The robin trip thing is most likely because they gave him trip immunity during the thoron casting animation to avoid animation bugs, but due to some coding error the trip immunity doesn't have an end flag
More than likely yes, this. Probably just made a type on the end flag, which happens sometimes, and since the code cant recognize the end flag cuz of the typo, it just doesnt happen. Youd be surprised how often this happens even in the most polished of games lol
@@pyromaniac000000 Could also be that the move ends before the end flag is activated, somehow. It's something you see often with moves that have different framedata on the ground and in the air -- landing/slipping off an edge mid-attack can cause some wonky effects, such as causing sword trials to linger or invincibility frames to last the entire move, since it's possible to "skip" these triggers given that they happen at different times whether you're on the ground or in the air. Thoron was made a lot faster in smash ultimate, so maybe they sped it up too much and thus it never reaches the part of the animation that disables the anti-trip effect?
I don't have any experience with how Smash works internally, but perhaps Thoron uses a special state similar to armour on a lot of moves to allow it to finish and not be interrupted by tripping, and they forgot to have Robin exit that state afterwards. So once activated, they're trip-proof until they respawn, which resets all states. Just speculating. I could legitimately see that effecting the outcome of a pro match some time.
Literally what I was thinking as well, only way to find out is to see if you can trip robin out of Thoron and then test to see if you can interrupt other moves by tripping opponents
Pac-Man's trampolines used in his up B are a reference to the arcade game Mappy by Namco. The trampolines start out as green when they haven't been used, and then become blue, yellow, red, and then break just as in Smash. However, I'm not sure why the trampoline became green after getting damaged in the trailer, as this would signify that it becomes 'unused' which doesn't make sense. Also, I tested Robin's state of 'untrippability' against an Inkay from a Pokeball, but unfortunately Inkay's trip is considered 'special' just like a banana peel, so Robin can't become immune to it.
It's possible they did it just so they could get the reference of it being green in there in general, but then changed their mind since fans would say it doesn't make sense.
Pretty sure that for Palutena, the dodging sound effect is supposed to be a reference to KI: Uprising, since Pit's is also taken straight from the game. So rather than have it be the "teleport" sound effect it's more just a reference, hence why it applies to the directional air-dodge despite her not disappearing.
A lot of Namco games have the 765 number reference in them, heck, Pac Man's final smash does it as well with the score for hitting consecutive enemies doubles the "score" he gets until reaching 8000 where it instead displays 7650.
I may be wrong, but in the pac man trailer, while its hard to tell, it looks like there are hit particle effects off screen when the water is interacting with samus, so that further supports the theory of pac mans water being a hitbox instead of a windbox during development before they changed their minds
For pacman's final smash animation, I didn't even notice they removed the pellets he eats D: We gotta get pacman a meal! I think the animation still works, like it can also be viewed as him just raising his arms up, looking up with his mouth open as he is enjoying the rush of energy, then smiling back at the camera to show he's ready to transform. Though, I will always see his final smash as him just eating the pellets.
The trip immunity is semi niche but in the Kazuya, DK, Kirby matchups specifically, it's pretty influential since if your opponent isn't aware the trip wont work, they can maybe be punished for it... Robin is slow and needs all he can get. DK, Kirby and Kazuya all make use of trip combos.
Hell in the Bayonetta series is Inferno, Heaven is Paradiso, and Earth is Purgatorio, or the world of Chaos. Most of her enemies actually come from Heaven as she's bound to killing angels every day, which is fun
I like Kirby being the starter character in WoL. Since he can get other fighter abilities, it can both encourage new players to try and fight new characters in order to see their ability, and helps them figure out which character they wanna play as once they find a copy ability they like.
Thanks for being one of the few creators who actually understands why the announcer voice lines are duplicated for characters with multiple genders (with those exceptions). Other creators are very confused and don't seem to realise there are other languages beside English.
Y’know how static electricity causes your hair to stand up? Yeah that’s essentially what’s happening to robin except it’s their entire body and especially their spine. (They are irradiated)
In the Chinese names for Byleth, the male name is 贝雷特 (bay-lay-tuh), and the female name is 贝雷丝 (bay-lay-sih). As far as I can tell, it’s for the same reasons you brought up for the Japanese versions (masculine vs feminine), but interestingly the male version is usually how they translate the name “Berrett.” I think this probably a coincidence. Also, bonus thing I noticed in one of your other videos that talked about the names, the Chinese name for Pac-Man is 吃豆人 (chur-doh-run), which literally means “eat bean man,” which I find really funny for some reason, haha.
Something cool that might have happened for either palu or bayo is they could have been voice acted since both characters are arguably the most talkative in the game
robin's announcer thing may be because he has two spanish names, in latin america they are called robin, while in spain they are called daraen (as far as i know), and with byleth even though the announcer calls them byleth, in japanese they are called "beretto" and "beresu" for the male and female respectively
Same with French, in France they call them Daraen but in Canadian French they the name Robin. But Rosalina is named "Harmonie" in France French but in Canadian French she keep the name "Rosalina" Unless Rosalina also has 2 announcer voice lines as well this theory is probably wrong
The reason why the battle against Duck Hunt in Pac-Man's Classic Mode route has no music is to simply replicate the original game, which had no music during actual gameplay.
Apparently Sakurai would call Pac-Man, "your company's character" during development. And apparently many people kept forgetting that he was technically their companies character and had to double take who he was talking about XD
we have no idea how smash works, but our best guess is they made thoron give you untrippable for some reason and forgot to have it take it away at some point?
If anyone have played Kazuya's Classic Mode, I feel like the Lucario never trips when getting hit by Stature Smash for some reason... Probably unrelated to the Robin thing but still weird
I suspect when making smash 4, they weren't yet certain if any languages would want 2 names for Robin, so they gave the placeholder as a safety. maybe they had even heard that it would be needed somewhere, but that localization team changed their mind about it later.
My guess on the World of Light survivor thing is: A) Kirby is a good beginner character and a starter, B) He was in SSB64, C) He's very family friendly by default, unlike the other 2, and D) Starting with just Palu or Bayo would feel wrong. Also happy belated birthday!
To clarify the wording at 12:51 re: "The Slip Effect". Pretty much every hitbox has an "effect" coded. In most cases it is just visual stuff like "flame" causes the fighter to be on fire, "coin" (on Super Jump Punch) causes coins to appear, "magic" (not to be confused with the "type" of the same name) causes sparkles, etc. However, some actually do things like "electric" causes more hitlag, "sleep" puts fighters to sleep, "flower" adds a flower to the character and does damage over time, and "slip" forces a trip (unless you have Trip Immunity spirits). Ruben (a prominent Smash researcher) says that Thoron seems to bypass the trip chance calculation; why it does that to begin with is a mystery. Also, that trivia was added within 12 hours of Archmage's tweet. It may be a bit difficult to make a full video in that time.
The way I see it, Robin uses Thoron to say no to drugs. Therefore, he avoids trippin'. I'll see myself out, but not before I say happy birthday to PKBeats!
I believe that the reason is the game is updating robin's state, (Spell Book) on the same frame, meaning his state cannot be overridden unless it's by force.
The next game should “balance” Robin by getting rid of the sword/tome “use” meter, the Levin Sword always being out, and making Robin always immune to tripping. In their original game, Robin’s in-game class models *_don’t have feet_* during combat. :3
Dang, happy birthday and congratulations on 22! It’s amazing that you’ve been able to find such success doing something you really seem to enjoy at this age! I turned 22 this past summer, and it’s really inspiring to hear that we’re the same age, when so many TH-camrs I’m familiar with are a fair bit older. Gives me hope. Anywho, enjoy the birthday, and here’s to a fantastic year!
Personally, I think it woulda been really funny to see Bayo and Kirby working together in the beginning cutscene. I'm a big fan of conflicting attitudes in partners.
Bayonetta has slain countless amounts of angels (her main enemies) and demons (something went wrong with Bayonetta's relationship with demons in Bayonetta 2). She even has killed her world's God (Jubileus) and defeated the god of chaos (Aesir). It was pretty obvious because they could connect Galeem with Jubileus for Bayonetta and Dharkon with Hades for Palutena. This is also the reason why Pit and Dark Pit were shown in her original reveal trailer because she actively hunts for angels to feed her demons, be a sassy sadist, and acquire golden halos.
Bayonetta lore: The angels Bayonetta fights have their home known as Paradiso (or Heaven). Demons come from Inferno (or Hell, also Rodin's bar is the Gates of Hell). Angels and demons reside in a parallel plane of existence called Purgatorio, and Bayonetta can freely travel there to fight them, otherwise they're invisible except with special lenses (that Bayonetta uses) and intangible except if you were to strike with an object (physical objects will work fine, mainly in the first game where you protect Young Cereza and Bayo can't punch the enemies). Some people thought maybe Bayo could survive Galeem's attack in Purgatorio, but she's not actually travelling anywhere different, it's a parallel plane where Galeem probably already touches.
For the survivor of Galeem, they chose Kirby because he is the ultimate beginner character, and they wanted to prepare for new players who start with WoL. Yes, he has faced and defeated multiple universe ending threats like Galeem, but I'd like to make it clear as a Kirby fan that Kirby has *never* flied faster than the speed of light before. In fact, he doesn't actually ride the Warpstar that often either. It makes sense that Kirby could defeat Galeem, but it doesn't actually line up with the lore for him to *flee* Galeem. Edit: Actually, I think the Warpstar may indeed have the ability to travel faster than the speed of light, so Kirby's escape could indeed be canon.
@@shinyeeveelution789 I've just gone in search of an answer and the Wiki appears to provide an interesting theory. If you pay attention in-game when Kirby is riding a warpstar, he is often seen flying into the background before he disappears in a sparkle of stars. The Wiki suggests that this could actually be Kirby teleporting to the next area, instead of simply being a basic animation. Upon that, with reflection on the literal name of the Warpstar, it would make sense that it could travel at 'WARPSPEED'; ie, fast enough to travel through dimensions. In this case, I think I can safely recede my argument. The Warpstar must have had the ability to travel through spacetime the entire time and I just never payed enough attention to notice. Thanks!!!
The reason why palu and bayo would be able to escape galeem is because they could escape to alternate universes and stuff,this is also why kirby's warp star was able to escape too since Its so fast that warp space and time or something like that,the warp star is strange
I did always find it weird that Bayonetta didn't survive considering she can move faster than light, slow time to a crawl, go to other dimensions, & travel through space.
Thoron being kinda glitchy anyways (see the effects of time on thoron and how they had to remove kill screen from thoron because the move wouldn't work) I'd say they put a flag to avoid robin getting tripped during thoron but forgot to remove that flag once thoron has been launched/interrupted ?
I wonder if Robin just naturally can't be tripped during that move, and the game doesn't recognize when to stop that state (this is just a guess, I have no knowledge whatsoever that could help find the actual reason)
Dude this is amaizing! We both share birthdays! We might even we lost twins!! (Ok no, but really. Hope you too had an amazing birthday and take care of those allergies! ^^)
I think Kirby IS the most fitting character, he's killed many gods/extremely powerful beings as well. Queen sectonia: Eats not 1, but FIVE Hyper fruit (Where 1 makes Kirby super-powered) and Kirby does it with 0. Dark nebula: The lord of hell. Dark mind: Ruler of a dimension. Fecto Elfilis: Literally called the Ultimate Life Form.
I know you are focused on wiki stuff at the moment, but hear me out for a useless fact submission. When Fox beats Falco in a 1v1, Fox actually has a unique line for his victory screen. I haven't tested this with wolf, nor have I tested with more than two players. But yeah, Fox gets a unique victory screen line if he beats Falco.
Kirby probably survived because he is both a god and has killed gods. Not only that, but out of everyone on the smash roster, if he had me of his copy abilities from his games they’d be toast. (Fire pun included)
Super late and not sure if this was posted before, but just a neat thing about the Bayonetta dimension hop thing she can do, heaven is Paradiso, Purgatorio is the kinda middle ground where angels and witches can interact on earth without hurting normal people unless they damage the surroundings, and hell is Inferno.
Ayyyy Happy bday PKB! This series has been delightful. It’s fantastic to have someone bringing in so much in depth knowledge on Smash to a the wider community. I’ve loved surprising friends in matches with obscure facts
Palutena and Bayonetta surviving may be due to them being the goddess of Light and the Umbra Witch respectively, and that they would survive Galeem and Dharkon's attacks
Could require more testing but If Thoron makes Robin change to a state of seudo-airbone and it doesnt finish (you can see how his air moves changes doing the move) and that explain why normal tripping does not work
Random fact: byleth’s bow when it is not fully charged is a projectile like a arrow but it’s full charged it is like energy so ness’s psi shield can absorbe it
When it comes to Robin, I think an anti-tripping effect was added to the move, and the devs just forgot to have that effect removed at the end of the animation. Also, happy birthday!
Actually in the french version of the game, robin name is "Daraen" for his male alt. For some reason, the french version of the game is not the same as the US version with the language changed.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 22 means you're born in 2000 which is funny Thanks for making your content it's always fun to chill and learn about new things about a game i love
I'm pretty sure Pac-Man's jab clanking with Hydrant's water is accurate considering before patch 9.0.0, jabs could clank with other moves, which was removed in patch 9.0.0 Idk if this was also the case for windboxes, and it's hard to test without reverting back to before 9.0.0, so my best guess is that was the case
I see Robin is taking Chrom's advice, "There are better places to take a nap than on the ground you know." to a whole new level
Veggies aprove
OMFG THAT IS BRILLIANT LOL
Robin can't get tipped on the scales anymore :(
LOLLLL THAT'S SO GOOD
Chrom is the most memetic FE Lord and for that I love him lmao
The robin trip thing is most likely because they gave him trip immunity during the thoron casting animation to avoid animation bugs, but due to some coding error the trip immunity doesn't have an end flag
Guess that makes sense.
why would a second thoron in the stock reset it then? is it just an on off flag type of thing?
@@RosalinaSama I would assume that it doesn't actually set start/end just changes the state to whichever one it isn't
More than likely yes, this. Probably just made a type on the end flag, which happens sometimes, and since the code cant recognize the end flag cuz of the typo, it just doesnt happen. Youd be surprised how often this happens even in the most polished of games lol
@@pyromaniac000000 Could also be that the move ends before the end flag is activated, somehow. It's something you see often with moves that have different framedata on the ground and in the air -- landing/slipping off an edge mid-attack can cause some wonky effects, such as causing sword trials to linger or invincibility frames to last the entire move, since it's possible to "skip" these triggers given that they happen at different times whether you're on the ground or in the air.
Thoron was made a lot faster in smash ultimate, so maybe they sped it up too much and thus it never reaches the part of the animation that disables the anti-trip effect?
Pacman uses the number 765 fairly frequently, so I think his forward air doing that exact amount was intentional
It helps that the game was actually made by Namco
@@scarffoxandfriends9401 And the move had its damage actually buffed from smash 4.
Finally me and the two other Robin mains might be remembered for something.
Why would u do that to yourself
I’m one of the two other robin mains. Nobi is the other one
Make that three
me four!
Time to tip the scales!
This is the most attention Robin’s ever had
:(
Meanwhile Jr is still rotting in being forgotten
We take any W we can get
Awakening fans unite!if Owain was a fighter we could get missltetainn
This is the most attention who had?????
I don't have any experience with how Smash works internally, but perhaps Thoron uses a special state similar to armour on a lot of moves to allow it to finish and not be interrupted by tripping, and they forgot to have Robin exit that state afterwards. So once activated, they're trip-proof until they respawn, which resets all states.
Just speculating. I could legitimately see that effecting the outcome of a pro match some time.
Literally what I was thinking as well, only way to find out is to see if you can trip robin out of Thoron and then test to see if you can interrupt other moves by tripping opponents
Does this work the same for Kirby? Now I'm curious
@@Ghostlyslime watch the video lol, he specifically tested this
Pac-Man's trampolines used in his up B are a reference to the arcade game Mappy by Namco. The trampolines start out as green when they haven't been used, and then become blue, yellow, red, and then break just as in Smash. However, I'm not sure why the trampoline became green after getting damaged in the trailer, as this would signify that it becomes 'unused' which doesn't make sense.
Also, I tested Robin's state of 'untrippability' against an Inkay from a Pokeball, but unfortunately Inkay's trip is considered 'special' just like a banana peel, so Robin can't become immune to it.
It's possible they did it just so they could get the reference of it being green in there in general, but then changed their mind since fans would say it doesn't make sense.
Pretty sure that for Palutena, the dodging sound effect is supposed to be a reference to KI: Uprising, since Pit's is also taken straight from the game. So rather than have it be the "teleport" sound effect it's more just a reference, hence why it applies to the directional air-dodge despite her not disappearing.
A lot of Namco games have the 765 number reference in them, heck, Pac Man's final smash does it as well with the score for hitting consecutive enemies doubles the "score" he gets until reaching 8000 where it instead displays 7650.
I may be wrong, but in the pac man trailer, while its hard to tell, it looks like there are hit particle effects off screen when the water is interacting with samus, so that further supports the theory of pac mans water being a hitbox instead of a windbox during development before they changed their minds
For pacman's final smash animation, I didn't even notice they removed the pellets he eats D: We gotta get pacman a meal!
I think the animation still works, like it can also be viewed as him just raising his arms up, looking up with his mouth open as he is enjoying the rush of energy, then smiling back at the camera to show he's ready to transform. Though, I will always see his final smash as him just eating the pellets.
The trip immunity is semi niche but in the Kazuya, DK, Kirby matchups specifically, it's pretty influential since if your opponent isn't aware the trip wont work, they can maybe be punished for it... Robin is slow and needs all he can get. DK, Kirby and Kazuya all make use of trip combos.
You forgot R.O.B using its busted down tilt.
Damn Robin would’ve been great in Brawl
Hell in the Bayonetta series is Inferno, Heaven is Paradiso, and Earth is Purgatorio, or the world of Chaos. Most of her enemies actually come from Heaven as she's bound to killing angels every day, which is fun
Purgatorio is a place in between the other 3 realms
Our world/chaos is different from purgatorio
I like Kirby being the starter character in WoL. Since he can get other fighter abilities, it can both encourage new players to try and fight new characters in order to see their ability, and helps them figure out which character they wanna play as once they find a copy ability they like.
“Speaking of protection- I would like to thank todays sponsor: Trojan”
Thanks for being one of the few creators who actually understands why the announcer voice lines are duplicated for characters with multiple genders (with those exceptions). Other creators are very confused and don't seem to realise there are other languages beside English.
Happy birthday PKBeats ! Hope there's still a lot to discover in this game, i don't want this serie to ever end not gonna lie
2:08 this entire thing. My guy, Kirby is a killer of gods. He could be considered the God of death for all other gods, even other gods of death.
Y’know how static electricity causes your hair to stand up?
Yeah that’s essentially what’s happening to robin except it’s their entire body and especially their spine.
(They are irradiated)
In the Chinese names for Byleth, the male name is 贝雷特 (bay-lay-tuh), and the female name is 贝雷丝 (bay-lay-sih). As far as I can tell, it’s for the same reasons you brought up for the Japanese versions (masculine vs feminine), but interestingly the male version is usually how they translate the name “Berrett.” I think this probably a coincidence.
Also, bonus thing I noticed in one of your other videos that talked about the names, the Chinese name for Pac-Man is 吃豆人 (chur-doh-run), which literally means “eat bean man,” which I find really funny for some reason, haha.
Something cool that might have happened for either palu or bayo is they could have been voice acted since both characters are arguably the most talkative in the game
robin's announcer thing may be because he has two spanish names, in latin america they are called robin, while in spain they are called daraen (as far as i know), and with byleth even though the announcer calls them byleth, in japanese they are called "beretto" and "beresu" for the male and female respectively
The voicelines are the same either way, so you either got 2 robin or 2 daraen
Same with French, in France they call them Daraen but in Canadian French they the name Robin.
But Rosalina is named "Harmonie" in France French but in Canadian French she keep the name "Rosalina"
Unless Rosalina also has 2 announcer voice lines as well this theory is probably wrong
The reason why the battle against Duck Hunt in Pac-Man's Classic Mode route has no music is to simply replicate the original game, which had no music during actual gameplay.
As a Robin main since Smash 4 started, the non tripping glitch should be very helpful in those MUs.
When he said "speaking of protection" I thought mans was about to have an ad read for trojan or sum.
Im pretty sure the "banner" that displays pacmans alt colour in his stock icon is a soft reference to the walls in the classic 2D pacman games
It would've been really cool if Pac-Man ate the Smash Ball.
Apparently Sakurai would call Pac-Man, "your company's character" during development. And apparently many people kept forgetting that he was technically their companies character and had to double take who he was talking about XD
we have no idea how smash works, but our best guess is they made thoron give you untrippable for some reason and forgot to have it take it away at some point?
I was 100% ready for you to say "Speaking of protection, I'd like to thank todays sponsor Trojan"
Kirby is by FAR the most powerful character in smash from a lore perspective, so him surviving Galeem makes perfect sense
If anyone have played Kazuya's Classic Mode, I feel like the Lucario never trips when getting hit by Stature Smash for some reason... Probably unrelated to the Robin thing but still weird
I suspect when making smash 4, they weren't yet certain if any languages would want 2 names for Robin, so they gave the placeholder as a safety. maybe they had even heard that it would be needed somewhere, but that localization team changed their mind about it later.
My guess on the World of Light survivor thing is: A) Kirby is a good beginner character and a starter, B) He was in SSB64, C) He's very family friendly by default, unlike the other 2, and D) Starting with just Palu or Bayo would feel wrong. Also happy belated birthday!
I can't believe robin can beat Kazuya Mishima
The match-up wasn't even that bad before.
To clarify the wording at 12:51 re: "The Slip Effect". Pretty much every hitbox has an "effect" coded. In most cases it is just visual stuff like "flame" causes the fighter to be on fire, "coin" (on Super Jump Punch) causes coins to appear, "magic" (not to be confused with the "type" of the same name) causes sparkles, etc. However, some actually do things like "electric" causes more hitlag, "sleep" puts fighters to sleep, "flower" adds a flower to the character and does damage over time, and "slip" forces a trip (unless you have Trip Immunity spirits). Ruben (a prominent Smash researcher) says that Thoron seems to bypass the trip chance calculation; why it does that to begin with is a mystery.
Also, that trivia was added within 12 hours of Archmage's tweet. It may be a bit difficult to make a full video in that time.
DK and Kirby use their down tilt for a few combos with their grabs
The way I see it, Robin uses Thoron to say no to drugs. Therefore, he avoids trippin'.
I'll see myself out, but not before I say happy birthday to PKBeats!
I believe that the reason is the game is updating robin's state, (Spell Book) on the same frame, meaning his state cannot be overridden unless it's by force.
Bayonetta's trinity of realities are called Paradiso (equivalent of heaven), Purgatorio (the mortal realm), and Inferno (equivalent of hell).
The next game should “balance” Robin by getting rid of the sword/tome “use” meter, the Levin Sword always being out, and making Robin always immune to tripping.
In their original game, Robin’s in-game class models *_don’t have feet_* during combat. :3
Dang, happy birthday and congratulations on 22! It’s amazing that you’ve been able to find such success doing something you really seem to enjoy at this age! I turned 22 this past summer, and it’s really inspiring to hear that we’re the same age, when so many TH-camrs I’m familiar with are a fair bit older. Gives me hope. Anywho, enjoy the birthday, and here’s to a fantastic year!
Imagine if the Robin glitch existed in Brawl
Also, I hope you have a great birthday! Happy birthday!
This makes Robin S tier
Lol, nah, only got better at around 3-5 match-ups at best.
I never realized how close in age we were because I actually turned 22 yesterday, Happy Birthday PK Beats 🎂!
Personally, I think it woulda been really funny to see Bayo and Kirby working together in the beginning cutscene. I'm a big fan of conflicting attitudes in partners.
That’s even stranger that Kirby becomes immune to tripping after using Thoron as well. Bizarre
Sonic's also a god-slayer who has travelled universes, so I guess he's like an honorable Bayonetta.
Bayonetta has slain countless amounts of angels (her main enemies) and demons (something went wrong with Bayonetta's relationship with demons in Bayonetta 2).
She even has killed her world's God (Jubileus) and defeated the god of chaos (Aesir). It was pretty obvious because they could connect Galeem with Jubileus for Bayonetta and Dharkon with Hades for Palutena.
This is also the reason why Pit and Dark Pit were shown in her original reveal trailer because she actively hunts for angels to feed her demons, be a sassy sadist, and acquire golden halos.
The Duck Hunt music thing could be a reference to the fact that Duck Hunt has no constant background music in their original game?
The "shelves" for Pac-Man's alt stock icons are based on the walls of the original Pac-Man.
Bayonetta lore: The angels Bayonetta fights have their home known as Paradiso (or Heaven). Demons come from Inferno (or Hell, also Rodin's bar is the Gates of Hell). Angels and demons reside in a parallel plane of existence called Purgatorio, and Bayonetta can freely travel there to fight them, otherwise they're invisible except with special lenses (that Bayonetta uses) and intangible except if you were to strike with an object (physical objects will work fine, mainly in the first game where you protect Young Cereza and Bayo can't punch the enemies). Some people thought maybe Bayo could survive Galeem's attack in Purgatorio, but she's not actually travelling anywhere different, it's a parallel plane where Galeem probably already touches.
Happy 22nd birthday! I hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoy your content!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, I HAVE LOVED YOUR RANDOM SMASH FACTS SERIES 🎉🎉🎉
that was pretty sick at the end where you killed two phlog pyros by just wacking them with a random crit powerjack
I would say this could help Robin mains, but they’re basically nonexistent
For the survivor of Galeem, they chose Kirby because he is the ultimate beginner character, and they wanted to prepare for new players who start with WoL. Yes, he has faced and defeated multiple universe ending threats like Galeem, but I'd like to make it clear as a Kirby fan that Kirby has *never* flied faster than the speed of light before. In fact, he doesn't actually ride the Warpstar that often either.
It makes sense that Kirby could defeat Galeem, but it doesn't actually line up with the lore for him to *flee* Galeem.
Edit: Actually, I think the Warpstar may indeed have the ability to travel faster than the speed of light, so Kirby's escape could indeed be canon.
I do believe there are a few pause screens depicting his warp star being able to travel faster then light when necessary.
@@shinyeeveelution789 Woahwoahwoah, wait what???! Do you remember which game it was??
@@sherbertshortkake6649 I don't remember what game it was, but I do believe there are *multiple* lore videos out there mentioning this.
@@shinyeeveelution789 I've just gone in search of an answer and the Wiki appears to provide an interesting theory. If you pay attention in-game when Kirby is riding a warpstar, he is often seen flying into the background before he disappears in a sparkle of stars. The Wiki suggests that this could actually be Kirby teleporting to the next area, instead of simply being a basic animation.
Upon that, with reflection on the literal name of the Warpstar, it would make sense that it could travel at 'WARPSPEED'; ie, fast enough to travel through dimensions.
In this case, I think I can safely recede my argument. The Warpstar must have had the ability to travel through spacetime the entire time and I just never payed enough attention to notice. Thanks!!!
@@sherbertshortkake6649 I'm glad you could figure this out, bc to be honest I forgot the wiki exists!
Purgatory isn't hell. It's more like a waiting room that God sends all the unbaptized babies till the apocalypse happens.
2:10 If you take lore into consideration, Kirby would still live because he is the reincarnation of a god AND has defeated gods multiple times
The reason why palu and bayo would be able to escape galeem is because they could escape to alternate universes and stuff,this is also why kirby's warp star was able to escape too since Its so fast that warp space and time or something like that,the warp star is strange
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I did always find it weird that Bayonetta didn't survive considering she can move faster than light, slow time to a crawl, go to other dimensions, & travel through space.
so can kirby
@@mcfucknugget2673 Yes but that's why he survived.
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we can also go through space
Thoron being kinda glitchy anyways (see the effects of time on thoron and how they had to remove kill screen from thoron because the move wouldn't work) I'd say they put a flag to avoid robin getting tripped during thoron but forgot to remove that flag once thoron has been launched/interrupted ?
I wonder if Robin just naturally can't be tripped during that move, and the game doesn't recognize when to stop that state (this is just a guess, I have no knowledge whatsoever that could help find the actual reason)
This video literally explains why I cannot get Robin players to trip with my d-tilt as Kirby. I've always wondered why. Nonslip shoes?
Happy birthday, PKBeats! Thank you for all the fun content!
The amount of characters went from 13 to 3 lmao
Happy birthday PK!!! Love your content - keep on keepin on!
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Happy birthday! You ever wonder how it's 9 months after Valentine's day?
Happy birthday dude, hope you feel better soon and have fun
If Bayo was the protagonist of World of Light that would be insane lol
I love these videos and all of your trivia videos in general. Keep up the good work!
Dude this is amaizing! We both share birthdays! We might even we lost twins!! (Ok no, but really. Hope you too had an amazing birthday and take care of those allergies! ^^)
I think Kirby IS the most fitting character, he's killed many gods/extremely powerful beings as well.
Queen sectonia: Eats not 1, but FIVE Hyper fruit (Where 1 makes Kirby super-powered) and Kirby does it with 0.
Dark nebula: The lord of hell.
Dark mind: Ruler of a dimension.
Fecto Elfilis: Literally called the Ultimate Life Form.
I know you are focused on wiki stuff at the moment, but hear me out for a useless fact submission. When Fox beats Falco in a 1v1, Fox actually has a unique line for his victory screen. I haven't tested this with wolf, nor have I tested with more than two players. But yeah, Fox gets a unique victory screen line if he beats Falco.
Kirby probably survived because he is both a god and has killed gods. Not only that, but out of everyone on the smash roster, if he had me of his copy abilities from his games they’d be toast. (Fire pun included)
Oh jeez, happy birthday, PK! Had no clue you were born two days before me haha... Love the vid as always!
Well you see bayo is a god slayer, plau is a god but Kirby? He is *Sakuris boi*
Super late and not sure if this was posted before, but just a neat thing about the Bayonetta dimension hop thing she can do, heaven is Paradiso, Purgatorio is the kinda middle ground where angels and witches can interact on earth without hurting normal people unless they damage the surroundings, and hell is Inferno.
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Ayyyy Happy bday PKB! This series has been delightful. It’s fantastic to have someone bringing in so much in depth knowledge on Smash to a the wider community. I’ve loved surprising friends in matches with obscure facts
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Palutena and Bayonetta surviving may be due to them being the goddess of Light and the Umbra Witch respectively, and that they would survive Galeem and Dharkon's attacks
I was hoping that the glitch worked against Diddy, I would use robin as a secondary or anyone that can ovoid tripping lol
Could require more testing but
If Thoron makes Robin change to a state of seudo-airbone and it doesnt finish (you can see how his air moves changes doing the move) and that explain why normal tripping does not work
Random fact: byleth’s bow when it is not fully charged is a projectile like a arrow but it’s full charged it is like energy so ness’s psi shield can absorbe it
happy birthday dude! these vids are always nice to chill out and watch, you deserve a good birthday!
Robin would be OP in Brawl
also happy (belated) birthday, PK!
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When it comes to Robin, I think an anti-tripping effect was added to the move, and the devs just forgot to have that effect removed at the end of the animation.
Also, happy birthday!
Finally! The tech my main needs to be a top tier!
Actually in the french version of the game, robin name is "Daraen" for his male alt. For some reason, the french version of the game is not the same as the US version with the language changed.
It may be unintended, but as a Robin main I’ll take whatever I can get now that the game apparently isn’t going to be patched anymore…
You share a birthday with Unus Annus that's wild, well happy birthday man, hope you had a good one!
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22 means you're born in 2000 which is funny
Thanks for making your content it's always fun to chill and learn about new things about a game i love
Happy birthday to you PK!
I'm pretty sure Pac-Man's jab clanking with Hydrant's water is accurate considering before patch 9.0.0, jabs could clank with other moves, which was removed in patch 9.0.0
Idk if this was also the case for windboxes, and it's hard to test without reverting back to before 9.0.0, so my best guess is that was the case