Player Control
Can I just throw down $12 and say “$12 across, player control”?
In the casinos that allow player control, yes. That would work, I would slightly alter and say "$12 across for the dealers, player control" :)
So has "for the crew" replaced "for the boys" as the dealer bet call? I know dealers don't usually care they just appreciate the bet.
I’m guessing PC version
I'm guessing since there are lady dealers now. It's not the boys club anymore.
All the good female craps dealers I ever worked with (and 2 of my top 5, including my #1, were female) would have appreciated your sentiment and your gesture more than they would have been offended by your nomenclature.
I'm as PC/SJW as they come. But the craps table, for better and for worse, is another world.
Full Service
Toke bet , is a token of appreciation. Tips are, to insure prompt service.
It’s “TOKES” because David says so!
TIPS = To insure prompt service
Tokes = Token of appreciation
Ah that’s great, thank you