I'm on a mix of wheat, cotton and lots of tomatoes as tomatoes are the most profitable (wheat for the yield increase, cotton for crafting). Switched out some cotton for potatoes. Not for the bonus of water retain as I regularly am watering daily but for ingredients . A stack of 30 of tomato seeds are worth 1800 (someone did the math and they are the most profitable with roughly 20% more income per hour to any other crop). :)
Definitely need a cooking guide! I just sold a bunch of veggies for 2000+ but hearty veg soup is basically worthless - so that doesn't seem like a good usage of veggies anymore!
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Wheat is the worst crop in the game. If your goal is to have the entire farm have both water retain and yield increase, than you'll want to use this pattern: T = Tomatoes / P = Potatoes / X = Rice (the second buff crop) [T - X - T] > [T - P - T] [P - T - P] > [X - T - X] [T - X - T] > [T - P - T] The pattern rotates 90 degrees with each neighboring plot (potatoes and rice swap positions) like in the example, so everything will have the water retain buff, and everything but 6 potatoes will have the yield increase buff. You should also use cotton instead of rice until you have enough star seeds. This is the most effecient pattern in existence for farming the most profitable seeds (tomatoes and potatoes).
To be honest we really dnot need rice or wheat. We can to use harvest boost fertilizer that is super easy to get. T = Tomatoes / P = Potatoes / X = Cotton with harvest boost fertilizer [T - X - T] [P - T - P] [T - X - T] This is most profitable because you will get 60-70% starred then convert them into seeds and sell them. You dnot need starred seeds if you have quality boost You can to put harvest boost fertilizer x5 or more in same till then it will active during 5 days ingame
Are you maximizing for Quality, Yield or Farming Skill Gain? Because all tomatoes, everywhere gets you the most skill gain. Tomato plants take 2 days to grow, and can then be harvested for XP every 2 days.
@@RBAWintrow It's maximized for profit. You'll never need to maximize for skill gain, because you'll level passively regardless of what crop you grow. This pattern is the most tomato plants you can possibly grow with 2 buffs (potatoes providing water retain, and any other plant for a second buff, preferably cotton for quality increase). The tomatoes are turned back into seeds because they're worth more, same with potatoes and cotton, which have the 2nd best seed values behind tomatoes.
@@eusurto8272 potatoes are used to provide water retain to tomatoes specifically (while giving to any other crop adjacent to it). That way, tomatoes rarely have to be watered, or not at all until you harvest it.
it's refreshing to hear Palia pronounced like u do..and i (hello from Finland btw) everyone else basically uses the American way (for us iz Pa-li-a, american is Pay-lia xD)
It sounds weird to say PaYlia lol, sounds like the pay to win version of Palia. I'm quite certain this is how it is meant to be said, sounds much better hehe. Cheers!
From what I have heard, the developers pronounce it PAY-lia. My first instinct was to say Pa-li-a also but I went with how the developers have been saying it.
@@jaklg7905 yeah, which surprised me a lil considering the unique npc names which u (i think) pronounce pa-li-a kinda way..if u get what i mean ^^' (najima, hodari etc.)
I curently have regular worm farm and before i went to sleep before work i put cooked food in it so i dont know outcome of it yet. Was it worth doing or was it a waste of time?
just got my second plot can I do another gardening on my second plot...I'm looking to buy but can't locate gardening plots,, I guess you can only have 9 garden plots whether you have one or 2 plots ..is this true...i was hoping to double my gardening income
I just realized you can only have one gardening plot consisting of 9 plots, whether you have one or two housing plots.... I was hoping to double my profits but to no avail
Not if the seeds are already Star Quality - only if you want the Harvest Boost Fertilizer (which you can throw like 10x on the soil so it will last for many days)
its a good layout but theres a better one. for one theres no need to have the tomatoes so close there should be 2 spaces between each tomato plant leaves more room for other plants and since its tomato, plant, plant, tomato the 2 in between are both gaining the water retain.
If you want to go for money, tomato seeds are the most profitable by roughly 20% more income per hour to any other crop (someone did the math including grow time). So it's worth it to plant more of them if you go for gold. Layed out mine so I get bonuses on tomatoes, not because they give a bonus to retain water. :)
@@Bambeakz Yep, I'm producing seeds out of my tomatoes and sell them, takes some time but that's why I have a few seed collectors (currently 6) to speed it up (with those 6 I'm earning around 1k per hour with tomatoes - after a full irl night it's 10-11k for practically doing nothing, not counting the other crops I have - they are planted in a checkerboard pattern). And yes, high quality tomatoes will give you high quality seeds that are worth more. So it's wise to collect enough high quality seeds to grow before you sell them. I'm not lvl 10 gardening tho (not much left until lvl 9), so I'm not concernced to get my hands on blueberries yet that need adjusting in planting. 🤫 And for cotton thats true! While normal quality cotton will sell for 45, and fabric for 48, high quality cotton is worth 67 (and will not produce any form of high quality fabric, so it'll drop in worth) I only use normal quality cotton for crafting, and use the high quality cotton for seeds (they are also worth more that way)
with top onion,carrot,potato, middle tomata.wheat,tomato, down potato, carrot,onion you dont need to do anything only give water Once... i have 9 plots.. BIG money.. and only water once
I dont think seeds are the best value anymore. Now it takes 3 tomatoes to make 2 seeds. The best value for profit is putting tomatoes into preserves jars. Star pickled tomatos sell for 51g so 3 tomatoes sell for 154g. 3 tomatoes in seed maker makes 2 seeds which is 120gold. Preserves jar is now best profit i believe.
Bro I love your guides but you kinda fucked up on the fertilizers part as you can use any insect for fertilizers or get worm farm and use any food in it to get more quality fertilizers and I was really expecting blueberry and apples included as I was almost level 10 farming
I know, Ive been using this for a couple days as well, included it in todays video :D i like the easy tomato farm much more over tryharding with special layouts which are annoying to rebuild every day
I didnt say this was the absolute god tier layout, but its a great way to explain how the crop bonuses work and a good starting point to get multiple crops for crafting and cooking early. I now exclusively use potato, tomato and Rice
Yo random Switch Min-Maxer player reading my comment: That farming guide linked is fucking legit. If you come from the time when gamefaqs guides reigned supreme, you'll be pleased. It's easy to read AND has pictures. For anyone complaining about "Not the most efficient": bruh you're a loser who can't click a link. Homeboy gave the masses a simple set up.
The animation lag in this game is killing me, I hope the servers aren’t like this when the game releases, it’s pretty much too annoying after a while to play
That layout is very wasteful, you get the same result with 2 less tomato plants which allows you to have 2 more rice in their place. Overall not a very good design at all
This is a good overall starter layout if you want multiple items for Cooking (soup, noodles, etc) For targetfarming specifically Tomatoes, there are definitely better layouts ^^
I'm on a mix of wheat, cotton and lots of tomatoes as tomatoes are the most profitable (wheat for the yield increase, cotton for crafting). Switched out some cotton for potatoes. Not for the bonus of water retain as I regularly am watering daily but for ingredients .
A stack of 30 of tomato seeds are worth 1800 (someone did the math and they are the most profitable with roughly 20% more income per hour to any other crop). :)
Thanks for the guide. For someone who is clueless on how to get started, this was very educational and clear.
My pleasure!
You do not need vampire crabs for fertilizer, all critters work, so common butterflies suffice. Using rare critters like vampire crabs is wasteful.
you beat me to it.
I would like a cooking guide that covers both most efficient for food value and most efficient for money.
Indeed!
On it!
Definitely need a cooking guide! I just sold a bunch of veggies for 2000+ but hearty veg soup is basically worthless - so that doesn't seem like a good usage of veggies anymore!
OMG lol the hoing trick is sooooo clutch! Thank you!
My pleasure ^^
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What if I don't have that plot formation? How do I remove the seeds?
Where do you get eggs for the Ramen? Great videos, thanks for all the Palia content!
Currently you have to buy them from the general store.
Worm/glow worm farms can use any food!
you get double glow worms if you feed them steak dinners too
is it possible to remove an apple tree or does it go away after a few harvests like a tomato plant?
it well go away on its own :)
Wheat is the worst crop in the game. If your goal is to have the entire farm have both water retain and yield increase, than you'll want to use this pattern:
T = Tomatoes / P = Potatoes / X = Rice (the second buff crop)
[T - X - T] > [T - P - T]
[P - T - P] > [X - T - X]
[T - X - T] > [T - P - T]
The pattern rotates 90 degrees with each neighboring plot (potatoes and rice swap positions) like in the example, so everything will have the water retain buff, and everything but 6 potatoes will have the yield increase buff. You should also use cotton instead of rice until you have enough star seeds. This is the most effecient pattern in existence for farming the most profitable seeds (tomatoes and potatoes).
To be honest we really dnot need rice or wheat. We can to use harvest boost fertilizer that is super easy to get.
T = Tomatoes / P = Potatoes / X = Cotton with harvest boost fertilizer
[T - X - T]
[P - T - P]
[T - X - T]
This is most profitable because you will get 60-70% starred then convert them into seeds and sell them. You dnot need starred seeds if you have quality boost
You can to put harvest boost fertilizer x5 or more in same till then it will active during 5 days ingame
Are you maximizing for Quality, Yield or Farming Skill Gain?
Because all tomatoes, everywhere gets you the most skill gain. Tomato plants take 2 days to grow, and can then be harvested for XP every 2 days.
@@RBAWintrow It's maximized for profit. You'll never need to maximize for skill gain, because you'll level passively regardless of what crop you grow. This pattern is the most tomato plants you can possibly grow with 2 buffs (potatoes providing water retain, and any other plant for a second buff, preferably cotton for quality increase).
The tomatoes are turned back into seeds because they're worth more, same with potatoes and cotton, which have the 2nd best seed values behind tomatoes.
potato and tomato do not have the same function? if tomatoes are more profitable, why potatoes? is it cumulative?
@@eusurto8272 potatoes are used to provide water retain to tomatoes specifically (while giving to any other crop adjacent to it).
That way, tomatoes rarely have to be watered, or not at all until you harvest it.
Please Someone could tell me how to get this window open with seeds where you are putting seeds unto ground. I cannot see any button to plant seed .
it's refreshing to hear Palia pronounced like u do..and i (hello from Finland btw) everyone else basically uses the American way (for us iz Pa-li-a, american is Pay-lia xD)
It sounds weird to say PaYlia lol, sounds like the pay to win version of Palia. I'm quite certain this is how it is meant to be said, sounds much better hehe. Cheers!
From what I have heard, the developers pronounce it PAY-lia. My first instinct was to say Pa-li-a also but I went with how the developers have been saying it.
@@jaklg7905 yeah, which surprised me a lil considering the unique npc names which u (i think) pronounce pa-li-a kinda way..if u get what i mean ^^' (najima, hodari etc.)
I curently have regular worm farm and before i went to sleep before work i put cooked food in it so i dont know outcome of it yet. Was it worth doing or was it a waste of time?
I smell a little Belg in here... Thanks for the tips!!
How do I place the plants? Please help
Can you layer your garden boost
I see this is 9 months old, is this still the most effective way or any updated video if not?
just got my second plot can I do another gardening on my second plot...I'm looking to buy but can't locate gardening plots,, I guess you can only have 9 garden plots whether you have one or 2 plots ..is this true...i was hoping to double my gardening income
You can buy more than 2 (9 square each) plots. They cost 250 coins for each 9 square one.
I just realized you can only have one gardening plot consisting of 9 plots, whether you have one or two housing plots.... I was hoping to double my profits but to no avail
So do you harvest all of it and sell it or just some of it?
I cook with almost everything - make Star Quality soup to boost the price of the ingredients and level cooking ^^
so you use star quality food for soup, also put it in the seed maker and the normal veggies you sell?@@04AMofficial
If you're planting high quality -star rated tomatoes only, do you need to fertilize them every day?
Not if the seeds are already Star Quality - only if you want the Harvest Boost Fertilizer (which you can throw like 10x on the soil so it will last for many days)
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its a good layout but theres a better one. for one theres no need to have the tomatoes so close there should be 2 spaces between each tomato plant leaves more room for other plants and since its tomato, plant, plant, tomato the 2 in between are both gaining the water retain.
If you want to go for money, tomato seeds are the most profitable by roughly 20% more income per hour to any other crop (someone did the math including grow time). So it's worth it to plant more of them if you go for gold. Layed out mine so I get bonuses on tomatoes, not because they give a bonus to retain water. :)
@@Bambeakz Yep, I'm producing seeds out of my tomatoes and sell them, takes some time but that's why I have a few seed collectors (currently 6) to speed it up (with those 6 I'm earning around 1k per hour with tomatoes - after a full irl night it's 10-11k for practically doing nothing, not counting the other crops I have - they are planted in a checkerboard pattern). And yes, high quality tomatoes will give you high quality seeds that are worth more. So it's wise to collect enough high quality seeds to grow before you sell them.
I'm not lvl 10 gardening tho (not much left until lvl 9), so I'm not concernced to get my hands on blueberries yet that need adjusting in planting. 🤫
And for cotton thats true! While normal quality cotton will sell for 45, and fabric for 48, high quality cotton is worth 67 (and will not produce any form of high quality fabric, so it'll drop in worth)
I only use normal quality cotton for crafting, and use the high quality cotton for seeds (they are also worth more that way)
@@izal4625 Which layout pattern are you using? What fertilizer are you using?
how to buy soil more than 9
with top onion,carrot,potato, middle tomata.wheat,tomato, down potato, carrot,onion you dont need to do anything only give water Once... i have 9 plots.. BIG money.. and only water once
I do potatoes, wheat and cotton = easy money
but low skill gain. All tomatoes, all the time gets you farming skill gain the fastest.
i literally caant buy crops theres no listing in his shop
took me longer than needed to realize he was saying "cotton seeds" , I was like wtf is "cawron"? LUL, love the tips
Would not prioritize getting better hoes, as you really don't have to use it that much, get your other farming stuff first.
It was the last item I upgraded to Exquisite, indeed not very important
You can put 100 fertilizer per soil
that Vampire crab is RARE dont use it for FARMING , Vamp Crab will be used in the quest so save it later instead using as fertilizer
I dont think seeds are the best value anymore. Now it takes 3 tomatoes to make 2 seeds. The best value for profit is putting tomatoes into preserves jars. Star pickled tomatos sell for 51g so 3 tomatoes sell for 154g. 3 tomatoes in seed maker makes 2 seeds which is 120gold. Preserves jar is now best profit i believe.
Bro I love your guides but you kinda fucked up on the fertilizers part as you can use any insect for fertilizers or get worm farm and use any food in it to get more quality fertilizers and I was really expecting blueberry and apples included as I was almost level 10 farming
Yea man I checked and indeed the other insects work too 😅 I messed up, will make an 'end game cooking guide' and mention that as correction.
@@04AMofficial that would be great thank you
Only good layout, is full of tomatoes with 14 seeds creator, done. This gets you around 13000$ every 8 hours without doing anything only selling seeds
I know, Ive been using this for a couple days as well, included it in todays video :D i like the easy tomato farm much more over tryharding with special layouts which are annoying to rebuild every day
There are much better seed layouts for bigger plots
I didnt say this was the absolute god tier layout, but its a great way to explain how the crop bonuses work and a good starting point to get multiple crops for crafting and cooking early. I now exclusively use potato, tomato and Rice
Yo random Switch Min-Maxer player reading my comment: That farming guide linked is fucking legit. If you come from the time when gamefaqs guides reigned supreme, you'll be pleased.
It's easy to read AND has pictures.
For anyone complaining about "Not the most efficient": bruh you're a loser who can't click a link. Homeboy gave the masses a simple set up.
3k to buy soil? How are you people making that kind of money?
I had 30K left at the end of the stream, it becomes easy now for me xD
Hunt the sernuks a lot, you can get a bunch of hide in a short amount of time depending on how good a shot you are
The animation lag in this game is killing me, I hope the servers aren’t like this when the game releases, it’s pretty much too annoying after a while to play
Thats intentional and has nothing to do with server lag, just bad coding I guess. More people complain about this so might be changed soon!
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That layout is very wasteful, you get the same result with 2 less tomato plants which allows you to have 2 more rice in their place.
Overall not a very good design at all
This is a good overall starter layout if you want multiple items for Cooking (soup, noodles, etc)
For targetfarming specifically Tomatoes, there are definitely better layouts ^^
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