I always thought about how planets are so big that when standing on one, you can't even tell that it's round. I think this can be applied to the universe. It's so big, and we are so small, it's impossible to see what it is. Just like a cell on a human would have no clue what a human looks like if it could see. I always thought the universe was possibly sentient. Planets are basically little cells compared to the entirety of it.
Yeah, that falls into a long held idea in Tao Buddhism. The consciousness we have is a single thing, not exclusive to any one being. So your conscious experience, your friends, strangers, animals, etc. Across all beings, across the entire universe are all one consciousness that belongs to the universe. Alan Watts explains this for western minds very precisely in his lectures. Our conscious experience is just the universe wanting to look itself in the mirror.
It’s very surreal yet comforting at the same time more & more people from all walks of life are not only having these types of conversations but becoming less surprised or shocked by theories like this. Almost normalized.
I was born and raised in Islamic family. In 5 years of time, I, along with my family have transitioned from super conservatism to more conciseness about the reality. I think internet and traveling has a lot of impact on this. This is my experience. And I mean the educational internet, non of that tik-tok shit.
Thank god Joe is bringing topics like these to the masses. It’s remarkable how much science and society as a whole ignores/forgets about arguably one of the most important questions of all time
He misses so many points, though. Many many advances throughout history came from the military than he mentions Obama who expanded drone strikes and through countries like Syria, Lybia and Tunesia into anarchy.
Terence Mckenna talked about this a lot with his notion of the "transcendental object at the end of time", or "the great attractor". He often spoke about us as some kind of catalyst that nature uses as a strategy to achieve certain goals.
@@waseem7195 yea sometimes I feel you and think such things as well… neither of us can know for sure. But if you remove that specialness you end up with a very sad existence. Whether or not it’s true, I personally feel that keeping the “specialness” is a much healthier state of being than consistently trying to remove it or “prove” it isn’t so. Also I can’t help but ask if you’ve ever experienced DMT or psilocybin? Or even LSD? I used to be that same kind of “skeptic atheist” when I was in high school haha (:
I’ve never met someone else in real life that knew who Terrence was. I’ve been onto him before I graduated high school in 2014. Introducing him to others who can comprehend such things is such a great thing to do. He was an angel.
@@waseem7195 really? I think it made us lesser than we think we are. We’re not here for ourselves. If anything for a bigger self- a bigger picture. But I don’t know what I believe- my thoughts and ideas are formulating and changing everyday. Every minute. I at one time thought we were just done when we’re done and made myself okay with it bc I don’t want to not be okay. But now my mind is so wide open that I don’t know what to believe bc in fact possibles are infinite- which is a thought I can’t even grasp in itself. Quantum physics right
@@waseem7195 Give your life to the Emperor. Find purity and perfection in the human form. Hate the alien, despise the mutant, purge the heretic. No sacrifice too great, no treachery too small.
EXACTLY. We literally ARE a part of the universe. It's hard to deprogram people from this concept that they are this separate entity and the rest of the universe revolves around them, I guess.
@@TheIncredibleStories Of course we are part of the Universe, but rn we are definitely living separately from other Consciousness life forms, if they exist
Love the idea of chaos being an outward expression of a system demanding change. That is a fantastic way to think about and approach the “problems” in every aspect of our world. Brilliant.
but what perception of chaos? To me the animated is the chaos and the inanimate is order. If the universe could observe itself, would it wonder what the hell is up with all this stuff going on in these random specks all over me.
“You are not in the universe, you are the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” - Eckhart Tolle
Find someone else who says it better, Eckhart Tolle evolved from the mad magazine mascot Alfred E Newman and speaks as if his mind is barely moving, you can 2x his videos and still fall 😴
I have seen the argument that we are the mental construct of the Universe, so a rippling out of the universe, each a limited view point which enriches the whole viewpoint. Sort of like showing your work in a complex math problem. Each step provides value almost apart from just getting the answer. The why, to the how to the what. Imagine a being that states "I am" and then tried to figure out what it can be. Imagine this as the universe. It splits itself until it can see itself from every possible viewpoint, focussing on every degree within the whole of anything and everything. Example on that. Light and dark or hot and cold are part of the same thing, difference is by degrees. Dark is absence of light, cold absence of heat. We see them as separate, and infinity so, because with our limited minds we can't process it as a whole mentally. But, if you categorize every viewpoint in a "database" then it serves a purpose when put together, quite literally putting infinity together piece by piece. I have seen it suggested that if we are the consciousness of the universe, we are just learning, and we are just learning about what has already happened. Like time is a concept, a focus on a degree rather than the whole. Time is thought to be a man made concept, but if we are potentially the universe's mind, then it would suggest that time is a tool to understand itself. Universe feels and makes things happen. We think and add meaning and value to those feelings. This would also suggest that there is no good or bad. So the "I am" simply "is" rather than "is something specific." The universe is everything, and we are only separate in a grand type of thought experiment that is being done to gain true meaning in "self." Watch Jim Carey's interviews or people who have compiled his stuff to claim he is not "crazy" but waking up to "reality". Now, if Jim is not crazy, and people are waking up to this, if it be true, then we would only be waking up to half truths, because we cannot fathom or grasp a whole truth which encompasses infinity. But why wake at all? Why be concious of the potential fact that we're just a "field of energy dancing for itself?" As Jim explains? Well, I think that if every person is a particle within a multidimensional mental abstraction, then some particles need to know what it is like to know, and some need to know what it is like to "finish" their part. A particle of god, or the universe, is playing out it's role exactly as it should and gets to. I believe the ones that come to such a knowledge are close to finishing their part of the thought experiment. Once finished it returns to the void or the source of everything and becomes like the budist joke "one with everything" having realized it was never separate at all. Meanwhile the rest of us are still playing things out wondering if we are in a Shakespeare comedy or tragedy day to day. I jest a little, however, I actually think these ideas have merit and personally believe it works quite similarly to how I've explained, but on a much more grand and incomprehensible (to a human) way. Certainly fun to think about and makes up for "why bad things happen to good people." Answer = infinity. In infinity everything happens. Like that new movie Anything Everywhere All At Once. Nothing matters in this idea, and at the exact same time everything matters because nothing and something are the same thing diferences are only by degrees. This means a multiverse is real, other lives are real, and quite literally anything you can think of is real somewhere somehow. We just happen to live here and now, and it works within the rules of this particular reality.
amazingly put and you articulated my position entirely. Much love and celebration from Melody in Seattle! Make the self actualization happen- for yourself, others, the world, and the gratitude that comes with that knowledge by the universe itself
It's wild how many people in these comments, and on this show, need to explore Hinduism. The entire backbone of Hinduism is the idea of Brahman, that the Universe is the supreme consciousness. -source, I'm Hindu
I love this conversation. Joe is entertaining some serious philosophical talk. Refreshing to see and not difficult to see there is an audience that is waaaay ready to expand their consciousness.
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Alan Watts nailed it. We are the universe observing itself. Apertures of light. Also the famous Freeman Dyson said and I will paste it here. This is what he is getting at. “It is remarkable that mind enters into our awareness of nature on two separate levels. At the highest level, the level of human consciousness, our minds are somehow directly aware of the complicated flow of electrical and chemical patterns in our brains. At the lowest level, the level of single atoms and electrons, the mind of an observer is again involved in the description of events. Between lies the level of molecular biology, where mechanical models are adequate and mind appears to be irrelevant. But I, as a physicist, cannot help suspecting that there is a logical connection between the two ways in which mind appears in my universe. I cannot help thinking that our awareness of our own brains has something to do with the process which we call "observation" in atomic physics. That is to say, I think our consciousness is not just a passive epiphenomenon carried along by the chemical events in our brains, but is an active agent forcing the molecular complexes to make choices between one quantum state and another. In other words, mind is already inherent in every electron, and the processes of human consciousness differ only in degree but not in kind from the processes of choice between quantum states which we call "chance" when they are made by electrons.”
I love that sentiment, I always used to say that the universe is the closest thing to a God that exists and is known and that God is in every single one of us as we are the universe's way of observing itself. The universe gives us meaning and in turn we give the universe meaning. I am not a theist in any way shape or form but it's nice to have something to believe in :)
When I was a kid in school I always was shocked of images showing the universe as this series of objects rotating and moving through space looked so similar to designs of a living organisms brain with connections and structure looking similar. Made me wonder if we are just very small organisms living inside something much larger then the universe. And that heat death of the universe is inevitable because the organism we are inside eventually has to die.
So how do they reconcile complexity with entropy ? Evolution whether driven by purpose or not is clearly not following entropy... nor is an ever complexifying cosmos, rhe two are irreconcilable...Even if you say that somehow entropy causes complexity through chaos, ill point out that its still no longer entropy if novelty contunies to occur...
Well as science advances it's heavily pointing towards intelligent design and not naturalism. We have the wholly Christian concept of the big bang being solidified in 2009. The discovery of DNA, all life based on an immaterial concept information. We have the overwhelming evidence of fine tuning in the universe. The discovery the whole universe and it's 13.8 billions years required just so one earth and humanity can exist in the universe, there is no waste it was all needed and we are largely the earliest life can exist in the universe, the universe is actually very young. And other amazing discoveries such as the quantum holography of genetics and so on and so on. The universe is inherently coherent, this requires a mind behind it, God.
The universe has been awaken for…hundreds of millions of millennia. We are a part of the awakened thing, but we are not awakened. We begin awakening when we realize this and start towards enlightenment. Enlightment isn’t the goal, enlightenment is like slapping a turbo, a new radiator, a new intake, and an intercooler to upgrade but not fundamentally change YOU. Just how you operate, here and there
Yes humans are waking up and recognising their own behaviour. There are 700,000 people on Reddit raised by a narcissistic parent support where they recognise that family scapegoat one child. Recognising that pattern seems to be an ethical shit shift and shift in human behaviour to recognise Family scapegoating. To become conscious they need to recognise the unconscious behaviour in family groups and individuals. To recognise Family scapegoating seems to be the most simple but complex thing to do.
Er, Humans are parts of the Universe. We are not separate from it, we are literally embedded within it. We are entities permissible by the laws of physics, and every atom that makes up a Human is a atom of the Universe. Therefore if humans are conscience, then the Universe is implicitly conscience also. There is no separating Humans from the Universe, they are one in the same.
For me the universe is the original conscious and split it’s self up into separate conscious to converse/debate/hurt/love with itself. To experience all things first hand as it’s better than learning through a 3rd party. Which is why we forget our past lives when we’re born and pass our trauma/mistakes onto our children so each child has the best chance to make a mistake and learn from it.
Seems like the universe is just a useful model to contextualize our perceptual experiences, but its not reality. Atoms, molecules, neurons and such are reconstructions of what is actually there according to our model of a space-time universe, but its just a useful mode that got us along through natural selection. It completely leaves out anything fundamental because what is fundamental is not useful, simplified models of fundamental reality optimize for information that is useful to increase our fitness, to ensure that this biological structure will survive and pass on its genes, not so that we consciously perceive this all accurately.
It's insane to see us, conscious beings, (the universe and existence personified, literally) ask ourselves if we are conscious while exercising consciousness.
What if we are the individual cells of the universal mind? What if the universe is already conscious and we are a product of that?. Maybe the universe is one big brain that were trapped in.
Joe seriously needs to have *Bernardo Kastrup* on his podcast. Kastrup's take on consciousness is what we all need. Kastrup basically argues that in the same way your brain is what your consciousness looks like, the inanimate universe as a whole is the 2nd person perspective of consciousness.
What a load of bullshit. You people speak in such complicated and big words that delude stupid people that it is possible to have conscience and intelligence emerge in a world with no creator behind it. No matter how much you complicate or try to spin it, even an idiot knows that this is lunacy. You cannot have a world filled with intelligent sentient conscious beings without a creator God behind this. Stop running after your worldly hedonistic desires and submit to the One Almighty Creator God, who was not born and does not give birth.
Pseudo science, science is naturally pseudo, it’s hear say through thought. Perception, this is more so a philosophy than anything. Everything has a cosmic consciousness when it’s apart of life. Atoms to the giants who roamed earth millions of years ago. See how that sounds? We don’t know anything beyond ourselves and what we think is real, true or false. It all falls back on what we think. It is nothing special, If we get a chance to share ideas with other species (aliens). In that time we’ll have a better grasp on life, and consciousness. But overall I think the universe has life, otherwise it wouldn’t have created it. Is it per say conscious? Idk, ask how they feel, lol. Almost like talking to god, just not all that there. We are lucky our universe even made us to perceive these moments.
You guys should check out the *Theories Of Everything* podcast with Curt J. THAT is the place for deep discussions about consciousness done in a fantastic format with the kind of follow-on questions you'd hope for. Highly recommended over JRE for these deeper ponderings.
One thing I tend to think about regarding this discussion is Carl Jung’s idea of “individuation.” Basically, individuation is the self achieving wholeness as a result of marrying opposite things together (the conscious and unconscious mind for example). What if the emergence and development of life is the universe’s attempt at seeking individuation?
There is about 700,000 individuals on Reddit her waking up to being raised by narcissistic personality disorder parent and experiencing family scapegoating patterns of abuse. I’m not sure what conscious that is waking up but it’s waking up some and recognise pattern in humans. Which suggests humans have been largely unconscious of their own behaviour. Redditt technology narcissistic abuse something is waking humans up to recognise patterns in behaviour
The so-called "natural laws" of the universe, the course of nature, its tendency to turn entropy into order, those are CLEAR indications of the unconscious part of the universe manifesting itself. The universe isn't traditionally conscious because it doesn't have cognition, it doesn't think, but that doesn't mean it isn't alive. The collective psyche of life forms the conscious part of the universe.
To answer the question of what the purpose is of expanding consciousness, one must understand what’s beyond the universe. But I think that, in and of itself, just points to the reason- it expands *because* there is something beyond us, and the boundaries of what we know exists or could exist. Maybe beyond what is even tangible.
We have a tendency to focus on the physical while being conscious. Most of what we analyse and debate on is somewhat verifiable through “physics” bound to the physicality. We know consciousness is there as we experience it, but we yet have to understand and maybe accept that it could be part of everything else.
The problem with that is we all experience consciousness differently. And it's no quantifiable it can't be measured so modern science turns there noses at it. I'm sure as we progress as a society both technologically and spiritually consciousness will be given a second chance. Just look at all the study they are doing with psychedelics
The amount of content that is provided by joe is amazing, he has had thousands of different topics and people with different content from all around the world. Thanks Joe for providing me with endless entertainment.
If people are thinking we're conscious and the universe is "catching up" then you're missing the point. Maybe we'll become TRULY conscious once we catch up to the universe.
We are playing the role, but I agree we are products of the universe, so as an extension of the universe we are catching up by finding out as gradually as we humans can might do
@@OnPointFirearms we are definitely of consequence. Mountains are large because they don’t scorn the merest handful of dirt, and the oceans large because they accept the contributions of tiny streams.
The clip got me thinking and I got a few questions to ask. Please give me some insight. 1. Who's to say that the universe isn't a living organism? It's its own self contained ecosystem. That seems to evolve. 2. Why aren't we the only living thing in the universe? Without the invention of time travel, wormholes, or any time and space warping technology. With distance in mind wouldn't another civilization already be extinct? More like we all just living in a place in time. 3. Who's to say that conscious escapes the universe in the 1st place? Maybe that's also self contained as well as everything else.
The "goal" of Universe / Creation / Source - is to know itself through experiencing every possible scenario. It is achieved by division to individual consciousness called Souls and giving them free will to create their experiences on their own terms.
I’ve thought about this many times. That the universe could be a living organism. It intrigues me how much solar systems are like atoms. With a nucleus (sun) at the centre with electrons (planets) orbiting that nucleus and most of the atom is made up of empty space. Same as a solar system. What if the solar systems are atoms and we are part of the make up of atoms in a living organism. I need to lie down just thinking about it lol
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@@Ddub1083 exactly yeah there is another model called string theory (don't know if it is related to the main one people think about) where they are modelled as strings with various amounts of notches in it like a guitar.
the basics of atoms which you learn is school is not correct it's just easier to explain to a 12y.o. child especially when the information is likey to be never used.
@@chrisatcgh string theory is the theory that different types of matter are composed of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. not sure what notches you mean.
I wondering, is consciousness and soul the same if so, could it be animism since all we know of in existence is matter and where could it be at that experience the life?
The universe didn’t give us consciousness, through time and randomness, evolution crated life. Life wasn’t given, it was created randomly. Btw the universe isn’t a thing, it’s just a name for the group of all things.
Except, out of all the life that we know of here on Earth, Humans are the only ones that we know of that have made it out into space, under our own volition... So, not very "tiny", in that sense. And as far as physical size, well Hell, there is a LOT smaller than us.
@@StanHowse so if a quantum particle to a human is as small as a human brain to the Universe, isn't the answer quite obvious? We looks at the Universe and the Universe does look back at us!
I'll say it again. I think the natural human response, without outside influence, to realizing our own existence would be "I'm here, there must be something else out there" rather than "I'm here, there's no way there other life elsewhere"
Humans are too complex, I think life is a complete miracle and that people who assume there has to be life out there because we are here are ignorant to how special we really are.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 I don't disagree that our concious life is a miracle but everything in our living world is immensely complex... I think part of the challenge of our evolution or ascension is figuring out whether we are more special than other lifeforms, or if we are simply one of many.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 The fact that we are here, regardless of any subjective assessment you have regarding our "complexity", is itself proof that we live within a universe and under a set of natural laws that provide for our emergence and existence. IF those laws are in fact universal (as they appear to be) then there is no reason to assert there is something "special" about our particular existence. True, we may well find that the emergence of the particular configuration of matter that constitutes life might be vanishingly rare (something we've yet to determine) but at present there's no reason to assert miracles are required when the principles that appear to govern the totality of our universe are sufficient.
The single mind connected by the internet really stood out to me as someone who works in IT. We have neurons in our brains connected by pathways. What if we are the human equivalent of that same system on a much larger scale and the internet is that pathway for us. We can then scale it up even more and think of planets as neurons connected within the galaxy using a system we are yet to understand
Thinking of synchronicity and the way I see Angel numbers, the universe is always a million steps ahead. And how we can manifest things to existence, we could all be the universes shared consciousness like a network
I think the universe is already conscious, in it's own way. And that we are the natural by-product. Operating on an infinitely smaller scale, so that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal. There is probably other life out there that we cannot comprehend, but which itself is part of the bigger picture.
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“So that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal” - we as humans are parts that might make something larger than us whole or better improved, well said!
The universe is consciousness. Well its extension of that consciousness. Not religious but the bible says " we were made in gods image ". It should be " we were made in gods imagination. The universe is/was thought into existence by "god". God is source consciousness. The consciousness that thought all this into existence. We are piece of that consciousness. Along with every other thing in existence. Even inanimate objects we've made. We give then energy and thought them into existence just like creation did with us. Its all a loop🙏 I died briefly from a heroin overdoses. My world got flipped on its head. I had a " spiritual awakening " to put it simply. During that time, I think I'm going crazy. I want some type of proof that the universe is alive and I got it.. The double slit experiment. This experiment more less demonstrates that our conscious observation has an effect on reality. Thats in part because this thing is to remain the unknown. We learned something, we looked to see the thing we knew, now the universe had to expand, evolve again to be the unknown. Almost every answer we seek is in front of us all🙏 Im not claiming to have all the answers, or any. I just known this life means to me, and I spent a lot of time dissecting this experience. Love you all🙏 The universe is already conscious. Its just slowly developing a voice To tell us shut the fuck up and look at what's around us. That development is the natural evolution of this experience and I think its purpose is oush foward/slap the people who can't believe we're more than these physical bodies without god coming down and literally slapping them in the face. Thats him just starting walking down here basically to show the sceptics , yes i am alive. A lot of people need god to come down from the clouds to believe, and thats what he's doing/ thats what this is. 🙏 Thats probably the " return of Christ " the bible speaks about as well. The return of the children of god, to knowing/feeling a relationship with creation just like " the son " jesus. Thats the holy Trinity. The father " god ", the son ( or sons ) the holy teachers who came to life to teach us to know god before we could see him, and the holy spirit- the piece of god in us/ the yearning in all of us to know god, know that there's more to this life, know what comes next etc. The only thing real is consciousness everything else is an extension of that consciousness. Energy doesn't just feast to exist right? It disperses almost like it lives and life of its. God is the energy that precedes/propelled the big bang🙏
I've always thought that problems we have in our world are caused by a lack of consciousness of ourselves in relationships to the world. Like we have issues with anxiety now a days and we blame it on a lot of things in the world but what about asking if we individually aren't doing what we should be doing? It's easy to say your anxious because of the problems in the world it's harder to say your anxious because your not living your life right?
Yes, this is what Carl Jung would say more or less, anxiety is like a compass shoeing you what you might need to change. Sometimes it’s extremely overwhelming and painful so it makes sense to surpress it somewhat, but that pain is your body and mind telling you “something is wrong” and guess what? That means something IS wrong! I have a panic disorder since last year and it has taught me incredible lessons in how I should live my life. I was having panic attacks because my life was so unbelievably out if balance and growing in the wrong direction, therapy is allowing me to get in touch with what I actually need to do and that is improving my life long struggle with anxiety. Don’t ignore it, don’t bombard it with benzos and other drugs, do what you can to reach homeostasis and then search for what the right direction is.
Yes as the video says naturally things become more complex as time goes on. As do we, we seek solution through doubt and blame and other symptomatic human behaviors and like all other illnesses we treat the symptom rather than taking action towards the problem or goal. We should strive to have a hive like mentality, synchronize the individual mindset for the progression of humanity. Are rates have slowed.
@@soupypoo "We should strive to have a hive like mentality" this is absolutely the opposite of complexity and is not the future. The future is ever increasing diversity (not in the woke sense, I mean real diversity), think of the human psyche as an extension of the microbiome idea, each individual is like a microbe in a massive fractal ecosystem where each incredibly unique point of consciousness contributes to a larger system of consciousness, it's not a "hive mentality" like that one rick and morty episode. If you look back in history, humans started out in very unconscious, intuitive lifestyles where the individual means little, as humanity emerged out of nature and started to separate itself like a flower emerges from it's previously leafy stem, we move towards increased individuality and separation, which is complexity.
I'd love to be just in the room for these kind of conversations. Conversations about staring into the abyss in a sense is one I'm currently at in my stage of life. This does help listening to other hypothesis of what's the end game of it all. If only we never had the reset maybe we could of made it to a more to a sustainable way of living.
I love this clip. Feel like the guest is channeling Terrence McKenna at 5:21 when he says “cosmic attractor”.. looks we’re on course to witness the intersection of science and spirituality. Interesting how Joe played the role of skeptic whilst the scientist almost sounded religious.
Some scientist once claimed Universe works on a highly complex math equation. I myself believe in thinking in probabilities as a means of creating realities, like 'what are the odds of me thinking this and it happening just now' highly unlikely right but yes, probable. What I think is if the majority of us like me, after watching this video have made up their mind about the universe getting conscious with life, congratulations we have just created 'the' reality and the gravity of it may soon attractive space and time to bring it into our disposal!
yes but i think what hes saying is that as we and any other conscient form of life grows and expands its sort of connecting the vast universe together even if right now its at its infancy. like his internet example, first it was mail , then phones, then tv, now internet. the world is now pretty much connected or online 24/7. so before if a tragedy happened in the middle of a foreign country maybe only locals would have experienced it. but now the world as a whole is experiencing these activities as one. for example we are all sort of watching whats going with russia and ukraine as one world population getting updated by the minute. as we expand to a different part of space and that connects to this earth now there will be two planets connected as one. with possibly billions other life forms doing this the universe is connecting into one "being". idk if any of that made sense lol. also joe is showing the ego thing he was attempting to criticize because he is separating us as if WE are not part of the universe. we are as much the universe as a blackhole or super nova. so us being conscience is the universe being conscience although I don think that's what the speaker meant. i think the speaker meant what I mentioned above.
Ppl always see themselves as something that was dumped into nature rather than seeing it from the perspective that they are in fact nature itself. We are the universe, not things separate from it. You've already arrived and its impossible to separate from the existence and universal systems around you. "We are the universe becoming aware of itself". One of my favorite facts about this whole thing
Well, i can't see how pointing that can be useful. I mean, what does that change when we refer about the universe meaning just a big number of rocks and gasses and N-word holes, from referring about it as everything alive and not?
What an awesome conversation to consider our limitless potential by opening up our imaginations. It's a breath of fresh air in our doom and gloom culture
This dude is like the missing link between hard science and spirituality. He doesnt know that, but what he has observed from the physical world 100% jives with the theory of the Law of One. He's so close...The universe - reality itself is indeed conscious. Its more important than we realize. Its how we will one day traverse the vast distances of space.
I have read that whistle blowers who have worked on back-engineering UFOs, say that there are no physical controls, only a chair and a screen and that the pilot steers it telepathically. Does that make sense to you?
Very nice topic. There might be some anthropomorphism in my post but I tend to believe that the universe is an "experience" simulation. We are it and it is us and everything else. The sole purpose would be to generate any type of reaction such as life but also an infinity of others and collect the experience of it and out of that generate again and again and again, that doesn’t mean that it seeks for perfection it may just be about eternal creation over creation like a never ending discovery of effects. Now the Universe might have a beginning and an end in its very own existence but this can also be subject to creation over creation. Following those thoughts I also sometimes believe that whatever we are able to imagine also enters this process of creation meaning that as terrifying or amazing this may sounds there may be a possibility that everything we imagine somehow exists within the universe itself…
Rupert Sheldrake's work on morphic fields and morphic resonance blew my mind back in 2013 when I fordt started reading about it. The concept of Attractors and Chreodes (I think that's how it's spelled) are present in all processes and tend to repeat themselves over time.
We are quite literally made of stardust and therefore, we are the Universe experiencing itself. The Universe and consciousness eminate from divine source (namely God or Buddha etc) and have always gone hand in hand. All life has been created by design to aid the processing of ideas and development of the Universe and are fed by Universal consciousness. But we’re also here to have an amazing time 😉👍🏻
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Popa Wu said “Everything you see always has been and always will what be” I was like 15 I think and those few seconds of him explaining the universe made so much sense to me suddenly
If we are made of the same things the Universe is made of, then is it safe to say that a small part of the Universe itself is conscious? Now if that's true, then imagine a Universe in our Multiverse that has a larger percent of conscious life forms than our own. Assuming Multiverses are real, then all possibilities of a Multiverse must be true, so then there is a Universe which has become composed of so many conscious lifeforms the Universe itself could be considered sentient
Multiverse is a cheater of truth and allows wrong to be right and innocent are guilty in a universe designed in the corrupted mind of one who wishes to ignore greater rules actually destroying law and order to continue practicing all that is evil without God around to answer to. (So science thinks)
If there are multiverses and that is infinite then I would exist an infinite amount of times and have an infinite amount consciousness and because I know I don’t and I only know I exist here - I don’t believe whatever is out there is infinite.
Blessings and gratitude Joe! Thank you for this exchange. It's fundamentally important to remember all has their own views on what life is what the heck are we doing here and why why why!?. I'd like to add, all on this planet have cosmic consciousness. In this perception of though, and thought has a huge part of consciousness and that is life all life exists even your instruments you use on your set is alive. So with this thought, the universe has always been alive it is us as a people who never had the perceptual awareness due to how we have been raised over time and not nearly enough information and toxins and illegal limitations to express and meet your inner cosmic awareness.In one thought leads to many more. Keep on your journey and know your on the right path and exploring all levels of inner awareness is the quickest way to become one though this doorway...it's all beautiful and all will be reveals very soon. Consciousness is alive and our earth is alive the biosphere is alive and we all work together. each planet has this unique life force and we as humans are ending a cycle, were evolving as the earth is. We are everywhere and human life is on many many planets throughout our Solar system and universal grids. It's time we all come together as a whole to unite as one collective called Earthly humans and open space for meeting our cosmic relatives because it's happening weather we hold onto fear or not....trust in infinite creation..it surrounds us and let's see collectively were we all can rise too....a new world is coming...and infor one am extremely excited for this evolution of our beloved planet and home we call EARTH. Adonai 💙🙏🌠
We've already had sadghuru on the podcast, now I kinda want to see eckhart tolle on it, I love this consciousness talk, it's just so fascinating to hear. I don't know by but everytime I hear about Im just left feeling more interested.
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This bag of flesh is just spouting off nonsense using his little pea brain. We humans cannot understand the universe. We don't have the capacity for shit. We've got a long way to go.
I mean, also, what about our universe being Polaric? Both positive/negative and the merging, as well as the pendulum of the intensities of these ‘opposite’ energies
I’d say the fact we are consciousness created by the universe means the laws of the universe that binds us to this world flows through us and is a medium for one thing to perceive itself.
We need to separate consciousness / our energy / soul from the material reality (the Universe). Our material reality seems to be fixed / managed by sets of algorithms and coding (DNA). Somehow our conscious mind, energy, observation affects the projection of this reality. People say life feels like a video game, and they probably aren’t totally wrong about that. It’s like a simulation or holographic reality, experienced as real reality and with consequences (dying and many say there’s a review of what we did during our life here). Then we return to Source, the energy source, outside our dimensional reality. It’s a new state of being, of conscious awareness. NDE and OBE experiencers often say they felt WAY more alive outside of body than inside it. I can attest to this too. I’ve had two powerful OBEs and I’m convinced of this now.
Physical matter has never been demonstrated to behave algorithmically. Your founding assumption upon which you base your dualistic perspective is flawed. Quantum mechanics predicts (correctly) that matter is fundamentally unpredictable/deterministic. Hence reality is absolutely unknowable. Is there *really* any difference between awareness of experience and that which experiences? "What am I?", you should ask yourself. Perhaps you'll discover why God's name is I Am That I Am. I suspect you have asked the above and, from your comment, you have likely intuited why He is Named such.
Most of the questions of the universe can be answered just by looking at the dynamics on earth. Everything works in cycles, our existence is based on problem-solving and mutation and fertilization. You can scale that up and it still makes sense.
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My theory: the universe knows it's going to retract, so it created us to technologically advance enough to prevent it from ending. Just like how a living body has blood cells that repair it and fight off germs.
What about all of the black holes that are sucking in the universe? What is their purpose do you suppose? And then there's white hole theory where the matter from the black hole is thrust out into a new universe? I personally believe that we are living in a simulation and the creator of the laws that govern the universe is observing their creation through our experiences.
Some time ago I had this same idea or "ephiphany" about our role in th universe: We can methaphoricly say that sentient beings (as we), are the neurons of the universe, same as a human neuron can "hold an idea" and we sometimes strugle to make up our own mind about something that happen to us, humans communicate (like neurons) to make this "collective mind" work.
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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves Here's Tom with the weather"
In a way, we are all cells, our cells help us grow and improve and provide health and when we surround ourselves with other healthy humans (cells) it provides a healthier and greater experience overall, Last night I took only an 8th of M.M. and I felt like I was everything everywhere all at once, yes the movie lol but nonetheless I felt all of the cells throughout our earth. I realized that I have so much support from my family and friends that it makes me a better person overall.
"The Universe, " is just an atheists way of trying to comprehend our existence. Then, they inevitably come to the conclusion that, "The Universe," has a conscience, and created us!? Sounds a lot like a higher power.
If the universe has a consciousness, then it's a "higher power" the same way you're a higher power compared to the cells in your body. Also, we're emergent properties of the universe, it didn't "create" us.
Once a person understands themselves, then one finds God. Then the universe can be seen through the lens of wholeness, and the human endeavor is seen as a spiritual intelligence test.
What do you mean by "higher power"? There are many different views of what a higher power is. Someone who believes in God would view a higher power as an intelligence that created everything, that is hands-on to the point that praying to God may result in a change to a perceived coming outcome, that so loves and cares for the "lower power" beings (because if there is "higher" then there must be "lower") that there's a all-joyous afterlife waiting for those lower power beings who follow the rules of God. On the other hand, an atheist may view a "higher power" as a power greater than themselves that is not fully understood, has a certain hands-off approach to creation in terms of everything being set into motion at the start of the universe, and has no caring of lower power beings to the point that there is no afterlife to look forward to, and if lower power beings such as humans, destroy themselves and go extinct, then the higher power will simply keep going, perhaps to an inevitable end predicted by the lower power beings (you know, such as when all the stars burn out and the universe stops expanding and simply grows cold and everything ends). So, I don't think an atheist would be talking about God when referring to a universe that appears to show consciousness. Maybe what we recognize as the consciousness of the universe is no different than looking up into the sky and recognizing the shape of a bunny in the clouds. Is it really a bunny, or is it simply a cloud that, from our limited perspective, currently holds a shape that we recognize as a bunny?
@@guillaumericard1233 emergent properties of the universe sounds similar to created in God’s image. The Bible talks about humans being God’s bride and how the ‘two shall become one’. People when they die have visions of a bright light drawing them to it while incredible feelings of love, acceptance and belonging flood their senses. Like being drawn home. God calls himself ‘I Am’ in the Bible multiple times which sounds like a declaration of consciousness. There are just a lot of parallels here. Rogan talks a lot about LSD being something like a portal for our consciouses to travel and meet other beings, Angels, Demons, Aliens. My point is that the only real difference between the Universe you’re describing and the ‘Higher Power’ others are describing is maybe it’s ability or lack thereof to love. At least the ability to love mere humans. That seems like a small difference when it comes to scientific standards. If consciousness is turning out to be more than simply a chemical reaction that occurs only in the human brain then maybe love is too.
The Universe is already 'conscious,' or more specifically, it's an unbroken field of consciousness. Call it god, the source of all being, the supreme reality, the one life underlying all of creation, etc. Humans are not "one of the driving forces" in this field, but simply a part of it. It is the human ego that deludes one into believing they are separate from it, or can have control over it.
@@nighthawk0077 Not a gut feeling. Direct unitive knowledge through the practice of meditation. Millions throughout the ages have experienced it. Don't take my word for it. I wouldn't either. Anything beyond that is simply faith or belief, and I'm not interested in that. Those who achieve this unified state, the Buddha simply says, have done what has to be done. They have fulfilled the purpose of life.
@@zyrrhos Again not saying I disagree or can prove you wrong, but you must also be open to the possibility this is simply a built-in function of the human mind under certain conditions. It could in fact be that you are reaching or communicating with the source, or it could be a pre programmed illusion.
@@nighthawk0077 Programmed by whom? A noisy divided mind is incapable of seeing things as they really are. The still mind is its natural state. It is the most absolute truth I know. Everything else is illusion.
I agree. We are but a Vessel to venture out into chaos and put order to it. We do that by creating Rules. Rules of which already exist, so were more discovering these Rules. These Rules come in different degrees of 'perfection'. Some of them are bad. Some of them are good, and ultimately were trying to find the best of these Rules to bring 'Consciousness' to the Universe. I think this is a cycle that has and will always exist. Beyond the Big Bang, and the infant Big Bangs before it and will come after it. The universe finds itself and loses itself just as is life and death. There is no life without death. The universe as we know it very young. Probably closer to that in comparison to that of an 1 month infant in the womb of one of our Mothers. In our Universe, we have a very long Journey ahead of us. By the way. what I mean by Rules are the Cognitive Biases we hold as they are the only thing we know. Our Vessel is build only on our Cognitive Biases. I call them Rules because that is a good way to put it. How often you brush your teeth is one of your Rules. Everything you are is complex system of these Rules, Cognitive Biases, that make up your Ego. Your Ego is like the Captain of this Vessel, again made up out of your Cognitive Biases, or Rules. You exist within a Universe of Rules. Even Time and Space is just a Rule. But why all this? Well I think Bobby Azarian in this video explains it quite well. We are on a Journey. We are building something. Were growing and expanding. Were turning Chaos into Order. However, We as in You and Me, are one and the same. Different Vessels, but from the same Source. We need to do different things, and collaborate to construct our Universe. We need our Biases to do this much like we need different sets of Electrons to create different kinds of Matter that have different kinds of properties to create in of itself a mixed bag of Chaos to create an environment to exist within. After all, to exist is Why we exist. Otherwise we don't. There is not Nothing. There is Something. And it has to Change. Change is the Forever Constant. This Chaos in of itself is a form of Pain. The Rules we discover and use are our tools to build our Vessel in such a way to reduce Pain. Pain is destruction. Pain is Death. Pain is the means to not exist. Love as an opposite is what brings everything together. Love is a Rule. Love is vague with many different subsets of meanings, but ultimately its the glue that holds the entirety of Consciousness together. Our simple minded experience of Love is very primitive if you will. We are aware of it in the way that it motivates us. But this Force is bigger then you and I, and perhaps ultimately, the End of our Universe, everything will be Love. And this will also consequently be the end of the Universe, as the entirety of it comes back together to one single finite point, it will create a new Big Bang. And the whole process starts all over again. For all of infinity. Life and Death. Chaos into Order. Forever as its always been and will always be. So you need to treat your Vessel right. Find the right set of Rules, Congestive Biases, and contribute to this Journey that We the Universe are on. Don't fret about the significance of your contribution, as so one single life contributes will be single handily be insignificant in the greater scheme of things. You as a Vessel is just a part of this collective Life Energy that we are all one and the same of. You and I are one and the same as the Grass. The Grass is a Vessel. It follows its rules. It contributes to this Journey too. And I'm sure you'd agree as important as the Grass is, its still just a small spec in its contribution to the Universe developing itself. The Meaning of Life can be summed up in one simple word: Procreation. Life consumes Life to exist. Just like the grass has to regrow every season, so to do all forms of life needed to do the same thing. And as the Rules become more collectively understood, as things Change, so too will be how Life appears will Change. Evolution. Extinction. Its all part of a changing system. A system built of the most recent Cognitive Biases available. So Procreate. Its part of the Journey. Make your Vessel with the best set of Rules you can come to. You do this by discovering other peoples Rules, and if it better then the ones you have, you change it. Be influenced by other people for the better, as these very people are one and the same. We are all the same Life Energy. Together, lets bring Order to Chaos. Convert Pain into Love. And lets Transform the Universe as a whole into one Being. So we can die and do it all over again.
Why do i get panic thinking about death and whats gonna happen when we die i get scared of not being alive anymore and not existing like my mind cant understand whats going to happen
I did 5G of mushrooms blindfolded, the universe told me our purpose was creation. That our ideas take on a life force of their own and our purpose was to bring thoughts into fruition
It seems irrational to admit that the universe seems to have a goal using only physics to explain it. The chances of this type of complexity happening by accident is infinity to 1. God and science can both exist
Right, who says they can't. As a Muslim I've never had this problem with religion and science. Science is a just tool thats tells us about the natural world but its limited in it's scope, it can only go so far
The idea that something came nothing, or that consciousness randomly developed out of particles-atoms-amino acids.. is completely ridiculous and unscientific. Thinking it is all coincidence is a sign of an egotistical and polluted mind. God exists.
@@ApolloDeRothschild as far as what actually exists in the natural world. The moment you start making up things about a supernatural world outside of this one you're no longer in the realm of science, likely not even in the realm of reality..
@@Thezuule1 the scientific method involves the questioning of our perception of reality and then testing the hypothesis. So far science has conceeded the the concept of a higher consciousness is not fantasy and they are proving it using the laws of the universe. Now the question comes back to who or what wrote the laws of the universe, and mathematically speaking, the chances of it being random sounds more like a fantasy than there being a designer
@@camjoseph9241 💯 and firas zihabi has this great quote about randomness he says there's no such things as randomness its just an expression for our ignorance cause a being that knows everything to it nothing is random referring to Allah(the diety)
Best person I saw answer this was tom campbell, a main source of consciousness broke many parts of itself away to have some interaction that needed to learn, the physical realm was next for these individual units of consciousness to evolve.
One of my friends who isnt fond of philosophical questions gets very annoyed at the suggestion that, as conscious entities ourselves, and being of the universe, that we are the universe's consciousness. His reasoning is that it isnt pragmatic information, and there is no way to get a definitive answer outside of our own definitions of words. Personally, questions and ideas like this are extremely fun to think about and consider. Its a creative intellectual lens that puts a lot of life into perspective. Not to say pragmatic science is not creative or intellectual mind you.
I would ask your friend, what exactly would the universe gaining consciousness look like, if not humans? From a perspective outside of our universe, a portion of molecules and protons and electrons came together to record, measure, and chronicle the rest of them. Why is this practical information? Our drive to understand the world around us is directly linked to advances in technology. Although this is a baseless anthropomorphization of the universe, Its eerie to me that the universe seems to incentivize and 'want' us to understand it.
I feel like at a certai point in the Universes history, there will be a point where humans and other life forms can’t expand out and rather look at converting into a digital world where you can upload your consciousness essentially creating a mini universe, possibly creating a chain of multi dimensional worlds and universe’s essentially
The fact that we are creations of the universe and that we are aware of its existence, would suggest it already has consciousness....
Exactly
It’s called God
Us being aware that we exist gives it consciousness
I applaud you Sir.
Yes, I don't think we emerged from "inanimate matter," despite that being the way it appears.
I always thought about how planets are so big that when standing on one, you can't even tell that it's round. I think this can be applied to the universe. It's so big, and we are so small, it's impossible to see what it is. Just like a cell on a human would have no clue what a human looks like if it could see.
I always thought the universe was possibly sentient. Planets are basically little cells compared to the entirety of it.
Very good
Yup,thought so too.
It’s nearly mushroom season where I am🕺
Same
I've often thought something very similar.
Yeah, that falls into a long held idea in Tao Buddhism. The consciousness we have is a single thing, not exclusive to any one being. So your conscious experience, your friends, strangers, animals, etc. Across all beings, across the entire universe are all one consciousness that belongs to the universe. Alan Watts explains this for western minds very precisely in his lectures. Our conscious experience is just the universe wanting to look itself in the mirror.
You would love the documentary Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. It uses those principles. Dr. Steven Greer is very similar to Alan Watts.
Yesssssss.. the universe wants to experience its infiniteness and the only way is to make individual, sentient beings!!!
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Our conscious experience is a bulletin board for the limbic system to prioritize needs better.
It’s very surreal yet comforting at the same time more & more people from all walks of life are not only having these types of conversations but becoming less surprised or shocked by theories like this. Almost normalized.
We are becoming more conscious
Christianity doesn’t want this
@@bluem30man81 christianity abhors competition, it upsets their lies they peddle
We are in the beginning stages of the biggest collective awakening in the history of mankind
I was born and raised in Islamic family. In 5 years of time, I, along with my family have transitioned from super conservatism to more conciseness about the reality. I think internet and traveling has a lot of impact on this. This is my experience.
And I mean the educational internet, non of that tik-tok shit.
Ive missed this side of JRE, the edge-of-knowledge conversations are what brought me in to begin with
We need them
Look up *Elon Musk meets Post Malone*
It's so funny!! 😂😆
@@benjackson9299 no
there’s only so many qualified people he can have those conversations with
Same here my man
Thank god Joe is bringing topics like these to the masses. It’s remarkable how much science and society as a whole ignores/forgets about arguably one of the most important questions of all time
How do i give 2 thumbs up?
I have two thumbs, this is unrealistic. I demand TH-cam roleplay
Society as a whole is terrified of that answer and that's why the general public will never know exactly WTF THIS IS.
He misses so many points, though. Many many advances throughout history came from the military than he mentions Obama who expanded drone strikes and through countries like Syria, Lybia and Tunesia into anarchy.
Check out “Iain mcgilchrist, matter and consciousness”
@@SF-eo6xf he is a classic ‘book smarts’ guy. A drone who has memorised a lot of books but can’t think too critically, hence the Obama nonsense.
Terence Mckenna talked about this a lot with his notion of the "transcendental object at the end of time", or "the great attractor". He often spoke about us as some kind of catalyst that nature uses as a strategy to achieve certain goals.
I love Mckenna but I think this makes us sound more special than we are.
@@waseem7195 yea sometimes I feel you and think such things as well… neither of us can know for sure. But if you remove that specialness you end up with a very sad existence. Whether or not it’s true, I personally feel that keeping the “specialness” is a much healthier state of being than consistently trying to remove it or “prove” it isn’t so. Also I can’t help but ask if you’ve ever experienced DMT or psilocybin? Or even LSD? I used to be that same kind of “skeptic atheist” when I was in high school haha (:
I’ve never met someone else in real life that knew who Terrence was. I’ve been onto him before I graduated high school in 2014. Introducing him to others who can comprehend such things is such a great thing to do. He was an angel.
@@waseem7195 really? I think it made us lesser than we think we are. We’re not here for ourselves. If anything for a bigger self- a bigger picture. But I don’t know what I believe- my thoughts and ideas are formulating and changing everyday. Every minute. I at one time thought we were just done when we’re done and made myself okay with it bc I don’t want to not be okay. But now my mind is so wide open that I don’t know what to believe bc in fact possibles are infinite- which is a thought I can’t even grasp in itself. Quantum physics right
@@waseem7195 Give your life to the Emperor. Find purity and perfection in the human form. Hate the alien, despise the mutant, purge the heretic. No sacrifice too great, no treachery too small.
Developing? Funny how we see ourselves as separate from “the universe”
very true, we literally are the universe
The title itself made me blink in confusion. Like, what are they on about here.
EXACTLY. We literally ARE a part of the universe. It's hard to deprogram people from this concept that they are this separate entity and the rest of the universe revolves around them, I guess.
We are made from stardust
@@TheIncredibleStories Of course we are part of the Universe, but rn we are definitely living separately from other Consciousness life forms, if they exist
Love the idea of chaos being an outward expression of a system demanding change. That is a fantastic way to think about and approach the “problems” in every aspect of our world. Brilliant.
😆Look up *Elon Musk meets Post Malone*
It's so funny!! 😂
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It’s finally here
So choas is an outward expression of a system demand change, so when someone rapes a baby kills people that is the universe wanting change.
the way this guy talks, he's a bullshitter
but what perception of chaos?
To me the animated is the chaos and the inanimate is order. If the universe could observe itself, would it wonder what the hell is up with all this stuff going on in these random specks all over me.
“You are not in the universe, you are the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” - Eckhart Tolle
That’s a tough ass quote
It's pretty true though.
Alan Watts as well
Find someone else who says it better, Eckhart Tolle evolved from the mad magazine mascot Alfred E Newman and speaks as if his mind is barely moving, you can 2x his videos and still fall 😴
@Unfettered One Yes, on lesser and great scales.
I have seen the argument that we are the mental construct of the Universe, so a rippling out of the universe, each a limited view point which enriches the whole viewpoint. Sort of like showing your work in a complex math problem. Each step provides value almost apart from just getting the answer. The why, to the how to the what. Imagine a being that states "I am" and then tried to figure out what it can be. Imagine this as the universe. It splits itself until it can see itself from every possible viewpoint, focussing on every degree within the whole of anything and everything. Example on that. Light and dark or hot and cold are part of the same thing, difference is by degrees. Dark is absence of light, cold absence of heat. We see them as separate, and infinity so, because with our limited minds we can't process it as a whole mentally. But, if you categorize every viewpoint in a "database" then it serves a purpose when put together, quite literally putting infinity together piece by piece. I have seen it suggested that if we are the consciousness of the universe, we are just learning, and we are just learning about what has already happened. Like time is a concept, a focus on a degree rather than the whole. Time is thought to be a man made concept, but if we are potentially the universe's mind, then it would suggest that time is a tool to understand itself. Universe feels and makes things happen. We think and add meaning and value to those feelings. This would also suggest that there is no good or bad. So the "I am" simply "is" rather than "is something specific." The universe is everything, and we are only separate in a grand type of thought experiment that is being done to gain true meaning in "self." Watch Jim Carey's interviews or people who have compiled his stuff to claim he is not "crazy" but waking up to "reality". Now, if Jim is not crazy, and people are waking up to this, if it be true, then we would only be waking up to half truths, because we cannot fathom or grasp a whole truth which encompasses infinity. But why wake at all? Why be concious of the potential fact that we're just a "field of energy dancing for itself?" As Jim explains? Well, I think that if every person is a particle within a multidimensional mental abstraction, then some particles need to know what it is like to know, and some need to know what it is like to "finish" their part. A particle of god, or the universe, is playing out it's role exactly as it should and gets to. I believe the ones that come to such a knowledge are close to finishing their part of the thought experiment. Once finished it returns to the void or the source of everything and becomes like the budist joke "one with everything" having realized it was never separate at all. Meanwhile the rest of us are still playing things out wondering if we are in a Shakespeare comedy or tragedy day to day. I jest a little, however, I actually think these ideas have merit and personally believe it works quite similarly to how I've explained, but on a much more grand and incomprehensible (to a human) way. Certainly fun to think about and makes up for "why bad things happen to good people." Answer = infinity. In infinity everything happens. Like that new movie Anything Everywhere All At Once. Nothing matters in this idea, and at the exact same time everything matters because nothing and something are the same thing diferences are only by degrees. This means a multiverse is real, other lives are real, and quite literally anything you can think of is real somewhere somehow. We just happen to live here and now, and it works within the rules of this particular reality.
amazingly put and you articulated my position entirely. Much love and celebration from Melody in Seattle! Make the self actualization happen- for yourself, others, the world, and the gratitude that comes with that knowledge by the universe itself
Magnificent
Shut up
@@peaceofmind1602 not a very peaceful mind there, eh, Peaceofmind. :p
Your theory is really similar to Hegel’s ideas! Check out his ideas of the Absolute
It's wild how many people in these comments, and on this show, need to explore Hinduism. The entire backbone of Hinduism is the idea of Brahman, that the Universe is the supreme consciousness. -source, I'm Hindu
Holy shit, it's Mac Lethal. My brother
big fan of your rap bro
Consciousness is the primary reality.
Explored Hinduism, left with cow piss and thousand elephant Gods
This guy was talking about everything and nothing at the same time. That's a talent.
cocaine is a hell of a drug
He's absolutely clueless 😂😂
He's an expert at making sense, out of nonsense...I bet he can turn chikin shit, into chikin salad...
Um ya maybe like ummmmmm ya like . You go these tractors that the living system is ummm ya like
He's definitely not the correct guest to have on here to talk about consciousness he knows nothing about it
I love this conversation. Joe is entertaining some serious philosophical talk. Refreshing to see and not difficult to see there is an audience that is waaaay ready to expand their consciousness.
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it's why i started watching years ago, and i think JRE might have ended but it really was a wild experience
@@yunnowho3225 Even though I could not come up with ONE logical and or ethical and or moral reason to force innocent beings into this hell hole without their consent/permission and I also understand that the ONLY things I can guarantee for my future kids is unimaginable suffering and death, I AM STILL ready to FORCE innocent beings into this hell hole without their consent/permission because I am: selfish, poor, lonely, shallow, stupid, bored and megalomaniac with hero complex and virtue signalling syndrome.
I am going to be absolutely so happy and proud and joyful when my kids will become future: pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex’ life long clients/victims, prison/military industrial complex clients/victims, fascists, satanists, totalitarian single digit IQ nobodies, communists, marxists, bolsheviks, leninists, SJWs, BLMs, socialists, mercenaries, religious freaks wearing funny clothing and head coverings spreading ‘peace’, prostitutes/escorts/sugar babies, sugar daddies/sugar mamas, female rapists, pimps, welfare/benefit queens/kings, cartel members, starving people, broke(n)/bankrupt people from all points of views, hitmen/hitwomen/assassins, murderers, witches/warlocks who curse others, murderers wearing uniforms-badges/white coats-stethoscopes/suits-ties, abused people, abusers/users, drunkards, drug addicts, drug dealers, alcoholics, homeless, gang/mafia members, suicide victims, bullies, bullied people, torturers, tortured people, mentally and physically handicapped people, orphans, victims of organ harvesting and human trafficking, single mother victims, dead soldiers, racist group gang members, prostitutes, residents of hell, debt slaves, suckers to participate in the rat race that enables the world wide criminal syndicate(royalty, bankers etc.) to stay rich and become richer...
Exactly. Well said
@@yunnowho3225 JRE didn't end
Alan Watts nailed it. We are the universe observing itself. Apertures of light. Also the famous Freeman Dyson said and I will paste it here. This is what he is getting at. “It is remarkable that mind enters into our awareness of nature on two separate levels. At the highest level, the level of human consciousness, our minds are somehow directly aware of the complicated flow of electrical and chemical patterns in our brains. At the lowest level, the level of single atoms and electrons, the mind of an observer is again involved in the description of events. Between lies the level of molecular biology, where mechanical models are adequate and mind appears to be irrelevant. But I, as a physicist, cannot help suspecting that there is a logical connection between the two ways in which mind appears in my universe. I cannot help thinking that our awareness of our own brains has something to do with the process which we call "observation" in atomic physics. That is to say, I think our consciousness is not just a passive epiphenomenon carried along by the chemical events in our brains, but is an active agent forcing the molecular complexes to make choices between one quantum state and another. In other words, mind is already inherent in every electron, and the processes of human consciousness differ only in degree but not in kind from the processes of choice between quantum states which we call "chance" when they are made by electrons.”
thank you for taking the time to write this
I love that sentiment, I always used to say that the universe is the closest thing to a God that exists and is known and that God is in every single one of us as we are the universe's way of observing itself. The universe gives us meaning and in turn we give the universe meaning.
I am not a theist in any way shape or form but it's nice to have something to believe in :)
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Wow. You just solved the mystery of being 🤔😑
0 evidence supporting any of this
When I was a kid in school I always was shocked of images showing the universe as this series of objects rotating and moving through space looked so similar to designs of a living organisms brain with connections and structure looking similar. Made me wonder if we are just very small organisms living inside something much larger then the universe. And that heat death of the universe is inevitable because the organism we are inside eventually has to die.
That's some fractal "Horton hears a who" type shit. I dig it.
The universe looks like a neuron or a brain cell
So how do they reconcile complexity with entropy ? Evolution whether driven by purpose or not is clearly not following entropy... nor is an ever complexifying cosmos, rhe two are irreconcilable...Even if you say that somehow entropy causes complexity through chaos, ill point out that its still no longer entropy if novelty contunies to occur...
This is what I believe we are an atom that is becoming self aware
Terrence McKenna was speaking about a great cosmic attractor several decades ago. Crazy to see scientists coming to this way of thought now
What does that mean? Cosmic attractor
If you look up Terence McKenna’s Wikipedia page, there is a word for him: “Mystic.” I agree with this adjective.
Terence was talking about the Eschaton, which is a biblical idea that goes back thousands of years.
Well as science advances it's heavily pointing towards intelligent design and not naturalism. We have the wholly Christian concept of the big bang being solidified in 2009. The discovery of DNA, all life based on an immaterial concept information. We have the overwhelming evidence of fine tuning in the universe. The discovery the whole universe and it's 13.8 billions years required just so one earth and humanity can exist in the universe, there is no waste it was all needed and we are largely the earliest life can exist in the universe, the universe is actually very young. And other amazing discoveries such as the quantum holography of genetics and so on and so on. The universe is inherently coherent, this requires a mind behind it, God.
The universe has been there for a long time. It's not waking up. Humanity is waking up.
The universe has been awaken for…hundreds of millions of millennia. We are a part of the awakened thing, but we are not awakened. We begin awakening when we realize this and start towards enlightenment. Enlightment isn’t the goal, enlightenment is like slapping a turbo, a new radiator, a new intake, and an intercooler to upgrade but not fundamentally change YOU. Just how you operate, here and there
Yes humans are waking up and recognising their own behaviour. There are 700,000 people on Reddit raised by a narcissistic parent support where they recognise that family scapegoat one child. Recognising that pattern seems to be an ethical shit shift and shift in human behaviour to recognise Family scapegoating. To become conscious they need to recognise the unconscious behaviour in family groups and individuals. To recognise Family scapegoating seems to be the most simple but complex thing to do.
Er, Humans are parts of the Universe. We are not separate from it, we are literally embedded within it. We are entities permissible by the laws of physics, and every atom that makes up a Human is a atom of the Universe. Therefore if humans are conscience, then the Universe is implicitly conscience also.
There is no separating Humans from the Universe, they are one in the same.
All of a sudden Humanity got too woke
It better go back to sleep
@@BinaryReader Humans and other conscious animals are the only known conscious entities in the universe. Planets and galaxies are not conscious.
For me the universe is the original conscious and split it’s self up into separate conscious to converse/debate/hurt/love with itself. To experience all things first hand as it’s better than learning through a 3rd party. Which is why we forget our past lives when we’re born and pass our trauma/mistakes onto our children so each child has the best chance to make a mistake and learn from it.
You just described most Eastern religions. Mainly Hinduism and Buddhism.
you sound ridiculous
consciousness = “we are one person just split apart”
Seems like the universe is just a useful model to contextualize our perceptual experiences, but its not reality. Atoms, molecules, neurons and such are reconstructions of what is actually there according to our model of a space-time universe, but its just a useful mode that got us along through natural selection. It completely leaves out anything fundamental because what is fundamental is not useful, simplified models of fundamental reality optimize for information that is useful to increase our fitness, to ensure that this biological structure will survive and pass on its genes, not so that we consciously perceive this all accurately.
You are so confused
It's insane to see us, conscious beings, (the universe and existence personified, literally) ask ourselves if we are conscious while exercising consciousness.
That Duality vs oneness my friend ,
What if we are the individual cells of the universal mind? What if the universe is already conscious and we are a product of that?. Maybe the universe is one big brain that were trapped in.
@@Plslevmelone if that is true, what it make a difference? nah probably not.
Joe seriously needs to have *Bernardo Kastrup* on his podcast. Kastrup's take on consciousness is what we all need. Kastrup basically argues that in the same way your brain is what your consciousness looks like, the inanimate universe as a whole is the 2nd person perspective of consciousness.
Yes, we need Bernardo on JRE or Lex Fridman podcast.
What a load of bullshit. You people speak in such complicated and big words that delude stupid people that it is possible to have conscience and intelligence emerge in a world with no creator behind it. No matter how much you complicate or try to spin it, even an idiot knows that this is lunacy. You cannot have a world filled with intelligent sentient conscious beings without a creator God behind this. Stop running after your worldly hedonistic desires and submit to the One Almighty Creator God, who was not born and does not give birth.
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Pseudo science, science is naturally pseudo, it’s hear say through thought. Perception, this is more so a philosophy than anything. Everything has a cosmic consciousness when it’s apart of life. Atoms to the giants who roamed earth millions of years ago. See how that sounds? We don’t know anything beyond ourselves and what we think is real, true or false. It all falls back on what we think. It is nothing special, If we get a chance to share ideas with other species (aliens). In that time we’ll have a better grasp on life, and consciousness. But overall I think the universe has life, otherwise it wouldn’t have created it. Is it per say conscious? Idk, ask how they feel, lol. Almost like talking to god, just not all that there. We are lucky our universe even made us to perceive these moments.
You guys should check out the *Theories Of Everything* podcast with Curt J. THAT is the place for deep discussions about consciousness done in a fantastic format with the kind of follow-on questions you'd hope for. Highly recommended over JRE for these deeper ponderings.
One thing I tend to think about regarding this discussion is Carl Jung’s idea of “individuation.” Basically, individuation is the self achieving wholeness as a result of marrying opposite things together (the conscious and unconscious mind for example).
What if the emergence and development of life is the universe’s attempt at seeking individuation?
There is about 700,000 individuals on Reddit her waking up to being raised by narcissistic personality disorder parent and experiencing family scapegoating patterns of abuse. I’m not sure what conscious that is waking up but it’s waking up some and recognise pattern in humans. Which suggests humans have been largely unconscious of their own behaviour. Redditt technology narcissistic abuse something is waking humans up to recognise patterns in behaviour
The so-called "natural laws" of the universe, the course of nature, its tendency to turn entropy into order, those are CLEAR indications of the unconscious part of the universe manifesting itself. The universe isn't traditionally conscious because it doesn't have cognition, it doesn't think, but that doesn't mean it isn't alive. The collective psyche of life forms the conscious part of the universe.
Your comment is more interesting and thought provoking than this dude rambling.
Well said
I fucking love this.
The universe has been conscious, we're simply becoming more aware as we develop our piece of consciousness.
To answer the question of what the purpose is of expanding consciousness, one must understand what’s beyond the universe.
But I think that, in and of itself, just points to the reason- it expands *because* there is something beyond us, and the boundaries of what we know exists or could exist. Maybe beyond what is even tangible.
We have a tendency to focus on the physical while being conscious. Most of what we analyse and debate on is somewhat verifiable through “physics” bound to the physicality. We know consciousness is there as we experience it, but we yet have to understand and maybe accept that it could be part of everything else.
The problem with that is we all experience consciousness differently. And it's no quantifiable it can't be measured so modern science turns there noses at it. I'm sure as we progress as a society both technologically and spiritually consciousness will be given a second chance. Just look at all the study they are doing with psychedelics
@@douggaudiosi14 there is research being done on the nature of conscious everyday. Progress is definitely being made.
The amount of content that is provided by joe is amazing, he has had thousands of different topics and people with different content from all around the world. Thanks Joe for providing me with endless entertainment.
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I think the universe was always conscious , it's people who are becoming conscious.
Is the whole episode/interview on TH-cam? I would really love to hear it! This is so fascinating
I love how the conscious part of the universe wonders if the universe is conscious 😂
Lol ikr, it's like if my eyeballs could be like "I wonder if my person could see..."
The guy is bs
perfect
Is exactly what I was thinking
Lmaoo teasing ourselves with amnesia
If people are thinking we're conscious and the universe is "catching up" then you're missing the point. Maybe we'll become TRULY conscious once we catch up to the universe.
I think you may be onto something. I think the same.
We are playing the role, but I agree we are products of the universe, so as an extension of the universe we are catching up by finding out as gradually as we humans can might do
We will never catch up with the universe. Our entire existence of humanity/earth is not even a blink of an eye. We are of no consequence.
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@@OnPointFirearms we are definitely of consequence. Mountains are large because they don’t scorn the merest handful of dirt, and the oceans large because they accept the contributions of tiny streams.
The clip got me thinking and I got a few questions to ask. Please give me some insight.
1. Who's to say that the universe isn't a living organism? It's its own self contained ecosystem. That seems to evolve.
2. Why aren't we the only living thing in the universe? Without the invention of time travel, wormholes, or any time and space warping technology. With distance in mind wouldn't another civilization already be extinct? More like we all just living in a place in time.
3. Who's to say that conscious escapes the universe in the 1st place? Maybe that's also self contained as well as everything else.
The "goal" of Universe / Creation / Source - is to know itself through experiencing every possible scenario. It is achieved by division to individual consciousness called Souls and giving them free will to create their experiences on their own terms.
Bingo
Simple truths
Sure one part of it
Wrong read the Bible
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I’ve thought about this many times. That the universe could be a living organism. It intrigues me how much solar systems are like atoms. With a nucleus (sun) at the centre with electrons (planets) orbiting that nucleus and most of the atom is made up of empty space. Same as a solar system. What if the solar systems are atoms and we are part of the make up of atoms in a living organism. I need to lie down just thinking about it lol
But thats not at all how atoms are... the planetary model is a vastly oversimplified model and is not at all how an actual atom is composed.
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@@Ddub1083 exactly yeah there is another model called string theory (don't know if it is related to the main one people think about) where they are modelled as strings with various amounts of notches in it like a guitar.
the basics of atoms which you learn is school is not correct it's just easier to explain to a 12y.o. child especially when the information is likey to be never used.
@@chrisatcgh string theory is the theory that different types of matter are composed of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. not sure what notches you mean.
This was probably my favorite jre yet. This dude was so interesting, I could’ve listened for hours more.
Thank you for understanding and explaining the truth of this reality word by word.
A great philosopher once said we were made by the universe so that it can see itself through our eyes.
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That's how it works :)
The Bible thousands of years ago said man was made in Gods image
it's called God
Universe sounds like a bit of a narcissist lol
The universe gave us our consciousness… The universe is far beyond complex than we could even imagine.
It's called God
I wondering, is consciousness and soul the same if so, could it be animism since all we know of in existence is matter and where could it be at that experience the life?
It just created itself. From death came life. Yeah, that makes sense.
The LORD DID
The universe didn’t give us consciousness, through time and randomness, evolution crated life. Life wasn’t given, it was created randomly. Btw the universe isn’t a thing, it’s just a name for the group of all things.
Always awesome content!! Would absolutely love to see you interview Gregg Braden, Bruce Lipton, and/or Joe Dispenza!!!
Such a great interview, and so many one liners ‘When I say design, I don’t mean something mystical, I mean physics’ 🤣
I love the idea of tiny little miniscule parts of the universe known as humans consciously asking if the universe is conscious.
lol
Except, out of all the life that we know of here on Earth, Humans are the only ones that we know of that have made it out into space, under our own volition... So, not very "tiny", in that sense. And as far as physical size, well Hell, there is a LOT smaller than us.
@@StanHowse baby steps into space we have a long way to go
@@StanHowse so if a quantum particle to a human is as small as a human brain to the Universe, isn't the answer quite obvious? We looks at the Universe and the Universe does look back at us!
right like quantum physics lol
I'll say it again. I think the natural human response, without outside influence, to realizing our own existence would be "I'm here, there must be something else out there" rather than "I'm here, there's no way there other life elsewhere"
Humans are too complex, I think life is a complete miracle and that people who assume there has to be life out there because we are here are ignorant to how special we really are.
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Yup people has gotten too nihilistic since the 21st century, but that's quite the result of shitty governance & greed from the elites.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 I don't disagree that our concious life is a miracle but everything in our living world is immensely complex... I think part of the challenge of our evolution or ascension is figuring out whether we are more special than other lifeforms, or if we are simply one of many.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 The fact that we are here, regardless of any subjective assessment you have regarding our "complexity", is itself proof that we live within a universe and under a set of natural laws that provide for our emergence and existence. IF those laws are in fact universal (as they appear to be) then there is no reason to assert there is something "special" about our particular existence. True, we may well find that the emergence of the particular configuration of matter that constitutes life might be vanishingly rare (something we've yet to determine) but at present there's no reason to assert miracles are required when the principles that appear to govern the totality of our universe are sufficient.
The single mind connected by the internet really stood out to me as someone who works in IT. We have neurons in our brains connected by pathways. What if we are the human equivalent of that same system on a much larger scale and the internet is that pathway for us. We can then scale it up even more and think of planets as neurons connected within the galaxy using a system we are yet to understand
Yes. Exactly
Thinking of synchronicity and the way I see Angel numbers, the universe is always a million steps ahead. And how we can manifest things to existence, we could all be the universes shared consciousness like a network
I think the universe is already conscious, in it's own way. And that we are the natural by-product. Operating on an infinitely smaller scale, so that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal. There is probably other life out there that we cannot comprehend, but which itself is part of the bigger picture.
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You are quite right. All the best
“So that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal” - we as humans are parts that might make something larger than us whole or better improved, well said!
Macrocosm to Microcosm, and vice versa.
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The universe is consciousness. Well its extension of that consciousness. Not religious but the bible says " we were made in gods image ". It should be " we were made in gods imagination. The universe is/was thought into existence by "god". God is source consciousness. The consciousness that thought all this into existence. We are piece of that consciousness. Along with every other thing in existence. Even inanimate objects we've made. We give then energy and thought them into existence just like creation did with us. Its all a loop🙏
I died briefly from a heroin overdoses. My world got flipped on its head. I had a " spiritual awakening " to put it simply. During that time, I think I'm going crazy. I want some type of proof that the universe is alive and I got it.. The double slit experiment. This experiment more less demonstrates that our conscious observation has an effect on reality. Thats in part because this thing is to remain the unknown. We learned something, we looked to see the thing we knew, now the universe had to expand, evolve again to be the unknown. Almost every answer we seek is in front of us all🙏 Im not claiming to have all the answers, or any. I just known this life means to me, and I spent a lot of time dissecting this experience. Love you all🙏 The universe is already conscious. Its just slowly developing a voice To tell us shut the fuck up and look at what's around us. That development is the natural evolution of this experience and I think its purpose is oush foward/slap the people who can't believe we're more than these physical bodies without god coming down and literally slapping them in the face. Thats him just starting walking down here basically to show the sceptics , yes i am alive. A lot of people need god to come down from the clouds to believe, and thats what he's doing/ thats what this is. 🙏 Thats probably the " return of Christ " the bible speaks about as well. The return of the children of god, to knowing/feeling a relationship with creation just like " the son " jesus. Thats the holy Trinity. The father " god ", the son ( or sons ) the holy teachers who came to life to teach us to know god before we could see him, and the holy spirit- the piece of god in us/ the yearning in all of us to know god, know that there's more to this life, know what comes next etc. The only thing real is consciousness everything else is an extension of that consciousness. Energy doesn't just feast to exist right? It disperses almost like it lives and life of its. God is the energy that precedes/propelled the big bang🙏
I've always thought that problems we have in our world are caused by a lack of consciousness of ourselves in relationships to the world. Like we have issues with anxiety now a days and we blame it on a lot of things in the world but what about asking if we individually aren't doing what we should be doing? It's easy to say your anxious because of the problems in the world it's harder to say your anxious because your not living your life right?
Indeed
Thats a really brilliant point.
Yes, this is what Carl Jung would say more or less, anxiety is like a compass shoeing you what you might need to change. Sometimes it’s extremely overwhelming and painful so it makes sense to surpress it somewhat, but that pain is your body and mind telling you “something is wrong” and guess what? That means something IS wrong! I have a panic disorder since last year and it has taught me incredible lessons in how I should live my life. I was having panic attacks because my life was so unbelievably out if balance and growing in the wrong direction, therapy is allowing me to get in touch with what I actually need to do and that is improving my life long struggle with anxiety. Don’t ignore it, don’t bombard it with benzos and other drugs, do what you can to reach homeostasis and then search for what the right direction is.
Yes as the video says naturally things become more complex as time goes on. As do we, we seek solution through doubt and blame and other symptomatic human behaviors and like all other illnesses we treat the symptom rather than taking action towards the problem or goal. We should strive to have a hive like mentality, synchronize the individual mindset for the progression of humanity. Are rates have slowed.
@@soupypoo "We should strive to have a hive like mentality" this is absolutely the opposite of complexity and is not the future. The future is ever increasing diversity (not in the woke sense, I mean real diversity), think of the human psyche as an extension of the microbiome idea, each individual is like a microbe in a massive fractal ecosystem where each incredibly unique point of consciousness contributes to a larger system of consciousness, it's not a "hive mentality" like that one rick and morty episode. If you look back in history, humans started out in very unconscious, intuitive lifestyles where the individual means little, as humanity emerged out of nature and started to separate itself like a flower emerges from it's previously leafy stem, we move towards increased individuality and separation, which is complexity.
I really love these conversations. Ty, Joe.
same
I'd love to be just in the room for these kind of conversations. Conversations about staring into the abyss in a sense is one I'm currently at in my stage of life. This does help listening to other hypothesis of what's the end game of it all. If only we never had the reset maybe we could of made it to a more to a sustainable way of living.
Yes sir! Two great podcasts in a row! Love these topics.
I love this clip. Feel like the guest is channeling Terrence McKenna at 5:21 when he says “cosmic attractor”.. looks we’re on course to witness the intersection of science and spirituality. Interesting how Joe played the role of skeptic whilst the scientist almost sounded religious.
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You're making it up because it's just words
are you real?
Some scientist once claimed Universe works on a highly complex math equation. I myself believe in thinking in probabilities as a means of creating realities, like 'what are the odds of me thinking this and it happening just now' highly unlikely right but yes, probable.
What I think is if the majority of us like me, after watching this video have made up their mind about the universe getting conscious with life, congratulations we have just created 'the' reality and the gravity of it may soon attractive space and time to bring it into our disposal!
Aren’t we the universe taking a physical form already? I feel like the universe created us to experience every aspect of itself and life.
yes but i think what hes saying is that as we and any other conscient form of life grows and expands its sort of connecting the vast universe together even if right now its at its infancy. like his internet example, first it was mail , then phones, then tv, now internet. the world is now pretty much connected or online 24/7. so before if a tragedy happened in the middle of a foreign country maybe only locals would have experienced it. but now the world as a whole is experiencing these activities as one. for example we are all sort of watching whats going with russia and ukraine as one world population getting updated by the minute.
as we expand to a different part of space and that connects to this earth now there will be two planets connected as one.
with possibly billions other life forms doing this the universe is connecting into one "being". idk if any of that made sense lol.
also joe is showing the ego thing he was attempting to criticize because he is separating us as if WE are not part of the universe. we are as much the universe as a blackhole or super nova. so us being conscience is the universe being conscience although I don think that's what the speaker meant. i think the speaker meant what I mentioned above.
Ppl always see themselves as something that was dumped into nature rather than seeing it from the perspective that they are in fact nature itself. We are the universe, not things separate from it. You've already arrived and its impossible to separate from the existence and universal systems around you. "We are the universe becoming aware of itself". One of my favorite facts about this whole thing
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Well, i can't see how pointing that can be useful. I mean, what does that change when we refer about the universe meaning just a big number of rocks and gasses and N-word holes, from referring about it as everything alive and not?
Haven't listened to this yet but hasn't the universe already become conscious because we are the universe conscious of its self
bro I was not mentally prepared to think about this right now lmao
does that mean my bong is conscious?
it's a great point, we're unarguably a part of the universe
yes
Glad someone pointed that out.
Incredible how people ask silly questions like that without even taking 30 seconds to just think about the question
I was randomly watching Joe's show, came across this one, I went to school with Bobby , good dude !
What an awesome conversation to consider our limitless potential by opening up our imaginations.
It's a breath of fresh air in our doom and gloom culture
This dude is like the missing link between hard science and spirituality. He doesnt know that, but what he has observed from the physical world 100% jives with the theory of the Law of One. He's so close...The universe - reality itself is indeed conscious. Its more important than we realize. Its how we will one day traverse the vast distances of space.
How do you know this?
I have read that whistle blowers who have worked on back-engineering UFOs, say that there are no physical controls, only a chair and a screen and that the pilot steers it telepathically.
Does that make sense to you?
Elizabeth God is great
Hes so close?
You are not an authority on any of these matters.
LOO
The universe has always HAD the highest of consciousness
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Lol right?? WE ARE THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUSNESS. WAKE UP!!!
Yeah I would surmise it as God
Whoa deep bruh
The universe is conscious of itself?
Very nice topic. There might be some anthropomorphism in my post but I tend to believe that the universe is an "experience" simulation. We are it and it is us and everything else.
The sole purpose would be to generate any type of reaction such as life but also an infinity of others and collect the experience of it and out of that generate again and again and again, that doesn’t mean that it seeks for perfection it may just be about eternal creation over creation like a never ending discovery of effects. Now the Universe might have a beginning and an end in its very own existence but this can also be subject to creation over creation.
Following those thoughts I also sometimes believe that whatever we are able to imagine also enters this process of creation meaning that as terrifying or amazing this may sounds there may be a possibility that everything we imagine somehow exists within the universe itself…
the idea that the universe is slowly anthropomorphizing and that somehow this will make it ‘function better’ is palpably human
Rupert Sheldrake's work on morphic fields and morphic resonance blew my mind back in 2013 when I fordt started reading about it. The concept of Attractors and Chreodes (I think that's how it's spelled) are present in all processes and tend to repeat themselves over time.
GREAT vid!!!
His trialogues with McKenna and Abraham are a cultural treasure.
I need go revisit these ideas in light of my 🍄 discoveries
We are quite literally made of stardust and therefore, we are the Universe experiencing itself. The Universe and consciousness eminate from divine source (namely God or Buddha etc) and have always gone hand in hand. All life has been created by design to aid the processing of ideas and development of the Universe and are fed by Universal consciousness. But we’re also here to have an amazing time 😉👍🏻
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Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
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We are just the first bits of conscious stardust in the Universe. I think the Universe is trying to have all matter or stardust become conscious.
Well said!!
All is brahman
what about ant or insect consciousness? does this play a role in the universe and planet earth?
Popa Wu said “Everything you see always has been and always will what be” I was like 15 I think and those few seconds of him explaining the universe made so much sense to me suddenly
If we are made of the same things the Universe is made of, then is it safe to say that a small part of the Universe itself is conscious? Now if that's true, then imagine a Universe in our Multiverse that has a larger percent of conscious life forms than our own. Assuming Multiverses are real, then all possibilities of a Multiverse must be true, so then there is a Universe which has become composed of so many conscious lifeforms the Universe itself could be considered sentient
I believe that. This is my theory too. I believe it 💯
Multiverse is a cheater of truth and allows wrong to be right and innocent are guilty in a universe designed in the corrupted mind of one who wishes to ignore greater rules actually destroying law and order to continue practicing all that is evil without God around to answer to. (So science thinks)
omg I just went crosseyed
If there are multiverses and that is infinite then I would exist an infinite amount of times and have an infinite amount consciousness and because I know I don’t and I only know I exist here - I don’t believe whatever is out there is infinite.
Poppycock gibberish hooey BS
"How about a Universe, with a full consciousness?"
SpongeBob: "That's God, Patrick. It's already been invented!"
3:23 he’s basically describing a turning point in history which would make sense as there’s many turning points through history
Where do I watch any of his new full episodes?
Be nice to each other. Everyone is fighting a very hard battle. Much love to you my friend.
Blessings and gratitude Joe! Thank you for this exchange. It's fundamentally important to remember all has their own views on what life is what the heck are we doing here and why why why!?. I'd like to add, all on this planet have cosmic consciousness. In this perception of though, and thought has a huge part of consciousness and that is life all life exists even your instruments you use on your set is alive. So with this thought, the universe has always been alive it is us as a people who never had the perceptual awareness due to how we have been raised over time and not nearly enough information and toxins and illegal limitations to express and meet your inner cosmic awareness.In one thought leads to many more. Keep on your journey and know your on the right path and exploring all levels of inner awareness is the quickest way to become one though this doorway...it's all beautiful and all will be reveals very soon. Consciousness is alive and our earth is alive the biosphere is alive and we all work together. each planet has this unique life force and we as humans are ending a cycle, were evolving as the earth is. We are everywhere and human life is on many many planets throughout our Solar system and universal grids. It's time we all come together as a whole to unite as one collective called Earthly humans and open space for meeting our cosmic relatives because it's happening weather we hold onto fear or not....trust in infinite creation..it surrounds us and let's see collectively were we all can rise too....a new world is coming...and infor one am extremely excited for this evolution of our beloved planet and home we call EARTH. Adonai 💙🙏🌠
We are ascending 🙏🏻
I loved the sound Joe made of how the drain sounds 😂❤
We've already had sadghuru on the podcast, now I kinda want to see eckhart tolle on it, I love this consciousness talk, it's just so fascinating to hear. I don't know by but everytime I hear about Im just left feeling more interested.
Thank you for being an amazing contributor to the conscious awakening. Your content has always helped me grow learn and remain inspired.
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Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
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Its finally here
This guy is a fraud
This guy actually saying all this while not high? That's impressive.
You have a wrong idea of what ''high'' is.
Na seems pretty accurate.
This bag of flesh is just spouting off nonsense using his little pea brain. We humans cannot understand the universe. We don't have the capacity for shit. We've got a long way to go.
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some deep thinking going on! 🤔
I mean, also, what about our universe being Polaric? Both positive/negative and the merging, as well as the pendulum of the intensities of these ‘opposite’ energies
It’s actually comforting knowing I’m on earth and not some chaotic and lonely place in the universe where you feel nothing but fear
... for now.
I’d say the fact we are consciousness created by the universe means the laws of the universe that binds us to this world flows through us and is a medium for one thing to perceive itself.
Agreed, well put, I love the quote “Humans are the universe experiencing itself@
We need to separate consciousness / our energy / soul from the material reality (the Universe). Our material reality seems to be fixed / managed by sets of algorithms and coding (DNA). Somehow our conscious mind, energy, observation affects the projection of this reality. People say life feels like a video game, and they probably aren’t totally wrong about that. It’s like a simulation or holographic reality, experienced as real reality and with consequences (dying and many say there’s a review of what we did during our life here). Then we return to Source, the energy source, outside our dimensional reality. It’s a new state of being, of conscious awareness. NDE and OBE experiencers often say they felt WAY more alive outside of body than inside it. I can attest to this too. I’ve had two powerful OBEs and I’m convinced of this now.
It's all insane, but incredible. I'm willing to believe anything at this point.
You don't truly understand "being" until you've experienced this. I wish more people could see this, it would rid ego and unite.
Great vid worth watching here:
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Physical matter has never been demonstrated to behave algorithmically. Your founding assumption upon which you base your dualistic perspective is flawed. Quantum mechanics predicts (correctly) that matter is fundamentally unpredictable/deterministic.
Hence reality is absolutely unknowable. Is there *really* any difference between awareness of experience and that which experiences? "What am I?", you should ask yourself.
Perhaps you'll discover why God's name is I Am That I Am. I suspect you have asked the above and, from your comment, you have likely intuited why He is Named such.
@@ChristAliveForevermore The god of Abraham is a tired story and rational people are sick of it.
A nice conversation that was calm.
Most of the questions of the universe can be answered just by looking at the dynamics on earth. Everything works in cycles, our existence is based on problem-solving and mutation and fertilization. You can scale that up and it still makes sense.
Sean Carroll’s “the big picture” does a good job of covering complexity and the emergence of consciousness. Great interview!
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Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
Two wicked podcasts in a row 🙌🙌
The answers are out there, we just haven't answered the universe's captcha challenge correctly yet.
Ha! 👌
I just finished reading “Romance of Reality” and was very impressed by it. Azarian in definitely on to something.
My theory: the universe knows it's going to retract, so it created us to technologically advance enough to prevent it from ending. Just like how a living body has blood cells that repair it and fight off germs.
what strain you smoking bro?
Thought about this idea before too
Or maybe it created us so the future us are so advanced we create our own universe or save these one
This is a great take brother. Never thought about it
What about all of the black holes that are sucking in the universe? What is their purpose do you suppose? And then there's white hole theory where the matter from the black hole is thrust out into a new universe? I personally believe that we are living in a simulation and the creator of the laws that govern the universe is observing their creation through our experiences.
We are the universe experiencing itself. We are sensory instruments.
Some time ago I had this same idea or "ephiphany" about our role in th universe:
We can methaphoricly say that sentient beings (as we), are the neurons of the universe, same as a human neuron can "hold an idea" and we sometimes strugle to make up our own mind about something that happen to us, humans communicate (like neurons) to make this "collective mind" work.
1 Scott Fuk what you saying it here 😠 th-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/w-d-xo.html
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
This is one of the key parts of my outlook on life. I'm glad to know you feel the same.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration
That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves
Here's Tom with the weather"
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Would love to see Robert Lanza on here discussing his book Biocentrism...it makes the most sense to me.
In a way, we are all cells, our cells help us grow and improve and provide health and when we surround ourselves with other healthy humans (cells) it provides a healthier and greater experience overall, Last night I took only an 8th of M.M. and I felt like I was everything everywhere all at once, yes the movie lol but nonetheless I felt all of the cells throughout our earth. I realized that I have so much support from my family and friends that it makes me a better person overall.
"The Universe, " is just an atheists way of trying to comprehend our existence. Then, they inevitably come to the conclusion that, "The Universe," has a conscience, and created us!? Sounds a lot like a higher power.
Fascinating how people like this guy want to believe in something, but simply aren't capable.
When he mentioned Karl Popper, that was enough.
If the universe has a consciousness, then it's a "higher power" the same way you're a higher power compared to the cells in your body.
Also, we're emergent properties of the universe, it didn't "create" us.
Once a person understands themselves, then one finds God. Then the universe can be seen through the lens of wholeness, and the human endeavor is seen as a spiritual intelligence test.
What do you mean by "higher power"? There are many different views of what a higher power is. Someone who believes in God would view a higher power as an intelligence that created everything, that is hands-on to the point that praying to God may result in a change to a perceived coming outcome, that so loves and cares for the "lower power" beings (because if there is "higher" then there must be "lower") that there's a all-joyous afterlife waiting for those lower power beings who follow the rules of God. On the other hand, an atheist may view a "higher power" as a power greater than themselves that is not fully understood, has a certain hands-off approach to creation in terms of everything being set into motion at the start of the universe, and has no caring of lower power beings to the point that there is no afterlife to look forward to, and if lower power beings such as humans, destroy themselves and go extinct, then the higher power will simply keep going, perhaps to an inevitable end predicted by the lower power beings (you know, such as when all the stars burn out and the universe stops expanding and simply grows cold and everything ends).
So, I don't think an atheist would be talking about God when referring to a universe that appears to show consciousness. Maybe what we recognize as the consciousness of the universe is no different than looking up into the sky and recognizing the shape of a bunny in the clouds. Is it really a bunny, or is it simply a cloud that, from our limited perspective, currently holds a shape that we recognize as a bunny?
@@guillaumericard1233 emergent properties of the universe sounds similar to created in God’s image. The Bible talks about humans being God’s bride and how the ‘two shall become one’. People when they die have visions of a bright light drawing them to it while incredible feelings of love, acceptance and belonging flood their senses. Like being drawn home. God calls himself ‘I Am’ in the Bible multiple times which sounds like a declaration of consciousness. There are just a lot of parallels here. Rogan talks a lot about LSD being something like a portal for our consciouses to travel and meet other beings, Angels, Demons, Aliens. My point is that the only real difference between the Universe you’re describing and the ‘Higher Power’ others are describing is maybe it’s ability or lack thereof to love. At least the ability to love mere humans. That seems like a small difference when it comes to scientific standards. If consciousness is turning out to be more than simply a chemical reaction that occurs only in the human brain then maybe love is too.
The Universe is already 'conscious,' or more specifically, it's an unbroken field of consciousness. Call it god, the source of all being, the supreme reality, the one life underlying all of creation, etc. Humans are not "one of the driving forces" in this field, but simply a part of it. It is the human ego that deludes one into believing they are separate from it, or can have control over it.
Spot on brother. Although I would say that we are one of the driving forces "in" the field, but we are not the driving force "of" the field.
I'm not saying I disagree, only that no human can truly know or say this with certainty. Science and discovery is not made from 'gut feelings'
@@nighthawk0077 Not a gut feeling. Direct unitive knowledge through the practice of meditation. Millions throughout the ages have experienced it. Don't take my word for it. I wouldn't either. Anything beyond that is simply faith or belief, and I'm not interested in that. Those who achieve this unified state, the Buddha simply says, have done what has to be done. They have fulfilled the purpose of life.
@@zyrrhos Again not saying I disagree or can prove you wrong, but you must also be open to the possibility this is simply a built-in function of the human mind under certain conditions. It could in fact be that you are reaching or communicating with the source, or it could be a pre programmed illusion.
@@nighthawk0077 Programmed by whom? A noisy divided mind is incapable of seeing things as they really are. The still mind is its natural state. It is the most absolute truth I know. Everything else is illusion.
I agree. We are but a Vessel to venture out into chaos and put order to it. We do that by creating Rules. Rules of which already exist, so were more discovering these Rules. These Rules come in different degrees of 'perfection'. Some of them are bad. Some of them are good, and ultimately were trying to find the best of these Rules to bring 'Consciousness' to the Universe.
I think this is a cycle that has and will always exist. Beyond the Big Bang, and the infant Big Bangs before it and will come after it. The universe finds itself and loses itself just as is life and death. There is no life without death. The universe as we know it very young. Probably closer to that in comparison to that of an 1 month infant in the womb of one of our Mothers. In our Universe, we have a very long Journey ahead of us.
By the way. what I mean by Rules are the Cognitive Biases we hold as they are the only thing we know. Our Vessel is build only on our Cognitive Biases. I call them Rules because that is a good way to put it. How often you brush your teeth is one of your Rules. Everything you are is complex system of these Rules, Cognitive Biases, that make up your Ego. Your Ego is like the Captain of this Vessel, again made up out of your Cognitive Biases, or Rules. You exist within a Universe of Rules. Even Time and Space is just a Rule.
But why all this?
Well I think Bobby Azarian in this video explains it quite well. We are on a Journey. We are building something. Were growing and expanding. Were turning Chaos into Order. However, We as in You and Me, are one and the same. Different Vessels, but from the same Source. We need to do different things, and collaborate to construct our Universe. We need our Biases to do this much like we need different sets of Electrons to create different kinds of Matter that have different kinds of properties to create in of itself a mixed bag of Chaos to create an environment to exist within. After all, to exist is Why we exist. Otherwise we don't. There is not Nothing. There is Something. And it has to Change. Change is the Forever Constant.
This Chaos in of itself is a form of Pain. The Rules we discover and use are our tools to build our Vessel in such a way to reduce Pain. Pain is destruction. Pain is Death. Pain is the means to not exist. Love as an opposite is what brings everything together. Love is a Rule. Love is vague with many different subsets of meanings, but ultimately its the glue that holds the entirety of Consciousness together. Our simple minded experience of Love is very primitive if you will. We are aware of it in the way that it motivates us. But this Force is bigger then you and I, and perhaps ultimately, the End of our Universe, everything will be Love.
And this will also consequently be the end of the Universe, as the entirety of it comes back together to one single finite point, it will create a new Big Bang. And the whole process starts all over again. For all of infinity. Life and Death. Chaos into Order. Forever as its always been and will always be.
So you need to treat your Vessel right. Find the right set of Rules, Congestive Biases, and contribute to this Journey that We the Universe are on. Don't fret about the significance of your contribution, as so one single life contributes will be single handily be insignificant in the greater scheme of things. You as a Vessel is just a part of this collective Life Energy that we are all one and the same of. You and I are one and the same as the Grass. The Grass is a Vessel. It follows its rules. It contributes to this Journey too. And I'm sure you'd agree as important as the Grass is, its still just a small spec in its contribution to the Universe developing itself.
The Meaning of Life can be summed up in one simple word: Procreation.
Life consumes Life to exist. Just like the grass has to regrow every season, so to do all forms of life needed to do the same thing. And as the Rules become more collectively understood, as things Change, so too will be how Life appears will Change. Evolution. Extinction. Its all part of a changing system. A system built of the most recent Cognitive Biases available.
So Procreate. Its part of the Journey. Make your Vessel with the best set of Rules you can come to. You do this by discovering other peoples Rules, and if it better then the ones you have, you change it. Be influenced by other people for the better, as these very people are one and the same. We are all the same Life Energy. Together, lets bring Order to Chaos. Convert Pain into Love. And lets Transform the Universe as a whole into one Being. So we can die and do it all over again.
Beautiful i no longer need therapy
Why do i get panic thinking about death and whats gonna happen when we die i get scared of not being alive anymore and not existing like my mind cant understand whats going to happen
This is one of the most solid perspective of the universe and consciousness!
I did 5G of mushrooms blindfolded, the universe told me our purpose was creation. That our ideas take on a life force of their own and our purpose was to bring thoughts into fruition
Far out dude
For realsies?
we are the buds with which god tastes himself
@@kanyewest6539 God tastes himself? Gross.
Quick question, did you play any music or sounds? Or did you use complete silence(
It seems irrational to admit that the universe seems to have a goal using only physics to explain it. The chances of this type of complexity happening by accident is infinity to 1. God and science can both exist
Right, who says they can't. As a Muslim I've never had this problem with religion and science. Science is a just tool thats tells us about the natural world but its limited in it's scope, it can only go so far
The idea that something came nothing, or that consciousness randomly developed out of particles-atoms-amino acids.. is completely ridiculous and unscientific.
Thinking it is all coincidence is a sign of an egotistical and polluted mind.
God exists.
@@ApolloDeRothschild as far as what actually exists in the natural world. The moment you start making up things about a supernatural world outside of this one you're no longer in the realm of science, likely not even in the realm of reality..
@@Thezuule1 the scientific method involves the questioning of our perception of reality and then testing the hypothesis. So far science has conceeded the the concept of a higher consciousness is not fantasy and they are proving it using the laws of the universe. Now the question comes back to who or what wrote the laws of the universe, and mathematically speaking, the chances of it being random sounds more like a fantasy than there being a designer
@@camjoseph9241 💯 and firas zihabi has this great quote about randomness he says there's no such things as randomness its just an expression for our ignorance cause a being that knows everything to it nothing is random referring to Allah(the diety)
We ARE the universe. We are not separate. The atoms that make up our body make up stars. If we’re conscious…. The universe is conscious.
Best person I saw answer this was tom campbell, a main source of consciousness broke many parts of itself away to have some interaction that needed to learn, the physical realm was next for these individual units of consciousness to evolve.
One of my friends who isnt fond of philosophical questions gets very annoyed at the suggestion that, as conscious entities ourselves, and being of the universe, that we are the universe's consciousness. His reasoning is that it isnt pragmatic information, and there is no way to get a definitive answer outside of our own definitions of words. Personally, questions and ideas like this are extremely fun to think about and consider. Its a creative intellectual lens that puts a lot of life into perspective. Not to say pragmatic science is not creative or intellectual mind you.
I would ask your friend, what exactly would the universe gaining consciousness look like, if not humans? From a perspective outside of our universe, a portion of molecules and protons and electrons came together to record, measure, and chronicle the rest of them. Why is this practical information? Our drive to understand the world around us is directly linked to advances in technology. Although this is a baseless anthropomorphization of the universe, Its eerie to me that the universe seems to incentivize and 'want' us to understand it.
But of course we are! Humans are legendary
artists and poets are generations ahead of science and engineering.-McLuhan
I love it when Joe has these guests on what makes you think...deeply. only the universe knows its conscious I reckon..
Very intelligent guest!!!
I could listen to him all day.
I feel like at a certai point in the Universes history, there will be a point where humans and other life forms can’t expand out and rather look at converting into a digital world where you can upload your consciousness essentially creating a mini universe, possibly creating a chain of multi dimensional worlds and universe’s essentially
Bobby delivered those clever insights, sometimes even with resource credits, so seemingly effortlessly, and with such rich grammar. Truly incredible.