Thanks for the video. I have the exact same bike, but I hav enot opened it up yet. Was there a noticeable ridge on the cam shaft, or is it just the discoloration that looks like there is a ridge of wear?
theres a youtuber hes got a 790 his camshafts failed he missed a ktm service but he had receipts from ktm for oil and filters they refused warranty he paid £2700 for ktm to repair ..hes now been fully paid up from ktm for the whole amount
Yours are not bad at 16k but they are more worn than I would expect. Early signs of pending failure. At 20k I would replace them as they will likely deteriorate rapidly once the hardening fails. Acceptable on a race motor but not on a mass produced bike. Great performing bikes but come at a price. All the KTM talk of cleaning cams etc is nonsense. Just masking the problem and cheating the customer. Always wanted a KTM for performance but can't bring myself to buy one. That's why I have a tenere. I would rather give away 20bhp than be stuck at the side of the road or up a mountain.
I would love to do the same and have bought a T7 back in the days with the knowledge and skills I currently have. The lack in power is something you are not going to miss anyway in the dirt. Not sure how long they will last, the engine only will loose power and is not going to explode or something. So I hope I can ride another 3 years without minimal issues and that the camshafts are not expired yet in 6 years total. But as you said, the hardening fails and once that started I am curious how long it will be before they are completely gone.
So when you inspected your cams you said minimal wear. The images on you video did not show wear. You then detail all the cost involved. Why not take it back to KTM get them to inspect it and if there is actual wear, which I cant see based on what you showed, then they will replace the cams. I think you are making this more than it is.
@@johnherbert5919 so your saying, nobody but KTM can say the cams are worn? Or do i misunderstood you?. These cams are not completely worn but the do show wear on the lopes that you can feel with your finger..
Fun thing because beside you there are 1000 other riders who "sort of" denies the problem. If you compare these camshafts with other bikes, Let's say a Yamaha T7 or so. With around 100k on it. You'll probably see the same results. And that is the issue with these KTM shafts. They have the same wear on them, in like way too early, as they should have at 100k. But I am not sure which video you watched because there is visible wear on the cams visible in this video. If you open your bike and you have the same wear on your shafts. Would you be happy with it or not? I've seen cases where they were done already. So for me this is fine. I agree that there is minimal wear, but there is wear available. If you go over with it on your finger and especially your nail. It was clearly noticeable. For me this is okay because I can probably ride with it another couple of years.
@@JaxsRacingGarage So why not take it back to KTM and have it fixed under warrenty? My 790 has had a cam replaced but it also had some work done to fix the reason the cams have wear, the oil squirters.
@@JaxsRacingGarage When my valve clearances were checked by the dealer they saw wear on the cam and it was replaced at no cost, and the oil squirter's were replaced, which is actually what causes the issue. . I have just asked again at my local KTM dealer and they said if the cams are worn they will be replaced at KTM's cost. My 790 is a 2019 with 51 thousand kilometers and long out of warranty but still covered regarding the cams. So if you telling people to do it themselves you could be costing them money. Also you dont mention the oil squirter issue in your video so replacing your cams without fixing this part may be mean the wear will just continue.
Found nothing? Did you watch the video? He clearly found his cams have wear on them. Are they still serviceable, sure but they shouldn't look like that.
@AllAverageAdventures is totally right in this one. They should not look like this at only 16,8k kilometers. I will check them again once I notice that the bike is performing differently or when I double my current kilometers. Hope I can tell the exact same is this video.
Always run the engine to operating temperature before changing the oil. More residue comes out with hot thin oil keeping your new oil cleaner
I will print your comment and bring it with me next time, thanks a lot 👌🏻
Thanks for the video. I have the exact same bike, but I hav enot opened it up yet. Was there a noticeable ridge on the cam shaft, or is it just the discoloration that looks like there is a ridge of wear?
No you could feel the ridge with your nails
As Jarno said (my mechanic in this video) you could feel it with your nail. very minimal, but it was there indeed.
theres a youtuber hes got a 790 his camshafts failed he missed a ktm service but he had receipts from ktm for oil and filters they refused warranty he paid £2700 for ktm to repair ..hes now been fully paid up from ktm for the whole amount
So they refused, but eventually they end up paying him 🤔 okay thanks
Yours are not bad at 16k but they are more worn than I would expect. Early signs of pending failure. At 20k I would replace them as they will likely deteriorate rapidly once the hardening fails. Acceptable on a race motor but not on a mass produced bike. Great performing bikes but come at a price. All the KTM talk of cleaning cams etc is nonsense. Just masking the problem and cheating the customer. Always wanted a KTM for performance but can't bring myself to buy one. That's why I have a tenere. I would rather give away 20bhp than be stuck at the side of the road or up a mountain.
I would love to do the same and have bought a T7 back in the days with the knowledge and skills I currently have. The lack in power is something you are not going to miss anyway in the dirt.
Not sure how long they will last, the engine only will loose power and is not going to explode or something. So I hope I can ride another 3 years without minimal issues and that the camshafts are not expired yet in 6 years total.
But as you said, the hardening fails and once that started I am curious how long it will be before they are completely gone.
So when you inspected your cams you said minimal wear. The images on you video did not show wear. You then detail all the cost involved. Why not take it back to KTM get them to inspect it and if there is actual wear, which I cant see based on what you showed, then they will replace the cams. I think you are making this more than it is.
@@johnherbert5919 so your saying, nobody but KTM can say the cams are worn? Or do i misunderstood you?. These cams are not completely worn but the do show wear on the lopes that you can feel with your finger..
Fun thing because beside you there are 1000 other riders who "sort of" denies the problem. If you compare these camshafts with other bikes, Let's say a Yamaha T7 or so. With around 100k on it. You'll probably see the same results. And that is the issue with these KTM shafts. They have the same wear on them, in like way too early, as they should have at 100k.
But I am not sure which video you watched because there is visible wear on the cams visible in this video. If you open your bike and you have the same wear on your shafts. Would you be happy with it or not? I've seen cases where they were done already. So for me this is fine.
I agree that there is minimal wear, but there is wear available. If you go over with it on your finger and especially your nail. It was clearly noticeable. For me this is okay because I can probably ride with it another couple of years.
@@JaxsRacingGarage So why not take it back to KTM and have it fixed under warrenty? My 790 has had a cam replaced but it also had some work done to fix the reason the cams have wear, the oil squirters.
Because KTM charges you ridiculous amount of money before even checking it, And this was all for free?
@@JaxsRacingGarage When my valve clearances were checked by the dealer they saw wear on the cam and it was replaced at no cost, and the oil squirter's were replaced, which is actually what causes the issue. . I have just asked again at my local KTM dealer and they said if the cams are worn they will be replaced at KTM's cost. My 790 is a 2019 with 51 thousand kilometers and long out of warranty but still covered regarding the cams. So if you telling people to do it themselves you could be costing them money. Also you dont mention the oil squirter issue in your video so replacing your cams without fixing this part may be mean the wear will just continue.
How many km ?
16,8k
16.8 kilometer?
16.876 Kilometers to be exact
Buy a KTM, and you'll be a mechanic. 😅
Hahaha 😂 glad I like working on the bike. Else it would costs 🥲
Ok.
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Change oil more often. Lookes black
My last oil change was 19 March 2024. Isn't that "more often" or do I need to do it even more 🤔
Ok now that you found nothing and are speculating about the future , make sure you post another video that shows no problems.
Found nothing? Did you watch the video? He clearly found his cams have wear on them. Are they still serviceable, sure but they shouldn't look like that.
@@AllAverageAdventures Yes
@AllAverageAdventures is totally right in this one. They should not look like this at only 16,8k kilometers.
I will check them again once I notice that the bike is performing differently or when I double my current kilometers. Hope I can tell the exact same is this video.