I am so glad I bought a 4C at the right time. Brand new it retailed for msrp over 80 grand I am convinced they will all sky rocket in value in the next 10 years it will be sticker shock as they will all double in value and keep climbing they will never make such cars again and its also a future classic.
Bought one right after I saw your first video. One year after, I got a serious offer for 10k above the price I paid. Of course I didn’t sell it, and I won’t ever sell it. This is a car money can’t buy.
@@Highway18 sorry just 2500 coupe’ circulating now and is it not car which value is growing up?? Ahha ahaha!! Sorry but yours evaluation is completely wrong.
@@Highway18 dude compared a 4c with a camry wow you clearly know what you‘re talking about😂 i paid 40k for my 4c and had offers for over 60k but i‘m not gonna sell it.
@@jndevelopment5986 JN I bought the first 4C in the state of Oregon...got it in Washington. Ive done a ton of things to it...little, nice improvements...with more to go. My 4C is in the desert, here in Cal, but registered in OR. I spend summers in Or, Salem and Portland. Ive owned Alfas continuously for Over fifty years, and started an Alfa specialty Alfacure shop many years back. Another rather rare car I have owned for some twentyfive years is a Supercharged MR2 SC, some 600 were produced in 89. I will be selling it sometime soon, as Imm getting older-74, and someone will get a pretty nice machine as Ive gone and completely rebuilt the motor, to a rather nice State. BTW, do you know what a real price for it would be ??? I want it to go to someone who will really enjoy it. Best, WmRD Bill Daemke
@@williamdaemke8859 HI Bill, Have our paths crossed at PIR? Your name sounds very familiar. I've done SCCA, ICSCC and PCA racing over the years. Hard to say what the value of the MR2 is. Watch the auctions and online sales is the best option. Would love to have it in my stable. Fond memories of looping one off the track at PIR years ago. I just had to find its traction limit... And I did find it, quickly
excellent videos as always. The best car value channel on youtube based on historical data. Now, if only the channel makes the leap and is able to predict future values and buys, then we wouldnt sit here and regret not buying this and that car after the cars been sold out for months, LOL
I just purchased a 2020 spider, medium spec, for a slight discount to MSRP. Big discounts NLA. Seems like prices are slightly up and stable to rising, hard to say what happens with pandemic and economy but think with 4c production ending scarcity will help value. I did see not many used cars available and the dealer configuration shows about 13 new cars within 250 miles from NYC. No data analysis but seems to be directionally correct with your great analysis. Gotta get through the bump in both value and depreciation rate of the last new cars being sold. Was looking at a 2017 spider that got traded, 20k miles, to a Porsche dealership for $44,500 and then listed at 49,900. It sold quickly, price unknown. Would love to see gtv6 analysis but likely not too many good data points.
The lack of used 4Cs for sale is a recent phenomenon; I was looking at these in 2019 and there was a glut of them on Autotrader at the time, with prices hovering between $45k to $55k for coupes. While they might already be near the bottom of their predicted depreciation curve, I expect them to stay there for some time to come given how useless they are for general transportation duties relative to direct competitors like the Cayman and TT and an expectation for more discretion in spending in the near term.
Oct 5th, 2022 - No "new" cars left. Only used. 17 Spiders for sale, 20 hard tops. *** Just purchased a 2020 Spider 3 days ago - White, 4800 miles, Akropovic, premium stereo. $77,000.
If Alfa will produce only electric cars after 2027 , 4c and other ( 8c, Giulia Quad , Gtam ) will grow up a lot. If not I think it will keep it value without any growing .
I am a big fan so thank you very much for your good and interesting analyzes. Is it possible that you could do European / German analyzes? I am from Denmark and could buy in Germany
Can I ask how you make your graphs? Do you use something like Python to interact with the API of the car sale site? Really cool videos btw, I noticed your channel while search for Porsche Cayenne info.
Top man I thought it was a flop thanks for the Info now I will buy up all of the alfa 4c. Does that mean you will get done for price fixing? And you go jail
Why would a car that nobody wanted when it was readily available become a collectible when it’s gone? Doesn’t make sense. If people wanted the car Fiat would still be making them. It will go the way of the Fiero.
Because there is a group of people that actually really want them. Not enough money in it for Stellaris big picture maybe, a hand built car. Hardly comparable to a Fiero and turns out they are quite reliable.
My comment is the only one that does make sense. “If people wanted the car, Fiat would still be making them.” They stated cancellation due to lack of sales. That’s how it works. I have no problem if they became highly desirable it’s simply my opinion that they won’t. Maybe someday more people will value the great fun a 4C can provide, but today they don’t. Looks like you boys are butthurt cuz you bought them hoping to make money. That’s why true enthusiasts buy cars to drive. My R8 and 458 GT get driven and I don’t care about miles or price when I sell them. I bought them for passion not price. I use this channel to learn market value for things I may purchase. Others seem to use this information to determine which car to buy and hope goes up in value. To each their own.
Just discovered this channel, I own a 4c myself and yes but is also a special edition spider limited to 36 units. I can say no one of us is selling it.
*Which car would you like to see analysed next?*
Great as always. Thanks, 4WT. When can we expect the 986 Boxster analysis?
@@KyleBrightman Good one, I should finish the Boxster series.
Audi TTRS (2019-21)
Audi ttrs (2016-2019) would be much appreciated
Camaro ZL11LE
I am so glad I bought a 4C at the right time. Brand new it retailed for msrp over 80 grand I am convinced they will all sky rocket in value in the next 10 years it will be sticker shock as they will all double in value and keep climbing they will never make such cars again and its also a future classic.
Bought one right after I saw your first video. One year after, I got a serious offer for 10k above the price I paid.
Of course I didn’t sell it, and I won’t ever sell it. This is a car money can’t buy.
Used Camrys are up in value. Take the money!!! This is not a future classic.
None Bizni...you are absolutely a none.🤣
@@Highway18 sorry just 2500 coupe’ circulating now and is it not car which value is growing up?? Ahha ahaha!! Sorry but yours evaluation is completely wrong.
Carbon fiber tub, handmade, extremely limited production, italian, strikingly good looks, sure checks all the boxes of a classic
@@Highway18 dude compared a 4c with a camry wow you clearly know what you‘re talking about😂
i paid 40k for my 4c and had offers for over 60k but i‘m not gonna sell it.
Decided not to sell mine lol I own a coupe rosso competizione! Great video👍
I bought the first 4C in Oregon...I still own it. These are car-peoples dreamcars!!! Simply put, my car loves me as much as I, it. WmRD
Where in Oregon are you located? I also have a 4C - in the Central Oregon area. Not many of us out there.
@@jndevelopment5986
JN
I bought the first 4C in the state of Oregon...got it in Washington.
Ive done a ton of things to it...little, nice improvements...with more to go.
My 4C is in the desert, here in Cal, but registered in OR. I spend summers in Or, Salem and Portland. Ive owned Alfas continuously for
Over fifty years, and started an Alfa specialty Alfacure shop many years back.
Another rather rare car I have owned for some twentyfive years is a Supercharged MR2 SC, some 600 were produced in 89. I will be selling it sometime soon, as Imm getting older-74, and someone will get a pretty nice machine as Ive gone and completely rebuilt the motor, to a rather nice
State. BTW, do you know what a real price for it would be ??? I want it to go to someone who will really enjoy it. Best, WmRD Bill Daemke
@@williamdaemke8859 HI Bill, Have our paths crossed at PIR? Your name sounds very familiar. I've done SCCA, ICSCC and PCA racing over the years. Hard to say what the value of the MR2 is. Watch the auctions and online sales is the best option. Would love to have it in my stable. Fond memories of looping one off the track at PIR years ago. I just had to find its traction limit... And I did find it, quickly
excellent videos as always. The best car value channel on youtube based on historical data. Now, if only the channel makes the leap and is able to predict future values and buys, then we wouldnt sit here and regret not buying this and that car after the cars been sold out for months, LOL
I just purchased a 2020 spider, medium spec, for a slight discount to MSRP. Big discounts NLA. Seems like prices are slightly up and stable to rising, hard to say what happens with pandemic and economy but think with 4c production ending scarcity will help value. I did see not many used cars available and the dealer configuration shows about 13 new cars within 250 miles from NYC. No data analysis but seems to be directionally correct with your great analysis. Gotta get through the bump in both value and depreciation rate of the last new cars being sold.
Was looking at a 2017 spider that got traded, 20k miles, to a Porsche dealership for $44,500 and then listed at 49,900. It sold quickly, price unknown.
Would love to see gtv6 analysis but likely not too many good data points.
The lack of used 4Cs for sale is a recent phenomenon; I was looking at these in 2019 and there was a glut of them on Autotrader at the time, with prices hovering between $45k to $55k for coupes. While they might already be near the bottom of their predicted depreciation curve, I expect them to stay there for some time to come given how useless they are for general transportation duties relative to direct competitors like the Cayman and TT and an expectation for more discretion in spending in the near term.
I bought a 4C after watching this video
Me 2
Bought one new in 2017 for 10k off msrp...I basically stole it. Underrated future classic for sure.
Same got mine at a steal 25k below msrp
Lauch edition is 100 k euro as minimum now. I bought mine 4C coupe’ black second hands. And now price is growing up 800 euro per month. Love my baby
I agree with you I have also 4C 2014 launch edition and their price is going up compared to the USA market
I can get a used one for 50ishK and it’s not going to depreciate much more. The engine is proven, very reliable
Oct 5th, 2022 - No "new" cars left. Only used.
17 Spiders for sale, 20 hard tops.
*** Just purchased a 2020 Spider 3 days ago - White, 4800 miles, Akropovic, premium stereo. $77,000.
Congrats on your new car! This video contains a brief market update for the 4C: th-cam.com/video/CeSsYRyRHHQ/w-d-xo.html
Great presentation, great personality, great info. Keep it up, king 👍
Please update the 4C data.
If Alfa will produce only electric cars after 2027 , 4c and other ( 8c, Giulia Quad , Gtam ) will grow up a lot. If not I think it will keep it value without any growing .
sooooooooo it looks like after bout 6 years~ theyll stop losing value and will maybe even start appreciate? im lookin for good investment
Always a good job
Please do the Lexus RCF
I am a big fan so thank you very much for your good and interesting analyzes. Is it possible that you could do European / German analyzes? I am from Denmark and could buy in Germany
I'm planning to do more analyses on the German market.
hello
can you do a Depreciation and Buying guide for 4C for the European market
How about the Dodge/SRT Viper?!?
I get many requests for them. As a European, the market is unknown to me so i need to do some research.
Can I ask how you make your graphs? Do you use something like Python to interact with the API of the car sale site? Really cool videos btw, I noticed your channel while search for Porsche Cayenne info.
I do all my analyses in python
The Lotus Evora resurfaced on my radar after I drove a friends Alpine A110 in England - may I request the Evora sir ?
Alfa romeos logic- it’s not selling well let’s raise the price
there are multiple examples where this tactic actually worked. or atleast gained interest
Camaro ZL11LE would be an interesting one to see.
The 5th gen Z/28 even more interesting.
My big brother bought one,it only cost 67 grand just for a sports car!
Iove your stats.. and I obviously love the 4c .. you don’t have a PhD by any chance do you?
Top man I thought it was a flop thanks for the Info now I will buy up all of the alfa 4c. Does that mean you will get done for price fixing? And you go jail
Why would a car that nobody wanted when it was readily available become a collectible when it’s gone? Doesn’t make sense. If people wanted the car Fiat would still be making them.
It will go the way of the Fiero.
You wouldn’t understand it Prince. So why explain?
What a stupid comment, go back to watching reefs
Because there is a group of people that actually really want them. Not enough money in it for Stellaris big picture maybe, a hand built car. Hardly comparable to a Fiero and turns out they are quite reliable.
Data is the data, opinions are worthless
My comment is the only one that does make sense. “If people wanted the car, Fiat would still be making them.” They stated cancellation due to lack of sales. That’s how it works.
I have no problem if they became highly desirable it’s simply my opinion that they won’t. Maybe someday more people will value the great fun a 4C can provide, but today they don’t. Looks like you boys are butthurt cuz you bought them hoping to make money.
That’s why true enthusiasts buy cars to drive. My R8 and 458 GT get driven and I don’t care about miles or price when I sell them. I bought them for passion not price.
I use this channel to learn market value for things I may purchase. Others seem to use this information to determine which car to buy and hope goes up in value. To each their own.
The launch edition for $45,000 is ✨Mine✨. Awesome video!
I’ll give you $3 and a bag of Funyuns
Just discovered this channel, I own a 4c myself and yes but is also a special edition spider limited to 36 units. I can say no one of us is selling it.
Many are selling it in Italy.
What other cars do you see going up, the SLR, GranTurismo MC, 360, i8, Vanquish/Rapide are also great buys rn
thanks for contributing to inflating the price of the car, now i can no longer afford to buy it
So its convenient buying a 4c now in Italy for 45/50k?
No bad idea, don’t buy one now. But one later. The market is very inflated rn because they just stopped making them. Hold out for a year or two.
A year later and they have appreciated much higher. I'm in the market now and should have bought one one 2021!
Excellent video as always
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