Is my ring really Titanium?

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  • Many myths follow Titanium from being impossible to scratch, ding, break, or discolor. Finding out whether you really have a Titanium ring (or Titanium metal object) can be done if you really think you've been scammed! Here I'll touch on a few methods from easy to more complex testing both physical and chemical properties of the metal to determine if what you have is truly Titanium.
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  • @Thashiznitov1
    @Thashiznitov1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My right ear enjoyed this.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My mic was probably only pushed half way in...lol Oh well

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  • @namis1799
    @namis1799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this amazing video, I just placed an order for a Titanium ring which costed me quite a lot. Will try atleast the first test once I pick it up. Very helpful video. Cheers!

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you need help with that or any resizing, just let me know
      www.etsy.com/listing/605654719/titanium-ring-resizing?ref=shop_home_active_10&pro=1

  • @fladoodel
    @fladoodel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That intro was something else

  • @roncoleman9502
    @roncoleman9502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks very informative. I.like a lot of others thought that it was so hard that wouldn't bend. I actually have some in my knee. Very good video. I learn something every time I watch one of these videos. You the man Mike keep it up

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The main reason most think its impossible is because most jewelers won't resize or work on stainless steel or titanium due to liability if it breaks because most jewerly shops don't have an oven that will peak upwards of 900F to do it, that and the fact it does wear on your tools pretty hard. I take it in a bit of a different way, I'm not so worried about the tools because I repair and resize enough bands that it more than pays for the replacement of my tools when needed and if done right, you shouldn't have to replace your tools like mandrel stretchers but once a year which is a lot compared to most that keep their mandrels for many years. Never the less, it makes money for our troops and it allows me the ability to offer a service for my customers few if any others are willing to do.

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  • @TON-vz3pe
    @TON-vz3pe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video.

  • @deamoore120
    @deamoore120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this video and thank you. I wanted to purchase a titanium Batman ring but I don't think it is real. Do you make custom rings?

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dea Moore Hello Dea, thanks for the chuckle. Yes, I do make custom rings all the time and making a Batman ring for you or something wouldn't be a problem. Actually I've been only recently hit with all kinds of requests for DC and Marvel Comics. I've made Spiderman inspired rings, Green Lantern, Spawn, Red Lantern and most recently had this customer have me design this Captain America ring www.etsy.com/listing/784786222/custom-designed-ring-order-for-kaitlin?ref=shop_home_active_4&frs=1
      Of course this is just a concept drawing in the ad but you'll find it available soon online as I've just finished it and it came out incredible. Of course I will make any kind of customized ring according to my customers specs from comic to high fashion and would love to hear from you on your idea. Simply go to www.PatriotCoinRings.com and message me there on my website to describe what you are looking for. If you have no idea other than maybe a theme ie. "something that would represent batman" we could start there and work through the details and draw up some concept designs you might be interested in, I'd love to hear from you 😎😍

  • @s.k.80
    @s.k.80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Sir, is there a way to make a titanium ring silver or almost white? similar to palladium or platinum? i have searched the whole internet without success and would be really grateful if you have an answer.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I higher tin content in the titanium results in a brighter silver for sure but to make it that whitish silver look we would need to plate the titanium which yes, can be done to some rings although titanium admittedly isn't the best material to adhere to without a base and barrier metal plating first. Then you just plate platinum, white gold or your choice of precious metal direct. If you would like to discuss the idea of a custom ring being made further, simply go to www.PatriotCoinRings.com and message me there direct where we can discuss your needs further. Thanks, Michael

  • @onewithnature8435
    @onewithnature8435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And if you had a choice of metal for a wedding band, what would you choose? Thanks-

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *GREAT QUESTION!!!* and the answer would depend on what I did for a living, if I worked in construction in contrast to the office, if I worked with electrical equipment and needed non-conductive material or not, but in short "for me" Tungsten is my favorite because of it's weight! I love the feel of a little weight on my finger plus it gives the ring a really valued feel in my opinion in contrast to Titanium which has many benefits as well but for me again, for me is just too light weight. I also like the idea if my finger gets caught up in machinery I do in fact work around, I love the idea I can smack it with anything hard near by to shatter it off my finger saving my finger from being cut off like often happens with Titanium and is why Tungsten is highly recommended by physicians especially for those who work with machinery or in construction.
      Great Question!

    • @onewithnature8435
      @onewithnature8435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PatriotCoinRings Thank you, I'm the guy who messaged you on etsy. You have great video's and I plan on purchasing a ring from you in the future.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onewithnature8435 Thank you for the kind compliment and I look forward to working with you. Your Friend, Michael, www.PatriotCoinRings.com

  • @onewithnature8435
    @onewithnature8435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm interested in getting a titanium wedding band, but have read it is a hard metal, and in an emergency, medical staff would not be able to cut it off. What are your thought's on this? Thanks-

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Titanium is in fact the second hardest steel known to man despite its space age and extremely light feel. It has become one of the two most popular metal alloys to make a ring out of but as you stated, being in the medical field or for anyone working around machinery, you should reconsider what medical professionals recommend most and that would be Tungsten Steel which is the #1 hardest steel known to man and by far the most scratch and ding resistant. That may sound odd being that it's harder but the fact is that it's so hard, its density is much greater and in the event of an accident like getting your finger caught up in some machinery or other, it's very easy to take nearly anything nearby like even as thin as a metal screwdriver or other, give it a quick whack and it will shatter right off your finger allowing you to quickly pull your finger free.
      Yes, it sucks to break a ring but it sucks even more to lose a finger!
      Tungsten is by far my personal favorite for that reason and the fact that it's heavier which "for me", I prefer to feel some weight to my rings. In my mind, the weight adds to what feels like a more high fashion accessory over a super lightweight but everyone has their own opinion on that. Further, Tungsten is more Hypoallergenic than Titanium. Here are a couple links that should help you out further.
      1. A TH-cam Video on Tungsten vs Titanium Rings...
      th-cam.com/video/_cJS_CGmNUA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PatriotCoinRings
      2. A link to our Tungsten Carbide Rings you may check out but if you don't see what you are looking for, simply ask. I custom-make rings of all kinds according to my customer's specifications and directions...
      patriotcoinring.com/shop/21476921/tungsten-carbide-rings
      HOPE THIS HELPS 😎

  • @jamesdibiase346
    @jamesdibiase346 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, thanks.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a customer question whether what they got was really Titanium so thought I'd answer in a public forum in case others were ever curious how to tell as well regardless of whether it was a ring or something else they've purchased.

  • @MarcusVines
    @MarcusVines 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks awesome! Can you make rings with a design in specific? Can you ship worldwide? Im from Guatemala! Great Job!!

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Marcus, yes I do ship worldwide. What specifically were you looking for in design?

    • @MarcusVines
      @MarcusVines 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank for your fast response! I'm looking for a simple text like "The Boss". How much it will cost? I'm from Guatemala! If you could send me an email with more information i would appreciate a lot of! marroquinmarcos.m@gmail.com

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      @PatriotCoinRings  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarcusVines Actually the best information I could give you regarding a ring purchase is to go to www.PatriotCoinRings.com to see a listing of abotu 400 rings. I have a lot more than that but plenty of coin rings from Guatemala! Here's the most popular one...
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  • @SuperDutchman59
    @SuperDutchman59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    take a titanium and write it on porcelain or glass, pressing hard, it writes like graphite, in black, if it doesn’t write, then it’s not titanium ..

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never heard of that one. So are you saying to take a titanium ring and to confirm it is titanium, scratch it against glass or porcelain and if it's written in black it is titanium but if it doesn't it's not? I'll need to try that and follow up with the results but sounds very interesting! Thanks for the tip!

  • @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309
    @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t know a titanium alloy ring bends so easy

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on how thick the band is, yea it can be bent fairly easily but won't shatter like Tungsten.

    • @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309
      @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PatriotCoinRings that’s cool I uploaded a video of the titanium ring maybe you should check it out

    • @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309
      @paducahandlouisvillerailro3309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PatriotCoinRings I have a titanium alloy spinning tire ring I bought off amazon

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video 👍
    But chrome plated brass and aluminium is too not magnetic. 🤔 How can it be tested without harming the titanium rings ect?

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, and I've honestly never had a problem with that. I should make another followup video of this topic addressing what you touched on which is a great question just showing exactly how to do that. Thank you for the recommendation and question as I'm sure it would help many jewelers.

    • @WaschyNumber1
      @WaschyNumber1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PatriotCoinRings Thank You 👍

  • @mysteryguy793
    @mysteryguy793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it. I thought they were dying them though

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Anodizing is either done by fire or by high voltage electrolysis in an acid base solution which I didn't get into on this clip however the later is what is used commercially and in my shop for very accurate coloring.

  • @vincentavin5848
    @vincentavin5848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the difference between 316L and titanium

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      316L is a grade of stainless steel. Ti22 is Titanium metal.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More can be learned from this video comparing Tungsten vs Titanium
      th-cam.com/video/_cJS_CGmNUA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PatriotCoinRings

  • @Hossman757
    @Hossman757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason Titanium is not magnetic is because it is classified as a non-ferrous metal. This means that it does not contain Iron ferrite. Certain grades of titanium will be magnetic casue they are alloid with ferrous metals.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent explanation, thank you.

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  • @thepenultimateninja5797
    @thepenultimateninja5797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A couple of points:
    Firstly, austenitic grades of stainless steel are non-magnetic. These are the types most commonly used in jewelry (such as 316l) and thus your magnet test will give a false positive on most stainless steel jewelry.
    Secondly, heating the metal to form an oxide layer is not anodizing. Anodizing is an electrolytic process, where the object to be anodized is connected to the positive electrode, or 'anode' of the power supply.
    Thirdly, while titanium can be colored with heat, so can many other metals, including stainless steel.
    It's true that the colors are subtly different, and an experienced person can tell them apart, but an amateur likely wouldnt be able to.
    Two tests that would actually work to distinguish titanium from steel would be real anoziding (which doesn't work on steel) and calculating the density by measuring the mass and volume.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ummm, well there are over 350 grades of Stainless Steel and 50 grades of "designated" steel. This does not account for various manufacturers creating their own composition blend. Some are magnetic, some are not but to be clear, I'm addressing jeweler-grade alloys here in this video.
      As for anodizing in case you didn't watch the video all the way through, I did talk about electrochemical anodizing and provided charts along with the required voltage needed to achieve specific colors. I simply mentioned fire because yes, you can anodize with fire although it's not as effective but a good way for the beginner to play around and with enough experience, it's no problem achieving the same and even color desired with fire but then again I've been doing this for about 16 years so what seems simple to me may not be for others. Again, fire was just a mention for those who want an easy DIY without needing a voltmeter. Another way a DIY could go about it is with a car battery and some baking soda but your experience of not being successful in using fire alone is a welcome comment. I will say you'll find less damage or mistakes to the ring or item with the electrochemical process than fire but to this day, many of my rings are anodized with this method especially when I want to achieve rainbow effects. More to the point yet again, I was referencing jewelry or even more specifically, rings and there are really only 4 primary grades used for jewelry. For these, stainless steel isn't even a consideration for me when I anodize because titanium holds it's color far better and deeper into the metal but depending on the job and customer request, I use different methods. For most solid color bands I use electrochemical treatments while for rainbow blended colors, I typically use an annealing technique. It's not mainstream but the point was that most viewers on TH-cam love DIY and I was sharing various methods which of course, access to using a simple propane torch is often easier than electrolysis and meeting the proper voltage, temperature, electrolyte density, and timing when you aren't sure of the grade of alloy you have thus the title of "how to tell if your titanium is real or not".
      It's a helpful tip for the novice and not meant for the experienced jeweler but I don't see any contradiction to what you said in comparison to what I said, I was just sharing some useful tips.

  • @GA-yv3zw
    @GA-yv3zw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that intro was so extra! makes me think you're feeling inadequate

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your comment makes me think your wishing you could do what I do but can't

  • @frankrizzo6272
    @frankrizzo6272 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like cheap 9 volt batteries. i get what ever i need.

    • @PatriotCoinRings
      @PatriotCoinRings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean, something to do with Titanium verification? You aren't saying you can get any color by anodizing with a 9v battery are you? Up to a hundred volts area needed in many cases as seen @4:00 (see chart)