I sorry that the Melle products are going through trying times. But we as a people need to read the ingredients on all things food/hair and body, I have an allergic to coconut and that was the first thing I saw on the oil, my eyes went straight to it. I don’t buy a lot of of these natural products because I can’t do a lot of them I have allergies and asthma. Henna is another natural product I can’t use because it dyed my hair and took the oxygenation out of my hair. So my suggestion is to know your body. I’m going to a Trichologist that is bringing my hair back to life. 🙏🏽❤️ praying for everyone
@@RestingVirgoFace he harassed the TH-camr who gave the Miellé rice water line a bad review. He found her personal information through the payment system and called her to intimidate her into recanting her review.
That's a total lie! I purchased the entire rosemary line during their $8.00 BACK to school sale. My total order was $140.00, and I noticed I was losing some hair, and I returned all of it, and Mielle had the audacity to not want to give me a refund. I contacted the BBB, and Mielle was forced to refund my money!!!
I have only ordered from them once and never again. It was some years ago when everything was $7 and I ordered a few things and it took over 2 months for it to get to me. I had to contact customer service and then BBB to get my refund
I am so GLAD you mentioned the creators that were harassed over a review cuz that's something I will never let go and let her live down. It wasn't 'sabotage' when her husband and fans sent threats, but now that her karma's on her, now it must be someone else's fault. I am never buying anything from this lady again.
Yes, that was totally out of order. Her husband had no right to call and harass anyone. It highlights their immature mindset if they think everyone is going to like their product or that their product will play well with everyone’s diverse body chemistry.
I haven’t watched this video yet. All I know is that when I seen video by the influencer (cannot remember her name right now) breaking down the ordeal and how the husband harassed that her, I vowed not to purchase anything from Mielle again, and I know many people feel the same.
So ONE influencer brought her brand down??? When mannnyyyyy, including myself, have experienced hair loss bcz of her products? Make it make sense, ma'am. She's doing everything besides taking responsibility.
Maybe it wasn't her fault, if so, she should've spoke up and said that. But I'm like you, no way ONE person could bring down a company. I also suffered tremendous hair loss, but I'm doing okay now. I had to work hard to stop my hair loss and get my follicles safe again. It was scary!!! A woman's hair is her Glory/Covering ❤😊
You ladies do realize temporary hair loss is a normal symptom of hair growth treatments. The rosemary mint promotes shedding a new growth to make room for new growth. You have to stick with it to see results.
Thank you for this. I think transparency and accountability can get you very far and I even think she can bounce back from this situation but the gaslighting has to stop. As you said everyone is not on the payroll!
I agree with this! I feel like we have created a way to attack those who have questions or who want more accountability. Some are ok when it’s a non black business but when we expect excellence with our those companies we’re not supposed to do that. So I just be quiet
@@khidhrapoole6781 WE SHOULD CORRECT OUR OWN. SHE SOLD THAT COMPANY. IF I WAS ANOTHER NATION, OF COURSE I AM USING CHEAPER INGREDIENTS, BLAME IT ON THE ORIGINAL OWNER. DUHHHHHHHHH TAKE A BUSINESS CLASS OR TWO.
In my opinion, this is an unnecessary and odd response video from a cooperation. If, a conspiracy to derail her business, then take them to court, not social media 🙄
@@KlassicallyKept I think it is because they may be losing money, perhaps. I don't know but that's just my guess. I am not to fond of the products myself anymore. Never knew it was because the company has been sold.
No one created hysteria for me. I'm not on tiktok. I haven't had an IG in years. I was using their rosemary line. Then my scalp began to look as if it had been burned. The hair came straight out. It didn't even look like I had follicles. I thought I'd developed an autoimmunity. This was before I traced it back to the products. I went to the doctor, had a complete workup. Normal. I started to do product elimination. I began with the proucts newly added. Surprise, surprise Mielle. I only found other's had similar experiences with Mielle when I came across a random video on TH-cam a couple of months ago. It's been a year since my initial experience and my scalp is still recovering.
😲😢 🙏🏽I've never used Mielle products and I stopped using any commercial hair products over a decade ago. I just make my own hair care from food and spices and my and my daughter's hair is thriving , esp my daughter's...I don't trust these companies!
Because she didn't put it in carrier oil. Essential oils are dangerous and damaging. I make natural products, but you can find e.o. anywhere the will tell you not to apply it directly on the skin. Allegedly she changed the direction and told users to put it in a carrier oil. You don't have to buy it from her if that's the case.
That’s the same exact thing that happened to me. I wanted to use the product because I had just had a baby and I was concerned about my edges but after using the rosemary oil for a few days - my scalp in the front of my head started to look burned and like a scab had formed and I was able to lift the flakes along with the hair right off my scalp and underneath was clean bald. It didn’t like there had ever been hair there at all. I was devastated and ultimately the rest of my hair went along with it. I’m now starting over…😢😢😢
@daniellejoseph9531 oh no! How traumatic 🥺glad you're starting over....make your own natural products here all over TH-cam, rosemary oil, peppermint oil, lavender oil, hair masks and teas, nutritious diet (incl watermelon, very good for scalp circulation) not too much manipulation and watch it grow back, but that is SCARY what you experienced with Mielle...I don't trust ANY commercial hair products...aw, wishing you all the BEST on your journey!
The Mielle Rosemary Oil took my edges out years before this scandal started. Yet I never wrote or said anything about it until today. To each it's own.
I was one who experienced hair loss. I’ve been natural for over 10 years and have used and loved many Mielle products. That’s what made it hard to identify what the issue was. I thought it was hormonal or a vitamin deficiency of some sort. I was trying everything to stop the shedding and thinning around my hairline. I even had a small bald spot at the crown of my hair. It’s been about 4 months since I stopped using the rosemary hair mask (one of my favs) and all the symptoms have stopped and my hairline is thickening up again. This was not a coincidence. I have no reason to lie and am not an influencer. You get one chance to calm fears in these situations. There are just too many stories. Black women don’t play about our hair. Good luck to them getting women to trust that brand again. I’ll stick with small brands and my kitchen from now on. Smh.
Yeah I didn’t like her initial response she basically said because we were black we didn’t know how to take care of our hair. Why did the PR team approve this
Right. I took care of my hair just fine for over 20 years since I took over the job from my mother. My hair was healthy and waist-length. I used her conditioner once and it was immediately so locked up and damaged I had to shave it all off.
I personally saw the tide turn with Mielle when the new target consumer (from Alix Earle) started saying their hair was falling out. Our community responded by telling them it wasn't made for them, and they're probably using it wrong. THEN I saw the blk women speak about the problems they had.
Getting a sponsorship deal with a company whose products work for her doesn’t mean a negative review for a product that doesn’t work for her is intentional sabotage.
This is true! Monique’s problem or her claim is that while promoting another company, the creator was bad mouthing Mielle. I really hope this was not written into the creator’s contract or encouraged.
I 100% agree. It sounded very much like a PR crafted statement to put the company in a certain light to control the narrative. Maybe, they've sent a cease and desist.
Thank you for presenting such an unbiased view. I purchased Mielle years ago but did not use the product or purchase again because of the Linda Lynn situation. She posted the phone conversation between her and Monique's husband and I found it to be unprofessional and simply out of line! I don't belive or trust Monique Rodriguez business model because of that situation.
@@KlassicallyKept Linda kept getting calls at odd and inappropriate times from a number that she didn't recognize so she didn't answer. She thought it may have been a telemarketer or someone trying to scam her so she hit record and answered. Unfortunately for Monique Rodriguez it was her husband. Lyn posted all of the calls and the recording. Monique and the husband tried damage control with interviews and half ass apologies but the damage was done.
The Mielle brand has suffered more so because of the way the brand has responded! All things will not work for all people, but to disparage consumers because of negative reviews is unacceptable. And does she use her own products? I never hear her say “us”… only “you“? Is she part of this community or not??
Hello! In her 1st video responding to allegations where she appeared to be in her house she took a bottle of the rosemary oil and applied a few drops to her hair and stated that she and her family use the products.
@@KlassicallyKept Same here.. I am still trying to recover the thickness of my hair. Ms. Rodriquez needs to get better customer service and professionalism. I feel that she betrayed us for money.
Same thing happened to my mom. She has experienced severe hair loss & balding as a result of using this brand. Not everyone has integrity. I know a lady that sales body butters and oils. How ever, I have witnessed her use dollar store products & transfer them into a fancy bottle. She scammed alot of people. We gotta pray over everything we use on and in our bodies. We only get one life to live. 🙏🏽Prayers for all those affected. Our Heavenly Father knows all & sees all. BS always comes out in the wash. Especially if the buttermilk ain’t clean.
Same thing happened to my mom. She has experienced severe hair loss & balding as a result of using this brand. Not everyone has integrity. I know a lady that sales body butters and oils. How ever, I have witnessed her use dollar store products & transfer them into a fancy bottle. She scammed alot of people. We gotta pray over everything we use on and in our bodies. We only get one life to live. 🙏🏽Prayers for all those affected. Our Heavenly Father knows all & sees all. BS always comes out in the wash. Especially if the buttermilk ain’t clean.
Years ago when I was a loose natural I used the Pomegranate and Honey collection and the Rosemary Mint oil and had no issues. However, I stoped supporting the brand when influencer Linda Lynn was bullied and disrespected for her opinion/experience with a particular collection. I agree two things can be true at the same time: some consumers have experienced hair loss/trauma and some haven't. However to say all the experiences/complaints are a result of sabotage is dangerous as it disregards and invalidate those who have experienced hair loss/trauma.
I feel for Monique but I am not willing to sacrifice my hair to support a product which is heavily on topic for damaging hair. In my past experience, the Rosemary oil did nothing for me, the Ginger line dried my hair like the Sahara desert and the peony spray made my head itch and burn for days. All of this before the scandal. Money in the bin.
Thank you for sharing this. So you have tried a few lines and they did nothing for you. I have only tried the Rosemary line and it dried my hair out as well.
it's unfortunate that all of this is going down, especially at the detriment of our hair (as you stated). i can honestly say that i have never been able to handle the rosemary hair care like (pre and post acquisition). it didn't work for me, i felt the dry/brittleness of my hair after using the oil and my scalp was more sensitive than it should have been. that's a me thing, i learned that, so i stopped using it. i also have an issue with the shampoo/conditioner/curl smoothie from the pomegranate line, but my hair THRIVES with the leave-in conditioner and only that. these are the same issues that i had with raw coconut oil when the trend happened. my hair did NOT like that. the sensitivities involving individuals hair are vast, we just gotta be willing to pay attention. what i find disappointing with this particular situation is that, seeing that SO MANY individuals are having an issue, why not say "hey, guys, we are hearing there's some issue with this product with way too many of our clients, we will be pulling it down and analyzing the problem." i think that is a much better way of handling things ESPECIALLY when she continues to say that all she cares about is the health of the hair. if that is her stance, then show it. don't turn it into a playground fight, listen to your consumers and move forward. we are human beings, mistakes happen, fix it. people will respect that more than lawsuits.
Did anyone notice where she is recording the post ? Just curious because it looks like she is in a mall or store. Why you make a post that is supposed to be serious in shopping center/mall? I would think she would have did this in her home or office. Actually when you looking closer it she might be in hotel lobby,but still would anybody make post like that in a hotel lobby?
I’m so confused about her saying “haters”. Aren’t there other hair care product companies who are just as, if not even more successful? Why would she be so special that people just had to sabotage her company? And I don’t mean that to be funny? The reality is when a complaint came early, had she done some production introspection she could saved her company. I don’t see any accountability on her part. I’m so happy I never jumped on the Moeller bandwagon. I just always felt something was off about the company and products. I’m happy I was discerning about certain things and I’m sure going forward, so many others will be now as well! So sorry to those that suffered due to this company…
I have been following this case, and I think both things can be true at the same time. I believe that her product was slandered and libeled via influencers who has no moral compass and will accept money to spout off about anything, and I also believe that putting essential oils directly on your scalp is incredibly risky and bad for both hair and follicles. Essential oil is literally the most powerful parts of plants and herbs. It needs a carrier oil if it's going to be used on the scalp, but oils and butters do not allow sebum, the natural oil your body produces, to exit the follicle because the follicle is blocked. This follicle blocking causes hair loss. Once the follicle is blocked, continued use of essential oil on the scalp kills the follicle, often permanently. The only thing that I believe Monique Rodriguez messed up on is not acknowledging the role of the essential oils in her products.
Good morning, Thank you for this! Using essential oils is definitely a balancing act. From what I understand the reason many people loved Mielle was because of their constant use of essential oils in their collections. Since this situation many specialized doctors have said that leaving essential oils on your scalp can be counterproductive. I think there is room to fix this and to bounce back. I people are looking for transparency and to not be ignored.
@@KlassicallyKept I agree. Anyone following this case knows that there are thousands, if not potentially millions, of women in the comment sections talking about the same experience over and over again. That is not a coincidence. It is very unusual for women to post vulnerable hair experiences on the Internet, because most people prefer to post their best self, or what they see as their best self. I do not believe these women are lying. I hope she doesn't start gaslighting people. But I also feel bad for her because the level of scrutiny she is under has to be very uncomfortable and frustrating during the holiday season, when we are supposed to be thankful for each other. I'm glad you covered this, thank you.🤍🤍
I agree about influencers having no moral compass ! Each week it’s a new product favorite that worked for them. They are to blame as well! This should tell folks not to bend their ear to others.
I have concerns about how that oil is formulated. Essential oils are typically 1-5% of a formulation, which means they should be towards the bottom of the ingredients. This percentage range is often to prevent the likelihood of irritation. Even it were 10-15% it would be towards the bottom of the ingredient list and heavily diluted. Ingredients should be listed from largest to smallest on product labels. Essential oils like tea tree, peppermint, rosemary, etc. can be extremely irritating and drying if they are not diluted properly. I haven't looked at the other products in the line. Given Monique's history with bullying influencers I am not sure I believe her. I have not used any of the products from this line.
Good morning and thank you for this. Yes the ingredients list should be in descending order and I believe what drew people Mielle was their use of essential oils only now to find out they may not have been the best to use. As far as the bullying someone else in the community just made me aware that Mielle supporters were harassing people who were giving bad reviews. The truth of the matter is your products will not work on everyone nor will everyone like them.
There’s also a couple people on TikTok that shared the ingredients list and showed that there in fact has been changes. Idk why she doesn’t be honest and then make the proper changes instead of taking NO accountability.
I was one of the ones who experienced hair loss too. At first I thought it was prolonged postpartum shedding. I thought something was going on with me hormonally. My hair was coming out in clumps yet I was already 2 years postpartum. I even cut my hair and my hair would not stop falling out. When I saw the videos of women on TikTok sharing pictures of their hair I screamed because it was the same thing that was happening to me. I immediately stopped using Mielle’s products and switched to another brand and my hair is now thriving. I’ve never publicly talked about this so I was confused when she said the original creator was being paid by a competitor. Well what about women like me who didn’t say anything publicly but experienced the same problem?
I used the Mielle products, and I believe my hair was coming out from it. I can't be certain, but I used Mielle products consistently. This is crazy to promote products with so many claims of women's hair coming out.
I worked with the company and Monique wasn’t too “friendly” and although I was compensated it was pennies. She honestly didn’t want me on the shoot because I was plus size(I was pregnant🙄) she wasn’t “Christ like” in person or personable.
Nope. My hair became damaged and dry too. I think it might be her SUPPLIERS or P&G itself. That's where she needs to look for the real sabbatoge!! P&G bought it to destroy it...less competition. Black women hair is a multi billion dollars industry. Big companies do this all the time.
Is she delusional? I bought their entire line on Amazon, and I have receipts that I sent them all back and requested a refund because my hair started falling out in clumps. This was actually before the company was acquired. Why don't they just spend time trying to find out what part of the formula is not working and fix it? I hate people who do not accept accountability.
From a legal perspective ( I am not a lawyer lol ) I do not think PnG and/or Mielle would ever come out and say that the products are damaging peoples’ hair because that admission would mean they knowingly sold products that were detrimental, especially once several people starting coming forward.
Oh my… I started using this entire line about six weeks ago (shampoo, conditioner, hair oil, edge control). I also feel that my edges have been getting thinner, but I didn’t quite make the connection. Thanks for disclosing this… I will stop using all of those products. By the way, do you mind sharing how long you used her products before that happened to your hair?
@klassicallykept and @makedadegannes5173 There's no safety wrapping on any of her products. I always thought that was odd bc anyone could sabotage her products. 🤔
When a product goes into mass production the quality of the product is likely to be compromised. Production companies want to get the product out to as many people as possible, while the company spends as least as possible. With that being said, the ingredients may not have changed, but as you said, the quality of the product may have changed in order to cut cost. I would also be willing to bet that the formula would also change once a product goes into mass production, for example: if the oil cost more/less than aloe, the company might decide to use more aloe than oil. So, all the same ingredients are there, but just in different quantities.
I had no idea there was so much beauty drama!! I have never used Meille, & dont. Not because of this or any experience, just never got into the brand. But this is all so very interesting. Keep up your exceptional work!! Appreciate everything you share with us! ❤ Does CNN know you're out here?! 😉
lol Good morning and thank you! For me, I just wanted to try the Rosemary line, once it did not work I looked elsewhere, no hate, but I found Briogeo. CNN, highly doubt it lmbo.
5:53 this entire video was unprofessional and unserious. She provided no context about the influencer being “paid”. She didn’t address the fact that 100s of women have a shared experience.
People are complaining now, but I tried it when it first launched, and it was horrendous then! My scalp was on fire. Their problems existed long before P&G.
I bought the oil it dried my hair.. I will not purchase after she and her hubby attacked that creator who spent her money and reviewed the product and got attack.. like what??
I had never heard the allegations; I bought the oil last year with other products, then realized it didn't have any type of seal. I don't like that, so I returned it unused. She should re-think her packaging and put a tight, strong seal under the cap so that you can't even get a whiff of it without breaking the seal, and the seal can't accidently come off (like TB's line).
My daughter told me about the issue being discussed here. At the time, I did not pay much attention to what she said. We both use Mielle products. I think my daughter has since stopped. However, I still do, and after listening to this video, I wonder. I always used Eco Gel and stopped because I was told that gels make your hair dry and my hair was somewhat drying. I stopped using the Eco gel and started using the Mielle coil sculpting custard in my everyday hair styling. I also use the Mielle leave-in conditioner once a week after I wash my hair. I already had thinning hair, but now my hair is thinning even more than before and excessively brittle, and I am beginning to wonder if these products may be the issue or at least part of it. I guess the only way to find out is to stop the products and see what happens. My hair is almost at a point where I have to consider wearing a wig because my scalp is exposed in areas. It would be extremely sad if this is the case. I agree with you that the company needs to address these concerns. Thanks
The thing I find about mostly all of the products that are started by LLC self starting companies ( meaning started at home) is that they are largely protein based and it is from the perspective of what worked for that particular individual’s hair. My hair tangles up with protein based products. I found that out the hard way. I applaud these entrepreneurs for starting these businesses and I would encourage them to keep growing. That being said… we have to take the feedback and grow from it and not double down on an “ our product works” position. If you want growth, you have to understand the science of our hair and that we all need different needs for our specific hair types and conditions.
Good afternoon! Thank you for this and you made a very good point. I too am interested in how this will all play out. I think as a business owner you walk a fine line. You need to listen to your customer base but also make sure you are staying true to your company. I have noticed this as well. Company are now including protein in a lot of their newer products.
I lost most of my hair. I was bald and diagnosed with Alopecia. I decided to research the ingredients that was being used in the products I was purchasing. In the process of losing my hair I purchased numerous well known brands that did not stop the fallout but made it worse. By the time I stopped using the well known brands my scalp was inflamed and very sore and I was bald. I think Coconut oil was one of the problems. Coconut oil clogs your pores. To make a long story short, I decided to create my own hair care products that are made with organic and natural ingredients. My hair has grown back fully and it's thick. It took awhile because I had to grow new hair follicles and heal my scalp. Instead of Coconut oil, I use Avocado Oil and other essential oils. You have to be very careful with Protein and rice water. Protein should not be used with every hair wash. Protein is a special hair treatment to be used at the most once a month or whenever your hair needs it. Because of this, my products do not have protein in them at all. I have tested rice water and other protein shampoo's and conditioners. After one or two uses, my hair started thinning and breaking really bad. I went back to my regular shampoo and conditioner which repaired the damage and I haven't used nor tried Protein products again. Maybe one day I will create a Protein Hair treatment to be used at the most once a month or every other month. My 4c hair doesn't seem to need protein nor the rice water. It's thriving and growing without it.
9:29 this statement was definitely detrimental in a myriad of ways. The setting, with the noise and such in the background, her demeanor- she appeared petulant in the way she was responding. She didn’t take a moment to gather herself, it seemed as if she was reading a myriad of comments and then turned the camera on and responded. And it does FEEL like she’s not being transparent or listening to the consumers’ concerns.
I will say I don’t have a dog in this fight when it comes to the usage of the products. I literally purchased my first bottle of the rosemary oil days before seeing your first video on this topic. Social media can make or break a business and we as the consumers do need a bit more from Monique concerning the situation. The best line of this was “two truths can be true” because that is soooo real.
Good morning. I myself tried the rosemary oil and it was not for me. Since then I have not tried any Mielle products as I have found others that work for me. I think for many people they feel unheard but at the same time want to champion and continue to support the company because many people have gotten great results.
I remember them even acquiring Ms. Linda's address and personal information, which is insane. Ms. Monique was also in the comments of her video and was very unprofessional to me.
Going after an influencer is a dangerous game; you can't, one would think, enjoy the relatively free promotion that comes from influencers when they give a favourable review but then alledge foul play when things don't go your company's way. Rodriguez has form with unprofessionalism if not plain gangsterism when it comes to negative reviews. She could be pulling a Drake here.
She's lame and I'm disappointed her attorney told her this was smart. She isn't likeable or trustworthy. She thought she would just win because she is a woman of color regardless of the quality.
Hello Mya I used the Rosemary oil and it made my scalp inch so I didn’t buy it again . The Mielle Pomegranate &Honey leave in conditioner worked well for me. I believe that Rosemary line just doesn’t work on some peoples hair.Thanks for sharing.💜🌹
Great vid, Mya! You said several things here that are important to consider. A class-action lawsuit has been officially filed 11/21/24 against Mielle & P&G. Regarding the other big box brands you mentioned who've also had lawsuits filed - as a professional who researches ingredients. It's the ingredients. It's ALWAYS the ingredients and how they interact with an individuals body chemistry. The short end of it is the amount of time it takes toxins to build up in a persons system and cause symptoms varies which can only happen with the presence of toxic ingredients. The presence of skin (scalp) irritants also plays a significant role. Start looking at the labels of the brands with lawsuits closer and see what ingredients they have in common then look those ingredients up. What I know for sure is the discovery phase of lawsuits includes public sources like all the videos and the comments under them and this is where the truth resides and there are thousands of affected people sharing their experiences. I stopped using and recommending Mielle products to my clients in 2019 when I noticed harmful ingredients creeping in to the products. May we all be safe out here because Mielle & P&G are just the most recent and far from the only ones. Godspeed!
I only used the oils from Mielle because my hair didn't care for the leave-ins. I loved the way initially the Rosemary & Mint made my scalp feel, but after about 20-30 minutes my scalp would become itchy and inflammed. I tried it multiple situations (freshly washed, prepoo-poo scalp treatment, hot oil treatment, etc) however I always had the same reaction. So my thinking is my scalp is sensitive in something in the formulation - which can happen to anyone with any product they try.
Me too, I have locs and used the edge control to retwist my hair after washing as well as the oil dropper on my scalp. My scalp was itching all the time could figure out why. Saw these videos stopped using them and now I’m good. Something isn’t right with it, all the itching started a year after.
I'm glad I found this channel. I thought my hairloss was isolated. I have been bouncing back for a year now when I made the connection. I stopped using the product, and my hair is finally showing life again. I was losing clumps of hair. Months after separating from the product, the hairless stopped. I have. a long way to go before I see my length return, but I can see the bounce back.
My daughter and I have had a good experience with Mielle. I started using it in Dec 2023 (after it was sold). I use almost every product in the rosemary mint line-some daily, some weekly etc. The front of my hair (where I was mostly applying the oil to strengthen my edges and grow my hair back from damage) has grown so much, it almost looks fake lol. But I agree with you - I do not like the way the brand responded to this and I especially agree “everyone cannot be lying”. I’m probably going to try the sunny isle rosemary mint oil next because I’ve heard good things about it, but I’ll continue to use the rosemary mint line because it works for me/my daughter and we have been using it for a year. I swear my daughter has the longest thickest 4b hair of a 3 year old ever lol
Both my daughter and I lost a lot of my hair while using this product. I thought it was strange that a product that worked for us all of a sudden was working against us, only to find out that the product was acquired by a big corporation that changed the original formula.
Happy holidays I'm glad you touching based on this topic! I experienced hair loss using the rosemary line . Quality integrity and accountability is very important in the end of the day in this situation.
I started growing my hair from a TWA in August of 2023. I purchased the Rosemary Mielle line several months in. I experienced excessive shedding, and that was before I knew of any controversy about Mielle. I had also purchased the oil to apply to my edges. It did not help my edges, in fact, it hindered them. At that point I stopped using Mielle. I had also purchased the Mielle product in the red bottle. I stopped using all of the Mielle products, then I noticed the controversy. For Ms Rodriquez to not even mention that there had been many reports of people experiencing hair loss from her products is suspect in my opinion. I am loyal to any product that helps my hair and does what I purchased it to do. It makes no sense to me to be loyal to a product that is causing my hair to fall out. I have no obligation to be loyal to her. The whole sabotage story? I don't believe it. She doesn't seem to be concerned about her customers. She seems to lack empathy. Just my opinion.
I used the Mielle rosemary deep conditioner once and it was a little drying, but not the worst thing I ever tried. Didn’t like it enough to use again. My mother and aunt however both suffered severe hair loss and are still recovering.
The Rosemary Mint is a strengthening set! Just like a adding protein to strengthen hair once or twice per month! I use Mielle products and its actually working to strengthen my hair for growth. Her Rosemary Mint set should be use in place of a protein treatment, if you prefer! That’s how strong it is! If used too often for weekly or biweekly shampooing, yes, Rosemary Mint Strengthening will dry out your hair, just like a protein treatment! If using the Oil on scalp, make sure it washed out to within 1 hour or after overnight to avoid scalp irritation. So be cautious and use Mielle products for your hair concerns. I hope what stated here helps someone in their hair journey! Thank you sharing! Sharing is caring!😊❤
Although this might be true, on the the label it does not specify your claim. Regardless of what you saying if it is not on the label in how to use it of course it will thin your hair out. I too had the rosemary mint shampoo and conditioner. I wanst sure if was taking my hair our and once i stop using it my hair had less shedding. I personally thought it was due to me being peri-menopause. Her response he is is not taking accountable, gaslighting peoples experiences and no apology given to those have experience her products in this manner. S/B not all products work for everyone. I loved Motions and their whole entire line come to find out with my wrap underneath my shoulder length hair I was bald and the only change was using the Motions line. Please know that this right here is nonsense and why ppl on her saying they will no longer support. I have heard not 1 apology to customers this is where consumers really have a problem no real accountable or care about what her product did but blaming "a competitor" lile she the only black line out here STOP IT 🙄🙄🙄
I big chopped my hair a year ago and i’m VERY familiar with ingredients in hair products and my mom is a stylist so I’m familiar with hair products and I was making my own products until I got lazy. After my big chop I didn’t use the same products with each hair wash because I was trying to find out what gives me the slippage that I like so one week I unfortunately used the Miele products and noticed one section of my hair looked a totally different texture and it stayed like that for months so I paid extra close attention to that section and gave it extra tlc. Also when i used the Miele products I was combing what i thought to be shedding but it was big balls of hair. I thought ok i don’t comb through it on a regular so it must be ok. If it wasn’t for the difference in texture like an over processed relaxer (cotton like )I wouldn’t have thought twice about Miele but that didn’t sit right so I gave it to my mom’s friend who insisted I just wanted to throw away money and I was crazy. Ask me why I saw her last month with PATCHES of hair missing?? I forgot all about her taking the products until I saw a video about a woman’s hair falling out and Miele products because I thought my hair that didn’t work with it. I asked my moms friend what she’s been using and she said “The products you were throwing away” What’s sad is her products are costly and just because of the price she assumed that it’s automatically good. I just shook my head and sent her a few videos and told her to remember I told her something wasn’t right with this brand but she said I was WASTING MONEY by just throwing it away. But I believe these women 💯%
Thank you for your thoughts on this catastrophe. Regarding defamation lawsuits and going public as far as I can recall what your saying is true unless P&G and/or Mielle enters into a settlement with the offenders. In that case there’s a clause of non disclosure in the agreement and it would never be made public. We as the public would never know. This is often the case with high profile lawsuits. The case suddenly goes away. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts in a dignified manner. Looking forward to seeing more!
All I heard was Monique commanding black women to do free promo for her and her multi-billion dollar P&G owned company on the basis of her dubious allegation. Looking at the support she has she clearly has many women that will do this.
I’ve been natural for 6 years now, I have very thick 4c hair. My braider has been the only besides me touching my hair since the summer of 2022. Recently she done my hair twice in one month. She pointed out that my hair was thinning.I was only using mielle from the shampoo, conditioner, hair mask, oil even the edge control. My hair hasn’t thinned since 2020 when I was using cantu.
I experienced crown and edge hair loss after a month of use, but with all fairness, shortly after trying Mielle I tried As I Am Rosemary spray and had scalp irritation. It could simply be rosemary for me or the Mielle formulation started the irritation.
I used the rosemary mint oil and I noticed hair fall out. I thought it was because my hair is bleached. I started using more of the rosemary mint oil to combat the hair loss. My hair continued to fall out with a bald spot forming. Then I heard something about the Mielle products causing hair loss. So I stopped using the hair oil. Guess what? My bald spot filled in and my hair grew back. I am not saying that her oil directly caused the fall out, but I am not going to chance using the oil again. Some people say that it works well for their hair. I wish they would do some type of testing, paying ppl to test their products to determine if there is in fact a problem with their products. BTW, your skin is looking so milky and glowy. Beautiful. 😍
I became aware of the issues with Miele a few short months ago, on this channel. I am glad I did. I tried the Rosemary Mielle a couple years ago. I was surprised at all the hype about the hair care line. My hair was dry and tangled, just like the lady’s hair in the video; my hair is shorter. I was so disappointed and concerned because my hair is colored. Over a lot of time, I ended up mixing the remaining Mielle products with other products on my hair, and used it to wash my hairbrushes, combs, satin cap etc., so it wouldn’t be a total loss. I kept the bottle the oil came in, but I use it to mix my own concoctions. I just remembered, I tried the regular Mielle before the Rosemary, maybe a few years prior, and had a similar, but a little better result. My hair is medium length, 4C, and colored with a rinse. The product that I am currently using works wonders on my hair type, and I’m glad I found it. Perhaps my hair texture was just not conducive to Mielle’s ingredients/brand. Actually, in the past, store bought products yielded better results than Mielle, for me. Thanks so much, KK for staying on top of this saga. BTW, I don’t believe this case will see the light of a trial. Monique and Mielle’s current owners DO NOT want that deposition smoke. BUT, I could be wrong… Reciprocally, I would enjoy eating popcorn and sipping tea, watching you editorialize every detail.☺️ Keep up the great work, KK!
wow I had no idea any of this was happening. I am Latina and like the rosemary oil. I felt it helped me when my hair was growing back post chemo. now hearing the allegations of harassment , makes me not want to support it and find an alternate rosemary oil
Black people go hard to speak against this line but they don't fight the people who make these relaxers and other products that cause Cancer is a trip to me. Serious PTSD
Full transparency, my hair LOVES the pomegranate and honey shampoo, conditioner, and curl smoothie. I also really like the biotin edge control. I will be honest and say I’ve tried other products from Mielle including her hair vitamins and hated it!!! But that’s why I stopped using those things immediately! I also noticed some shedding with the smoothie before but I use other products to combat that. Seeing all this drama surrounding her products is disheartening, but I’m on the side of the truth. May it always prevail.
I feel bad for all involved. If you experienced hair damage because of her products, you have a right to voice that. Monique has a right to defend her brand, if, as she says, her products have not changed and are deemed to be safe. I do implore anyone experiencing hair damage and who attributes it to Mielle's products to go to a dermatologist to get confirmation and/or to rule out other issues.
Hair products are just like medicines, it affects everyone differently. So, if I’m not having any issues with a product I will keep using it. If I see that it no longer works, then I will move on to another product.
I used the Rosemary line one time and returned it. It made my hair dry as well. The pomegranate and honey never gave me issues, but I stopped using after hearing all of this. I really dislike when companies are bought out, yes it’s good for us, but not so much for the consumer. I used to use Carol’s Daughter back in the day too
Monica girl my hair started falling out I stopped using it my hair went back to normal. We can’t all be tripping. You can even tell in the look of her hair when she first started Mielle vs now. Her hair was healthier looking before she sold the company. Sigh
The only sabotage involving myself is when I decided to try the Mielle Rosemary and Mint rinse-out conditioner the one time and my hair immediately matted up like one big dreadlock and I had to shave my waist-length hair all off.
So if you are a content creator, of course you can be paid by a competitor because you are probably reviewing many competing products. This felt weak to me.
I think for a lot of people the statement made the situation worse. Yes! As a content creator you get paid by a company to do a review and/or promote their latest product. The problem Monique is claiming while the creator was promoting a competitors products she was bad mouthing Mielle. I would hope this was not written into the creator contract. I am curious, should there be a lawsuit, how this plays out in court.
*Case in point, Marlena Stell was the one that revealed this secret more than 5 years ago that influencers can be paid a lot of money to trash competitors products and influencers can do no wrong in their fans eyes.*
I have not had any issues with the product. But I don't use the Rosemary Mint line. I am keeping a close eye on how my hair behaves, and if I see any issues, I will discontinue use of their products. I am still rooting for Monique, and I hope she's taking this seriously.
And that is perfectly fine! I also think that for the people that the products worked for they should not be harassed. Like you said you will keep an eye on your hair.
We also have to be intention abput herbal products. Theres a reason why herbalist plant match to make sure that herb is for you and your makeup. Not everyone can use every herb. It's medicine ultimately.
Hi! Another good video! I have a question. Since you now talk about natural hair how can “the natural hair dictionary” out recent self published book be included in a video? Thanks❤
I bought the product shampoo and conditioner after the P&G purchase and it dried my hair and scalp. The only difference was hair product so Mielle is a no for me.
I lost a lot of hair using the rosemary mint collection and thought it was because of my thyroid issues. I've had thyroid issues for years, but my hair never fell out in clumps. It now makes sense.
I stopped using Mielle products years ago because the fragrances were too strong and gave me migraines. But in the meantime my daughter started using the products in the green bottle. She was away at school and her scalp became very inflamed and her hair started to fall out in clumps. She has eczema and her scalp was oozing from what I say are scalp burns. And it affected her skin on her face and down her ears and neck. But I hadn’t heard about the controversy at this point. I asked her what products she had been using, so I looked into it AFTER this happened to my daughter and saw all things going on. I immediately told her to throw all the products out from Mielle. I never thought to take pictures because I felt like there wouldn’t be a way for me to prove it was those products. But I’ve been natural since 2008 and know how to evaluate products without the mass hysteria of what social media says is good or bad. I used a very popular gel for years that others raved about and I used to love…but I noticed my scalp and neck started to burn and broke out in red bumps when I used it one day. I also noticed the smell changed. I was sad about it but threw the gel out. I haven’t used it anymore. I didn’t say anything about it until I went to a natural hair stylist and told her my experience. She confirmed to me that it wasn’t my imagination because she also had a reaction to that popular gel and told me the ingredient that changed was a preservative. I have since learned that ‘fragrance’ can be used to hide a multitude of dangerous chemicals in products. So anytime I get a reaction from a product I stop using it right away. It really doesn’t matter if it claims to be ‘natural’ or not.
Grew my natural hair for 5 years. Used only the rosemary oil during a trip, daily (as stated we can/should do…). Came home and my hair was broken off in so many places that I shaved It to a buzz cut…Rosemary needs to be properly diluted and the formula, clearly, is off.
This is very interesting. It made me smile. I agree, one does not lead to the next because the original influencer was lying, doesn't mean everyone is lying. Well, it is clear what the legal strategy is to discredit the source, which would cast doubt on the claim's legitimacy. Now, all that would have lumped themselves in this falsely will drop out, and those that are legit some would decide they do not want to go any further because of the lie. Of course, some will still go through with their case, but the strength will be diminished without a large number of claimants. Therefore, pushing forward will take a lot of work, making it time-consuming and costly. P&G and Mielle have deep pockets that can prolong this matter in court using the original lie as cause for dismissal, and the case may die a slow death if those remaining can't prove their individual claims are valid. Very interesting to see how it all plays out.
Thank you for this video. I agree with what you are saying 100%. I personally have never used this product line. On my healthy hair journey over the past 19 months. I have been using less and less store bought products. What works very well for me are homemade organic Ayurvedic haircare products. I make them myself, therefore, I know exactly what are in them. Right now I use 75% homemade DIY organic products and 25% store bought products. The store bought products I use, I have been using for over 20 years and are 'ride or die' products that are not expensive at all. I started reading ingredients in haircare products over 20 years ago. I have only added one new store bought product to my regimen. Which is pricy, that I order form the UK. However, because it's a product I only use a few times per year, a bottle will last me over a year.👍😊
Unfortunately as much as I wanted to support her company I too experienced loss of my edges and terrible hair breakage. I stopped using the product I purchased (the rosemary and mint oil) a year ago. After an intense trim my hair has grown back.
Not sure why everyone is all upset…..these products were never good to begin with….Every single product I tried from Mielle I gave away even paid the shipping.The absolute worst for me was the Rosemary line hair mask and the Pomegranate leave in….dry dry dry. Her products are full of glycerine so they feel nice initially. I switched to Innersense and haven’t looked back
I'm a man and I started growing my hair out May 2023 and only used Mielle shampoo, conditioner, Leave in conditioner, and deep conditioner. Unfortunately, my hair would come out in clumps just on shampooing. Once I used a pic, more came out. Those are the only products I used the reason why I agree with everyone else.
I recently was gifted the Mielle Pomegranate Conditioner and Leave-In, I haven’t incorporated the products into my routine yet but due to hearing about all of this, I’m curious. I’ve wondered if I should create a careful routine to test how the products react to my hair or if I shouldn’t risk it and should discard?
I would say if you already have products that are working for you to stick with them. If you want to try the products keep a very close eye on your hair.
This is my first video of yours and I just want to say I can tell you are whip smart. Very impressed by how you say what needs to be said while keeping it really classy and balanced. Keep doing what you’re doing!!!
I never heard of Mielle Product until this year Essence Fest in New Orleans! I got a few of the products, and started using them. I too started experiencing my hair falling out and thinning. It was alarming. I didn’t know what could have been the cause until I started seeing videos about the product causing hair loss. I thought this could be the problem. I discontinued using the product and when back to my regular routine of doing my hair. Less, then no breakage and thinning of my hair. I had to cut off a considerable portion of my hair due to damage and thinning. My hair is getting stronger and healthier since I stopped using the products!
I am a woman that pays attention to my body and what I put in it or on it. So I notice when something is off, I tried their leave in conditioner one time my hair became hard and brittle. I stopped using their brand immediately.
Some people don't read labels and instructions, others misuse things. Overuse can have adverse effects. Some of the products might not have been stored by the distributers at the proper temperature causing the product to develop mold. Mielle needs to investigate where those people who claim damage purchased their products. Some people might have purchased dupes. I have suspected some of my hair products from amazon to be dupes. I have even purchased tried and true products from Target that damaged my hair. One particular product from Target which went on sale for a very cheap price, dried my hair out causing severe breakage, this is what sent me natural. My stylist said, the product went on sale because Target had them sitting in their hot warehouse probably for years way beyond their reccommended shelf life. If products are not stored at the appropriate temperature for extended periods of time, it can cause chemical changes in the formula. Mielle should investigate this issue with their distributors and retailors and not disregard customer complaints.
Good morning this is true as well about misuse and overuse. You make a great point: and this extends to many products on Amazon. Many people have speculated that some things bought on Amazon may be counterfeit.
Good morning! You make very good points! Many people even outside of hair care have speculated that some of the products being sold on Amazon are counterfeit.
I used Mielle when I was still experimenting and was scammed into the whole “natural kinky curly hair care products” debacle and the mousse is the only product that seemed to work for my hair. I never recommended this brand to anyone but gave it as an option because each person’s hair is different. It completely dried my hair out!
My middle daughter use to use these products so faithful but the last big buy she did, there was something different about the products. She called me crying because her hair was dry and she was having breakage and thinning around the front. She was 26 at this time.
It can’t be rumors because for two weeks before I saw any video on it I kept telling my sister that something’s wrong with my hair like I can’t get my hair back to. It’s soft texture and then it was just shedding and shedding and shedding and I cry myself on the fact that I take care of my natural hair these last two years and it doesn’t shedso I don’t care about some famous TikTok or what she says. I care about my hair falling out just like everybody else I’m sure.
Mielle sold their brand to Proctor and Gamble the same as Carol's Daughter. When this happened, I believe P & G added ingredients to stretch the product and whatever that was it is caused hair loss. I've been using Mielle's since 2018 and I NEVER had a problem with hair loss but I did stop using it once people started to complain. I heard great reviews on Cecred brand. I will order the trial size and see how that goes because I need the extra moisture in my hair in the winter.
My thing is should the word organic even still be used in the product line and then how much did Proctor and Gamble change the formulas because that is so well-known that they change the formulas so I wish there had been a comparison done here
My first thought was that this is just another attempt to save the brand. I can tell you, my hair started to fall out. I used the pomegranate line, and my hair got so dry, and I experienced breakage. My husband used the gel, and his hair started thinning. So I stopped. I've been natural since birth, so I know my hair.
One thing to remember is that once these products change ownership or whatever, the formulas change, and they are no longer good for black hair! Owners will also change formulas to cut cost on products. I stopped using Cantu because mine was falling out. I use Yuka to test products now.
The reason I’ll probably never order Mielle products is because of the behavior of Monique but especially her husband.
And this is understandable. The truth of the matter is your products are not meant for everyone.
Yes energy is there ! Unfortunately it transfer in to the brand integrity and trustworthiness.
I sorry that the Melle products are going through trying times. But we as a people need to read the ingredients on all things food/hair and body, I have an allergic to coconut and that was the first thing I saw on the oil, my eyes went straight to it. I don’t buy a lot of of these natural products because I can’t do a lot of them I have allergies and asthma. Henna is another natural product I can’t use because it dyed my hair and took the oxygenation out of my hair. So my suggestion is to know your body. I’m going to a Trichologist that is bringing my hair back to life. 🙏🏽❤️ praying for everyone
Ive never seen her husband. What has he been doing?
@@RestingVirgoFace he harassed the TH-camr who gave the Miellé rice water line a bad review. He found her personal information through the payment system and called her to intimidate her into recanting her review.
That's a total lie! I purchased the entire rosemary line during their $8.00 BACK to school sale. My total order was $140.00, and I noticed I was losing some hair, and I returned all of it, and Mielle had the audacity to not want to give me a refund. I contacted the BBB, and Mielle was forced to refund my money!!!
I have only ordered from them once and never again. It was some years ago when everything was $7 and I ordered a few things and it took over 2 months for it to get to me. I had to contact customer service and then BBB to get my refund
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Took hair out in clumps. Horrible.
@curiousme114 😮all these experiences with hair loss can't be coincidental
I am so GLAD you mentioned the creators that were harassed over a review cuz that's something I will never let go and let her live down. It wasn't 'sabotage' when her husband and fans sent threats, but now that her karma's on her, now it must be someone else's fault. I am never buying anything from this lady again.
Yes, that was totally out of order. Her husband had no right to call and harass anyone. It highlights their immature mindset if they think everyone is going to like their product or that their product will play well with everyone’s diverse body chemistry.
Good morning. I was not aware that Mielle supports were threatening these ladies. Now I understand why this was such a big deal.
I haven’t watched this video yet. All I know is that when I seen video by the influencer (cannot remember her name right now) breaking down the ordeal and how the husband harassed that her, I vowed not to purchase anything from Mielle again, and I know many people feel the same.
I watched Linda Lynn’s video and I never bought another Mielle product. Her attitude and response as the owner was very off putting.
So ONE influencer brought her brand down??? When mannnyyyyy, including myself, have experienced hair loss bcz of her products? Make it make sense, ma'am. She's doing everything besides taking responsibility.
And I think this is the problem that many people are having!
And she didn't file a lawsuit. Especially against the "company who paid the influencer."
Maybe it wasn't her fault, if so, she should've spoke up and said that. But I'm like you, no way ONE person could bring down a company. I also suffered tremendous hair loss, but I'm doing okay now. I had to work hard to stop my hair loss and get my follicles safe again. It was scary!!! A woman's hair is her Glory/Covering ❤😊
You ladies do realize temporary hair loss is a normal symptom of hair growth treatments. The rosemary mint promotes shedding a new growth to make room for new growth.
You have to stick with it to see results.
Wow...I think that's what happened to my hair😢
We can still support black businesses and hold them accountable. Transparency is def missing because everyone isn’t on the payroll sis.
Thank you for this.
I think transparency and accountability can get you very far and I even think she can bounce back from this situation but the gaslighting has to stop.
As you said everyone is not on the payroll!
I agree with this! I feel like we have created a way to attack those who have questions or who want more accountability. Some are ok when it’s a non black business but when we expect excellence with our those companies we’re not supposed to do that. So I just be quiet
@@khidhrapoole6781 WE SHOULD CORRECT OUR OWN. SHE SOLD THAT COMPANY. IF I WAS ANOTHER NATION, OF COURSE I AM USING CHEAPER INGREDIENTS, BLAME IT ON THE ORIGINAL OWNER. DUHHHHHHHHH TAKE A BUSINESS CLASS OR TWO.
In my opinion, this is an unnecessary and odd response video from a cooperation. If, a conspiracy to derail her business, then take them to court, not social media 🙄
I think people are also questioning why now? This has been going on for months.
It’s someone’s opinion she couldn’t take them to court unless it was clear their review was malicious or false
@@KlassicallyKept I think it is because they may be losing money, perhaps. I don't know but that's just my guess. I am not to fond of the products myself anymore. Never knew it was because the company has been sold.
This social media world is a WHOLE otha ballgame. 🙄
No one created hysteria for me. I'm not on tiktok. I haven't had an IG in years. I was using their rosemary line. Then my scalp began to look as if it had been burned. The hair came straight out. It didn't even look like I had follicles. I thought I'd developed an autoimmunity. This was before I traced it back to the products. I went to the doctor, had a complete workup. Normal. I started to do product elimination. I began with the proucts newly added. Surprise, surprise Mielle. I only found other's had similar experiences with Mielle when I came across a random video on TH-cam a couple of months ago. It's been a year since my initial experience and my scalp is still recovering.
😲😢 🙏🏽I've never used Mielle products and I stopped using any commercial hair products over a decade ago. I just make my own hair care from food and spices and my and my daughter's hair is thriving , esp my daughter's...I don't trust these companies!
Because she didn't put it in carrier oil. Essential oils are dangerous and damaging. I make natural products, but you can find e.o. anywhere the will tell you not to apply it directly on the skin. Allegedly she changed the direction and told users to put it in a carrier oil. You don't have to buy it from her if that's the case.
Wow. Thanks for sharing
That’s the same exact thing that happened to me. I wanted to use the product because I had just had a baby and I was concerned about my edges but after using the rosemary oil for a few days - my scalp in the front of my head started to look burned and like a scab had formed and I was able to lift the flakes along with the hair right off my scalp and underneath was clean bald. It didn’t like there had ever been hair there at all. I was devastated and ultimately the rest of my hair went along with it. I’m now starting over…😢😢😢
@daniellejoseph9531 oh no! How traumatic 🥺glad you're starting over....make your own natural products here all over TH-cam, rosemary oil, peppermint oil, lavender oil, hair masks and teas, nutritious diet (incl watermelon, very good for scalp circulation) not too much manipulation and watch it grow back, but that is SCARY what you experienced with Mielle...I don't trust ANY commercial hair products...aw, wishing you all the BEST on your journey!
The Mielle Rosemary Oil took my edges out years before this scandal started. Yet I never wrote or said anything about it until today. To each it's own.
Good morning and I am sorry that happened to you and I hope you have been able to recover.
Products with high amounts of rosemary can be harmful to the scalp and follicles. She needs to adjust the amount.
Yes, I experienced the same. And I believe I have the 'old' formula. That's a big one hole in my scalp.
Her shampoo use to dry my hair out so bad and this is when it wasn’t that popular
@@startingpilateslittle coconut oil and black Jamaican castor oil.
I was one who experienced hair loss. I’ve been natural for over 10 years and have used and loved many Mielle products. That’s what made it hard to identify what the issue was. I thought it was hormonal or a vitamin deficiency of some sort. I was trying everything to stop the shedding and thinning around my hairline. I even had a small bald spot at the crown of my hair. It’s been about 4 months since I stopped using the rosemary hair mask (one of my favs) and all the symptoms have stopped and my hairline is thickening up again. This was not a coincidence. I have no reason to lie and am not an influencer.
You get one chance to calm fears in these situations. There are just too many stories. Black women don’t play about our hair. Good luck to them getting women to trust that brand again. I’ll stick with small brands and my kitchen from now on. Smh.
Gaslighting at best. Not listening to your primary consumers is a huge mistake on her behalf. Her brand will never be the same. 💔
There were way too many people complaining about "hair loss" for it to not be real... She's worried about losing money.
Yeah I didn’t like her initial response she basically said because we were black we didn’t know how to take care of our hair. Why did the PR team approve this
Many people did not like her initial response!
Very unprofessional. That’s what a PR team is for. The founder and her husband should not be in the mix like this
Right. I took care of my hair just fine for over 20 years since I took over the job from my mother. My hair was healthy and waist-length. I used her conditioner once and it was immediately so locked up and damaged I had to shave it all off.
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I personally saw the tide turn with Mielle when the new target consumer (from Alix Earle) started saying their hair was falling out. Our community responded by telling them it wasn't made for them, and they're probably using it wrong. THEN I saw the blk women speak about the problems they had.
Many people speculate the rosemary oil “ending” up on her favorites list for Amazon was the beginning of the shift as well !
Getting a sponsorship deal with a company whose products work for her doesn’t mean a negative review for a product that doesn’t work for her is intentional sabotage.
This is true! Monique’s problem or her claim is that while promoting another company, the creator was bad mouthing Mielle. I really hope this was not written into the creator’s contract or encouraged.
I 100% agree. It sounded very much like a PR crafted statement to put the company in a certain light to control the narrative. Maybe, they've sent a cease and desist.
Thank you for presenting such an unbiased view. I purchased Mielle years ago but did not use the product or purchase again because of the Linda Lynn situation. She posted the phone conversation between her and Monique's husband and I found it to be unprofessional and simply out of line! I don't belive or trust Monique Rodriguez business model because of that situation.
Thank you! I was not aware that Linda posted the conversation, but this was still out of line and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
@@KlassicallyKept Linda kept getting calls at odd and inappropriate times from a number that she didn't recognize so she didn't answer. She thought it may have been a telemarketer or someone trying to scam her so she hit record and answered. Unfortunately for Monique Rodriguez it was her husband. Lyn posted all of the calls and the recording. Monique and the husband tried damage control with interviews and half ass apologies but the damage was done.
This was it for me as well.
The Mielle brand has suffered more so because of the way the brand has responded! All things will not work for all people, but to disparage consumers because of negative reviews is unacceptable. And does she use her own products? I never hear her say “us”… only “you“? Is she part of this community or not??
Hello! In her 1st video responding to allegations where she appeared to be in her house she took a bottle of the rosemary oil and applied a few drops to her hair and stated that she and her family use the products.
I can honestly say I purchased some Mielle products and I felt as though my hair got thinner. Will never purchase again.
I hope you were able to recover
@@KlassicallyKept Same here.. I am still trying to recover the thickness of my hair. Ms. Rodriquez needs to get better customer service and professionalism. I feel that she betrayed us for money.
Same thing happened to my mom. She has experienced severe hair loss & balding as a result of using this brand. Not everyone has integrity. I know a lady that sales body butters and oils. How ever, I have witnessed her use dollar store products & transfer them into a fancy bottle. She scammed alot of people. We gotta pray over everything we use on and in our bodies. We only get one life to live. 🙏🏽Prayers for all those affected. Our Heavenly Father knows all & sees all. BS always comes out in the wash. Especially if the buttermilk ain’t clean.
Same thing happened to my mom. She has experienced severe hair loss & balding as a result of using this brand. Not everyone has integrity. I know a lady that sales body butters and oils. How ever, I have witnessed her use dollar store products & transfer them into a fancy bottle. She scammed alot of people. We gotta pray over everything we use on and in our bodies. We only get one life to live. 🙏🏽Prayers for all those affected. Our Heavenly Father knows all & sees all. BS always comes out in the wash. Especially if the buttermilk ain’t clean.
Years ago when I was a loose natural I used the Pomegranate and Honey collection and the Rosemary Mint oil and had no issues. However, I stoped supporting the brand when influencer Linda Lynn was bullied and disrespected for her opinion/experience with a particular collection. I agree two things can be true at the same time: some consumers have experienced hair loss/trauma and some haven't. However to say all the experiences/complaints are a result of sabotage is dangerous as it disregards and invalidate those who have experienced hair loss/trauma.
I feel for Monique but I am not willing to sacrifice my hair to support a product which is heavily on topic for damaging hair. In my past experience, the Rosemary oil did nothing for me, the Ginger line dried my hair like the Sahara desert and the peony spray made my head itch and burn for days. All of this before the scandal. Money in the bin.
Thank you for sharing this. So you have tried a few lines and they did nothing for you. I have only tried the Rosemary line and it dried my hair out as well.
@@KlassicallyKept ♥♥♥
it's unfortunate that all of this is going down, especially at the detriment of our hair (as you stated). i can honestly say that i have never been able to handle the rosemary hair care like (pre and post acquisition). it didn't work for me, i felt the dry/brittleness of my hair after using the oil and my scalp was more sensitive than it should have been. that's a me thing, i learned that, so i stopped using it. i also have an issue with the shampoo/conditioner/curl smoothie from the pomegranate line, but my hair THRIVES with the leave-in conditioner and only that. these are the same issues that i had with raw coconut oil when the trend happened. my hair did NOT like that. the sensitivities involving individuals hair are vast, we just gotta be willing to pay attention.
what i find disappointing with this particular situation is that, seeing that SO MANY individuals are having an issue, why not say "hey, guys, we are hearing there's some issue with this product with way too many of our clients, we will be pulling it down and analyzing the problem." i think that is a much better way of handling things ESPECIALLY when she continues to say that all she cares about is the health of the hair. if that is her stance, then show it. don't turn it into a playground fight, listen to your consumers and move forward. we are human beings, mistakes happen, fix it. people will respect that more than lawsuits.
Right. But, they want to tell folks that have been washing their hair since the 1900s that they don't know what they are doing! 😂
Did anyone notice where she is recording the post ? Just curious because it looks like she is in a mall or store. Why you make a post that is supposed to be serious in shopping center/mall? I would think she would have did this in her home or office. Actually when you looking closer it she might be in hotel lobby,but still would anybody make post like that in a hotel lobby?
She looked a mess as well
Definitely a mall
I was thinking the same thing
@@DJRenee Right?! What is going on with her hair?
I’m so confused about her saying “haters”. Aren’t there other hair care product companies who are just as, if not even more successful? Why would she be so special that people just had to sabotage her company? And I don’t mean that to be funny? The reality is when a complaint came early, had she done some production introspection she could saved her company. I don’t see any accountability on her part. I’m so happy I never jumped on the Moeller bandwagon. I just always felt something was off about the company and products. I’m happy I was discerning about certain things and I’m sure going forward, so many others will be now as well! So sorry to those that suffered due to this company…
I have been following this case, and I think both things can be true at the same time.
I believe that her product was slandered and libeled via influencers who has no moral compass and will accept money to spout off about anything, and I also believe that putting essential oils directly on your scalp is incredibly risky and bad for both hair and follicles.
Essential oil is literally the most powerful parts of plants and herbs.
It needs a carrier oil if it's going to be used on the scalp, but oils and butters do not allow sebum, the natural oil your body produces, to exit the follicle because the follicle is blocked.
This follicle blocking causes hair loss. Once the follicle is blocked, continued use of essential oil on the scalp kills the follicle, often permanently.
The only thing that I believe Monique Rodriguez messed up on is not acknowledging the role of the essential oils in her products.
Good morning,
Thank you for this!
Using essential oils is definitely a balancing act.
From what I understand the reason many people loved Mielle was because of their constant use of essential oils in their collections. Since this situation many specialized doctors have said that leaving essential oils on your scalp can be counterproductive.
I think there is room to fix this and to bounce back. I people are looking for transparency and to not be ignored.
@@KlassicallyKept I agree. Anyone following this case knows that there are thousands, if not potentially millions, of women in the comment sections talking about the same experience over and over again. That is not a coincidence.
It is very unusual for women to post vulnerable hair experiences on the Internet, because most people prefer to post their best self, or what they see as their best self.
I do not believe these women are lying. I hope she doesn't start gaslighting people. But I also feel bad for her because the level of scrutiny she is under has to be very uncomfortable and frustrating during the holiday season, when we are supposed to be thankful for each other.
I'm glad you covered this, thank you.🤍🤍
I agree about influencers having no moral compass ! Each week it’s a new product favorite that worked for them. They are to blame as well! This should tell folks not to bend their ear to others.
I have concerns about how that oil is formulated. Essential oils are typically 1-5% of a formulation, which means they should be towards the bottom of the ingredients. This percentage range is often to prevent the likelihood of irritation. Even it were 10-15% it would be towards the bottom of the ingredient list and heavily diluted. Ingredients should be listed from largest to smallest on product labels. Essential oils like tea tree, peppermint, rosemary, etc. can be extremely irritating and drying if they are not diluted properly. I haven't looked at the other products in the line. Given Monique's history with bullying influencers I am not sure I believe her. I have not used any of the products from this line.
Good morning and thank you for this. Yes the ingredients list should be in descending order and I believe what drew people Mielle was their use of essential oils only now to find out they may not have been the best to use.
As far as the bullying someone else in the community just made me aware that Mielle supporters were harassing people who were giving bad reviews. The truth of the matter is your products will not work on everyone nor will everyone like them.
There’s also a couple people on TikTok that shared the ingredients list and showed that there in fact has been changes. Idk why she doesn’t be honest and then make the proper changes instead of taking NO accountability.
I was one of the ones who experienced hair loss too. At first I thought it was prolonged postpartum shedding. I thought something was going on with me hormonally. My hair was coming out in clumps yet I was already 2 years postpartum. I even cut my hair and my hair would not stop falling out. When I saw the videos of women on TikTok sharing pictures of their hair I screamed because it was the same thing that was happening to me. I immediately stopped using Mielle’s products and switched to another brand and my hair is now thriving. I’ve never publicly talked about this so I was confused when she said the original creator was being paid by a competitor. Well what about women like me who didn’t say anything publicly but experienced the same problem?
I used the Mielle products, and I believe my hair was coming out from it. I can't be certain, but I used Mielle products consistently. This is crazy to promote products with so many claims of women's hair coming out.
I worked with the company and Monique wasn’t too “friendly” and although I was compensated it was pennies. She honestly didn’t want me on the shoot because I was plus size(I was pregnant🙄) she wasn’t “Christ like” in person or personable.
Many people have spoken about he disposition.
Nope. My hair became damaged and dry too. I think it might be her SUPPLIERS or P&G itself. That's where she needs to look for the real sabbatoge!! P&G bought it to destroy it...less competition. Black women hair is a multi billion dollars industry. Big companies do this all the time.
Why would P and G kill a money maker 😂really
P&G owns the world. Mielle is a small blip. @@beverlypatton4737
Is she delusional? I bought their entire line on Amazon, and I have receipts that I sent them all back and requested a refund because my hair started falling out in clumps. This was actually before the company was acquired. Why don't they just spend time trying to find out what part of the formula is not working and fix it? I hate people who do not accept accountability.
From a legal perspective ( I am not a lawyer lol ) I do not think PnG and/or Mielle would ever come out and say that the products are damaging peoples’ hair because that admission would mean they knowingly sold products that were detrimental, especially once several people starting coming forward.
Oh my… I started using this entire line about six weeks ago (shampoo, conditioner, hair oil, edge control). I also feel that my edges have been getting thinner, but I didn’t quite make the connection. Thanks for disclosing this… I will stop using all of those products. By the way, do you mind sharing how long you used her products before that happened to your hair?
@klassicallykept and @makedadegannes5173 There's no safety wrapping on any of her products. I always thought that was odd bc anyone could sabotage her products. 🤔
When a product goes into mass production the quality of the product is likely to be compromised. Production companies want to get the product out to as many people as possible, while the company spends as least as possible. With that being said, the ingredients may not have changed, but as you said, the quality of the product may have changed in order to cut cost. I would also be willing to bet that the formula would also change once a product goes into mass production, for example: if the oil cost more/less than aloe, the company might decide to use more aloe than oil. So, all the same ingredients are there, but just in different quantities.
You don't know. You're speculating.
I had no idea there was so much beauty drama!! I have never used Meille, & dont. Not because of this or any experience, just never got into the brand. But this is all so very interesting. Keep up your exceptional work!! Appreciate everything you share with us! ❤
Does CNN know you're out here?! 😉
lol Good morning and thank you!
For me, I just wanted to try the Rosemary line, once it did not work I looked elsewhere, no hate, but I found Briogeo.
CNN, highly doubt it lmbo.
5:53 this entire video was unprofessional and unserious. She provided no context about the influencer being “paid”. She didn’t address the fact that 100s of women have a shared experience.
I bought then returned a product from the rosemary line (conditioner I think) because it dried my hair out. And this happened a few years ago
Good morning, I am glad you were able to recognize that the conditioner dried your hair out and then your acted accordingly.
People are complaining now, but I tried it when it first launched, and it was horrendous then! My scalp was on fire. Their problems existed long before P&G.
I bought the oil it dried my hair.. I will not purchase after she and her hubby attacked that creator who spent her money and reviewed the product and got attack.. like what??
I had never heard the allegations; I bought the oil last year with other products, then realized it didn't have any type of seal. I don't like that, so I returned it unused. She should re-think her packaging and put a tight, strong seal under the cap so that you can't even get a whiff of it without breaking the seal, and the seal can't accidently come off (like TB's line).
My daughter told me about the issue being discussed here. At the time, I did not pay much attention to what she said. We both use Mielle products. I think my daughter has since stopped. However, I still do, and after listening to this video, I wonder. I always used Eco Gel and stopped because I was told that gels make your hair dry and my hair was somewhat drying. I stopped using the Eco gel and started using the Mielle coil sculpting custard in my everyday hair styling. I also use the Mielle leave-in conditioner once a week after I wash my hair. I already had thinning hair, but now my hair is thinning even more than before and excessively brittle, and I am beginning to wonder if these products may be the issue or at least part of it. I guess the only way to find out is to stop the products and see what happens. My hair is almost at a point where I have to consider wearing a wig because my scalp is exposed in areas. It would be extremely sad if this is the case. I agree with you that the company needs to address these concerns. Thanks
The thing I find about mostly all of the products that are started by LLC self starting companies ( meaning started at home) is that they are largely protein based and it is from the perspective of what worked for that particular individual’s hair. My hair tangles up with protein based products. I found that out the hard way. I applaud these entrepreneurs for starting these businesses and I would encourage them to keep growing. That being said… we have to take the feedback and grow from it and not double down on an “ our product works” position. If you want growth, you have to understand the science of our hair and that we all need different needs for our specific hair types and conditions.
Good afternoon! Thank you for this and you made a very good point. I too am interested in how this will all play out.
I think as a business owner you walk a fine line. You need to listen to your customer base but also make sure you are staying true to your company.
I have noticed this as well. Company are now including protein in a lot of their newer products.
I lost most of my hair. I was bald and diagnosed with Alopecia. I decided to research the ingredients that was being used in the products I was purchasing. In the process of losing my hair I purchased numerous well known brands that did not stop the fallout but made it worse. By the time I stopped using the well known brands my scalp was inflamed and very sore and I was bald. I think Coconut oil was one of the problems. Coconut oil clogs your pores. To make a long story short, I decided to create my own hair care products that are made with organic and natural ingredients. My hair has grown back fully and it's thick. It took awhile because I had to grow new hair follicles and heal my scalp. Instead of Coconut oil, I use Avocado Oil and other essential oils. You have to be very careful with Protein and rice water. Protein should not be used with every hair wash. Protein is a special hair treatment to be used at the most once a month or whenever your hair needs it. Because of this, my products do not have protein in them at all. I have tested rice water and other protein shampoo's and conditioners. After one or two uses, my hair started thinning and breaking really bad. I went back to my regular shampoo and conditioner which repaired the damage and I haven't used nor tried Protein products again. Maybe one day I will create a Protein Hair treatment to be used at the most once a month or every other month. My 4c hair doesn't seem to need protein nor the rice water. It's thriving and growing without it.
9:29 this statement was definitely detrimental in a myriad of ways. The setting, with the noise and such in the background, her demeanor- she appeared petulant in the way she was responding. She didn’t take a moment to gather herself, it seemed as if she was reading a myriad of comments and then turned the camera on and responded. And it does FEEL like she’s not being transparent or listening to the consumers’ concerns.
I will say I don’t have a dog in this fight when it comes to the usage of the products. I literally purchased my first bottle of the rosemary oil days before seeing your first video on this topic. Social media can make or break a business and we as the consumers do need a bit more from Monique concerning the situation. The best line of this was “two truths can be true” because that is soooo real.
Good morning.
I myself tried the rosemary oil and it was not for me. Since then I have not tried any Mielle products as I have found others that work for me.
I think for many people they feel unheard but at the same time want to champion and continue to support the company because many people have gotten great results.
@@KlassicallyKept I completely agree. And her other lines don’t seem to be having any issues.
I remember them even acquiring Ms. Linda's address and personal information, which is insane. Ms. Monique was also in the comments of her video and was very unprofessional to me.
I was not aware that they also obtained her address. Out of line.
@KlassicallyKept I remember her saying that, which means they had to access her order to do so and that is just scary.
Going after an influencer is a dangerous game; you can't, one would think, enjoy the relatively free promotion that comes from influencers when they give a favourable review but then alledge foul play when things don't go your company's way. Rodriguez has form with unprofessionalism if not plain gangsterism when it comes to negative reviews. She could be pulling a Drake here.
She's lame and I'm disappointed her attorney told her this was smart. She isn't likeable or trustworthy. She thought she would just win because she is a woman of color regardless of the quality.
You have made a great point.
You cannot have it both ways.
Influencer or not there are women and/or men who Mielle will not work for. That's business.
Hello Mya I used the Rosemary oil and it made my scalp inch so I didn’t buy it again . The Mielle Pomegranate &Honey leave in conditioner worked well for me. I believe that Rosemary line just doesn’t work on some peoples hair.Thanks for sharing.💜🌹
Of course! Yes! All products will not work for everyone. I am glad that you found a collection that worked for you !
It “not working” is very different from causing harm.
Great vid, Mya! You said several things here that are important to consider. A class-action lawsuit has been officially filed 11/21/24 against Mielle & P&G. Regarding the other big box brands you mentioned who've also had lawsuits filed - as a professional who researches ingredients. It's the ingredients. It's ALWAYS the ingredients and how they interact with an individuals body chemistry. The short end of it is the amount of time it takes toxins to build up in a persons system and cause symptoms varies which can only happen with the presence of toxic ingredients. The presence of skin (scalp) irritants also plays a significant role. Start looking at the labels of the brands with lawsuits closer and see what ingredients they have in common then look those ingredients up. What I know for sure is the discovery phase of lawsuits includes public sources like all the videos and the comments under them and this is where the truth resides and there are thousands of affected people sharing their experiences. I stopped using and recommending Mielle products to my clients in 2019 when I noticed harmful ingredients creeping in to the products. May we all be safe out here because Mielle & P&G are just the most recent and far from the only ones. Godspeed!
Good morning and thank you for this !
I only used the oils from Mielle because my hair didn't care for the leave-ins. I loved the way initially the Rosemary & Mint made my scalp feel, but after about 20-30 minutes my scalp would become itchy and inflammed. I tried it multiple situations (freshly washed, prepoo-poo scalp treatment, hot oil treatment, etc) however I always had the same reaction. So my thinking is my scalp is sensitive in something in the formulation - which can happen to anyone with any product they try.
Me too, I have locs and used the edge control to retwist my hair after washing as well as the oil dropper on my scalp. My scalp was itching all the time could figure out why. Saw these videos stopped using them and now I’m good. Something isn’t right with it, all the itching started a year after.
I'm glad I found this channel. I thought my hairloss was isolated. I have been bouncing back for a year now when I made the connection. I stopped using the product, and my hair is finally showing life again. I was losing clumps of hair. Months after separating from the product, the hairless stopped. I have. a long way to go before I see my length return, but I can see the bounce back.
@@shawneedee8501 😮
My daughter and I have had a good experience with Mielle. I started using it in Dec 2023 (after it was sold). I use almost every product in the rosemary mint line-some daily, some weekly etc. The front of my hair (where I was mostly applying the oil to strengthen my edges and grow my hair back from damage) has grown so much, it almost looks fake lol. But I agree with you - I do not like the way the brand responded to this and I especially agree “everyone cannot be lying”.
I’m probably going to try the sunny isle rosemary mint oil next because I’ve heard good things about it, but I’ll continue to use the rosemary mint line because it works for me/my daughter and we have been using it for a year. I swear my daughter has the longest thickest 4b hair of a 3 year old ever lol
Both my daughter and I lost a lot of my hair while using this product. I thought it was strange that a product that worked for us all of a sudden was working against us, only to find out that the product was acquired by a big corporation that changed the original formula.
Happy holidays I'm glad you touching based on this topic! I experienced hair loss using the rosemary line . Quality integrity and accountability is very important in the end of the day in this situation.
It is very important.
I think Mielle can bounce back but first they have to address peoples' concerns.
I hope you are on your way to recovering !
I started growing my hair from a TWA in August of 2023. I purchased the Rosemary Mielle line several months in. I experienced excessive shedding, and that was before I knew of any controversy about Mielle. I had also purchased the oil to apply to my edges. It did not help my edges, in fact, it hindered them. At that point I stopped using Mielle. I had also purchased the Mielle product in the red bottle. I stopped using all of the Mielle products, then I noticed the controversy. For Ms Rodriquez to not even mention that there had been many reports of people experiencing hair loss from her products is suspect in my opinion. I am loyal to any product that helps my hair and does what I purchased it to do. It makes no sense to me to be loyal to a product that is causing my hair to fall out. I have no obligation to be loyal to her. The whole sabotage story? I don't believe it. She doesn't seem to be concerned about her customers. She seems to lack empathy. Just my opinion.
I used the Mielle rosemary deep conditioner once and it was a little drying, but not the worst thing I ever tried. Didn’t like it enough to use again. My mother and aunt however both suffered severe hair loss and are still recovering.
The Rosemary Mint is a strengthening set! Just like a adding protein to strengthen hair once or twice per month! I use Mielle products and its actually working to strengthen my hair for growth. Her Rosemary Mint set should be use in place of a protein treatment, if you prefer! That’s how strong it is! If used too often for weekly or biweekly shampooing, yes, Rosemary Mint Strengthening will dry out your hair, just like a protein treatment! If using the Oil on scalp, make sure it washed out to within 1 hour or after overnight to avoid scalp irritation. So be cautious and use Mielle products for your hair concerns. I hope what stated here helps someone in their hair journey! Thank you sharing! Sharing is caring!😊❤
Although this might be true, on the the label it does not specify your claim. Regardless of what you saying if it is not on the label in how to use it of course it will thin your hair out. I too had the rosemary mint shampoo and conditioner. I wanst sure if was taking my hair our and once i stop using it my hair had less shedding. I personally thought it was due to me being peri-menopause. Her response he is is not taking accountable, gaslighting peoples experiences and no apology given to those have experience her products in this manner. S/B not all products work for everyone. I loved Motions and their whole entire line come to find out with my wrap underneath my shoulder length hair I was bald and the only change was using the Motions line. Please know that this right here is nonsense and why ppl on her saying they will no longer support. I have heard not 1 apology to customers this is where consumers really have a problem no real accountable or care about what her product did but blaming "a competitor" lile she the only black line out here STOP IT 🙄🙄🙄
Went through my hair care products and threw out the few Mielle products I had. Taking no chances.
I big chopped my hair a year ago and i’m VERY familiar with ingredients in hair products and my mom is a stylist so I’m familiar with hair products and I was making my own products until I got lazy. After my big chop I didn’t use the same products with each hair wash because I was trying to find out what gives me the slippage that I like so one week I unfortunately used the Miele products and noticed one section of my hair looked a totally different texture and it stayed like that for months so I paid extra close attention to that section and gave it extra tlc. Also when i used the Miele products I was combing what i thought to be shedding but it was big balls of hair. I thought ok i don’t comb through it on a regular so it must be ok. If it wasn’t for the difference in texture like an over processed relaxer (cotton like )I wouldn’t have thought twice about Miele but that didn’t sit right so I gave it to my mom’s friend who insisted I just wanted to throw away money and I was crazy. Ask me why I saw her last month with PATCHES of hair missing?? I forgot all about her taking the products until I saw a video about a woman’s hair falling out and Miele products because I thought my hair that didn’t work with it. I asked my moms friend what she’s been using and she said “The products you were throwing away” What’s sad is her products are costly and just because of the price she assumed that it’s automatically good. I just shook my head and sent her a few videos and told her to remember I told her something wasn’t right with this brand but she said I was WASTING MONEY by just throwing it away. But I believe these women 💯%
Thank you for your thoughts on this catastrophe. Regarding defamation lawsuits and going public as far as I can recall what your saying is true unless P&G and/or Mielle enters into a settlement with the offenders. In that case there’s a clause of non disclosure in the agreement and it would never be made public. We as the public would never know. This is often the case with high profile lawsuits. The case suddenly goes away. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts in a dignified manner. Looking forward to seeing more!
Good morning and thank you.
Okay, so I was thinking along the correct lines.
I am very curious about how this is going to play out
@ Me too!
I used the Mielle Rosemary Mint and Peony conditioner took almost all of my hair out. My scalp was so inflamed and full of scabs. 😞
I have a large bald spot and scarring with sores ... I have been using Mielle products. 😢
All I heard was Monique commanding black women to do free promo for her and her multi-billion dollar P&G owned company on the basis of her dubious allegation. Looking at the support she has she clearly has many women that will do this.
I’ve been natural for 6 years now, I have very thick 4c hair. My braider has been the only besides me touching my hair since the summer of 2022. Recently she done my hair twice in one month. She pointed out that my hair was thinning.I was only using mielle from the shampoo, conditioner, hair mask, oil even the edge control. My hair hasn’t thinned since 2020 when I was using cantu.
I experienced crown and edge hair loss after a month of use, but with all fairness, shortly after trying Mielle I tried As I Am Rosemary spray and had scalp irritation. It could simply be rosemary for me or the Mielle formulation started the irritation.
I used the rosemary mint oil and I noticed hair fall out. I thought it was because my hair is bleached. I started using more of the rosemary mint oil to combat the hair loss. My hair continued to fall out with a bald spot forming. Then I heard something about the Mielle products causing hair loss. So I stopped using the hair oil. Guess what? My bald spot filled in and my hair grew back. I am not saying that her oil directly caused the fall out, but I am not going to chance using the oil again. Some people say that it works well for their hair.
I wish they would do some type of testing, paying ppl to test their products to determine if there is in fact a problem with their products. BTW, your skin is looking so milky and glowy. Beautiful. 😍
I became aware of the issues with Miele a few short months ago, on this channel. I am glad I did. I tried the Rosemary Mielle a couple years ago. I was surprised at all the hype about the hair care line. My hair was dry and tangled, just like the lady’s hair in the video; my hair is shorter. I was so disappointed and concerned because my hair is colored.
Over a lot of time, I ended up mixing the remaining Mielle products with other products on my hair, and used it to wash my hairbrushes, combs, satin cap etc., so it wouldn’t be a total loss. I kept the bottle the oil came in, but I use it to mix my own concoctions.
I just remembered, I tried the regular Mielle before the Rosemary, maybe a few years prior, and had a similar, but a little better result. My hair is medium length, 4C, and colored with a rinse. The product that I am currently using works wonders on my hair type, and I’m glad I found it. Perhaps my hair texture was just not conducive to Mielle’s ingredients/brand.
Actually, in the past, store bought products yielded better results than Mielle, for me. Thanks so much, KK for staying on top of this saga. BTW, I don’t believe this case will see the light of a trial. Monique and Mielle’s current owners DO NOT want that deposition smoke. BUT, I could be wrong… Reciprocally, I would enjoy eating popcorn and sipping tea, watching you editorialize every detail.☺️ Keep up the great work, KK!
wow I had no idea any of this was happening. I am Latina and like the rosemary oil. I felt it helped me when my hair was growing back post chemo. now hearing the allegations of harassment , makes me not want to support it and find an alternate rosemary oil
Black people go hard to speak against this line but they don't fight the people who make these relaxers and other products that cause Cancer is a trip to me. Serious PTSD
THIS!!!
Full transparency, my hair LOVES the pomegranate and honey shampoo, conditioner, and curl smoothie. I also really like the biotin edge control. I will be honest and say I’ve tried other products from Mielle including her hair vitamins and hated it!!! But that’s why I stopped using those things immediately! I also noticed some shedding with the smoothie before but I use other products to combat that. Seeing all this drama surrounding her products is disheartening, but I’m on the side of the truth. May it always prevail.
I feel bad for all involved. If you experienced hair damage because of her products, you have a right to voice that. Monique has a right to defend her brand, if, as she says, her products have not changed and are deemed to be safe. I do implore anyone experiencing hair damage and who attributes it to Mielle's products to go to a dermatologist to get confirmation and/or to rule out other issues.
Great advice!
Hair products are just like medicines, it affects everyone differently. So, if I’m not having any issues with a product I will keep using it. If I see that it no longer works, then I will move on to another product.
Great point!
This explains so much 😡😡😡. My hair was so thin.
I used the Rosemary line one time and returned it. It made my hair dry as well. The pomegranate and honey never gave me issues, but I stopped using after hearing all of this. I really dislike when companies are bought out, yes it’s good for us, but not so much for the consumer. I used to use Carol’s Daughter back in the day too
Monica girl my hair started falling out I stopped using it my hair went back to normal. We can’t all be tripping. You can even tell in the look of her hair when she first started Mielle vs now. Her hair was healthier looking before she sold the company. Sigh
I've noticed that awhile ago, hee hair doesn't look as healthy & long.
lol that is not my business , but some have commented this as well.
The only sabotage involving myself is when I decided to try the Mielle Rosemary and Mint rinse-out conditioner the one time and my hair immediately matted up like one big dreadlock and I had to shave my waist-length hair all off.
So if you are a content creator, of course you can be paid by a competitor because you are probably reviewing many competing products. This felt weak to me.
I think for a lot of people the statement made the situation worse.
Yes! As a content creator you get paid by a company to do a review and/or promote their latest product. The problem Monique is claiming while the creator was promoting a competitors products she was bad mouthing Mielle. I would hope this was not written into the creator contract.
I am curious, should there be a lawsuit, how this plays out in court.
*Case in point, Marlena Stell was the one that revealed this secret more than 5 years ago that influencers can be paid a lot of money to trash competitors products and influencers can do no wrong in their fans eyes.*
I have not had any issues with the product. But I don't use the Rosemary Mint line. I am keeping a close eye on how my hair behaves, and if I see any issues, I will discontinue use of their products. I am still rooting for Monique, and I hope she's taking this seriously.
And that is perfectly fine!
I also think that for the people that the products worked for they should not be harassed.
Like you said you will keep an eye on your hair.
We also have to be intention abput herbal products. Theres a reason why herbalist plant match to make sure that herb is for you and your makeup. Not everyone can use every herb. It's medicine ultimately.
This is true as well. Herbs can be powerful.
Hi! Another good video! I have a question. Since you now talk about natural hair how can “the natural hair dictionary” out recent self published book be included in a video? Thanks❤
Thank you.
I am not aware of this book, but I will check it out.
I bought the product shampoo and conditioner after the P&G purchase and it dried my hair and scalp. The only difference was hair product so Mielle is a no for me.
This is unfortunate. Many people had stated their hair was dry after using the products.
Nope! I stopped using immediately & removed them for now. 😢
I think many people are still apprehensive
I lost a lot of hair using the rosemary mint collection and thought it was because of my thyroid issues. I've had thyroid issues for years, but my hair never fell out in clumps. It now makes sense.
I stopped using Mielle products years ago because the fragrances were too strong and gave me migraines. But in the meantime my daughter started using the products in the green bottle. She was away at school and her scalp became very inflamed and her hair started to fall out in clumps.
She has eczema and her scalp was oozing from what I say are scalp burns. And it affected her skin on her face and down her ears and neck.
But I hadn’t heard about the controversy at this point. I asked her what products she had been using, so I looked into it AFTER this happened to my daughter and saw all things going on. I immediately told her to throw all the products out from Mielle.
I never thought to take pictures because I felt like there wouldn’t be a way for me to prove it was those products.
But I’ve been natural since 2008 and know how to evaluate products without the mass hysteria of what social media says is good or bad.
I used a very popular gel for years that others raved about and I used to love…but I noticed my scalp and neck started to burn and broke out in red bumps when I used it one day.
I also noticed the smell changed.
I was sad about it but threw the gel out. I haven’t used it anymore. I didn’t say anything about it until I went to a natural hair stylist and told her my experience. She confirmed to me that it wasn’t my imagination because she also had a reaction to that popular gel and told me the ingredient that changed was a preservative.
I have since learned that ‘fragrance’ can be used to hide a multitude of dangerous chemicals in products.
So anytime I get a reaction from a product I stop using it right away. It really doesn’t matter if it claims to be ‘natural’ or not.
Grew my natural hair for 5 years. Used only the rosemary oil during a trip, daily (as stated we can/should do…). Came home and my hair was broken off in so many places that I shaved It to a buzz cut…Rosemary needs to be properly diluted and the formula, clearly, is off.
This is very interesting. It made me smile. I agree, one does not lead to the next because the original influencer was lying, doesn't mean everyone is lying. Well, it is clear what the legal strategy is to discredit the source, which would cast doubt on the claim's legitimacy. Now, all that would have lumped themselves in this falsely will drop out, and those that are legit some would decide they do not want to go any further because of the lie. Of course, some will still go through with their case, but the strength will be diminished without a large number of claimants. Therefore, pushing forward will take a lot of work, making it time-consuming and costly. P&G and Mielle have deep pockets that can prolong this matter in court using the original lie as cause for dismissal, and the case may die a slow death if those remaining can't prove their individual claims are valid. Very interesting to see how it all plays out.
I am interested to see how this plays out as well. Great explanation lol !
Thank you for this video. I agree with what you are saying 100%. I personally have never used this product line. On my healthy hair journey over the past 19 months. I have been using less and less store bought products. What works very well for me are homemade organic Ayurvedic haircare products. I make them myself, therefore, I know exactly what are in them. Right now I use 75% homemade DIY organic products and 25% store bought products. The store bought products I use, I have been using for over 20 years and are 'ride or die' products that are not expensive at all. I started reading ingredients in haircare products over 20 years ago. I have only added one new store bought product to my regimen. Which is pricy, that I order form the UK. However, because it's a product I only use a few times per year, a bottle will last me over a year.👍😊
Good afternoon! Many people have stated they are going back to the basics or they will start DIY. With DIY you know exactly what is in your products.
Unfortunately as much as I wanted to support her company I too experienced loss of my edges and terrible hair breakage. I stopped using the product I purchased (the rosemary and mint oil) a year ago. After an intense trim my hair has grown back.
Good morning and thank you for sharing.
The Rosemary oil did not work for me as well.
I am glad you are on the road to recovery!
Not sure why everyone is all upset…..these products were never good to begin with….Every single product I tried from Mielle I gave away even paid the shipping.The absolute worst for me was the Rosemary line hair mask and the Pomegranate leave in….dry dry dry. Her products are full of glycerine so they feel nice initially. I switched to Innersense and haven’t looked back
How can you state their is a problem with the formula but still post to get commission from the sales! I’m so confused!
I also experienced some issues with their products as of late. Threw away all my Mielle Rosemary Mint Shampoo/products! 😢
I'm a man and I started growing my hair out May 2023 and only used Mielle shampoo, conditioner, Leave in conditioner, and deep conditioner. Unfortunately, my hair would come out in clumps just on shampooing. Once I used a pic, more came out. Those are the only products I used the reason why I agree with everyone else.
Talking about wanting the best for someone while not acknowleding what you are responsible for in what hurt them is not acceptable.
I recently was gifted the Mielle Pomegranate Conditioner and Leave-In, I haven’t incorporated the products into my routine yet but due to hearing about all of this, I’m curious. I’ve wondered if I should create a careful routine to test how the products react to my hair or if I shouldn’t risk it and should discard?
I would say if you already have products that are working for you to stick with them.
If you want to try the products keep a very close eye on your hair.
This is my first video of yours and I just want to say I can tell you are whip smart. Very impressed by how you say what needs to be said while keeping it really classy and balanced. Keep doing what you’re doing!!!
I never heard of Mielle Product until this year Essence Fest in New Orleans! I got a few of the products, and started using them. I too started experiencing my hair falling out and thinning. It was alarming. I didn’t know what could have been the cause until I started seeing videos about the product causing hair loss. I thought this could be the problem. I discontinued using the product and when back to my regular routine of doing my hair. Less, then no breakage and thinning of my hair. I had to cut off a considerable portion of my hair due to damage and thinning. My hair is getting stronger and healthier since I stopped using the products!
I am a woman that pays attention to my body and what I put in it or on it. So I notice when something is off, I tried their leave in conditioner one time my hair became hard and brittle. I stopped using their brand immediately.
That's s like, my hair was damaged after using the oil, shampoo and deep conditioner. My hair was matted,, breakage..I need answers 😢
Some people don't read labels and instructions, others misuse things. Overuse can have adverse effects. Some of the products might not have been stored by the distributers at the proper temperature causing the product to develop mold. Mielle needs to investigate where those people who claim damage purchased their products. Some people might have purchased dupes. I have suspected some of my hair products from amazon to be dupes. I have even purchased tried and true products from Target that damaged my hair. One particular product from Target which went on sale for a very cheap price, dried my hair out causing severe breakage, this is what sent me natural. My stylist said, the product went on sale because Target had them sitting in their hot warehouse probably for years way beyond their reccommended shelf life. If products are not stored at the appropriate temperature for extended periods of time, it can cause chemical changes in the formula. Mielle should investigate this issue with their distributors and retailors and not disregard customer complaints.
Good morning this is true as well about misuse and overuse.
You make a great point: and this extends to many products on Amazon. Many people have speculated that some things bought on Amazon may be counterfeit.
Good morning! You make very good points!
Many people even outside of hair care have speculated that some of the products being sold on Amazon are counterfeit.
I stand behind my experience and I stopped using it before it surfaced as a public issue.
I used Mielle when I was still experimenting and was scammed into the whole “natural kinky curly hair care products” debacle and the mousse is the only product that seemed to work for my hair. I never recommended this brand to anyone but gave it as an option because each person’s hair is different. It completely dried my hair out!
My middle daughter use to use these products so faithful but the last big buy she did, there was something different about the products. She called me crying because her hair was dry and she was having breakage and thinning around the front. She was 26 at this time.
It can’t be rumors because for two weeks before I saw any video on it I kept telling my sister that something’s wrong with my hair like I can’t get my hair back to. It’s soft texture and then it was just shedding and shedding and shedding and I cry myself on the fact that I take care of my natural hair these last two years and it doesn’t shedso I don’t care about some famous TikTok or what she says. I care about my hair falling out just like everybody else I’m sure.
Mielle sold their brand to Proctor and Gamble the same as Carol's Daughter. When this happened, I believe P & G added ingredients to stretch the product and whatever that was it is caused hair loss. I've been using Mielle's since 2018 and I NEVER had a problem with hair loss but I did stop using it once people started to complain. I heard great reviews on Cecred brand. I will order the trial size and see how that goes because I need the extra moisture in my hair in the winter.
My thing is should the word organic even still be used in the product line and then how much did Proctor and Gamble change the formulas because that is so well-known that they change the formulas so I wish there had been a comparison done here
My first thought was that this is just another attempt to save the brand. I can tell you, my hair started to fall out. I used the pomegranate line, and my hair got so dry, and I experienced breakage. My husband used the gel, and his hair started thinning. So I stopped.
I've been natural since birth, so I know my hair.
One thing to remember is that once these products change ownership or whatever, the formulas change, and they are no longer good for black hair!
Owners will also change formulas to cut cost on products. I stopped using Cantu because mine was falling out. I use Yuka to test products now.
My daughter said it gave her a lot of breakage. We got it in a beauty box 😢