No solar charging. No 30 amps for camping. The price is $4500. At this point, I am thinking of getting an electric F150, which has 20 times more juice, and the government gives you back $5k
This is not a power supply designed for off grid, RV or Glamping. It is strictly a power source designed for the job site. Mark my words this tool is a GEN one version, Gen2 will have a bunch of charging ports and be built to live outside and mounted on trailers are inside trucks so landscapers are other contractors can charge there a MX batteries on the go
People commenting on the 25 minute run time- that's at 5KW output. A large grinder is a bad example for this power supply because it's a continuous draw tool. I've tracked power on several new home builds and often 10-20KWH gets a house built. So maybe 5-10 charges for this thing.
When I first saw this, I was excited. But then I realized it wasn't solar compatible, unless I have an inverter and other parts. For this price point I can get something with almost double the capacity AND the solar panels that will keep it charged. For me the whole point of having a portable power bank like this is to have it charged via solar. If I need a generator to charge this on-site, I'm better off just buying a slightly bigger generator by itself.
Did he ever state battery chemistry or inverting capacity, running and surge? The ecoflow delta pro is rated 3600 running/7200w surge and has 3.3 kwh for around $3800. Wondering if the ruggedized construction is worth $700 more for 50% less kwh
I made one out of the packout rolling toolbox, two deep cycle marine batteries, two charge controllers, two 100w solar panels, and a 2000w inverter from harbor freight. Didn't spend anywhere near $4500.
Or hear me out for about $300 more you could get two ryobi40v power stations with 8 12ah batteries and the accessories that bridge them to get up to 30 amps and the plug in to that so instead of 1internal 2 kilowatt battery that will only ever have one use you have 8 batteries to use in other things but when you want and tie both power stations together you’ll have a battery ratting of 3.4 kilowatt
You’re right however you have to keep in mind this is only the first generation of the roll on power supply I’d hope by gen 3 theres minimum swappable batteries with 30amp, 240v and solar charging
I like the packout feature - I'd prefer the M-18 version just outfitted to integrate with packout. That's something I would likely purchase. Aside from the packout there is no benefit to existing Milwaukee tool platform users.
No solar input (charge via gas generator?), probably NCM cells (~500 cycles, same as their tool batteries), heavy enough to need wheels (should be hand-portable). $4500?!? Fail. Stick an EcoFlow in your truck and call it a day, lol.
Cool and all but bluetti and ecoflow are way better for that price. bluetti is rated for over 3000 charge cycles and then it still operates at 80% after the first 3000 to 5000. They have the best battery tech for this sort of thing I'm looking forward to seeing future improvements on this from all tool manufacturers
I don't get why they're using li-ion cylindre cells for something like that. It's more expensive to produce and won't last nearly as long as LFP cells. I guess they really wanted to use their unique "RED LITHIUM TECHNOLOGY" so they can fool a few more people into wasting twice as much as the competition.
But none of those charge cycles will do you any good when they don't provide enough power on the construction site. I'm not sure why people that want to camp and have home backup power are making comparisons to the products they want/use, but Milwaukee is not in the business of emergency preparedness and outdoor recreation.
@@JohnV37 You could buy two Ecoflow, plug them together, have 4kwh or more, 240v, charge them with solar, they will last 5 times longer and you'll still save 1000$. This thing, like many of their tool is overpriced, there's no way around it.
At that price point you should get two of them. And after those tests they are obviously just for personal and not professional use. That wouldn't make it on a real job site.
This is not good enough. Two 20 amp circuits? For 4500?? Yeah I’ll just shove an EcoFlow into my rolling box. Really dropped the ball here. Which is disappointing because the front rails are perfect to attach casters to to roll this around.
Guessing most 3phase applications would be pretty tough to try and run on batterys. If you have a specific idea in mind tho there are options. A $100-300 VFD(the higher power output you need, the more expensive) could easily be wired up to one of the outputs. A VFD can take single phase 110 imput and output 3phase 220 or 400. Nice thing with them is you can adjust the frequency output as well, giving you variable speed control of what you hook up to it. I'm not sure if I would want to use anything 400+ volts without a true ground connected to it, tho, but I'm not an electrician or electrical engineer so I don't particularly have any real knowledge about that part.
No interchangeable batteries??? Cmon now dewalt has had theirs out for a while now, I might have to switch to dewalt and paint it red to avoid that mustard yellow
So a quick internet search and i can get an anker battery bank that is 2 kW, has a 30A port for RV, can be charged by solar panels, blah blah blah for $1999. I commend milwaukee for not being afraid to introduce new and cool tools but at 4500 bucks i dont see this selling. I look forward to pickign one up at a deep discount when mikwaukee realizes the same thing.
Lemme tell you about the pure INSANITY behind the design of the MX fuel generator. Milwaukee originally designed it shut off on its own when it wasn't being used after a certain amount of time (I think it was hour) and people COMPLAINED - so Milwaukee quickly redesigned it to NOT to shut off, EVER. THE PROBLEM ???? There is ALWAYS a fan running on the thing, that never shuts off. So if you turn the thing on to try to recharge a single 2.0 battery - and forget to go back and shut it off - after a few hours the thing is completely dead - and NOW you can recharge 2 giant batteries that ran themselves dead to charge one tiny battery. There is no load sensor on the thing that eliminates parasitic power draw to keep it alive if it's not actually powering anything . It's the dumbest thing ever.
I wonder what are 1) what’s the recharge time from 0%to 80/100% and at what wattage or amperage is that and 2)can I use while charge, 3)and at what percentage while charging can it be capable of outputing power like a pass thorough system Being many things I like it, it’s serves like a pack out and power so sort of good . Wish it had solar by factory but that’s maybe too much to ask for a compact thing 😅
3 1/2 hours to charge to 100%. No solar capabilities because Milwaukee does not feel that a job site is the place to set up solar panels. There’s just not a lot of room on job sites to mess around with that. Remember, Milwaukee is a power tool company serving their core users. They have zero interest in building toys for Glampers in the sprinter vans, off grid living or RV camping. If you just want to buy their tools and use it for that great but they’re not going to design their tools to appease this user group, it’s just not in mission
@@ConcordCarpenter one thing Milwaukee did do right is the built in batteries to avoid swapping and it’s all built in the wheels is a plus . True this is a beast not many generators have the power to run two tools like that it won’t make such a loud noise. What would be the warranty like 5years ?
Solar isn't just for glamping, I've seen several contractors install panels on their trailers for landscaping to help keep up with charging. Not having a solar charging option is a missed opportunity. Using a battery to charge batteries without any real way to charge the main battery is defeating the purpose of having mobile charging. This thing looks like two carry-ons strapped together in a packout with a display and non replacable battery. For the same money you would be way better off buying a carry-on and 16 more 12.0 batteries. Good concept but I hope they make a quick turn around with a gen2.@@ConcordCarpenter
I love Milwaukee for pushing innovation but this is 2x the price per w/h than that of a large Anker, Bluetti, or Jackery. All of which provide high output, sine wave flow, and years of experience and reputation. This tool is a flop unfortunately, i cant see anyone making this purchase.
A product like this is not marketed to small businesses. They are targeting multimillion and billion dollar companies where the price just does not matter.
When your doing that test it was showing 20 30 min of run time on the screen. So I guess you use the gas generator to charge up the battery every hour or so on the job site? 😂
I know you said to use a generator to fill the batteries as a joke. But that’s the best way to utilize a gas generator. Think of how often the generator is running full speed without the saw cutting wood? What a waste of gas. You could charge the battery with the generator. Once the battery was full. Shut off the generator to not use fuel. Battery only gets used when the saw is spinning. Fill the battery from the generator every 30 min-1 hour (during high use) No generator going all fucking day, wasting gas. You came up with a great idea accidentally
@@brandongrassilli813an efficient generator burns so little gas do you really think it would be worth your time to go back and forth turning on a generator to charge batteries?
The most stupid design I have ever seen, simply because have to use grid power to charge the battery's ,why they forgot SOLAR to charge the battery. For $4499 not worth the money..
Could of hire me to better design this who ever designing this not done enough research what type of battery ? 2.5KwH without solar input ? didn’t list of cycle count only one usb of each ? common Milwaukee
Thirty minutes of run time with that load. Yeah….. I’m not sure how much help that’ll be. It’s just simply overpriced. If it were $2499, I’d very likely buy one.
So this 5k dollar power bank will charge 6 batteries before going dead itself. My company just bought one. We already charge our batteries in the field with Honda generators. I can't stand how much money is thrown away because of this electric shit.
No user removable battery, remenber most people that uses power tool aren't smart enough to even change AA battery in a remote, now internal battery in a power station. So after few years lithium craps out it game over unless you can find a hobbyist that plays around with building lithium packs.
Everyone is dissing this rolling battery, as they should, but Concord Carpenter....really?? I have watched you guys do so many well thought out tool tests that I am very disappointed here. Comparing a generator 200 feet away to the battery sitting at your feet? You even say we should see a faster cut from the battery. Duh, because there will be a measurable voltage drop from the 200 foot cord. Why didn't you compare voltages before the test? There is no other reason that the battery would perform better. I lost some respect for you today.
Sorry to disappoint you. We have ZERO information on these tools beforehand to do testing, or research. Any of our independent testing happens later. This is a "preview" for us and you only. Take it for what it is a preview
What is your criticism, exactly? The demonstration is exactly that the alternative to Milwaukee's power station is that the construction site would need to either put the tools outside near the gas generator, or there needs to be a long extension cord run (and all the time and effort to do that, and the side effect of voltage drop). OR, just roll up with a battery that can work indoors and power the tools you want.
No solar charging. No 30 amps for camping. The price is $4500. At this point, I am thinking of getting an electric F150, which has 20 times more juice, and the government gives you back $5k
Makes sense
In my county that car cost 188.000USD @@go-toolzreviews
But, but it's Packout... /s
Holy shit 4500😂
This is not a power supply designed for off grid, RV or Glamping. It is strictly a power source designed for the job site.
Mark my words this tool is a GEN one version, Gen2 will have a bunch of charging ports and be built to live outside and mounted on trailers are inside trucks so landscapers are other contractors can charge there a MX batteries on the go
People commenting on the 25 minute run time- that's at 5KW output. A large grinder is a bad example for this power supply because it's a continuous draw tool. I've tracked power on several new home builds and often 10-20KWH gets a house built. So maybe 5-10 charges for this thing.
For 1000 bucks I can have a 10k generator mounted pto on my truck. Then i can run all of my tools all at the same time.
When I first saw this, I was excited. But then I realized it wasn't solar compatible, unless I have an inverter and other parts. For this price point I can get something with almost double the capacity AND the solar panels that will keep it charged. For me the whole point of having a portable power bank like this is to have it charged via solar. If I need a generator to charge this on-site, I'm better off just buying a slightly bigger generator by itself.
It just said 25 min at current output. Lol. I don’t think we’re getting rid of gas anytime soon Milwaukee.
If this had a packout solar panel / telescopic wind turbine for charging I'd consider buying it
Just get the ford lighting at this point
I hope they make a pedal bike for charging this if the power goes out for a month
@@philipdove1705 that’ll be 30k thanx
Did he ever state battery chemistry or inverting capacity, running and surge? The ecoflow delta pro is rated 3600 running/7200w surge and has 3.3 kwh for around $3800. Wondering if the ruggedized construction is worth $700 more for 50% less kwh
No utility company is going to buy an ecoflow delta pro. These things are not designed for homeowners.
Build a solar generator...in a rollaway cooler....save 3 grand
I made one out of the packout rolling toolbox, two deep cycle marine batteries, two charge controllers, two 100w solar panels, and a 2000w inverter from harbor freight. Didn't spend anywhere near $4500.
@@reviewedsnail6086 Cool. Make one that does 7200W peak, and let us know how much that costs.
@@reviewedsnail6086have details on your build?
I can get 2 bluetti ac300s that support 240V split phase for that price with solar capability and dc charging.
So, Milwaukee now makes really keen space helmets too.
Or hear me out for about $300 more you could get two ryobi40v power stations with 8 12ah batteries and the accessories that bridge them to get up to 30 amps and the plug in to that so instead of 1internal 2 kilowatt battery that will only ever have one use you have 8 batteries to use in other things but when you want and tie both power stations together you’ll have a battery ratting of 3.4 kilowatt
You’re right however you have to keep in mind this is only the first generation of the roll on power supply
I’d hope by gen 3 theres minimum swappable batteries with 30amp, 240v and solar charging
$4500?
Criminal prices I’m just gonna laugh at whoever I see buys this
I like the packout feature - I'd prefer the M-18 version just outfitted to integrate with packout. That's something I would likely purchase. Aside from the packout there is no benefit to existing Milwaukee tool platform users.
Do milwuakee sell their new tools for coutries with 240v power outlets?
not sure
No solar input (charge via gas generator?), probably NCM cells (~500 cycles, same as their tool batteries), heavy enough to need wheels (should be hand-portable). $4500?!? Fail.
Stick an EcoFlow in your truck and call it a day, lol.
Cool and all but bluetti and ecoflow are way better for that price. bluetti is rated for over 3000 charge cycles and then it still operates at 80% after the first 3000 to 5000. They have the best battery tech for this sort of thing I'm looking forward to seeing future improvements on this from all tool manufacturers
Gonna check them out
I don't get why they're using li-ion cylindre cells for something like that. It's more expensive to produce and won't last nearly as long as LFP cells.
I guess they really wanted to use their unique "RED LITHIUM TECHNOLOGY" so they can fool a few more people into wasting twice as much as the competition.
But none of those charge cycles will do you any good when they don't provide enough power on the construction site. I'm not sure why people that want to camp and have home backup power are making comparisons to the products they want/use, but Milwaukee is not in the business of emergency preparedness and outdoor recreation.
@@JohnV37 You could buy two Ecoflow, plug them together, have 4kwh or more, 240v, charge them with solar, they will last 5 times longer and you'll still save 1000$.
This thing, like many of their tool is overpriced, there's no way around it.
@@MrArcticPOWER You're talking about battery capacity, when in raw wattage, there is not an Ecoflow product that is comparable.
At that price point you should get two of them. And after those tests they are obviously just for personal and not professional use. That wouldn't make it on a real job site.
Y’all need to go back to the drawing board Milwaukee… again
This is not good enough. Two 20 amp circuits? For 4500?? Yeah I’ll just shove an EcoFlow into my rolling box. Really dropped the ball here. Which is disappointing because the front rails are perfect to attach casters to to roll this around.
I would maybe consider hacking into one of these for the form factor, but otherwise it’s just way too little benefit.
Man if they had a version that made three phase 400v I’d scoop one up yesterday.
That’ll be 25k thank you
@@maxuaboright? And weigh 1500 lbs
Guessing most 3phase applications would be pretty tough to try and run on batterys. If you have a specific idea in mind tho there are options. A $100-300 VFD(the higher power output you need, the more expensive) could easily be wired up to one of the outputs. A VFD can take single phase 110 imput and output 3phase 220 or 400. Nice thing with them is you can adjust the frequency output as well, giving you variable speed control of what you hook up to it. I'm not sure if I would want to use anything 400+ volts without a true ground connected to it, tho, but I'm not an electrician or electrical engineer so I don't particularly have any real knowledge about that part.
Solar panel no that’s crazy … Milwaukee you’ve let me down 😫
Why no 220?
No interchangeable batteries??? Cmon now dewalt has had theirs out for a while now, I might have to switch to dewalt and paint it red to avoid that mustard yellow
$4500 😳
So a quick internet search and i can get an anker battery bank that is 2 kW, has a 30A port for RV, can be charged by solar panels, blah blah blah for $1999. I commend milwaukee for not being afraid to introduce new and cool tools but at 4500 bucks i dont see this selling. I look forward to pickign one up at a deep discount when mikwaukee realizes the same thing.
$6,200.00 canadien, stupid price for what you get, way better products out there.......
I was interested until the $4499.00 part. Price point is way off the mark IMHO.
Lemme tell you about the pure INSANITY behind the design of the MX fuel generator. Milwaukee originally designed it shut off on its own when it wasn't being used after a certain amount of time (I think it was hour) and people COMPLAINED - so Milwaukee quickly redesigned it to NOT to shut off, EVER.
THE PROBLEM ???? There is ALWAYS a fan running on the thing, that never shuts off. So if you turn the thing on to try to recharge a single 2.0 battery - and forget to go back and shut it off - after a few hours the thing is completely dead - and NOW you can recharge 2 giant batteries that ran themselves dead to charge one tiny battery. There is no load sensor on the thing that eliminates parasitic power draw to keep it alive if it's not actually powering anything . It's the dumbest thing ever.
I wonder what are 1) what’s the recharge time from 0%to 80/100% and at what wattage or amperage is that and 2)can I use while charge, 3)and at what percentage while charging can it be capable of outputing power like a pass thorough system
Being many things I like it, it’s serves like a pack out and power so sort of good . Wish it had solar by factory but that’s maybe too much to ask for a compact thing 😅
0% to 100% in less than 3.5 hours. Output is 3600W continuous, 7200W peak. It can be used while it’s charging.
3 1/2 hours to charge to 100%. No solar capabilities because Milwaukee does not feel that a job site is the place to set up solar panels. There’s just not a lot of room on job sites to mess around with that.
Remember, Milwaukee is a power tool company serving their core users. They have zero interest in building toys for Glampers in the sprinter vans, off grid living or RV camping. If you just want to buy their tools and use it for that great but they’re not going to design their tools to appease this user group, it’s just not in mission
@@ConcordCarpenter one thing Milwaukee did do right is the built in batteries to avoid swapping and it’s all built in the wheels is a plus . True this is a beast not many generators have the power to run two tools like that it won’t make such a loud noise. What would be the warranty like 5years ?
Solar isn't just for glamping, I've seen several contractors install panels on their trailers for landscaping to help keep up with charging. Not having a solar charging option is a missed opportunity. Using a battery to charge batteries without any real way to charge the main battery is defeating the purpose of having mobile charging. This thing looks like two carry-ons strapped together in a packout with a display and non replacable battery. For the same money you would be way better off buying a carry-on and 16 more 12.0 batteries. Good concept but I hope they make a quick turn around with a gen2.@@ConcordCarpenter
@@tumelin "This thing looks like two carry-ons strapped together..." How so? It looks literally smaller than even just one Carry-On to me.
I love Milwaukee for pushing innovation but this is 2x the price per w/h than that of a large Anker, Bluetti, or Jackery. All of which provide high output, sine wave flow, and years of experience and reputation. This tool is a flop unfortunately, i cant see anyone making this purchase.
I went to clock out tonight and this 5 thousand dollar money pit was sitting in the office. Fucking stupid.
Can get a really nice generator for 4500$ that you can power anything including with the right set of stingers a welder or whatever.
A product like this is not marketed to small businesses. They are targeting multimillion and billion dollar companies where the price just does not matter.
But Dewalt has one for $500 with interchangeable batteries. 2400 continious watts.
that cool but i have power station i build its water proof 3000 watts pure sine wave inverter 48V 120V G0Hz 40A
When your doing that test it was showing 20 30 min of run time on the screen. So I guess you use the gas generator to charge up the battery every hour or so on the job site? 😂
I know you said to use a generator to fill the batteries as a joke.
But that’s the best way to utilize a gas generator.
Think of how often the generator is running full speed without the saw cutting wood? What a waste of gas.
You could charge the battery with the generator. Once the battery was full. Shut off the generator to not use fuel.
Battery only gets used when the saw is spinning.
Fill the battery from the generator every 30 min-1 hour (during high use)
No generator going all fucking day, wasting gas.
You came up with a great idea accidentally
@@brandongrassilli813 we need a hybrid of the two.
@@brandongrassilli813an efficient generator burns so little gas do you really think it would be worth your time to go back and forth turning on a generator to charge batteries?
The most stupid design I have ever seen, simply because have to use grid power to charge the battery's ,why they forgot SOLAR to charge the battery. For $4499 not worth the money..
Could of hire me to better design this
who ever designing this not done enough research
what type of battery ?
2.5KwH without solar input ?
didn’t list of cycle count
only one usb of each ?
common Milwaukee
We are literally using big batteries to charge small batteries, and calling that “Progress”..
It's for those working woth no power for power tools. Table saws and what not
Thirty minutes of run time with that load. Yeah….. I’m not sure how much help that’ll be. It’s just simply overpriced. If it were $2499, I’d very likely buy one.
Nice.. But the bang for your buck will be to get the anker one for 1999
It needs to be solar powered
And when the battery stops working in it 2 weeks after the warranty is up, you have a paper weight.
So this 5k dollar power bank will charge 6 batteries before going dead itself. My company just bought one. We already charge our batteries in the field with Honda generators. I can't stand how much money is thrown away because of this electric shit.
No user removable battery, remenber most people that uses power tool aren't smart enough to even change AA battery in a remote, now internal battery in a power station. So after few years lithium craps out it game over unless you can find a hobbyist that plays around with building lithium packs.
Everyone is dissing this rolling battery, as they should, but Concord Carpenter....really?? I have watched you guys do so many well thought out tool tests that I am very disappointed here.
Comparing a generator 200 feet away to the battery sitting at your feet? You even say we should see a faster cut from the battery. Duh, because there will be a measurable voltage drop from the 200 foot cord. Why didn't you compare voltages before the test? There is no other reason that the battery would perform better. I lost some respect for you today.
Sorry to disappoint you. We have ZERO information on these tools beforehand to do testing, or research. Any of our independent testing happens later. This is a "preview" for us and you only. Take it for what it is a preview
What is your criticism, exactly? The demonstration is exactly that the alternative to Milwaukee's power station is that the construction site would need to either put the tools outside near the gas generator, or there needs to be a long extension cord run (and all the time and effort to do that, and the side effect of voltage drop). OR, just roll up with a battery that can work indoors and power the tools you want.
You literally have to keep generators ages away for noise/ emissions requirements in lots of cases
Overpriced piece of junk.