well they also do get the edge once they practice. this is the cycle of coaching, you get information but then it’s up to you to apply it and grow as a player and I think that’s beautiful really. this is the moment it makes click but then you realize that it’s going to take some serious work to integrate this into your gameplay which however respects your time and dedication more than a mindless grind
People will see this is 20 min and not watch. But they’ll throw hours of gameplay. My boi literally giving specific tips on how to literally take less damage. This is KEY. MOVEMENT IS FOREVER. People think aim is everything, but what use is your aim, when even I don’t know where I’m going to be moving 😈
@@tylerblomker3633 I mean he went over it in the video, slow strafing targets are much easier to hit than crouch a+d spamming people. Same deal with jumping, it's a very obvious and predictable arc to track or pre aim. unless you a+d strafe mid air... like he mentioned in the video.. when you get to higher elo you try to get every little adv you can, even if its like -5% chance of getting hit
@@tylerblomker3633 Movement in this game is crazy, like if you learn how to abuse strafing to manipulate your hitbox you can be almost untouchable unless the other guy is on crack. Proper movement will mess with 99% of players.
@@Qazwerty777 I was kidding but yeah I can tell the difference in movement big time from the lower ranks. I'm not super high level but I started bronze now I'm mid diamond on every role.
The problem with giving Ana's nade a benefit only when used on herself (such as a self speed boost) is that she would then be punished for using it to save a teammate or offensively to help with a push, since she sacrifices her escape ability.
So how should you strafe into a soldier, sojourn, or even hanzo? I feel like if you ad crouch spam like you do they kinda aim at the middle, yes it works for all the hitscan heros that need to headshot but hanzo can just aim at the middle too and could at worst body shot you twice, sojourn can just left click in the middle and doesn't need to railgun, same for soldier
Strafing spam can be ineffective vs projectiles because you are technically making your hitbox larger as the projectiles are out there for a longer time
use a mix of short+med strafes short strafes are countered by aiming at the middle, as you say, but medium strafes require some tracking, so if you can switch between the two, what happens is the opponent (at least from a pure mouse aiming perspective) has to do is start and stop moving their mouse. Obviously, they'll try to use good movement to counter your dodge pattern, but this is usually a pretty good one to start with. next thing to keep in mind is that the counter to short/med strafe is if they take longer strafes to work themselves towards your sides, you need to be aware of them trying to do this. normally, what you want to do vs that is stop short/med strafing, and use a long anti-mirror strafe, sometimes with some backwards movement
These are absolutely terrific tips, but my question is this: how do you improve your ability to aim while doing all of this movement? You talked a bit about the tradeoff between weak/linear movement and aiming accurately or strong/unpredictable movement and aiming less consistently, but how do you get better at aiming more consistently while keeping good movement? What is the best way to train or practice this?
Biggest thing with movement is knowing when to prioritize movement over accuracy, this is usually the case when the opponent you are facing against has higher damage singular shots while youre offering higher rate of fire, so soldiers for example can freely move like madmen while dueling widows, ashe, cass etc. However I think the most important thing to learn is to learn to aim against specific heroes instead, learn to change your movement according to their rate of fire, changing direction every time ashe or cass have their shot up basically, learn to utilize and abuse that downtime in their dps. For example if youre cass against soldier theres no point moving like he does in this video w the fast ad crouch spam because you need to prioritize accuracy since soldier can just spray and pray bodyshots while you need headshots. The thing with unpredictable movement is that your aim also becomes unpredictable because even you cant control and acknowledge all the inputs, so lets say youre ashe versus ashe you want to shoot on your turn, between their shots.
Yo for Cassidy, isn't it easy to hit you on fast A+D crouch spam if they're just body shotting? They could just leave their crosshair in one place on your chest and even get some headshots in?
Make one of your lateral strafes longer than the other so that they aren't the same distance, that will force them to not leave their cross hair in one place.
Still aren't used to this technique, I think l am doing it wrong, that applies to most things I do. Instead of Alt, l thought of using mouse 5, one of the buttons either the forward or back button on the left side of the mouse. Was it good? l do feel it is faster with my thumb
Hey i recently came back to overwatch and i use to be a master soldier main, now the ranks made me g4 but i climbed to diamond for the moment, i dont have a lot of time for playing so i watch pro stuff and imitate it to learn so can you make a soldier ow2 guide or soldier gameplay analysis on every map or commentary i would love to see that, kabaji guy
A bit late to the party but is there a proper way to practice good movement and break bad habits? At least in the way that it is native to an Overwatch veteran.
I wish I could spam crouch or change directions that fast on console. Sure I can use paddles, but I can’t do it nearly as fast and I can’t use the joysticks as well for aiming
18:17 I did that once against a widow when fading to her to kill her But unlucky for me she had a mercy come to her when she killed me she tbagged me and said ? In chat I literally had to explain I wasn't tbagging she gave 0 fucks and when the game finishes bitch flames me
putting crouch on alt is agame changer. I have been palying with in on q for years and its definitely hindered my movement. Gonna take a while to get used to it but give it a few weeks and I'll have the aids adad crouch movement down haha
I asked the same question, I've watched surefour's movement guide and depending on what you play, if you have a full auto gun you can do a bit longer strafes like he said on tracer, or if you play a more lethal character like cree hanzo ashe etc you need to move in a way that's easy for you to hit shots while not being too easy to track, because it's more important for you to hit your shots than dodge the shots.
there is no one pattern of movement which is good vs any hero. the basic principle of movement is to do what they aren't expecting. this can mean metronome strafes for half a second then an awkwardly long strafe. both movements by themselves are shit but if you time them right you can completely short circuit their ability to aim. the best example of this is the wall lick, where you simply run into a wall as if you've dc'd. people usually can't handle that and will aim to the side waiting for you to counterstrafe. it might sound stupid but this stuff works against OWL players in 1v1s when they're just focused on mechanics, works even better in comp. the real secret to good movement is to do a lot of 1v1s and try stuff and see what works, with a mind to juke and avoid whatever they are trying to do.
I think alt crounch spamming is easier then ctrl crouch spamming but I got killed so many times while trying to press tab while being on crouch and it was alt+tab amd I'm literally afk for a second (hdd) so when Im sneaking around I use ctrl and when I'm crouch spamming I prefer alt (I wish you could change alt tab bind to something else pleaseseaseaesa)
weird idea, you could try swapping jump and crouch (space and ctrl) since jumping is a death sentence against good players anyway. That way, you can abuse crouch spam more easily and train your own brain to prioritize crouch spam over jumping.
anyone here kinda understands the ranked system? my avg dmg is 13.000 (with a lot of 4 man ults blabla) and yesterday i finished my rankings with 7 wins 3 losses. i got ranked silver 1. im not complaining cuz i know im a between plat and dia normally but how's that possible? LOL
My English is not the best but it's ok but when someone speaks so fast and suddenly stops in the middle of a sentence and starts with a new topic...I don't know but I feel handicapped right now because I couldn't understand 50% of the video I feel just handicapped and i'm going to shit in my face because of the video now. Thank you very much for the tutorial and see more videos from you soon.
Hey kabaji, tracer actually does not throw her bomb from the right hand. Every single projectile/hitscan goes right from the center of the camera where the crosshair placed. U can clearly see it when you place crosshair on some kind of wall or corner and try to shoot as pharah or even use tracer bomb. Trail can go through wall, but the projectile itself goes right where you placed your crosshair
Cree que Jesucristo murió en la cruz por tus pecados y resucitó de entre los muertos tres días después y arrepiéntete del pecado. El juicio está llegando a este mundo. También te arrepientes constantemente. Jesús llegará pronto. En cualquier momento puedes morir y si no tienes razón con Cristo, te irías al infierno. Si murieras ahora mismo, ¿te irías al cielo o al infierno?
Workshop Code: 5R6CQ
Did u get out from diamond👍🏻😂
@@qasimahmed7051 Classic Qasim 😂😂🤣
Thanks for finally giving me someone to practice with.
you can also try NVXVY which allows you to record actions and play them back
thank you so much cabbage i went from silver to top500 by playing bap as dps only
Cabbage
ayo thats what I did
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
😂😂😂
its always hilarious when he starts fast strafing and says "like how the fuck are you going to hit that"
great video cabbage I went from top 500 to silver 3 in just 3 days following these tips!!!
Videos like this make the game big, everyone just wants to go play after this because they think they got an edge
well they also do get the edge once they practice. this is the cycle of coaching, you get information but then it’s up to you to apply it and grow as a player and I think that’s beautiful really. this is the moment it makes click but then you realize that it’s going to take some serious work to integrate this into your gameplay which however respects your time and dedication more than a mindless grind
People will see this is 20 min and not watch. But they’ll throw hours of gameplay. My boi literally giving specific tips on how to literally take less damage. This is KEY. MOVEMENT IS FOREVER. People think aim is everything, but what use is your aim, when even I don’t know where I’m going to be moving 😈
What good is your movement if the guy your playing has insane aim?
@@tylerblomker3633 I mean he went over it in the video, slow strafing targets are much easier to hit than crouch a+d spamming people. Same deal with jumping, it's a very obvious and predictable arc to track or pre aim. unless you a+d strafe mid air... like he mentioned in the video.. when you get to higher elo you try to get every little adv you can, even if its like -5% chance of getting hit
@@tylerblomker3633 Movement in this game is crazy, like if you learn how to abuse strafing to manipulate your hitbox you can be almost untouchable unless the other guy is on crack. Proper movement will mess with 99% of players.
@@isardprat7900 yeah it was a joke.
@@Qazwerty777 I was kidding but yeah I can tell the difference in movement big time from the lower ranks. I'm not super high level but I started bronze now I'm mid diamond on every role.
The king returns
for the seventh time lol
His Tracer was so good back the old days, before they nerfed her Bomb.
The king is diamond now 😂
imagine a full game where all 10 players are bouncing around like this bro
5000 hours on traver i think.
Hope you are fine and in a better place then years back, great to see you making Videos again
Literal SR donation coming from kabaji here now every tracer on planet earth are going to know this shit
The problem with giving Ana's nade a benefit only when used on herself (such as a self speed boost) is that she would then be punished for using it to save a teammate or offensively to help with a push, since she sacrifices her escape ability.
I will definitely apply these movements to my gaming thanks Cabbage!
1:55 bro, its literally like there is a Pharah in my room. crazy
Now I can be rank 1 champion Tetris player with this guide, thank you. Cabbage
I will be the T-Spin god
Actually been wondering what key I should rebind crouch to. Now I know! Thanks
What key did he rebind to? I missed that in the video
@@Pedro_eqw left alt key
Rejoice! King Cabbage returns and graces us with an inkling of his vast wisdom!
16:11 See this is why we have so many Winston mains
Good suff, especially about tracer pulse bomb left/right thing, I had no idea!
bro his reaction at 10:53 had me crying for 5 minutes
btw if you play it at 0.25 speed you'll find where that pulse bomb went
thank you so much cabbage i went from bronze 1 to bronze 3
Took me 7 minutes to realise you’re looking at a mirror of yourself
Crouch bound to Alt is big brain, never heard anyone say that before.
Blows my mind I didn't have to pay for this. I would have had to play so much more to get all of those infos. Thanks.
This information is Grand master info! Thank you!!
So how should you strafe into a soldier, sojourn, or even hanzo? I feel like if you ad crouch spam like you do they kinda aim at the middle, yes it works for all the hitscan heros that need to headshot but hanzo can just aim at the middle too and could at worst body shot you twice, sojourn can just left click in the middle and doesn't need to railgun, same for soldier
Strafing spam can be ineffective vs projectiles because you are technically making your hitbox larger as the projectiles are out there for a longer time
use a mix of short+med strafes
short strafes are countered by aiming at the middle, as you say, but medium strafes require some tracking, so if you can switch between the two, what happens is the opponent (at least from a pure mouse aiming perspective) has to do is start and stop moving their mouse. Obviously, they'll try to use good movement to counter your dodge pattern, but this is usually a pretty good one to start with.
next thing to keep in mind is that the counter to short/med strafe is if they take longer strafes to work themselves towards your sides, you need to be aware of them trying to do this. normally, what you want to do vs that is stop short/med strafing, and use a long anti-mirror strafe, sometimes with some backwards movement
how tf does this not have more views! incredible stuff legend is here
I got my right click as pulse bomb and shift as blink it works perfectly aswell if you can’t do his pulse bomb bind or right click as blink
Me watching the start of the video without audio thinking that I should spam A+D, crouch and jump a lot and then went to do it in the game.
WOW the pulsebomb coming from the right hand is gamechanging, how did I not know that?!
thank you for the tips cabbage
HOLY SHIT KABBAG NEW UPLOAD LETS GO
These are absolutely terrific tips, but my question is this: how do you improve your ability to aim while doing all of this movement? You talked a bit about the tradeoff between weak/linear movement and aiming accurately or strong/unpredictable movement and aiming less consistently, but how do you get better at aiming more consistently while keeping good movement? What is the best way to train or practice this?
Biggest thing with movement is knowing when to prioritize movement over accuracy, this is usually the case when the opponent you are facing against has higher damage singular shots while youre offering higher rate of fire, so soldiers for example can freely move like madmen while dueling widows, ashe, cass etc.
However I think the most important thing to learn is to learn to aim against specific heroes instead, learn to change your movement according to their rate of fire, changing direction every time ashe or cass have their shot up basically, learn to utilize and abuse that downtime in their dps. For example if youre cass against soldier theres no point moving like he does in this video w the fast ad crouch spam because you need to prioritize accuracy since soldier can just spray and pray bodyshots while you need headshots.
The thing with unpredictable movement is that your aim also becomes unpredictable because even you cant control and acknowledge all the inputs, so lets say youre ashe versus ashe you want to shoot on your turn, between their shots.
@@gial27 that's good advice, I'll keep it in mind, thank you :)
ill try to implement it but i feel a little overwhelmed xD
thank u for the knowledge though
the hidden scrolls of power have been unleashed!!
workshop code?
5R6CQ
5R6CQ
that movement speed is nuts how fast are your fingers moving for such A+D+ crouch then add tracking hurts the brain
Yo for Cassidy, isn't it easy to hit you on fast A+D crouch spam if they're just body shotting? They could just leave their crosshair in one place on your chest and even get some headshots in?
Make one of your lateral strafes longer than the other so that they aren't the same distance, that will force them to not leave their cross hair in one place.
Missig u kabaji.
come back :)
Still aren't used to this technique, I think l am doing it wrong, that applies to most things I do. Instead of Alt, l thought of using mouse 5, one of the buttons either the forward or back button on the left side of the mouse. Was it good? l do feel it is faster with my thumb
mr cabbage do u accidentally alt-tab when using alt as crouch?, i tried it for a bit and kept alt tabbing when i would check ult charges!
i had the same problem until i switched my scoreboard from Tab to Caps Lock 👍
Hey i recently came back to overwatch and i use to be a master soldier main, now the ranks made me g4 but i climbed to diamond for the moment, i dont have a lot of time for playing so i watch pro stuff and imitate it to learn so can you make a soldier ow2 guide or soldier gameplay analysis on every map or commentary i would love to see that, kabaji guy
I think you should watch kragie for 76 tips, he’s just as qualified as kabaji
man just thx genuinely
What keybind do you use to crouch for tracer/soldier/soj?
A bit late to the party but is there a proper way to practice good movement and break bad habits? At least in the way that it is native to an Overwatch veteran.
I wish I could spam crouch or change directions that fast on console. Sure I can use paddles, but I can’t do it nearly as fast and I can’t use the joysticks as well for aiming
GOAT tracer is back
5:38 mouse button 4, 5
18:17 I did that once against a widow when fading to her to kill her
But unlucky for me she had a mercy come to her when she killed me she tbagged me and said ? In chat
I literally had to explain I wasn't tbagging she gave 0 fucks and when the game finishes bitch flames me
i find it a little funny that kabaji recorded this at 6am, gremlin life ftw
What's the workshop code for this?
5R6CQ
It's the pinned comment
If I didn't already know Kabaji was a Tracer main, and I met him, I'd immediately peg him as a Tracer main
I bet you'd love to peg Kabaji
Bro I didn’t know about pulsebomb blinks 😭😭
what map is this on so I can see how I move?
Oh
My
God
He
Is
Back
Is that dafran on the other side?
Love you my doggy
😂😂
Meanwhile me in ps5 💀
M2 for Pulse bomb and Blink on Shift.
Blink on shift will make your finger rip
putting crouch on alt is agame changer. I have been palying with in on q for years and its definitely hindered my movement. Gonna take a while to get used to it but give it a few weeks and I'll have the aids adad crouch movement down haha
can somebody explain y making urself a smaller hit box is bad against the spread of tracer, i dont understand?
I've been A+D crouching since OW1 beta and I'm still plat 😐
Actually calling him cassidy
i’m confused when i fight a dps like soldier or sombra (or any hitscan with a full auto gun how should i move? a/d spam n crouch or what
I asked the same question, I've watched surefour's movement guide and depending on what you play, if you have a full auto gun you can do a bit longer strafes like he said on tracer, or if you play a more lethal character like cree hanzo ashe etc you need to move in a way that's easy for you to hit shots while not being too easy to track, because it's more important for you to hit your shots than dodge the shots.
there is no one pattern of movement which is good vs any hero. the basic principle of movement is to do what they aren't expecting. this can mean metronome strafes for half a second then an awkwardly long strafe. both movements by themselves are shit but if you time them right you can completely short circuit their ability to aim. the best example of this is the wall lick, where you simply run into a wall as if you've dc'd. people usually can't handle that and will aim to the side waiting for you to counterstrafe. it might sound stupid but this stuff works against OWL players in 1v1s when they're just focused on mechanics, works even better in comp.
the real secret to good movement is to do a lot of 1v1s and try stuff and see what works, with a mind to juke and avoid whatever they are trying to do.
Nice tutorial lol, out of nowhere, sharing your knowledge
What about lucio strafing
I think alt crounch spamming is easier then ctrl crouch spamming but I got killed so many times while trying to press tab while being on crouch and it was alt+tab amd I'm literally afk for a second (hdd) so when Im sneaking around I use ctrl and when I'm crouch spamming I prefer alt (I wish you could change alt tab bind to something else pleaseseaseaesa)
weird idea, you could try swapping jump and crouch (space and ctrl) since jumping is a death sentence against good players anyway. That way, you can abuse crouch spam more easily and train your own brain to prioritize crouch spam over jumping.
I feel like I can’t do those crazy movements on console 🥺
What game is this? Couldn't tell from the title 🤣
How does one crouch easily without over stretching your pinkie?
use caps lock, or lt alt as crouch bind, ez
@@draxielinhangie245 ohh thank you! Im still learning pc from switching away from console lol
wait, if their hitbox is bigger your spread goes nowhere? Wouldn't it be the opposite? My bronze brain does not compute
My favorite movement is AADAA DDADD
wtf man. I was hard stuck for so ling. if I knew these things when this game mattered I could have applied for ameture teams.
people jump against headshot like a widowmaker
im not getting how you a d crouching fast
Crouch bound on alt
Is this possible on controllet
Yes just change jump and crouch to buttons so you don't need to take your thumb off right stick. My jump is Lb and my crouch is left stick
@@mrgiraffe1577 I appreciate it
Dude you need to play only solder and tracer and new hero soldjron and Wirdo pls so u can go rank 1 again
Does anyone have the workshop code ?
5R6CQ
Makes me sad he doesnt say McCree ):
bang….bang..bang
It hurts when I pee
Good vídeo dafran y love you
anyone here kinda understands the ranked system? my avg dmg is 13.000 (with a lot of 4 man ults blabla) and yesterday i finished my rankings with 7 wins 3 losses. i got ranked silver 1. im not complaining cuz i know im a between plat and dia normally but how's that possible? LOL
They did soft rank reset for everyone
Try pulsebomb on extra mouse button. Really helps
hi! big fan❤
stop liking the video we gotta keep it secret
I need to check that size to make sure you're telling the truth, bro. Drop the pics.
The real diamond rank 1 world.
Jk, I love you
this guy sounds smack like xqc
Actual protip for easy wins: Use turkish VPN for bot lobbies. 😎
it s always weird when i hear Cassidy ... it s Mcree man XD
"how are you supposed to hit this" while hitting 60% of shots 🤔
Only because it's mirrored?
My English is not the best but it's ok but when someone speaks so fast and suddenly stops in the middle of a sentence and starts with a new topic...I don't know but I feel handicapped right now because I couldn't understand 50% of the video I feel just handicapped and i'm going to shit in my face because of the video now. Thank you very much for the tutorial and see more videos from you soon.
Orr, I just dont play dps.
Hey kabaji, tracer actually does not throw her bomb from the right hand. Every single projectile/hitscan goes right from the center of the camera where the crosshair placed. U can clearly see it when you place crosshair on some kind of wall or corner and try to shoot as pharah or even use tracer bomb. Trail can go through wall, but the projectile itself goes right where you placed your crosshair
Ily
Cree que Jesucristo murió en la cruz por tus pecados y resucitó de entre los muertos tres días después y arrepiéntete del pecado. El juicio está llegando a este mundo. También te arrepientes constantemente. Jesús llegará pronto. En cualquier momento puedes morir y si no tienes razón con Cristo, te irías al infierno. Si murieras ahora mismo, ¿te irías al cielo o al infierno?
Hiii
Alo
you should delete this video to make it special just for few :D