Holy cow, I so glad you’re still here! Even though I’m a subscriber the TH-cam algorithm stopped recommending your videos. I literally typed in 6am and it didnt show you, so I had assumed you had deleted your channel. Glad to see ya!
Put these same Jantzen 2.2uf Superior Z Caps in a high end tube monoblock system with an original Schiit Saga. The results are astounding with related RME ADI-2 and McIntosh LS340 (upgraded caps there earlier). Highly recommended.
OK….I have installed my V-2 ODAM Capacitors and cut out the top-plate and installed two very cool vents. Burning in the cap now….WOW! Why was I buying tubes? 😂 I will know more in 80hrs. I have decided to replace all the resistors in the input & output tube stages signal path, as well. Hope you are coming back to post impressions.
Good job. The location is slightly different on the Freya+, all four caps are grouped together between the Tube sockets and PSU electrolytics. I doubt those Jantzen caps would fit, but there are others that will, eg Mundorf EVO Oil. I used the V-Cap ODAM's, which take this Pre to the next level of performance. Bigger improvement than tube rolling. You might want to insulate the cap leads, this is essential on the ODAM's which have a metal body.
@@6AM_YT Yeh, the ODAM's having a metal body, means more cation is required than with most. I actually used Silicone sealant under mine as well, to act as a vibration damper. Talk about belt and braces.😀
Why these boutique cap manufactures like housing their caps in metal is beyond my understanding. I get that they look nice, but the whole thing is a potential short. It's weird.
Which model and capacitance for the V-Cap ODAMs did you use? Seems like a worthy upgrade. In my case, installing the Freya plus into my system caused alot of my dynamics to be lost. I believe it's filtering out the same and essentially negating the benefits of my LPS. The hope is that updating the caps will get those dynamics back. Let's see.
Kinda, sorta but unless you had them back to back in a test, you can't conclude. But I saw someone put the ODAMs in a Schiit Sage and they were very pleased.
You need a bigger soldering tip and more power applied to the tip to sustain constant heat. Which equates to constant heat at the pad. The pad or trace will sink that heat quick. Soldering wick shouldn't be a problem with more power/heat and a larger flat soldering tip.
@@6AM_YT The eutectic point of typical tin/lead (60/40) solder is about ~361F. So long as you can keep the solder liquid long enough to get the job done. ~400F at the solder tip with enough power to keep it at 400F sounds about right. More heat maybe.
Between 600-650deg F. And yes always have a beefy tip when using braid, and pre-melt some solder onto the braid. Also, your braid looked a bit too wide; the size matters. So will you share your results, or is that a secret? Best of luck!
I have 3 of these preamps. They all have a problem. Popping sounds are heard from the speakers when the volume knob is turned. Yes, from the speakers. Usually around the 12 o'clock position of the volume knob, and with many combinations of cables, sources, speakers and amps. This happened to all 3 brand-new units right out of the box. I contacted Schitt to see if there is a defect with these and all I ever got from them was the runaround. They would not give me a straight answer. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks for doing this video! Is there any physical danger involved in doing this? I am considering installing two pairs of ODAM-070: 2.2uF 400Vdc V-Cap ODAM Capacitors into my Freya +. They are smaller and will physically fit in the space better.
There's always a chance of the larger can electrolytics to still retain a charge. Assuming the amp has off for a some time to allow those caps to discharge and you don't have it plugged in while working on it, you'll should be fine.
@@6AM_YT THANKS for the response. That is what I was wondering…I can solder…but (after being a photographer for years, and using giant studio flash packs with multiple capacitors the size of coke cans, I know that capacitors are made to build up a charge and release it! 🧨), that was my concern. Really looking forward to your sound assessments after the fix! 😀
One more question. Is there a "directionality" to the installation of each capacitor. I want to do a Freya + , which is slightly different than what you are doing and I want to make sure that I install them correctly.
That's a somewhat controversial question. Most non-electrolytic caps are non-polarized, which means, they're not directional. However, some people will make the case that it matters, not to basic function but to the sound quality. The idea is that, if you conceptualize a cap as a roll of tinfoil that has a lead connected to the start of the roll (the inner foil) and the end of the roll (the outer foil), that it will produce a difference in sound. All that aside, I normally just match up the direction of the writing to what was there originally and hope for the best. You don't always know which is the inner or outer foil anyway.
@@6AM_YT hmmm…yes…as I mentioned below…I plan on using ODAM-070: 2.2uF 400Vdc V-Cap ODAM Capacitors. The guy who did it posted pics of the install on a blog…so I will go with the writing on the caps as you suggest! 👍🏼 (I would post you the link, but TH-cam will not allow that! 😞)
@@bobb.9917 The outer foil connection is to the lowest impedance. In the Freya's case, the cathode connections of both triodes, on each output buffer tube (4 caps needed). This according to several manufacturers, helps reject interference.
Holy cow, I so glad you’re still here! Even though I’m a subscriber the TH-cam algorithm stopped recommending your videos. I literally typed in 6am and it didnt show you, so I had assumed you had deleted your channel. Glad to see ya!
Put these same Jantzen 2.2uf Superior Z Caps in a high end tube monoblock system with an original Schiit Saga. The results are astounding with related RME ADI-2 and McIntosh LS340 (upgraded caps there earlier). Highly recommended.
OK….I have installed my V-2 ODAM Capacitors and cut out the top-plate and installed two very cool vents.
Burning in the cap now….WOW! Why was I buying tubes? 😂 I will know more in 80hrs.
I have decided to replace all the resistors in the input & output tube stages signal path, as well.
Hope you are coming back to post impressions.
I also have the vcap odams, did you do the resistor change? I am thinking of this as well.
Which model and capacitance for the V-Cap ODAMs did you use? Seems like a worthy upgrade.
Those have big break-in times, like 300 hours or so. I wouldn't bother with any resistor change until those caps are well broken in.
As an afterthought, I might have put some tubing over the leads. It's easier to figure out when you're only watching.
Nicely done! Loved it
Good job.
The location is slightly different on the Freya+, all four caps are grouped together between the Tube sockets and PSU electrolytics. I doubt those Jantzen caps would fit, but there are others that will, eg Mundorf EVO Oil. I used the V-Cap ODAM's, which take this Pre to the next level of performance. Bigger improvement than tube rolling. You might want to insulate the cap leads, this is essential on the ODAM's which have a metal body.
The Freya gives you more options than the +. I considered insulating the leads, but they didn't come close at all to anything to bother.
@@6AM_YT Yeh, the ODAM's having a metal body, means more cation is required than with most. I actually used Silicone sealant under mine as well, to act as a vibration damper. Talk about belt and braces.😀
Why these boutique cap manufactures like housing their caps in metal is beyond my understanding. I get that they look nice, but the whole thing is a potential short. It's weird.
Which model and capacitance for the V-Cap ODAMs did you use? Seems like a worthy upgrade.
In my case, installing the Freya plus into my system caused alot of my dynamics to be lost. I believe it's filtering out the same and essentially negating the benefits of my LPS. The hope is that updating the caps will get those dynamics back. Let's see.
I did this with the VCAP ODAM and my god what an improvement. VCAP ODAM are AMAZING caps and go neck and neck with the king monster Duelunds
Kinda, sorta but unless you had them back to back in a test, you can't conclude. But I saw someone put the ODAMs in a Schiit Sage and they were very pleased.
You need a bigger soldering tip and more power applied to the tip to sustain constant heat. Which equates to constant heat at the pad. The pad or trace will sink that heat quick. Soldering wick shouldn't be a problem with more power/heat and a larger flat soldering tip.
I'm always curious about what temps people work on PCB's with. Someone recently told me 450 degrees Fahrenheit, which seems way too low to me.
@@6AM_YT The eutectic point of typical tin/lead (60/40) solder is about ~361F. So long as you can keep the solder liquid long enough to get the job done. ~400F at the solder tip with enough power to keep it at 400F sounds about right. More heat maybe.
@@roncruise4 yeah, but everything is lead free solder now.
Between 600-650deg F. And yes always have a beefy tip when using braid, and pre-melt some solder onto the braid. Also, your braid looked a bit too wide; the size matters. So will you share your results, or is that a secret? Best of luck!
I have 3 of these preamps. They all have a problem. Popping sounds are heard from the speakers when the volume knob is turned. Yes, from the speakers. Usually around the 12 o'clock position of the volume knob, and with many combinations of cables, sources, speakers and amps. This happened to all 3 brand-new units right out of the box. I contacted Schitt to see if there is a defect with these and all I ever got from them was the runaround. They would not give me a straight answer. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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Thanks for doing this video!
Is there any physical danger involved in doing this?
I am considering installing two pairs of ODAM-070: 2.2uF 400Vdc V-Cap ODAM Capacitors into my Freya +. They are smaller and will physically fit in the space better.
There's always a chance of the larger can electrolytics to still retain a charge. Assuming the amp has off for a some time to allow those caps to discharge and you don't have it plugged in while working on it, you'll should be fine.
@@6AM_YT THANKS for the response. That is what I was wondering…I can solder…but (after being a photographer for years, and using giant studio flash packs with multiple capacitors the size of coke cans, I know that capacitors are made to build up a charge and release it! 🧨), that was my concern.
Really looking forward to your sound assessments after the fix! 😀
To be safe and for piece of mind, you can discharge the capacitor with a large resistor. Like a 100ohm 5W resistor.
Great video. How's the sound now?
I’ll post a video on that in a day or two.
in solid state gear at least I prefer Wima caps over most of the high end caps, tubes is a little different and I usually prefer pio types.
One more question. Is there a "directionality" to the installation of each capacitor. I want to do a Freya + , which is slightly different than what you are doing and I want to make sure that I install them correctly.
That's a somewhat controversial question. Most non-electrolytic caps are non-polarized, which means, they're not directional. However, some people will make the case that it matters, not to basic function but to the sound quality. The idea is that, if you conceptualize a cap as a roll of tinfoil that has a lead connected to the start of the roll (the inner foil) and the end of the roll (the outer foil), that it will produce a difference in sound. All that aside, I normally just match up the direction of the writing to what was there originally and hope for the best. You don't always know which is the inner or outer foil anyway.
@@6AM_YT hmmm…yes…as I mentioned below…I plan on using ODAM-070: 2.2uF 400Vdc V-Cap ODAM Capacitors. The guy who did it posted pics of the install on a blog…so I will go with the writing on the caps as you suggest! 👍🏼 (I would post you the link, but TH-cam will not allow that! 😞)
No my link failed as well.
@@bobb.9917 The outer foil connection is to the lowest impedance. In the Freya's case, the cathode connections of both triodes, on each output buffer tube (4 caps needed). This according to several manufacturers, helps reject interference.
do you knoiw how to add an aux for the schiit hel-2? its really what i need to get done
I do not. Sorry.
not afraid of the heat that is generated from the tubes?
Nah.
One word....flux
Me want review. Me not want recap video without review.
Review forthcoming. Me currently fully evaluating the the amp post modification.
he needs time to burn in the caps
What not buy a better unit.
Try explaining step by step no help at all
You're welcome!
@@6AM_YT - thought you did a really nice job. Those Wima caps were a bit tricky to get loose with that quality PCB.