You really helped me, I have a mk3 with a d4f and when I turned my ac on the rpm will fluctuate and hesitate,after the maf and throttle cleanup the car runs smooth.
Salut, Poti curata mai bine corpul clapeta daca il demontezi --> 4 suruburi si ai acces si pe partea interioara (Atentie - a NU se deconecta electric, daca a fost deconectat tb sa faci o procedura de "invatare" a pozitiei clapetei). In mod "natural" clapeta fluture acumuleaza mizeria pe partea interioara. A si apropo de un coment pus de cineva, ... nu as incerca sa imi pun degetele pe acolo in timp ce motorul merge ... e cam periculos (motorul electric are prostul obicei de a avea cuplu mare si clapeta e cam ascutita).
Salut. Iti multumesc de sfat insa chiar nu cred ca ma incumet sa desfac suruuri acolo. Nu ma pricep indeajuns. O sa incerc cum mi-a sugerat Regoc. Rog pe cineva sa puna contactul doar si sa apese usor pedala de acceleratie. Asa ar trebui sa se deschida clapeta si sa am acces mai usor in interior.
one tip, when key is on the ON position, someone can hold gas pedal to open throttle plate, so you can clean better. btw, why did you clean MAP sensor, is it running bad?
Thank you for the tip. I shall try it next time. I went a few days later and sprayed some more and cleaned it even better. I did the same procedure for the MAP sensor because I saw the two procedures are usually done in the same time. Also I don't think any mechanic has done it so far, ans as you could see it was full of oil traces and also very dusty inside. The sensor was not noticeable when I pulled it out first time, only after I cleaned it. The car runs very well now and hasn't showed signs of bad idle or like cough-ing when I start the cold engine and drive a short length, like before.
I'd advise against that, you don't want your fingers in there if the throttle plate gets closed by the electric motor. Some cars will open the throttle plate if you press down the pedal, some will only do it if the engine is running. Others (for example the Twingo with the D4F 75hp 16v engine) will open it if you turn on the ignition with the throttle pedal to the floor, BUT will fully close it again shortly afterwards. Before sticking your tools or fingers into any part that can move, it's always best to disconnect it. The throttle plate can be openend by hand, it does require some force because it's spring-loaded, but it's doable and safer. It's also easier to clean both sides if you take it out completely.
Recently bought some air sensor cleaner from a local store and want to clean my maf sensor on my clio mk3 and throttle body but have heard it can cause a check engine light to appear if you touch the butterfly on the throttle body, I'm going to copy what you did in the video and hope for the best, did you remove a battery terminal before doing this?
I didn't encounter this issue. The terminals of the battery were connected all the time. I never touched them, aside from cleaning them from the corrosion, while mounted.
No. You do not disconnect the battery. You need it to open the throttle. You just have to turn in the key only a half in the ignition, but not start the car, just turn the gas pump on when you hear the sound. then somebody else has to press the acceleration, with the engine not running, and the throttle will open. you cannot open it manually because it it electronic and you will force it in vane. You can actually damage the throttle if you try to open it manually.
m3rovingian well i just finished cleaning on my Modus 1.4. I took it of and clean it but didn’t disconnect the cable and open butterfly manually and clean it with Carb cleaner. So I suppose that i was lucky not damaging it. After cleaning i start the engine and it works fine. Its not in service mode (til 2.500 rpm) it has full throttle now. In the end i clear faults. Hope that was it. Thanks
@@m3rovingian Nu se curata in acest mod , se deconecteaza bateria , scoti mufa de la corp-clapeta ,o demontezi si o cureti cum trebuie , ce s-a facut in acest clip este apa de ploaie + poti strica clapeta deoarece este conectata la sistem(calculatoare) , o mica atingere si o poti strica , cat este conectata.O data scoasa clapeta trebuie reinititializata, cel mai probabil via CLIP.
@@adrianadrian716 Nu am avut contactul pus in niciun moment. Iar clapeta de la admisie nu se da peste cap asa usor. Oricum am avut grija si nu am fortat-o in niciun fel. In clipul de anul acesta, 2018, am curatat clapeta avand contactul pus si apasand acceleratia, pentru a o deschide. Mai bine de atat nu se poate. DUpa aceea am asteptat sa se usuce totul. Aveti clipul aici: th-cam.com/video/J2cMMnhgggk/w-d-xo.html Masina merge perfect asa ca nu vad care este problema.
What engine is this? I have the 1.4 but this is different. Good video but would be better if you said what engine as well instead of just Clio 3, there's quite a few variations..
@@eyupbasak4816 problemi çözdüm arkadaş sayesinde sağolsun videoda anlatıyor herşeyi, rolanti dalgalanması oluyordu mesela gidiyorsun kırmızıda durman lazım 3-5 m önceden boşa aldığın an stop ediyordu araç veya viraj döneceksin vites düşürürken bile sönüyordu klima açıyorum sönüyordu vs vs boğaz kelebeğini temizledim felan videoda anlatıldığı şekilde halloldu problem yok şu an, tamirciye gidiyorup lpg den diyor taktırdığım yere gidiyorum lpg de sorun yok eğer bi kişi sorun bulursa ben bu dükkanı kapatırım diyor anlayacağınız işi bilen usta yok malesef Türkiyede 🤬🤬🤬
Would recomend to acctually remove the throttle body as it its not hard at it wont mess the engine up as its an electric throttle body just make sure to remove the negative cable from the battery
@@financial_discipline Thank you for the recommendations. Still I am not that good of a mechanic and I'm afraid i would mess something up. Either as it is, the car runs butter-smooth after doing this procedure.
I have serious issue with bad idle , car rpm goes up even without acceleration. The car stalls after driving few km's . And never starts. I have tried replacing Throttle body but same issue. Can you advise me. thanks
If it does like that on gasoline then go to a good car service and find a good mechanic. I had to change 4 car repair shops until I found the best on in my town. There can be so many things. Try to clean the MAP sensor also like you saw me in the video. Make sure the battery is good. But what you tell me is some serious stuff. How often do you replace the oil? Also make sure you have a new engine air filter.
Cum să aflați care este problema cu MAP sensor? Am un început rău de frig. revoluțiile se scufundă la 500 și se pot opri și atunci totul este în regulă.
@@m3rovingian )) The question is - how can I understand that a problem has occurred with the pressure sensor (map)? I have a bad car start. When starting, the rpm first jumps to 1500, then drops sharply to 500 and the car can stall
@@AnOn-hh8tu Try to replace the air filter then clean the sensor as you saw in this video and also the throttle with the products I used. Also chance the spark plugs to these ones th-cam.com/video/O6l8X1Pd8g8/w-d-xo.html Denso Irridium TT IXEH20TT. Use the best gasoline possible and use the Liqui Moly 5W40 oils, like Synthoil High Tech/Leichtlauf HT/ Molygen or 0W40 Synthoil Energy. Make sure the battery is working good and try again. Also try to warm up the engine well then use this product Protec Oxycat th-cam.com/video/gyrD5XlENRA/w-d-xo.html respect the instructions and drive the car by changing the gears from 3rd and 4th to the redline then drive it in 4th on a highway revved up to 4500-5000rpms for 30 minutes. you'll see the difference afterwards. If all this doesn't solve your problem, go to a specialized car service and diagnose the car.
You can use MAF cleaner in a MAP sensor but its a complete waste of money. A perfectly suitable MAP sensor cleaner is any contact cleaner that leaves no residue after drying, which AFAIK is all of them. If in doubt think about where the MAP sensor is placed vs the MAF sensor. MAP sensors are always exposed to engine oil particles, in the intake manifold after the throttle body, hence much more resitant to contaminants, oils and solvents. MAF sensors in the other hand are placed before the throttle body where almost no oil recirculation should reach them, these use cleaners that are much more expensive because they are designed to clean without leaving any residue and avoiding damaging the sensor wire in the MAF sensor. Frankly I think MAF sensors are the same as any good contact cleaner, but don't take my word for it.
Well the cleaners I used for each throttle and MAP sensor are the exact ones designed specifically for this use. I can tell you after each cleaning of this type my car runs smoother than before. Top that with the replacement of the engine air filter and all will be perfect.
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You really helped me, I have a mk3 with a d4f and when I turned my ac on the rpm will fluctuate and hesitate,after the maf and throttle cleanup the car runs smooth.
I am honored I could help. May your engine run as smooth as possible from now on!
what is the little pipes attached to the airbox just up the accelerator valve?
I don't wat to say something wrong, but I think they are the vacuum hoses, if those are the ones your refering to.
super maine ma apuc de treaba.trec la urmaroeul video ...daca tot ma apuc de treaba
:) Sper sa fii multumit de rezultat. masina va merge mult mai bine dupa curatare.
Hello please could you advice I keep getting an electronic fault light on my Renault clio 2 2005 and doesn't Rev up when light is on
Take it to a good mechanic for a full diagnostic. I really don't know how to help you.
If you clean the MAP sensor and the throttle manifold like you see here and you keep having that problem, go to a car service.
Salut,
Poti curata mai bine corpul clapeta daca il demontezi --> 4 suruburi si ai acces si pe partea interioara (Atentie - a NU se deconecta electric, daca a fost deconectat tb sa faci o procedura de "invatare" a pozitiei clapetei). In mod "natural" clapeta fluture acumuleaza mizeria pe partea interioara.
A si apropo de un coment pus de cineva, ... nu as incerca sa imi pun degetele pe acolo in timp ce motorul merge ... e cam periculos (motorul electric are prostul obicei de a avea cuplu mare si clapeta e cam ascutita).
Salut. Iti multumesc de sfat insa chiar nu cred ca ma incumet sa desfac suruuri acolo. Nu ma pricep indeajuns. O sa incerc cum mi-a sugerat Regoc. Rog pe cineva sa puna contactul doar si sa apese usor pedala de acceleratie. Asa ar trebui sa se deschida clapeta si sa am acces mai usor in interior.
one tip, when key is on the ON position, someone can hold gas pedal to open throttle plate, so you can clean better. btw, why did you clean MAP sensor, is it running bad?
Thank you for the tip. I shall try it next time. I went a few days later and sprayed some more and cleaned it even better. I did the same procedure for the MAP sensor because I saw the two procedures are usually done in the same time. Also I don't think any mechanic has done it so far, ans as you could see it was full of oil traces and also very dusty inside. The sensor was not noticeable when I pulled it out first time, only after I cleaned it. The car runs very well now and hasn't showed signs of bad idle or like cough-ing when I start the cold engine and drive a short length, like before.
I'd advise against that, you don't want your fingers in there if the throttle plate gets closed by the electric motor. Some cars will open the throttle plate if you press down the pedal, some will only do it if the engine is running. Others (for example the Twingo with the D4F 75hp 16v engine) will open it if you turn on the ignition with the throttle pedal to the floor, BUT will fully close it again shortly afterwards. Before sticking your tools or fingers into any part that can move, it's always best to disconnect it. The throttle plate can be openend by hand, it does require some force because it's spring-loaded, but it's doable and safer. It's also easier to clean both sides if you take it out completely.
Its better to take it out completely
Recently bought some air sensor cleaner from a local store and want to clean my maf sensor on my clio mk3 and throttle body but have heard it can cause a check engine light to appear if you touch the butterfly on the throttle body, I'm going to copy what you did in the video and hope for the best, did you remove a battery terminal before doing this?
I didn't encounter this issue. The terminals of the battery were connected all the time. I never touched them, aside from cleaning them from the corrosion, while mounted.
Thank you for video. Hello from Turkey.
Thank you as well for the support! All the best!
@m3rovingian Have you remove the cable from batterry before you start, also have you move the butterfly manualy to clean inside_? , thanks
No. You do not disconnect the battery. You need it to open the throttle. You just have to turn in the key only a half in the ignition, but not start the car, just turn the gas pump on when you hear the sound. then somebody else has to press the acceleration, with the engine not running, and the throttle will open. you cannot open it manually because it it electronic and you will force it in vane. You can actually damage the throttle if you try to open it manually.
m3rovingian well i just finished cleaning on my Modus 1.4. I took it of and clean it but didn’t disconnect the cable and open butterfly manually and clean it with Carb cleaner. So I suppose that i was lucky not damaging it. After cleaning i start the engine and it works fine. Its not in service mode (til 2.500 rpm) it has full throttle now. In the end i clear faults. Hope that was it. Thanks
@@milosbgd I am glad for you. may your car run smooth and fine from now on!
@@m3rovingian So, After 3 weeks same problem accured! Any ideas :(
@@milosbgd go to a good mechanic
Is it a proper way to clean the throttle and airflow sensor in Clio III 1.6 16V too (112HP)?
I believe so. Just try to let the cleaner do it's job without wiping it off right after as I did in the throttle
@@m3rovingian No , it`s not !! wrong procedure , don`t do it like this guy.
@@adrianadrian716 Please do tell me what was wrong?
@@m3rovingian Nu se curata in acest mod , se deconecteaza bateria , scoti mufa de la corp-clapeta ,o demontezi si o cureti cum trebuie , ce s-a facut in acest clip este apa de ploaie + poti strica clapeta deoarece este conectata la sistem(calculatoare) , o mica atingere si o poti strica , cat este conectata.O data scoasa clapeta trebuie reinititializata, cel mai probabil via CLIP.
@@adrianadrian716 Nu am avut contactul pus in niciun moment. Iar clapeta de la admisie nu se da peste cap asa usor. Oricum am avut grija si nu am fortat-o in niciun fel. In clipul de anul acesta, 2018, am curatat clapeta avand contactul pus si apasand acceleratia, pentru a o deschide. Mai bine de atat nu se poate. DUpa aceea am asteptat sa se usuce totul. Aveti clipul aici: th-cam.com/video/J2cMMnhgggk/w-d-xo.html Masina merge perfect asa ca nu vad care este problema.
What engine is this? I have the 1.4 but this is different. Good video but would be better if you said what engine as well instead of just Clio 3, there's quite a few variations..
The engine is 1.2 liter 75hp, petrol, the code model D4F 740. Thank you for the suggestion. I mentioned my full specs, but in a different video.
what clio? what engine? what year?
Renault Clio 3 Grandtour, 2011, 1.2 liter, petrol and LPG now, 75hp.
Thanks to you, ı solved the problem of my vehicle, thank you thank you 🤗🤗
I am glad for you! All the best!
@@m3rovingian ı am aware 👍🏻😉
@@CaferSttS ;)
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@@eyupbasak4816 problemi çözdüm arkadaş sayesinde sağolsun videoda anlatıyor herşeyi, rolanti dalgalanması oluyordu mesela gidiyorsun kırmızıda durman lazım 3-5 m önceden boşa aldığın an stop ediyordu araç veya viraj döneceksin vites düşürürken bile sönüyordu klima açıyorum sönüyordu vs vs boğaz kelebeğini temizledim felan videoda anlatıldığı şekilde halloldu problem yok şu an, tamirciye gidiyorup lpg den diyor taktırdığım yere gidiyorum lpg de sorun yok eğer bi kişi sorun bulursa ben bu dükkanı kapatırım diyor anlayacağınız işi bilen usta yok malesef Türkiyede 🤬🤬🤬
Brake cleaner works good also
Would recomend to acctually remove the throttle body as it its not hard at it wont mess the engine up as its an electric throttle body just make sure to remove the negative cable from the battery
@@financial_discipline Thank you for the recommendations. Still I am not that good of a mechanic and I'm afraid i would mess something up. Either as it is, the car runs butter-smooth after doing this procedure.
Hello how place egr in 1.2 16v?
I really don't know that much car mechanics, sorry.
That is mass air pressure sensor. It measures pressure. Even if you put shit in it it will still work...its like a barometer in your phone....
:))) I dare you to put shit in it
No it can get dirty and a clean won't do it harm if you're trying to diagnose an issue
I have serious issue with bad idle , car rpm goes up even without acceleration. The car stalls after driving few km's . And never starts. I have tried replacing Throttle body but same issue. Can you advise me. thanks
If it does like that on gasoline then go to a good car service and find a good mechanic. I had to change 4 car repair shops until I found the best on in my town.
There can be so many things. Try to clean the MAP sensor also like you saw me in the video. Make sure the battery is good. But what you tell me is some serious stuff. How often do you replace the oil? Also make sure you have a new engine air filter.
eu am un logan 1.2 am fluctuatii de turatie la pornire cum ar fi cand se tureaza cand moare motorul. Stie cineva cum se poate rezolva problema?
Curata senzorul de aer. Daca problema persista mergi la un service
Cum să aflați care este problema cu MAP sensor? Am un început rău de frig. revoluțiile se scufundă la 500 și se pot opri și atunci totul este în regulă.
Mai bine scrie in limba ta sau in engleza ca traducerea e teribila si nu inteleg nimic. nu stiu ce sa-ti raspund daca nu inteleg intrebarea.
@@m3rovingian
)) The question is - how can I understand that a problem has occurred with the pressure sensor (map)? I have a bad car start. When starting, the rpm first jumps to 1500, then drops sharply to 500 and the car can stall
@@AnOn-hh8tu What car do you have? The same as mine?
@@m3rovingian sandero 1.2 16v d4f732 (2014). almost the same)
@@AnOn-hh8tu Try to replace the air filter then clean the sensor as you saw in this video and also the throttle with the products I used.
Also chance the spark plugs to these ones th-cam.com/video/O6l8X1Pd8g8/w-d-xo.html Denso Irridium TT IXEH20TT.
Use the best gasoline possible and use the Liqui Moly 5W40 oils, like Synthoil High Tech/Leichtlauf HT/ Molygen or 0W40 Synthoil Energy.
Make sure the battery is working good and try again. Also try to warm up the engine well then use this product Protec Oxycat th-cam.com/video/gyrD5XlENRA/w-d-xo.html respect the instructions and drive the car by changing the gears from 3rd and 4th to the redline then drive it in 4th on a highway revved up to 4500-5000rpms for 30 minutes. you'll see the difference afterwards.
If all this doesn't solve your problem, go to a specialized car service and diagnose the car.
Thanks
anytime!
You can use MAF cleaner in a MAP sensor but its a complete waste of money. A perfectly suitable MAP sensor cleaner is any contact cleaner that leaves no residue after drying, which AFAIK is all of them. If in doubt think about where the MAP sensor is placed vs the MAF sensor. MAP sensors are always exposed to engine oil particles, in the intake manifold after the throttle body, hence much more resitant to contaminants, oils and solvents. MAF sensors in the other hand are placed before the throttle body where almost no oil recirculation should reach them, these use cleaners that are much more expensive because they are designed to clean without leaving any residue and avoiding damaging the sensor wire in the MAF sensor. Frankly I think MAF sensors are the same as any good contact cleaner, but don't take my word for it.
Well the cleaners I used for each throttle and MAP sensor are the exact ones designed specifically for this use. I can tell you after each cleaning of this type my car runs smoother than before. Top that with the replacement of the engine air filter and all will be perfect.
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