I had the same issue today. Gave up and put everything original back lol gonna try again tomorrow. I didn’t know we could take the arms off as i thought they are crucial for protection.
Have you gone off roading with this skid plate? When I installed mine with kdss, I wasn’t comfortable with how close the plate was to the hydraulic piston of the kdss when the suspension was articulated. Wound up just sticking with the stock skid plate.
Yes we have. Everything is fine. We did end up adding spacers so it would line up with our skids. That helped flushed the plate to the skids and gave clearance for the kdss
Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS) is an advanced automotive suspension technology primarily used in off-road and sport utility vehicles (SUVs). KDSS is designed to improve both on-road comfort and off-road performance by automatically adjusting the suspension settings. To determine if your vehicle is equipped with the Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS), you can follow these steps: Check Your Vehicle's Manual: The owner's manual or user's guide that came with your vehicle should provide information about the features and specifications of your specific model. Look for any mention of KDSS in the manual. Contact the Manufacturer: If you don't have access to the owner's manual or if it doesn't provide clear information about your vehicle's features, you can contact the manufacturer's customer support or visit their official website. They may have a feature lookup tool where you can enter your vehicle's VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) to get details about its equipment, including whether it has KDSS. Inspect the Suspension: Physically inspect your vehicle's suspension components. KDSS is often associated with specific hydraulic stabilizer bars. These bars are usually thicker and more noticeable than traditional stabilizer bars. They may also have hydraulic lines connected to them.
You may need the following bolt and spacer kit for better fitment. I used a bolt and spacer laying around. Skid plate bolts with spacers amzn.to/3tQAS6X Or Hex Bolt only (x1) amzn.to/41Y7o3o
@@OtzleeExplains sir, that's upto you. Amber or white it'll definitely look better with a light bar, however it's wise to focus more on the functionality than a mere looks when it comes to the colour of the lights. In my humble opinion. Mine is clear since my spotties and A-pillars are amber (Baja design)
What additional size bolts and spacers did you end up using that you mentioned further below in the comments. Did it touch at full droop or close? Thanks!
You may need the following bolt and spacer kit for better fitment. I used a bolt and spacer I had laying around. Skid plate bolts with spacers amzn.to/3tQAS6X Or Hex Bolt only (x1) amzn.to/41Y7o3o
Do have any kind of KDSS drop spacers? I have the treaty oaks on but when I installed the cartrimhome skid plate, it’s was very close to touching the KDSS piston
Did you previously remove the 2 brackets prior to installing the CTH skid plate? Not sure if that's something I'm going to need to do on my 23 TRD ORP. Thanks
I tried for an hour to make it fit with the brackets and it just would not fit. So yes I had to remove the brackets on a 2023 ORP. I kept them though incase I ever want to go back.
No oem does not bc it has a cover on it but the cover does not fit with trd skid plate so it’s open. Just found that out with my install .. not a fan of open radiator like that
@OtzleeExplains just tried installing the skid plate, and the non kdss option does not work. Bolts are not long enough. You guys should do a install for non kdss 4runners
It’s an aluminum skid, you sacrifice weight for the amount of protection you need. Most people don’t wheel hard and this is enough protection plus it has a easy drain hole for oil changes. Get a steel skid from rci if you need more protection.
I just got the non-Kdss in black with red TRD. Love it looks badass!!
Hell yeah!
That's what I just bought! Cartrimhome needs to make a set of TRD in gray to switch out the red TRD.
May want to add you need to take front front bracket supports off for old kdss skid plate. We didnt and took a minute before we figured that out.
Looks like he did remove it, but didn’t note it.
What years need to have the braces removed? Seems like some people leave them on some kdss models
I had the same issue today. Gave up and put everything original back lol gonna try again tomorrow. I didn’t know we could take the arms off as i thought they are crucial for protection.
Are you talking about the s shaped brackets? Well that void the warranty or affect the structure?
@@jellybirdsadventures yes that is my exact question. Will removing it void warranty or affecting the overall structures
Just ordered one in Black and used your promo code. Thanks!
Awesome! You’ll like the upgrade!
better then OEM but the front bolts need to have a internal star fastener installed before you try and install the skid plate.
Love the vids. Keep it up!
Have you done an oil change yet? If so, how was it using that oil filter access? Thinking it might be worth it just for that reason alone.
It’s one of the main reasons why I love this. It’s so convenient
skid plate at :44 is missing a front bolt.
Have you gone off roading with this skid plate? When I installed mine with kdss, I wasn’t comfortable with how close the plate was to the hydraulic piston of the kdss when the suspension was articulated. Wound up just sticking with the stock skid plate.
Yes we have. Everything is fine. We did end up adding spacers so it would line up with our skids. That helped flushed the plate to the skids and gave clearance for the kdss
What are the dimensions of the spacers please @@OtzleeExplains
What are the blue bushings you're using on the sway bar? Never seen those.
It’s from dr kdss. It fixes the articulation of the sway bar so you don’t get premature wearing from the joints (from a 2” lift)
KDSS nice for what its meant to do. Harder to modify the 4 Runner or add bolt on's. Haha😅
Yeah it is. Has some limitations but it’s a good feature
It's an overrated feature It only works on turns. Terrible for crawling. Perfect for going to the market though
Greetings all. Have 21 kdss. What lift, wheels and tires on the yellow beast?
I’m finishing up a walk around video for 9/26. Stay tuned for that video. I’ll go through all it’s mods
What is KDSS and how do we know if we need with or without it when we order a skid plate?
Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS) is an advanced automotive suspension technology primarily used in off-road and sport utility vehicles (SUVs). KDSS is designed to improve both on-road comfort and off-road performance by automatically adjusting the suspension settings. To determine if your vehicle is equipped with the Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS), you can follow these steps:
Check Your Vehicle's Manual: The owner's manual or user's guide that came with your vehicle should provide information about the features and specifications of your specific model. Look for any mention of KDSS in the manual.
Contact the Manufacturer: If you don't have access to the owner's manual or if it doesn't provide clear information about your vehicle's features, you can contact the manufacturer's customer support or visit their official website. They may have a feature lookup tool where you can enter your vehicle's VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) to get details about its equipment, including whether it has KDSS.
Inspect the Suspension: Physically inspect your vehicle's suspension components. KDSS is often associated with specific hydraulic stabilizer bars. These bars are usually thicker and more noticeable than traditional stabilizer bars. They may also have hydraulic lines connected to them.
This is way better then Oem Pro Skid Plate...it has the opening for the filter
Can’t believe it’s not standard. Imagine having to remove that skid every time
Very cool - how do you like the fit and finish of the Ironman front bumper?
We like it. Good fit, easy install, and a nice solid winchable front end
Hi, can you send a link for the extended bolts needed with a 2.5-3" lift?
You may need the following bolt and spacer kit for better fitment. I used a bolt and spacer laying around.
Skid plate bolts with spacers
amzn.to/3tQAS6X
Or
Hex Bolt only (x1)
amzn.to/41Y7o3o
It'll even look better with a light bar.
Yeah i think we’re gonna look in that direction. Do you think white or amber will look better?
@@OtzleeExplains sir, that's upto you. Amber or white it'll definitely look better with a light bar, however it's wise to focus more on the functionality than a mere looks when it comes to the colour of the lights. In my humble opinion. Mine is clear since my spotties and A-pillars are amber (Baja design)
What additional size bolts and spacers did you end up using that you mentioned further below in the comments. Did it touch at full droop or close? Thanks!
You may need the following bolt and spacer kit for better fitment. I used a bolt and spacer I had laying around.
Skid plate bolts with spacers
amzn.to/3tQAS6X
Or
Hex Bolt only (x1)
amzn.to/41Y7o3o
Do have any kind of KDSS drop spacers? I have the treaty oaks on but when I installed the cartrimhome skid plate, it’s was very close to touching the KDSS piston
We ended up getting longer bolts and adding a few spacers. Much better fit now
What is thd bolt length you used and size to allow piston clearance ? How much spacer length did you need to allow for the new bolt.
Interested in this information too
@@OtzleeExplains when you added longer spacers and bolts, did you put the radiator brackets back in?
I also have the Treaty Oak kit and this is damn near touching the sway lock clamps. Can you advise what extended bolts and spacers?
Did you previously remove the 2 brackets prior to installing the CTH skid plate? Not sure if that's something I'm going to need to do on my 23 TRD ORP. Thanks
No we didn’t have to remove the 2 brackets.
After speaking with Cartrim home and some forums I decided to remove them. It fit much better then.
Figured it was recommended. Wondering what that was intention of those brackets though
@@jellybirdsadventures
I tried for an hour to make it fit with the brackets and it just would not fit. So yes I had to remove the brackets on a 2023 ORP. I kept them though incase I ever want to go back.
What do the brackets support
Hi. Did you have to take off the two brackets to make it fit?
No we didn’t have to take off any brackets to make fit. We did have to get extended bolts and a spacer. I have a link in the video description
Spacer dimensions please @@OtzleeExplains
What if you have a diff drob kit with spacers do you just double them up at that point
Yeah you can. You can get a longer screw and just add spacers
What size hex bit do you need for the oil filter trap door?
5/32 will do
Does the OEM leave the open gap on the top between the radiator?
No oem does not bc it has a cover on it but the cover does not fit with trd skid plate so it’s open. Just found that out with my install .. not a fan of open radiator like that
Does it take long to receive??
Just a few days typically. A lot of times it’s stocked at their California warehouse. Make sure to use my promo to get the 7% off PL7P
Any accessory to close the gap in between the skid plate and the front valence?
I heard of a brand that makes it but I forgot which one
It's RSG Metalworks in Colorado. I think it's about $115 for the infill panel made from steel
Does the OEM stay open like this cartrim one?
Is the color of the skid plate silver?
Yeah silver with black emblems
@@OtzleeExplains Damn, looks white. Thank you.
How long did shipping take?
5 days. I’m in California
What front bumper is that on the yellow
It’s a Ironman4x4 raid series
@@OtzleeExplains thanks man
Looks killer
It sure does!
Where can I buy this
There’s a link in description
Does work on a 3" lift non kdss 4runner?
Yup. Check my link, there’s one with and without kdss
@OtzleeExplains just tried installing the skid plate, and the non kdss option does not work. Bolts are not long enough. You guys should do a install for non kdss 4runners
@@OM-bb4yp you ordered the non kdss option? do you have aftermarket skids? You might have to go to the hardware store to pickup some longer bolts.
Cool video BUT, this aluminum skid plate, at 15 pounds, just looks cheap to me.
It’s an aluminum skid, you sacrifice weight for the amount of protection you need. Most people don’t wheel hard and this is enough protection plus it has a easy drain hole for oil changes. Get a steel skid from rci if you need more protection.
Leaving the anchor shackles in the recovery points for looks is cringe
Would it work on 2019 Limited?
The limited doesn’t come with kdss so you wouldn’t need to worry about this fix.
How long did it take for it to get shipped?
Less than a week. Was pretty quick
@@OtzleeExplains website says its not for 4runner with shock absorber does that mean lifr kit? I just installed 5100 this week 😢