Craps Players - Stop it!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024
- Craps Players - Stop it In this video we discuss a play that craps players do, but should stop. When playing the dark side in craps sometimes call "no action" or remove there bets once a point is established they do not like. While the casino allows the removal of a don't bet, you should never do this. I explain why this is a bad idea, and I give an alternate solution that is much better.
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I had been removing Don't Pass occasionally but now that you mention it this makes so much sense to just bet on the number to hedge it. Wild how these little things eek by when you're starting out
So many aspects to this game, thats why I love it!
I think I’m gonna get yelled at playing like this 😂
Very informative and well put together video sir... I would just like to add that as a long time casino employee I know that a lot of casinos nowadays won’t allow this action due to the lack of % of favor for the house... I’ve worked at some that would either make you take/lay odds on your don’t/pass line bets or would automatically take down the opposing bet of the one you preferred... also this type of play would easily upset your dealers unless you were making corresponding bets for them while you played this way... just wanted to add my 2¢... again great and informative video and I look forward to watching some of your others... 👍👋
why would it upset the dealers?
@pannoni4875 But it's not the dealers money. I can't comprehend why any dealer would be upset with someone hedging their bets.
When ever placing bets on dont pass or dont come, always make them multiplies of six (6, 12, 18, etc. ...). Then placing the appropriate place bets will create a win-push situation on the 6 or 8, and win-win situations on the 5-9 and the 4-10.
Thank you
just don't lose more $ on the 6 & 8 quickies than your total don't bets. I see people do this often and I want to choke them out. i.e. press, press... then waaa waaa waaaaaa.
Sorry - craps beginner - is the appropriate bet to make equivalent place bets? Meaning if I bet $18 on the dont pass and the point goes to 5, put $18 on the place 5 bet?
@@3fifteen11 You could make a $15 Place bet on the 5.
If the 5 rolls, you would win $21.
Well explained. If I have a15, 20, or 25 DP or DC and a 6 or 8 comes, I will place one unit lower, 6,12,or 24 and put a dollar on the Hard Way. You still have the advantage and the chance to use it for a small win or loss.
Thanks for sharing. I think this perfect for playing conservatively. You stay in the game long enough to catch a hot roll, n as u stated u can at least break even n not leave the tables broke. 👌🏽👍🏽
7/11 on a DP/DC will eventually break you.
I wouldn't advise this as a strategy, just a warning....don't remove your don't numbers
you lose money faster this way tho. better to let the don't bet stay in action and not place anything
Cool strategy. Basically you’re breaking out even until a long shooter comes out to increase profit on numbers. At least that’s what I got from it. Thanks. I don’t play much craps anymore but I remember same shooters in action for like 30 minutes. Those are the sessions I think this will come in handy.
The trick is knowing when that is going to happen BEFORE it happens. Who has the ability?
I like this. Low risk, slow wins but still engaging. Beats drumming your fingers by just playing the pass or don't pass. Just throw in a field bet Stern style for kicks. Or not. You can enjoy the game w less chance of it getting away from you.
Great minimal risk strategy! Just my style lol!!!
I've pulled down don't bets before when a shooter is getting hot. This is a WAY better system. thanks.
great vid man. i'm a novice and still learning the game (was playing a lot b4 this damn covid19). I'm a dark side player and always took down the 6 & 8 DC. Will definitely employ this strategy nex time out.
if you are not shooting wait for the point to be 5 6 or 8. Then place 30 on each of those numbers and 15 dollars on the field. Every roll is a winner except a seven. try and take three or 4 rolls then take your bets down and go the the dont come. Once your bets are down and you are on the dont come you are favored. Always LAY THE ODDS at max. Playing both sides on the same roll is quite effective.
Here's a tip. Some of you might be thinking well I just want to switch sides and go with the shooter so why keep my DC bet. Even if you wanted to switch sides and bet the Six and Eight and go with the shooter for whatever reason... it is still better to keep the DC bet. All you do is just double the bet of what you would have placed it for had you took the DC bet down.
For example, say you had a DC bet of $5 on the Eight and you are SURE the shooter is going to hit it and you want to place bet it. Instead of placing it for $6 and bringing the DC bet down, place it for $12 and keep your DC bet up. Looks weird right? Well do the math. Instead of risking $6 to win $7 you are risking $7 to win $9. Slightly better. And you can always reduce the Place bet or whatever you want to do if the DC bet loses.
It gets even better at the higher bets. Say you have a $30 DC bet on the Six and you want to Place Bet if for $30 and bring the DC down. Again, just double what you would have bet and make a Place Bet of $60 and keep the DC up. Now you are risking the same $30 you would have risked but now you win $40 instead of $35. Again just do the quick math.
So, it is ALWAYS better to keep the DC up even if you want to switch sides.
So in the end you risked the 30 on the DONT comeout only to lose 30. As you know, that is the most likely outcome. If you want follow your gut, then do it! Take the 30 off the DONT and place 60 and to win 70. Hard to actually win in craps if you don't attack when you have the advantage position you earned via risk.
@@ahbalone
That's still flawed thinking. If you have a $30 Don't already and want to switch sides it still makes no sense to remove the Don't bet. If you want to place $60 to win $70 do this instead... Keep the $30 Dont and place $90. Still only risking $60 but if you hit the place bet you win $105 minus the $30 Don't for a total win of $75 not $70 and risking the same $60. So again... Never remove the Don't it's just giving the casino free money.
@@breakingcrapsAgain, you bet 30 DONT and got nervous with 6 or 8 so you hedge against a DONT bet you now have an earned advantage on. The most like result of your 90 place bet? You lost $60 this time. I'm saying "shit or get off the pot" - don't dilute your position. Hedging against your own advantage on a hunch is never a good winning play. But if you think you know what's coming, do a 100% switch to the DO side and you might get lucky and win. The smarter play is to add full ODDS on the DONT bet and play the low house adv. One foot in two boats will eventually sink you.
Good video.
This is a good strategy for most players who don’t have enough at the table to take the swings.
The catch 22 with the hedge game is that beginners usually don’t do it bc they are just learning the long way first.
Not sure I would call this a strategy
Hi Color Up, Thanks for the videos. I love your explaining and the camera view. Can you make a video on this strategy only so we get a better understanding and also if you can make some videos on Vince’s hedging strategy please...
I will continue to make as many vids as i can, thanks for watching
Watch the table for a don't bettor that takes down his 6/8 and offer to buy them from him. That's a way to avoid the come out roll and have the odds(as slight as they may be) in your favor.
This video was the best I've seen as far as general playing strategy. The rolls were perfect and the tutorial was very helpful.
Thanks for watching and your comment
@@ColorUp I've been a lurker but I just subbed. The explanation of No Action and when to leave your places On/Off, inside/outside win positions, etc. really sunk in watching this video.
Glad you subbed, thanks.
I play this way a lot! Especially if I’m at a new table. It’s a great way to ease into a game.
Awesome video. After putting a bet on the DC. Now I understand why the dealer would ask me if I wanted to pull my bet back after the dice was thrown especially if it was a 6 or 8.
Dealers ask because its very common for players to do that, but its a bad idea
Wow never thought of it like that!!! I see some don't players wave off the dealer if the point of 6 or 8 is established and then rebet the don't pass. Going through the 'hard part' again. Great video!! Also a good way to show action while heding your bets.
Yep, bad idea to wave it off on any number
Would this get you rated better at the casino playing this way? You are turning more money thru the table with those place bets therefore increasing your ADT with those higher house edge place bets (especially that 5 and 9). Curious if any of my friends on here with a better understanding of comps and ratings could comment.
Color up, another Great video and good low roller, scared player strat.
Tyrone Powers it would not get a better rate. This strategy does keep you on the table longer so that will improve your rate. Seeing as these bets are off setting it basically negates them. It would be like betting $1000 banker and $1000 player in Bacc. Dealer tips, being a cool dude will help improve your rate as well. Jsyk
Any smart manager would only rate you for the don't pass/come action as the hedge stuff is offsetting, but who knows, table game ratings are terribly inconsistent on how they rate for comps.
I agree with the inconsistency part, I believe they only go by your pass line bet that they see when you activate your card and it runs off of a rolls per minute average pre set by the algorithm. I think if you put it in and make your first few pass line bets of $100 the system will calculate your entre time there at $100/ whatever time interval
@@Sweetchilliheat18 - They spot people who try that - black chips to start - pit turns back, reds come out - . These people weren't born yesterday.
I used to do both don't pass and pass when I was throwing. If my 3 v set hit 6 or 8 I would them move the don't pass to pass odds. Worked great at horseshoe in bossier. I've left horseshoe with 11k off 600 buy in.
This a great video and strategy if your goal is to play for a very long time but still lose all of your money eventually...smh
this is not a strategy… just a warning, do not remove dont bets
This is basically the strategy I asked about the other day. Thanks for the video!!!
ok, cool
Dude, you just turned craps into a better break even game than pai gow
Do you have a video on how to deal craps? Mainly I don’t understand the correct odd bets and payouts. Thanks for the great videos.
Not specific on how to deal but this might help. th-cam.com/video/oPj6Nk4qXjA/w-d-xo.html
I always play the roullet but after these nice videos I'm gonna try this nice game
Awesome video, had not thought of this before. Always something new to learn about craps.
That's why I play my Don't Come for 25. The 4/10 plays for $20, pays $36...gain of $5 or $16. The 5/9 plays for $20, pays $28...gain of $5 or $3. The 6/8 plays for $24, pays $28...gain of $1 or $3. You need a bigger bank roll, but it is easier to overcome the loss of yo or red on the come-out roll.
Why not play at $30on the 4/10 buy for $25($26 if pre-buy) on a 7 you win $4-5, on the point you win $19. With the 5/9 $25 pays $35 so you win $5 either way and on the 6/8 $30 pays 35 so its a push on 7 or $5 on the point.
@3:37 a guy can be a Don’t Pass player also by making a min Pass Line bet on come out. Then, per your example, if come out is 8, on second roll make a Don’t Come bet & hedge with a smaller Hard 8 bet. Many options. Glad I stumbled onto yours. Thanks for sharing!
Notice that the 12 only pays double on the Field? This is becoming more commonplace here in Vegas--sweeping through faster than 6:5 BJ
yeah, rare to find triple anymore
You may not lose much money when constantly just hedging but you lose something far more valuable - your time! May as well take a risk to win some money otherwise this is just a big waste of time. Hard to argue that it's entertainment value either because you're always worrying about the worst possible outcome and hedging- not to mention everyone will look at you sideways
A few 7s and 11s in the come out can decimate your roll if you choose to go this route. Get through that first roll 9 out of 10 times and u basically guaranteed a win.
This is not a suggest way to play, but a warning for those that pull there don't bets down AFTER a point is set. Stop doing that people :)
My bad, Color Up.
You are 1000 percent correct, by the way. I dealt craps for about 2 years and I must say 95% of DC players do not travel to the 6 and 8.
Jason Emerson really? That many wouldn’t travel to 6/8? Wow They got some bad teaching. If you are afraid of number, just hedge it, but my goodness, you already beat the casino at that point.
Another great video. I like the hedge on the 6, 8. I would just assume play the 4, 5, 9 and 10 out however as you are at least a 3-2 favorite so I'll take my chances with that!!
Really should play the 6/8 too with your advantage, but if ya don't like, at least hedge it
Any time you survive the Comeout roll on a Don't bet, ride it out to the end. No hedge - no Hardways, no nothing. You can lay as much odds as your heart will allow - but, and I stress this: You made the Don't bet initially. That was your 'gut' or your mojo or your whatever. If you start tampering with that and hedging it or anything to alter it 'for safety', you are only opening yourself up to not being able to see anything through to the end, and you may miss out on some great opportunities as a result. The saying is: scared money don't make money. The solution to having a bunch of Don't bets picked off by a hot shooter is to stop making them! Or switch sides. If you switch and the dice switch at the same time, it's one of two things - 1) not your night; 2) game is rigged.
If you already have the advantage after the come out roll when betting the "don't pass", why would you then bet "against" it and limit your now winning advantage? At that point, why not just let it ride "with an advantage"?
Thats the point of video, you shouldn't! But people do it all the time and take their bets down. The video says don't take down, at least place bet so in no lose situation. I recommend just let it ride.
@@ColorUp i move my dont pass to pass line if the point becomes 6 or 8. I loike playing those numbers with odds
@@drewdown826 - What color is the Limo they send to pick you up?
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 green?
Like it's been said before... "any strategy works, but only under certain circumstances". Hard to play this way when there are back-to-back-to-back 7's or 7/11 then the point is made.
If my Don't Pass gets knocked down back-to-back, I stop betting on that hand and wait for the next shooter. I don't want to get run over by a monster. "Now, where's that waitress?"
This is not a strategy, just a warning for those that call off their don'ts when they travel to numbers they don't like
I was in Vegas this last week. I saw a guy that played strictly the dark side. But, when the point was a 6 or 8 he would wave off the dealer and not allow his don’t to be moved to either of those numbers. I didn’t know that was possible but I saw it happen quite a few times. He only allowed the dealer to move his don’t to 4,5,9 or 10.
Yep, not smart
You should have asked to buy the bet from him, then, if you're nervous about it, place it for a near amount and make enough to buy a couple winning PowerBall tickets.
Thank you for your tutorial! Your explanations are concise!
Much appreciated!!!
Thanks!
“GREAT video, thanks!!!! Awesome low risk strategy, and way to build comps.
not really, your average bet will be one cheque. If you're playing $10 bets as in the video your average bet in the rating system will be $10 even with $60 on the layout. once you have the hedges in you aren't "at risk" no loss no average bet.
here is my system a modified iron cross. I only play when the point is 5 6 or 8 and I do not make a pass bet. I place 30 on the 5 6 and 8 and 15 on the field. I try to squeeze three or four rolls then take my bets down hopefully dodging a seven. Then I play the dont come.Once im on the dont come im a favorite over the house.
I see you take the time to reply, thank you! I would say for this video you should have shown the results for someone who did not hedge at all.
I do my best to reply, thanks for your thoughts
More Darkside Strategies pls!
Will do :)
I am loving all of your videos. I really want to try out craps now. Thank you!
It’s a fun game
Thank you! Never thought of this.
Haha "ass line" 😂
I find that the biggest case of players giving up house edge is making come bets with no odds. When the casino ups the table minimum to $15, I often see players make come bets with no odds or only 1x odds rather than making place bets. This means a lower payout for the same amount of money risked. If you don't have the bankroll to take full odds... place bets are always better than come bets.
4-5x odds is required to get paid more than equivalent amount made in place bet
I bet heavier odds on the 6 and 8 than the other points
There is a way to hedge your come out if you are a don't pass player.
On the come out only, you could place an equivalent bet on the any seven or eleven right? Is there something I am missing?
Kieth Mergard if another number then 7-11 come out, you lose you're bet. So it's not an edge .... instead you could add 1 dollar on the 11 roll and get 15$ if it's roll and lose 1$ if not ...
I like this video you made for us. So clearly explained. The only thing I wouldn't enjoy is the very low profit when you hedge the place bet against the Don't. I'd just go for the edge you have on all numbers and try to get paid much more. I have one question. If you have $100 Don't on the 4 (or 10) and Lay $100 odds. You get $350 back. But if you bet the same $200 on the 4 (or 10) without the Lay you win $400 back. What's wrong with this? Is it bad to bet the entire $200 at one time or what?
Nope, fine option, but the come out roll you have a big disadvantage, as there are 8 ways to lose and only 3 ways to win. After point set and you can lay odds, player always has advantage. Just depends how the dice roll :)
In Vegas as I send this. Up $700. Was lucky on a few gut feeling with horn bets. I’ll try this tonight … The Mirage btw.. 🦍 together 💪
I hope you were able to color up for the trip!
I understand the point you make with a $25 Don’t Pass bet, but a $5 or $10 bet you may as well pull the bet down if the outcome is a guaranteed break even.
I’m that case I would just leave up, player has the advantage, no reason to hedge, and certainly no reason to pull down.
This is pretty much a 3 pt. Blender
Strategy ! I actually like this ! 🎲🎲⚜️
This video is not a way to play, just reminder, never pull down a don’t bet!
Why break even when you can put don't pass odds down once poitis established? Plus, if don't pass is not contractual, then you should be able to remove it and keep playing don't pass odds.
You can't remove your flat bet and still get the don't pass odds... if that is what you meant.
The point of video was some people do not like certain don't numbers (6/8 usually) and remove them. They certainly wouldn't add odds to them. This is not a suggestion to play this way, its just a warning "do not remove your don't bet after established or call no action" Also you cannot play the don't pass odds without the underlaying flat bet.
ALWAYS travel on the dont's. I also laugh at no action calls😃... 7 is your friend👍
I am guilty of this :D Interesting strategy. Looks like it can be a very slow paced winner. I would like to see you get a bit more advanced; play the 5 / 9, put odds behind 4 / 10.
I wouldn't call this a strategy, its just a better option for those don't players that call off their action - which is not a good idea
funny i learned how to play craps only using the come bar. always learning new way to play this game. thanks
Great video!! One thing wanted to verify...once the point is established and I then come up to the craps table as a new player I can immediately place a bet on the Pass Line but I CAN NOT place a bet on the Don't Pass Line. I've been told that a Don't Pass bet must be made before the point is made but a Pass Line bet can be made before and after the point is made. I'm think I'm correct but can someone verify if I am correct?
You have that correct and here is why. For the come out roll, the pass line has 8 ways to win and 4 ways to lose. After the come out roll the pass line is more likely to lose than to win. The casino will gladly allow you to bet the pass at this point, as you have no advantage and more likely to lose. You should never do this by the way. For the don't pass...The come out roll is the disadvantage, with 3 ways to win and 8 ways to lose, but after point is set, the don't pass is more likely to win vs every point number, and therefore why the casino will not allow a don't pass bet at this moment of the game.
@@ColorUp Thanks for verifying appreciate it!!
Thank you for explaining that. I’m new to the game really. What about the 6 8 big. May I ask what that does please?
It's just an even money place bet on 6 or 8. It only pays even money but you can bet it in increments of 5$ instead of $6. But it pays worse so you're better off placing the 6/8 for $6 to make $7
Thank you. I I appreciate it.
Perfect answer @mheslet11
You can overcome that powerful 7 on the come out roll by playing and equal amount on the Pass line AND the Don't pass line.
Doey dont, allowed most places, just have to beware the 12
You can pick up your don't pass while shooting the dice just pass to the next shooter and you can also move it to the pass line and then take odds.
If you are the shooter, you can remove your Don't Pass bet.
You just have to make a Put bet after the come out roll.
hi i want to ask a question. have you seen a casino stick man call no roll when the dice accidentally hits a players hands but calls nothing if the dice hits a dealers hands that intentionally puts there hands in the way?
I have seen it called both ways, i wouldn't read too much into it. Dealers want you to win (tips) they aren't trying to call you a seven out, it just seems that way when it goes that way.
Dealer is considered part of the table!
seems like the would be a decent bubble craps strategy if u wanna grind it out
The greatest DC craps video ever thank you
Question: Are you sure the casinos would let me make a Place Bet on a Point?
Yes, if there is an exception let me know. Bubble machines, is a different story, and most I’ve seen will not allow placing against a don’t point.
I take the opposite view. When I bet don't come, I always hop the seven AND bet the horn. I also will REMOVE my don't come bet if it lands on a 4 or 10. The 1 for 2 odds payment are just not adequately reimbursing for my risk. In most cases, I will hit two horn numbers back to back before I hit two don't come numbers in a row. The key is betting heavy UP FRONT and not getting greedy. I am usually off the table in five rolls.
So You remove a don’t on the 4/10 when you are a 2:1 favorite to win that bet And you’ve successfully got past the come out roll when you were a 2:1 underdog? Fascinating.
@@ColorUp getting paid on the don't come with odds are much more preferable on a six or eight or both than a four or ten. We are GAMBLING. I want to be rewarded for taking a risk. You can lay the odds on both the 4 and 10 and still getting just 1 for 1. How many times have you layed odds on both and got burned over and over. I woud much rather load up on a pass line 4 or 10
Well odds pay at true fair odds of hitting the 7 vs whatever number, but you are more likely to win when 4/10 vs 6/8, But however you like to play is fine.
Just be sure to know your table rules. Some tables will not let you make place bets to hedge the Don't Pass, unless there is more than the minimum table bet as the spread.
Interesting? I have never heard of that. At what casino have you ran into that issue?
I personally have never seen this either. But I am sure there is that one casino that will have a weird rule.
Color Up...most of the casinos in Wendover, NV. I have tried this in the past and was informed of the table rule. I have tried on multiple attempts, thinking perhaps it was a dealer issue, but they have been fairly consistent.
Wendover, hmmm ok, thanks. That’s a pretty dirty rule for them to have. They had their shot to win on come out roll.
This isn't exactly what you're talking about, but years ago, the Turning Stone lost me as a customer after sending me Match Play coupons in the mail and then not allowing me to bet both sides (Pass and Don't Pass) at the same time with them. I tore them up, tossed my ratings card in the trash and walked out and have never returned. That was about 10 years ago.
If you regularly hedge your don't the pit boss will let you know youre wasting their time.
It’s not advised or suggested, just better option than removing a dont bet that has moved to a point.
Can you do a video explaining other bets like ATS? I would appreciate understanding that and other smaller side bets better
I will yes, not sure when though
THE SHOOTER MUST HIT THE ALL SMALL BETS 2,3,4,5,6 BEFORE THE 7 AT 34-1 AND 8,9,10,11,12 AT THE SAME ODDS BEFORE THE 7. IF THE SHOOTER MAKES ALL THE NUMBERS IT'S 174-1. THE ODDS WILL DIFFER IN SOME CASINOS. YOU CAN BET FROM $1.00 UP ON EACH. IF YOU ARE A GOOD SHOOTER IT'S A GREAT BET.
Aren't you still statistically better off in the long run just not making the place bet though because it has better house odds than just staying with the don't pass? Might be more "swingy" but still better over time, right?
Correct. Just sticking with don’t bet is best option. This video is for people that really want to remove the dont. Don’t do it folks! Just place it instead.
Laugh when I see people call no action on the dark side! No reason to after you made it past the "sheriff" (7) or his "deputy" (11)
@555 do you just flat bet the dont or lay odds depending on the point?
@555 how much will u win on this bet?
@555 I am with you at the end of the day the casino will win more than you at the end of the night because the 7 is throwed by 2 or 3 point number is made. Usually it thrown on the first point...
@555 keep it simple. I have an advanced play thereafter, but yeah! for the basic KISS I profit more with Darth than Luke...
@555 - lol - you edited it and STILL managed to fuck it up. Wrong on all three counts. A new record.
Hedging the don’ts. Awesome
Check out John Patrick's books, and videos if you can find them. He advocated a method very similar to this as one way of playing.
I have a couple of his books, good info
I guess this was a strategy of sorts but I assumed Color Up was just demonstrating a way to deal with the fear of facing a 6 or 8 against your Don't Pass bet. I run into this situation playing several different strategies.
You are correct, not a strategy. If it was it is a poor one risking too much to win back too little.
Last time i attempted to do a place bet on my dark points; the dealer had to get an OK by the pitboss (no boxman was sitting) to allow my place bet on my dark points.
Haha, every dealer is new to the game at some point, gotta cut them slack sometimes :)
I mistakenly thought this was about making a mistake. It is rather about a player making a move that is not advantageous for him/her. If someone wants to play poorly to their own disadvantage that is fine with me. That way the casino makes more money and is able to afford better comps to craps players. Stupid is as stupid does.
I feel like this is like betting on reds and blacks in roulette.
It seems to me a place bet of $25 on the established point is the best hedge for a $25 dont pass bet - I either break even or make a few bucks depending on if I get past the come out role - right?
Yep, but you’ve already went thru risky part of come out roll. Once dont point is established you are now the favorite. I’d rather win $25, then a couple dollars when hedged.
So, by making a place bet on the point, you've effectively removed the only reason to play the don't pass line, which is to gain the advantage if you survive the part of the game when the casino has the advantage. Brilliant.
Can you please make more videos about these way of playing؟
For a $10 bet on a 6/8, you can lay $18 and place it for $24 to "cancel" the bet on a $10 minimum table (+$0 on win or +$1 on seven) ....this is instead of doing the even money bet or if you are at a casino without that option. The other way is to just bet the extra $2 from the beginning, making it a $12 "don't" bet. If you are betting $5, then you need to go put it in a slot machine and stay away from the crap table, just saying.
Another strategy is to bet half of your stake amount on next-action bets in order to be covered....for example, if you bet $20 on the DP, don't bet $20 on the DC when the point is established because a 7 out will give you nothing, instead bet $10 on DC. When it moves, now you have $30 in stake so you can bet $15 on the next DC, etc. If you cancel a bet for the 6/8, then you don't count those bets for stake. It won't save you from a yo, but it's good for a table you don't see a lot of repeating going on, you just load up the bases and wait for a 7-out.
Just a question. Why not bet 25 on the dont pass, if a 4 is rolled, place the 4 for 25? You end up doubling your win with no risk.... well after the come out roll.
That's not doubling your win you will lose when a 4 rolls on the don't. You break even.
Hey Color Up. Weird question, If you bet pass line and don't pass bar at the same time, can you remove the don't pass bar?
Great question and the answer is yes. while pass and come bets are contract and cannot be removed, don’t bets can be removed at anytime. The majority of casinos will allow “doey don’t” bet on pass and don’t at same time, not all will.
this is good strategy because when your waiting for the dice as a shooter
Great video! What about placing the $10 on the the dont pass bar for initial roll and then after point is established, place bets on all numbers on the line, (4,5,6,8,9,10). Can I add to the amount on the dont come bet to cover what I put on the line? Sorry I dont have the correct lingo... but just curious, and I'm still very new to the game.
yes,search youtube for 'hedge the point and invest the difference".
You can't add to the Don't Come but you can lay odds up to the table limit (which may be enough to hedge the place bets).
Don't bet against yourself. By that, I mean - if you have a bet out there, don't go 'playing it safe' by hedging against it. You made the bet. You must have felt good about it when you made it - stick around and see if it wins. You'll only piss yourself off if you had, say $25 on a Don't 8 and then place it for 24 and the seven-out comes. Yeah, you made a buck-BUT YOU THREW AWAY $24!
Color up try this....
1) Buy in for $300
2) Bet $50 No Pass
3) Once point is establish place a $10 bet on every point except for established point.
3) Place $12 on points 6 or 8
4) Example if point is 6 you will place $10 on 4,5,9,&10 & $12 on 8
5) Take hits on your points then take all points down leave don't pass up. Never press up points
6) Very important to dodge hot 7 shooters on come out if you lose twice by a shooter you wait for next shooter example...shooter rolls 7 on. Come out you bet $25 don't come again..Shooter hits his point ..then you will stay off this hot shooter..
you can submit strategies with my "dice advice" form on my website colorup.club
You do not have to let the don’t come bet travel if you do not want it to. Example: points 6 and 8.
You do not, but that is the same problem, you are asking to go thru the very risky don't come again, its better to let it travel and just place hedge if you don't like the number
Aren't the odds better if you buy the number you are covering on the DC point than the place bets ?
not on the 6/8, sometimes on the 5/9 depending on the table rules - check out my vid on buy bets
When I watched this at 1.25 speed, I think he sounds just like Tony Romo. The #1 thing I learned from this video is there is a lot I need to learn about craps.
I also have a lot to learn. lot of complexity hidden in a simple game you just bet on numbers you think will roll
after surviving the first roll in don't pass...say $10....then especially if the point becomes 4 or 10 why couldn't you lay max odds on the don't pass for a pretty safe bet? also if playing don't pass on the come out roll, cover any 7 with $1 to give you some protection
Certainly laying odds against number is s great bet as the player is now advantage to win. This video is for players who are afraid to leave their advantages bet working.
Question- is it not normal to play don’t pass and then place bets on numbers instead of don’t come?
Is there advantage to playing the come bet instead of just placing bets on the numbers you want?
That’s what I do bet the don’t for $40 and $18 on 6&8 so if u 7 out u gain $4 if u hit one number and 7 out u gain $25. Only risk is come out roll.
And that come out roll is highly risky.😮
Do most casinos you know of allow you to DP and place bet on the point number?
Yes...but it’s not suggested. Just stick with DP bet. If you are really afraid it will lose, only then place bet the same number.
Here's another bad bet I see at the craps table. People with a Pass line bet who make a Place bet on their point. You get better odds by betting behind the Pass Line than you do when you make a Place bet. It is irrational for a Pass Line bettor to make a Place bet on the point.
Seems like you would always place the 5 and 9 if they are your don'ts.
You don't lose and you have potential to win a few bucks.
You can do that with all the numbers, but you get paid more if you don’t hedge with the place bets
I actually like this. Place the point and don't and I like to make money on the place numbers, when the 7 does roll, I'm pretty much even. Once I build profit I go ham on those 4s and 10s!
That's exactly what you should NOT do! Laying 2 to 1 and lose a few of those 4's and 10's and you will be digging out of a hole. If you are going to be aggressive do it(especially) on the 5's and 9's then the 6's and 8's NOT the 4's and 10's. Those repeats on the 4's and 10's will destroy you in short order.
Don't listen to this schmuck 'dontswin'. He's talking against a bet with no house advantage. Lay crazy odds against all your 'Don't' bets, as your bankroll allows, and hope you get the standard 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, SEVEN-OUT, line away shooter we all know and love.
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 Have you actually tried wagering this way? It won't take too many repeats of 4's or 10's, 6's or 8's to destroy your winnings. I doubt you know what you're talking about.
@@dontswin - Of course you do. I've been following your bullshit advice to players for quite some time now. It's time for you to give it up and just go and lose your money how you see fit. You are a loser and will always be a loser.
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 Hope is not a good strategy. You can hope til the cows come home but they can be lost forever in the wilderness.
Can you place odds on the don’t pass bar bet?
Yes, it’s called laying odds. It works exactly opposite of the way the pass line works
good strats i feel like darth vader
Another great video keep up the good work 👍🏼
Mke in the house!
I've tried this and long run bad idea. U started out correctly that the first come out roll is the toughest part of the donts. So why have a push to break even when u have an advantage? U don't to have advantage and when u get it u hedge bet?
This is not a strategy. I’m telling people do not pull down their dont bets when they have advantage.
would it be ok to place odds on the 4 or 10, (dont pass bar) if thats the point established? 3x? im trying to learn this game. I want to play with minimum loss if possible
Sure, but laying odds on a don’t point of 4/10 pays 1:2 so you wouldn’t want to do 3x. Do 2x 4x or 6x
I have an electronic craps game I play. Would doing this strategy with higher amounts help get points with minimal risk?
This is not a strategy. I’m really suggesting you not do this. many elec craps don’t give points and the few that due are at a very reduced rate compared to something like a slot
@@ColorUp oh okay. The one out here is digital but we actually throw dice. There's a dealer that in puts the card numbers from the dice (California).
Ah, roll to win machine. Releasing video about that today, minus the cards
So can you play a don't pass come out, then play place bets as well? So example I bet $10 don't pass, the point is 8 so I cover the $8 with $10-12 but then I want to also place 5 on each the 5 & 9 is that allowed?
Yes
@@ColorUp ok awesome. Thank you so much.