The Weirdest Post-Chemo Symptoms
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2023
- Hey! You're in the description! Well done. Weird thing going on in my life right now is that I'm on the Dropout.tv show Dimension 20 (which I am a big fan of.) You can watch the first episode here on TH-cam, but the rest of them are behind their paywall! It's one of my favorite subscriptions though, so you should consider it!
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Hank being O negative is just so funny, because the universe said "you are going to be the most giving person in the world from your blood to your socks to your coffee to your soap"
From the windows... to the wall!
The Universe knew.
And finally the universe is like, "OK, you can have a break."
@@vlogbrothers "a break" is a weird way to describe cancer, but you've earned the right.
@@vlogbrothers You deserve it, whether you'll let yourself or not!
Hank realizing and explaining that he's still alive despite accidentally implying otherwise is the most Green brothers reaction I've ever seen
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I just imagine Hank tweeting (or whatever it is now) after the video is posted saying "I'm sorry if this is how you found out."
reminds me of how john green had to change the title of his esther day video cause it was originally just "I love you, Hank" and that freaked people out
While editing this video, it has come to my attention that... I'm not dead. I know what it sounded like, but, I'm not. You are stuck with me.
Why does Hank kinda look like Anthony Fantano??
The sheer number of camera angles implies quite the workout from moving the tripod around
"I've spent half my life rolling up this 30ft microphone cord, and the other half I've wasted." -The TB one
CJtheX moves their camera every new sentence. And the videos are usually an hour long
my guess is a few cameras set up static, and he edits em, seems the few backgrounds stay consistent, so hes just moving around a bunch i think
I do love the unhinged effect it adds.
I was just talking about this with one of the other patients at the cancer center I go to. My hair grew back in curly. She went through chemo twice. The first time her hair grew back in darker. The second time her hair grew back in red and curly. Another patient had never had freckles before and developed freckles after chemo. It’s crazy how much it affects every small part of your body.
Seriously though. My grandmother had chemo about a decade ago and her hair is now super curly.
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Not a doctor of any sort, but I think chemo having this effect might be it slightly damaging your cells??
I know that we’ve got 2 copies of every gene, and sometimes they don’t match, and every cell is constantly dying and creating replacements, and mistakes accumulate in this process over time. That why hair goes grey as we age, the hair color making genes make too many mistakes and stop working.
So maybe all the hair growing cells or genes or whatever being killed all at once increases the mistakes in the replacement cells? So if you had a recessive trait in your hair color the new hair shows it better or something.
This is all just a guess though.
@@chloepainter4064 that's pretty much how my doctor explained it.
it's weird how it seems to almost reset your system. Maybe some day the scientists will discover that killing so many cells isn't just killing the cancer, but shoving our bodies into using different unexpressed parts of our DNA in order to survive the onslaught of poison pushing us to the edges of life to survive. I wonder if anyone has ever considered doing a little DNA check post and prior, just to see if being 'cured' is exclusively due to the poison, or if the body shifts to a different gene to keep it from reoccurring.
The re-rolling hair thing is *fascinating*. Like turning them on and off randomizes the initial state/balance the system struck when you were first growing hair.
Also in my experience, anxiety is like gravity. It can only be additive. Health anxiety just makes work anxiety worse and vice versa. Glad you're feeling better and enjoying your new beard!
I suppose now we should be expecting a video about 10 years from now about hair regrowth huh?
Im not familiar enough with biology but i was thinking more along the lines of DNA mutation due to chemo somehow manifesting in hair in a non harmful way, though i could be totally wrong lol.
I expect you to come up with a cure to male pattern baldness in that lab of yours.....
Honestly, anxiety feels much more exponential than additive; like a runaway feedback loop that only stops once you stop *_all_* of it.
this is so real
While I agree with the anxiety being like gravity theory... I'm also concerned that one of the world's few genuine, Mad Scientists has had a brainwave for the project after he's done making a fish out of fruit and making it play DOOM
Hank just beginning to learn that anxiety is a stacking debuff is so funny to me considering John’s relationship with anxiety.
There are two anxious wolves inside of you.... Why are they there? What do you need with wolves?!
That’s what I was thinking!!!!!
What if the newfound intimacy with anxiety and the new hair combine and result in Hank getting poof levels of his own??
@@josiah42 what's that sound? oh god, is that a third wolf?? OH GOD
Heh yeah, stacking debuff is a good way of putting it.
At that moment in the video, I was thinking in terms of interference. As in, Hank was expecting his sources of anxiety to destructively interfere and cancel each other out, only to learn, to his horror, that it interferes constructively instead! D:
This video truly felt like stepping into someone else’s brain for 7 minutes and 4 seconds and it was absolutely fascinating- I think the editing and camera shots really created quite the atmosphere to fit the rambling and contemplating. I enjoyed living in your brain for a bit Hank, even if it’s not always the most fun place for you to be it’s certainly relatable because my brain isn’t always fun either.
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lost my mom five years ago from cancer and it still hurts like hell, but watching you go into remission and have such an interesting perspective on it all has been really nice. yes, there's a lot of grief in these things, but there's also a lot of love, no matter if you lose someone or not, and i think that's really powerful.
My sincere condolences, and I'm glad that these videos have been nice for you.
sending love. it's been five months for me and it is the worst.
@@victoriaz14 im so sorry, wishing you and your loved ones all the time and space that you need. remember her with the love and the pain, and know there's nowhere to go but through. please take care of yourself.
Condolences. My dad died in January 2022 (a week after my 24th birthday) after fighting treatment-resistant prostate cancer for more than 10 years. He was 2 months shy of turning 70.
I didn't realise "asking teen questions as a 43 year old" was something cancer patients and trans people had in common
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I was thinking the same thing!
relatable🏳️⚧️
lol fr
yooooo true
Okay, both John and Hank doing these wandering-around hold-the-mic stream of consciousness what-4-minute-rule videos is giving me SO MUCH LIFE
Long live The Format
John's last video was 3:58 and I was sure Hank would follow his lead at least for the next video but Hank said yeah but what about no
Thanks Hank for putting words out and being vulnerable before us...because you gave legitimacy to those of us who have felt those very same things as we have gone through the struggles of living and dying. Well done.
Same, the format is just fantastic
Long live the format!
I relate a lot to the "I don’t have it bad enough to deserve help, compassion, attention" guilt. For me, it's extremely related to my OCD subtypes. You probably don’t have OCD, but health anxiety and severe guilt can easily become OCD. So please be careful and nip it in the bud if you start to develop OCD symptoms
Especially since John has OCD, Hank could be predisposed to it
Love this style of filming. Perfectly reflects the feeling of having a scattered brain while rambling to myself. Much love, Hank. :)
oh, hell. THAT's why this video feels entirely natural to watch... :D
chemo brain. I know how it feels.
This reminds me of something that Terry Pratchett wrote, “No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone’s life is only the core of their actual existence.”
GNU Terry Pretchett
Wow, that's beautiful.
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In that case I doubt Terry, or Hank, will ever be fully gone. So many ripples!
Well, if that's true, the poor bastards who discovered fire and invented the wheel ain't never gonna die! ;o)
I remember a lady growing up saying that she’d always wanted to have curly hair and after she got cancer it grew back curly, so for her it was like “Wish granted! But at what cost?”
Monkeys Paw slowly curls 1 finger lmao
My hair was completely gray when I had chemo. When it grew back it cane in auburn.
@@techpriestessmicaela8441one of my sisters started off with white-blonde hair and then became a brunette after puberty. Biology is weird.
Turns out beauty is indeed pain
This is strangely wholesome.
Hi Hank, Hank here. I don't comment that often but your thoughts on survivor's guilt struck me. I truly hope that the survivor's guilt fades away for you. Your enthusiasm and consistency over the past few months dealing with this has been a rollercoaster for all of us. You're good people. I really wanna thank you both for your candor and love. THANK YOU
I loved dropping the guilt from not donating all the time. I am also O- and an added guilt bonus from having "baby blood". Since I never had a specific virus that is dangerous for babies and immuno compromised, they would always call me for a donation in emergency situations. I always did my best and am so relieved to no longer feel that guilt.
welcome to the full beard club. let it grow, let it grow.
Holy shit!
HOLY BEARD GANG
"let it grow, let it grow."
Don't shave it off anymore.
Omg you're here too!
I agonised over joining that club. I went back and forth. I don't like my facial hair but also don't like shaving, and thought I might like it more if I let it get beyond stubble. Then I tried and it turns out it doesn't really grow long enough to be called a beard. I get a lot of it, all over my face and neck, but it just sprouts to the perfect worst balance between scratchily short and long enough to clog up my razor, and then stops. F-ck you, my hair.
The CHAOS. The FORMAT. THE HANK GREEN IN REMISSION?!
I love it.
i was gonna say 'i'll have whatever he had' but then i realized that might not be such a good idea after all...
"The things we make aren't really about us." Wow, this video hit me hard. A dear relative of mine lost his battle with mental illness just two weeks ago now, and he was a prolific maker of videos and music that he shared via TikTok, TH-cam, and other places. I keep going back to watch and listen to his creations because it's a part of him that I can take with me into the future. I see others who enjoyed what he created doing the same. It's become very clear to me that what we put out into the world matters, even when we're no longer here.
Thank you, Hank, for continuing to share this process with us. Wishing you continued good health news and for an exciting new chapter of facial hair growth :)
Hi, what was his channel? I would like to check out some of his creations as well, thanks~
I'm 7 years out from chemo ending and this was still really helpful for me to hear. The road ahead might be bumpy, and you may get blindsided by things you didn't expect; for me it was PTSD around major life changes because I was diagnosed in the summer after high school graduation and before college, but I digress.
Please keep narrating your journey through this and keep on posting (even after you're dead) 😊
Love that Hank’s dipping in again on The Format™️
Everyone seems to forget that I INVENTED THE FORMAT!
@@vlogbrothersI FORGOT AND JOHN MADE A VIDEO CALLED “INTRODUCING THE FORMAT” IM SORRY 😭 /lh
@@vlogbrothersdon't worry hank you'll always be the format inventor
@@vlogbrothersyou also kinda invented the Anthropcene Reviewed but it's still very much John's thing 😂
@@vlogbrothersJohn is the Apple of The Format™
Yes! A boss I had made it through cancer three times while we worked together, and her hair grew back different each time. It seemed scientifically impossible to me so thank you for validating that she was just rolling a different number each time. 😂
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Holy crap three times?!
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3 TIMES?! WHAT?!
I dont know if id keep working at a place where the boss man hit the tripple cancer.
Also there is no such thing as not getting hurt enough by cancer. Having known people who died and are dying of it, I am so grateful you are here with us and so sorry for the pain and anxiety you went through.
The complete filterless honesty is nothing less than wonderful! I didn’t knew the thing about hair types and colors able to change after chemo, but it makes sense with the gene-reset. I know you turned all existential in the end of the video, but as another John (Mayer) learned me in a song “the heart of life is good”. And you guys do so much good in so many ways. So yeah, as always thank you guys so much for all the inspiration! 🙏✨ Stay weird and nerdy please! 🫶
Beard tips if you decide to grow it out (which I recommend; if you grow a lot of facial hair, shaving your whole face is a nightmare):
- use beard oil; softens the hairs and makes them look nicer
- two fingers above your adam's apple is a good beard line
- use specific beard wash and beard conditioner
Beard balm is GOOD if your beard is; you know "stiff/unbendable": Start with beard oil tho... eases you into the habit of oil first than wax. Best of luck and good recovery🙂
Yes to all of the above! Except for the beard line. Once it gets long enough, you never have to shave again. ;)
VlogBrothers beard wash and conditioner, coming soon!
And I’ve noticed with mine that if I keep it short enough (I use one of those buzzers with the plastic length-sector clips you see at hair dressers’) it doesn’t itch at all and overall feels more comfortable
Interesting advice! My dad never had a chance to teach me all that...he's fine, I just can't grow ANY facial hair. Dad had a porn stache, his brothers both do, my mom's brothers have beards, me and my 2 brothers have nothing! We save a lot of time and money but it IS weird!! So thanks for teaching me, maybe one day...😅
This video is so unhinged and weird and honest and I love it. The cuts, the lighting, the ranting, the weird and vulnerable thoughts. Love it
We're seeing a new blog/vlog genre start before our very eyes. I know every camera angle kinda says "f-it, let's try this, that's good enough", but it came together into a style that is just kind of raw and honest.
It's true. The cuts are razor sharp in this one. Maybe not 5-blade sharp, but definitely at least 3-blade sharp
It reminds me of the girl on tiktok who goes for hikes and asks mildly unhinged interview questions at the camera. This is my favorite Hank video of all time.
Both my parents passed due to cancer when I was in my mid 20s. Since then, I've been battling PTSD.
Cancer not only affects the patient him of herself, but all of the folks who love you. I'm glad the treatment has been successful in your case.
The new look suits you
My aunt had bowel cancer 20 years ago, always had very curly blonde hair. It grew back grey and straight. She definitely struggled with that because on top of everything that she'd dealt with, she had to change the person she identified as. Being blonde was a huge part of identity.
I had strawberry blond straight hair before, gray curly hair after. the curls grew out, the gray stayed. I looked 10 years older within a year. but at least I was alive.
@@evastapaard2462 absolutely. Unfortunately for Jan, she developed early onset dementia almost immediately after recovery so didn't have any time to really enjoy recovery. She's just recently passed.
Im so sorry for your loss.@@sunsets.starlight
@@evastapaard2462 thank you, it's appreciated
For what its worth Hank. I was diagnosed with classical Hodgkins also in May and it was very convenient that an extremely knowledgeable person had the same variety of cancer at the same time. Your videos have helped my experience. I got 40 something more days until my last chemo when ill be joining you as a cancer survivor.
(My oncologist is pretty confident that I'm going to make a full recovery if i follow through based on my labs. Im saying this with pretty good confidence with my own reasearch as well)
Tldr: Hank you are remembering to be awesome!
I hate that you and Hank (and anyone) got cancer, but if you were to get it anyways, having someone to look to seems pretty cool. Good luck on the rest of chemo!
Great job peeing out all that cancer!!
Best of luck!
Let us know how it goes! Wishing you the best.
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You don't need to feel bad about surviving cancer bud, my mom died of it and I was genuinely excited and happy that you went into remission and wish you the best. I can't wait to see how your possible new beard comes along with all your new vids on science and D&D
Sorry for your loss
Same. Everyone I’ve loved who has had cancer in the past has died from it. (Four people, four different cancers, two repeat cancer diagnoses.)
My husband’s Nana is going through cancer again and just started treatment last week. I’m so happy to see Hank recover, and to hear him talk about it.
Chemo being absolutely disastrous for my Mom, or really effective but eventually not enough for my mentor does not change Hank’s experience, emotions, or right to talk about them. And it doesn’t lessen my appreciation of him sharing his story and my relief that he is in remission.
I agree with this. I lost my grandpa to cancer, and I don't hate anyone for being able to survive it, I in fact hope for it. I want more people to survive, than have more that are lost
@@7RadioactivePotatoes so sorry for your loss, may your grandfather rest in peace
@@AmaraJordanMusic sorry for your losses, sending my best wishes to your husband’s nana
Hank, you'll never know the impact you've had on my life; but thank you. I'm glad you're a survivor.
This video is an entire vibe really and I love it. As someone who has lived a life surrounded by and inadvertently experiencing a variety of disabilities and illnesses, I think it's really valuable to hear these kind of experiences from others who are newly working through these things because like, heck, we all experience a lot of similar things and just hearing other people process it makes you feel a lot less alone.
Honestly, the “teen boy questions” and checking out other dudes’ beards is sooo relatable as a trans guy in his 20s 😂
I was just thinking the same thing! Haha
Second puberty always hits different lol
Half the battle is believing in yourself (and beard).
The other half is recognizing a losing fight so you may retreat and regroup. (So like, at first it'll be a whispy mess and you won't want to let it go but TRUST ME, just shave those baby hairs off and wait for the tensile-strength-of-copper-wire manly-man hairs to replace them. Have faith, stay the course, me and my monster beard believe in you brother)
@@tonycampbell1424 I appreciate the encouragement haha I'm like eight years on T and can nearly grow a full beard now, though. I really resonated with Hank's experience of asking those questions and checking out other dudes' facial hair, just the general insecurity and excitement, at an unusual age relative to our peers. It opens some interesting reflection about masculinity, aging, gender expression, rites of passage, genetics, and a whole host of tangents from there.
I lost my little sister to cancer about a year and a half ago, and when I saw your videos, I initially felt like avoiding the hell out of them to avoid that trauma... But I've watched them anyways every time somehow, and I really think this is part of why. A lot of this is stuff I feel she would have expressed if she got the chance, and I do think that, in a small way, this helps to channel her voice. Don't feel guilty for surviving; survive for other cancer patients (and yourself) and be real about your experiences, because a lot of others didn't get the chance... And they're important experiences. You're so valid, and I deeply appreciate you talking about cancer. It's rough, and it feels almost taboo to bring it up because of the discomfort it causes.... But it's important, and life happens during cancer, after cancer, thoughts are born because of cancer... But they need to be shared, they need to be heard. Thank you
I'm sorry for your loss. Your comment is so beautiful and touching.
I'm so sorry that your sister lost her life. I'm glad you're finding comfort. Don't YOU forget to keep living as well ❤
I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm thankful you shared your thoughts. i lost my dad to cancer in 2021, and initially i also didn't want to be *in* too much on Hank's diagnosis and treatment. but you're right. those who survive cancer both the patient and those who supported the person who passed away because of cancer, should live and survive for those who didn't. i needed to read this, and it made me sob. thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing this. Stay strong friend we're here for you
This is beautiful and I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️
I think this is gonna be one of the ones I come back to often. Hank just processing, in what appears a very honest manner, for like 7min and then just such a wonderful ending.
Thank you for sharing what you have of your journey through cancer with us. I know that we don't have any right to know all of it and I'm grateful to have learned as much as I have through your process.
I really appreciate and enjoying watching you process these things out loud AND choosing to share them with the world.
The format of this video really adds to the experience for me, it feels a little more raw, certainly more existential, and the novel camera angles and shots add to a certain.... uncertainty.
Its an uncertainty that I won't know what's coming next or how it might feel, but I'm on the journey, and that feels like an apt metaphor here.
As John has said, Hank really is on a journey of meaning.
This joke really got so much more real than anyone ever thought it would. Like, that Dear Hank and John episode when they knew about Hank's cancer but we didn't went so so deep I was like, huh, and when I found out about Hank's cancer and I was like ooohhh
"I thought the work anxiety would distract me from the health anxiety." Oh, Hank, you are the most relatable. Anxiety doesn't work like that for me, either.
if it makes you feel less alone, me too! any anxiety triggers the health anxiety lol
I feel the "Oh Hank" in my bones.
Im so thankful for you posting your journey.
My mom had cancer 5 times and she is still kicking.
Im currently going through my first cancer scare, go in later this week for an ultrasound and mentally I’m all over the place…but seeing your videos is so calming.
Thank you for being awesome
Hope you got a positive outcome zoly.
I first became aware of your content through school, watching it in class with my old friends. My mum died of cancer early this april. Take advantage of your life and I wish you the absolute best in your recovery hank! You've influenced far more lives than you can ever know
I DID think "Hank looks like a nerdier Jason Statham" from the thumbnail! 😂 Literally the first reaction.
I'm done. I did it!
I knew someone would!! Love that
Hanks existentialism scoping down from the insane scope of the universe to the intimate relationship we all have with mortality has been quite the change.
And the intimate relationship we all have with facial hair
Thanks for sharing your feelings and thoughts so openly. You always seem like such a confident person, so for you to directly mentioning anxiety and other things is incredibly eye-opening.
❤ this video gives me a lot of comfort, I have had a lot of health concerns recently and it’s been hard for me , I’m feeling better , but facing your mortality and your physical limits sucks and it’s nice to hear others go through those thoughts in real time. So mundane but so hard to wrap your mind around, 🙏 Thanks
Yes! Hair changes were the most unexpected post chemo effect for me. After 43 years with stick straight hair, it grew back curly. Poodle curly. But as I was getting used to ringlets, my hair changed again, to slightly wavy with extra gray. Sigh. And I too enjoy the lack of blood donation guilt - although I'm AB+, so almost no one needs my blood. That was 20 years ago, btw. Chemo and surgery did their jobs, and I've been completely cancer free. Rooting for you!
Glad to hear it, heck yeah!
They need your plasma!!!
AB+ is the universal plasma donor (without the blood cells), and it's an even rarer blood type then O-, so blood banks would absolutely want plasma donations from anyone with this blood type who is eligible and willing to donate.
A past colleague once told a story about their hair after cancer. They got cancer in school around the start of winter break and had it pretty easy all things considered, they were done with treatment and their hair was growing back by the time they were back in school. Some girl he knew noticed his hair was different and touched it and found that it was incredibly soft. She asked him what he put in his hair to make it so soft and he had the privilege of getting to see her face when he told her "oh, just a little bit of cancer". He had a good laugh about it.
My hair came back so soft I couldn't stop touching it. I'm still using baby shampoo on it. It's cool.
Yeah, that can happen. I had a more distant friend, that did not know about my treatment and met him at a birthday party. When we talked he asked me how I manage to cut my hair that smooth, without any stubbles visible. He was quite shocked and most likely embarrassed he had asked afterwards ^^
I think I need to spend some time offline because after reading that story and having a chuckle I immediately thought of one of those clickbait ads with "Hairstylists HATE this one WEIRD trick!"
My mother got her hair back with no gray hair. At 73 she had less gray hair than I did at 50.
This was single handedly the most honest entertaining, informative just human video I think I've ever seen on youtube. Thank you for everything you do, and hopefully will continue doing. You're awesome man and you have this.
the editing and pacing in this video is actually so interesting and beautiful and feels so inherently youtube but also updated somehow to be more educational and consistent? just fantastic work all around
Hank being a universal donor is the most on-brand thing I’ve ever seen 😂❤
And feeling guilty for not donating enough🥹 Hank, you're already doing wayyyyyyyy more than the average person to decrease world suck. Be kind to yourself!
Jesse, we have to make a Vlogbrothers video
I was waiting for this
MAGNETS!
Walter Green
Yes this was my first thought!!!!
I had no idea he had cancer. You are an amazing human. I am so happy that you pulled through.
very happy to hear you’re doing as well as you can be with everything 💛
I think you would find this interesting, but when people have gastric bypass, they sometimes also re-roll their head and get completely different hair!
the hair loss begins bc their nutrient intake dips so significantly in the first few months but once they’re back to normal nutrient intake it grows back completely differently.
my friend had thin, straight, fine hair her entire life, but it grew back thick and curly
Anxiety doesn't usually block out other anxiety. It usually stacks. You may have a primary anxiety, but the secondary (tertiary, etc) is always there, lurking.
Was going to say just that. There seems to be 2 explanations that I've heard a lot. One is that the body recognize the feeling of anxiety, which triggers anxious thoughs (as that is the usual cycle, either thoughts - >body or the other way around, according to cognitive psychology).
The other explanation seems to be that the amygdala is working way too hard and just basically overactive. Doing stuff that calms the amygdala down does seem to work for a lot of people. Hence the 'you should go for a run when you have anxiety or depression' advise. Less can do it, like yoga, laughing, or doing any kind of exercise.
That was delightfully random, hilarious and deep. I love this format. :-) -Daven
I also enjoyed the introspection.
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Ditto
Oh heck! I didn't expect to see TIFO here! Love your content and amazing team of writers, editors and of course Fact Boy.
It's THE format (I guess this one had a much shorter mic cable)
Your chats about such mortal topics are great
I bloody love this channel and community. Stay well man
As a beard-grower who also didn't start until well into adulthood, I empathize with the "I'm asking questions that a teenager would ask" feeling. I can pass on what I learned, and hopefully it helps anyone reading this:
-first: folks with beards tend to be more open to talking about and complementing each other on their beards. I did not expect to receive compliments from strangers, but I opened up to it and learned a lot from other beard-havers that just wanted to share care tips.
-once you know what texture your beard will have: look for someone with similar texture to get recommendations for care tips (see advice #1). Mine is medium-curly with relatively thin follicles, and my care techniques may not help someone with dense/thick curls, or light/straight hair.
-for some beards: beard oil is NOT a luxury product. I didn't want this to be true for me, and my hubris led to lots of itching and painful tangles that weren't necessary. If find your new beard to be really itchy and easily tangled, try oiling it and combing it after a shower. Side tip: scent-preference is important. You will have to smell it all the time.
Yup, another option is to not wash your beard with shampoo all the time, you can just wash it really well with just water and optionally add conditioner to keep it nicely oiled which protects it and keeps it from itching
Yes, I was wondering if head hair conditioner would be good on a beard?
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I find that nice oil scented soap bars play nicely with my beard, they seem to moisturise the hairs about as well as oil does and is an avenue into floral and fruity scents rather than the traditional wood scents you usually get.
Obviously this is something to test as it seems every beard is different.
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ngl when I told my husband about your chemo beard, he knew this was a bad reaction and would never do it, but his first thought was that he wanted to try.....as someone who has always struggled with facial hair haha. sooo your fears are not unfounded 😬
I'm a trans man and I had the same reaction lmao. My hair is still changing from the hormones so I don't know where I'm gonna end up when it's all said and done, but right now I'd kill for some of this neckbeard to start creeping higher up my chin 😂
@@Avendesora Welcome to the beard club, new guy. Nothing wrong with being a work in progress.
Man, I'm in the same boat. Not quite on a first name basis with my facial hair (except tom on my left cheek and jerry on my right) but as a Mexican male the inability to grow a goatee hurts a lot.
I recently heard about a kind of chemo that essentially makes your blood toxic and, as a side effect, instantly kills mosquitos, and my immediate thought was "ooh, I gotta get some of THAT".
(Obviously, I wouldn't try to get on chemo just to wipe out the local mosquito population, but it's been a very buggy summer and I'm not surprised that my mind went there.)
@@Avendesora When I first started getting facial hair I had the same problem, but I don't take HRT so hopefully that doesn't make much of a difference. Love ya, and stay strong.
Thanks for talking us through this with you. I’ve never had cancer but I do have a relapse/remission autoimmune disorder that’s put me in the hospital a few times and the bit where you get your life back when you’re ‘better’ has always felt harder to me than the bit where you’re just trying to be well again. You will come back to yourself, it will just take a little time.
Thank you for sharing the realism in your experience and your existential thoughts. They have given me another way to look at life without having to live through your experience and I am glad you are still alive to share them.
I had the opposite reaction about finding out I couldn't donate blood. I started donating when my dad had a cancer where he regularly needed transfusions, so hearing that I had to be cancer-free for 5 years was a huge blow.
"I think that we all kinda get to keep posting after we're gone." Now there's a line that make me wonder which Green brother I'm hearing from.
Thanks for clarifying that you're not dead.
I think he was sarcastic when he said it. That he doesn't actually think it's good.
@@naturesfinest2408yeah he wants to but he feels less bad that he isn't doing it consistently because he actually had a reason now
I relate to the note about survivor's guilt as someone who had non-life-threatening cancer as a kid. Even though it had a huge impact on my life at the time and I know survivor's guilt is irrational, I sometimes feel a little unqualified to speak on cancer. Btw if anyone's wondering, it has never come back in 15 years, and these days I'm doing great health-wise!
wishing you many more years of health matthew.
But, but isn't all cancer life threatening
@@just.8797some are more than others, funny to see him down play his cancer though
i feel this so hard right now. I’m just about to finish treatment for my seemingly very chilled and harmless thyroid cancer and I feel so much survivors guilt when i’m in my wards with others having a much worse time of life :(
@@just.8797 I'm sure mine would have been if I never ever had treatment, but it was Stage 1 so it wasn't very concerning in that way
Hank you gave me one of the few soul smiles I’ve been able to have in the past weeks. I lost my wonderful mom last month and this video made me happy. I have some recordings of my mom both audio and visual so I can listen to our chats. I look forward to looking at them later. You sir are awesome.
I am so sorry for your loss. May you find comfort when you need it the most. ❤
I'm so happy you're still here, making videos, and talking about your experience. Thank you.
My Dad died on this day.
One thing I learnt in his absence is that I can reach out to him in the form of the influence he has had in how he has lived and how he has raised me and my siblings.
His headstone has the inscription "To live in hearts we leave behind is not to die."
You share so much, in so many ways, so generously that you are in very many hearts and will continue to be so.
All the best for your recovery and remission and thank you for everything you do ❤
*hugs*
When my sister "rerolled" she got the a full head of her natural color, no grays. Mid to late 30s (did chemo late 20s) and not a single gray, when gray comes early in our family. All the rest of us siblings started graying in our early to mid 20s. She also had some grays before the chemo made it fall out.
Love you buddy, thanks for being open and sharing your experience.
Hank, tripping out on his own thoughts. Yup, that sounds like a Green Brother!
Know that I and my son think you are awesome. I am glad that you feel comfortable enough to work through processing all of what you have gone through and are going through in video format, because I know it is helping me feel less alone and I am quite sure it is helping others too. I am so glad that you were able to stick around and keep being your awesome self.🥰🥰
I'm glad you're alive. I grew a beard after starting on testosterone. Took ages to come in but it's kind of wild and woolly now. My brother, on the other hand, had always found it hard to grow a beard. Turned out he has Klinefelter syndrome - the mosaic XY/XXY form. Now he's on testosterone injections too. He came to me with all sorts of questions. It's been so fascinating! Me, a transguy, answering questions from my cisgender brother about testosterone therapy. How weird and kind of cool is that?
this is so cool! :]
This is the kind of story that more people need to know. Gender Affirming care, Of Any Kind, is Human Care. Thank you for sharing this!
@@Me3stRNot only that, but as this poster demonstrates, it's care that can treat cis folks as well as trans folks.
Im glad you have a healthy relationship with your brother.
@@GiantPetRatIt's true. As a post-menopausal cis woman, my natural testosterone levels started rising so now I take spironolactone to make it have less effect on me. As I understand it, this is the same med given to many trans women. Gender affirming care is for everyone.
My mom was a redhead before chemo and ended up having the same auburn brown hair that I do once she entered remission. It also went from straight to wavy. She loved her red hair, so it was incredibly difficult for her to process, but we also all found it super interesting. She's been in remission since 2006, and it's still auburn and wavy to this day! But she's also in her 60s, so at this point, we're more in awe that she still hasn't had a grey hair yet. Genetics, a weird side effect, or both? Time will tell!
My dad is the same way w the late greying! It’s almost like when his hair grew back it was baby hair again and the timer restarted
As some one that got grey hairs in my early 20's late teens, that is so cool.
I don't know exactly how gray hair work, my mom and 2 of her sisters have gray hair, and one of her sister, the third one, can count her gray hair, and all of them are 70+ years old
I really relate to the oh things can still work ok without me. I feel like I have to help and be there and do the stuff and sometimes I’m so so stressed and I don’t wanna be there but there I am. And recently I’ve finally got to step back a bit and life is still stressful but I’m not at my job as much and wouldn’t you know, the place is still functioning. There are some me specific things I caught up on but the place isn’t falling apart cuz I’m clocking less hours. Makes me feel like I set things up alright to succeed and also like I mean nothing when I feel very essential lol. I’m glad you’re on the other side of cancer Hank. I’ve lost too many people this year and I’m really glad you’re still here to share these thoughts and feelings with us. ❤
I think you, Mr Green, was the first ever TH-camr I subscribed to. I've fallen back in love with you with these blogs. I love this getting high and posting video content.
I remember having a teacher who had multiple rounds of chemo across several different experiences with cancer. Each time she lost her hair, it grew back thicker and darker. It was so strange to watch it happen over time. She taught multiple grades, so I was her student from the age of about 10 until I was 18. She also had children during this time, so I remember her very clearly as this super petite, thin blonde haired soroity-looking woman when I was a child to a dark brunette with coarse hair and a filled-out body when I was an adult myself. It was surreal to experience that transformative period in my life along with *her* incredibly transformative period of her life.
It’s like her character got replaced with a different actor haha.
@@Franklin2OO7 oh yeah. She got married during this time too so her name even changed. It was like they full on swapped out the wife in a sitcom and pretended like it never happened
Even without cancer, it's surprising how much our bodies continue to change over time. As a kid I thought you grew up, and then once grown up you were done with all that. But rerolling hair style is wild. I wonder if they can trigger that without the chemo.
@@gelfling Yeah, I'm friends with her on Facebook and she loves to share her memories on her TL because of how radically different she looks. If you focus on the face, it's the same lady with a few extra wrinkles but she doesn't even look like she's *related* to her old self.
Edited to add: She does look a lot happier now, a lot less anxious and she's been going strong with over 5 years in remission! Just checked her page and figured it was worth mentioning.
"I am growing stronger everyday"
My brother and I lost Mom to cancer. She was a really sweet person you would have liked--everyone who met her liked her a lot--and she'd have wanted you to live and not feel guilty about it. I'm glad you're here.
Condolences.
Thank you very much. Have a nice day. @@barefootalien
Lots of us get it. I lost my dad the first week of July. Everybody loved him, too. And I know he loved us. Remember that about your mom, rudetuesday.
As a teacher, I love your work and your joy, Hank. Feel joy as often as you can. We all deserve to do that.
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's so hard and I hope you can relive so many good memories with her *sending support*
I'm so sorry for your loss. She was obviously a great Mom though, Because you are a beautiful person.
❤ to you and your brother.
Videos like these are what make Hank such an important human and a treasure.
What a great video! I’m glad you are taking time to recover and regroup…but wow can’t wait for your podcast to return so we can hear John compare his beard to yours! Green brothers rock!
ISTFG Hank is the most wholesome human. This incredibly genuine public display of emotional processing after an incredibly difficult situation is something we all need more of.
I see this face grow? I shit through flubby goobers? In society time favours Greens?
I thought it's DFTBA Hank
"I know it's irrational, but so are a lot of my thoughts these days, so we're just working through them," is the thing I needed to hear someone else say so I could say it myself, you know, using the thoughts and words of the people we don't know who influence us. Thank you for posting, as always.
we need these words when we least expect to ever hear or need then
This has been one of my favorite videos and I've been here for a LONG time
Laughed at the “nerdy Jason Statham part”. As a fellow O negative that reminded me of getting back to blood donations. And thank you Hank for the content - a dear friend of mine is mourning a loss of his father to cancer and your videos help me be a more companionate friend
God I love The Format. So laid back, comfortable, but full of serious and complex thoughts and questions! Who would have thought a video of Hank trying something new in a hotel would become the best new thing?
The Format* in this particular video is stellar: Giant paint cans, the artistic use of the mannequin... The visual representation of "many of my thoughts are irrational these days...and we're just, working through them". 🎉
The new office WORKS for the format
Such a great video!! Extremely practical and just awesome. Thanks a ton for making this man!!!❤❤❤
Oh my freaking gord! You got John’s wandering on the mic skills down. Bravo. I love this wandering around, never knowing where you’re going to appear on the screen.
I dont want to speak for anyone else, but as someone who's lost a loved one to cancer, I need to see and hear stories like yours, Hank. I don't know how to share or explain it properly, but after it was all "done", I felt like I'd lost all ability to hope, and I was filled with so much cynicism and bitterness at times.
This is why I wish with all my heart for your survivor's guilt to pass. You shared your story, and I was able to see someone winning the fight, sharing their fears and hope and even just intellectual curiosity. Your fight with cancer reminded me that we *can* win, and that every "soldier" in this war on cancer saves more lives down the line. So let me say it one more time.
Thank you, Hank Green.
Thank you for sharing your fight.
Thank you for sharing your fear and anxiety.
And most of all, thank you for being Hank.
Thank you for this. As a cancer "survivor" for going on eight years now, I still struggle with survivor's guilt and impostor syndrome of being a survivor (to the point that I feel like I don't deserve the term and use quotation marks when talking to people). Others have had cancers far worse than mine, and despite going through mastectomy, chemo, radiation, and long term medication, it felt like I had the cheat code as my cancer mutation was of a low grade, and thus, not as aggressive.
I've shared my experience with others going through chemo/radiation/surgery because I remembered how much I *didn't know* going into treatment, and how much learning from someone else's journey helped me. And yet I could not shake the feeling that I'm an impostor for sharing my experience, as if I don't deserve to share it.
You have no idea how much I needed to hear your perspective. It was healing.
Thank you.
THIS!!! A milllion times this! I need to know someone else can survive and thrive having cancer. Partly because I feel like another person with cancer is an extension of my loved one and in some weird way they get to live on in another way. The other part is to remind me that a person can heal from this. I feel like I'm allowed to hope and pray for others. This isn't to pressure survivors. It's just really nice for those that have lost someone to see that you're here.
Papillary thyroid cancer gal here! I really appreciate your cancer content because it helps me not feel so alone. Thank you Hank ❤
Agreed. I found out about my DLBL just before Hank found out about his cancer, so I feel like we went through it together!
Yep, I was diagnosed in Jan and then seeing Hank's diagnosis and others like me showing up in the comments has really helped.
you're really cool man, never appreciated the tiny constants in my life much, appreciate your vids!
LOVE SEEING THE FORMAT AGAIN HANK and love the beard!
The hair thing happened to my cousin! It curled into these beautiful tendrils and was so glossy and healthy! It’s been a few years and it’s pretty much returned to normal. Might be the same for you! Enjoy having different hair for a while!
Yes! My mom's hair changed from brown and curly to black and straight - was odd! Also returned to normal after a few years.
Mine was curly when it grew back until it got past my shoulders
@@ShaynaButlerthat's fascinating. So, your hair has to have been partially curly and also straight at one point, right? Like curly at the end and straight at the root?
The major 7 days, but no one ever talks about the 6 minor ones.
my favorite is captain Picard day..... "it's for the children"
The sharps and flats of the week.
Leap day is a minor one probably
And it goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor falls and the major lifts
Tuesnesday
I adore this video. The quiet chaos of this video is amazing.
So happy you have finished treatment without too many negative side effects. You have so much more good work to complete. Love to you and John. 😊👍👍
I just found out my cancer is back for the second time, and it's most likely i will need chemo. For someone who has inspired my whole career journey, it's been a huge aide to be able to hear your experiences and know there's a way & a hope.
Good luck with chemo. Rest as much as you need and don't feel guilty about it. I've slept for 12 hrs after chemo cause I was really tired. Oh and if you get constipated, take a laxative loke restoralax before bed so you can have a bowel movement.
When you say your cancer is back for the second time do you mean you’ve been in remission twice? If so I can’t imagine that, my feelings would be so constantly mixed up. Either way, I hope you go into remission again and it doesn’t come back this time!
thats terrible knowing its come back, but i know you can beat the shit out of cancer a second time bro hang in there
You’ve got this.
Hope all goes well.... its nice when someone we idolize has a shared experience
4:48, you don't have to suffer and\or die in order to share your journey with others. Every journey is different and worthy of being listened to. I feel like I have to say it to myself as well
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I'm happy for you and I thoroughly enjoyed this video, because many of us have been in this anxious restless irrational space and had to just work through it. I'd also like to say there's this thing called "pressured speech" and I just wish you all the best in your healing journey. ❤❤❤
Every time I come here I adore this being more and more. We love you Hank!
Hank has entered Disney villain arc and im all here for it
Your profile pic is giving Hank
HEISENHANK
I think hank could accomplish world domination if he really wanted to. Especially with nerdfighteria on his side... lol
It cracks me up that I see you on almost all the same channels I watch! DFTBA fam!
My grandma recently got cancer that she, as an 86 year old widow, decided to not do anything to treat and let it gracefully be her cause of death whenever it comes to that. It's been helpful to see your journey and get a sense of that.. breadth of experience with this disease and also fully understand why she's choosing to not try to beat it back. I think it is the best decision for her and now there's nothing to do but enjoy the time. In the end it's just a slightly faster clock than we thought.
Enjoy this beautiful time together 🧡
" a slightly faster clock than we thought" is such a beautiful way of conceptualizing it. I wish you and your grandmother joy
My father is getting out of prostate cancer at 70 after several years of scares and chemo and hormonal treatments and radiotherapy. Sadly we live far away in different countries but in a way hearing you maks me feel like talking to him. As you said in another video, science has improved cancer treatment so I am "glad" this all happened today and not decades ago. I hope you stop feeling survivor's guilt, all of us your fans are happy you continue to be around, I know it's not only a matter of saying "hey don't feel that!" but I just hope it gets better along with all other anxieties. I myself work in cancer research and I'd like coin the term "scientist's guilt" because I feel like I should've been able to help my father but I could only sit and wait and support him from far away.
I thoroughly enjoyed the editing of this video. The frequent cuts, from many angles, felt like I was following a visual representation of how your brain works.