As a someone who likes Japanese knives I ws shocked when I saw the scissor blades have a hardness of 61HRC. I only saw one one Japanese knife with that hardness. So I bought a perfect pruning combination with the middle Okatsune pruners and the Silly Gomboy 210 curves which both fit perfectly in the double stacked Okatsune scabbard. The Gomboy curved is perfect for tight spots because the saw is narrower at the tip. And when I have both in one scabbard I always have the best tool on hand for the job.
@@edibleacres Its all about the hardness of the steel this is a cut test of a even harder knife. th-cam.com/video/m5LWXXz2pHI/w-d-xo.html When the steel is harder the edge doesn't wear out that fast but it gets normally more brittle. That's why Japanese toolsmith normally put the hard steel in the middle to cut and sandwich it in softer steel that doesn't brake.
So funny that I'm not the first person to tell you that you have perfect timing! I guess it makes sense that everyone is thinking about what they need for spring. I was planning on getting the more entry level Felco 5, but I love how low maintenance the Okatsunes are. I hope you'll do more videos like this because I trust your opinions. I'm also in the market for a small hatchet and a hori hori if you have any recommendations for those! By the way, I don't know how other people feel but I wouldn't be offended if you put affiliate links in the description. I think eBay even has an affiliate program if you want to encourage people to buy secondhand. It wouldn't offend me if you had an Amazon link either. I know I would feel good knowing that you got a little bit of the money I spend.
I appreciate you being supportive of the affiliate idea, but I am happy to shy away from it. Definitely 100% I would never do it with Amazon, that company is evil. Ebay is where we shop online for this kind of stuff but even then I wonder what they are up to... I'll do more tool videos as time allows :)
Hands down my favorite as well. I lent mine to someone once and they really screwed em up, but they sharpened back up nicely I was so impressed! My next pair will be for my hands only. They may have never needed sharpening otherwise.
I bought a few extra pairs still in the packaging to treat myself some day :) I bought as many as I'd think I'd need in a lifetime before I made this video, ha!
@@edibleacres smart man! Ill be doing the same now that I know just what these little fellas can do. Looking forward to determining which pair of larger caliper pruners will be able to match these.
I also like my Okatsune's the best. But I find the biggest issue is the slippery plastic handles. When doing multiple quick cuts, I find my hand slides up the levers and I lose leverage. I added some wraps of electrical tape to provide more gription, but it only lasts a few months before I need to re-wrap. I also found the blades are sharp and somewhat brittle (Okatsune uses some of the strongest steel in the industry) and my pair has some pits where I tried to cut oversize old wood (my fault, but never had that happen with my Felcos, Coronas or Fiskars). Blades stay relatively sharp, but I quickly tune them up everytime I use them to bring back that near-razor sharp edge). For ~$30 on Amazon, a great value-for-money.
Thanks for the demonstration, I also use felco 2's. After seeing this I will look into some Okatsune's. That many cuts and still going strong without maintenance and sharpening is a pretty sweet thing. Many times the more simply designed tool is more effective, easier to maintain and more fun to use. Thanks!
If you've bought Okatsune,may you answer some question?They are:1)Which one(Okatsune v Felco)is more durable? 2)whose blade needs less sharpening? 3) which one(Okatsune or Felco) has better cutting? 4)what plant are you pruning by your Okatsune & Felco?
@@edibleacres1)Which one(Okatsune v Felco)is more durable? 2)whose blade needs less sharpening? 3) which one(Okatsune or Felco) has better cutting? 4)what plant are you pruning by your Okatsune & Felco?
Great video! Could you provide a link or two... or at lease show what the packaging looks like? I've been searching and the packaging I see most often is, I believe, a fake. I'm thinking I need the small or maybe the medium. Not having much luck finding them. I would also like to avoid Amazon if possible. Thank you! :)
My favorites close just like that. Indont know what brand they are but Japanese steel so maybe the same brand so now I know if I have to replace them,but I doubt I will need to because they have lasted 10 years easy so far. I hate the thumb latches compared to the simplicity of the bottom latch that is hands free.
I got felco 6 pruners which are a little smaller,. I also have english sequetuers burgon and ball pocket pruner. These are my favorite for the roses. Felco 2 for my mature trees. I always wanted to try the Japanese ones and also the French ones.
Anyone who has these, do you ever get pinched in between the handles and the spring? Also - I appreciate this kind of video, if you'd ever like to describe how you take care of your pruning tools, that would be awesome. I think you said that you use mineral oil after cleaning them?
Yikes, I wouldn't be the person to show best practice on maintenance... did you see the pruners in this video! I run em ruff. . I know I need to improve that.
Great comparison, thank you for posting! I've read many owner reviews comment how the handles lack grip and even in the dry their hands tend to slide up the handles. Anyone experience this?
Hi. You should take a look at the Bahco P3 - full forged metal handles, simple spring, and the same kind of latch than the Okasune that Ilearnt to appreciate like you did. Spare piece available, professionnal stuff. cons : quite heavy.
I’m reading folks complaining of the metal rusting within a month, not even wet. Are you doing anything special in taking care of them? Thanks! I have yet to find a good pair of pruners for my small hands. Want to buy these and/or the felcos. Also that the handles are slippery.
No special care and they have been excellent for me. Maybe there are different batches out there or more humid climates? So far I've just been really happy with them.
@@edibleacres thanks! Ordered! Coming from Japan. Bezos is a thief and he’s getting a cut of this purchase and so is the Opossum Society of California 😁 I will balance out by buying a pair of felcos locally. Need good pruners everywhere.
Gotta admit - any time I see you recommend a product I trust that recommendation 100% so.... yup I found some on ebay too :) I had been thinking I need to get some better ones... all my pruners currently are either from the early 2000s or older, or else they're Aldi brands :) which work fine unless I'm trying to do scion wood, because they do crush the branches at the cut point a bit and that's not good at all when I'm thinking about making a little bit of an attempt at grafting!
It seems silly on camera but in day to day use it really adds up to many additional seconds I can spend watching videos of kittens doing cute things on youtube at night.
@@edibleacres Since they snap open, you perform one less awkward movement which may mean less arthritis or tendonitus someday, as I see in and have been advised about by older gardeners.
I'm buying these on your recommendation. For those in the UK: It's £30 if you buy from amazon.co.jp including international shipping instead of £45 from the German seller on amazon.co.uk.
After a decade of use, I still prefer these to any other pruners. In addition to the lock trick you showed, I've also found that you can easily operate the lock with your pinky or ring finger, which is handy sometimes.
I hate these pruners because of the locking mechanism...basically they lock when you don't want them to lock, and it takes two hands to lock them in spite the video showing the quick draw. They are sharp though if you can stand the aggravation.
Oh-Kat-soon-aye, thanks I've been calling them Ock-soons for years, haha. I gave my sticky, soft felco 2's to my employees. I hated the non-dampened snap of the Okasunes when you complete a cut compared to my felcos. But they hold an edge much longer and cut so clean. It's superior high carbon steel for sure
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finally someone with honest opinion really helped me thank u :)
absolutely! exhaust other options before shopping on Amazon! Thanks for shaing okatsune info
Glad you are with us on that. Bezos' personal wealth probably went up $80,000 in the time it took for us to write our two comments.
I’m having a terribly hard time finding these for sale anywhere other than through a Japan-based seller on Amazon. Ebay isn’t even loading properly.
Just got some in the mail through Amazon and I have doubts about their authenticity
I have a pair of Tobisho SR-1 secateurs - they look identical to the Okatsune, but I agree, they are superior to the Felco #2. Good piece of kit.
What are you pruning by your Tobisho SR-1?I s it more durable than Felco 2?Does blade of Tobisho needs less sharpening than the blade of Felco 2?
As a someone who likes Japanese knives I ws shocked when I saw the scissor blades have a hardness of 61HRC. I only saw one one Japanese knife with that hardness.
So I bought a perfect pruning combination with the middle Okatsune pruners and the Silly Gomboy 210 curves which both fit perfectly in the double stacked Okatsune scabbard.
The Gomboy curved is perfect for tight spots because the saw is narrower at the tip.
And when I have both in one scabbard I always have the best tool on hand for the job.
I don't know the science but I can say they are super sharp and somehow magically want to stay sharp.
@@edibleacres Its all about the hardness of the steel this is a cut test of a even harder knife.
th-cam.com/video/m5LWXXz2pHI/w-d-xo.html
When the steel is harder the edge doesn't wear out that fast but it gets normally more brittle. That's why Japanese toolsmith normally put the hard steel in the middle to cut and sandwich it in softer steel that doesn't brake.
So funny that I'm not the first person to tell you that you have perfect timing! I guess it makes sense that everyone is thinking about what they need for spring. I was planning on getting the more entry level Felco 5, but I love how low maintenance the Okatsunes are. I hope you'll do more videos like this because I trust your opinions. I'm also in the market for a small hatchet and a hori hori if you have any recommendations for those!
By the way, I don't know how other people feel but I wouldn't be offended if you put affiliate links in the description. I think eBay even has an affiliate program if you want to encourage people to buy secondhand. It wouldn't offend me if you had an Amazon link either. I know I would feel good knowing that you got a little bit of the money I spend.
I appreciate you being supportive of the affiliate idea, but I am happy to shy away from it. Definitely 100% I would never do it with Amazon, that company is evil. Ebay is where we shop online for this kind of stuff but even then I wonder what they are up to...
I'll do more tool videos as time allows :)
Hands down my favorite as well.
I lent mine to someone once and they really screwed em up, but they sharpened back up nicely I was so impressed! My next pair will be for my hands only.
They may have never needed sharpening otherwise.
I bought a few extra pairs still in the packaging to treat myself some day :)
I bought as many as I'd think I'd need in a lifetime before I made this video, ha!
@@edibleacres smart man! Ill be doing the same now that I know just what these little fellas can do. Looking forward to determining which pair of larger caliper pruners will be able to match these.
I also like my Okatsune's the best. But I find the biggest issue is the slippery plastic handles. When doing multiple quick cuts, I find my hand slides up the levers and I lose leverage. I added some wraps of electrical tape to provide more gription, but it only lasts a few months before I need to re-wrap. I also found the blades are sharp and somewhat brittle (Okatsune uses some of the strongest steel in the industry) and my pair has some pits where I tried to cut oversize old wood (my fault, but never had that happen with my Felcos, Coronas or Fiskars). Blades stay relatively sharp, but I quickly tune them up everytime I use them to bring back that near-razor sharp edge). For ~$30 on Amazon, a great value-for-money.
Thanks for the additional layer of though there, much appreciated
I put grip tape on the handles. Makes a big difference. Need to glue the edges down though.
+1 for Okatsune pruners they really are good and a great companion for a Silky saw!
That would be a great combo.
Thanks for the demonstration, I also use felco 2's. After seeing this I will look into some Okatsune's. That many cuts and still going strong without maintenance and sharpening is a pretty sweet thing. Many times the more simply designed tool is more effective, easier to maintain and more fun to use. Thanks!
Love my felco number 2s and love these even more :)
If you've bought Okatsune,may you answer some question?They are:1)Which one(Okatsune v Felco)is more durable? 2)whose blade needs less sharpening? 3) which one(Okatsune or Felco) has better cutting? 4)what plant are you pruning by your Okatsune & Felco?
@@edibleacres1)Which one(Okatsune v Felco)is more durable? 2)whose blade needs less sharpening? 3) which one(Okatsune or Felco) has better cutting? 4)what plant are you pruning by your Okatsune & Felco?
We will have to give these a try. Thanks!
Hope you enjoy
Bought some Felco 8 when I planted my orchard. I really like them, but will def look into these.
Ha! I was just ready to sit down with my tool catalog! Your timing is incredible.
A tip : watch series at instaflixxer. Been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Jad Casen Yea, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself :)
Great video! Could you provide a link or two... or at lease show what the packaging looks like? I've been searching and the packaging I see most often is, I believe, a fake. I'm thinking I need the small or maybe the medium. Not having much luck finding them. I would also like to avoid Amazon if possible. Thank you! :)
My favorites close just like that. Indont know what brand they are but Japanese steel so maybe the same brand so now I know if I have to replace them,but I doubt I will need to because they have lasted 10 years easy so far. I hate the thumb latches compared to the simplicity of the bottom latch that is hands free.
Yeah, it seemed strange and annoying at first until I understood the design.
Just ordered the okatsune over the felco. Hoping they do well this season. Thanks for the review
How did they do? Also which model number? Seem to be a few different models and prices.
@@airbornepizza ended up trying them for 2 full days and they just didn't come close to felco 2.
@@mephistopheles7377 the action seems nice, but I imagine the felcos feel sturdier.
@@airbornepizza they are definitely high quality but I love that I can easily take the felcos apart and clean them.
@@mephistopheles7377 good to know, I appreciate it
I got felco 6 pruners which are a little smaller,. I also have english sequetuers burgon and ball pocket pruner. These are my favorite for the roses. Felco 2 for my mature trees. I always wanted to try the Japanese ones and also the French ones.
Sounds like you have some nice options there.
Anyone who has these, do you ever get pinched in between the handles and the spring? Also - I appreciate this kind of video, if you'd ever like to describe how you take care of your pruning tools, that would be awesome. I think you said that you use mineral oil after cleaning them?
Yikes, I wouldn't be the person to show best practice on maintenance... did you see the pruners in this video! I run em ruff. . I know I need to improve that.
good timing, i was just searching for a new pair of hand pruners as mine broke the other day,, thank you
I hope they serve you beautifully
I didn't know Okatsune was popular overseas until now...
I use it too, it's goat.
Love that quick draw samurai manoeuvre. Weirdly can hear how sharp they are when you cut. Thanks for sharing I’m off to buy some Japanese steel. 👍🏼✂️
Great comparison, thank you for posting!
I've read many owner reviews comment how the handles lack grip and even in the dry their hands tend to slide up the handles. Anyone experience this?
I haven't had that experience at all.
How are the Okatsune saws?
I haven't worked with them so I can't say. I'd expect they would be nice
I love this info!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi. You should take a look at the Bahco P3 - full forged metal handles, simple spring, and the same kind of latch than the Okasune that Ilearnt to appreciate like you did. Spare piece available, professionnal stuff. cons : quite heavy.
Thanks for sharing this option!
Price??
great video. thanks so much
How do you get the spring out?
I'm not sure if I've ever done that...
How much??
I’m reading folks complaining of the metal rusting within a month, not even wet. Are you doing anything special in taking care of them? Thanks! I have yet to find a good pair of pruners for my small hands. Want to buy these and/or the felcos. Also that the handles are slippery.
No special care and they have been excellent for me. Maybe there are different batches out there or more humid climates? So far I've just been really happy with them.
@@edibleacres thanks! Ordered! Coming from Japan. Bezos is a thief and he’s getting a cut of this purchase and so is the Opossum Society of California 😁 I will balance out by buying a pair of felcos locally. Need good pruners everywhere.
I finally received these from Japan and wow are these amazing!! Thank you!
Gotta admit - any time I see you recommend a product I trust that recommendation 100% so.... yup I found some on ebay too :) I had been thinking I need to get some better ones... all my pruners currently are either from the early 2000s or older, or else they're Aldi brands :) which work fine unless I'm trying to do scion wood, because they do crush the branches at the cut point a bit and that's not good at all when I'm thinking about making a little bit of an attempt at grafting!
I hope you find these pruners to be borderline magic :)
@@edibleacres Thank you!!
haha quickdraw! fastest clippers in the northeast
It seems silly on camera but in day to day use it really adds up to many additional seconds I can spend watching videos of kittens doing cute things on youtube at night.
@@edibleacres Since they snap open, you perform one less awkward movement which may mean less arthritis or tendonitus someday, as I see in and have been advised about by older gardeners.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
I'm buying these on your recommendation. For those in the UK: It's £30 if you buy from amazon.co.jp including international shipping instead of £45 from the German seller on amazon.co.uk.
After a decade of use, I still prefer these to any other pruners. In addition to the lock trick you showed, I've also found that you can easily operate the lock with your pinky or ring finger, which is handy sometimes.
Great to know the 10 year review stands up!
I hate these pruners because of the locking mechanism...basically they lock when you don't want them to lock, and it takes two hands to lock them in spite the video showing the quick draw. They are sharp though if you can stand the aggravation.
Wish they use ARS stainless steel on these Okatsune.
Wouldn't that be cool!
actually it's chrome plated carbon steel
Cool I just bough a pair, good looking out
Hope they work well for ya.
Oh-Kat-soon-aye, thanks I've been calling them Ock-soons for years, haha. I gave my sticky, soft felco 2's to my employees. I hated the non-dampened snap of the Okasunes when you complete a cut compared to my felcos. But they hold an edge much longer and cut so clean. It's superior high carbon steel for sure
I certainly won't pretend I know how to say their name correctly!
You really need to clean your tools.