hardness or softness is related to the size of the light source and the subject, a bigger source than the subject created softer light. The difusser helps with the highlights and make the light less specular.
This is awesome!!! I love the light and the way it hits the subject. I'm currently looking into a large parabolic umbrella for my shoots. So this definitely helped a great deal.
the plate you place before the flash tube is called "deflector" by Elinchrom. These deflector exist as frosted light transmitting or or as a mirror bouncing the light back in silver or gold finish.
I loved the quality of light BOTH put out. I can take either one, honestly. The softbox edges the umbrella out by a little bit because of its versatility and the different qualities of light you can get. But only by a hair. Great vid.
Thanks for this comparison and explanation. I have 95 octa and 120 octa, front firing and I do get soft results but it can still get hot spots on skin, as the light is almost even but perhaps still centre biased even with double diffusion. The thing I noticed and liked about the deep parabolic you used was that the light was not centre biased, the stronger light was on the edges, which is what seems to soften those shadows so much and leaves no hot centre. I noticed you kept the standard reflector dish on with the umbrella, which caused a central hot spot or at least made for a relatively small light source, and so making it more contrasty. I wonder if you could have removed the reflector for more even spread inside the umbrella, when using the diffuser. I believe this would closer match an octabox, but perhaps still not as sleek as the parabolic. Would it cause hot spill on the outer edge? That might even match the parabolic.
I have a studio about 10 feet tall. The issue becomes when you want to do something like clamshell lighting or Rembrandt lighting where you place the light above the subject. The deeper boxes plus the light coming out the box can be a problem. If it was me I would measure the space and consider the height of your model before committing to this modifier.
How do you make the floor and wall with no transition between them. I like the look. Excellent use of the light. I have a couple huge lights and love them much more than my small lights. I like the idea of just diffusing the bare bulb to help reduce the hot spots.
th-cam.com/video/QDYifetF7ss/w-d-xo.html It's a cyclorama. I wouldn't recommend any less than a 5' radius for serious work. It make the infinity effect so much easier to light than the other common size of 3' radius.
I purchased a 48" Glow EZLock Parabolic and a 84" octabox right before covid and I have not used either one. Your enthusiasm has inspired me gear up to use my big soft boxes. You remind me of Gavin Huey, you both show lots of enthusiasm. Thanks for the video. I will watch your light metering video as well. I see you use the R5, have you tried shooting wireless tethered? I was playing with that with DPP. I seemed pretty snappy. I don't know how long the battery lasts but I have several so it should not be an issue. I like the idea of no wires hanging off the camera.
These large modifiers are amazing, but how do you keep this quality of light when shooting on-site corporates with glasses? Many real people wear glasses, only models never wear glasses. This is my constant battle so I am forced to use a 65 parabolic or a stripbox, or ceiling bounce, to keep the reflections out of the glasses (some corrective glasses reflect very little, and some reflect everything!). I have found it impossible to avoid reflections with my 95 or 120, with restricted office spaces. The quality of the end lighting always seems a compromise as I have to turn the subject away from the large light source and use a smaller modifier as key light. Any advice or existing tutorial that can help? Thanks again.
Can we use the parabolic one for baby photography. I do setups and themes also .. would like to know what you suggest.. i want to achieve natural light impact
Hey Mark, great Tutorial and I was amazed how the sample shot's were so clear at 1080P... I would love to have seen this in 4K so as the highlight's you were talking about in the hair was even clearer.
IMHO, the best light modifier for portraits is the Elinchrom Octalight. That said, for product stuff the (much cheaper) 125 cm deep parabolic umbrella in silver is excellent as well. Thanks for the video.
@@daniel2309 at what power level? If you are at 1/16 power with a 400.... an ad200 at 1/8 would be the same, right? That AD200 is an amazing portable light
Great tutorial as always Mike ! Was wondering where your focus is on shots for full body ? I notice you squat down slightly and aim the camera kind of midway on the model . Beautiful shots by the way .
What are the stands you're using? particularly I want that mobile laptop stand (I know it's tethertools for the top but I cant find the short stand with casters)
I feel that by the time you double diffuse one of these deep para soft boxes they are producing light that is minimally different than a large umbrella with diffusion (but at a MUCH higher cost and more time to set up in the studio...). I do love my deep para softboxes- but with either one or no (except for the central disc to prevent the hot spot) diffusion - they create a distinctly directional and punchier light - that is where they really stand out from a large umbrella with diffusion...
I’m almost positive the pics shown were edited. It’s always cool when these vids show the shots out of camera so folks don’t become discouraged thinking the shots shown here were unedited and flawless out of camera, then comparing their shots out of camera. Feel me? 😎
The biggest problem with flat front Profoto is the lack of omnidirectional light spread in the octa. And their Glass Dome doesn't do squat. I've had 3 B1's for 5 years. I just deal with that inadequacy all the time. I think their octas are decent, just a PITA to assemble/disassemble. And yes, great video with beautiful lighting examples. Large studios with cycs are so nice to work in.
The ‘parabolic’ nature of the litemotif and any other similar shaped reflector is only at best relevant if there are no diffusers employed. A parabola has a “focus” if a ( strictly speaking) point light source is placed at the focus then the light rays emerging will be parallel, like direct sunlight. Clearly the light source for the Litemotif, and similar designs is not really anywhere near the focus utilising very little ‘in the way of ‘parabolic’ properties. Once diffusers, especially a one covering the entire front of the reflector is fitted, then the front surface of the light is the source and it matters little what shape is behind.
litemotiv's can use an accessory speedring for internal inverted flash mount what places the flash tube at the focus point. Even my older 150cm deep indirect Rotalux Octabox is delivered with both mounts.
Use the big litemotiv. Seriously blows away the 120. I know, I have both. The Litemotiv's are absolutely gorgeous. And if you want better. Use a real focusable parabolic. Briese, Bronocolor, and now the new Godox.
Yet another good review Mark but to me this is not a true Parabolica i would class this more of a rice bowl A true Parabolica would be that you have a center rod that has a light source attached to the end that you can move in or out . Plus they are stupid crazy price The shoot into reflector would be my choice every time
Another video in which we see a person who does not understand what he is talking about. Even in the reflections in the eyes of the model, 19:06 you can clearly see how the umbrella reflector limits the filling of the umbrella with light. As a result, the umbrella becomes half the size. Terrific unprofessional "teacher".
Things not mentioned in the video that are useful for beginners. Never buy a zoom as your first lens. Buy a zoom only if your years deep into photography. Buy umbrellas first. They’re cheap, awesome and most importantly easy to take to location shoots. Parabolics are fine for studio but are an unnecessary pain in the ass for location shooting
also, what is the use of a "parabolic" softbox if you cant focus the light? That "trick" 1. with both diffusers, 2. with inner diffuser, and 3. without diffusers - you can do with regular (non parabolic) softboxes.
One of my favorite instructors. Hope to see another episode from him in the future. Thank you Mark and Adorma for the video.
I am glad this pop up again. Great work by Photographer, team, and Adorama. Will check this channel more often.
I like the endless background of the studio, it's my dream to have it in this size.
Cycs are the best I have to admit
Always a pleasure to hear Mark teach about photography.
Sir Mark Wallace is a legend 🫡
hardness or softness is related to the size of the light source and the subject, a bigger source than the subject created softer light. The difusser helps with the highlights and make the light less specular.
This would be great also for a jewelry or luggage model for the holidays and after. Great work on the video!!
This was amazing. Seriously. I’ve had this for a year and had no idea I could do all of this with my parabolic lol
Hello from Tampa, Florida! Great tutorial, model, and information! Be well and stay safe.
Thank you for my morning watch ,stay safe
Hope to see another video from Mark or others next month. Great job as always with the video.
Thanks Joseph, my new videos are now on my personal channel.
th-cam.com/channels/FrmZQhRSVgnCreE0mM2QQg.html
The Legendary MW still dropping gems!!!! Good video.
The model had one look but she owned it. And Mark also owned his part.
This is awesome!!! I love the light and the way it hits the subject. I'm currently looking into a large parabolic umbrella for my shoots. So this definitely helped a great deal.
Absolutely fabulous well executed, well designed, just perfect you deserve more credit really
the plate you place before the flash tube is called "deflector" by Elinchrom.
These deflector exist as frosted light transmitting or or as a mirror bouncing the light back in silver or gold finish.
Thanks Mark Wallace, excellent video as always 😀
I love the way you teach Mark! Thank you so much!
I loved the quality of light BOTH put out. I can take either one, honestly. The softbox edges the umbrella out by a little bit because of its versatility and the different qualities of light you can get. But only by a hair. Great vid.
Great video Mark.
I would love to have a cyc/cove like that. No more rippled paper backgrounds :)
Nice to see again Mark for a Nice tuto ( from france audience)
thank you Mister, very clear to me
Thanks for this comparison and explanation. I have 95 octa and 120 octa, front firing and I do get soft results but it can still get hot spots on skin, as the light is almost even but perhaps still centre biased even with double diffusion. The thing I noticed and liked about the deep parabolic you used was that the light was not centre biased, the stronger light was on the edges, which is what seems to soften those shadows so much and leaves no hot centre. I noticed you kept the standard reflector dish on with the umbrella, which caused a central hot spot or at least made for a relatively small light source, and so making it more contrasty. I wonder if you could have removed the reflector for more even spread inside the umbrella, when using the diffuser. I believe this would closer match an octabox, but perhaps still not as sleek as the parabolic. Would it cause hot spill on the outer edge? That might even match the parabolic.
Awesome video Mark! Would you recommend this for a smaller indoor space or overkill?
I have a studio about 10 feet tall. The issue becomes when you want to do something like clamshell lighting or Rembrandt lighting where you place the light above the subject. The deeper boxes plus the light coming out the box can be a problem. If it was me I would measure the space and consider the height of your model before committing to this modifier.
@@sburgos9621 Mark might as well say cut her legs down . What a useless reply
How do you make the floor and wall with no transition between them. I like the look. Excellent use of the light. I have a couple huge lights and love them much more than my small lights. I like the idea of just diffusing the bare bulb to help reduce the hot spots.
th-cam.com/video/QDYifetF7ss/w-d-xo.html It's a cyclorama. I wouldn't recommend any less than a 5' radius for serious work. It make the infinity effect so much easier to light than the other common size of 3' radius.
Thank you for this video, it was very informative and easy to watch!
I purchased a 48" Glow EZLock Parabolic and a 84" octabox right before covid and I have not used either one. Your enthusiasm has inspired me gear up to use my big soft boxes. You remind me of Gavin Huey, you both show lots of enthusiasm. Thanks for the video. I will watch your light metering video as well. I see you use the R5, have you tried shooting wireless tethered? I was playing with that with DPP. I seemed pretty snappy. I don't know how long the battery lasts but I have several so it should not be an issue. I like the idea of no wires hanging off the camera.
I live by that 48 Glow!
Great explanation... Would you suggest this diffusor for a steady light ? I'm shooting video...
Excellent as usual
These large modifiers are amazing, but how do you keep this quality of light when shooting on-site corporates with glasses? Many real people wear glasses, only models never wear glasses. This is my constant battle so I am forced to use a 65 parabolic or a stripbox, or ceiling bounce, to keep the reflections out of the glasses (some corrective glasses reflect very little, and some reflect everything!). I have found it impossible to avoid reflections with my 95 or 120, with restricted office spaces. The quality of the end lighting always seems a compromise as I have to turn the subject away from the large light source and use a smaller modifier as key light. Any advice or existing tutorial that can help? Thanks again.
Thank you so much , i learned a lot from it!
Can we use the parabolic one for baby photography. I do setups and themes also .. would like to know what you suggest.. i want to achieve natural light impact
Hey Mark, great Tutorial and I was amazed how the sample shot's were so clear at 1080P... I would love to have seen this in 4K so as the highlight's you were talking about in the hair was even clearer.
Ok, so when I click on the link for the 120mm Parabolic Octa Softbox, it says this item is no longer available.
IMHO, the best light modifier for portraits is the Elinchrom Octalight. That said, for product stuff the (much cheaper) 125 cm deep parabolic umbrella in silver is excellent as well. Thanks for the video.
Great video, Mark. Thank you!
Any views on using a grid on the key light ?
Can the elinchrom be used with Bowen’s mount and is this still available. Also who makes the umbrella and what model.
Thanks great videos
Great VIdeo!!
Another great video. Is a Godox AD200 Pro powerful enough to be used with the Deep Silver umbrella for a full-body shot?
AD200 even with bare bulb - not really! use at least flash head with 400W/s or more (or 2x AD200)
@@daniel2309 at what power level? If you are at 1/16 power with a 400.... an ad200 at 1/8 would be the same, right? That AD200 is an amazing portable light
Great tutorial as always Mike ! Was wondering where your focus is on shots for full body ? I notice you squat down slightly and aim the camera kind of midway on the model . Beautiful shots by the way .
You shoot for the eyes
so amazing
Another great video Mark, I have to ask, did you build that seamless backdrop/floor? I want to do this when I get my studio next year
Which elinchrom model is they. I thought they only have 39 deep. And 53’ is the regular one. You mentioned it’s 120cm. Can’t find one.
What are the stands you're using? particularly I want that mobile laptop stand (I know it's tethertools for the top but I cant find the short stand with casters)
Which produces more light shoot through umbrella or reflective umbrella or a softbox?
You lose less light with a reflective umbrella
What was the watt pwer to your strobe?
I feel that by the time you double diffuse one of these deep para soft boxes they are producing light that is minimally different than a large umbrella with diffusion (but at a MUCH higher cost and more time to set up in the studio...). I do love my deep para softboxes- but with either one or no (except for the central disc to prevent the hot spot) diffusion - they create a distinctly directional and punchier light - that is where they really stand out from a large umbrella with diffusion...
Hello Adorama!
Nice video but are those modifiers actually ‘Parabolic’? I think not.
If I were Quin, I don't think that I'd be thrilled with these results.
Good stuff
great video than q mark wallace sir
Great for a campaign for clothes or jewelry.
I’m using the EoS R but I’ve just noticed the TTL exposure lock isn’t available on this firmware. Ahhh canon!! Why? 😪😪😩😩
You're awesome
I’m almost positive the pics shown were edited. It’s always cool when these vids show the shots out of camera so folks don’t become discouraged thinking the shots shown here were unedited and flawless out of camera, then comparing their shots out of camera. Feel me? 😎
Great video. Elinchrom makes phenomenon softboxes. I wish Profoto would produce better softboxes… makes me regret ever switching to Profoto.
The biggest problem with flat front Profoto is the lack of omnidirectional light spread in the octa. And their Glass Dome doesn't do squat. I've had 3 B1's for 5 years. I just deal with that inadequacy all the time. I think their octas are decent, just a PITA to assemble/disassemble.
And yes, great video with beautiful lighting examples. Large studios with cycs are so nice to work in.
Can u tell me the backdrop details plz.?
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Could you please name the lightstand ????
Otherwise. Great video
Nice video from today but the Elinchrom 120cm is NO LONGER AVAILABLE...
I think bigger ones were used to simulate light from the sun in moon/mars landing movies.
You know... this one could work also...
Light = light
The ‘parabolic’ nature of the litemotif and any other similar shaped reflector is only at best relevant if there are no diffusers employed. A parabola has a “focus” if a ( strictly speaking) point light source is placed at the focus then the light rays emerging will be parallel, like direct sunlight. Clearly the light source for the Litemotif, and similar designs is not really anywhere near the focus utilising very little ‘in the way of ‘parabolic’ properties.
Once diffusers, especially a one covering the entire front of the reflector is fitted, then the front surface of the light is the source and it matters little what shape is behind.
litemotiv's can use an accessory speedring for internal inverted flash mount what places the flash tube at the focus point.
Even my older 150cm deep indirect Rotalux Octabox is delivered with both mounts.
Use the big litemotiv. Seriously blows away the 120. I know, I have both. The Litemotiv's are absolutely gorgeous.
And if you want better. Use a real focusable parabolic. Briese, Bronocolor, and now the new Godox.
Well, not everyone has that budget, my friend lol. We use the large modifiers we can afford.
What gives? This video just came out and that Litemotive softbox is already no longer available 😭
Yet another good review Mark but to me this is not a true Parabolica i would class this more of a rice bowl A true Parabolica would be that you have a center rod that has a light source attached to the end that you can move in or out . Plus they are stupid crazy price The shoot into reflector would be my choice every time
Another video in which we see a person who does not understand what he is talking about. Even in the reflections in the eyes of the model, 19:06 you can clearly see how the umbrella reflector limits the filling of the umbrella with light. As a result, the umbrella becomes half the size. Terrific unprofessional "teacher".
Why wouldn't Adorama make a video using Glow modifiers?
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fun game to try: take a vodka shot every time he says "directional"
15:03 Strong harder light that's really punchy? Not even close. Now a hardbox, now THAT's some strong harder light that's really punchy.
Things not mentioned in the video that are useful for beginners. Never buy a zoom as your first lens. Buy a zoom only if your years deep into photography. Buy umbrellas first. They’re cheap, awesome and most importantly easy to take to location shoots. Parabolics are fine for studio but are an unnecessary pain in the ass for location shooting
That room is seriously tripping me out.. Where does it end? Where does it begin? It's like the hyperbolic time chamber from dragon ball z.
Your Canon RF 24-105mm f/4 looks like 70-200
Heck Mark, I thought you were going BIG, like a 7 ft. umbrella :{)
If it has more than 8(!) rods it‘s not an octa box.
All good, but it's not an octobox.
I agree, while Mark calls it an octabox, elinchrom calls it an Octa soft box….. trying to figure out where the “Octa” comes in on the name.
….they’re NOT parabolic either but hey, it’s TH-cam.
also, what is the use of a "parabolic" softbox if you cant focus the light? That "trick" 1. with both diffusers, 2. with inner diffuser, and 3. without diffusers - you can do with regular (non parabolic) softboxes.
Not an octobox :D
Nice, but not accurate. Too much reflection from the surroundings, hence not really seeing the softbox on its own.
Zoom in my subject? Zoom ? Wtf. Zoom in a studio????
Just my op. None of it looks very flattering. Yes, you are missing the fill reflector,scoop, or strip light.