Matthew Kelly confronts Frank Skinner

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  • Guest Matthew Kelly confronts host Frank Skinner over jokes he made about him. Apologies for the very low sound volume, tape it was on seems to have deteriorated :(
    (VOLUME WILL NEED TO BE SET TO MAX TO HEAR IT!!!)
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  • @nervo6321
    @nervo6321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Well done for Matthew confronting him live.

  • @abdul-hadidadkhah1459
    @abdul-hadidadkhah1459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fair play to both of them for saying their piece and being gentlemen about it.

  • @Cheeseford
    @Cheeseford 13 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is a wonderful chat show moment. Behind the daft exterior of his Game for a Laugh days, Kelly's an intelligent man. So's Skinner. Kelly makes his very reasonable points very calmly and very well. Skinner stands his ground and defends his right to make light of anything. Neither feels the need to win or lose. That the discussion is happening is enough. And Kelly is clever enough not to lapse into gallery-playing righteous indignation. A meeting of equals. It's not either/or.

  • @bradwakey90
    @bradwakey90 11 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Matthew Kelly is laughing on the outside but not on the inside.

    • @stuarthossack5351
      @stuarthossack5351 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Creepy isn't it? Oops.

    • @rigsby1454
      @rigsby1454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stuarthossack5351 He's a good man who has caught a coward out

    • @Sugarcupx
      @Sugarcupx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@stuarthossack5351he lost everything, over a bs rumour. He was angry, hurt. And when he got cleared all the shows that had been mocking him and fueling the allegations invited him back on with smiles on their faces. Can't blame him

    • @stuarthossack5351
      @stuarthossack5351 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Sugarcupx I know I'm only kidding. It's that classic guy who always smiles, keeps smiling when he's annoyed or angry. Which is a little creepy tbf.

  • @noxyproductions2107
    @noxyproductions2107 9 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Whilst uncomfortable to watch, and I remember watching it back in the day, this was a powerful and important moment in television. I respect that both Kelly and Skinner have a calm, reasoned and intelligent discussion about it. Nothing gets nasty, nothing gets personal, it's just two men with two polemics defending their own positions. Afterwards, I actually respected both a little more; I think they both came out of it well

    • @noxyproductions2107
      @noxyproductions2107 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He didn't label him as anything. He made a joke out of Kelly's predicament purely for the sake of humour; it wasn't personal. Now, that's not a philosphy I subscribe to, but it is Skinner's philosophy and he is entitled to his as much as I am to mine, and you are to yours

    • @FoobsTon
      @FoobsTon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Interesting watching this in the Post Saville, # me too outrage junkie internet environment. It's a reasoned discussion between two adults on an emotive personal subject. Both come out of it with credit.

    • @andrewjohnston2850
      @andrewjohnston2850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoobsTon well said

    • @billybigtime2808
      @billybigtime2808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Objectively, it was a funny joke. He could have said Rolf Harris or Gary Glitter but If you're benefitting from being in the public eye and an issue comes up, you're a target for a joke. It's only a joke.
      The more the 'victim' goes on about it, the more people will start to wonder. That's part of the price of fame, for better or worse.

  • @97channel
    @97channel 12 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Without intending to take sides, in all fairness to Frank Skinner he had full editorial control over that show and chose to show the conversation without any significant editing favouring himself.
    Kelly actually brought the subject up between takes, and it was Skinner's insistence that he would be happy to let Kelly challenge him about the jokes on the show.
    Also, the first joke that Skinner quotes wasn't even his. It was David Baddiel's Skinner refers to that fact, but ends up taking the flack.

  • @sylvesterlennon8925
    @sylvesterlennon8925 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I actually have a lot of respect for both after re-watching this. It is really something when you are dignified.

  • @jason80892
    @jason80892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I met Matthew Kelly and he is a very nice man.

  • @mikeym4597
    @mikeym4597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The worst thing about this video is, I turned up the volume all the way to try and catch what was being said but then forgot to adjust the volume before watching the next video...

    • @bevbreeze-stancliffe7514
      @bevbreeze-stancliffe7514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me too😂

    • @adamhurd1560
      @adamhurd1560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was saved by the advert which slowly built up to a loud volume but I realised before it got too loud.

    • @hejmonika1001
      @hejmonika1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      You warned me, I forgot and it happened

    • @gaskellr44
      @gaskellr44 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, yes, I've had sleepless nights since that occurrence too.

    • @aswaysuller7500
      @aswaysuller7500 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came straight to the comments so you’ve saved me that pain lol

  • @TheBassHeavy
    @TheBassHeavy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I thought Frank handled that very well. It would of been much easier to apologise and move on.

    • @TheBassHeavy
      @TheBassHeavy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** Very fair opinion.

    • @JimmySteller
      @JimmySteller 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +SoundArtist Well Frank had the option of taking the easy way out, but he decided not to do it. He decided to own up to what he said. And Kelly was certainly aware of what he was doing, and the fact that Skinner didn't just hide behind a cheap lie must have earned his grudging respect.

    • @beatlesrgay
      @beatlesrgay 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jack Williams TRUTH WELL SAID SIR

    • @Zeitgeist971
      @Zeitgeist971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What's all this "Would Of" nonsense lately? It's "Would Have", ffs Would OF makes no sense.

    • @craigw5456
      @craigw5456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nigel Farage lol

  • @hillsjason1
    @hillsjason1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is an amazing example of a situation where the “wrong” could be debated so many ways, with different approaches 😂
    Exposes how we joke, when it’s wrong, how we should be able to take it, and why we shouldn’t have to take it. Brilliant moment 😂😂

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, though I felt Frank's insistence that there was "no malice," and "it was just a joke" felt a bit desperate, like a childhood bully who suddenly gets confronted about his behaviour by his victim after they've grown up.
      Matthew had every right to be angry with him. I'm just glad we seem to be moving away from that dickish period in comedy.

    • @Realpoweronearth
      @Realpoweronearth 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A joke isn't a joke if it hurts someone's feelings it is just a way to humiliate you😢!!!

  • @paulhanson5164
    @paulhanson5164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I remember watching that on TV when it first aired, Frank looked uncomfortable but well done to both of them for making their points and keeping it civil.
    Not heard anything of Matthew in years, I hope he's well as he always came across as a genuinely nice bloke.

  • @Bjarku
    @Bjarku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    BRILLIANT SOUND QUALITY

    • @pabrennan6877
      @pabrennan6877 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pardon?

    • @Bjarku
      @Bjarku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pabrennan6877I said BRILLIANT SOUND QUALITY!!!

    • @pabrennan6877
      @pabrennan6877 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's that again?@@Bjarku

    • @Bjarku
      @Bjarku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pabrennan6877 hang on let me get my megaphone. I said B R I L L I A N T. S O U N D. Q U A L I T Y!

    • @billgordon6489
      @billgordon6489 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that the audience hissing?

  • @JimmySteller
    @JimmySteller 11 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You know, considering how badly this could have gone, Skinner did a good job justifying why he said those jokes that while back. And he's pretty upfront about it, not even taking the easy way out when Kelly offers him one at 2:26 .

  • @RighteousBrother
    @RighteousBrother 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm so glad you posted this, I remember it at the time, funny how different Mathew Kelly looked without the silly mop of curly hair and beard. He was right to confront Skinner in this way though.

  • @MagicFromThe0161
    @MagicFromThe0161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Tonight Matthew I'm going to be ....murdered on the way home" fair play frank hahahaha that was Gold 😂😂😂😂

  • @Relay300
    @Relay300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good on Frank, and what a great upload. Thanks v much.

  • @Chalky29
    @Chalky29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    cant hear shit. Ill try agin and this time not breathe

    • @gavinjones861
      @gavinjones861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats what Kelly said to Skinner afterwards!

    • @user-ce6uq3dn9o
      @user-ce6uq3dn9o 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

  • @MUSIC4TRUTH....
    @MUSIC4TRUTH.... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Frank's lucky he has a sharp wit and is a smart guy, otherwise Kelly would've torn him apart.

  • @lukelewisDOTnet
    @lukelewisDOTnet 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking for this for ages. Thanks :D.

  • @trickleteeth3425
    @trickleteeth3425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Kelly looks like Kane from WWF

  • @MinorSexualAssault
    @MinorSexualAssault 13 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    this is the most epic talk show moment of the past 15 years, please bring back the Frank Skinner show

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Fantana Without Frank Skinner. Please.

  • @kopthelotklopp1523
    @kopthelotklopp1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fair play to Kelly for bringing it up and fair play to fun time for the way he dealt with it.

  • @wanderer1955
    @wanderer1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    You should have switched the volume off completely, I could still almost hear it!!

    • @DaveyMulholland
      @DaveyMulholland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, he should have invested in a new video player and some expensive audio restoration software, just so you didn't have any reason to make any ignorant and smart-arsed remarks.

    • @wanderer1955
      @wanderer1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DaveyMulholland Hey numbnuts. Correcting the volume BEFORE uploading is far easier.😁👍

    • @DaveyMulholland
      @DaveyMulholland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wanderer1955 I restore audio from tapes. Have many formats, interfaces and software. Thanks for all your pro-tips. Who knew that all you have to do, is correct the volume before uploading the video? Fascinating stuff!

    • @wanderer1955
      @wanderer1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DaveyMulholland Get some software called "AUDACITY" it's a free download, there isn't much you can't do with it. Gee who'd a thought you can get software to correct "volume". Well I never!!

    • @DaveyMulholland
      @DaveyMulholland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wanderer1955 woweeee!

  • @edd4875
    @edd4875 10 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I actually respect Frank a lot for this. At least he stood by what he sais and not offered some fake cowardly apology. Took a alot of guts methinks.

    • @comanchio1976
      @comanchio1976 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      H4NDCRAFTED I'm guessing they already knew that, seeing as that's what they wrote it that way in the first sentence.
      It was probably just a typo.

    • @Superfantastictop10
      @Superfantastictop10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kelly's career was ruined. He was never found guilty. Unfair.

    • @TheRobertino2001
      @TheRobertino2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Superfantastictop10 neither was Jimmy Saville. So was he innocent?

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRobertino2001 good point

    • @stevelee9924
      @stevelee9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheRobertino2001 Saville died before a case could be built against him.

  • @diggerpete9334
    @diggerpete9334 9 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The worst thing about this video is you taped over the 70's Classic Armchair Thriller for this.

    • @aerialkate
      @aerialkate 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Peter Byrd - "Armchair Thriller" scared the shit out of me. The episode where the faceless 'Black Nun' appears in a rocking chair in an attic scarred me for life. Then there was the pet pooch nailed to some old dear's front door. Complete with blood stains. Then there was the flash of an evil face whizzing by in a dark train tunnel right next to some woman about to doze off with her head right next to the window, terrifying her. These images stayed with me. 'Armchair Thriller' was often repeated in the afternoon when I was (for some reason) often home from school. I saw 'em all. To this day even the theme music makes me go cold.

    • @classicartfoundation639
      @classicartfoundation639 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Peter Byrd I love that creepy shadow intro lol

    • @RonWylie-gk5lc
      @RonWylie-gk5lc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +aerialkate Here! Iv never heard of this prog!, and I'm an old TV fan, I will now go and look, { Im at the point in this video where I don't know If Frank apologised or not, I hope he didn't repeat it here I hope!!! ohhhh too late,

    • @victwenty2324
      @victwenty2324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that show shit me to death as a child and dont get me started on hammer house of horror and the original evil dead

    • @victwenty2324
      @victwenty2324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 yrs late but fuk me i was the same afternoon showings and home alone i can still remember that shadow over the chair all alone i went out into the street because it fuked with me so much

  • @brabbit3389
    @brabbit3389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Frank “ I can’t have Matthew Kelly coming on and telling me about jokes , that can’t be right “

    • @wanderer1955
      @wanderer1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The volume was so low I'm surprised you could hear anything at all.

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep.....and that was a put-down in itself.

    • @cliffhanley2120
      @cliffhanley2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      B Rabbit Frank's logic was confused there because Matthew Kelly was mainly questioning the morality of the joke, not telling Frank how to be funny etc.

  • @MITOGEN
    @MITOGEN  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MattScandrick Look under Video Responses for video with the volume adjusted or maybe someone can point it out for you.

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And now he was cleared of all
    Charges and a national treasure.

  • @kevob
    @kevob 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love these type of moments, Matthew from his perspective has every right to feel pissed off, while Frank feels he was just a topic to joke about that week, the confrontation is brill', both handled it well in my opinion.

  • @garyroe2929
    @garyroe2929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top notch audio recording of tv

  • @MinorSexualAssault
    @MinorSexualAssault 12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't believe this is the only copy of this on youtube, it's an epic moment of tv history

    • @garylyall811
      @garylyall811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was quite brave to dig frank skinner live for that, skinner wudnt have expected that but goes to show clearly mathew kelly forgave but did not forget

    • @freedomforpeopletruelies6
      @freedomforpeopletruelies6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you search for stuff now a lot of stuff won't show

  • @markrs2000
    @markrs2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The line " I haven't seen it" says a lot about Kelly.

  • @archive303
    @archive303 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Someone needs to upload the original!

    • @archive303
      @archive303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TUO__ Sorry Mathew.

  • @markcollins9142
    @markcollins9142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mad how different the comments are from 12 years ago compared to now

  • @menakles
    @menakles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I get that MK was pissed with Skinner, but I admire the way that Skinner refused to roll over and, in his words, get off the hook with an easy apology.

    • @cliffhanley2120
      @cliffhanley2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Frank was cowardly here.

    • @leeball4585
      @leeball4585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cliffhanley2120 Please explain how facing up to his accuser and answering his questions as honestly as possible is cowardly?

    • @johnbonhamsinger
      @johnbonhamsinger ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cliffhanley2120 How?

  • @personface5457
    @personface5457 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good on ya Matthew. An interesting encounter.

    • @trevorfeelgood
      @trevorfeelgood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently interview had finished and Matthew said something after and Frank said put the cameras back on.

  • @dogstar75
    @dogstar75 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've been trying to remember the show with a shadow in a chair. by chance i clicked on this vid and the first thing i see, the chair with a shadow. brilliant.

  • @GT2582
    @GT2582 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    amazing tv, i was at a party in uni and it was on in the backround, everyone stopped and watched in silence!

  • @aarongilbert1294
    @aarongilbert1294 10 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Jimmy Carr: Dissecting a joke is like dissecting a frog. No-one laughs and the frog dies

    • @stevebailey5591
      @stevebailey5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's nobody learns anything and the frog dies anyway.

    • @chrisyoung5536
      @chrisyoung5536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it was Ronnie Corbett.

    • @kenthomson9562
      @kenthomson9562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he said that then it’s the most intelligent thing he’s ever said.

    • @stevebailey5591
      @stevebailey5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kenthomson9562 The quote has been around since the end of the nineteenth century, attributed to a number of different celebrities and authors of that era.

    • @kenthomson9562
      @kenthomson9562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevebailey5591 Yes that makes more sense.

  • @richierottweiler923
    @richierottweiler923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Matthew Kelly was clearly internally raging, which i feel put Frank Skinner slightly on the back foot, but big up Frank for having him on the show and big up Matthew Kelly for going on the show to confront him about the jokes he made that he did not see the funny side of. It just goes to show how these situations do not need to be over the top and Jeremy Kyle’d in order to make engaging quality viewing

  • @Kimmy234L
    @Kimmy234L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He was never found innocent.....it was dropped because there wasn't enough evidence
    He's definitely GUILTY

    • @andrewjohnston2850
      @andrewjohnston2850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      unless you were abused by him cant see why who can find him guilty, being a creepy ring piece not a crime yet

    • @Kimmy234L
      @Kimmy234L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewjohnston2850 To repeat myself, he was NOT found innocent
      .....and who on Earth would want to defend a "degenerate"....

    • @andrewjohnston2850
      @andrewjohnston2850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kimmy234L where did i defend him? you need to be proven guilty , i know that is a strange concept in these times , has your friend brought criminal proceedings

    • @andrewjohnston2850
      @andrewjohnston2850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kimmy234L does the name Jimmy Saville mean anything to you! i can only imagine the horror of abuse and i don't want to sound unfeeling to your friend or anyone else but people to need to speak out to save those who will become victims

    • @Kimmy234L
      @Kimmy234L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrewjohnston2850 there's thousands ...millions of victims out there that never come forward. They feel ashamed....they try to block it out and live a normal life.
      I respect my friends decision, as it's a long drawn out process, with all to pull to pieces...

  • @philofthesouth6019
    @philofthesouth6019 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I vaguely remember this, it was an awkward watch but done amicably. Can’t help but side with Matthew Kelly though - frank, who’s quick to jump on the piss take wagon because he can’t think up anything else, despite MK being proven innocent. That accusation destroyed his Tv career!

  • @danieloneill9560
    @danieloneill9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember this really well. Frank looks uncharacteristically awkward but also seems honest which makes the interview even more squirmish for the viewer but fair play to both sides. I don't think this would happen these days because it's too real. Compelling TV anyways.

    • @cliffhanley2120
      @cliffhanley2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure if Frank was 100% honest. He's a smart guy so I reckon he must've recognised the difference between a joke about a convicted sex offender like Gary Glitter and a guy who'd just been accused like Matthew Kelly. And his line of defence, "It was a joke, that's my job," doesn't wash but Frank knows there's jokes he wouldn't tell.

    • @johnbull1568
      @johnbull1568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cliffhanley2120 Baddiel and Skinners whole schtick was 2 friends sitting on a sofa saying stuff and making jokes like the rest of us do (only they're supposed to be funnier, obviously). He can't really say that here, although he does try to differentiate between that style of entertainment and Stars in their Eyes, because then he'd get battered by people saying they wouldn't say such things at home.
      It's enough for me that Skinner invited Kelly on his show and appeared to be willing to discuss it tbh.

    • @thecarpetman7687
      @thecarpetman7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both handled it well and as we saw later with all the Jimmy saville stuff we’re some celebrities were falsely accused and had their names run through the mud….Kelly was right to call it out cause wherever mud is thrown it sticks

  • @globsteruk
    @globsteruk 13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It is strange watching this - like many others, I've waited for it to be uploaded for a long time.
    I say strange because I have told so many people about it over the years and recounted what happened. I have to admit that I haven't been portraying it accurately...I've made out that Skinner was put right on the back foot and squirmed throughout. He actually put up a good case for himself and what he'd done. My "party piece" will need to be rejigged, I think.

  • @williamfoy599
    @williamfoy599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw Matthew Kelly in Educating Rita and he was great in it.

  • @RobLawson1982
    @RobLawson1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bloody hell. Why has this just popped up? It’s so old I forgot what the Matthew Kelly story was even about.

  • @DISTRACTEDIZZIE
    @DISTRACTEDIZZIE 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this! Good on him

  • @daikayll1897
    @daikayll1897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Puts any of the One Shows intrviews in the shed !

  • @jonh6912
    @jonh6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Tricky one this is. I’m all for comedians being able to make jokes about everything, but as a man, I can’t think of anything worse to be labelled as than a pedophile. Making jokes on it keeps the rumours alive and I don’t know how I’d react to that if I was on the receiving end.

    • @highwireman2012
      @highwireman2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My thoughts exactly, Jon. I think comedy must always be an open forum, because to be anything else is a concerning thing. But by the same token, Matthew Kelly must have gone through something very few of us have, and in the most awful way, and he is very much entitled to ask for accountability. It keeps us all honest. Freedom of speech yes, but not freedom of consequence; you don't just get to say what you like about anyone without recourse, and certainly not when it comes to something like this. And I think he handled it very well; i.e. with mock indignance because, frankly, if I was subject to that and then someone joked about it in the pub, I can't promise I would have the same restraint.

    • @jevonscholes8159
      @jevonscholes8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highwireman2012 the arrest was probably something harder to deal with than the jokes though

    • @highwireman2012
      @highwireman2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jevonscholes8159 oh yeah I totally get that, of course I do. I just mean the jokes will amplify it, and they also keep the "mud sticks" narrative as well. I guess my point was, as much as comedy should be an open church, Matthew Kelly has every right to respond as well. You can't expect to make jokes under free expression principles and then not be prepared to answer for them. I'm a big Frank Skinner fan, but I can see both sides here.

    • @jevonscholes8159
      @jevonscholes8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highwireman2012 for sure Mathew Kelly was well within his right, its just a difficult when it comes to comedy, especially as you never know what it might be that oversteps the line for different people. If the wrongful arrests have no consequence (altho I do think in this case it did open a debate) its very difficult to expect a higher standard of an average person or especially a comedian whereby their fame and career should imply it's not to be taken seriously. I think there is also a nice parallel to the John Lydon censorship, whereby not be able to make suggestions or jokes could be covering such horrendous acts. In general I personally think its for the best that the discussion should be open even though its certainly not perfect

    • @cliffhanley2120
      @cliffhanley2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jokes about merely accused offenders are not that funny, even when well crafted. Jokes about convicted offenders, for example, Gary Glitter, work, because they're truly dark. Nothing dark about an innocent man, apart from said innocent man being tried my the media and comedians etc.

  • @EdSurname
    @EdSurname 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    'Do you think that's fair' means different things to the two. Matthew Kelly is asking 'do you think that's fair that I was going thru that and then you made fun of me unjustly'. Frank is answering 'yes I think it's fair that I as a comedian should be able to make a topical joke about something in the news, meant as a joke, because it would be impossible to regulate comedy against this approach and nothing personal was intended'. Both right.

    • @yell50
      @yell50 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Ed Surname Lets image an ex work colleague way back in your past pops up out the blue and accuse you of inappropriate sexual behavior because even if you are found totally innocent of any wrong doing, a nasty stain will be will be with you for the rest of your life then all of a sudden you become the but end of jokes in the area where you live, i think you may have a little more sympathy for Matthew Kelly's situation.

    • @AkumaGekido
      @AkumaGekido 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yell50 Nope

  • @davidembacher1682
    @davidembacher1682 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kelly was arrested as part of Operation Arundel, in which Tam Paton (manager of the Bay City Rollers) was also arrested at the same time. Paton is known to have had an appetite for teenaged boys, including trying it on with lead singer Les McKeown, and at the time of the arrest the police found cocaine at Kelly's home. In the end he was not prosecuted, due to lack of evidence, which is entirely different to being acquitted as it leaves the question unanswered, and if you ooh at the general picture (drugs, association with paedophiles, and the allegations themselves) it is not a compelling picture of innocence. Kelly may have elected to do be Skinner's quest on the show as attack is often the best form of defence when someone has something to hide.

    • @panda792
      @panda792 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +DAVID EMBACHER the police like to say lack of evidence sometimes because they dont want to admit they are wrong

    • @-The-Darkside
      @-The-Darkside 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +DAVID EMBACHER All I'll say is, look at his career since this moment. People have stayed well clear.

  • @saudade369
    @saudade369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've heard so many bullies claim they were only joking.

    • @ifanmorgan8070
      @ifanmorgan8070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bullying is when one person overpowers another and forces them to do something against their will. Disparaging jokes is not bullying.

    • @saudade369
      @saudade369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I disagree totally. If you've ever Ben on the receiving end of a continual, passive aggressive joke about you then I think you would think it bullying. We all have seen the school bully making fun of the weaker person, all the time, every day,. To what end other than to diminish them and use them as an oblect for ridicule. That's bullying to me and it doesn't need to make someone do something they don't want to either. Humour is sometimes cruel yes, Nd sometimes it's also bullying. I'm not necessarily claiming Frank Skinner was doing this but it', I think he is unaware of the effects on others and claiming the usual get out clause of its only humour.

    • @ifanmorgan8070
      @ifanmorgan8070 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saudade369 I didn’t say that disparaging jokes are fun, but unless you are being overpowered it’s not bullying. If someone makes passive aggressive jokes about you, fight back. You don’t get to call everything you don’t like in life “bullying” just because you don’t like it.

    • @davidsanderson5918
      @davidsanderson5918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ifanmorgan8070 Your definition of bullying doesn't cover all areas though. There's the psychological side of bullying which merely (but damagingly) gets inside the head of the victim, particularly the younger ones who are vulnerable, over-sensitive and easy prey for the bully. In those legions of cases, it's not to do with being overpowering or forcing someone to do something (which is of course one form of bullying). It's to do with undermining, belittling....mental abuse, in other words.
      And yes, Frank...while not being a bully here)....is nevertheless using that cold, defiant, rational way of exempting himself from blame that a bully would if they were taken up on it. "It's only a joke".....while the consequences are being ignored, not appreciated.

    • @25242824
      @25242824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jokes are bullying?, what about criticism? is that bullying too, lets just be fascists shall we and stop people from saying anything offensive, someones going to walk out in front of a car on purpose because they think they are car proof but you're not allowed to tell them that's a STUPID idea because that would be bullying, you see where it leads ? lol there's actually several comedy sketches based on this subject and a red dwarf episode lol where there's a ship driving directly into a star but no ones allowed to tell the crew it's a bad idea becase criticism of any kind including jokes are illegal and is classed as bullying lol infact we actually had to amend the section 5 public order act a couple of years ago with thanks to comedians like rowan atkinson to remove the words offence from it just so that comedians could do their jobs without fear of being arrested for telling jokes.

  • @robakajackflash
    @robakajackflash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They could have closed the window, all I can hear is all that rain outside!

  • @ka5269
    @ka5269 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whose idea was it to stick that Armchair Thriller title at the beginning? That used to shit me up something rotten when I was a kid!

  • @Trollberg60north
    @Trollberg60north 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm afraid it's clear to see that Matthew Kelly is actually very, very angry. Yes, he plays along and even covers it at times with laughter but if you look at 2.19 you can see how serious he is about it.
    This is a very tense piece of television and I don't think it's about who won and didn't win.

  • @leesawford
    @leesawford 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This didn't go down as I think Mathew planned. I think he thought Frank would get embarrassed and buckle, and he would come out looking the bigger person. How wrong he was. He neglected to realized how 'sharp' Frank is. And I think he just made himself look even worse. Also anyone who missed the original gags got chance to hear them again !!

    • @martinplatt5928
      @martinplatt5928 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "sharp"........well maybe...but that is such a shame.....Skinner is a total pratt....

    • @reoreborn1209
      @reoreborn1209 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't really look at it in that way and quite a few people don't. It seemed as if Mathew held back quite a lot. It was more he wanted to bring it up just as a way to say "People like you need to realise that you're talking about real people here..Real innocent people". Which was true in his case and quite a few others over the years. Frank just seemed to sit there, squirm and come out with a few semi funny commenst to try and defuse the situation.
      A few years later Frank said this was the hardest interview to do because he had no way to defend himself.

    • @andyr0ck
      @andyr0ck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aye, don't try to outcringe Skinner...playing right into his hands.

  • @yell50
    @yell50 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mathew Kelly character has been tarnished even though he has been found innocent, a lot of TV work dried up after the court case. Anonymity for the accused and the accuser should be the way forward if a person is found guilty then there should be no anonymity protection, this seems like common sense to me. I just can not understand why dont the courts conduct themselves in this way.

  • @MITOGEN
    @MITOGEN  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @funkymcmunky See the volume adjusted one in the video responses.

  • @lewiskeeffe8649
    @lewiskeeffe8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get the headphones out for this one

  • @TheLizardmonkey
    @TheLizardmonkey 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @26highstreet Is there a site you could send me to wherwhat you say is backed?

  • @rupertevans6847
    @rupertevans6847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you running a tap through a siv while recording this?

  • @davegoodall7505
    @davegoodall7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Frank doesn't like it when the boots on the other foot, remember when he tried to belittle Bernard manning on his show .

    • @barrychambers7854
      @barrychambers7854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doesn’t like it? He stood his ground.

    • @RJ-666
      @RJ-666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember the Alan hansan one ....that was good. Or Britney spears that one was a fuckin car crash

    • @cliffhanley2120
      @cliffhanley2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barrychambers7854 Well, he wouldn't admit he was wrong. I think he knew he was though.

    • @johnwedgbury6817
      @johnwedgbury6817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cliff, he wasn't wrong. A sense of humour can't be wrong, it can only be different. There shouldn't be any rules for comedy. If there was then life of Brian wouldn't exist, everything offends someone. It's the people who think their being offended actually gives them any rights who are the problem.

    • @davegoodall7505
      @davegoodall7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly ! so why did he invite Bernard on his show to belittle him about his humour. That's why I don't like the man.

  • @martinistakis1825
    @martinistakis1825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone falsely accused of anything knows how he is Matthew is feeling.

  • @dmclynx
    @dmclynx 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    loved armchair thriller

  • @JasonRadley
    @JasonRadley 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about subtitles?

  • @randomdave30
    @randomdave30 14 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is truly grisly but well done Matthew Kelly. Trial by tabloid is a disgrace - just because someone is accused of something or even under investigation doesn't mean they don't matter and deserve to be treated with contempt. Inoocent until proven guilty.

    • @ianjackson2763
      @ianjackson2763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mmmm Barrymore was innocent as well.

    • @tourzrap
      @tourzrap ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And MJ

    • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
      @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ..and of course jimmy saville. .. . .moral ..= everything on TV = bullshit.

    • @BumboyWillynut
      @BumboyWillynut 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every villain in history has been lied on!

    • @51palmsprings
      @51palmsprings 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was a joke at the time but no smoke without fire Pete Townsend got off as a police whistleblower informed the newspapers and that gave him and everybody else time to destroy their computers etc so when he was raided they only had the evidence of a credit card which was used to view child porn ?

  • @therealslimshady4555
    @therealslimshady4555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonder how many kids had a star in their eye?

    • @granto6738
      @granto6738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha very good

  • @gavinreid8937
    @gavinreid8937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Matthew "I,d like to talk to you IN PRIVATE about something you said about me." Frank "save it for the show."

    • @brettpritchard265
      @brettpritchard265 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did that happen?

    • @gavinreid8937
      @gavinreid8937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brettpritchard265 Frank said so.

  • @punkyou2527
    @punkyou2527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to turn the volume down a bit, i could almost hear it...

  • @simonbrooks1672
    @simonbrooks1672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well done Frank standing up to be counted. And i do feel for Matthew, being accused of that filth. Especially the worse thing when your innocent.

    • @ljdmanxfella5793
      @ljdmanxfella5793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What, you mean like how Michael Jackson was found innocent of the same filth too? Yeah, right Simon!🤣

    • @BCJ1985
      @BCJ1985 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ljdmanxfella5793 The difference being that Matthew Kelly has never paid anyone off. That speaks volumes to me.

    • @prappsy3028
      @prappsy3028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ljdmanxfella5793so if anyone is accused, that’s it. They’re bang to rights. How about I accuse you of being a nonce. Does that mean you’re one too? Is that how it works?

  • @maffis7573
    @maffis7573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am listening to this on ear phones sounds like someone is doing morse code

  • @JAMamation
    @JAMamation 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    legendary television lmao

  • @MJW238
    @MJW238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And now David Badiel is writing books and making documentaries, lecturing people on what they’re allowed to say.

    • @windupmerchant1679
      @windupmerchant1679 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      After a decade of racially abusing footballer Jason Lee on TV to writing a book about him being a victim.

  • @berzel0637
    @berzel0637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Frank handles himself here like the true legend he is.

    • @budweiser600
      @budweiser600 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      By legend, you mean 'turd'?

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any chance of any sound

  • @ThePipcg
    @ThePipcg 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Is there anything about which a joke can't be told? Frank Skinner is up front about it. People in the public eye always get jokes told about them.

    • @shanefolan
      @shanefolan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yea but the jokes made about matthew were the worst kind.

    • @dombaker8790
      @dombaker8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I think you’re right but there’s a level of responsibility - own what you say. And if you’re attacking a marginalised group and promoting a trope that gay men are likely to be paedos then FS needs to hear that. Anyway do agree, it’s a good conversation

    • @shanefolan9175
      @shanefolan9175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dombaker8790 Matthew Kelly isn't gay though so where does the gay men fit into that?

  • @TheDaverobinson
    @TheDaverobinson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This wouldn’t be possible today.

  • @macabre_delights
    @macabre_delights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The audio is very quiet any chance of knocking it up? 😄

  • @leesawford
    @leesawford 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Watching it again - the truth of the matter is Mathew Kelly comes across as creepy. He makes me feel uncomfortable and is cringe inducing. He is not very likeable or endearing. I think that's why the truth of the joke is irrelevant ( not to him I'm sure) but it works because , rightly or wrongly, people find him creepy, insincere and uncomfortable

    • @tonypine3434
      @tonypine3434 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He hosted a show where people pretended to be someone else...

  • @cedricpeabody265
    @cedricpeabody265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turn it up!

  • @ColinKelly
    @ColinKelly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's right about Kelly being part of the mood at the time and I'd defend his right to joke about whatever he likes. And the comment below is right, it's good to see a good, adult debate about this. I'd argue Frank's jibe at Sophie Ellis Bextor at the Brits was actually harder to defend.

  • @SarahJay55
    @SarahJay55 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is he?
    Well, I believe he has been hosting 'Room 101' on BBC1, the third season of 'Frank Skinner's Opinionated' recently aired on BBC2, he has a Saturday morning radio show n Absolute, and he recently returned to live stand up. Does Goodle/Wikipedia not work on your computer?
    oh, and what was your point?

  • @yazzman13
    @yazzman13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Was this recorded with a potato?

    • @yazzman13
      @yazzman13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yes

    • @1963eamonn
      @1963eamonn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neon Messiah Well he's honest...

    • @TheRowlandstone73
      @TheRowlandstone73 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Potatoes give off better audio quality than this.

    • @ZER0--
      @ZER0-- 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why? has it left a chip on ya shoulder ?

    • @terryperring104
      @terryperring104 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a case of:- fill in the missing sibilance!

  • @NUstonerFC
    @NUstonerFC 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    oooh so he did, thx for that :)

  • @jameslarios4687
    @jameslarios4687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His Matthew Kelly jokes were some of the best and that’s where he got a lot of his material from, the celebrity world

  • @1001space
    @1001space 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    up most respect

  • @MrVorpalsword
    @MrVorpalsword 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strong performance from Kelly ....

  • @danielthompson6448
    @danielthompson6448 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'll tell you something about Matthew Kelly, take it as truth if you wish, but all i know of Matthew Kelly is what i know from my Nana, years ago, in the 1970's, Matthew Kelly lived around my area, Cheshire, i'm not sure exactly where but i think it was somewhere around Northwich/Winsford, that general area, now this happened before he became well known, and as far as i can tell, it is only a rumour, but anyway, the story goes that he was married, and got up to no good with a teenage boy, a police report was filed at the time, but Matthew Kelly buggered off to London, became quite successful and nothing ever came of it.
    He was then investigated in 2003 on what i believe to be a different child abuse scandal, but there was insufficient evidence, now, i'm not for one second saying take this as fact, this is from my 78 year old Nana and her memory is a bit dodgy at the best of times, but having said that, i wouldn't let him near my kids haha.

    • @danielthompson6448
      @danielthompson6448 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is never smoke without fire, he's dodgy, end off, you wanna leave him in a room with your kids? Of course you don't.
      Jimmy savile was just rumours once you know...

    • @mikewilliams258
      @mikewilliams258 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +Daniel Thompson So because Jimmy Savile was a paedophile it follows that Matthew Kelly is one too. "No smoke without fire" is a slogan for lazy-minded numbskulls.

    • @StephanieLaerkeAndersen
      @StephanieLaerkeAndersen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Daniel Thompson Well I agree with you, Daniel. I know somebody that worked with him for years, and they described him as a monster.

    • @mikewilliams258
      @mikewilliams258 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Stephen Ogley You knew someone who worked for him who called him a monster? Well that's conclusive then. I despair when I read brain-dead comments like yours.

    • @Mandyclody
      @Mandyclody 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He buggered off to London lol

  • @RossPatzelt
    @RossPatzelt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant hear ir. Please can you re upload but louder please thanks

  • @britturk123
    @britturk123 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kelly is doing very well his career is not over the man never stops working.

  • @CustoopMoon
    @CustoopMoon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Frank genuinely looks scared there.

  • @WickerAndroid
    @WickerAndroid 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Class

  • @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580
    @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe you taped over Armchair Thriller!

  • @MITOGEN
    @MITOGEN  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @will320 Cheers, it was classic TV.

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Skinner gets caught and he cannot get out of it

  • @stephenfarrell77
    @stephenfarrell77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Skinner dealt with Kelly very well. Kelly almost seemed menacing at the start. But Skinner knew how to play it. I'm sure hes had others want apologies for things he has said, but hes a comedian and seeing the funny side of life. He is satirical and that's what he does well.

  • @TheRobertino2001
    @TheRobertino2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done Frank for standing your ground. Although Kelly was never charged with child abuse, dating back 30 yrs, he certainly wasn’t cleared. Many of his alleged victims were unwilling to give evidence and others recollections very too hazy. When his holiday home in Colombo, Sri Lanka a notorious paedophile hot spot, which his wife nor two grown up children had ever visited, was raided by police it was full of kiddies soft toys and children’s games, which the local police were only too happy to show waiting press. You can be like Frank Skinner and draw your own conclusions.

    • @TheRobertino2001
      @TheRobertino2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidcollins9258 I know. There were some terrible stories coming out of Colombo at the time. Many families living in abject poverty would let their kids ‘play’ with the wealthy foreigners. Through shame and embarrassment, the people and government brushed it under the carpet. Even now people don’t want to talk about it, so you can see why the paedophiles flocked there. Why Kelly would want a holiday home there is suspicious at best.🤷‍♂️

    • @evilroyslade1099
      @evilroyslade1099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only one person made an allegation so you saying there were many is utter crap.

    • @danielgranahan
      @danielgranahan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@evilroyslade1099 agreed. Just the one allegation of one person and he was released with no further developments so he’s innocent .

    • @prappsy3028
      @prappsy3028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRobertino2001the biggest load of crap I’ve ever read in my life

    • @prappsy3028
      @prappsy3028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully you can be tracked down so Kelly can take legal action against this slanderous nonsense. I’m sure you’ve seen what celebs can do against social media keyboard warriors these days.

  • @TeeJayandBuzz
    @TeeJayandBuzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never seen this before and I feel for anyone who's been wrongly accused of anything. However, I love the way that Frank defends himself and cogently argues his case. And he's absolutely right. God forbid (sorry for blaspheming Frank) Jimmy Carr was prominent back in 2010. Kelly would've had an aneurysm!

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cogently? He actually used the "there was no malice," and "it was just a joke" defences. He sounded like a kid being told off for bullying, and rightly so.

    • @Rutley7
      @Rutley7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ..I agree, and I think Jimmy's different, worse.
      His speciality is always having the high ground and mocking. He's a controlled and controlling comedian... Certainiy, considering the putdowns and shit-takes of his guests he doesn't put up with them so much.. fell out with a couple of people on the panel shows and flurted with Anne Widdecome or someone- specifically because she gets mocked for not being good looking.
      I say this despite my favourite show being 8 out of 10CDC.
      Sean was/is my favourite comedian.. I just think Jimmy really does dish out more than he can take.

  • @lshannon41
    @lshannon41 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gotta give frank skinner credit for having him on the show must have taken some balls