Testing ALL of the 3D Printed Shoes!
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- Getting ALL of the 3d printed shoes in FOR TESTING!
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Joel! DUDE! Thank you for giving my fused footwear a try, it it's super satisfying to see the guy who inspired part of my journey, finally wearing them! You're awesome!
So... Where can we get the STL?
Awesome
Nice feature Philippe! Doin' great!
Those shoes look awesome. One of these days I think I'll get a pair.
Hey I'm curious what software did you use to design these? Thanks.
What all of these miss is the real benefit of 3D printed shoes: one designed specifically for your foot shape.
That should be the goal, a way to scan a foot, and print a shoe for that specific foot. Would really help people with foot problems.
Totally agree. I was going to say the same thing. My local athletic shoe store actually does a full 3D scan of your feet to exact scale and they use that to properly fit shoes to you. They even send the completed 3D scan to you to see all the dimensions and such. Turns out that my feet are actually slightly different dimensions. They look the same to the naked eye, but the scanner picks up the exact dimensions. There's no reason, we couldn't then send these scans to the shoe manufacturer and have them create the shoe around our actual feet. That would be amazing!
An idea would be pressure scanning in addition to 3d scanning the top.
in the new balance stores they do that but they get as close as possible but will fully tailor a shoe to your foot if you custom order it in store but its not 3d printed which honestly is just cool
Zellerfeld does that
athlete's foot is ready and eager for the 3d printing shoes. bring on the dampness and moisture! 😆
and the layer lines!
The shoes can breathe they have holes near the foot.
Aren't most modern shoes all synthetic anyways?
Have you ever swabbed a regular shoe and grown it in culture? I have and I don't imagine it can be much worse, so long as there is airflow
And you can print more when you get there lol
What kind of testing are you actually doing? You just glossed over the FUSE shoes and showed a short clip of you shuffling about on a smooth floor. You didn't even mention the material.
Exactly and he didn't even show the socks underneath
Testing as in rating them
There's not testing man! This is just entertainment for the masses.
@@augustopaixao8911 the video title literally starts with the word 'testing'
He is using TPU, bro. Just use TPU.
It would be nice if there was a 3d printed shoe project that could actually be made at home that was modular, repairable, customizable and could try to off set the enormous amount of wasteful fashion from poorly quality shoes made from exploited labor. Even if it was a mix of traditional and 3d, if it could be done at home that could be actually useful. I wear through shoes regularly, kind of tired of giving money to companies that intentionally make shoes that will fail. Its not the most complicated product, I look forward to seeing more shoe content
IMHO it is more of a filament issue than design. The TPU that we can typically print is still to stiff and hard to walk in all day. The Dutch gave up on wearing wooden shoe...lol.
@@-D3D3 Actually wooden clogs are fairly comfortable when they're made to your foot because all points of your sole is supported. And the wood will mould itself overtime through use, making it fit even better. The main reason they're not common is because custom handmade wooden shoes are really expensive compared to mass produced sneakers.
Are your feet not sweating in these 3D printing shoes?
Marinating*
Zellerfeld shoes are very well ventilated, because they are printed with no walls and porous infill in the upper
@@JSZ69420 the shoes on those shoes will be in everyone's organs and bloodstream within a year as well as the soles would be so worn down that you'll need a new pair already so you can start the micro plastic factory all over again. I legitimately think EVA foam soles need to be banned.
@@MeltyBubs that's true of basically all shoes containing rubber, but the biggest source of microplastics is car tires. The best way to reduce microplastics in the environment is to convince as many people and politicians as possible that we need to build trains and bike lanes and build mixed use cities so people can walk to where they need to go
@@thedudeamongmengs2051 after looking it up I do not agree, because the information is boggled. Rubber is not a plastic. It is a polymer and an elastimer (sp?) but is not a plastic. But after searching do car tires produce micro plastics and stuff like that it says the rubber particles that come from car tires are considered micro plastics only because of size and composition. So, I do not agree that rubber is a micro plastic because it isn't plastic. They can call it a micro polymer if they want, lol. Regardless, a car tire lasts infinitely longer than any EVA foam sole which if your actually a runner can be worn through within a few months compared to a regular pair of shoes with RUBBER soles which will last many many years.
Joel!! I 3d printed my own boots! (add a micro-controller and LEDs as well).
I am actually coming to Seattle Jun 1-8 for a conference... I'd love to show you my 3d printed boots if you're around!
Sent you a message in discord as well.
People still swear by a pair of well fitting wooden clogs, maybe its a path worth looking down (Rigged 3D printed clogs).
those first shoes should be called "Frost Walkers"
Basically they are ice boots
Minecraft reference. 👍
These 3D printed shoes felt so good! Impressive stuff
I occasionally suffer from gout. Being able to customise some sort of crocks would be amazing. Normally people have issues with the big toe, so you could have the sole the sort of falls away and adds extra room.
Count yourself lucky for being able to walk at all when gout is active. I can't.
@3D Printing Nerd Joel I love the real review of them and the idea behind 3D printed shoes. My only question is how long did it take to wear them out? If they wear out on 6mo or a year that is about what I get out of traditionally manufactured shoes. The design alone would be well worth it as long as they can make them last a decent amount of time.
Mine (fused) last about as long as classic converse's
Sick intro dude 🔥🔥🔥
11:35 big toe box for the squatch toes. 😜
I'm interested in seeing how those Kaiju shoes hold up over time. Looking forward to a future update.
Amazing stuff! I see that others brought up the idea of scanning the foot to make a real custom-fit shoe. I'm pretty sure some bright person is doing that right now!
On a different note: I see that PCBWay is still a sponsor, and it is a company I have used to make a number of prototype PCBs over that last several years. Very easy to work with, fast service, and good quality. All in all, a great company to have as a sponsor!
It's funny that those socks are the exact hue of blue you're wearing, lol. Like, dude really did his research when gifting you those. 😂 Really interesting shoes, too.
Yeah, after seeing all the shoes, Phillip definitely did the best. I've been watching 3d printed shoes since day 1, hoping someday it could break the mold on what's possible in creative design. And his shoes definitely has started on that path.
Hey Joel! Can you elaborate a little bit on what features you want in a utility shoe, and in what way the Zellerfelds fall short in that respect? I'm whipping up some trail runners right now, but can adapt to whatever geometries or features needed.
Being all one color just makes them look weird. Even making them lace up instead of slip on and using some laces of a contrasting color would go a long way in making them look more traditional and thus more appealing to a wider segment of the population.
Excellent video!!!!!!!!!!! Could you tell us more about the materials in the different shoes? Here in Argentina there is not a wide range of flexible materials available
Hiking shoes is a great idea - you spend so much time in them that fit and comfort are incredibly important, but also traction, breathability, and water resistance are important factors. That will be a tricky development task.
Yeah, waterproof and breathability don’t mix well with plastic material only
You got me ❤. I am getting the last one to try it out 🎉😮
They are awesome !
Adidas 4d look awesome BUT that big toe hole is a massive issue. Also we’re wildly uncomfortable for me to wear when running. But look really dang cool
I tried the trail shoes (Ultras) and they are basically socks with a small pad underneath. Horrible design, do not get those. Twisted my ankle while doing a hiking test.
That's because they aren't really for running, they are 'just' for looking dang cool! 🙃
It would be interesting to see how the tpu material is stored before printing, the slicer settings and environment of the print area while printing to make such nice looking tpu products. Also, it would be nice to know which tpu manufacturer and hardness is used and if there is any post processing of the surfaces. It looks like these companies got it down to a science on how to print tpu, at least for shoes!
FYI you can use resin printer to print flexable rubber now. It may be possible to 3d print on a resin printer a shoe without layer lines. That said it would need to be a large format printer, probably not a hobby grade machine just based on the size requirement. But you can get a rubber like consistency UV resin now, I just got some and am surprised how well it can actually work.
What a fun review of the latest in 3D printed footwear! Wholeheartedly agree on assessment of Adidas/Carbon3D shoes. Having tried multiple pairs and run a few hundred miles in them the 3D printed midsole has held up perfectly but the traditional fabrics failed far too soon. Hopefully Adidas figures this out and the tech only gets better because from a shock absorption / comfort standpoint they're some of my favorite shoes. Just don't try to move around in them too much!
I think it is an excellent video, I hope to see in the future how this 3D technology merges with traditional manufacturing to generate more comfortable and durable products. At the end of your video it is clear that if done well it is possible to manufacture very comfortable footwear components.
I want to find a way to combine 3d printed shoes with 3d scanning to make one off perfect comfort shoes
Needs also modeling based on pressure maps.
The Kaiju shoes look like they can do radar detectors... not that you'll ever be able to run fast enough for that to matter 😅
Would be cool to see 3D printing advance to a level where prints could be precise as threads in fabric. Creating fine mesh for breathable, wearable clothing would be crazy! Great video!
Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his 3D printed shoes.
High-5!
What I am curious to see is a hybrid boot. I am into traditionally made leather boots, and have been learning construction methods, and I am interested in these. I wonder if a boot that utilizes a hybrid of something like a leather body with tpu at the flex points, (decreasing crease lines in certain areas) along with a tpu outsole and something like ABS or another stiff material for a shank and maybe parts of the lugs, among other things, could be viable.
I have been waiting for this day for a long time
I only buy shoes based on my Euro or UK sizing, because it's based on centimeter measurements instead of some wild guess. It's crazy that in US I'm a size X in one brand, and an X-1 in another, and an X+1 in another. Even with half sizes in US you'd think they would at least get close, but no.
…it’d be great to add 3d scanning to the mix so that the result was a shoe printed to order that was an exact fit, even for feet that were a bit wider, narrower higher etc
Zellerfeld does that with their shoes. These were just samples to play with
I think we are barely grazing the surface for sure. Hiking boots with spiky bottoms and stretchy latches that fix them firmly to your calf? 3D printed material interwoven into a traditional manufacturing fabric or tread to give it the ultimate bond? So many avenues.
Zellerfeld makes the most comfortable shoes in the world
What materials do they use for the sole?
The part at the end got me thinking. Someone should 3D print a steel toe shoe 🤔
怪獣(kaiju) means monster btw.
I think we're overlooking a MASSIVE market edge here ... custom orthotics printed into the shoe. pair that with some more traditional shoe styling and you'd probably devastate the shoe industry. just about everyone has a CVS or similar somewhat near them with one of those dr scholl's foot scanners near the pharmacy. just send in a pic of the graph and here's your shoes.
They will ALWAYS find something to include in a shoe that they can use to time the failure point. They don't want to sell shoes that last forever.
I would love to 3D print my own shoes and be somewhat comfortable. It would be a game changer for making it your own design!
Yes, I made it to the end and I'm still waiting for the test to begin...
finally we need to go on thats soo cool
Vivo is also starting with 3d printed shoes with the scan of the foot
Zellerfeld did it first !
@@JSZ69420 Your not wrong but competition is always good.
As you have an XL as well as other big printers (like the Orange Storm Giga), I was expecting at least one or two pairs of self-printed shoes... even I have done it on my P1S. Which was, to be honest, not working really well as my feet are to big. The shoes finished, they fit - but they are not really nice.
Now you wear those Zellerfeld shoes regularly for half a year and tell us how they hold up. Thanks in advance. :)
There's a guy who's done well over a million steps in them already, works as a warehouse picker I think
3d printed work shoes would be awesome in work environments with non slip shoes with company logos.
Have you considered printing your own I plan to make a pair for my son (toddler) this weekend
All this ability to fix the issues with current footwear and none have addressed the heel height and shoe box width. Barefoot shoes are the way, and 3D printer creators can make a zero lift heel without issue yet still make these sweat inducing foot deformers.
Working on it!
Looks like one of those feetz shoes took up smoking lol.
3D printed shoes should have built-in ductwork to provide ventilation.
I have the catch 22 that "walking around a city at a quick pace" combined with "sitting still at a desk" is apparently how to utterly destroy shoes. The sole rips off, it gets punctured, the fabric rips, it gets bad and this tends to happen in 3-6 months... the catch 22 is that I've had this happen with budget shoes that cost $20 and more expensive shoes (the highest I went was $70...). I walk rain, shine, and snow, and remember asking Pooch about the Adidas and he said "it's fair weather footwear" and if I'm gonna spent 3 figures on shoes, I'm doing it once, not for fair weather + bad weather. I just can't bring myself to spend $100-$300 on shoes that could get destroyed in 3-6 months. I have a bunch of friends who tell me "it's higher quality, it will last longer" but after poking them they eventually get to "well, you'd probably destroy them in the same time but for a high quality shoe, you can get it repaired" and I had to bring in consumerism: $100 for 1 shoe every 3-6 months vs. $100 for 2-5 shoes that each can last 3-6 months... I'm gonna go with the cheaper shoe.
All that is to get to the point: I'd love to 3D print my own shoes or the parts of the shoe that break... and right now, cost vs length of time it lasts is not there, and then seeing the quality issues with the Adidas just makes it harder still. One day.
then you say humongous feet I have to ask what size you are? I am apparently a size 16 if I convert to us sizes.
It just dawned on me that at some point 3D-printed shoes might be a thing for orthopaedics to help flat feet like myself
Would be interesting if one of these lasts longer than a regular foam shoe with the different material. My shoes right now have a super big hole after a year. The foam shoes use just isn't very strong
Vivo Biome, might be an intresting search for shoes.
this video is missing "here is a tool that lets you print your own shoe for your own foot measurements"
What's the material used for shoe printing
Mostly tpu and tpe. But with the new foaming flexibles, things will get really interesting!
those Kaiju's are awesome
I'll say the shoes in the video need pull tabs at the back of the shoes since often times the shoes are just big enough to fit your foot and ankle and doesn't always have space for a finger to get in the shoe to get it on the foot right.
Adidas needed to make some hook and press fit points on to their carbon fiber mid sole allowing the bottom sole and the traditional top part of the shoe,
to better adhere to the carbon fiber mid sole since the different materials mean all pieces of the shoe aren't able to stick to each other for long time; were if the carbon fiber mid sole had hooks and pressure points for other parts of the shoe then the other parts of the shoe will stick to the carbon fiber mid sole over and over again throughout the daily use of the shoe since other parts of the shoe will keep on sticking to the carbon fiber mid sole better through the every day use of the shoe as they break in and set/stick to one other the person wearing the shoe moves around in them.
Dude! Those kaiju shoes look friggin amazing!
yeah they do
Ugly as hell. Should be given away with any purchase of a cybertruck. :-D
I’d just like for them to make a custom insole file that I can print to put in any shoe (even my 👠 ) that works for my high arches.
someone had to test them all 👍
Zellerfeld is awesome !
As a runner, what I really want is a shoe where I can 3D print a replacement outsole!
nice video great work
BLESSED
"How you gonna take them off, nerd!?"
That's an interesting dynamic: resolution from 1975 printed in 2024. 😁
question is how long did the addidas last before they started breaking?
Around 3 months
you should 3d print a sweater !
As a footwear retailer (this is my opinion, not those of my company) the crucial piece of information that is missing about the Adidas is the age of the shoes. Most shoes are only meant to last a year to 2 at best, (which matches the warranty most companies have) and the issues Joel showed are both very common failures in traditional running shoes, let alone 3d printed ones. I blow through running shoes made similarly, except for the 3d printing, in six months on average. Usually it’s my little toe searching for freedom through the fabric, sometimes the sole rips off, and ultimately 100% of the time the midsole gets crushed flat. The compression set of EVA midsoles over time is ultimately why they don’t warranty shoes past a couple of years, because EVA Foam just can’t handle sustained loads for that long. So the fact that the 3d printed midsole held up so well is actually a really cool positive development in creating more sustainable footwear.
So ya, if they failed like this in a month or two then that is problematic, six months with the use described it makes sense why Adidas did a warranty replacement, and if a year plus well they’ve lived a good life, time to replace them, and Adidas found out Joel was a TH-camr. I’m not trying to say that it was ok they failed, but given modern manufacturing techniques this was always the likely outcome, where weight and performance and comfort have taken priority over long term durability. So depending on how long before those problems occurred, it might be a little unfair to say that this model is a failure in context of how shoes are made and perform today.
Yeah, shoes are a scam and crap across the board these days. Most aren't even available in size 17-18 and if they are they're shaped all wrong, narrow toeboxes and such, and they usually don't last past a week. A few days in and the midsole just collapses to mush, the shoe feels like a lumpy slipper and my back and knees hurt from walking crooked.
Bruh, shoes used to be good, but fashion over function and planned obsolesence made them shit aside from 'looking good', which i both don't really care about AND usually consider ugly or gaudy and cringe.
Airwalks were the worst, i used to wear OG Airwalks and Vision Street Wear back in the day and both were solid and would last. It took skating big roof gaps to collapse the soles. Now Airwalks won't last a single park session, i blew through two pairs of Airwalks in a day and was skating barefoot by sunset.
I wear pretty much only modded DC Courts these days, only shoe with a decent shape and big toebox i can find, even other DC models don't fit right. To keep them from collapsing i strip the guts out and bed the midsole airgaps with shoe goo, about 1.5 tubes per shoe and make the entire midsole solid. I also reinforced the inside seams with a layer and so far it's lasted about two months with no signs of collapsing. I just don't understand why they can't make a shoe like that from the factory, even as a paid upgrade. It costs me like an extra $30 of shoe goo and a few days to cure, i'd gladly pay an extra $40 or so for a legit solid shoe i don't have to disassemble and rebuild.
But like FFS if you're selling a size 18 shoe you'd think they'd make it with a midsole that can bear the weight and forces of someone with size 18 feet. I'm not a 90lb wealking on waterskis, if i'm fasting and down to skin and bones i'm still around 220lb naked and more with all my gear and backpack and whanot.
I heard Supras have a solid urethane midsole, i've always wanted some so bad but they don't make anything bigger than 14 IIRC.
I originally got into 3d printing with the intention to make my own shoes back in around 2012-2013, i wanted to make molds so i can pour my own urethane midsole parts from quality materials instead of crap like EVA and mushy weak rubber and roll my own uppers, but i got distracted by all the other cool things it can do. Lately though i've been heavily into 3d printed moldmaking and have a lot of knowledge and experience that will help me out, so they might just be coming soon.
But as for the directly 3d printed shoes, they all look like disposable gimmick fake swap meet louie yeezies, and yeezies are just glorified atrocious looking crocs in the first place. But then again that's pretty much all modern shoes. They just don't make 'em like they used to and nobody seems to remember back when they weren't all single use disposable fast fashion trash.
Shoes should last much longer than a year. That's so much waste.
Would love to 3D print myself some shoes as I really struggle getting shoes in my size! (Size 16 UK, 17 US)
I still think they should implement this with 3D scanners to get the perfect size for everyone's feet, it's the best process for it (and also not make narrow shoes with it which causes everyone's feet all kinds of problems..)
Anybody know what material would be best to 3d print sockets for driving bolts/nuts?
You’d want something a bit reinforced. Hand turning could easily be a PETG or ASA / ABS. However for driving it with a tool, you’d probably need CF Nylon.
@@3DPrintingNerd thank you, I have tried 100% infill PETG-CF and it mushroomed around the driving tool. Would you think something like ABS or ASA better? Or just go straight to CF Nylon?
5:07 I think they 3d modeled and printed the originals the injection molds were made from.
The adidas 4d shoes are great
There is a “left and a right”, maybe I can finally get unlimited left shoes 🤔
I love the idea of 3d printing some parts of a shoe, but I would absolutely not wear one that was 100% printed, they all look clownish. Adidas are on the right track, it's too bad they cheaped out on the materials for the top, but that's a great concept.
I'm still not clear on the advantages of the 3d printed parts.
@@harmless6813 You're on to something. In the case of Adidas the 3d printing was to create a complex pattern of gaps in the sole that made it springy. Looks like they printed that with rubber resin, which is likely way out of reach of most of us.
If I were making my own shoe, I wouldn't take that route at all. I'd design a sole for my foot, add the traction pattern I want, then FDM print a sacrificial negative of it, and use it to cast a rubber positive. Voila - now I have a _real_ sole, one that is durable and flexible. Then I'd 3d print a jig to help me assemble an upper around, also shaped for my foot, and around that jig sew an actual upper out of nylon fabric, once again, like a _real_ shoe. Then glue the upper to the sole using whatever black magic glue sneaker makers use.
This sounds like way more work than just sending a shoe STL to a printer, but I get a _real_ shoe out of it, and my 3d printer would help a huge part of the way. Shoe's are not made from a single thing, they're complex devices that have to be comfortable, durable and breathable.
FWIW I use 3d printing to make design concepts for clients - clients want concepts in epoxy, silicon, cement, plaster etc, but 3d printing makes it so much easier to shape those media, and all my clients love how the 3d printing is helping them zero in on manufacturing questions from the very start of the process.
How to find good shoes that I can print?
I 3d printed a pair of MSCHF big red boots in tpu on my anycubic
What files did you use and how did sizing go?
@@jimmylongnose I went on printables and found a file for finger big red boots from bigovereasy and scaled them up until they just barely fit my print bed.
Those first shoes look like they would really hurt if they accidentally hit your calves...anyone know what printer that is with the glowing red acrylic in the background??
I love the kaiju shoes ❤ waooo wonder if they ship to Denmark
They might!
I wanted to know how long they lasted and what you could print them on. If they only last a few days or you can't print them at home, they are not yet worth it.
All the shoes he's shown are daily wearable in my experience and opinion. And of course Joel has a pretty excellent track record oh honest and realistic reviews
I'd rather print my own shoes -- looking for good files. 😁
I want a wall of filament!!!
Zellerfeld's are like 300, just FYI.
I would have bought the zellerfeld shoes but they’re very expensive
I'm happy you refer to the Adias shoes, not as 3d printed, but note they use a 3d printed component. The idea that if something has some percentage of 3d printed components, that people call them 3d printed is like nails on a chalkboard.
e.g. - a computer case which is composed of about 75% 3d printed components, is not a 3d printed case.
Every industry does this. In the beef industry it’s “angus”. The definitions get skewed to mean something very different than the consumer is lead to believe. And most of the time, we consumers just go along with it because we don’t know any better.
😂Those are some cyber truck shoes..
I allllmost printed a pair of crocs - but thankfully that was only a three second thought…
hmmm... I do need a new pair of shoes... >_>
After watching this, I'm of the opinion that someone needs to go back to the beginning of footwear and make a parametric sandle with a conpliant mechanism to strap them on. You know just enough shoe to provide a sole and maybe a bit of a toebox. But... least possible. This is just because, the less shoe there is, the fewer fail points it has.
but joel... do they make you run faster?
8:10 they need cow hide uppers with carbon lowers rather than synthetic crap with carbon.
Yeah - I know the carbon is synthetic too…buts it’s durable.
Wait till they get plant based 3d printed material.
Plant based 3D printed material like PLA?
Thanks!
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@@3DPrintingNerd Joel and David I have been eyeing the Zellerfelds for a while now. I just did the custom fitting online. I hope they feel well and I get them in time for Rapid. See you at 3DCERAM.
I want the Kaiju ones in black
OOH YESSSS
These are cool. I'm disappointed you talked so much about the material properties without ever saying what material they were printed with :(
Cool!