I got one of these during the IndieGoGo campaign, it ended up shipping with 8GB of LPDDR4, I liked it so much that I ended up deploying 14 of them for field service technicians. The on-board serial and on-board LAN port are crucial. Also has wi-fi and bluetooth. I use an AOC USB3 monitor when I am going to be staring at the screen for any length of time along with a wireless keyboard w/touchpad combo if I have to do any real typing. Overall, this has been a great little machine, if anyone is interested.
This looks like the perfect device for industrial maintenance technicians! There's a lot of machines around my plant with an rs232 port and the techs usually don't bother using it because its impractical to lug around a full laptop. This could fit in a tool bag right beside a multimeter. And from what I hear, usb to rs232 adapters aren't reliable and require more work to set up than they're worth. The keyboard looks like it could use some work but it also looks like its very easy to clean the dust out of which is incredibly important.
USB to Rs232 can be a problem but it's not always the case. When we're programming we use USB adapters on our laptops. But yes, build in Rs232 is better and more reliable.
Running a UART through rs232 via USB for a Raspberry Pi is...weird...and kinda laggy. I prefer a raw connection over usb, because bridging a raw serial connection over a USB connection - although it is a serial too - is usually edgy. o.o
the RS232 port really makes this, the amount of equipment I've used in the past the can plug into that thing is astonishing and dongles dont work, you either loose them, leave them or have someone borrow them. Like, you could velcro this thing to an oscilloscope and give it gigabit networking!
I totally see this thing being successful. Touch screen is a big miss though IMO. I use my Pocket 2 on-the-go all the time and the touch screen is invaluable, especially scrolling and pinch-to-zooming with the tiny screen.
This; all day long. I was the first one at my DC that started using the serial on our switches to setup and manage vlans and while carrying the Lenovo Y700 around is a good workout, it pisses me off as our crash carts wont hold my beef cake laptop.
The Pentium 3 Dell Precision laptops do start to look a little out of date sometimes... And then I remember that we haven't had to service them in over 15 years despite being coated in aerosolized coolant and die rolling machine grease on a daily basis. Can't kill the damn things. They usually end up in recycling because the machine they were attached to died first.
Not really. This thing only runs with 4GB of RAM, a 1-2,40GHz CPU and a really low capacity SSD. 1GHz BARELY runs Windows 10 efficiently and considering it only turbo's up to 2.4Ghz under-load it ain't gonna complete anything quickly. So it isn't much better. I'm not saying it's worse per say, but, for it;s form factor a LOT more can be done considering there are PC's that are the size of SSD's.
@@LeeFall Funny thing is this MicroPC is actually faster than something like Surface GO, cheaper and has a built in keyboard, ethernet and RS-232 port, which you would have to buy separately for a Surface increasing the price even further for an inferior device: www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/a7c99650#/ cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-4415Y-vs-Intel-Celeron-N4100/m549016vsm407836
While I dont know about archeologists. It is perfect for someone who works with servers or netcode ect. And since most industrial umpcs cost over $3000 id say this thing is pretty good. Also ps i love the gpd win 2 and you had no idea what you were doing with it. Mine runs doom 2016,borderlands 2, and tons of other games super well. I modded it with 1tb full size m.2 ssd.
I'm a network engineer. Seeing that Serial Port made me so happy. Something like this would actually be really really useful. Even a 10inch netbook (which needs a RS 232 to USB adapter btw) can be more than a handful when you're on top of a 20 foot ladder trying to type CLI commands one handed.
Yeah and I routinely have to replace the dongles due to lack of continued support (Gigaware) or dongles that just break after about a year (Tripplite).
Luckily the official model will have 8gb ram. At first 6 but now 8. Now I do want to buy it for 300 euros because everything with 8gb ram costs more than just 300 bucks. Will maybe help if you do intent to game on this (with ipega controller).
Perfect bit of kit for PLC engineers. To diagnose faults on equipment and large plant which have HMI's, PLC's and networking. Great for use to change a few lines of code and modify a program.
Aye, USB Serial just isn't nearly as reliable as a native port. Too many times have I spend rebooting the usb plug or entire PC just because the serial to USB plug refused to work with the program I was using despite the same programs always work on native adapters. You can't expect those ancient programs to be updated to improve support so Native serial connectors are a godsend especially when you're on the clock to fix something and have people leering at your expecting you to be done quickly.
Yea usb serial dongles are never convenient, it's another cable you have to remember to lug around. You only use it once in a while so it's always getting lost! This isn't a laptop replacement but it's a god send for IT personnel. Configuring old network and UPS hardware would be easy with this. This is like... A tool rather than a PC. You could set up the browser to allow old Java applet embeds without opening a regular laptop up to the security risk (I'm looking at you fucking HP JetDirect Printers!) They CAN'T be maintained without a Java embedded support in a browser. You have to keep an old laptop on hand to set one up these days, that or make some dumb decisions with IE on your modern computer.
this would be perfect in the server room, would save so much time... just need this tiny pocket pc to connect to any switch or router :o no big laptop and dodgy usb adapters. i ship it
note that the USB to serial adapters are not always compatible with older equipment for some reason. I worked with allen bradley PLCs and only about 2 manufactures of usb to serial adapters would work to interface with the software and hardware
I think having the power cable unplugged part the way through the test may have lowered cinebench score a bit. Most laptops don't run at full power on the battery
As a field geologist I can say they should be comparing them selves to a yellow Write-in-the-Rain field book. Or if you simply must have technology, an iPad or Android tablet. There are MANY serial ports on even recent scientific and industrial equipment. It can get really annoying.
That's really what this is for, smaller, lighter, cheaper toughbook minus basically all of the tough part, lol. Any hardware with a serial port probably doesn't have a companion "app" lol, in many markets you just need to have Windows. And USB-to-Serial adapters always seem to be much more of a pain in the ass than they should be, hopefully GPD can make this thing's serial port "just work" like most laptop manufacturers seem to be able to.
tbh i would love this pc as a archelogist in the field, the surf pads we have atm is lacking so much with the compitblity with older stuff and the keyboard. so something like this with windows would be great.
15:25 Oh come on Linus, this pc is not suposed to use on a desk! It should be used in stand and grab the pc in the air and type only with your thumbs and be honest this keyboard is only for short commands in command line or config comands, not for typing endless books ;)
As a networking / IT guy that's often out in the field, this is exactly what I'm looking for! Thing looks perfect for just sticking in the jacket when I'm heading out. Bonus points for RS-232 port. Can finally ditch the USB adapter. Didn't mention IP rating though. That's kind of important if you're an archaeologist!
RS232 got my attention... We still use that for some Avionics troubleshooting and configuration. Heck there is still equipment that has configuration modules that the program to edit the data is best optimized for 386/486 processors.
I think you're not giving this as much credit as it deserves Linus. In the industrial, scientific, and academic world this thing has a ton of useful niches to fill.
FYI Linus... Serial is REAL TIME. USB is not. I get the chasm of difference in bandwidth, but USB is buffered. Quite useless for quite a lot of all sorts of controllers (industrial type, not the fun type)...
Automotive diagnostics with a solid serial OBD2 connection, no usb to fall out. Network diagnostics Backup unit in the bottom of your bag on case your laptop falls in the middle of a job, monitoring of scientific stations, etc. If you need to hike to a HIGH weather station that is not reporting size will definitely matter.
This!!! As a road warrior sysadmin/msp I definitely see the use case for walking into sites under development where I may still need to access switches, routers and firewalls via console because the infrastructure is not fully stood up yet and without a dongle for the comm port? If this cost $200-$250 I would snag one up for sure.
Throw Linux on it for some on the go penetration testing as well... I can dig it. If the track pad is worked out and the physical keyboard can get to like blackberry standards for thumb pecking it should be fine.
SSHing on android phone is terrible... Even that keyboard would be much better. Even my Sony Ericsson Xperia x10 mini pro was better than all touch keyboards.
I still believe it was a mistake not to include a touch-screen. It's one of those "Better to have, and not use, than want and not have" kind of deals. 90% of the mouse "work" i use on the gpd win2, is done through the touch screen. The last 10% is when i connect a bluetooth mouse for some very specific finer detail things. The RS232 is hardware serial, and isn't run through like, a usb to serial adapter internally or anything. Which is good, as there are still a couple serial devices that are a bit finicky with usb-serial adapters, even high quality ones. When i was working with micro controllers, i had terrible luck with bootloaders using usb serial, so even my main desktop PC has an RS232 connector via a pin header at the bottom of the board.
Interesting that on their IndieGoGo they describe the external expansion as "Infinite" just because you can own as many MicroSD cards as you like... Definitely an interesting way to market it. Never realised my PS2 had *INFINITE* storage! All I needed was 300 memory cards
It might just be something lost in translation. Sometimes in Chinese they describe it as "endless *expandability* " to say that it has lots of IO options and when translated by someone who's not that good at marketing they just drop the "expandability" part and it becomes "infinity"
I wonder how popular this would be in actual business use. I know some companies who aren't willing to work with smaller Chinese companies like this. Especially with security concerns. Very interesting product indeed.
@@yotoprules9361 That wouldn't fix anything hidden in the firmware. I've heard they're even installing this stuff all the way down on the individual chips.
I mean, it's about scale and what kind of buisness we actually speaking about. If you work at big company with tight security, and everything is in the same building, yeah this thing is pretty useless. But if you are small to medium buisness, that does support with driving to the client (server maintenance, cash registers that kind of stuff) then yeah, I think it seems pretty good, serial port helps not many netbooks have it, and you'll have to get dongle. And this thing just slides into your pocket, and has everything you need from it.
So excited for this. I work for a MSP and this is perfect for quickly changing some configurations on networking gear or using remote desktop when I'm on call.
Things like this are super useful as additional tools to another PC. Any type of job that requires you to not have much would be perfect for these. Even for my work if I was out taking a clients info and did not want to haul things around this is perfect to jot things down, use / demo basic tools, view sites, and then transfer it back to the main PC.
RS-232 is still useful for interfacing with modern industrial equipment like scales, Vision systems (Keyence and Cognex), and PLCs. Something like this could be great for running diagnostics, a lot more portable than a full workstation laptop. You could totally have one of these with the required diagnostics software in a repair tool grab bag. I did that once with some Pipo brand hardware, I still do, but this is even more portable and includes the serial port without an adapter.
is it just me or is the audio out of sync with the video And i didn't know the celerons were that bad, the 6th gen m5 in my passively cooled tablet sustains 2.1-2.3GHz under all core load at 7W. Also, its very possible to run full desktop programs on a phone, you just need to run an ARM64 linux system in a chroot environment, then host a vnc server and connect to it or ssh into it, most linux programs are compiled for ARM64 so you get pretty good performance, especially on a snapdragon 845, which is *technically* faster than, even the 7th gen core m3's, and, since its native code running on the android system kernel, there's no emulation slowdown that you get with windows on ARM. And its not a VM, its a linux system running on the android linux kernel and using all the system drivers.
Here's a hack to fix the audio offset. Open the same video in a separate tab and set it to 0:02 then play the first tab as the audio tab then immediately switch to the tab that is 2 seconds forward and play that (this is the tab you watch). It should line up close enough. You can slightly adjust the video by pausing and playing if it's still slightly off.
Promotion from gpd: Built toward archaeologists and other scientific things.. etc etc. Linus: Let's run benchmarks and play rocket league..... Me: sure...
Ikr, just looking at all the comments from actual network engineers, automation and test equipment technician's, and an archeologist in the comments it is clear that this is useful and worth reviewing in a serious manner. If it isn't insanely priced I may ask if my work can get one. The Ethernet, DB9-RS232, and USB A on a small handheld is killer useful for working with HMI units and with various machine vision cameras.
The RS232 caught my attention. A lot of equipment in the power generation field and radio communication field is still reliant on RS232 for configuration.
He didn't mention it is only 299$ USD and also has a backlit keyboard... :) EDIT: As per users on the GPD Discord forum, the firmware update to 10W TDP somehow didn't apply successfully on Linus' computer, since his Cinebench only went to 180. Users who applied it successfully pushed into the 230s and higher! That means the MicroPC underperformed on all tests in this video!!
Holy crap, a Serial port!? This just became the one laptop people who still work with old ass hardware to buy. Because USB to serial don't always work with everything.
This is kind of off topic but for some reason transactional computing is way more hardware intensive than gaming/streaming. Yesterday I finally got my lazy ass to apply for some jobs with my phone. And as I was submitting to the same completed job app to several different starbucks locations that repetitive verification process temporary killed my home wifi! Older hardware standards are more robust to prevent input lag and network downs. This Amazon fire tab is more powerful than any 1980s business computer but the io is complete shit! I think I'd get more office work done on an old dos machine with word perfect.
Personally a touchscreen and a TrackPoint (that IBM/lenovo nipple mouse) would be more my cuppa tea. Not to mention business users are used to TrackPoint, and this is business-marketed, so it should have the red nipple.
I think this has more of an industrial/IT target. Their GPD Pocket which is already in the market has both a touch screen and a nipple... ...hehe, I said nipple :0
Using the trackpad with your right thumb is quite usable too, had a media keyboard with similar layout. Oh and this device is supposed to be used like a gaming device, thumb typing only. Yes Linus is using it wrong TM
There are several jobs I had were something like this would have been handy. I can see this things use for its niche its targeting. But this really does look like its targeting scientific field work or contractor work were a full use computer in a small form factor can be handy. There are various telecom and power grid jobs were climbing a tower with a full laptop sucks and having LEGACY I/O to tap into older stuff is a life saver.
I didn't bought it yet, but I'm looking into it when i have the possibility because i think it's a great micro pc to carry around and use it when you are in a vacation or without your real laptop or even when you don't have the space for the laptop. In my case of a student in IT engineering it could be useful when you have the great idea how to fix a bug but you're travelling.
@@RyouConcord Even the FTDI ones kinda suck. And they are the nicer brand. You can make them behave by locking down it trying to reinstall a device of the same USB PID multiple times, and then manually assigning COM ports to each chip and forcing it to remember the configuration. But that much effort so Windows doesn't randomly bork the driver's of the USB adapter you use for diagnostics is a tad silly.
Honestly these little pc's are pretty decent. I would love it for security and checking up on remote cameras in the field. Its got Ethernet which i use daily.
My Gpd Win 2 is hands down the best piece of tech I've ever owned, it runs every emulator flawlessly, and plays every PC game I've thrown at it beautifully, I love playing C&C 3 on the shitter.
I really love these live streams - more so than the scripted and edited videos. 😄😄😄 Anyone else? As for the device, it's interesting and from list of uses given, I believe the this would be really useful for telephony/cable/electrical grid engineers and technicians -- but only if the battery life is good and the device can take a few knocks.
@@NirateGoel I can't find any evidence they ever even streamed the WAN Show, no email from Twitch like I got with this stream or anything to suggest they even did it at all
Its nice to see a native RS-232 port. USB to serial adapters are more miss than hit nowadays. I had to go through 5 different adapters to find a good one.
The last UMPC that almost mattered was the OQO model 2+...company went out of business. It had touch OLED screen, track ball, backlight sliding keyboard, Verizon card, SSD, USB2, 1.8GHz atom. And with dongle had full size HDMI, extra USB2, HDMI. All of this in a package about the size of a Note 5 (3x the thickness). BTW, I have a 2+...it's a cool "vintage" computer.
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sounds are a bit off sync
Yes, it drives me crazy... I seriously can't watch the whole thing because of that.
Trollzzofficial yes. :(
Yeah that just ticks me off.
Works in internet explorer lol
@@OskarH True!! Thanks
NO Adblocker though...
disappointed the name wasn't kept as
What Even is TINY Computer?
why i keep seing you everywhere i go?
DeSinc Upload!!!
Maa booii desinc
Can we play hl2?? Lol
I agree.
Petition to change title back to "What even is TINY Computer?"
Where do I sign
@@owennlevinee You just did.
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I got one of these during the IndieGoGo campaign, it ended up shipping with 8GB of LPDDR4, I liked it so much that I ended up deploying 14 of them for field service technicians. The on-board serial and on-board LAN port are crucial. Also has wi-fi and bluetooth. I use an AOC USB3 monitor when I am going to be staring at the screen for any length of time along with a wireless keyboard w/touchpad combo if I have to do any real typing. Overall, this has been a great little machine, if anyone is interested.
This looks like the perfect device for industrial maintenance technicians! There's a lot of machines around my plant with an rs232 port and the techs usually don't bother using it because its impractical to lug around a full laptop. This could fit in a tool bag right beside a multimeter. And from what I hear, usb to rs232 adapters aren't reliable and require more work to set up than they're worth. The keyboard looks like it could use some work but it also looks like its very easy to clean the dust out of which is incredibly important.
USB to Rs232 can be a problem but it's not always the case. When we're programming we use USB adapters on our laptops. But yes, build in Rs232 is better and more reliable.
Running a UART through rs232 via USB for a Raspberry Pi is...weird...and kinda laggy. I prefer a raw connection over usb, because bridging a raw serial connection over a USB connection - although it is a serial too - is usually edgy. o.o
Yeah some might think a pc like this is useless and pointless but there are always niches that are glad to have an option that is perfect for them.
Perfect for IT guys who need an emergency PC you can throw in your bag.
the RS232 port really makes this, the amount of equipment I've used in the past the can plug into that thing is astonishing and dongles dont work, you either loose them, leave them or have someone borrow them. Like, you could velcro this thing to an oscilloscope and give it gigabit networking!
I totally see this thing being successful. Touch screen is a big miss though IMO. I use my Pocket 2 on-the-go all the time and the touch screen is invaluable, especially scrolling and pinch-to-zooming with the tiny screen.
@@kingrpriddick Yeah I would buy this without hesitation if it would simply come with a touch screen.
This; all day long. I was the first one at my DC that started using the serial on our switches to setup and manage vlans and while carrying the Lenovo Y700 around is a good workout, it pisses me off as our crash carts wont hold my beef cake laptop.
I noticed that the bottom of this thing has mounting screws, so you can even secure it better than with velcro.
I know right, I might get one to control my CNC
since most mobile science equipment rigs use 10 year old 13" Lenovos with a Celeron this is actually a decent upgrade.
The Pentium 3 Dell Precision laptops do start to look a little out of date sometimes... And then I remember that we haven't had to service them in over 15 years despite being coated in aerosolized coolant and die rolling machine grease on a daily basis.
Can't kill the damn things. They usually end up in recycling because the machine they were attached to died first.
Not really. This thing only runs with 4GB of RAM, a 1-2,40GHz CPU and a really low capacity SSD. 1GHz BARELY runs Windows 10 efficiently and considering it only turbo's up to 2.4Ghz under-load it ain't gonna complete anything quickly. So it isn't much better. I'm not saying it's worse per say, but, for it;s form factor a LOT more can be done considering there are PC's that are the size of SSD's.
This is so perfect for field use in scientific applications
Our lab has some old ass fujitsu siemens laptops
@@williamforbes6919 e
I'm a network engineer and frankly this would be great if my company could cough up the money.
Agreed
Or just buy a surface or something that wont drive you crazy waiting for it to load mspaint...
@@LeeFall Funny thing is this MicroPC is actually faster than something like Surface GO, cheaper and has a built in keyboard, ethernet and RS-232 port, which you would have to buy separately for a Surface increasing the price even further for an inferior device:
www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/a7c99650#/
cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-4415Y-vs-Intel-Celeron-N4100/m549016vsm407836
agreed, having the 232 port would be fantastic, im currently using an HP 2230s
yea to check stuff up on the cheap.. actually using surface pro with ethernet dongles...
While I dont know about archeologists. It is perfect for someone who works with servers or netcode ect. And since most industrial umpcs cost over $3000 id say this thing is pretty good. Also ps i love the gpd win 2 and you had no idea what you were doing with it. Mine runs doom 2016,borderlands 2, and tons of other games super well. I modded it with 1tb full size m.2 ssd.
for archaeologists yeah they can dig it up when its done loading chrome
NGL I only subscribed to your channel so u could have 69 subscribers
@@quarthmeat1884 i have the power to destroy something beautiful
To be fair, it *would* be impressive specs for Indiana Jones' day
Quarth the here we don’t deserve
@@quarthmeat1884 sorry but I subbed to him
Still more I/O than a MacBook Pro.... I’m not bitter 😂
Proof that Apple is full of shit.
LMFAO I love it
I'm a network engineer. Seeing that Serial Port made me so happy. Something like this would actually be really really useful. Even a 10inch netbook (which needs a RS 232 to USB adapter btw) can be more than a handful when you're on top of a 20 foot ladder trying to type CLI commands one handed.
Who Where why you got to be so rude?
@@jhonx5323 for real. some people..
Yeah man. Don't you know I'm human too?
You'll be liking that lanyard / wrist strap then!
Yeah and I routinely have to replace the dongles due to lack of continued support (Gigaware) or dongles that just break after about a year (Tripplite).
7:12 "Just chill out" *SLAMS THE DEVICE* #LinusSlamTips
Opening Chrome with only 4Gb of ram on windows, you are quite the optimist Linus
Luckily the official model will have 8gb ram. At first 6 but now 8. Now I do want to buy it for 300 euros because everything with 8gb ram costs more than just 300 bucks. Will maybe help if you do intent to game on this (with ipega controller).
I legit thought something was wrong with my audio for the first 12 seconds.
Same.
i thought my screen got stuck coz he didn't flinch at all
There IS something wrong with the audio, it's off by a half second.
Perfect bit of kit for PLC engineers. To diagnose faults on equipment and large plant which have HMI's, PLC's and networking. Great for use to change a few lines of code and modify a program.
Exactly!! This is perfect for that!
This computer is worth it's money just for the native serial port. That would be so useful for my work.
Aye, USB Serial just isn't nearly as reliable as a native port. Too many times have I spend rebooting the usb plug or entire PC just because the serial to USB plug refused to work with the program I was using despite the same programs always work on native adapters. You can't expect those ancient programs to be updated to improve support so Native serial connectors are a godsend especially when you're on the clock to fix something and have people leering at your expecting you to be done quickly.
usb dongle
Yea usb serial dongles are never convenient, it's another cable you have to remember to lug around. You only use it once in a while so it's always getting lost! This isn't a laptop replacement but it's a god send for IT personnel. Configuring old network and UPS hardware would be easy with this. This is like... A tool rather than a PC.
You could set up the browser to allow old Java applet embeds without opening a regular laptop up to the security risk (I'm looking at you fucking HP JetDirect Printers!) They CAN'T be maintained without a Java embedded support in a browser. You have to keep an old laptop on hand to set one up these days, that or make some dumb decisions with IE on your modern computer.
W/out
this would be perfect in the server room, would save so much time... just need this tiny pocket pc to connect to any switch or router :o no big laptop and dodgy usb adapters. i ship it
IT'S GOT A REAL SERIAL PORT?! O_O Ok, we're gonna buy this one.
Instant office worthy.
i want one (so when I get a bunch of retro stuff I can use it as a serial terminal) but I can’t afford it at the moment.
SouljaMini PC is next
This basically IS the Soulja Boy version of a laptop.
OMG. LMFAO. TY! Best YT comment ever
YOOOOOOOO
Whos soulja boy?
oh just that kid that sells that tiny computer
@@Anthony8851 aww thats cute
Let the meme die.
This doesn't show up on your channel or my subs feed. It came up in recommended. 🤦♂️
Darbians Photography the same with me
@@dylnbxtr can't find the wan show
Same for me.
Same here. Very very strange...
same, happens with voiceoverpete and electroboom videos today
note that the USB to serial adapters are not always compatible with older equipment for some reason. I worked with allen bradley PLCs and only about 2 manufactures of usb to serial adapters would work to interface with the software and hardware
I think having the power cable unplugged part the way through the test may have lowered cinebench score a bit. Most laptops don't run at full power on the battery
Change the on battery vs plugged in settings? Would kill batery faster though ..
Looks like it should be used in your hands... Not on table. Thumb on touchpad/clicks... And thumbs to type just like on a phone
As a field geologist I can say they should be comparing them selves to a yellow Write-in-the-Rain field book.
Or if you simply must have technology, an iPad or Android tablet.
There are MANY serial ports on even recent scientific and industrial equipment. It can get really annoying.
That's really what this is for, smaller, lighter, cheaper toughbook minus basically all of the tough part, lol. Any hardware with a serial port probably doesn't have a companion "app" lol, in many markets you just need to have Windows. And USB-to-Serial adapters always seem to be much more of a pain in the ass than they should be, hopefully GPD can make this thing's serial port "just work" like most laptop manufacturers seem to be able to.
I still have my day-glow orange notebook from field camp from about 20 years ago.
Serial port on this unit works great
tbh i would love this pc as a archelogist in the field, the surf pads we have atm is lacking so much with the compitblity with older stuff and the keyboard. so something like this with windows would be great.
Talks about not supporting companies who don't deliver on Kickstarter... Wears Jibo shirt.
@@blanknone5408 Shots fired!!!
I mean he has a jibo lol
Is this a double r/woosh rip tho
Complains.. Doesn't get the joke.
Talks about not making videos on them :/
15:25 Oh come on Linus, this pc is not suposed to use on a desk! It should be used in stand and grab the pc in the air and type only with your thumbs and be honest this keyboard is only for short commands in command line or config comands, not for typing endless books ;)
As a networking / IT guy that's often out in the field, this is exactly what I'm looking for! Thing looks perfect for just sticking in the jacket when I'm heading out.
Bonus points for RS-232 port. Can finally ditch the USB adapter.
Didn't mention IP rating though. That's kind of important if you're an archaeologist!
RS232 got my attention... We still use that for some Avionics troubleshooting and configuration.
Heck there is still equipment that has configuration modules that the program to edit the data is best optimized for 386/486 processors.
"It's our only prototype Linus, please take care"-GPD
7:08 -Linus
but he didn`t drop it at least
@@Rainaman- apart from 16:02!
"linus tech tips". see guys, this is a legit way to fix your device even a tech guy does this
I think you're not giving this as much credit as it deserves Linus. In the industrial, scientific, and academic world this thing has a ton of useful niches to fill.
i know its exactly what i need but i couldnt even finish the video for all the shade he threw at their professional applications
lol thats a nintendo ds
Oh! The dominos one!
Lol he has rocket league on it good luck getting some frames
Ash Ketchum he streams the games from a different PC.
Taikamuna i see u on every video
Me sitting here playing my DS like a 10 year old
FYI Linus... Serial is REAL TIME. USB is not. I get the chasm of difference in bandwidth, but USB is buffered. Quite useless for quite a lot of all sorts of controllers (industrial type, not the fun type)...
Yes. And most usb to serial converters won't work in these cases. This could be very useful indeed.
Diagnostics tool worthy. Nice
USB to serial converter sounds so stupid... after all, USB IS SERIAL. Universal SERIAL Bus.
running cinebench without the power plugged in definitely affected the score assuming it's defaulting to windows 10 power settings
I'm pretty sure it was plugged in during the cinebench run
@@Macantor13 nope, Linus plugged in mid-test.
@@STOG01 no it's been plugged in the entire time via the USB C cable
@@donovan6320 no he plugged the power in when half the test was made!
@@Macantor13 he started the cinebench benchmark while it was on battery only
lol "we don't usually talk about crowdfunded stuff" wearing a bloody 'jibo' t-shirt, nice 1 Shrek
Ahh, but wearing it is NOT talking about it...just subliminal adverts!
@@maximusmedia76JIBO is a failed product now.
When asked if it's more powerful than Jibo "oh yeah, in wearing my Jibo shirt, EVERYTHING is more powerful than Jibo."
Yeah I hate when people talk up begWare products. Yawn. Wake me up when I can go to amazon and buy one
Got'em!
Automotive diagnostics with a solid serial OBD2 connection, no usb to fall out. Network diagnostics Backup unit in the bottom of your bag on case your laptop falls in the middle of a job, monitoring of scientific stations, etc. If you need to hike to a HIGH weather station that is not reporting size will definitely matter.
This!!! As a road warrior sysadmin/msp I definitely see the use case for walking into sites under development where I may still need to access switches, routers and firewalls via console because the infrastructure is not fully stood up yet and without a dongle for the comm port? If this cost $200-$250 I would snag one up for sure.
Throw Linux on it for some on the go penetration testing as well... I can dig it. If the track pad is worked out and the physical keyboard can get to like blackberry standards for thumb pecking it should be fine.
SSHing on android phone is terrible... Even that keyboard would be much better. Even my Sony Ericsson Xperia x10 mini pro was better than all touch keyboards.
@@Jarymut thats why u bring a bt keyboard just in case
Better I/O than a MacBook Pro.
Brandon P wdym
@@bl4ckbl1zz41 he means this thing has better inputs and outputs than a macbook pro
BlackBlizz259 as in ports
Yet people still buy them. the more you complain, the more publicity they get. Its just free advertising. that's why they do the shit they do.
I remember being younger and pretending my gameboy sp was a mini laptop
Clicks on edge, launches immediately. clicks on chrome and waits
Yeah but within edge theres alot more waiting son
And freezing
He actually only one-clicked on chrome. Both times😅
I still believe it was a mistake not to include a touch-screen. It's one of those "Better to have, and not use, than want and not have" kind of deals. 90% of the mouse "work" i use on the gpd win2, is done through the touch screen. The last 10% is when i connect a bluetooth mouse for some very specific finer detail things.
The RS232 is hardware serial, and isn't run through like, a usb to serial adapter internally or anything. Which is good, as there are still a couple serial devices that are a bit finicky with usb-serial adapters, even high quality ones. When i was working with micro controllers, i had terrible luck with bootloaders using usb serial, so even my main desktop PC has an RS232 connector via a pin header at the bottom of the board.
I still believe it was a mistake to include Jake in stream.
Interesting that on their IndieGoGo they describe the external expansion as "Infinite" just because you can own as many MicroSD cards as you like... Definitely an interesting way to market it.
Never realised my PS2 had *INFINITE* storage! All I needed was 300 memory cards
300 x ? = Infinity
It might just be something lost in translation. Sometimes in Chinese they describe it as "endless *expandability* " to say that it has lots of IO options and when translated by someone who's not that good at marketing they just drop the "expandability" part and it becomes "infinity"
Isn't 300 SD cards still
finite ?
Naw..., that shit's still finite.
_ charlie2beards Confirmed!
More connectivity than the Macbook Pro!
I can definitely see this being useful as a portable test-bench in industrial and scientific environments.
I really like this sort of thing where you get to see part of the production and things going on in the background
Jake must have ignored Linus's executive order...
I wonder how popular this would be in actual business use. I know some companies who aren't willing to work with smaller Chinese companies like this. Especially with security concerns. Very interesting product indeed.
They could just install their own copy of windows.
@@yotoprules9361 That wouldn't fix anything hidden in the firmware. I've heard they're even installing this stuff all the way down on the individual chips.
Yeah. Installing windows will protect you against a sleezy Chinese ShitBox of spyware
I mean, it's about scale and what kind of buisness we actually speaking about. If you work at big company with tight security, and everything is in the same building, yeah this thing is pretty useless. But if you are small to medium buisness, that does support with driving to the client (server maintenance, cash registers that kind of stuff) then yeah, I think it seems pretty good, serial port helps not many netbooks have it, and you'll have to get dongle. And this thing just slides into your pocket, and has everything you need from it.
@@noscopesallowed8128 ogm...western media doing its best
As Linus abuses a half inch track pad “chill out”
So excited for this. I work for a MSP and this is perfect for quickly changing some configurations on networking gear or using remote desktop when I'm on call.
Things like this are super useful as additional tools to another PC. Any type of job that requires you to not have much would be perfect for these. Even for my work if I was out taking a clients info and did not want to haul things around this is perfect to jot things down, use / demo basic tools, view sites, and then transfer it back to the main PC.
*sees serial port*
*throws out old ThinkPad*
*cries until campaign starts*
*cries more till it arrives*
RS-232 is still useful for interfacing with modern industrial equipment like scales, Vision systems (Keyence and Cognex), and PLCs.
Something like this could be great for running diagnostics, a lot more portable than a full workstation laptop. You could totally have one of these with the required diagnostics software in a repair tool grab bag.
I did that once with some Pipo brand hardware, I still do, but this is even more portable and includes the serial port without an adapter.
is it just me or is the audio out of sync with the video
And i didn't know the celerons were that bad, the 6th gen m5 in my passively cooled tablet sustains 2.1-2.3GHz under all core load at 7W.
Also, its very possible to run full desktop programs on a phone, you just need to run an ARM64 linux system in a chroot environment, then host a vnc server and connect to it or ssh into it, most linux programs are compiled for ARM64 so you get pretty good performance, especially on a snapdragon 845, which is *technically* faster than, even the 7th gen core m3's, and, since its native code running on the android system kernel, there's no emulation slowdown that you get with windows on ARM. And its not a VM, its a linux system running on the android linux kernel and using all the system drivers.
Same problem here.
me2
No problem here? I feel weird cuz everyone else is having a problem with it
had the same problem so I watched the video in mytube on my tablet, worked like a charm there
2.1ghz in a celeron core is not the same thing as 2.1ghz in a "core" series core.
Here's a hack to fix the audio offset. Open the same video in a separate tab and set it to 0:02 then play the first tab as the audio tab then immediately switch to the tab that is 2 seconds forward and play that (this is the tab you watch). It should line up close enough. You can slightly adjust the video by pausing and playing if it's still slightly off.
holyshit, tks so much, 3 years later lol
That was an awesome video guys it can wait for the next one.
Totally thought that you were holding a DS in the thumbnail
Whoa!, as soon as I saw the RS 232 port I was actually kinda interested.
Promotion from gpd:
Built toward archaeologists and other scientific things.. etc etc.
Linus:
Let's run benchmarks and play rocket league.....
Me:
sure...
Ikr, just looking at all the comments from actual network engineers, automation and test equipment technician's, and an archeologist in the comments it is clear that this is useful and worth reviewing in a serious manner.
If it isn't insanely priced I may ask if my work can get one. The Ethernet, DB9-RS232, and USB A on a small handheld is killer useful for working with HMI units and with various machine vision cameras.
The RS232 caught my attention. A lot of equipment in the power generation field and radio communication field is still reliant on RS232 for configuration.
Haven’t laughed so hard in a while while watching you great worked man and to everyone that worked on this awesome stuff.
He didn't mention it is only 299$ USD and also has a backlit keyboard... :)
EDIT: As per users on the GPD Discord forum, the firmware update to 10W TDP somehow didn't apply successfully on Linus' computer, since his Cinebench only went to 180. Users who applied it successfully pushed into the 230s and higher! That means the MicroPC underperformed on all tests in this video!!
Finally something that doesn’t run Crysis.
Pretty sure it runs Crysis. Low spec gamer got it running on the original gpd win and this one has a way better CPU and iGPU.
It was a joke guys.
biglevian Thats a lie. The cpu in this one is a stronger by a quite a bit but the gpu is like a 15 percent downgrade
A joke has to be funny.
@@supermariosunshine64 clearly not
This is obviously a adult ds
I get its a joke but ds stands for double screen...just fyi
@@ryanwallace983 So make it dual-head?
Man I was somewhat interested in this video, but the audio is so out of sync with the video
Why is nobody commenting about the audio being waaaay out of sync??
THE AUDIO IS WAAAAY OUT OF SYNC.
I reloaded it twice and then tried three lower resolutions thinking it was just me.
They did, you just have to look
@@TheShivABC now i do see the comments. Weird, i did not see them earlier
Not everyone has this issue
Fine to me
This video and the WAN show aren't showing up on your channel for me 😥
They pissed off TH-cam. RIP LTT. TH-cam should have been smarter and killed them off a long time ago by betraying them with FloatPlane.
way better I/O than multi-thousand dollar macbook
@@blackcatredscarf1200 I'd be embarrassed to have an Apple logo on any of my devices!
@@alvinchan7746 but we all know it's suddenly easier to use and just works when the Apple logo is on something.
I’d rather say more port types 🙈
Holy crap, a Serial port!? This just became the one laptop people who still work with old ass hardware to buy. Because USB to serial don't always work with everything.
It's not even necessarily old stuff that has serial ports.
@@generalpopcorn6427 Reminds me if of the stupid expensive Cognex Dataman camera I was evaluating a few months ago. RS-232 interface, gotta love it.
This is kind of off topic but for some reason transactional computing is way more hardware intensive than gaming/streaming.
Yesterday I finally got my lazy ass to apply for some jobs with my phone. And as I was submitting to the same completed job app to several different starbucks locations that repetitive verification process temporary killed my home wifi!
Older hardware standards are more robust to prevent input lag and network downs.
This Amazon fire tab is more powerful than any 1980s business computer but the io is complete shit! I think I'd get more office work done on an old dos machine with word perfect.
USB to serial dongles are trash. I would get this purely for the onboard rs232
@Jerry House hahaha that is so obviously not what's being referenced here. Ok db9 rs232 serial to USB A adapters are garbage... Better?
I agree that the usb versions are junk
Same! Serial and the ethernet port are a BIG sell for me.
That awesome I definitely need one for my digital audio workstation
Personally a touchscreen and a TrackPoint (that IBM/lenovo nipple mouse) would be more my cuppa tea.
Not to mention business users are used to TrackPoint, and this is business-marketed, so it should have the red nipple.
I think this has more of an industrial/IT target. Their GPD Pocket which is already in the market has both a touch screen and a nipple...
...hehe, I said nipple :0
Using the trackpad with your right thumb is quite usable too, had a media keyboard with similar layout.
Oh and this device is supposed to be used like a gaming device, thumb typing only. Yes Linus is using it wrong TM
What I like about the nipple is that it can also serve left-mouse people like me (more like my keyboard is right hand).
If they remove the touchpad and make the screen touchable. I buy it.
Buy a phone oh yeah yeah
There is, it's called GPD pocket.
Their GPD WIN 2 does have a touch screen, and integrated game buttons and analog sticks, as well.
Oh yeah yeah
@@zalo2153 ? yeah yeah your buy one
There are several jobs I had were something like this would have been handy. I can see this things use for its niche its targeting. But this really does look like its targeting scientific field work or contractor work were a full use computer in a small form factor can be handy. There are various telecom and power grid jobs were climbing a tower with a full laptop sucks and having LEGACY I/O to tap into older stuff is a life saver.
I didn't bought it yet, but I'm looking into it when i have the possibility because i think it's a great micro pc to carry around and use it when you are in a vacation or without your real laptop or even when you don't have the space for the laptop.
In my case of a student in IT engineering it could be useful when you have the great idea how to fix a bug but you're travelling.
"If you need serial..."
Yeah i need cereal
but can you liquid metal it
USB to serial barely ever works... So you know how that is. I might need one of these...
Get a new cable or new terminal emulator bro
@@RyouConcord Even the FTDI ones kinda suck. And they are the nicer brand. You can make them behave by locking down it trying to reinstall a device of the same USB PID multiple times, and then manually assigning COM ports to each chip and forcing it to remember the configuration. But that much effort so Windows doesn't randomly bork the driver's of the USB adapter you use for diagnostics is a tad silly.
13:12 oh tunnelbear
Who remembers when this was a popular sponsor for Linus?
Didn't they drop them because they got bought out by mcafee?
Mcafee has money... ?!?!
@@ignacio1085 surprisingly yes. Intel sunk a lot of money into them. Who the hell knows why.
@@APUGuru Intel probably have too much spare money to burn...
There's a huge offset between the image and sound....TARAAAAAAN ? What have you done ?
It's a TH-cam problem
Taran doesn't control live streams.
Nano Mine it’s always tarans fault. No matter what.
I'd say 'full review treatment'! That looks kool!
But does it have a headphone jack?
Yes. Headset jack I think
Watema 3 watch the video
Yes?
Headphone jacks aren't as good as vga ports, so of course it does.
Oh yeah yeah
"He may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but he's certainly a tool"
I'm totally using that XD
@Wierius 9:05 my good sir
It's the GPD Micro pc.
1. serial is real time. 2. your audio is not :) seriously... anyway that is basically a mini pc with barely upgraded specs.
Honestly these little pc's are pretty decent. I would love it for security and checking up on remote cameras in the field. Its got Ethernet which i use daily.
amen
_How to properly clean your tiny metal computer_
at this point they better off just putting win 10 on a phone
They already did that. It's called a windows phone
@@FexyVRC Thats not full windows 10, thats an abandoned unsupported borderline useless mess
Windows 10 doesn’t like ARM much. Performs bad. At this point I’d rather use android or ios
@@FexyVRC if they just optimize it and use a decent spec phone it should work better then most of these tablet laptop craps
I think I found German project about putting full pc windows 10 on Lumia 950(and XL too) but they said it is pretty buggy.
My Gpd Win 2 is hands down the best piece of tech I've ever owned, it runs every emulator flawlessly, and plays every PC game I've thrown at it beautifully, I love playing C&C 3 on the shitter.
Could you get a capture card and connect it to the laptop so we can see the screen of the
Laptop easier
Nice Audio Sync linus, very professional
I really love these live streams - more so than the scripted and edited videos. 😄😄😄 Anyone else? As for the device, it's interesting and from list of uses given, I believe the this would be really useful for telephony/cable/electrical grid engineers and technicians -- but only if the battery life is good and the device can take a few knocks.
still waiting on that WAN SHOW you PROMISED.
😮
They should edit that and post
They didn't take it down. It just isn't showing up in the subscription feed or his channel page. This video in it self isn't on his channel page
@@ShadowTheNinjaKitty do you have the link??
@@NirateGoel I can't find any evidence they ever even streamed the WAN Show, no email from Twitch like I got with this stream or anything to suggest they even did it at all
Rocking the Jibo shirt talking about a crowd funded project.
Its nice to see a native RS-232 port. USB to serial adapters are more miss than hit nowadays. I had to go through 5 different adapters to find a good one.
Having the RS232 for legacy applications in a small form factor instead of a USB/RS232 dongle was very nice for a change and held my interest.
Hey Linus can you review the LattePanda Alpha or whatever because a tiny computer that can support a full PCI is interesting
Yes please wanna see what LTT does with the LattePanda Alpha. Or other such devices.
Jake please sync the audio
This thing scored 58 more points, than my laptop. I cry.
RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
The last UMPC that almost mattered was the OQO model 2+...company went out of business. It had touch OLED screen, track ball, backlight sliding keyboard, Verizon card, SSD, USB2, 1.8GHz atom. And with dongle had full size HDMI, extra USB2, HDMI. All of this in a package about the size of a Note 5 (3x the thickness).
BTW, I have a 2+...it's a cool "vintage" computer.
That tiny computer looks so cute! 😍