Hobby Cheating 209 - How to Deal with Failure
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- In this very special Hobby Cheating episode, I take you through failure, how we deal with it, what are our options and how we move on when a project doesn't turn out how we wanted it to. Hope you enjoy!
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I think it most important hobby-cheating advice ever. Thank you.
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
This is one of my favourite episodes. Thank you for the motivation and knowledge
What perfect timing. I was on TH-cam anyway looking for videos to deal with lack of confidence related to mini painting. This just happened to come up in my subscriptions. I really appreciate this.
Thank you, happy to assist and glad it showed up at the right time.
Your best advice so far, i can tell from the tone of your voice how important this is. Thanks vince
It's very critical and something that I feel very passionate about. :)
Always happy to see your mentality videos! Since I stull need to learn the basics of painting, it's tough to tey an match your glazing techniques. These types of videos help me keep things in perspective. Thank you so much for everything you share and teach!
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Thank you so much for this video. I am trying to get my friends to get over the fear of failure and plan to share this with them.
Please do share, the most important thing that they can understand, is, especially if they are just starting out, anything with paint on where they are learning is better than grey. ANYTHING. Because every failure when you begin is so rich with potential learnings.
I really appreciated this. It's refreshing to think you guys who are professionals and content creators have failures and put your pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. I always appreciate seeing elements of work that people aren't happy with. It's relatable and better yet, I particularly like to here the why behind that.
Yep, I think it's easy for our failures to be "hidden" but to me, it was important to share. We are all just humans trying our best.
Vince, I think you're actually dishing out vital life advice under the guise of hobby advice and I love it.
CHeese it - they're onto us! ;)
This is good advice for all aspects of life. Thanks for taking the time to bring it up.
Thank you, it was important to me, happy to share. :)
A lot of hobbiests need to hear this. Thanks for the grounding.
Thank you, this one was important for me. :)
This came at a good time, I have been massively frustrated with my most recent project after messing up and getting texture on the model during priming. Didn't even want to look at them after a while.
Glad this helped and hope you can find another project that lights the hobby fire.
I don't know how I missed this video, but it is super helpful, especially right now where I'm in a weird plateau spot painting wise in the hobby. Great advice 😎
Glad it was helpful!
This hits close to home at the moment for me because I spent lots of time and planning over an army and it didn’t turn out the way I wanted it to and so I decided to start them over with a different scheme and a different approach to the technical side of how I’ll paint the same models.
It's good that you pushed through and grew from the failure, I love that and hope the new scheme is working for you. :)
Great video, Vince.
It's so easy to get discouraged when art is so personal to you. You want to do your best, but sometimes it just doesn't work out. While I usually try to push on, there are times where I just stop.
But hey, you gotta keep going, right? ;)
That's right, we can stop any one piece, but we have to push on overall. :)
Life is a funny thing. This video showed up on my page right when i needed it.. I just put a lot of work on a imperial fist captain, to then realise the yellow was crap, and got a little depressed about it. Well, this video helped me to get motivation again, and when i look at it now i dont feel so terrible anymore. I guess i'll have to keep on painting it and make those "lost" hours a good lesson on what not to do! So a huge thank you Vince for this unusual video of yours, it got me a litlle further in my painting journey.
Fantastic, always happy to help. :)
Dropping that knowledge. I love it. Strong wise words. I feel like this video applies to more then just mini painting.
I think its something I try to personally keep in mind in most things in life for sure. :)
Thanks for posting this Vince! This was actually really helpful :)
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Thanks. Good to hear this side of things as well, so if the mood hits you again, go for it.
Oh, I am sure there will be more failures to come for sure. :)
Vince, I've been suspecting for a while that you've been living, not in your own home, but comfortably shacked up inside my head. You are 100% describing my current project. On the one hand, I should put it aside, but I think this needs to be one I just finish. I've painted other things, and nothing, I'm SO close to the end it's insulting, but I'm really struggling with it.
Nah, I am at home, i just have lots of cameras. ;)
@@VinceVenturella huh, better start wearing pants when I paint then.
You have such a good heart. Thanks for everything you do, including this video:)
Thank you Emily, right back at you.
Thank you for this video vince,i recently done the same with the godsworn hunt,forced myself to paint 4 and a half minis then had to just put them down,I've now painted 15 models instead of forcing myself to finish the failed godsworn.
Awesome! That's the right attitude.
Great one Vince.
I had a chat about this once with someone in a hobby store. They were asking why I was happy with something at table top standard next to something else I'd painted. All about expectations, I didn't want these line troops to have that much investment so I wasn't sad they weren't my highest standard. It's a hard and really important lesson, one I still keep learning.
Absolutely, expectations are so important, when you set them, and then achieve to that expectation, happiness follows. :)
This is a topic that we avoid in all aspects of life. We constantly see the end product of all these wonderful people and think that it comes easy. That is the thing we trick ourselves into believing when actually the end product is a result of a struggle not a simple walk in the park. I want to shout out to three awesome content creators. Sam Lenz, Miniac, and Vince, these three show us in their content that failure or mistakes are not the end result. We can correct mistakes or try again. You three have been a huge inspiration to me as I continue to improve. I have come a long way from 2 years ago and I want to say a sincere THANK YOU for your contributions to the community. I hope the other two get a chance to read this comment as well.
P.S. For some reason TH-cam won't let me tag people at the moment. Keep up the awesome videos!!
Thank you, that means a great deal to me and I appreciate being in such company.
Thanks Vince. I'm taking my own learning from hat you've shared here.
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Vince:
*Pulls out model most people would find perfectly acceptable for playing with*
"I'm going to talk about why this is a failure"
Me:
"I LITERALLY screwed up airbrushing a spoon one flat color today because I added too much water to thin it and my regulator kept dropping PSI."
*chunks spoon*
Well, failure is often a function of our expectations. I would fail to run a marathon, but I wouldn't have any expectation of succeeding, I would feel slightly worse if I failed to make it to the end of my driveway. :)
@@VinceVenturella
*Does his best Alan Rickman impression*
"But at least you didn't ruin a spoon"
*Looks at his Vallejo Metal Color Paints*
"This is good steel!"
If your regulator keeps dropping, there might be a leakage. Unscrew the regulator and wrap plumber's tape 3-5 times around the threading.
This mentality and attitude clearly shows in many other videos. You simply saying "I'm going to repeat this glazing for another hour or so" made me realize a lot of a good model is the time you put into it. Sure, skills are involved too, but they tend to come with practice. Thank you for encouraging to keep painting!
Always happy to help. I want to do a video sometime that is the "real secret" to high end painting just called - Keep futzing with it, Llike for hours, just keep messing around.
Thanks for the video...reminds me of that Kipling poem,
'If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same'
Got to say though, kudos on getting so jazzed by a model that you rattle can it right there at the convention!! 🙂
I love the quote, wonderful.
Heya Vince, thanks for putting out this video. Watched it when it first released and am revisiting because I got so frustrated just now about not being able to do up the NMM armour on my competition soulscryer the way I wanted. After rewatching it I now feel less frustrated, enough so to formulate a plan to troubleshoot it. If that doesn't work I plan to return to this video to motivate myself to keep on trying :D.
Awesome, that's all we can do. Failing at something is the first step to being okay at something, which you have to do before you are good at something. I know I still fight with NMM all the time, it's an ever expanding journey. :)
I think F.A. Hayek said it best; learning is experiencing disappointed expectations. Failure is the most important part of success. Great video Vince!
Yoda said: "The greatest of teachers, failure is."
Both clearly wise. ;)
Great video, Vince, and one I imagine I'll come back more than once!
Tangent: given rattle cans tend to obscure detail, would you suggest using an airbrush or brush-on primer?
Airbrush, brush on primer is the absolute worst for obscuring detail.
@@VinceVenturella gotcha, thanks!
I've learned more from failures than from models that went "right" . Also, I'm a bit surprised you didn't include taking paint off and repainting? Especially on an expensive model. Maybe not on a troop one, but for instance, I repainted my Ikkit Claw THREE times before I got to where I was ok with him. Anyway great video as always Vince! love it :)
In general, I am pretty against stripping something, just because you can usually paint over and just keep painting (unless you get a bad primer job, then you have to strip it). That being said, I try to avoid it. That also being said, sometimes you are right you can't avoid it.
@@VinceVenturella Can you paint over metal do you think? I have painted over plastic but metals seem easier to strip. Now I'm wondering if my problematic model was (besides the model) the primer. Ah well live and learn :D
@@M0U53B41T I paint over anything. Stripping is always too excessive, why start 100% over when the work isn't 100% wrong? If I was writing a book and didn't like a chapter, would I through the whole book in the shredder and start retyping the same words up to that chapter?
Basically, unless it's a bad prime job that is going to affect the rest of the model, just keep painting.
@@VinceVenturella interesting thoughts! I certainly haven't thought of it that way although tbh I also have stripped a lot lately either, not like I did in the beginning
The hardest thing I have personally found when it comes to improving at painting is its not always obvious like many other endeavours WHAT it is that you are doing wrong, you know it doesnt look great, but you cant put your finger on the specifics even with lots of personal analysis. Thats why I think its important to get expert critique everytime you try and fail, if you actually want to get better faster.
Totally agree, the reality is, this hobby isn't a hobby we do alone. We all get there together. :)
It would be cool to see a follow up on this with examples of your failure;: why they didn't work and what you learned from them
Well, I shared a few here obviously, but I am sure I could find another video with past examples galore.
Exactly the same thing has happened to me very recently, painting miniature for competition, and started to get genuinely angry toward the end and ran out of time, that was a few months ago, and I haven't really painted anything since, but I'm thinking of starting back soon with a simple project just to get the momentum going again.
Think it would be great if you did a follow up video about getting going again after a long time away.
This was a great subject to talk about, thanks Vince.
My best advice for getting started again is simple, grab something that isn't a competition piece and just paint. Don't make an excuse, don't wait, don't think about what you aren't painting. Just grab something simple for an army or for joy and just paint. Even f you don't finish it,. Just paint. Painting anything will get it going again.
Thanks for the quick reply, just finished preparations for priming, let's see what happens, thanks.
Fantastic topic my friend!
Unfortunately, all Painters have failures, and failure walks hand in hand with success.
A great learning tool I guess, and one I practice, is to keep the failures to remind me of mistakes/wrong path/bad technique.
Social media adds even more anxiety to the topic, again, unfortunately.
Totally agree, Art is very much, a personal thing, akin to love.
Both, take time to evolve/mature.
Reference failure again, they are definitely a big part of every Painters learnings. Indeed, there are many images of unfinished/abandoned paintings by our friends the Old Masters.
Odd you mention two projects on the go, equates to optimum performance, this is very true and certainly keeps the Painters Mind....sharp & focused.
Unfortunately in today’s modern world, far too much is given to final results.
Sadly, the process, hands on skill and hours of painstaking painting and the ensuing torment, is sadly not, focus of attention, publicly.
Best wishes to you,
Happy painting,
Hugh. 👋👍🍻
Thank you, deeply appreciated. :)
Thank you for the video. Very important advice thank will really help me. Will also remember the 5 Ps! Thanks!
Thank you, happy to help as always and glad you enjoyed it. :)
Great video it applies to so many things in life.
I certainly try to apply it to most things in my life. :)
Your timing with this could not have been better. I have been struggling with this in my hobby, and in general in life. To the extent that I have been thinking about doing something just like this (talking about the perception of failure) in an upcoming public speaking event that I have. I cannot say thank you enough. I for one would also like to see where you consider you fail in future miniatures, and what/how you learned and grew from that. Just my two cents. Thanks again.
Thank you, I am glad it was helpful and I am always happy to assist.
I feel this all the time. I try this new way to paint but i just get frustrated and want to stop trying. I want to give up and go back to ways that work.
It's hard to fail, but it's important to realize that failure is the start of the learning, that's when you know you have some room to grow. It's always tough admittedly, but that failing is the first step to learning. :)
thank you for this because i did have a lot of failures but i did win certificate of merit most of the time so i understand this and also my working hours when i was working now after my retirement i have more time to do what i want to .
Always happy to help. Failure is such a big part of my day every day, and I think it's good to accept that as just part of the process.
Failure is definitely how we learn. Would you please think about doing a video on priming models? I have undercoated and not and I cant tell how much it effects my work at the level of painting im at. I really enjoy learning from you.
So I have done a few videos on zenithal priming with an airbrush, is that what you are describing?
@@VinceVenturella no. I mean like what you spray for undercoat. Like do you use rattle cans, that sort of thing. Thanks for your time.
Brilliant advice, thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Vince Venturella so helpful, I’ve been binge watching your hobby cheating videos the last few days, you sir are a wealth of information and advice, many many thanks. I hope you and yours are keeping well and happy 😁
"But THAT"S not REAL" - I feel some Morpheus vibes. But seriously, thanks for this video. It's helpful, in a way.
In the end, he secret is, there is no spoon (or failure). ;)
Well said. Trying to do NMM on a legion ATRT and its a struggle to make something out of it.
Failing is always the first step to being okay at something.
Nice video once again! Really like your content. I have a suggestion (unless you've done it already?). Maybe this is not a huge problem for GW fans anymore as their models are quite good casts nowadays (Finecast still exists though), but a comprehensive video how to deal with bad casts and really make it work could be cool. I've personally noticed I don't fail good casts too badly very often anymore, but the story is somewhat different with miniatures that aren't perfect. It's sometimes really demotivating to try your best (especially with comissions) and find out the details are undefined mush..
It's a good suggestion, I will add it to the list, but I will tell you my real answer I try to pursue as much as humanly possible, just don't paint it. Honestly, there are way too many good models on the market to waste time with bad figures anymore. Nothing in a game (rules wise) will make me want to paint a bad miniature. At worst, I'll just convert something that is good into it.
Have you tried changing caps on rattle cans? You can buy them at graffiti stores. It makes all the difference as you can turn cheap car spray from detaildestroyer to zenithalmaster in a second, provided it fits. (I once even took apart shoe spray cap and glued its little nose with superglue on paint cap to similar effect)
Never tried it, but that's very interesting, I will have to look into that.
Hey Vince, I like your stuff a lot, do you have information or tips what to use for subassemblies, I always have the problem with "placing a bit on a stick" and the removal afterward.
I have a video planned sometime, but to be honest, it's something I kind of struggle with myself if you can't easily drive a pin into it (like a head), I basically just blu tack it to a handle and hope for the best.
@@VinceVenturella hihi, at least I know I'm not alone with my problems :-) Thanks
My biggest hobby failure recently was doing zenethial with ultramarines using Citadel Macragge Blue over the zenithial base. I had no end of trouble getting it to work, it just looked like rubbish on each and every attempt. I think that the zenitial prime was ok using grey, black and white Vallejo surface primers and an airbrush but when it came to airbrushing the Macragge blue it all went wrong. I tried to thin the GW Macragge blue with distilled water, with distilled water and W&Newton flow improver (3% to 97% water or so),, I tried to thin the Macragge Blue with Vallejo Matte Medium and it was hopeless the zenithial underneath was just getting covered up by the Macragge Blue. I reached out for help etc and there was little, Vince I think on a thread suggested that I use more transparent paints such as Vallejo Inks, maybe even FW Artists Inks, I tried them and they were better than Macragge Blue but they were just not the same ultramarine colour as Macragge Blue and I am a GW puritarian, I want the proper colours on my minis that GW recommend, at least for the base. So in the end I decided to give up, just prime white and then base coat in Macragge Blue and then maybe use different highlights on plane surfaces (not just the edge highlights) using also Fenrisian Grey, Calgar Blue etc maybe mix these up with Macragge Blue to get a nicer transition - wish me luck with these ideas as I still haven't tried them yet - I grabbed the ideas from some 'Eavy Metal painter who had one of those paint guides, it was just one screen shot with the paints he used pointing to the various parts of the ultramarine but it was enough for me to get new ideas on how to proceed. Lets just say that the tried and tested formula with Macragge Blue, nuln oil wash, calgar blue edge highlight and fenrisian grey grey highlight is fine but I want something mire. I hate just plain old Macragge blue on plane surfaces.
Also Vince rattlecans do mask detail, GW don't tell you that on the sales pitch, excellent for vehicles and terrain though if you are pushed for time.
Interesting on the blue, not sure, but there has to be some ink that matches, you might be able to find the exact color/hue and match it.
Great video, and good points. I feel like the internet has made it even easier to "compare and despair" when it comes to failure. You see this effect on social media where people post the Highlight Reel/Greatest Hits of their life. Like you said, "it isn't real" because it doesn't reflect an accurate picture.
I think you showing your flaws might be both cathartic in some ways for you, as well show that we are all human and make mistakes. It's real easy to put great artists on a pedestal and forget that even they, in all likelihood, have messed up or been upset about their work.
Yep, the world of comparison we all live in has lots of negatives, but it also means we can reach out to each other for strength and help each other along on our hobby journeys, that is what I try to do.
Very profound, and very true!
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Nice to hear something like that!!
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
I start worrying whenever I haven't failed in a long while because it means I'm not pushing my skill envelope hard enough to be increasing in skill. I view all my painting failures through this mental lens and it helps. However, I can also see how this attitude mostly helps with a person like me who is still learning technical skills and fundamentals. Once a person feels "trained" in all the methods they want to be I would imagine the attitude above would become less useful.
That's such a great attitude and I totally agree.
His failure miniature looks amazing to me.
It's one of the challenges, the definition of failure for one always evolves.
I like errors in painting, makes the model unique imo.
It's true, sometimes I have had mistakes open up new options, I wanted to get beyond a single mistake and into when it truly fails. Which can still be good, because we can still learn and and it's still painted, which is always better.
thank you for showing this .
Thank you, happy to help as always.
The productivity of two simultaneous projects goes down without proper preparation... :-)
Working on my Van Saar (the old Gary Morley sculpts), most of it was going great; but I had decided to do their weapons as olive drab polymer so I'd picked up a couple of Army Painter colours I thought would work well for it. I wasn't getting on with the paints themselves, and I couldn't get the colour/texture to look right - call it the hot mess stage...
So I decided to put them on one side and work on some tanks instead.
Unfortunately I put them on one side... of my spray booth... And didn't notice...
Now I've got to work out how to get lots of nice beads of Vallejo grey primer out of the texture of their hair.
Still, I was pretty happy with how the tanks came out :-)
It's a good point, you need to make sure you understand both before you start. As always the 5 P's. Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance.
Great video. As Sergio Calvo always says, "We don't make mistakes, we just create information. If we don't like it, we just create different information."
My most recent failure: I broke the ring finger off of my Lady of Chaos from CC and I have no idea where it went. My poor maimed lady will forever be without finger because I think trying to sculpt a replacement would look... interesting haha. Oops.
Another aspect of painting that I've been struggling with is constant tip-dry while airbrushing. By constant, I mean I will clean the tip of dried paint and paint will dry on the tip again after 5-10 seconds of painting. Have you ever experienced this? My guesses are either issues with paint consistency or I've damaged the nozzle/airbrush component. I might order a new nozzle and see if that makes any difference. The reason I think the nozzle/other component may be an issue is that when I backflow air into the cup, small bubbles leak out of two areas of the business end of the airbrush (1. between the needle cap and nozzle cap & 2. between the nozzle cap and the cap).
Absolutely agree, people treat an errant brush stroke as an insurmountable mountain often, when really, it's just what it is, a tiny stroke of paint, keep it, change it, integrate it, just keep going. :)
I had one model from GW Games Day 2005, I failed at. I took pictures from all angles, took notes on all errors, researched more, let the model sit on the shelf for a year, came up with an actual plan on how to do it right. and than paint stripped and redid the model. this time it turned out fine.
Awesome, sounds like you found the right road forward and pushed through. :)
Hi Vince.
100% agree. Not every piece must be a masterpiece, not every mini must be a crystal brush winner. If you aim for it with every piece you do you probably go insane very quick. Im a tattooist, as you know and last 6 months been rough for me. I wanted to be better so much I forgot how to enjoy my job. I was stressing about every single piece. From a name, infinity symbol or any other. Forgot, that not every piece is a masterpiece. Few weeks ago I've watched some tattoo podcasts on YT and remembered why I do this shit. Miniature painting is my hobby, not a job, but moved to it bit too much because its 'simple' and relaxing time where I dont have to deal with smelly or moving people.
The odd thing is. My best pieces like competition pieces or for books were done for free and usually without competition in mind. The same had with my weirdnob you liked couple years ago. The one with stars in the smoke. There was no stress involved and this ma best ever piece and even now cant push myself to that level.
When I paint for competition I always hit the wall at some stage. I have no idea what to do next. Usually start another one but then I may never finish the one before.
I dont post every single tattoo I ever did but I like to share my mini failures. There is no harm in that but thanks to insagram you can browse through and see your progress. The same thing with my sketchbooks. I have almost every single sketch I did just to see the change.
Thanks for your time wasted reading this and take care. trollz.
Exactly right and so glad it sounds like you are in exactly the right place.
i built a slaanesh exalted chariot, painted in sub assemblies and put it toghether. THEN after some time i hated the work on the chariot frame and considered to crack it to pieces and paint it over... now i am at the point where i just leave it as it is and learn from it. kinda sad with a centerpiece model though.
Well, I would say the KoS is your centerpiece. ;) - That being said, the best part about a model like that is you can always use more chariots. :)
A question - when you're not satisifed with your work do you strip your mini or do you paint over it. I'm find it that whenever I'm not happy with my work I just strip it... which I'm trying to stop 'cos then I don't have any minis to compare myself too.
I almost never strip minis, I just paint over. Basically, barring a bad prime, I try to avoid stripping the mini. My best advice is always keep going and just push through, unless the piece is for competition, (and frankly even if it was), perfect isn't an option, it's not something we achieve, a painted miniature we learn from is always better than one sitting in a Purple Power bath.
I have a (dubiously) tangential question for you. How long should I spend reworking something before I give up and accept where my skills are at? How much do you think I should fail before I accept that I'm not at a level to execute whatever I'm attempting? Do you recommend continuing on with a piece that I know doesn't work? What's do you think is the best course of action? (if it has an effect on your answer - I'm not a gamer. I'm always aiming at display level - trying to work up the discipline to get to competition)
It's a tough question. It's something that I run into all the time. Let me give the theoretical answer. When you move into the learning zone, it's going to feel challenging and you might get it wrong, but you will ultimately feel like you aren't overwhelmed. If you're in a fear zone, then you're going to fail and not feel like you're learning anything.
So let me make that real, if you're working on something and you start to feel like it's bad, put some more work into it and see where you end up. If you're moving forward then keep going, you're learning. If you're pushing ahead and you really don't feel like you're learning or making progress, then never feel bad about walking away. There have been plenty of things I've walked away from because I just felt like I wasn't ready. No shame in that at all.
@@VinceVenturella That is a tremendous help. Thank you for the perspective, Vince. Difficult to have that clarity in the middle of the struggle.
Great video Vince I really enjoy painting but I am never happy with with what I paint I’m never satisfied and constantly stop and start projects after 30 or so hours it just seams like a fail to me I have so many half painted minis it is not even funny at this point. I try new paints and techniques but nothing seams to make me feel like it’s decent at best
I think the answer is finish things. Push yourself to finish more (not everything, as I say, sometimes you have to set it aside), but you need to build the power through part. That final moment is when you can actually judge your work, see where you have opportunities and move on and grow.
Vince Venturella thanks Vince I’m trying I will get something posted this month sorry it’s probably going to be nurgle
I needed this, sorry to necro, but you're the best Vince.
Failure for me is not finding the emotional effect that I was after. What is worse is not knowing the effect that i was after. Freedom is when the project tells you what it is supposed to be as you are working on it. Sounds impossible but it does happen if we keep looking at what we are creating and keep thinking about it. Of course that is the more creative approach and less clinical approach.
Yep, it's a wonderful thing when the project is speaking to you and it just feels like you are painting what wants to be there.
Well....If that is a failure I want to fail like that.....In all seriousness I feel you. I have a poor metal Deathwing terminator that has suffered nearly all my failures. I have stripped that model down, like 5 times and I plan on going on the 6th really soon. Kind like you and that sword, I cant yet tell what is wrong with what I am doing, I just....dont like the end result for no reason I can really tell.
“You done messed up A A Ron.” Hey, tuff guy, you got excited with the model, and jumped the gun, it happens. And what do you mean you’re not perfect master painter?! Dude, you are an amazing painter, mentor, person. There will always be the next model, and you are right, of course, we all need to fail forward, it’s how we grow, learn, and exceed our expectations. “...and if you still feel raw about it...” take a break and come over for a weekend, take my studio for a test drive and/or play some aos, the change of scenery will do you good.
Very true, and yes, I got over excited, but what can you expect, it's hype train - Choo, Choo. :)
A A Ron 😂😂😂😂😂
when whats in your head doesn't appear on the model... you mean theres an alternative to that?
just scrapped an army paint scheme because im incompetent with artist inks, did a scheme that I excited me and I've been plowing through models
That's awesome that you found a scheme you liked and a great example of how failure can turn to success.
Thanks for the insight.
Slightly off topic, but I'm making a series of 3d files in the vein of the Amalia Novena base, with different insignias so I could use it in the rest of my force. Would you like me send you a file for whichever order you're doing?
That is super awesome, I'm doing my own chapter so there is no file I suspect, but it's an awesome offer.
@@VinceVenturella If you get me a drawing of what you want, I can probably get pretty close.
I love you content only got back into minis 4 months ago I'm 32 really struggling to get a decent albino beasts of chaos heavily converted army would love to see you version of albino or maybe your input if I could email pics over ? Keep up the great work from Glasgow Scotland
I don't do individual feedback in that way (I would likely lose time for anything else), but you can feel free to join the PMP, you can find the link in the recent review video I posted. It's a great hobby community and I do reviews of minis posted there. The details are in the video. Glad it's all helpful.
"No mistakes, just happy accidents" 😛
Yes indeed, Bob spoke truth. :)
Missing a spotting hair on the model while the paint is wet was one
Yeah, I have 3 dogs in my office most days, that always kills me.
It's the fear of failure that prevents us from achieving great successes.
Absolutely. :)
So in the project, a thing on how to do "older people" skin might be nice.
And this was awesome, by the way.
Thank you, happy to help and that's a great suggestion.
@@VinceVenturella I tell my martial arts students a lot of the same things, so it was kinda funny to here it on painting minis.
But it is so true. Too many seem to think that a failure is some permanent horrible thing instead of something to learn from.
Before watching: there is only one true answer... set it on fire and start from scratch.
Now to watching.
I may have come to some different conclusions. ;)
I would love to see your failures. Because I've always believed the pros have none
Thank you, always happy to help and I promise, we still fail, it happens all the time. The real difference is just most of the time, we just fight through and keep painting, keep pushing and trust that we will hopefully end up somewhere ok.
Failure = Success that wasn't achieved.
This time, but it also = learnings for the next time. :)
if you're like me and have invested hundreds in paint, supplies and minis an easy way to not fail is to never actually start painting! if you don't ever put any paint on your minis then you will never fail!!!!!
Gotta fight that! Get painting! :)
@@VinceVenturella i know i know but its so difficult to start
@@mrchoochoohead9033 Just start with priming. Take a group assemble them, the prime. Imagine what colors you like to see on them make a simple plan. throw a basecoat on them and work from there. May be start with one test model and push through. They look much better with color the without.
proverbs Vince: 209
Its easy for that 1 comment to stick in our head.
And for that to define what we see as our art project.
BUT THAT'S NOT REAL!
OUR art is OURS to own and OURS to determine if WE think WE failed.
By our OWN standards that WE setup for ourselves.
It is not ANYBODY else's to determined...........
Chapter and Verse.
Except it and move on
Sometimes that is all we can do.