Star Trek III :The Search For Spock (1984) Retrospective / Review

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  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Get Star Trek III on Blu-ray here goo.gl/gukDaT
    Get the soundtrack to Star Trek III here goo.gl/ib6UVW

    • @autopartsmonkey7992
      @autopartsmonkey7992 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey,,,kiddie,,,we didnt think he was doc brown....all we could see and hear after he started speaking english was ..BROTHER JIM.. from taxi.

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@autopartsmonkey7992 do you have the star trek score albums at all

    • @lukeskywalker6809
      @lukeskywalker6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the end of the review the music is Jerry Goldsmith’s Star Trek theme from the first film.

  • @47imagine
    @47imagine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Your reviews are great. I disagree, however, that James Horner's score did not shine in this movie. Horner did an outstanding job. The "stealing the enterprise" scene in this movie is one of the best scenes in the entire Star Trek franchise, and it's certainly propelled by Horner's amazing music!

    • @GreekRoyalty
      @GreekRoyalty 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      47imagine I would agree with you both. When Kirk warped off after refusing Captain Style's ultimatum to stop what he was doing and warped away you could literally feel Captain Styles' utter contempt with that percussion and those horns! When the music was good it was great, and when it was absent or off sounding it felt wrong. I also thought the use of Alexander Courage's theme at the end when Spock regains his memory was particularly apt for the joy of the moment after all the sacrifice and loss earlier.

    • @Kornknealious
      @Kornknealious 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except "Stealing the Enterprise" is not Horner at all. It is straight out of a segment from Prokofiev's "Romeo & Juliet" ballet.

    • @idea1407
      @idea1407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kornknealious apparently, Horner typically takes from the classics. It's not an exact copy. www.trekbbs.com/threads/tsfs-horners-nod-to-prokofiev.230713/

    • @idea1407
      @idea1407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. At the time of the movie coming out, which I was present, that scene was a big selling point and a big topic of discussion.

    • @bossbossboss3810
      @bossbossboss3810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Came here to say this! I would’ve agreed with Oliver about it being weaker than ST2, but the new Klingon theme (like he mentioned) and the Stealing the Enterprise scene music bring it to almost the music level of ST2. I think it’s the other more generic scenes that let it down, since they seem to reuse the ST2 music but only as the main and Vulcan themes.

  • @davidedens6353
    @davidedens6353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I think Lloyds performance is more important than you realize. Outside of Worf he is very much the template for modern klingons

  • @zardox78
    @zardox78 10 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Christopher Lloyd basically invented the next-generation Klingon in this movie. The Klingons of the '60s were just normal dudes with tan make-up on who talked big, but weren't really physically imposing. You got the sense that they were all mouth and ego. But in the movies they changed, and I'm not just talking about the make-up. They just started seeming... bigger. More savage. Somebody you really wouldn't want to piss off. And that continued from then on. And apart from the few seconds at the beginning of part 1 (which featured a ship of nameless Klingons getting vaporized) part 3 was where that all started. Back to the Future is my all-time favorite movie, but I have no problem forgetting all about Doc Brown when I watch this one. I thought he did a hell of a job playing this blindly ambitious, savage, sociopathic alien.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately,... he still retained qualities that remained from the original version of the script where Kruge was actually Romulan, not Klingon

    • @marcothommen2484
      @marcothommen2484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Whatever Christopher Lloyd does, he nails it! Good guy or villain!

    • @jinky0u812
      @jinky0u812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was actually out before BTTF, so people wouldn't really be reminded of Doc Brown, but rather, Reverend Jim Ignatowski from the TV show "Taxi". In fact, I think there was even a SNL skit, where Shatner played Kirk and one of the SNL cast played Commander Kruge and when Kruge demanded, "Give me Genesis!", Kirk said, "No!" and Kruge replied with "Okie Doke." like Reverend Jim would say. It was pretty damn funny. I totally agree with you though, I think Christopher just may have gave us the overall savage and warlike nature of the Klingons from that point forward. Which is really cool.

    • @ianfindly3257
      @ianfindly3257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That MAKE-UP was really introduced in the FIRST movie, I think it should be noted.

    • @zardox78
      @zardox78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianfindly3257 It was noted. 3rd line from the top.

  • @DKwiatkowski
    @DKwiatkowski 8 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    "Stealing the Enterprise" was definitely a fun romp in the soundtrack

    • @TitanFind
      @TitanFind 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, brilliant cue.

    • @ARX78
      @ARX78 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dave Kwiatkowski Still get chills when they clear the space doors. Really great score there.

  • @TitanFind
    @TitanFind 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Kruge has some of my favourite lines in the entire series, and Lloyd delivers them brilliantly.

    • @jacksonjacob7791
      @jacksonjacob7791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I prefer him as a Villain over Khan. Lloyd did a really good job with him.

    • @j.w.m.415
      @j.w.m.415 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Krug is my favorite of the ST villains, save maybe for (Kang is a close second). His motivations are believable, his character appropriate to them. Lloyd's understated performance was exactly what was needed.
      Montalban did a great job performing Khan, but the character made no sense. Neither did his actions in any of the circumstances surrounding him.

  • @KH4444444444N
    @KH4444444444N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is my favorite Star Trek film. And if you don't know why it's the best, then you are not a true Star Trek fan.

  • @MonteLeeMyPOV
    @MonteLeeMyPOV 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I remember watching this in the theater when i was 14 and one of the worst scenes in cinematic history happened. They blew up the Enterpise!! I remember cryng,lol

    • @austinwillcut4919
      @austinwillcut4919 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That scene is tragic but also very bad ass how Kirk fools them and kills their asses!

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly, I don't see why so many were hit so unexpectedly, because the movie trailers SHOW the destructed Enterprise, stating "join us on the *final voyage of the Starship Enterprise*" totally spoiling the whole thing. They might as well have said "watch the emotional death of Mr. Spock" in Wrath of Khan's trailers. I will never forgive them for that.

  • @QuackersAhoy
    @QuackersAhoy 11 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Star Trek III is still a fantastic movie to this day, I never tire of this and to watch it alongside II and IV as one whole story makes for the best experience of all the Trek movies . The original cast are still my fave crew as opposed to the sterile TNG crew who I've never taken to. Sure there are cheap and tacky bits but that just adds to the fun of it. Love it.

  • @matthewakian2
    @matthewakian2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I really disagree with you that James Horner theme does not help the emotional scenes. I think this is one of the score's greatest strengths. Who could forget 'Stealing the Enterprise', and I cannot think of more beautiful music here for the destruction of the original Enterprise. That's just my opinion.

    • @rogerklotz7737
      @rogerklotz7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      matthewakian2 Well, it isnt as effective compared to Star Trek 2. But thats not the fault of the third film. Even thought i personally think that the genesis project is the most interesting science fiction topic in a movie.

    • @idj20
      @idj20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed, when Kirk activated the self destruct code to begin the countdown but the Klingon boarding party wasn't aware of it, the music gave me that spine tingling sensation in the build up to the Enterprise's fate. It just works so beautifully.

    • @brettcooper3893
      @brettcooper3893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And "Returning To Vulcan" has literally brought me to tears before.

    • @robertsleeth861
      @robertsleeth861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brettcooper3893 I think this soundtrack is just as good as STII. "Stealing The Enterprise", the Klingon theme, and I agree with you about "Return to Vulcan". It's probably my favorite track in the whole score.

  • @mikeoyler2983
    @mikeoyler2983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    While this is not my most favorite Star Trek film, the death of Kirk's son was part of the build up for Star Trek 6. Kirk saying "Let them die," is perfect attention to the material and exactly what one would expect him to say.

    • @RCassinello
      @RCassinello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep - 2, 3, 4 and 6 really do play out as a 7.5 hour space opera.
      (And I'm not knocking 5 there, as I love that film too as a fun space adventure movie, but it doesn't contribute as an 'episode' within an otherwise tight-knit collection of movies that the other four I listed do)

  • @speedracer1945
    @speedracer1945 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I enjoyed this film much better than Star Trek 4 that got more critic praise . Watching the end of the Enterprise was heart retching , She was like a character , but was played out in battle.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dan Reese It all depends on one's mood at the time. When you want something sweeping and operatic, Search for Spock is the vastly superior film. But when you want a lighthearted fun Trek Adventure, Voyage Home is superior. Both different moviegoing experiences, and both succeeding in that right. I love them both, and put them at the very top of my list, periodically alternating the no 1 and no 2 position.
      I still tear up watching the NCC-1701 melting away,... but that being said, I get different tears when I first seen NCC-1701-A

    • @speedracer1945
      @speedracer1945 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      K1productions About Star Trek 4 I only liked the beginning and the end , I didn't like the Earth story at all , it just didn't work for Me it was too silly, but then I never did like any of the Earth stories even on TV except for one and that was The City on the Edge of Forever, but hey its my opinion I just didn't like to see my beloved characters acting goofy though many as You liked the whole picture an that's cool not that the Search for Spock was great but none of the Star Trek films were dark so there was no need for humor as the really bad Star Trek Shatner directed but He blamed it on a bad budget ( that film I cant watch , only one scene was good where Kirk stated that He needed His pain to stay alive ) Star Trek 4 was a huge success and many non Fans liked it .

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dan Reese
      Final Frontier did suffer from budget problems. Not the least of which, part of promised budget not delivered, and by that time, the budget they already had was gone. You can clearly see post production visual effects suffered horribly.

    • @pjgathergood6987
      @pjgathergood6987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me, whilst 'The Voyage Home' does verge on silly at times, it was a much needed breath of fresh air and lighting up on the heavy going-ness of the movie series up until this point (as with the TV series, 'Star Trek' can sometimes take itself a bit TOO seriously). I love the gung-go vibe of so many of the '60s episodes, with Kirk fighting giant lizard guys on rocky planets and whatnot, which hadn't really appeared much in the first three movies instead going for a far more 'dramatic' and serious tone, so to lighten up for a while in STIV and to let the characters actually enjoy themselves in a break from the flat-out-seriousness I feel did come as a welcome breather. Trek has always stumbled with comedy, it's either funny or cringey, but if you're criticising 'goofy comedy' episodes have you ever seen the likes of "The Trouble with Tribbles"?! :)
      'The Final Frontier' did indeed suffer from budget problems, and studio interference with the script, which is a shame as the original concept for it was pretty impressive and potentially might have been one of the Trek movie greats. However I feel it's not the worst ST movie, I'd say it still out-ranks the far too slow first one, as well as the last couple of "Basically a two-part TV episode but on the big screen" Next Generation movies where they felt like they'd run out of steam.

    • @jacksonjacob7791
      @jacksonjacob7791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 is probably my favorite star trek film

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks bud. I always try to be fair with my reviews. Its a good film and gets a lot of unnecessary slack.

  • @courageunitycompassi
    @courageunitycompassi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good overall review. When Kirk finds out his son is dead always gets me. Shatner knows how to make a moment.

    • @rxtsec1
      @rxtsec1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Klingon basterd killed my son. That scene on to the part of blowing up the enterprise is amazing

    • @n.d.m.515
      @n.d.m.515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rxtsec1 I really love how he tried to sit in the chair and ended up on the floor. You get the idea it came as a shock.

    • @rxtsec1
      @rxtsec1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n.d.m.515 that was a great emotional scene perfect for that moment

  • @DerHeimatlose1
    @DerHeimatlose1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If this is "not a perfect movie"
    then I say:
    "Please give me more of this (not perfect movies) today"
    It's ok for me if they are not perfect as long as they start to make movies like this again....

    • @matthewcorcoran2891
      @matthewcorcoran2891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I completely agree. No film is perfect anyway, but even the very flawed ones are much better than the woke rubbish that Hollywood churns out these days.

    • @davidbanan.
      @davidbanan. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah if a movie is entertaining its good, a movie is only bad if its boring and has nothing worth watching it for

    • @RCassinello
      @RCassinello 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, if we could get movies where characters have personalities and talk in dialogue that conveys plot, motivation and feelings... I'd be happy with that.
      It feels like to get a movie made these days, they have to pitch it as "Smug smart-asses talk in smug smart-assy quips at each other then explosions and end."

  • @SimonAshworthWood
    @SimonAshworthWood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Star Trek 3 is my 2nd favourite Star Trek film before the 2009 reboot. Star Trek 4 is my favourite of all Star Trek films.

  • @gutspraygore
    @gutspraygore 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I grew up as a huge fan of the original Star Trek series and really loved this movie for its creative and almost flippant break from convention. It was the first time I saw the crew portrayed in such a humanistic manner. They're out of uniform, they're committing a heist, it had humor. It was awesome to me. And it was a visual spectacle. This movie delivered.
    Also, at the time this came out, I only remembered Christopher Lloyd as that guy from Taxi and didn't really recognize him as anyone particularly noticeable. I could be wrong, but I think Back to the Future came out later (and even then, he was still that guy from Taxi). In any case, I didn't see Back to the Future until after Search for Spock.
    That being said, you can imagine my joy at seeing the Voyage Home. Not just one of my favorite Star Trek movies, but one of my favorite movies.
    Belated thanks for another great review!

    • @Texy88
      @Texy88 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, “Back to the Future” did come out after “Star Trek III: The Search for Spock”; the latter came out in 1984 whereas the former was not released until 1985.
      “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home” is indeed wonderful, and works even if you are not really a Star Trek fan! Just a shame it was followed by the woeful “Star Trek V: The Final Frontier”, which was a huge let-down by comparison.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Texy88 overall, Final Frontier was a let down, but it bears the closest resemblance to TOS of any of the films, and focuses more heavily on the trinity of Kirk-Spock-McCoy, keeping that relationship front and center. The final lines of the film make the whole movie for me.
      "I lost a brother once,... I was lucky I got him back" - "I thought you said men like us don't have families" - "... I was wrong". Kirk, Spock and McCoy ARE a family, and forever will be.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TheYorkMan
      There were more than 12 good episodes, though I will agree there were many bad ones. Most in the third season, in fact. But, when one says "TOS", it includes the TOS movies as well.

    • @kellyweingart3692
      @kellyweingart3692 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spock’s Brain

    • @Nycholas17
      @Nycholas17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You said a lot here, and I'm with every bit! Props! 👍

  • @violetvalkyrie476
    @violetvalkyrie476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a child, I was at first shocked and heartbroken at the loss of the enterprise. But then I realized that it was a good sendoff for the beloved ship. What more fitting of an end then to be destroyed in the process of defeating the enemy and allowing her crew to cheat death one more time.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    +The Cinema Cell glad your enjoying my work!.

    • @oscarjohnson2130
      @oscarjohnson2130 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Oliver Harper can you review the voyage home I because I have never seen a review for it

    • @charlesvan13
      @charlesvan13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I think things really fell apart in ST5." That's a major understatement. Having Shatner write and direct it doomed it to failure.

    • @oscarjohnson2130
      @oscarjohnson2130 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      charlesvan13 Ya, I still admit Star Tre. 5 is ok, I must say that I do enjoy watching it when I do. But it's definitely one of the worsts of the original cast movies and the next generation movies for that matter even though they only had one good hit and that was First Contact.

  • @Dr.Kananga
    @Dr.Kananga 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    We shall dedicate this awesome review to the late Leonard Nemoy.

  • @TimeBunny
    @TimeBunny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I really enjoyed this movie - it's one of those movies I can go back to and watch again and again and never be bored of it.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely. While everyone seems to love Wrath the most, I feel Star Trek III and IV are my two favorite, and I can never get enough of them

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My personal favorite of the Star Trek films

  • @raymondrose5961
    @raymondrose5961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hate to break this to you, but Christopher Lloyd's performance in this could not be " off - putting " as a result of his part n Back to the Future, because BTTF had not even been made yet - Search For Spock was at least a year before Back to the Future.

    • @sedgy19991
      @sedgy19991 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you can't be put of 2016 because back to the future came out a year later ?

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Enterprise fires on the Klingon Bird of Prey and the Klingon Commander's last words he says when the Klingon Bird of Prey is "Great Scott!".

    • @pjgathergood6987
      @pjgathergood6987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure you're "breaking this" to nobody, Raymond, as it's clear STIII was released a year before BTTF. But that doesn't suddenly void viewers saying "Hey, that's Doc Brown playing the Klingon" for those 35-years-and-counting afterwards...

    • @wastedpotential1965
      @wastedpotential1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the the time, Lloyd was best known as Reverend Jim from Taxi. In fact, in the MAD magazine satire of this film Most Drucker drew the Klingon Bird of Prey with. a lighted taxi sign on top in one panel.

    • @BronzeAgeBryon
      @BronzeAgeBryon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pjgathergood6987 Oliver doesn't really make that too clear in his review. I get what you mean, but if you watch the video his statement doesn't consider a re-watch years later AFTER Back to the Future.

  • @poolofzenda
    @poolofzenda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Leonard Nimoy: "We decided the wings (of the Bird of Prey) should change to an attack position....I don't know if the fans noticed." - Oh yes Len we noticed!

    • @Nycholas17
      @Nycholas17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DAMN RIGHT!!! 👍 🖖

  • @salaciouspancakes
    @salaciouspancakes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Always liked this one, broke the odd number rule for me. Liked it better than 4 and always thought it was underrated in terms of the Star Trek films.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Am I really that rare in thinking Star Trek IV was the best Trek film? I mean,... it was the closest to what made Star Trek TOS so great. You didn't even need a bad guy to "fight". Even the alien probe was never seen as an enemy, rather something misunderstood to be talked to rather than defeated. Maybe I'm just an idealist, I dunno

    • @richardadams4928
      @richardadams4928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also REALLY like this movie, puts the lie to the outright silly 'odd number curse' myth. III is VERY underrated and a fine entry in the series.

  • @normanszymanski5095
    @normanszymanski5095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No no no....this soundtrack is amazing. It sets such a somber, sweeping and emotional mood. It is the natural progression of ST2 and I adore it...

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoyed Star Trek 3. For one thing, it had DeForest Kelly best work as a Actor. When he channeling Spock, he is very effective. He does a great job.

    • @RCassinello
      @RCassinello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The scene near the end where Kelly has a monologue over the sleeping Spock is genuinely some of the finest acting you'll see in the whole franchise.

    • @jacksonjacob7791
      @jacksonjacob7791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kelley is definitely in top form here. I love the part where he tries to give the Vulcan death grip to the security officer lol

  • @Jermster_91
    @Jermster_91 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    4:43 RIP James Horner

  • @blacknapalm2131
    @blacknapalm2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *'Federation Battle Cruiser!'*
    Is still my favorite line in all the Star Trek films

  • @franl155
    @franl155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember an advert urging people to use public transport in London rather than cars; it showed a poster for this film, with the caption "By the time you find somewhere to park they'll have found him"

  • @Nycholas17
    @Nycholas17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PART III has an emotional and "off-the-reservation" drive that brilliantly demonstrates friendship, loss, and a cause higher than yourself. It's the BEST Star Trek of them all, though "Khan" may have been more crafty. 🖖

  • @kdryan21
    @kdryan21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never understood why people say this is a 'bad' Star Trek movie. It's not Shakespeare, but it's a good solid entry.

  • @graemewilson7975
    @graemewilson7975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should also mention james sikking performance -one of usa TV land great actors (howard HILL STREET BLUES one of his great characters, as is hired assassin in Point Blank (67) and gis grief stricken father in the star chamber) his cameo is just another great addition to ST3.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh thank you very much!. Thats really nice of you to say. Have a great day!.

  • @clonedkeifer
    @clonedkeifer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I beg to differ, this is a great movie did very well at the box office, James Horner's score has to be different from the last film. This film is about belief and resurrection. This movie was well thought out as a prelude to #4.

  • @hazzah1007
    @hazzah1007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been in the hospital for two weeks. This video series has been keeping me company. I thank you. Keep up the good work.

  • @funnypicturescomics
    @funnypicturescomics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan...but I watched the review anyways because it was done by Oliver Harper...Your videos are just excellent. I love your lead ups that set the tone before the review..excellent work. Can't wait to see your documentary.

  • @coolbreeze2409
    @coolbreeze2409 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    James Horner's soundtrack is phenomenal. One of the greatest moments in Trek lore is that burning Enterprise streaking across the sky with the score swelling, and he adds a lot of tension to the ship battles and escapes. ST III was one of my favorite films as a kid and still rewards multiple viewings.
    Excellent work you put into these videos. But I wish you didn't use long clips of Siskel and Ebert. It's just two guys' opinions who happen to be the most famous and also hate on a lot of good movies undeservedly.

    • @malafakka8530
      @malafakka8530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Day Light dislike is not hate, and Roger often gave good reasons for his reviews. While I like some of my childhood movies more than he did, I think that Roger was right and many of them are not as good as their fans believe they are.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Malafakka a film is as good as you like it. It’s art, it’s subjective.

  • @gmosphere
    @gmosphere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I find it fitting that in the next movie, kirk and company travel back in time using the vessel previously captained by a character played by Christopher Lloyd.

    • @SimonAshworthWood
      @SimonAshworthWood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yeah, I didn’t think of that connection! 😂

  • @mrmeerkat1096
    @mrmeerkat1096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always liked star trek 3, and I couldn't understand why certain fans didn't like it. I thought the Klingon commander/ Lloyd did a really good job. Kahn was a tough act to follow as the villain who ever played the role in the 3rd outing. Ricardo montelban as Kahn still hasn't been topped by any actor or character in the trek universe. Lloyd speaking to his officers without even looking at them and saying he trusts his instincts while just staring at the view screen is really good and I think Kruge is a underrated just like the movie itself. I don't mind the planet obviously being shot in a studio. I think the artificial look of the studio movie set fits with the idea that the plant life and everything else on the planet is man made, created by the genesis device and isn't by nature. The shot of the Enterprise just before it begins to self distrust and the colours and detail in the model's are alot better than the CGI star ships we have had since. Every trek movie that Nicholas Mayer has had any involvement in are considered the best, 2,4,6. I wish he would have wrote and directed a TNG movie. I think he could have saved that franchise, and given it some depth and made it a good adventure.

  • @bigkahunaburger1092
    @bigkahunaburger1092 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A kind of underrated movie that I found highly enjoyable

  • @cameronward9443
    @cameronward9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the death of David was perfect. Deaths are no glamorous go out in a blaze of glory. It's swift and brutal. He saves Savek's life and gives his own. It adds weight to the Klingons who throughout the original series were more punching bags than actual adversaries. That's my opinion anyways.

    • @rxtsec1
      @rxtsec1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My only complaint is savek wasn't played by christy alley

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah Captain Styles was a bit of an arse to be honest. Cheers for the feedback!. Glad you agreed on the points i made. You recorded my vid from your Skybox?. I didn't know you can do that!.

  • @graemewilson7975
    @graemewilson7975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really enjoy ST3 it manages to be funny and serious often simultaneously
    ST3 also manages to put jesus resurrection story into science fiction with certain characters replacing their biblical forebears. The levity the movie has also secures it's place as a pretty good movie-with the actors selling their motivations in refreshing ways. I was surprised you didn't mention the crucial scenes between Kirk and spocks father (a character often ignored ignored by reviewers) as the actor who played brought the right amount of sympathy and confusion regarding Spock.
    Lloyds portrayal of kruge is just the right side of tongue in cheek and his killing his own crew with his pistol often looks painful.
    As for David dying , it a digression from main plot-but credit to William shatner-his reaction to Davids murder is superbly played, his physical pain excellently done
    Finally the destruction of the enterprise is beautifully shot and reasoning behind it sound (unlike now when the hero ship tends to blow up every movie!)
    Great review

  • @juniorxeastny8169
    @juniorxeastny8169 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wondered why I didn't think much of this movie when it came out, and barely remember watching it in theaters. You reminded me that this came out the exact same summer as Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Indy & Temple of Doom...! It got blown out the water, and its a miracle I remember it at all.

  • @tychomonolith9998
    @tychomonolith9998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review, but I disagree about Horner's score, I find it quite majestic during the opening credits and the rousing 'Stealing of the Enterprise' piece makes an otherwise pretty slow moving sequence (basically the Enterprise backing out of Spacedock!) into a really exciting one. I love the way the music just keeps building and building until they get through the doors and eventually escape, an amazing sequence and shows that you don't need action, battles and explosions all the time.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are going to need to invest in a video capture card and a professional microphone. The video and audio are edited and mixed with Final Cut Pro.

  • @KnuckNFutz
    @KnuckNFutz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your retrospect videos Oliver! I've watched them all more than once. Keep them coming!!

  • @MarkMcAllister-ni9sf
    @MarkMcAllister-ni9sf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing this film as a very small kid, when it was in theatres...it's one of my first retained memories from that age...of the whole theatre erupting in applause at several moments. The people in that theatre loved this film...clapping and yelling positive things, is not so common today.

  • @randyriker541
    @randyriker541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A disturbing trend that was set in this movie was the destruction of the Enterprise. A plot device that has been overused since, in TNG, with "Yesterday's Enterprise", Star Trek Generations, Star Trek Nemesis, And in the Kelvin Universe as well. Seriously, can't we see an Enterprise being retired?

  • @markmcauleymcauley9287
    @markmcauleymcauley9287 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the bit where they steal the enterprise is up there as one of the most tense trek moments I love it

  • @gustavefrankfurter6462
    @gustavefrankfurter6462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn! Now I want to watch this film again! The same thing happened with your review of ST:2! I guess rewatching parts 2-4 is how I'll spend my quarantine day! 🖖

  • @kensmith2285
    @kensmith2285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't realize until now that David quoting a Star Wars reference in a Star Trek film

  • @xtzyshuadog
    @xtzyshuadog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Now that I've read twenty comments all parroting *who could forget "Stealing the Enterprise"* I suppose I really can't, now. Time to search for it.*

  • @robertwilson214
    @robertwilson214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While they did just repeat the Horner music of part 2,that's like complaining about having to hear Mozart's requiem twice,not exactly an ordeal.

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best moment: "hey this clock is moving towards zero" "get out of there!" 😆

  • @bigemugamer
    @bigemugamer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely love the 'stealing the enterprise' musical sequence, I have it on me MP3 player. =)

  • @virginiaconnor6491
    @virginiaconnor6491 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll miss James Horner too. If you listen to "S.T.: Wrath of Khan", Search for Spock", "Cocoon", and "Aliens", you' ll hear bits of the same music. I doubt if that was an accident.

    • @shadowxneo
      @shadowxneo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      he also did krull.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers man. Some people aren't too keen on the Siskel and Ebert reviews which is fair enough but i like to balance it out and show different views on the film by critics at the time. :)

  • @legvalmont
    @legvalmont 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get the idea of odd and even rule. But III is one of my favourites hahahaha

  • @cecleung
    @cecleung 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I felt David's death was in keeping with how quickly the red shirts died in the series. Tasha Yar had a similar sudden death in Next Generation.

    • @cecleung
      @cecleung 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheYorkMan incredible that they liked her less than first season Troi!

    • @arielfilmsinc1926
      @arielfilmsinc1926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the actor SIMPLY WANTED OUT of the series got his wish

    • @thefonzkiss
      @thefonzkiss 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yarr was killed off because SHE wanted to leave.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ariel films inc he didn’t want out. He had a guest role in TNG and you could see he was really ill.

  • @robertsleeth861
    @robertsleeth861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Star Trek III is my favorite out of all the Star Trek movies mainly because this is the first film where the crew actually become family instead of just Star Fleet officers. I think the score is just as good as Star Trek II. I think Star Trek II is a better made film but for some reason this one is closer to my heart.

  • @PetePuebla
    @PetePuebla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't have a problem with the theme music from this film. Reminiscent of Wrath of Khan.

  • @germanicelt
    @germanicelt ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first Trek movie I really got into. I remember recording it when it was first on tv in 1987, and watched it over and over.

  • @TRAUMATIZEDpc
    @TRAUMATIZEDpc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate your input and description of this movie, however I do respectfully disagree with one aspect you mention both in this and the 2nd movie about the different movie theme songs.
    You say that they should have stuck with the same Goldsmith intro for all the movies, I think the different intros for 2 through 6 all are good and fit very well into the premise and style of the movie. I don't think the series would have been as exciting if they had just used the same song for each movie's beginning. but that's my opinion.

  • @alonzotanner1226
    @alonzotanner1226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Geez Oliver, we get it. You favor Jerry Goldsmith’s score and wish he scored every damn movie. I appreciate what he did but Horner did the best scores for the best movies in the series. (Part III is actually my 3rd favorite after Vi)

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love Horner's music in the ST II and III. His soundtracks enhanced the films and I never get tired of listening to them. Goldsmith did well, but I don't really care to listen to his music from TMP or TNG just for fun. Horner's compositions still thrill me.

    • @phanaiyes
      @phanaiyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%. Horner's scores are superior. Goldsmith turned in a beautiful soundtrack, but Horner-even rushed and ripping himself off-created something transcendental. Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock, the best of the Star Trek films, wouldn't be as great as they are without their music.

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I won't get into a pissing contest over who was the better Trek composer, as I have always absolutely loved both Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner ever since these films came out. I will, however, absolutely agree that Oliver has this weird thing about Jerry Goldsmith in these Trek reviews.

  • @donstuie
    @donstuie 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the reviews, but moreso I love the choices you make in what to review. It's like you've reached into my brain and found every movie I feel is underrated or under-appreciated from my childhood. Good work!

  • @Texy88
    @Texy88 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, the effects look good today, especially in HD - except for some of the matting (in particular the cliff edge on which Kruge and Kirk duke it out, and the bits in the foreground as the Klingon Bird of Prey approaches to land on Vulcan)!

  • @rxtsec1
    @rxtsec1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many" My favorite line in the movie in contrast to part 2 which was just as brilliant

  • @raptorbandito
    @raptorbandito 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review man! Whenever you cover a movie I haven't seen in years, I always have to watch it that very day. More than any other reviewer you really do encourage people to enjoy cinema. Keep up the great work!

  • @gailseatonhumbert
    @gailseatonhumbert 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back to the Future was not filmed until after this movie.

  • @johnevans2710
    @johnevans2710 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this soundtrack, but only because it was a near direct copy of the Wrath of Khan's incredible score. I agree, that James Horner was on autopilot a bit in this one - not straying far from the previous film's music. I love the music used when the crew were stealing the Enterprise from the space dock.

  • @DsRandomMemories
    @DsRandomMemories 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite movie. I was seventeen when this came out and just graduated high school. Good times.

  • @keyopronin4134
    @keyopronin4134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gotta say "Christopher Lloyd" truly played a I don't give a Damn type Klingon.

  • @rcw-europe
    @rcw-europe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the most part I do agree with your review; however, I think you do underrate the soundtrack a bit. I think it does rather provide a transition from the second film and adds melancholy and grief after Spocks death. Above that, the music has some moments when it’s not just supporting the visual action, but actually sets both: pace and atmosphere. Best example is the “stealing the Enterprise”-scene: I think there are very few scenes in the history of cinema when music and visual action work so well together. Thanks to the fitting score, the characters’ emotions of loyalty to their friend and defiance towards their authorities are carried over in an empathetic and graceful manner.
    But other than that I do agree with you: it is a film with flaws, but not as bad as often made out to be.

  • @stewmurray47
    @stewmurray47 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review Olly. Star Trek 3 was always a favourite of mine. The piece of music 'Stealing the Enterprise' is an amazing track....I can always listen to that and picture everything that happens during it.
    Also...one of the best scenes in Trek happens during this..."000 Destruct 0"
    "Speaking?? Let me hear....6,5,4,3 GET OUT!!!!! GET OUTTA THERE!!!" lol awesome.
    Thanks as always for a top notch review Olly

  • @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527
    @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooh I strongly disagree about the music the Stealing the Enterprise Suite is probably my favourite James Horner Suite

  • @Pondimus_Maximus
    @Pondimus_Maximus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hearing Jerry Goldsmith's score on top of the clips at the end was a treat!

  • @TheSpeeddemondriver8
    @TheSpeeddemondriver8 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel that the score was well written for being a middle film of a trilogy. Im surprised you didn't comment on the stealing the enterprise track and scene which is key in the movie... but thank you for the review...

    • @TheSpeeddemondriver8
      @TheSpeeddemondriver8 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrBipson i love how scotty is in the turbo lift on excelsior and he says "up your shaft" lol

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    its from Star Trek Insurrection buddy. I can't remember the track title. Sorry.

  • @sinjin90ful
    @sinjin90ful 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What makes this movie one of the best of the series is that all the characters are together except for Uhura but her part with Mr. Adventure was awesome and her last words to Kirk was from the heart. I really loved there dedication to there friend, when Captain of Excelsior says to Kirk "if you do this you will never sit in the captains chair again" Kirk does not even hesitate. Well done all

  • @Hail_To_The_King
    @Hail_To_The_King 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Star Trek II, III & IV are as good as the original Star Wars trilogy

  • @holden3
    @holden3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mystery of surveillance cameras on ships continues ?

  • @RetrofanFilms
    @RetrofanFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Any chance of doing one for Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home?

  • @jerryc5743
    @jerryc5743 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:39 - that was a great summer line up of movies! You do not get that anymore.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!. Cool to hear you love the same movies I do.

  • @gkroll8467
    @gkroll8467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More great lines that green Blooded sob it’s his revenge for all those arguments he lost The theme when the arrive on Vulcan is so beautiful

  • @candjim
    @candjim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Search for Spock is definitely one of my favourites.

  • @HoustonSoto
    @HoustonSoto 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also, I think one of the reasons I've grown to love this film more is the emphasis on friendship. These characters are all willing to suffer a court marshal and potential death to rescue an old friend. It is a wonderful payoff after almost 20 years of character development for this crew.

  • @Dreadtothink
    @Dreadtothink 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Horner's score during the stealing of the Enterprise scene is fantastic.

  • @pukki34
    @pukki34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a movie year is must have been in 84. Cant even imagine all these titles that came out that year.

  • @richardhodgson6711
    @richardhodgson6711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having watched this film for the first time in about 20 years the other night, my opinion is that its much better than often thought, and underrated.

  • @PetePuebla
    @PetePuebla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This film was on the verge of greatness like the Wrath of Khan. The evil character was there. This movie missed the mark on more action and a sappy ending. It had the action, and dramatic loss, but it was too rushed like you said.

  • @stewartsparke
    @stewartsparke 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel. Keep up the good work, really enjoying the retrospective reviews

  • @SanzNahar
    @SanzNahar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love your channel dude, where's Star Trek 4 review?

    • @OliverHarper
      @OliverHarper  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cheers man, not had a chance to do retrospective on it yet.

    • @rogerklotz7737
      @rogerklotz7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oliver Harper i love you

  • @parkerpshebnisky1051
    @parkerpshebnisky1051 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best in the franchise!

    • @weldsj8847
      @weldsj8847 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does not deserve the hate it gets. As this video shows, great bridge from 2 to 4. I love all 3.

  • @steveleeart
    @steveleeart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Insurrection music inserted to scenes at the end!

  • @cazualgamerjp
    @cazualgamerjp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your reviews, but I wish you used music from the movie itself during the clips you show. You've done this with other reviews of Star Trek movies as well; for example, you used Jerry Goldsmith's Star Trek 1 theme during clips from Star Trek 6. During the clips at the end of this review, I believe you're using music from Star Trek Insurrection, if my memory serves me correctly. Other than that, I got no complaints about your reviews - you got the best movie reviews I've ever seen. Good job :)

  • @NickMichalak
    @NickMichalak 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. I've always enjoyed and praised Search For Spock. It's a fine movie. I think it's real failing is that it doesn't have that strong thematic material that Wrath of Khan had. The content is there to work with, but it's not drawn together to forge an overarcing thematic cohesion. Kruge is also a good villain, but he could've been expanded for more depth. And yes, Goldsmith's score is sorely absent here. I LOVE his Klingon Theme, and this would've been perfect for its return!

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks matey..True 'Stealing the Enterprise' track is awesome. Someone posted that track on my FB group. :)

  • @TRON8882
    @TRON8882 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Was that theme also used for Star Trek-The Next Generation?
    Great review on Moonwalker as well. I remember seeing it as a kid on Laserdisc.
    I was glued to it.