No man Relebogile 😭😭😭 now when I see your name it gives me Oprah vibes, in a sense of how you extract info and how you phrase your questions. Please keep pushing. Please, you will see the fruits.
I feel like I'm watching a video of myself being interviewed! I've also felt so out of place with white communities ever since I was a child. There's just something in my heart and soul that is drawn to African communities. I feel so welcomed and at home!
CarmenBolton. I am the opposite. I feel that black people just don't understand me. Funny, I know. Most of my good friends are white. Hence I gravitate towards them.
I love that this girl is not talking about race, she's talking more about people in general living together. She is in 2027 and we are all stuck in 1989.
white priviledge? lol there is no such thing anymore. There is education, skill, knowledge, nepotism, and economic privilege. Putting things to race is highly inaccurate at this point in time so let's be honest. i am far more privileged than some white guy who isn't as rich as my family or as educated as me.
@@KAIZORIANEMPIRE It is nice that you have not experienced any hold back being a black person in a world that favors white people. It is great that you have not been searched whist a fellow white friend or colleague has not been followed or searched in a shop. That you've not been asked to keep your hair professional when you have decided to go to work/ school with your natural hair just the way it grows out of your hair like white classmates/ colleagues do. I am happy for you that in your profession you've never been second guesse, or that a client refused service/ treatment from you because of your race. You are privileged that you are not like the majority of black people who are busy fighting for resources, proper education, running water, who have to express themselves in English for job Interviews, are seen as unintelligent when they cannot articulate themselves well In English in an African country. What about moving to a predominantly white area and receiving hostility from white neighbours or getting police called on you? If you have never experienced that you are very lucky and I wish you the best in life. Exam papers written in Afrikaans or English at university level. What about how our history is written?
@@blessing8490 I agree, it's like coming into someone's home (uninvited) and expecting them to follow ur rules and over staying ur welcome. Like who the hell do these ppl think they are?
I can't hide it i despite/hate most white Ppl bcs they lyk most of us &they r good Pretenders bt I must commend this Young Lady she's not a Pretender hope she'll b a good example to her kid's...👊👊👊😉😉😉
Magadibo wa ka...... I am married to a white man.we are blessed with two boys. I relate very well with what she is saying She is blessed And stay blessed
Beautiful story. Learned so much from her as a black South African. I am proud of her for choosing herself. What a beautiful story. We can be a beautiful world if we can come out of our comfort zone n learn each other's cultures. We are all human. Her story taught me that u can love whoever u want irrespective of race because love doesn't see colour.
She lost me when she said “I’ve never had white privilege…I hustled for everything I have” 😒 that’s not what white privilege is and I’m glad Relebogile broke it down perfectly.
Me too, she was shocked she wouldn't be able to get apartments in some places in Capetown , she had no idea, she said "oh Gs", & that's white privilege right there.
@@realteawithsandy1366 to be honest, Sandra, no one was born racist..we are tired of the race card. Not all racists are white and not all whites are racists. We as women, should stop, bullying each other, and build a better society for our children.
When she went “that’s a deep question” I thought “welcome to the show, Relebogile unpacks that way” 😹😹 I love this channel so much. Learning a lot and binging it too
You are beautiful...and oh don't worry ...continue teaching all of us that humanity. I'm married a to a white man and up to now I'm learning to educate my own people.....they myths out there are hilarious!!!! So I am immersing myself in the German culture.....💜💜💜💜🇸🇿🇩🇪🇸🇿🇩🇪
I can tell you are so genuine and you are awesome. I enjoyed your openness and willingness to listen when the whole thing of white privilege was brought up. Keep fighting the good HUMAN fight.
We very much relate much to your experience. It is SOO sad that this is happening in 2021, thought society would be accepting now. I'm black, my wife's white, we were married in 2003. We always felt safe and accepted EKasi and were viewed as a symbol of hope for the new South Africa. We faced so much hostility in white neighbourhoods, we were an offence to white people, in restaurants we would experience white people in the next table not enjoying their meal because of our presence. We have two beautiful daughters 10 and 8, my wife gets comments like "How nice of you to adopt black kids" to which she would respond and embarrass the person passing that comment. Once in a while we do have "The talk" with our kids just to prepare them for the real world the we sadly live in. Proud of you girl! just live your life, whoever has a problem, it is their problem not yours.
It's very sad to imagine how you have to prepare the next generation, please tell them the truth and the truth only, I wish you well in the upbringing of your kids.
@@relebogilemabotja215 I saw it on my suggested views 2 weeks ago. Thank you so much for meaningful content. This is not pretentious at, all. Real issues from real people. Keep it up my sister. Love from Botswana 🇧🇼 🇧🇼 🇧🇼 By the way, I subscribed ☺
I feel like she needs therapy, she's still very much afraid to call a spade a spade.. she's still traumatized by their bullying stunts . She's playing safe not to rub anyone the wrong way. She's so afraid I feel it in her voice and the way she candy quotes.. She keep say , it isn't a thing. I feel for her. Afrikaans people are really toxic and a danger to themselves. Too sad . I applaud her for taking a stand even whn she feels afraid. It takes a lot of guts. Love and light to you❤
Look,I'm really glad 4 her. But to be honest "self preservation" is a thing. I can't believe she really believes she's totally fine with crossing over 100%. Her comment on not ever being able to date an Afrikaans dude coz she's gone black,I wondered if deep down she wishes otherwise. I lived in a small town in Manchester and was surrounded by white people,I went to all white multiracial schools,was engaged to a white man...but whenever i saw a black face...I used to feel happy and almost like a sense of home. I'm not racist,but I've grown to understand that self preservation is inherent & it's ok to own it . All in all,I dowish her all the best,& glad that she chose herself first!
@@amandamakhoba1314 there is nothing wrong with that i have worked in all white towns with no issues but so elated if i saw a black man or person got pretty happy with the usual nods of heads for approval you do not even have to talk, there is nothing wrong i believe in feeling your crowd or herd but everything wrong by being labelled racist just because you identify with your race despite you how you choose to interact, She is confident in her position and there is no need to push to have a strong position, I clearly get what she means when she says in not a thing... its a loaded statement to anyone with a keen ear, and we cant deny what her experience is and how she sees her world what she chooses to say or not say, she has also pointed its an issue she has never discussed with family.... probably sometimes some things are better left alone if no one has confronted you or left you alone as long as you are happy to live your life. i wish her the best too its never going to be easy taking flake from both sides
In this regard I think Lebo chocked her by claiming to know other Afrikaaners who are open minded. No matter how Lebo can interact with whites, she can't match her. There's always something Lebo won't get from these people because of her being a public figure. On the other hand, Kasi is one of them and has experience of what she be saying. Lebo has to broaden her horizons too.
“ Ifeel for her. Afrikaans people are really toxic and a danger to themselves”” OH REALLY,???? Thinking or saying that is the problem If you do not have anything nice to say about someone rather don’t say anything..
Don't mind me... Just subscribing... There is something unique about this. Interviewing ordinary people not just celebs. I love this... So awesome and with soo much potential 👊
Very interesting interview. I am similar but not from South Africa, I've been here since 2015, but have still experienced and still am experiencing some of these same things. As someone who was raised in the black and indian community and have had very few white friends, we are all equal..... As long as we choose to see it that way. Relebogile, I would love to have a chat with you sometime about all this and hear your side as well.
@@realteawithsandy1366 Like I said, we have to choose to see it that way. Unfortunately some think we aren't the same and a lot of the time (not all) that is why they will always be fighting
@@lifeofdtw9694 we cant just ignore the black experience just because white people want us to so they can feel better about the way they have treated us and still do. white people have taken NO accountability for what they have done and how they still benefit and its actually insulting to keep asking black people to turn a blind eye while they continue to be oppressive. these imaginary grey areas that white people want us to live in ...or rather the farce they want us to buy into is just so disrespectful. This woman speaks so boldly about being the space to be herself ( whatever that means) ...BLACK people afforded her that. lets remember that. Also the space to be herself ...its such a confusing statement...you can not be a part of a culture and not understand the experience of that culture. I dont fall for these weak narratives.
Relebogile you are number 1 host in SA.Any platform to have you it's a blessing & luck, your voice, your personality,you connect everywhere."Perfect"I THINK WE'VE GOT.... Oprah Winfrey in SA.
I want to live in a South Africa that is for all South Africans that live in it. Where there's no space for systematic issues. We have a sordid history, absolutely, but this blame game should end, All parties should unite. We need a United Reformed South Africa.
Sesi Relebogile re leboga channel ya gago ngwanagesho. This interview was insightful, I’m also having issues of tribalism and homophobia in KZN because I’m a coloured looking Pedi man dating an Indian man. The things we go through as South Africans in this day and age are appalling.
Relebogile realeboga for making her feel comfortable to share her story and I also like that you still asked the necessary questions that allowed you to probe deeper.... wow the kfc phrase is such an eye opener
Bathong, I'll never see KFC the same again 🤣💀☠️ The peace of knowing your identity and what you identify with, without feeling bad or ashamed about it is hella important. I wish as country we could accept this of each other. That will be the beginning of healing as a country and we'll learn things from each other openly as different races.
This was a great interview and discussion between two intelligent women, both the interviewee and the interviewer. I wish both of them well, and their positive mindsets are dearly needed in the still problematic and racially divided post-Apartheid society of South Africa.
The fact that this is a 'thing'. That there's an interview like this in *South Africa* just baffles me completely. Relebogile, your interviewing skills though🔥🔥🔥
What I've picked up from this conversation is that dating outside one's race is deemed as either an "upgrade" or a "downgrade" in terms of social class, and/or creed. Separation from family, based on the ethnicity of one's romantic partner suggests that racism is so deeply entrenched in certain families that it is actually part of their culture. Once something becomes part of one's culture, it is almost impossible to dismantle or remove. I don't think racism will ever end, so long as those that benefit from it, economically and otherwise, fail to remove it from their belief system altogether.
Its just basic human psychology. In order to survive in ancient times, people needed to stick very tightly together with their group to survive. To know who is your group means to know who is NOT your group; and this is an aspect of human psychology that will never change, just like our need to gossip, socialize, compete, or have sex. Its instinct to separate yourself and ur family from the others; wether its based on race, tribe, class, whatever, people will always find a way to group themselves together and others apart. U cant have the good of humanity without the ugly, because its only in contrast to the ugly that we know what beauty is.
Wuuuuu this channel is fantastic. Love your interviewing skill. You listen and give time to your interviewee to speak. You ask leading questions that then make it easier for people phrase their answers. How did youtube hide this gem from me?? Thank goodness a video was recommended today and i guess i'm binge watching.
She's dated a black guy but has never experienced white privilege. My hubby who is white is greeted by Sir at the checkout. They just say: Plastic to me. He calls them out all the time. If you don't educate yourself, speak the language then it's cultural expropriation. Go deep or don't at all
So true. I became very conscious of White privilege when I dated a white man, it is unsettling that she is not aware of it. With her words she explained that according to society dating black is downgrading and dating white is upgrading and yet she hasnt connected the dots. She still needs to do a lot of Reflection.
When it comes to race, the world is a sad place. God created all men equal yet some groups think they are better, how very empty and sad. It's melanin or the lack thereof that has become such a devastating deal. I love the fact that I have alot of melanin as part of the human race
Loved the interview. Thank you. Very important topic. Something I've experienced myself and still very much struggling with (esp finding the balance between lovingly trying to educate people/ keeping my own peace). Relebogile, I admire your insane interview skills. Sharp questions, even helping your guest to bring out her view, but always leaving her feeling respected and heard. Respect sis! DJ Kasi, I admire your strength and power to fight for what you believe in. And by doing so, creating a hopefully more tolerant society for your daughter to live in. Keep that open mind, learn more about privileges but above all, thank you for showing everyone how to live with an open heart. Much love to you, your husband and gorgeous girl.
I think she is the ambassador of transformation. She has been annointed to bring different races and cultures together. God bless her, protect her and continue giving her peace.
I feel like this one is different from Marie.. This one as much as she identifies as black and is fully vested in the "kasi culture", she still acknowledges her white upbringing and still associates with parts of that culture. Marie does not want anything to do with blackness and there is so much self hate from her.
We all gods.. We create our own world... Thanks sis ree.. It's my first time watching the show... . it's purposeful and visionary... You and ur team have created something special...
Thank you for taking time out to explain the 'privilege' part Relebogile, I was starting to get irritated. And I am so glad that she took time to understand and get education. She is very courages, we know her experience of being ostracised because that's our everyday life. I Hope she grows stronger and bolder.
All I see is a beautiful soul. Live your best life queen and enjoy your journey. Nothing is a thing... just be you as you are. It's not about "black or white" but human beings. Much respect and love from this side.
My husband lost ALL of his friends when he started dating me and my friends were admiring me for dating him. I really hated this backward slave thinking! Even going to shops the tellers would ask if I could hook them up with a white man 🙄. I think we as black people need to start loving ourselves and each other and know who we actually are we used to be Kings and Queens!! Until we were oppressed and made to feel less than and the mentality is still on-going in 2021!
I love her, I like her....am glad the African community accepts her as one of us...... in that same sense, let's respect Marie's decision and choice to be white. Love you Lebo 😍
You are georges Anita, just live your life as long as you're happy, the rest shouldn't really matter. Be you and do you we shouldn't be defined by the color of our skin as to who we wanna be with being friends or relationships wise..sending love from Namibia. 💕💕
I'm 7 minutes in and I'm in tears. This is because racism is real, y'all. It's so sad to still be dealing with racism in 2023. I'm hurting for this lady and wish her all the best in life. May God bless everyone who genuinely respects and loves people of all races. It's a godly thing to do. Hugs from a black woman.
Great conversation. I love her story & admire her honesty. She seems like someone who is attracted to genuine souls irrespective of background and that's a beautiful thing if that's the case. we need people.
@@carmennicholson2867 I will make sure its delivered ryt to your doorstep!Racism exists because of lack of understanding tackled with selfishness and these days the world is coming together to be a rather small village in terms on internet and social media reach.Love lives!!
I'm happy for her that she has found peace within.I feel like the whole thing is projected to be racial.it just looks to me that she's just seeing souls because if we dig deep she does not know that much h about the african culture and that's ok.Shes just happy and something clicked for her.Shes still young and life is a great teacher.Im sure later in life she might realize that it's not about her saying she'll never go back to dating an afrikaners.love is love she might still fall in love with an afrikaaner.who says life is not going to happen and her boyfriend might fall in love with a black girl.I hope she will open her horizons.This is a swati man after all the prospects of another woman are there...you are a beautiful girl ,beautiful soul.I admire your strength and courage..may you be blessed on your life journey
Honestly, the word KFC Brought me here. And ended up following the channel and the interviewer is amazing. I love DJ Khasi but I didn't know your story at all. You opened my eyes so far and beyond the word racism. Proud you women 💃
I really enjoyed listening to Anita, love conquers all nagetive energy her love for human beings is inborn ❤ God will protect her and her child and family. Thank you, unpack team.
What a tremendously courageous woman, like the Zulu warriors of old at the battle of Isandlwana who courageously stood their ground against the British rifles and the cannons, she stood her ground against the rifles of racism and the cannons of prejudice. She endured abuse at the hands of those who loved her conditionally, yet Inspite of the treacherous conditions she was subjected to.. she endured and prevailed in her persuit for justice and inner peace. Kudos to the presenter and the team.
Pardon my ignorance, I didn't know you have exclusive copyrights to Zulu history and that your people are so high and mighty that nothing and no-one compares to them. I will tread carefully next time.
I love you girl, we need more people like you to make our country a better place to live in truly ❤. Actually we need each other to make this country better. Colour aside my fellow peopleeeee🙏
What an amazing interview. I wish there were more non-black people like you who truely embrace being South African. Please keep up the great work you are doing Relebogile. Dj Kasi DuchAz thank you for having a beautiful soul sis wami.
I feel like Anita was kind of biting her tongue a bit in answering some questions or maybe she had trouble putting her thoughts into words. Good interview though❤️
I think being yourself is always gonna be difficult as the society will expect some explanation of why you do things a certain way, but sometimes you need not go to deep in explanation but say "I am being myself". Some of the questions she was asked are hard, you have to admit, but most deserve the same answer of "I am being myself"
Well, unfortunately, she is totally unaware of how some Black women see themselves. Their idea of beauty is influenced by white concepts of beauty? ( a lot). Skin bleaching, straightening hair with chemicals and / or wearing straight weaves and wigs. ( even some surgically alter their bodies too). Everyone wants to look like the fashion model.
I'm really glad I came across this channel. Maybe a future topic would be how to race mixed race kids... something in those lines. I'm african, married to a European and I have mixed race children. It wasn't a big deal for me when we lived in Africa. I somehow thought I could just bring them up. We moved to Europe, and I realised there's certain conversations we need to have with our children. I'm not sure how to navigate this topic with my husband as well, who does not even need to think about this, not realising, we are, will be, treated different from him. How do we give our kids the tools to navigate this life and bring them up confident and comfortable in their skin.. its frustrating
She's gorgeous, pleasant, lucky black guy. We must all welcome her in townships and protect her from bad guys ekasi. She genuinely loves black lifestyle. She someone you would want in a braai with friends
We can all agree that Black South Africans 🇿🇦 are warm and welcoming people, they love people of all backgrounds, love, peace, prosperity, like good vibes, amapiano 🎵and so many more. Black Americans are enjoying it here and few other whites are also becoming themselves and enjoying South Africa instead of internalised fear. Yes we have many problems to still overcome but yeah it's happening.
Lol ni lost Yaz . The hatred you have towards South Africa is very sad. South Africa welcomes all nationalities, we are naturally welcoming people. We love black Africans, I myself work with other African brothers. I advocate for better South Africa, where rule of law is observed. I therefore welcome you to to come and enjoy. It's beautiful here. Cia
When DJ Kasi speaks, her hand gestures are truly African..... 😍... This is South Africa, u choose where u r comfortable..... What i know about black ppl is that when you show them love, they love u more... regardless of the race... We love you gal 😍😍😍
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Thank you to the Unpacked crew for giving me this platform 🙏
I was so inspired by your story
You are a brave woman. #inspired
Very brave!!!!
@@EmpericLen brave???
We are one, African ✊🏾🇿🇦
No man Relebogile 😭😭😭 now when I see your name it gives me Oprah vibes, in a sense of how you extract info and how you phrase your questions. Please keep pushing. Please, you will see the fruits.
I used listen to her on 702 powerful this one no punches pulled
OK ok
I feel like I'm watching a video of myself being interviewed! I've also felt so out of place with white communities ever since I was a child. There's just something in my heart and soul that is drawn to African communities. I feel so welcomed and at home!
Liberate yourself for your own happiness,peace and freedom ,every human need that
We love u Carmen
You good?
CarmenBolton. I am the opposite. I feel that black people just don't understand me. Funny, I know. Most of my good friends are white. Hence I gravitate towards them.
I love that this girl is not talking about race, she's talking more about people in general living together. She is in 2027 and we are all stuck in 1989.
..Ok ma'am but I doubt anything would have changed by 2027 & the events of the past few weeks proved that. It's more a case of she's in 3027
The white privilege education from the host was a beautiful moment. I like the guest, may we have more young people with such mindset.
I agree with you. And thank you for the compliment. My team and I will try our best to keep doing good work
Some of the questions you have asked this beautiful lady they're just necessary, but thanks for the show.
@@relebogilemabotja215 Girl its been years! Go ahead with your bad self fellow choir girl xoxo
white priviledge? lol there is no such thing anymore. There is education, skill, knowledge, nepotism, and economic privilege. Putting things to race is highly inaccurate at this point in time so let's be honest. i am far more privileged than some white guy who isn't as rich as my family or as educated as me.
@@KAIZORIANEMPIRE It is nice that you have not experienced any hold back being a black person in a world that favors white people.
It is great that you have not been searched whist a fellow white friend or colleague has not been followed or searched in a shop. That you've not been asked to keep your hair professional when you have decided to go to work/ school with your natural hair just the way it grows out of your hair like white classmates/ colleagues do.
I am happy for you that in your profession you've never been second guesse, or that a client refused service/ treatment from you because of your race.
You are privileged that you are not like the majority of black people who are busy fighting for resources, proper education, running water, who have to express themselves in English for job Interviews, are seen as unintelligent when they cannot articulate themselves well In English in an African country.
What about moving to a predominantly white area and receiving hostility from white neighbours or getting police called on you? If you have never experienced that you are very lucky and I wish you the best in life.
Exam papers written in Afrikaans or English at university level. What about how our history is written?
The fact that they think dating a black person in the African continent is downgrading is comical.....
Them being in Africa is downgrading... How about that.
@@blessing8490 I agree, it's like coming into someone's home (uninvited) and expecting them to follow ur rules and over staying ur welcome. Like who the hell do these ppl think they are?
The joke is on them !
I can't hide it i despite/hate most white Ppl bcs they lyk most of us &they r good Pretenders bt I must commend this Young Lady she's not a Pretender hope she'll b a good example to her kid's...👊👊👊😉😉😉
Welcome to South Africa !🇿🇦
Where associating with black people is stigmatised
That one time u don’t regret clicking TH-cam recommendations. This show is exactly what I’ve been missing! What a great interviewer 💐🙌
Literally me sis, it was a TH-cam recommendation and i'm glad i didn't keep on scrowling.
Magadibo wa ka......
I am married to a white man.we are blessed with two boys.
I relate very well with what she is saying
She is blessed
And stay blessed
God bless your family and your union Lol 💕💕🥂
Beautiful story. Learned so much from her as a black South African. I am proud of her for choosing herself. What a beautiful story. We can be a beautiful world if we can come out of our comfort zone n learn each other's cultures. We are all human. Her story taught me that u can love whoever u want irrespective of race because love doesn't see colour.
She lost me when she said “I’ve never had white privilege…I hustled for everything I have” 😒 that’s not what white privilege is and I’m glad Relebogile broke it down perfectly.
I can see what she’s doing
Me too, she was shocked she wouldn't be able to get apartments in some places in Capetown , she had no idea, she said "oh Gs", & that's white privilege right there.
@@thato4579 sorry, Cape Town is very inclusive, more than the other provinces.
We always have to explain privilege to white people as if they don’t have capacity to understand it…
@@realteawithsandy1366 to be honest, Sandra, no one was born racist..we are tired of the race card. Not all racists are white and not all whites are racists. We as women, should stop, bullying each other, and build a better society for our children.
I am also Afrikaans and also feel that sense of belonging in the African community. I love my country and all its people
And you are welcome.....
Sho moghel, do u n be happy! 😊
Amen to that 👏👏💕❤.
Proudly South African. 🇿🇦
Go tell that to your racist people. Your love does not change all the people who suffered and continue to suffer due to the years of apartheid.
@@lekis5975 everyone is still suffering, almost 30 years later, nothing has changed. Get your head out of the cloud. Lord have mercy.
Girl is just living her life. No explanation needed.
Relebogile you are actually very good at what you do!
Thank you!! 🙏🏾
OMG!!! She is awesome!!!
Relebogile, all I can say about your interviewing skills is that...YOU ROCK!!!❤
When she went “that’s a deep question” I thought “welcome to the show, Relebogile unpacks that way” 😹😹 I love this channel so much. Learning a lot and binging it too
Your perception of me is a reflection of you, my reaction to you is an awareness of me ☯️
You have such a beautiful spirit. I'm pretty sure someone took something powerful from this interview. I wish you all the best DutchAz
You are beautiful...and oh don't worry ...continue teaching all of us that humanity. I'm married a to a white man and up to now I'm learning to educate my own people.....they myths out there are hilarious!!!! So I am immersing myself in the German culture.....💜💜💜💜🇸🇿🇩🇪🇸🇿🇩🇪
I can tell you are so genuine and you are awesome. I enjoyed your openness and willingness to listen when the whole thing of white privilege was brought up. Keep fighting the good HUMAN fight.
Wena! keep doing you Neh Lovie😘😘😘✌️love from USA
Your views are so intricate.
We very much relate much to your experience. It is SOO sad that this is happening in 2021, thought society would be accepting now. I'm black, my wife's white, we were married in 2003. We always felt safe and accepted EKasi and were viewed as a symbol of hope for the new South Africa. We faced so much hostility in white neighbourhoods, we were an offence to white people, in restaurants we would experience white people in the next table not enjoying their meal because of our presence. We have two beautiful daughters 10 and 8, my wife gets comments like "How nice of you to adopt black kids" to which she would respond and embarrass the person passing that comment. Once in a while we do have "The talk" with our kids just to prepare them for the real world the we sadly live in. Proud of you girl! just live your life, whoever has a problem, it is their problem not yours.
It's very sad to imagine how you have to prepare the next generation, please tell them the truth and the truth only, I wish you well in the upbringing of your kids.
Bathong! When did this channel started. Ms Rele you are the best. You just know how to connect the dots. I subscribed 🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦
Started recently so you are not too late!
Butle ngwaneso, where are you from?
I speak Sotho and your opening word of Bathong! Makes me wonder if namibians spaeak a similar language. ❤
@@sidwell_MH he's from Namibia judging from the flags emoji, and there are Sestwana speaking people here in Namibia including myself.
@@kumahrhonga8442 ok Wow. I love you guys stay blessed.
Is Setswana one of your official Languages?
@@relebogilemabotja215 I saw it on my suggested views 2 weeks ago. Thank you so much for meaningful content. This is not pretentious at, all. Real issues from real people. Keep it up my sister. Love from Botswana 🇧🇼 🇧🇼 🇧🇼
By the way, I subscribed ☺
I feel like she needs therapy, she's still very much afraid to call a spade a spade.. she's still traumatized by their bullying stunts . She's playing safe not to rub anyone the wrong way. She's so afraid I feel it in her voice and the way she candy quotes.. She keep say , it isn't a thing. I feel for her. Afrikaans people are really toxic and a danger to themselves. Too sad . I applaud her for taking a stand even whn she feels afraid. It takes a lot of guts. Love and light to you❤
If you don't know all the stories please don't mess it up .
May be where you come from in Africa are bad between themselves . Hatred is everywhere.
Look,I'm really glad 4 her. But to be honest "self preservation" is a thing. I can't believe she really believes she's totally fine with crossing over 100%. Her comment on not ever being able to date an Afrikaans dude coz she's gone black,I wondered if deep down she wishes otherwise. I lived in a small town in Manchester and was surrounded by white people,I went to all white multiracial schools,was engaged to a white man...but whenever i saw a black face...I used to feel happy and almost like a sense of home. I'm not racist,but I've grown to understand that self preservation is inherent & it's ok to own it . All in all,I dowish her all the best,& glad that she chose herself first!
@@amandamakhoba1314 there is nothing wrong with that i have worked in all white towns with no issues but so elated if i saw a black man or person got pretty happy with the usual nods of heads for approval you do not even have to talk, there is nothing wrong i believe in feeling your crowd or herd but everything wrong by being labelled racist just because you identify with your race despite you how you choose to interact, She is confident in her position and there is no need to push to have a strong position, I clearly get what she means when she says in not a thing... its a loaded statement to anyone with a keen ear, and we cant deny what her experience is and how she sees her world what she chooses to say or not say, she has also pointed its an issue she has never discussed with family.... probably sometimes some things are better left alone if no one has confronted you or left you alone as long as you are happy to live your life. i wish her the best too its never going to be easy taking flake from both sides
In this regard I think Lebo chocked her by claiming to know other Afrikaaners who are open minded. No matter how Lebo can interact with whites, she can't match her. There's always something Lebo won't get from these people because of her being a public figure.
On the other hand, Kasi is one of them and has experience of what she be saying. Lebo has to broaden her horizons too.
“ Ifeel for her. Afrikaans people are really toxic and a danger to themselves””
OH REALLY,????
Thinking or saying that is the problem
If you do not have anything nice to say about someone rather don’t say anything..
Thank you Relebogile for explaining white privilige to someone who did not understand it! Hopefully many more will learn while watching!
Am I the only one who thinks Relebogile's voice sounds like that of Anele Mdoda? I love them both. Powerful phenomenal women
Wow.. I never realised that until now.. So true. If she spoke on radio I would definitely think it's Anele
They do sound so much alike
Don't mind me... Just subscribing...
There is something unique about this. Interviewing ordinary people not just celebs. I love this... So awesome and with soo much potential 👊
Thanks for the sub!
Very interesting interview. I am similar but not from South Africa, I've been here since 2015, but have still experienced and still am experiencing some of these same things. As someone who was raised in the black and indian community and have had very few white friends, we are all equal..... As long as we choose to see it that way. Relebogile, I would love to have a chat with you sometime about all this and hear your side as well.
What's your Instagram?
👏really eye opening
We all equal? That’s factually not true.
@@realteawithsandy1366 Like I said, we have to choose to see it that way. Unfortunately some think we aren't the same and a lot of the time (not all) that is why they will always be fighting
@@lifeofdtw9694 we cant just ignore the black experience just because white people want us to so they can feel better about the way they have treated us and still do. white people have taken NO accountability for what they have done and how they still benefit and its actually insulting to keep asking black people to turn a blind eye while they continue to be oppressive. these imaginary grey areas that white people want us to live in ...or rather the farce they want us to buy into is just so disrespectful. This woman speaks so boldly about being the space to be herself ( whatever that means) ...BLACK people afforded her that. lets remember that. Also the space to be herself ...its such a confusing statement...you can not be a part of a culture and not understand the experience of that culture. I dont fall for these weak narratives.
Relebogile you are number 1 host in SA.Any platform to have you it's a blessing & luck, your voice, your personality,you connect everywhere."Perfect"I THINK WE'VE GOT.... Oprah Winfrey in SA.
Relebogile.....am gonna give you a blessing name that will carry you.The Name is "WATER".
"I need not have to explain myself to anyone"yess girl,you owe nobody anything
I want to live in a South Africa that is for all South Africans that live in it. Where there's no space for systematic issues. We have a sordid history, absolutely, but this blame game should end, All parties should unite. We need a United Reformed South Africa.
When mentioned KFC I thought aahh black people love chicken, I didn't see the explanation coming
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Me too...🤭🤣
😂😂😂😂😂i knew F is fucken but was like vele we fucken love chicken so what.. but boom the meaning so deep they need to rest maaan
Lmao same😂😂😂
Sesi Relebogile re leboga channel ya gago ngwanagesho. This interview was insightful, I’m also having issues of tribalism and homophobia in KZN because I’m a coloured looking Pedi man dating an Indian man. The things we go through as South Africans in this day and age are appalling.
Relebogile realeboga for making her feel comfortable to share her story and I also like that you still asked the necessary questions that allowed you to probe deeper.... wow the kfc phrase is such an eye opener
Bathong, I'll never see KFC the same again 🤣💀☠️
The peace of knowing your identity and what you identify with, without feeling bad or ashamed about it is hella important. I wish as country we could accept this of each other. That will be the beginning of healing as a country and we'll learn things from each other openly as different races.
sensible girl
CHUCKLING.. ;)
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Teach your daughter to be comfortable in the skin that she is in. She will make it. Just love her as a mom
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This was a great interview and discussion between two intelligent women, both the interviewee and the interviewer. I wish both of them well, and their positive mindsets are dearly needed in the still problematic and racially divided post-Apartheid society of South Africa.
Rele's interviewing skills👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Let People be People for themselves and their own Peace,
Good work Relebogile
The fact that this is a 'thing'. That there's an interview like this in *South Africa* just baffles me completely.
Relebogile, your interviewing skills though🔥🔥🔥
Loved how she said "Huisegenoot Cover" hahahaha ooooooh bethuna! These conversations are eye opening.
We as black people will always show love to everyone that shows love to us. You are one of us, ubuntu.
True
No, she is not one of us. These people will never consider you as one of them.
No Black people show love to everyone but Black people 😢
@@lesegomorapane6529 💯
@@lesegomorapane6529 sadly 💔
Oh my word it is you! Hey girl, great topics love ur show. Thanks for the awesome reminder of our choir days lol!
What I've picked up from this conversation is that dating outside one's race is deemed as either an "upgrade" or a "downgrade" in terms of social class, and/or creed.
Separation from family, based on the ethnicity of one's romantic partner suggests that racism is so deeply entrenched in certain families that it is actually part of their culture.
Once something becomes part of one's culture, it is almost impossible to dismantle or remove.
I don't think racism will ever end, so long as those that benefit from it, economically and otherwise, fail to remove it from their belief system altogether.
Its just basic human psychology. In order to survive in ancient times, people needed to stick very tightly together with their group to survive. To know who is your group means to know who is NOT your group; and this is an aspect of human psychology that will never change, just like our need to gossip, socialize, compete, or have sex. Its instinct to separate yourself and ur family from the others; wether its based on race, tribe, class, whatever, people will always find a way to group themselves together and others apart. U cant have the good of humanity without the ugly, because its only in contrast to the ugly that we know what beauty is.
@@Algimantaz lol racist rationalizing bullshit as "human psychology"
I watched White On the Outside-Black on the inside show. LAdy, you are soo powerful. Keep up the good work
Wuuuuu this channel is fantastic. Love your interviewing skill. You listen and give time to your interviewee to speak. You ask leading questions that then make it easier for people phrase their answers. How did youtube hide this gem from me?? Thank goodness a video was recommended today and i guess i'm binge watching.
@morgana93 I like your Wuuuuu 🙂
This is amazing, I really enjoyed this interview!!
We all human after all, I love you gal. Thanks ausi Relebogile.🥰💥
She is so honest, n fact that she is content with who she is and unapologetic about it is so beautiful 💯😊
She's dated a black guy but has never experienced white privilege. My hubby who is white is greeted by Sir at the checkout. They just say: Plastic to me. He calls them out all the time. If you don't educate yourself, speak the language then it's cultural expropriation. Go deep or don't at all
It is in the nuances
It is in the nuances
So true. I became very conscious of White privilege when I dated a white man, it is unsettling that she is not aware of it. With her words she explained that according to society dating black is downgrading and dating white is upgrading and yet she hasnt connected the dots. She still needs to do a lot of Reflection.
Thanks for such a great conversation. Your questions were well throughout and meaningful. Thanks to both of you!!!
When it comes to race, the world is a sad place. God created all men equal yet some groups think they are better, how very empty and sad. It's melanin or the lack thereof that has become such a devastating deal. I love the fact that I have alot of melanin as part of the human race
I like your mentality girl . You are building a world for all humans to live as people and to appreciate each other.
Loved the interview. Thank you. Very important topic. Something I've experienced myself and still very much struggling with (esp finding the balance between lovingly trying to educate people/ keeping my own peace). Relebogile, I admire your insane interview skills. Sharp questions, even helping your guest to bring out her view, but always leaving her feeling respected and heard. Respect sis!
DJ Kasi, I admire your strength and power to fight for what you believe in. And by doing so, creating a hopefully more tolerant society for your daughter to live in. Keep that open mind, learn more about privileges but above all, thank you for showing everyone how to live with an open heart. Much love to you, your husband and gorgeous girl.
I think she is the ambassador of transformation. She has been annointed to bring different races and cultures together. God bless her, protect her and continue giving her peace.
Hey sis Relebogile. Please would you add captions for us who are hard at hearing. Love your show
Hey. You can add subtitles by tapping on the "cc" box (top right hand corner). Not the best, but it's something. Hope this helps.
@@HrwithSane I was about to say that 🥰
Thanks Sane. I Learn sonething
I feel her, she is us, we are her. I am sure we can also accept Marie because of her upbringing
I feel like this one is different from Marie.. This one as much as she identifies as black and is fully vested in the "kasi culture", she still acknowledges her white upbringing and still associates with parts of that culture. Marie does not want anything to do with blackness and there is so much self hate from her.
@@mphihlengmagoro2957 no Marie didn’t say she doesn’t want anything to do with black people
@@mphihlengmagoro2957 self hate? There’s nothing wrong with her choosing how she lives her life.
Think south AFRIKKKANS should accept the new reality or swim to Antarctica!
@My_name_is_Poetry M how is her embracing the black community harmful? I just want to understand where you are coming from
Your parents are very proud of you as well as us South African n we love you I wish you all the best bafo akuphathekshle
Her parents disowned her apparently
We all gods.. We create our own
world... Thanks sis ree.. It's my first time watching the show... . it's purposeful and visionary... You and ur team have created something special...
Thank you for taking time out to explain the 'privilege' part Relebogile, I was starting to get irritated. And I am so glad that she took time to understand and get education. She is very courages, we know her experience of being ostracised because that's our everyday life. I Hope she grows stronger and bolder.
All I see is a beautiful soul. Live your best life queen and enjoy your journey. Nothing is a thing... just be you as you are. It's not about "black or white" but human beings. Much respect and love from this side.
My husband lost ALL of his friends when he started dating me and my friends were admiring me for dating him. I really hated this backward slave thinking! Even going to shops the tellers would ask if I could hook them up with a white man 🙄. I think we as black people need to start loving ourselves and each other and know who we actually are we used to be Kings and Queens!! Until we were oppressed and made to feel less than and the mentality is still on-going in 2021!
You're hit the nail on its head!
This is why #MarcusGarvey told us to study #Ethnology.
#BlackRootsScience 🏔
#MarcusGarvey
#MessageToThePeople
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Very true. It's never an upgrade
hai your comment took me back to last weekend at a wedding my relatives calling me a white person as a way to compliment my beauty. its so sad
Louder!!! For the people in the back... Black people need to get over our self-hate! 🔊 🔊🔊🔊🔊
I love her, I like her....am glad the African community accepts her as one of us...... in that same sense, let's respect Marie's decision and choice to be white. Love you Lebo 😍
And that's the thing. It's always and I mean always black people to be so loving and welcoming but not the other way around.
Aah sisi, you really are a DUTCHESS! I appreciate you 🙏 such pure but gentle energy I am getting here.
Relebogile you are doing the most!!!! Superb interviewing skills!
You are georges Anita, just live your life as long as you're happy, the rest shouldn't really matter. Be you and do you we shouldn't be defined by the color of our skin as to who we wanna be with being friends or relationships wise..sending love from Namibia. 💕💕
I'm 7 minutes in and I'm in tears. This is because racism is real, y'all. It's so sad to still be dealing with racism in 2023. I'm hurting for this lady and wish her all the best in life. May God bless everyone who genuinely respects and loves people of all races. It's a godly thing to do. Hugs from a black woman.
Great conversation. I love her story & admire her honesty. She seems like someone who is attracted to genuine souls irrespective of background and that's a beautiful thing if that's the case. we need people.
She is a warrior of humanity and love!Racism is going to be washed off definitively coz the love she radiates will always win.Love wins!!
Love really does always win!
Dumile, when Racism washed away, send me that magic pill.
@@carmennicholson2867 I will make sure its delivered ryt to your doorstep!Racism exists because of lack of understanding tackled with selfishness and these days the world is coming together to be a rather small village in terms on internet and social media reach.Love lives!!
"Treat people as humans as they're not based on race that they're "😊♥️👏
I really cannot keep up with these uploads. Great job Rele and the team.
I'm happy for her that she has found peace within.I feel like the whole thing is projected to be racial.it just looks to me that she's just seeing souls because if we dig deep she does not know that much h about the african culture and that's ok.Shes just happy and something clicked for her.Shes still young and life is a great teacher.Im sure later in life she might realize that it's not about her saying she'll never go back to dating an afrikaners.love is love she might still fall in love with an afrikaaner.who says life is not going to happen and her boyfriend might fall in love with a black girl.I hope she will open her horizons.This is a swati man after all the prospects of another woman are there...you are a beautiful girl ,beautiful soul.I admire your strength and courage..may you be blessed on your life journey
i love your questions Lebo, you ask really important questions. Big UPS. you just earned a new subscriber.
Professional interview and not boring at all
Honestly, the word KFC Brought me here.
And ended up following the channel and the interviewer is amazing.
I love DJ Khasi but I didn't know your story at all. You opened my eyes so far and beyond the word racism.
Proud you women 💃
Lots of love from Windhoek,Namibia 🇳🇦.
I really enjoyed listening to Anita, love conquers all nagetive energy her love for human beings is inborn ❤ God will protect her and her child and family. Thank you, unpack team.
What a tremendously courageous woman, like the Zulu warriors of old at the battle of Isandlwana who courageously stood their ground against the British rifles and the cannons, she stood her ground against the rifles of racism and the cannons of prejudice. She endured abuse at the hands of those who loved her conditionally, yet Inspite of the treacherous conditions she was subjected to.. she endured and prevailed in her persuit for justice and inner peace. Kudos to the presenter and the team.
Don’t be disrespectful by comparing her to my people who sacrificed their lives fighting her ancestors. Wtf is wrong with u?
Pardon my ignorance, I didn't know you have exclusive copyrights to Zulu history and that your people are so high and mighty that nothing and no-one compares to them. I will tread carefully next time.
@My_name_is_Poetry M I can compare her to the zulus
@My_name_is_Poetry M Are you not able to put your point across without resorting to profanity?
@@bandile21 💯🎯👏👏👏👏👏✊🔥✊🔥✊🔥
Lebo! So proud to see you doing this great work. ♡
Thank you 😊
This makes me really proud to be a black SAn... we’re so welcoming ❤️
I love you girl, we need more people like you to make our country a better place to live in truly ❤. Actually we need each other to make this country better. Colour aside my fellow peopleeeee🙏
What an amazing interview. I wish there were more non-black people like you who truely embrace being South African. Please keep up the great work you are doing Relebogile. Dj Kasi DuchAz thank you for having a beautiful soul sis wami.
We ntombi, i even subscribed to your channel, dope, ayke sana, you are one of us
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She need to teach Marie one or two things, thank u! your story will open a lot of Euro African youth eyes and their racist parents
I feel like Anita was kind of biting her tongue a bit in answering some questions or maybe she had trouble putting her thoughts into words. Good interview though❤️
She had to be careful with her wording. Black people we are very sensitive when it comes to these kind of conversations or discussions.
@@arthaisaaxx6173 I also feel like she didn't want to offend white people as well.
@@arthaisaaxx6173true,she was kind of walking on egg shells
she had to be very very careful because you might be in trouble 🤔
I think being yourself is always gonna be difficult as the society will expect some explanation of why you do things a certain way, but sometimes you need not go to deep in explanation but say "I am being myself". Some of the questions she was asked are hard, you have to admit, but most deserve the same answer of "I am being myself"
Relebogile, stellar stellar job. Loving this show and learning so much
Relebogile Mabotja, the best interviewer. Very flexible, wonderful and exceptional questioning.
Well, unfortunately, she is totally unaware of how some Black women see themselves. Their idea of beauty is influenced by white concepts of beauty? ( a lot).
Skin bleaching, straightening hair with chemicals and / or wearing straight weaves and wigs. ( even some surgically alter their bodies too).
Everyone wants to look like the fashion model.
Are you negating what I said about her?
Interview so nice, it is as if it was rehearsed. Wow!! 🤙🏽
Very interesting conversation. Loved it
I'm really glad I came across this channel. Maybe a future topic would be how to race mixed race kids... something in those lines. I'm african, married to a European and I have mixed race children. It wasn't a big deal for me when we lived in Africa. I somehow thought I could just bring them up. We moved to Europe, and I realised there's certain conversations we need to have with our children. I'm not sure how to navigate this topic with my husband as well, who does not even need to think about this, not realising, we are, will be, treated different from him. How do we give our kids the tools to navigate this life and bring them up confident and comfortable in their skin.. its frustrating
The white privilege lesson was so awesome 👌🏽. Now she will have a different perspective of it.Great episode!
I’m proud of this young woman
This lady is so inspiring. I love these conversations and wish we could discuss our differences more.
Black African here and I no longer subscribe to being held accountable or feeling accountable to trash relatives. To be fair; distance helps.
Im just so in love with this lady's honesty
She's gorgeous, pleasant, lucky black guy. We must all welcome her in townships and protect her from bad guys ekasi. She genuinely loves black lifestyle. She someone you would want in a braai with friends
These are some hard questions hey :) I don't think we have answers for everything. but this was very informative. great show!! new subbie :):)
Leboo, you are brilliant at what you do. Thank you for a great conversation. Also, I love your guest
First time watching Unpacked. I'm 40 minutes in and I just checked for the third time if I'm subscribed to the channel...
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Relebogile asking the right questions yu go girl 🇧🇼
Relebogile is my celebrity crush
We can all agree that Black South Africans 🇿🇦 are warm and welcoming people, they love people of all backgrounds, love, peace, prosperity, like good vibes, amapiano 🎵and so many more.
Black Americans are enjoying it here and few other whites are also becoming themselves and enjoying South Africa instead of internalised fear. Yes we have many problems to still overcome but yeah it's happening.
Black Americans and whites? What about Africans from other countries?
@@lekis5975 yes as black African from another country, I love this country like my own
@@aliciamomat7963 Does the country love you back, is what I'm asking.
See how he said ‘black Americans’
Africans we still have a long way to go.
Lol ni lost Yaz . The hatred you have towards South Africa is very sad. South Africa welcomes all nationalities, we are naturally welcoming people. We love black Africans, I myself work with other African brothers. I advocate for better South Africa, where rule of law is observed. I therefore welcome you to to come and enjoy. It's beautiful here. Cia
Relebogile girl!!! i love your interviewing skills, your so intelligent!! You are making things happen.
The questions Rele asked made this very interesting.
She's a natural ✨
This lady must send her child to a Waldorf school. The best interracial school in SA
When DJ Kasi speaks, her hand gestures are truly African..... 😍... This is South Africa, u choose where u r comfortable.....
What i know about black ppl is that when you show them love, they love u more... regardless of the race...
We love you gal 😍😍😍
Great content 👌keep up the good work
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