I just bought a 2.7l ecoboost, you guys helped me the whole way. Love the truck, it does not feel like a small v6 is under the hood and it got 21mpg coming from phx to la with 5 people in it. For anyone that's still curious, test drive one, it'll surprise you. Thanks again and love your channel
Tim Parker I have a 2018 and use it to tow and 5500lb travel trailer. It goes up steep hills like a champ. I can easily hit 80 mph going up the grapevine in CA. Around town with no trailer I get 22 mpg. Towing on flat ground I avg 12-14 mpg.
Guys coming up in my 45k oil change on my 2.7 EB, nearly 3 years ownership and thank the Lord not a single problem, love the truck and the engine, ain’t nothing like a full size truck, never once missed my old Tacomas.
I would've never even considered the 2.7 EB until I watched this. After seeing this, I test drove the f150 with the 2.7, loved it and bought it. Now, I'm towing every day with this truck, and couldn't be happier.
I just bought a used 2015 F-150 lariat with the 3.5L Ecoboost. Upgrading from the 2.3L Ecoboost in my 2017 Explorer; holy crap this thing wants to fly. Highway mileage in my first 275 miles has been 19mpg and climbing (has some long idles and city darting). It has 67000 miles currently and we’re going to use it for pulling around a couple of horses in the future. Definitely glad I got it, and we’re enjoying a much smoother and nicer ride. I would have been just as happy if it had the 2.7L, but the 3.5L is just awesome.
I just got my 2017 f150 xl 2.7 ecoboost today after watching many tow videos of this engine. I have had 3 silverados(well one 2500 sierra) and the torque and hp numbers of these ford motors were impressing me, and the videos impressed me in that they were not being doggy when pulling. I travel doing welding and pull an 18 foot camper. Was doing it with my Silverado 4.3 stick shift, and it pulled it fine, i would just get 16 mpg when not pulling. After driving the 2.7 i was impressed to the point I ended up purchasing it. Also got $4050 in rebates from ford so got a very good deal. Thank you guys for your work. You made me feel a lot better about my purchase decision as well as help me make it with your tow videos. (I even drove an ecodiesel which was VERY nice, i just didnt want to pay the price they wanted)
If the 3.5 had a 3.55 or 3.73 rear end it would of felt way different that being said I am really impressed with the 2.7, that thing is quick. I also love the 5 liter coyote but these guys that are saying bad about the EB engines and praising the 5.0 would be really shocked if they seen that V8 attempting to keep up with the EB V6s.
I have a 2013 F150 3.5 ecoboost with the max tow pckg. (3.73) rear end. I pulled my 7000 lb. travel trailer 1350 miles. Never an issue with power, but I only got 6.9 mpg for the trip running between 65-70 mph.
I ordered and am awaiting delivery of a 2016 F-150 Platinum SuperCrew 3.5L 4x4 loaded. I know it's a fortune to pay for a truck but as someone who was considering a high end SUV but ultimately wanted the advantages/flexibility of a truck, this model for me had all the luxury of what i would've wanted in the SUV. I know everyone who has commented already will say I'm stupid but I'm sure there are some of you who buy Snap-On versus Craftsman even knowing both will do the same job and have the same warranty.
I cannot wrap my brain around the amount of work and size vehicle being moved by the same displacement as the Stratus v6, 80s Camry v6, and old chevy base model Camaro/blazer engine. Blows my mind!
It'd be interesting to see a comparison of both Ecoboost V6s and the 5.0, all with the same trim package, drive train and rear end, and all either ext. cab or 4 door. That way the only difference between the 3 would be the engine
All the people complaining about the price of the truck need to study an options list. For all the big 3. You can get into one of these trucks for the low 40s. It won't be a heavily optioned. The 502a option to get the lane assist/adaptive cruise is huge package of equipment. Which is why the option is 8k. But it turns the truck in a luxury car. It's an amazing amount of tech that works extremely well.
You make it sound like the 3.5L is going to cost $15000 more than the 2.7L, you're comparing two different trucks. The 3.5L will only run an extra $1200 over the 2.7L.
+Steve O'Donnell Its simple. If you tow often and heavy equipment, the 3.5l is the way to go. If your not going to tow often and stay below 7k lbs the 2.7l is the way to go. the fuel savings is nice.
I see a lot of people commenting about the price of the truck and scoffing at it. I have NEVER paid sticker price on any vehicle I have ever bought. Seriously, the only thing that is nuts is people believing that you HAVE to pay sticker price. I just bought a 2015 XLT with the sport appearance, tow and 301a packages. Its loaded with all sorts of goodies and the 2.7l Eco with 3.73 gears. Sticker price was $51,000. I paid $42,000. I am in Canada as well, and vehicles are a bit more expensive here...
I just bought a 2015 with the 2.7. i like it a lot it has so much more down low than i was expecting. Did the air oil separator and an intake already lol
I've read too many articles stating how the 2.7 is a faster truck compared to the 3.5 and same was said in this video but at least you brought up the difference with the axle ratios. It's almost like Ford paid people to advertise the 2.7 as a better, faster option even though real side by side 0-60 times prove otherwise. I'm in a rental with a 2.7 and it does 0-60 in 6.45 seconds, pretty fast! But my 2015 with the 3.5 does it in under 6 seconds with a 3.55 rear axle. All the articles out there are simply misleading!
The 3.5 almost tried to overheat that surprises me but the 2.7 stay perfect temp. Also there was a point there where the 3.5 was on and off boost at full throttle might be something wrong with it
the best deal on these new f150s is to go for the xl with the sport appearance package. You can get the 2.7 ecoboost with 3.73 gears and all the goods for far cheaper than the "upscale models"
I'd like to thank you for the great job you do. Videos like this helped me be confident in the decision to purchase an F150 with the 2.7L Ecoboost. Plus, I just enjoy and respect your hard work bringing us great videos.
Some still may think or assume that the 2.7 is just too small. Just drive one. Has the get up and go of a big block but gets 25mpg on highway (quite easily) w 10 speed and 21mpg round town. Better that the ratings.
I personally got the 2.7, I dont tow anything and it was cheaper than the 3.5. The 2.7 works fine for what I need it for. It has plenty of power and is still relatively good on gas.
Hello I just wanted to point out a couple of errors, the F150 with a 3.5 Eco boost and 331 rear end is not rated to pull 10,700 lbs. In order to pull 10,700 lbs you need to order the trailer Max package which comes with 355 gears you can also option a 373 rear end for greater pulling acceleration. I know this as I just built a new 2016 f150 and read the fine print about max towing 😄! Maybe it was different in 2015 but I doubt it, manufactures always tout there product with Max towing figures then have a disclaimer (when properly optioned) lol
this is the issue with these reviews, YES, its hard to compare exact trucks, but this episode is a great example, YOU can get these engines in different configurations, and practically the same at that, and if you did a flat comparison you would notice that you only pay an extra grand for the 2.7, rear end ratios matter, and you can get the same in both, and that the 2.7 is geared more like the 3.5 was originally, towards light towing and city driving and the new 3.5 is geared to match, if not exceed the v8's in terms of towing and performance. honestly it comes down to application, if you do heavy towing, lots of altitude change or want a big truck, get the 3.5, if you want something for the city that can do weekend hauling or light holidaying, get the 2.7, and if your deadset on the sound and performance of an na v8 get the 5.0, its pretty simple.
Love the videos! Only problem I had was y'all based yalls choice on price in the when really the price difference of getting the 2.7 over the 3.5 isn't nearly that much. Y'all had different trim lvls
I think you guys need to consider that shield you guys put on the trailer is causing more drag than you think. I would like to see if you can or at least make a run off camera to save time and see how the 2.7 does with the shield. About a year ago you guys had a 3.5 ecoboost with the horse trailer at 10k and it had a ton of power that you had to back off a few times. I love your videos keep up the great work. Congrats on the new watch!
ill stick with my 2015 base model v6. extended cab sport package. i bought it used with only 2400 miles on it n got it for $24,500. pretty badass truck for the small engine
I love these videos, but a nice print out screen showing the various weights used, weight capacities, power/torque, rated MPG, guantlet MPG, etc at the end would be very nice. AND, put in some performance comparison numbers in a second table showing how it stacks up to the competition you have tested.
Although that 2.7 is impressive I agree with Robert Greenlee. you are comparing 2 different trucks ,Gear ratio and also the 2.7 was a super cab against a super crew which might add to the 3.5 feeling more sluggish.
Don't buy an ecoboost if you plan on doing any exhaust. I own the 3.5L and it doesn't sound terrible? But definitely not what I'd like. Go for the 5.0 if you want to do exhaust work. The 3.5L is a powerhouse though, I love it for that fact!
A lot of people (including myself) would love to see this test with the 5.0L V8. It has the highest horsepower of the three and a respectable torque rating.
+travelguy78 Diesel also gives you less HP so it takes more energy to get to speed, more expensive maintenance and more frequent oil change intervals (you better not miss an oil change!), def fluid refills and they have just as many problems as gas engines nowadays. All the emissions crap really kills the reliability and longevity of these trucks. What could be said about diesels 20 years ago can't be said about them today.
+Daniel Bell 20.000km / 12.000 miles service intervalls is what my cars had and some push it to 40.000km (Peugot 407 HDI), so please explain what you mean with more frequent oil changes. I do not understand what you mean that a diesel gives you less HP and that it takes more energy to get to speed. The laws of physics regarding how much energy it takes to get to a certain speed have not been changed (as far as i know). A diesel engine block is normally a bit heavier, so we can add 3% to the weight of the car, but considering that 1gallon of diesel contains quite a lot more energy its reasonable that it will get more gas milage. Does not have any experience with Diesels after 2010, so something might have happened, but according to Audi they still have a 20km service interval for their cars.
+Marc Monson They already loaded them THE SAME WEIGHT and the 6.2 was SLOWER. You think adding another 500 or 1000 lbs will change that? The nice thing about these real world tests is that you get to see the benefits of the turbo engine when climbing high altitude. The Chevy lost a good 30% or so of it's power. The Ford was likely close to the max power since the turbos can just spool a little faster in the less dense air and the computer will still regulate it at approx the same PSI of boost.
Marc Monson I did tow a 7700 Lb 20 foot toy hauler with my 4.7 Liter Dodge Dakota 4 door 4X4 about 10 years ago. That was over it's rating for sure. But I did install 4.56 gears, Firestone Air Bags and a few other cool things so it was not stock by any means. It did ok but on the last grade getting up to Flagstaff it dropped to 45 mph and needed 2nd gear.
Daniel Lockwood I agree. I know the EcoBoosts are impressive motors but no one is testing the 5.0. If I buy a new F150 it will be the 5.0 over the 3.5/2.7 just for the exhaust not alone.
+C-grunt The non turbo 5.0 will loose 20% of it's power at elevation. Plus the turbo engine makes it's FULL TORQUE from 2,000- to near redline. The 3.5 TT will probably outpull the 5.0 pretty easy. It already out pulled the bigger Chevy and Nissan V8's. Especially on this high altitude mountain grade.
+Daniel Lockwood not in high country where they tested at (Colorado). we're talking base elevation of 5k in the plains to 11k at the tunnel. Density altitude ranges from 7k to 14k depending on the weather. That's a 25-35% drop in power. Hence why they created those things called "atmospheric compensators" to reduce the effect of elevation. AKA turbochargers.
+Daniel Lockwood I can tell you from first hand experience that the 3.5 EcoBoost blows the 5.0 out of the water. I like the V8 exhaust note too but I could live without it if I had to.
I'd get the 3.5L. If you're going to get an over engineered, complicated, expensive and high strung engine, you might as well get the one with more power.
You say engine doesn't figure it tow/haul ratings but aren't the chassis breaks and suspension the same in the 2015 F 150 trucks you tested and the only difference was the engine? Pls explain thx
A great thanks to Roman Mica and Mr. Truck (Kent) for providing all these great reviews. I love watching this channel, and especially like the comparison tests, like this one, or the Navigator VS Escalade review. As such, is there any way that you can do a comparison test, or a least a review, on the towing characteristics of a full sized van? The Chevy Express and/ or Nissan NV come to mind, as they are both truck platform based vans, have a good selection of engines, and can come either as a passenger or cargo van. I think they can tow up to 10,000 and 9500 lbs when properly equipped. Either of these, or any other truck based van would make a great Ike Gauntlet contender. P.S, I'm also curious to see the mileage difference between the pickup and van versions of the same platform when towing, seeing as how a pickup is probably lighter but a van is probably more aerodynamic thanks to it's flat roof.
I got the 3.5 in STX trim and love it. Too bad ford didn't send more comparable trucks. If I'm spending 61 grand I want a super duty not massaging seats in an F150. Wasn't really a fair comparison in that sense.
2.7 with 3.55 rear end and supercab vs 3.5 l with 3.31 rear end and crew cab? It would have been nice to see what the 3.5 with 3.55 rear end would have been like.
Roman's price comparison made no sense as the two trucks were so differently equipped; it was more of a price comparison of a King Ranch crew cab to a simpler model extended cab than a price comparison of a 3.5 to a 2.7. And the big gas tank, not the small one, is the option.
How long will them Ecoboost last. I want one but I am only buying one new truck I plan on driving it till the wheels fall off. Or should I buy a Chevy Silverado 1500 or Toyota tundra.
Great review. Thanks you guys. I just that 3.5 Ford is overpriced for the actually value. Come back to me in a few years and I am curious what the resale is.
I love how people think the King Ranch is the TOP TOP TOP of the line... Its like, seriously? Did you not know about the Platinum or Limited? 3.5 or 2.7 you cant go wrong.
It was not the same truck. One was a lariat double cab one was a king ranch crew cab. These both are factors in price. As for performance, it is all about axle ratio
So a bargain basement, base model, short bed, 2wd, 2.7l ecoboost with a 3.55 axle ratio and no payload should haul ass then right? Gonna go look at one tomorrow. :D
The 2.7 has great throttle response but the gas mileage is horrible when just towing a 4 wheeler and some tools. The v8 would be a better option for towing.
mabey you should ask the tech's at a ford dealer how the new ecoboosts are doing/ the local one for me stated they are fixing oil leaks like crazy on trucks with less then 1500 km's, least a gm and fiats waits till 30k before it starts leaking. but the engines do work dam good but in the end of the day everyone just needs to try all 3 trucks and see which they like
It's funny to rewatch these as I'm looking for a replacement for my current F-150. They're talking about how the 3.5 is $61,000. Now that truck is even more sadly. These Ecoboost's are impervious.
Roman, can we see a MAXED out run? I love listening to these engines sing for 10 minutes at wide open throttle. I'd rather they go 50mph and roar than cruise at 70.
Good comparison however I'm old fashioned and like v8s. Any chance you could get the five liter and pull the same trailer. I would love to see how it compares
won't be good. everyday driving sure, but those mountains really make those turbo's look good, can't beat forced induction when you start running out of air. nothing against TFL, but if you want to see a towing test between the two, and you don't live in high elevation, I'd suggest a different reviewer. again, not knocking TFL, they live in Colorado, so they test there. if you don't, then understand all TFL videos are going to heavily favor forced induction.
I really think that you guys need to tell your viewers that the Ford EcoBoost engines are NOT Flex Fuel Capable. That might be important to some people. Personally, I am against the whole thing of forcing people to use ethanol. We were all told that it would be cheaper and I have not seen that at all. And it decreases your gas mileage. Just like those stupid 20 and 22 inch rims that marketing departments are putting on the newest trucks and SUV's.
The Fast Lane Truck Could you try and get a 5.0 V8 for some testing? EVERYONE on TH-cam is testing the EcoBoosts but hardly anyone is testing the 5.0. There are plenty of us out there that still want a good V8 in our truck.
Someone answer me this. Legally what amount of weight can be hooked up to the back of these 2016 F-150's. Not the combined but a trailer loaded alone can weight what?
I still would rather have a v8. I know the 3.5 is more than capable hell even the 2.7 is more than enough for most people but I just have more faith in a good old fashioned American v8 to keep going and never stop
I think you guys should do a 0-60 with and without a trailer the 25-60 or something similar then 60-0 and 25-0 imo thats more important the driving up a hill. Without trailer brakes
The 2.7 is just better. Ford didn't expect it it to be so much better if at all, but 2.7 team was on the ball and Fords 3.5 engine teams got it's ass kicked
61k for a F150? No way, plus i would rather have a less stressed engine like the 5.0. It's bad enough when the truck is in the shop under warranty, but way worse when the truck is out of warranty and you are replacing turbos. The other issue is I would rather have a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup for towing. If you are going to spend 61k on a truck, get a HD truck.
Levi Baptiste Wow! for that much, would expect absolutely no problems in terms of reliability. Cant even imagine how much the new model super duty's are going cost...
I just bought a 2.7l ecoboost, you guys helped me the whole way. Love the truck, it does not feel like a small v6 is under the hood and it got 21mpg coming from phx to la with 5 people in it. For anyone that's still curious, test drive one, it'll surprise you. Thanks again and love your channel
Adrian Amezcua Just got me one used with 50k still like new. Love this truck!!!!!!
Tim Parker I have a 2018 and use it to tow and 5500lb travel trailer. It goes up steep hills like a champ. I can easily hit 80 mph going up the grapevine in CA. Around town with no trailer I get 22 mpg. Towing on flat ground I avg 12-14 mpg.
Guys coming up in my 45k oil change on my 2.7 EB, nearly 3 years ownership and thank the Lord not a single problem, love the truck and the engine, ain’t nothing like a full size truck, never once missed my old Tacomas.
Just purchased 2015 2.7 with 70000 mi absolutely love the truck what a difference compared to old steel panel f150 with triton v8
@@LuisMartinez-ft9or I have the same truck. I got a custom tow tune for it and it now pulls like a diesel. Great engine.
Love my 2.7....drove the 5.0, 3.5 eco and chose the 2.7 eco. The throttle response is what sold me.
Did they have the same gearing?
I would've never even considered the 2.7 EB until I watched this. After seeing this, I test drove the f150 with the 2.7, loved it and bought it. Now, I'm towing every day with this truck, and couldn't be happier.
I test drove the 2.7 today. Wow! I was blown away. Very impressed with that motor. It gets up and moves.
I just bought a used 2015 F-150 lariat with the 3.5L Ecoboost. Upgrading from the 2.3L Ecoboost in my 2017 Explorer; holy crap this thing wants to fly. Highway mileage in my first 275 miles has been 19mpg and climbing (has some long idles and city darting). It has 67000 miles currently and we’re going to use it for pulling around a couple of horses in the future. Definitely glad I got it, and we’re enjoying a much smoother and nicer ride. I would have been just as happy if it had the 2.7L, but the 3.5L is just awesome.
Splitting the screen up like you did really adds a lot to this type of video, it's all about conveying info to the viewer. Good job and well done!
I just got my 2017 f150 xl 2.7 ecoboost today after watching many tow videos of this engine. I have had 3 silverados(well one 2500 sierra) and the torque and hp numbers of these ford motors were impressing me, and the videos impressed me in that they were not being doggy when pulling. I travel doing welding and pull an 18 foot camper. Was doing it with my Silverado 4.3 stick shift, and it pulled it fine, i would just get 16 mpg when not pulling. After driving the 2.7 i was impressed to the point I ended up purchasing it. Also got $4050 in rebates from ford so got a very good deal. Thank you guys for your work. You made me feel a lot better about my purchase decision as well as help me make it with your tow videos. (I even drove an ecodiesel which was VERY nice, i just didnt want to pay the price they wanted)
I get around 19.2 mpg city driving on my 2.7L sport 4x4, love it!
Roman, you and Mr Truck did a great job on that video
Thanks for the kind words
Both Engines are so good nice video keep the good work
I think the 2.7 is underrated on power it’s very fast
I have a 3.5 Twin turbo, Never drove the 2.7. I love the 3.5, im happy with it.
If the 3.5 had a 3.55 or 3.73 rear end it would of felt way different that being said I am really impressed with the 2.7, that thing is quick. I also love the 5 liter coyote but these guys that are saying bad about the EB engines and praising the 5.0 would be really shocked if they seen that V8 attempting to keep up with the EB V6s.
I have a 2013 F150 3.5 ecoboost with the max tow pckg. (3.73) rear end. I pulled my 7000 lb. travel trailer 1350 miles. Never an issue with power, but I only got 6.9 mpg for the trip running between 65-70 mph.
This is the exact mileage we got on a trip from pa to sd with 7000lb box trailer funny how it is;)
3.55 xlt extended cab
I have a 2018 F150 3.5 EcoBoost with the 3.55 gears. Towing my 31' camper in the Colorado mountains I average 10 mpg. That is averaging around 65 mph.
You should take the f150 off-road to where the jeep and raptor went that would be badass since it has the FX4 package!
Hmm... Nice idea...
I ordered and am awaiting delivery of a 2016 F-150 Platinum SuperCrew 3.5L 4x4 loaded. I know it's a fortune to pay for a truck but as someone who was considering a high end SUV but ultimately wanted the advantages/flexibility of a truck, this model for me had all the luxury of what i would've wanted in the SUV. I know everyone who has commented already will say I'm stupid but I'm sure there are some of you who buy Snap-On versus Craftsman even knowing both will do the same job and have the same warranty.
I cannot wrap my brain around the amount of work and size vehicle being moved by the same displacement as the Stratus v6, 80s Camry v6, and old chevy base model Camaro/blazer engine. Blows my mind!
It'd be interesting to see a comparison of both Ecoboost V6s and the 5.0, all with the same trim package, drive train and rear end, and all either ext. cab or 4 door. That way the only difference between the 3 would be the engine
All the people complaining about the price of the truck need to study an options list. For all the big 3. You can get into one of these trucks for the low 40s. It won't be a heavily optioned. The 502a option to get the lane assist/adaptive cruise is huge package of equipment. Which is why the option is 8k. But it turns the truck in a luxury car. It's an amazing amount of tech that works extremely well.
You make it sound like the 3.5L is going to cost $15000 more than the 2.7L, you're comparing two different trucks. The 3.5L will only run an extra $1200 over the 2.7L.
Yes this! The options are the difference in price not the engines.
+zar qume Not sure what you're saying here, but nope.
+Steve O'Donnell Its simple. If you tow often and heavy equipment, the 3.5l is the way to go. If your not going to tow often and stay below 7k lbs the 2.7l is the way to go. the fuel savings is nice.
Good review! Probably going to opt with the 2.7l.
The 2.7 ecoboost is by far my favorite Ford engine right now. And thats while me owning a 2021 5.0l Mustang GT.
2.7 is made from compacted graphite iron (not aluminum)
They were talking about the body, but ok guy
Forget the F150, swap a 2.7 Ecoboost into that gorgeous bronco
Ecoboosts are junk
Dukiny Gaming
Sweet opinion, kid.
+DoomsdayMelody91 well it's true
Dukiny Gaming
Nah, they're great. Power when you need it fuel economy when you don't.
+DoomsdayMelody91 but they get awful mpg
I see a lot of people commenting about the price of the truck and scoffing at it. I have NEVER paid sticker price on any vehicle I have ever bought. Seriously, the only thing that is nuts is people believing that you HAVE to pay sticker price. I just bought a 2015 XLT with the sport appearance, tow and 301a packages. Its loaded with all sorts of goodies and the 2.7l Eco with 3.73 gears. Sticker price was $51,000. I paid $42,000. I am in Canada as well, and vehicles are a bit more expensive here...
great job guys, best car / truck reviews on YT!
Thanks!
When will we see the Towing MPG test on the 2.7 Ecoboost truck??
I just bought a 2015 with the 2.7. i like it a lot it has so much more down low than i was expecting. Did the air oil separator and an intake already lol
I've read too many articles stating how the 2.7 is a faster truck compared to the 3.5 and same was said in this video but at least you brought up the difference with the axle ratios. It's almost like Ford paid people to advertise the 2.7 as a better, faster option even though real side by side 0-60 times prove otherwise. I'm in a rental with a 2.7 and it does 0-60 in 6.45 seconds, pretty fast! But my 2015 with the 3.5 does it in under 6 seconds with a 3.55 rear axle. All the articles out there are simply misleading!
The 3.5 almost tried to overheat that surprises me but the 2.7 stay perfect temp. Also there was a point there where the 3.5 was on and off boost at full throttle might be something wrong with it
Yea its a Ford...
Doesn’t surprise me..... the 2.7 will break soon.....
the best deal on these new f150s is to go for the xl with the sport appearance package. You can get the 2.7 ecoboost with 3.73 gears and all the goods for far cheaper than the "upscale models"
I'd like to thank you for the great job you do. Videos like this helped me be confident in the decision to purchase an F150 with the 2.7L Ecoboost. Plus, I just enjoy and respect your hard work bringing us great videos.
Is it just me or was the 2.7 consistently sitting at lower RPM?
It's surprising to see how the 3.5 changed gear more than the 2.7 to keep pace !
2.7 needs to go in the new Ranger 😉
I agree with the older gentleman.. super duty for sure.
Some still may think or assume that the 2.7 is just too small.
Just drive one. Has the get up and go of a big block but gets 25mpg on highway (quite easily) w 10 speed and 21mpg round town. Better that the ratings.
i got the 3.5 and i love it would not change my mine.
Where’s your mine?
I personally got the 2.7, I dont tow anything and it was cheaper than the 3.5. The 2.7 works fine for what I need it for. It has plenty of power and is still relatively good on gas.
Hello I just wanted to point out a couple of errors, the F150 with a 3.5 Eco boost and 331 rear end is not rated to pull 10,700 lbs. In order to pull 10,700 lbs you need to order the trailer Max package which comes with 355 gears you can also option a 373 rear end for greater pulling acceleration. I know this as I just built a new 2016 f150 and read the fine print about max towing 😄! Maybe it was different in 2015 but I doubt it, manufactures always tout there product with Max towing figures then have a disclaimer (when properly optioned) lol
this is the issue with these reviews, YES, its hard to compare exact trucks, but this episode is a great example, YOU can get these engines in different configurations, and practically the same at that, and if you did a flat comparison you would notice that you only pay an extra grand for the 2.7, rear end ratios matter, and you can get the same in both, and that the 2.7 is geared more like the 3.5 was originally, towards light towing and city driving and the new 3.5 is geared to match, if not exceed the v8's in terms of towing and performance. honestly it comes down to application, if you do heavy towing, lots of altitude change or want a big truck, get the 3.5, if you want something for the city that can do weekend hauling or light holidaying, get the 2.7, and if your deadset on the sound and performance of an na v8 get the 5.0, its pretty simple.
I got a 2008 Chrysler 300 with a stock 2.7 v/6 and it takes off and go when you need to good engine
Roman..Mr.Truck..the difference between the 2.7 vs 3.5 Eco-Boost is approx. 1500.00....engine to engine.....
Love the videos! Only problem I had was y'all based yalls choice on price in the when really the price difference of getting the 2.7 over the 3.5 isn't nearly that much. Y'all had different trim lvls
I think you guys need to consider that shield you guys put on the trailer is causing more drag than you think. I would like to see if you can or at least make a run off camera to save time and see how the 2.7 does with the shield. About a year ago you guys had a 3.5 ecoboost with the horse trailer at 10k and it had a ton of power that you had to back off a few times. I love your videos keep up the great work. Congrats on the new watch!
I know this was already probably said but the 2.7L uses a Composite Graphite Iron(CGI) block with Aluminum heads.
You got the fx4 and that’s why got the 3.31 rear gears for some reason that’s what you get with the fx4 package
I've got a 2017 3.5 fx4 with 3.55
ill stick with my 2015 base model v6. extended cab sport package. i bought it used with only 2400 miles on it n got it for $24,500. pretty badass truck for the small engine
Spending $61K for a pickup truck is nuts.
I agree, Inflation sucks.
Ozzstar get a lower priced model like XL or XLT with FX4 off-road package for best value
Ozzstar I agree. Anyone who pays MSRP on a truck is nuts.
Ozzstar Not if you are buying a heavy duty truck that holds it value. Yes, on this one you are crazy. Be worth about 30k in two years.
Only business people buy MSRP for tax write offs. 61k? thats just insane, imagine the new model SuperDuty's.
I love these videos, but a nice print out screen showing the various weights used, weight capacities, power/torque, rated MPG, guantlet MPG, etc at the end would be very nice. AND, put in some performance comparison numbers in a second table showing how it stacks up to the competition you have tested.
When comparing similar packages, e.g. Lariat, the costs are similar.
Although that 2.7 is impressive I agree with Robert Greenlee. you are comparing 2 different trucks ,Gear ratio and also the 2.7 was a super cab against a super crew which might add to the 3.5 feeling more sluggish.
I had to chuckle when mr truck claiming the differences of 1500 lbs between cab configurations. It’s more like 250 lb difference at most
Thanks for the review. I'm sold to 2.7 now. this up
Thumbs up that is
Nice guys your videos improved through the years.
Great video guys!! Now you need to test the 5.0 v8 up the ike and a real world fuel economy test would be interesting to see.
Don't buy an ecoboost if you plan on doing any exhaust. I own the 3.5L and it doesn't sound terrible? But definitely not what I'd like. Go for the 5.0 if you want to do exhaust work. The 3.5L is a powerhouse though, I love it for that fact!
A lot of people (including myself) would love to see this test with the 5.0L V8. It has the highest horsepower of the three and a respectable torque rating.
Can you guys go back and do a "retro" ike gauntlet of a ford ranger with the 4.0 SOHC?
For towing nothing beats a Diesel. Gives you more tourqe, better milage and less maintenance. How many big rigs run on gasoline?
+travelguy78 Diesel also gives you less HP so it takes more energy to get to speed, more expensive maintenance and more frequent oil change intervals (you better not miss an oil change!), def fluid refills and they have just as many problems as gas engines nowadays. All the emissions crap really kills the reliability and longevity of these trucks. What could be said about diesels 20 years ago can't be said about them today.
+Daniel Bell 20.000km / 12.000 miles service intervalls is what my cars had and some push it to 40.000km (Peugot 407 HDI), so please explain what you mean with more frequent oil changes. I do not understand what you mean that a diesel gives you less HP and that it takes more energy to get to speed. The laws of physics regarding how much energy it takes to get to a certain speed have not been changed (as far as i know). A diesel engine block is normally a bit heavier, so we can add 3% to the weight of the car, but considering that 1gallon of diesel contains quite a lot more energy its reasonable that it will get more gas milage. Does not have any experience with Diesels after 2010, so something might have happened, but according to Audi they still have a 20km service interval for their cars.
I also have a 3.5, i think they should tow on a different pass, steeper maybe?
That was awesome, and thoughtful, I bet you helped for many people to make a decision
We hope we can help make the purchase decision.
load up the 3.5 with the highest weight the 6.2 1500 can handle (and run them both)
+Marc Monson They already loaded them THE SAME WEIGHT and the 6.2 was SLOWER.
You think adding another 500 or 1000 lbs will change that?
The nice thing about these real world tests is that you get to see the benefits of the turbo engine when climbing high altitude.
The Chevy lost a good 30% or so of it's power.
The Ford was likely close to the max power since the turbos can just spool a little faster in the less dense air and the computer will still regulate it at approx the same PSI of boost.
I'm on fords side here..both trucks can handle 12k but these were only loaded up to about 8k IIRC
Marc Monson
I did tow a 7700 Lb 20 foot toy hauler with my 4.7 Liter Dodge Dakota 4 door 4X4 about 10 years ago. That was over it's rating for sure.
But I did install 4.56 gears, Firestone Air Bags and a few other cool things so it was not stock by any means.
It did ok but on the last grade getting up to Flagstaff it dropped to 45 mph and needed 2nd gear.
you need to tow up a mountian with the 5.0 v8
Daniel Lockwood I agree. I know the EcoBoosts are impressive motors but no one is testing the 5.0. If I buy a new F150 it will be the 5.0 over the 3.5/2.7 just for the exhaust not alone.
+C-grunt The non turbo 5.0 will loose 20% of it's power at elevation.
Plus the turbo engine makes it's FULL TORQUE from 2,000- to near redline.
The 3.5 TT will probably outpull the 5.0 pretty easy. It already out pulled the bigger Chevy and Nissan V8's.
Especially on this high altitude mountain grade.
+Daniel Lockwood not in high country where they tested at (Colorado). we're talking base elevation of 5k in the plains to 11k at the tunnel. Density altitude ranges from 7k to 14k depending on the weather. That's a 25-35% drop in power. Hence why they created those things called "atmospheric compensators" to reduce the effect of elevation. AKA turbochargers.
+Daniel Lockwood I can tell you from first hand experience that the 3.5 EcoBoost blows the 5.0 out of the water. I like the V8 exhaust note too but I could live without it if I had to.
its still nice to see how all the engines compare though.
I'd get the 3.5L. If you're going to get an over engineered, complicated, expensive and high strung engine, you might as well get the one with more power.
You say engine doesn't figure it tow/haul ratings but aren't the chassis breaks and suspension the same in the 2015 F 150 trucks you tested and the only difference was the engine? Pls explain thx
A great thanks to Roman Mica and Mr. Truck (Kent) for providing all these great reviews. I love watching this channel, and especially like the comparison tests, like this one, or the Navigator VS Escalade review. As such, is there any way that you can do a comparison test, or a least a review, on the towing characteristics of a full sized van? The Chevy Express and/ or Nissan NV come to mind, as they are both truck platform based vans, have a good selection of engines, and can come either as a passenger or cargo van. I think they can tow up to 10,000 and 9500 lbs when properly equipped. Either of these, or any other truck based van would make a great Ike Gauntlet contender.
P.S, I'm also curious to see the mileage difference between the pickup and van versions of the same platform when towing, seeing as how a pickup is probably lighter but a van is probably more aerodynamic thanks to it's flat roof.
Really is correct 3.3 and 4.3 MPG to 3.5 and 2.7 engines?
10:47 appear that info
I got the 3.5 in STX trim and love it. Too bad ford didn't send more comparable trucks. If I'm spending 61 grand I want a super duty not massaging seats in an F150. Wasn't really a fair comparison in that sense.
2.7 with 3.55 rear end and supercab vs 3.5 l with 3.31 rear end and crew cab? It would have been nice to see what the 3.5 with 3.55 rear end would have been like.
Roman's price comparison made no sense as the two trucks were so differently equipped; it was more of a price comparison of a King Ranch crew cab to a simpler model extended cab than a price comparison of a 3.5 to a 2.7. And the big gas tank, not the small one, is the option.
Do you guys think the 3.5L had less power since the coolant temp was up to 248 degrees at the entrance of the tunnel.?
Hello from the future-are you excited for the 3.0 ecoboost!?
So, what is the tow capacity of the 2.7l 4x4?
Or what weights have you guys towed?
How long will them Ecoboost last. I want one but I am only buying one new truck I plan on driving it till the wheels fall off. Or should I buy a Chevy Silverado 1500 or Toyota tundra.
Great review. Thanks you guys. I just that 3.5 Ford is overpriced for the actually value. Come back to me in a few years and I am curious what the resale is.
I love how people think the King Ranch is the TOP TOP TOP of the line... Its like, seriously? Did you not know about the Platinum or Limited? 3.5 or 2.7 you cant go wrong.
2.7 vs 3.5 ? how much weight are you going to tow?
for my money I need an apples to apples engine review.
the axle ratio difference cant answer the opening question
It was not the same truck. One was a lariat double cab one was a king ranch crew cab. These both are factors in price. As for performance, it is all about axle ratio
So a bargain basement, base model, short bed, 2wd, 2.7l ecoboost with a 3.55 axle ratio and no payload should haul ass then right? Gonna go look at one tomorrow. :D
Photo314159 did you buy it? If so how is it?
Does that truck have dexcool in it?
Or you can save a lot of money to buy the XLT versions of both trucks. Why not mention that in the video?
The 2.7 has great throttle response but the gas mileage is horrible when just towing a 4 wheeler and some tools. The v8 would be a better option for towing.
mabey you should ask the tech's at a ford dealer how the new ecoboosts are doing/ the local one for me stated they are fixing oil leaks like crazy on trucks with less then 1500 km's, least a gm and fiats waits till 30k before it starts leaking.
but the engines do work dam good but in the end of the day everyone just needs to try all 3 trucks and see which they like
It's funny to rewatch these as I'm looking for a replacement for my current F-150. They're talking about how the 3.5 is $61,000. Now that truck is even more sadly. These Ecoboost's are impervious.
The review was good, but there was one problem: the axle ratio on the 3.5 was smaller than the 2.7. It would be fair if they both got a 3.55.
It's very difficult to get identical rear-end ratios. We can try, but often we don't have a choice.
I understand. You guys deserve better. I hope ya'll will be able to test a 5.0 V8 with your choice and get a new 2017 Raptor. Good Luck!
Roman, can we see a MAXED out run? I love listening to these engines sing for 10 minutes at wide open throttle. I'd rather they go 50mph and roar than cruise at 70.
Good comparison however I'm old fashioned and like v8s. Any chance you could get the five liter and pull the same trailer. I would love to see how it compares
won't be good. everyday driving sure, but those mountains really make those turbo's look good, can't beat forced induction when you start running out of air. nothing against TFL, but if you want to see a towing test between the two, and you don't live in high elevation, I'd suggest a different reviewer. again, not knocking TFL, they live in Colorado, so they test there. if you don't, then understand all TFL videos are going to heavily favor forced induction.
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Ford rules the world!
Optioned similarly, there is NOT a $14,000 difference between the two trucks! You could get a lower optioned 3.5L ecoboost for significantly less.
I really think that you guys need to tell your viewers that the Ford EcoBoost engines are NOT Flex Fuel Capable. That might be important to some people. Personally, I am against the whole thing of forcing people to use ethanol. We were all told that it would be cheaper and I have not seen that at all. And it decreases your gas mileage. Just like those stupid 20 and 22 inch rims that marketing departments are putting on the newest trucks and SUV's.
Ethanol fucks up the turbos
The Fast Lane Truck Could you try and get a 5.0 V8 for some testing? EVERYONE on TH-cam is testing the EcoBoosts but hardly anyone is testing the 5.0. There are plenty of us out there that still want a good V8 in our truck.
Need to do the 5.0 and see what it does
Great Review... Still indecisive though but this helped narrow my decision down a bit more. Thanks guys
Have ya'll guys heard about the 2016 F-150 coming with Trailer Backup Assist?
Someone answer me this. Legally what amount of weight can be hooked up to the back of these 2016 F-150's. Not the combined but a trailer loaded alone can weight what?
I still would rather have a v8. I know the 3.5 is more than capable hell even the 2.7 is more than enough for most people but I just have more faith in a good old fashioned American v8 to keep going and never stop
I think you guys should do a 0-60 with and without a trailer the 25-60 or something similar then 60-0 and 25-0 imo thats more important the driving up a hill.
Without trailer brakes
The 2.7 is just better. Ford didn't expect it it to be so much better if at all, but 2.7 team was on the ball and Fords 3.5 engine teams got it's ass kicked
61k for a F150? No way, plus i would rather have a less stressed engine like the 5.0. It's bad enough when the truck is in the shop under warranty, but way worse when the truck is out of warranty and you are replacing turbos. The other issue is I would rather have a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup for towing. If you are going to spend 61k on a truck, get a HD truck.
You honestly have a point, 61k that's just insane. Rather have the 3/4 ton.
Mine was 57K
Levi Baptiste Wow! for that much, would expect absolutely no problems in terms of reliability. Cant even imagine how much the new model super duty's are going cost...
You can get a top of the line F450 for 76k that will haul just about anything.
raykrv6a I dont need a F450 to just haul arcs and dead deer lol
Should put 4 cameras on each car you review, and just do the 4 split screen of all those cameras. This is cool