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I bought the DLC, I didn't rent the DLC.
Where is my DLC, Nikita?
Get fu**ed 😂😂😂. This is what nikita think about u and the rest of community
Maybe Nikita is bring back blockbuster?
Nah it clearly says we rented it 💀
@@chabek3355 whoa
Sorry, pie buddy, but your money went to pelmeni for Nikita. But you can buy 100% access to the DLC for just $250.
Nikita can piss off if he thinks that EOD should only get 6 months. That just tells you that he knew he fucked up.
Sounds like to me he's caving to the communities demands, but is also refusing to admit that it is in fact a DLC
@@sgtluka idk, my guess is that they made this mode trying to cheap out on servers, not expecting many ppl to buy it, if everyone gets it they will lose money on servers, thats my guess
@@sgtluka No, he's not caving to the demands, this is not our demand, at all. He's trying to appear to be doing so, while not in fact giving up anything; an empty apology. This is even worse to everyone with half a brain, cause it comes off as insincere, man this guy's awful at PR. Emotions aside, it's crazy to me how simply bad he is at PR.
@@KytexEdits I wouldn't expect much from this Russian company
whats even more funny is that whoever is running bsg twitter got community noted for saying "new offline mode" is not "dlc" and is considered "feature." While checking off all the list that would make the new feature mode a dlc. There gotta be like a class action lawsuit their hq is in England or something. Have em refund all EOD players who want their refund back. The $150 they spent plus the inflation rates.
I didn't realise bsg's tweet got community noted 💀
They tried to remove the community notes multiple times from their tweets actually.
They instantly got new different notes though which is even more funny.
what does it mean to get community noted?
@@digitalestheticsits like note from people of twitter/X who are paid to fact check
Just means they have community members force putting a clause under said tweet to explain either the tweet or something in the text@@digitalesthetics
@@digitalestheticsI wanna know too, I don’t use Twitter
Funny thing is 2-3 months ago on reddit Nikita said offline coop would be EOD only
Funny thing is 2 weeks ago Nikita said on Pestily's interview that there won't be any p2w mechanics ever, only like clothing and so on.
They are going to say that was only referring to the coop practice expansion you can buy from the eft website
@RicodeWaard I'm sure they will although it clearly said, "ability to play offline co-op. (EOD feature)" idk why they would do this after watching their top streamers enjoy the hell out of gray zone warfare
@@phatpac5 easy. Money. if you think anything other then money is the reason then you are an idiot i mean honestly what could cause him to be this greedy and them let the game get this bad other then money
3 weeks ago he told Pestily they would never do skill boosts... which is part of TUE.
Nikita.B - EFT (head, eyes)
not even head eyes, more like thorax armpit. he killed the game in the most stupid way possible
More like (legs, kneecaps) lol
(head, ass)
(community, heart)
(Bank, wallet)
This is legit funny. They really thought they could just toss us some crumbs so we'd move on lol. The fucking nerve.
“THE FOOKIN NERVE!” -Rocketpoweredmohawk
So, as A EOD you get a 6m trial version. Now i feel even worse. Thx BSG for your support
Yup. Woke up today hoping to hear good news, and now I'm pissed ALL over again
Temporary access to PvE is such a slap in the face
this is the biggest issue. everything else isnt a dlc so i could care less about that. pve mode is a dlc that was promised to us. its absolute bullshit. even if i dont plan on playing pve it should be part of the eod agreement.
@@IronMikeyT The special quest for extra pockets is DLC. When it comes to extra quests if it's not a pre-order bonus then it's DLC.
Especially when you consider that 6 months is about the duration of a wipe.
Especially when one of the main perks of the pve mode is NO WIPES. About how long is a typical wipe? SIX MONTHS
They can never give it out to EOD because of all the ones that bought unheard.
Special quest to get extra pockets is EOD only that's fuckin nuts why can't players with standard edition get it ? Things like that should be obtainable for everyone
EOD owner here and I agree with you
I promise you that those tasks will also be post Kappa content, which makes it completely irrelevant and stupid. :D
@@Lornextha right
Because EoD holders were promises a season pass which gives them access to ALL DLC, which extra quests are (singleplayer game established that over a decade ago), while standard editions did not.
Wait till the season pass only quests
I would have bought a battle pass or season pass if I knew it was gonna help. This unheard edition is dirty and they aren’t doing enough to fix this
EOD was the season pass. said so on the EFT website
@@deadscav not was still is
u still get the maps(dlc) that nikita was talking about in tarkov tv for literally years now the problem is that he doesnt think that this mode is considered dlc
@@inkozebadigbadig37 every version of the game gets the maps... how does that make EOD a season pass if all versions get the maps? Also what happened to the maps Town and Suburbs that were planned?
EoD users were promised access to all season pass/DLC content. That's the issue.
@@Athasin it wasn't a promise it was a purchase, we bought the dlc in advance with the eod, not the promise
don't forget that they changed unique gamma container for eod
can you explain?
@@TheWuii unheard also get gamma container now, when gamma was unique for eod
@@TheWuii wording in EOD description was "unique" secure container, then they added it into the unhinged edition therefore making it no longer a unique secure container. They then reworded it on the website (if Im not mistaken) to try cover their asses.
@@TheWuii The Gamma was supposed to be exclusive for EoD, but now it is again/still available by the UhEdition.
This exclusiveness was also stated on the website
yeah XD like they could literally avoid that by doing.. idk .. 3X2 + 3x1 slotted or even leave the 3X3 and reskin it (ONE FUCKING TEXTURE and a picture) and call it whatever... marked container, delta container.. black container... so fkin many ideas and nobody would give a fuck and there would be still a unique gamma for eods
If they really wanted money aid, they could literally ask for it like big warning into launcher: "we are in trouble we need financial aid to keep up and running, providing at least 10 euro or 20 euro will result in being given armband with theme of first respondent / first aid as a thank you for saving then game. that fkin pve could be sold for 20 euro and you could run on on ur either on ur pc (and just synchronize with servers afterwards) or on servers where you pay idk 5 euro a month for example and can play with friends (like renting a server on hosting). Also they could do fucking camo skins or themed skins (like cultist) on guns, there would be nothing bad about it. I dont get them. Who thought, these moves they did are a good idea.
It's a subtle and profitable way to rug pull a scam
@@BrunoSa96bingo. It's literally the only logical answer...but then again Nikita isn't exactly known for being logical or well thought out. I'm not sure but it definitely feels like pouring gas on a fire you very much intend to light.
Exactly, heck I give Wikipedia money when they ask and I barely use it. I get they need money and when they added the in game purchases like the clothing thing I didn't mind even though I have EOD and my interpretation of EOD is "pay big to help us now and we look after you in the future, and any content that costs money will be free to you."
@@FordFalcon54 I was thinking about this and there is one huge problem. Once you will announce financial problems, the game will likely fall into a death spiral as nobody will want to invest into failing development. Its really dangerous.
Tencent is already in the line trying to buy BSG and Tarkov. While I don't like the whole $250 edition thing, it is obvious they are desperate.
this reddit post makes it IMO not better but worse...
"high priority matching for EOD owners for 6 months"
"access to offline PVE mode for EOD owners for 6 months"
so they gonna let us play the offline mode for half a year, so we make characters, spend time in the mode, get attached to it and when the 6 months are over, many more players gonna say "well i rather upgrade now for 100 bucks plus taxes, otherwise all this time i spend in there is wasted...
like i wouldnt mind paying another 30-40 bucks for the PVE mode if they told us: "bois, we need money for servers to run"
but at the end, i dont want most of the things in the unheared edition. so having BSG expecting us to pay another 100 bucks, basically 2x the basegame price, is just insane and disrespectful...
Best part is it’s not actually offline your still on there dog shit servers that lag all over the place and for these 6 months it will be at its worse so we won’t really get it for 6 playable months either
@@jordani-dle193 haven't encountered any lag yet 🤔
@@baka9473 that’s where you are wrong you brain has been lagging from birth for you to think buying this is a good idea 👍
the offline coop mode is even worse than SPT or the multiplayer SPT
@@blacky8060 yeah, but I can't get any joy from SPT because I'm constantly haunted by thought that it's not real, unofficial, etc...
BSG at least responded to the outcry. And they seemed to miss the entire point:
1. pay to win is bad
2. ALL DLC = ALL DLC
The game is still in beta, wtf is this bullshit anyway...dlc for an unfinished game ?
I didn't upgrade, I can afford it but I refuse to out of principal. Thank you for those that stood their ground and said "No" to this type of behaviour from developers.
I 2nd this. Please no one buy it, it's a complete scam operation.
so it was okay when you did it a few years ago for $150 version of the game.....
That's a textbook bait & switch _and_ a breach of your purchase contract - if you paid for unlimited, free upgrades & DLC then the devs need to honour that _OR_ offer a refund or other suitable alternative in compensation. I recommend people check out the consumer regulation laws in the UK if that's where the business is registered, because this seems like a pretty blatant breach of purchase contract & non-delivery of goods & services. You're entitled to what you paid for.
People please do this. lol you have the internet for evidence to
That high priority matching gives me a sick feeling in my stomach. That Thats actually a thing. They can select a category of people and give them priority
Why do you think some streamers might get into fuller raids? 😮
We're literally paying for quicker matchmaking, it's gross.
This is probably what happens in alot of games already, and not just this genre. I bet theres alot of algorithms are made for paying customers and non paying customers. Or something like haveing better RNG in some cases.
Battlefield has had the same thing for years. Premium users got priority matchmaking
@@Sterlingarcher365 Another dying franchise
bro this game is never going to be finished lmao
Nikita straight up admited that in the Pestily interview...this is the best they can do, no more improvements coming.
i payed eod to not pay more in the future and get all dlcs free. unfortunately i didnt pay for features i guees, god thank nikita i had not to pay for vaulting.
what bothers me the most is the priortiy matching this the first step in actual streamer servers, so i have to wait 10min+ on fresh wipe to get into lobbyies while streamers get in 2 min. Is this how they wanna split the community in either streamer or not
You have streamer servers as is, it's called NA.
My thoughts exactly.
Plus they add even more pay to win for EOD players.
Standard edition players will have a lasting disadvantage and will take even longer to spawn into raid.
And standard edition players are probably the people that don't have as much time to play the game to begin with.
I swear, this will decrease player count even more.
I'm a standard edition players.
And if I'm already disadvantaged when I simply want to play the game, I'm out.
@@Simon-hd6dc how is decreasing player count a problem for a game that is one time purchase?
Maybe the hacking will cool down for us regular people.
@@1CTEBAH Ahahahaha. Imagine if, eventually, everyone will want to have standard edition in order to escape from the cheaters. 🤣
This is like patching a hole in a dam with scotch tape.
Better than having a gaping hole
more like visiting the titanic in a carbon fiber bottle.
the biggest problem is you can summon other players like wtf lmao is this elden ring
Huuh?
😂😂
@@Wunstab Unheard edition comes with an "SOS beacon device" that you can activate in a raid, that will ping your entire friendlist, giving them the option to hop in your raid to help
@@AwesomeNuke to be fair we don't know if it will be for online too but i guess it will or else they would have said that it's offline exclusive. EDIT: It is confirmed that it will be for pvp too
@@Caes3r_bruh wtf this is stupid. Won’t this just make Carries even easier? Cheater wipes a lobby and invites his clients to come to raid to get alll the loot? Wtf man Nikita is actually dented
Don’t let this make up for it guys we are still getting limited access to DLC we paid for and were promised upon buying EOD this is just to save face do not let them get away with this
He said eod will get permanent free access once the mode is finished and has enough server capacity
@@Caes3r_ brother the game has been in beta for 8 years waiting for full release to access what I already paid for means I could be waiting another 5 years before I see PvE
@@big_fella1548 you just aren't a true believer
While Landmark waws going over the website some one changed it as soon as landmark found it. that was so sad.
I heard you mention an outfit that comes with the unheard edition, but its not on the list and theres no results when you google it?
An in-game tattoo is an effing great idea, unique to your PMC.
Thanks for quick Video Axel!
I just wonder when you will cave in to the TUE edition.
I’ll sub just to see how long it takes
Shturman jacket would actually be pretty sweet.
i would buy it, They could have made all this money solely based on cosmetic stuff, like clothes, gun paint skins, and pmc features like different looks i.e beards, tattoos, or the like. But nope they went big or go home, and now looks like they are going home if everyone in the community can stick it out and not buy it.
there are so many cosmetics they could do, skins for equipment (helmets, vests, and backpacks) they could add weapon charms, they could add custom reticles for holosights and reflexes, they could add stickers for your weapons, patches for your clothing. they also could open up a patreon or go fund me, you know how they could be printing money? $10k and you get your own ingame item (sort of like streamer items, drinks, valuables, gear etc.) they could add profile customization so you could have a banner. they could do calling cards so whenever someone kills you, you will see their calling card. they could do so much but it seems like they are just going to cashout
So what happens if you had eod and bought the newer edition. Do you still get the stuff for eod
Priority matching for EOD users will mean even longer queue times for standard edition players?
The players that probably have even less time to play the game to begin with?
Also, the EOD users also receive pay-to-win benefits like increased trader access to good items as well as increased pocket size?
"Priority matching for EOD users will mean even longer queue times for standard edition players?"
Yes, but you know whats even more funny? Also means longer queue times for Unheard edition players for 6 months ahahah
If I bought the 250 edition, this morning I'd be fkn pissed.
@@AwesomeNuke AHAHAHAHA. I didn't even think of that. That's hilarious!
Кста, по поводу скинчесов за донат. Те что "уникальные" два для каждой фракции, первые из них это отсылка на контракт варс. До переработанных (по факту перекрашенных) моделек они были одеты именно в такого цвета и формы одежду
The legacy device allows you to bring your friends into a raid midraid you invite friends with it and you can have a whole group of players join you midraid to help you i dont know if they popup next to you tho cuz that would be wild
Bro tats I didn't even think about that. I was thinking they should have worked really hard to separate all the small things. Gloves, watches, shirts, jackets, pants, boots/shoes all separate all have a bunch of unique items from different militaries or brands or whatever and gun camos, attachment skins, all of that can be done and still feel in universe because of how many different camoflauge style and colors there are from all the different militaries of the world past and present. That way they have a monetization system similar to other games with all cosmetics.
BSG should refund all our purchases after 6 months. They only have "temporary" access to my money while they give me "temporary" access to the things they promised me when i made my purchase.
quick typed this out so fast while he was on the toilet , he couldn't even spell pocket SIZE correctly
i upgraded, but i wouldn’t mind if they sold for example quest completion on site
I've owned EoD since 2017.
I upgraded... do I not get the extra 20% ammo from traders? Do I not get the clothing or armband? Thats wild.
I have EOD and don't care about access to PVE. But I'm really concerned about all p2w stuff listed in new edition. Everything should be obtainable by players with all editions.
Exactly. I was always understanding EOD as a full game and standard is basically a demo. But suddenly you do not own full game. And if you pay those 120, are you sure you will own full game for more than a year before another edition? They should really make single player standalone and cheaper, more players would buy that probably than this overpriced p2w package.
I have alot if respect for you sticking to your guns and staying with EOD, this change is like putting a plaster over a leak. Its a temporary patch that doesnt stop the leaking and will gather more and more community resentment if it stays like this
I'm right there with you on the Pockets point Axel. Everyone should have the change to earn them. And these 6 months things are also very confusing and unnecessary. Either give it to people permanently (pve) or offer it to everyone as a single purchase option for a reasonable price. I don't know if Nikita himself approved the whole thing or someone else convinced him that it was a good decision. But there was far too much focus on the profit margin than on the good relationship between player and developer.
And why are they thinking, that there will be larger profit from this than a lot of sold copies of 30 eur single player? New players cant even afford this and never will buy it
@@restoreleader I share the opinion that many small supply options would bring BSG more money in the long run. But it's not the first time we've seen this approach in this or other industries. I am not a financial expert who works in a company like BSG and therefore knows the market, but apparently it is worthwhile from a financial point of view. It's a classic ''income>community'', like investors who put pressure on companies and therefore publish something half-baked.
The reason i bought the DLC was the stash space lol. But yea, the all future DLC still stands.
nothing like a good slap to the face 6 months only what a shame i have loved this game for so long i invested in so much for me and the kids that play tarkov yet here we are needing to spend another 140 to 150 bucks cad just to get what was promised in the first one and now we only get 6 months for each what a pain
I look forward to being apart of the class action suit.
Increased pocket size is only going to be worth while early game. If I have to do a quest line to unlock big pockets, by the time a typical player completes all those quests they won't need the extra space because they'll be running rigs and armour anyway.
this task line for the pockets , is this per wipe or a 1 off task line to complete but still total bs tho
Lmao BSG has shifted entirely from passionate game dev to money hungry business.
"yeah yeah we're selling out BUT because you cried loud enough we're going to postpone the selling out until 6 months from now"
No offense.. but they've been money hungry for the past 4 years, thats nothing new
Why do you think there's ALWAYS a big sale after every Ban wave? It's not coincidence..
They know their dumbass fans will eat up what they shit out
Mad respect for not buying it and holding that stance.
if you have EoD and you brought the new version do you get both bonuses?
Probably but it wouldn't be shocking if you didn't. Lol. Somehow you're no longer EOD just unheard. But back in the day right everything was uniformed and neat. One rung up the ladder you keep the stuff below edition while adding new edition stuff. Now they've done this weird thing so who knows logically it makes sense for you to get it all but then again...bsg isn't exactly known for logic.
@@FordFalcon54 The way it's stated, this is very clearly just for EOD.
This means that Unheard Edition owners will have longer queue times for 6-7 months
Yes you do
@@baka9473 Wrong. Nikita clearly stated this is only for EOD users. Read his post again.
@@AwesomeNuke I got all the bonuses of Unheard added to the ones of EoD. So you might be wrong
6:27 I was literally have that exact talk with my friends. If they want money, people will not hesitate to buy some badass looking skins. Maybe new character voices? Beards? Mustaches? Helmet reskins..? There is so many alternatives out there that would make them money. Just make a "STORE" page on the actual game so it's easily accessible to everyone. They would rack in so much money from that but instead they take option B which is to scam absolutely everyone and destroy their reputation in a day.
Whats that RGB Bar in his background anybody know?
Imagine all the potential players that would play EFT if there was a single player/coop mode in the game, but its behind a 250$ paywall...thats insane. Every game comes with a single player/coop mode/campaign but BSG does not and now its available at a very very high price. To put that into perspective, there is not a game in the history of gaming that came without a singleplayer and above all its locked behind a special edition at that cost.
why not all the community to make skins for the game. think how many different spec ops units are in the world. I would love to use a snow SAS camo outfit or a desert Delta force
I don’t understand how when I started playing Tarkov. I understood the quality of the games the fact that the game probably requires money to make. So I after just a week of playing on standard to see if I enjoyed the game jumped to buy EOD strictly to indoctrinate myself in BSG to show I care about the development of the game. And as a reward we EOD got access to all dlc’s all future updates as we were the ones who allowed it to happen, we worked to pay the price to allow a video game to make content. And now we get stabbed in the back. I’m glad they’re continuing working on the game. But they’ve taken a step to far, I did the same thing for dark and darker. I stepped in and payed the full price for the game to allow the game to develop more. And they’re doing just that and making a fantastic game. They care about the. Community. They listen and fix things so fast and update based on what the player base wants.
I didn’t spend excess money just to be treated like I didn’t have a stake in the game. I know it sounds ignorant but all eod accounts like it or not payed the ultimate price on their time and purchase to assist BSG in a way. That’s how I see it anyways.. we played the game through rough patches and broken aspects. And it’s been fun. But now adding yet another price point has me concerned the game isn’t about making a great game anymore.
well if not even eod or unheard gets infnite high priority queue theres gonna be another edition
The 'quest' to get the pockets should also not be time-locked e.g. it should be a level 1 quest straight from the start, with minimal effort e.g. get 1 PMC kill and 5 scav kills or something. Otherwise it's still useless if it's locked behind level 20 or 30 since you need the pockets from the very start at level 1 most, and need it much less at higher levels (still very nice at high levels, but not as nice as low levels which are absolutely critical)
Axel I had a Question but nobody still ANswered me anywhere .... So, if this Unheard edition is not an DLC, so does that mean their owners will play on different servers among themselves without contesting with us ...if there is not such servers so why this is not DLC ...because the things giving for those money are not COMPETETIVE anymore is pay to win advantage...
There is only one acceptable solution.
Give everything from the Unheard Edition to EoD Owners and give Unheard Owners Arena.
anything else (even reducing the price for the upgrade to one CENT) is not discussable and unacceptable.
That is not possible sadly. That would put them in even more legal troubles. Arena isn't worth 100$
And dont expect them to come up with any kind of refund process.. When I changed my email address about 3 years ago, it literally took their support team over 7 weeks to complete the process
lol, you're in for some disappointment if you think they'll do anything close to that.
We got scammed, but when the person buys the Unheard edition with EOD edition what happens to his ID ? Will the crown remain and will u get the contect from both the editions ? Cuz I think they didnt think about this. And its money grind
Nice video and message. Its a shame Nikkita is doing this to the veterans who support the game from the start
sooo they already have a system for priority matching? I wonder why they would make that in the first place....
They've had it for a while.. You know, for Streamers during drops events and things like that..
Maybe made a prime or season pass idk, it's okay to pay 10 byt month for access to prenioum matching (with good anticheat - time queu reduce, idk) but cmon not p2w
Great, so with anything below EOD we are stuck in low priority matching unless we pay like 250 bucks for that ridiculous Unheard Edition? Nikita must be chronically drunk
The only thing I am salty is the priority queue. This is a huge pain with Tarkov, and knowing that as a EOD gamer, I will not have access to priority queue pisses me off. If I knew it I would have stayed with standard account because I do not care about the stash space, I do not care about the gear and the gamma container either. But I bought EOD to support the game I love, and today, I kinda regret it.
OK so can I downgrade back to my EOD account so that I can get the EOD stuff. or will I get that as well because I was an EOD account holder?
Nope, you're probably fucked.
Anyone buying this yesterday was kinda dumb, with all due respect.
Its literally like trying to buy a TV, during a riot, from a guy who just pillaged it from the store in front of you after breaking the window.
Also, I hope you're ready for longer queue times for 6+ months, as 75% of the players, who own EOD, get priotized Matchmaking before you
i saw/know of almost no streamers (at least that i follow) who bought this ... and that makes me insanely happy
I haven't payed much attention to the on-going situation, but I've been an avid Tarkov player for 4 years now. I currently don't have available to me what specifically EoD edition gave, but it always seemed to me like it was a "supporter" tier upgrade, where you could support BSG by giving them money for additional bonuses. Sure, BSG did state it came with future DLC for free and whatnot. And we've gotten Arena for free and that's an entire game mode! There's still the other originally planned DLC coming that we're still getting no? Again, not payed much attention to this and I do agree that the way BSG is handling this is wrong and I dislike that unique gameplay function the unheard edition gets, nothing gameplay altering should be locked behind a paywall.
But I don't see why people are complaining about the offline co-op. As per BSG's site, you can literally get the Co-op upgrade for 10€ regardless of what edition you currently have. I have played this game for 4 years now, and gotten my moneys worth of entertainment. I'm not going to buy the unheard edition simply because of how pricey it is (considering I've all ready given them $150 for EoD), but despite this I'm more then willing to pay a 5-10$ subscription to play a game I like on a monthly basis. And if I was interested in the PvE mode, I'd easily pay 10€ for that. You don't need the unheard edition to get access to it. So even if 6 months doesn't seem like much, it's enough for you to try it out and if you dislike it? Just don't pay 10 dollars for it.
I know BSG has been very scummy with their promises (or lack thereof) lately, and the way they are trying to get more 'financial support' is just done in such a backwards way. But I do understand the need to generate revenue, but this is clearly not the right direction to take.
I totally agree instead of doing this kind of scams and totally losing our loyalty. They can take our money buy cosmetics, skins. I would also buy
Pretty sure if EOD users got the same stuff as the unheard edition, we would be happy. At this point, they may as well just do that and save face while they can before they dig further into the ground and bring the unheard edition price range down to around what EOD was.
the fact that scare the most is that the more you spend the more unique features you have in game, i know it also happened with EOD and gamma but you could still get epsylon and eventually kappa so the EOD just gave you the possibility to skip a lot of annoying stuffs like the small stash, grinding more for traders, small early wipe pouch but that you could still overcome as a standard edition player.
Now they are just telling us that the more you spend on the game the more stuff you will have access too, truly disgusting
They gotta do more.
The fact that unheard edition gets m80 and an SR-25 at beginning of wipe is stupidly broken
how are standard account supposed to compete with the EOD acount now...
i feel like nakita meant eod for owners who have had eod for more than 6 months......................maybe im wrong!
It sucks that the PvE mode is locked behind a special edition of EoT, I'm interested in the game for it's mechanics but I don't want the PvP, when I saw The Unheard Ediiton at first I was excited but I don't get why it has to be sold as a premium edition.
They should have added this to eod then make a new same eod version at $180 with the same container but different skin for anyone that missed out eod
Kinda the last straw for me, I doubt I'll come back next wipe.
The free DLC's are stated to be at full 1.0 game release on the website. I guess we're still in "beta" so we have no comeback.
I would love to see actual tarkov competition but nothing on the horizon is coming close
Gray Zone looks solid, Arena Breakout looked decent for a completely new game too (will be free 2 play, I already signed up for the beta in 2 weeks)
Rolling back Unheard really is the only way to fix this. Get rid of the pay to win features and give the rest of the stuff to EOD.
the damage to their reputation has been done imo, i was 100% gonna buy tarkov once they released wipeless servers but now i'm never paying for the game and sticking to SPT.
What about our unique secure container? Its not unique anymore now the new edition gets it, they edited the page for it to remove the word after the new release.
so we spent what kuje 180$ or something for every future DLC and the limtied stuff from EOD and they are limiting the stuff we get and we didnt even get the clothing they added for free or the stash slots which i also think is kinda dumb but idk just me like yeah its not a DLC but hte clothing has literally been in the game and its not new
well.. to be 100% honest with you, I didnt play tarkov for quite a long time now, except once where i was pretty smashed and started an offline raid xD
but here is the thing, I once loved this game and I was thinking it will be one of the best games so far, in general. years have passed, I kept track of patch notes over all this time, watched streamers at least once or twice a week.. yes, its hard to have an opinion because I just didnt play it for a long time but the point is, since inertia was added, i stopped playing. thats roughly almost 3 years ago I think. and I have the feeling it got even worse since then.
I bought Eod many years ago and the fact that they come up with a new and "better" version for such a high price, is just ridiculous. I feel like thats coming because they've spent way too much money on arena, a mode that iimho, almost nobody asked for. people are waiting for a release of the game in a stable, playable and fun way. this just aint it and I will stay away from it until they change their direction. as far as i can judge it gray zone warfare seems to do a lot of things, much better. but thats just my opinion, and i know, nobody cares about it. but lets be real, I think I am not the only one who thinks like that :D
dont let them take your money for this bullshit :)
have a nice weekend and thanks for your videos axel, you are amazing!
Only reason I bought eod is because I was promised everything henceforth from purchase I even have the original email from 2017 still.
See this is where I gets so muddy in my opinion. So for example, you buy EOD, then upgrade, should you also get some of these perks? Because now you’ve technically bought both at some point and you aren’t getting the other stuff you technically paid for to begin with? I know that sounds dumb but this is why they need to just stop releasing more versions. Like I know my friends that bought unheard are going to be pissed that they aren’t able to get the outfits and some of those features even though they spent more money on they game at this point. From their perspective it’s not about paying to win, but paying to support a game they love, but as an extension they aren’t going to get some of the features that the versions that cost less money are able to get? Idk it all just seems weird.
It has become abundantly clear that BSG is experiencing some financial difficulties. This is due to the unpopular game mode 'Arena' and the removal of the best package edition 'EOD'. As a result, they are scrambling for funds. Axel, I completely agree with you. I wish that BSG had invested some time in skins and clothing. As an EOD owner, I am not upset or angry, but rather frustrated."
I feel if the flare for calling your whole friends list to save you mid fight and the item that makes scavs not target you from over 60m wouldn't have been a thing, and the PVE mode given to everyone , this wouldn't have been as big of a deal. Idk how they don't count an entire new mode as DLC but yet count Arena which is literally that. Then they went and doubled down on everything on social media, watched Lvndmark's stream, and actively edited the wording on the website for EoD to remove words like "Unique" and the segment about Area and future DLC from it (I was there and in Lvndmark's vod you can see someone gift BSG a sub because they were in the stream and then all of the website changes happened.). That just makes you look terrible and like you're acknowledging what you did by trying to cover your tracks. I have 2 timmy friends that have already bought it and it kills me but I suppose since they are new and haven't played for the past eon, they don't feel as strongly as the rest of us about all of this or understand. Sigh, I'll prob end up still playing like Tony also said until something else comes along but man is this shit frustrating.
They removed mention of arena being free for EOD as well
@ResetInPeace oop I thought i put that in the rant. I guess i forgot my b
I am with you 100%. That and modest gun skins would print them money.
Bought EOD right before patch 12.0. I have avoided SPT in good faith that BSG would either add pve, or fix the broken aspects so pvp would be fun again. If they do not give me permanent access to pve progression I am dowloading SPT and Arena Breakout and never looking back.
Add a black pmc and British pmc voicelines for like $5 each and they'd sell tons. But they just to decided to all out
If they did cosmetics and hideout aesthetics as addons for purchase they would make money with compromising their initial promise or adding pay to win benefits in a “realism” focused game.
they said they are working on a new matchmaking queue system. hopefully EODs will get an early access and after 6 months it is expected to be a part of the whole playerbase. at least i hope that is the meaning. also hope the co op pve mode becomes purchasable for a price of 20-30 bucks for all accounts EOD or not. People may get a bit sad as EOD, but at least if you dont care about PVE mode you dont buy, if you do you can buy for a normal fee one off, and if you want to keep supporting you can buy the new edition.
You know what's not good? THe community asking for an EOD replacement (See pestily video 2 weeks ago) and when they give it to us, instead of the community saying "I dunno man can we talk about this?" Everyone freaks the fuck out. Like instantly turns it up to 11 screaming and crying and losing their minds as the FIRST reaction to this. THEN BSG says "alright, mea culpa, here's some stuff to make EOD not feel like we gave you the shaft, you're important to us" and AGAIN, the community goes "NO. YOU FUCKED US AGAIN."
Everyone needs to settle down. Maybe have a conversation with the guys. Pestily had a conversation with Nikita 2 weeks ago and in 2 weeks we have like HALF of the things he asked for. Hasn't that earned him ANY good will?
Also, this "DLC" argument - Before I say anything else - I believe we SHOULD be giving the PvE mode to EVERYONE for free, including WHITE names. Now that I've said that - Literally every single thing that's in the PVE mode is already in the game. Every. Sinlge. THing. The only new thing is that they've renamed raiders and they save your progression - both things, already in the game.
These guys are humans. They're not fucking robots. They went to sleep after the patch thinking "Cool, we gave the community something cool to replace EoD" and woke up to all EPIC amounts of hatred for their efforts.
Yes, I'm an EoD owner, and an alpha player. I'm not saying that they didn't fuck up, they did, but as a community, we're not exactly innocent here. There are other reactions.
Anything that costs money is DLC, otherwise what was the point of EOD? the only reason to pay more now was to not pay later when it comes down to it, that was the implication, what it boils down to is DLC was stuff you would have to pay for.
Hell, I don't care if they make a $800 edition of the game, as long as EOD people get everything as promised, that was the idea, we pay the big price in the beginning to support this beta games development and now stuff is getting released left right and centre and we are getting nothing.
When I bought EOD I was like, "ok its a lot but I already have a lot of hours and plan to keep playing and if they release CONTENT THAT COSTS MONEY then it will pay off."
There is this argument over what DLC is but really it is new content in the same game that you will have to pay to get, regardless of it being an assest that needs to be downloaded or if it is just recoding things already in the game so "technically" it isn't a download or whatever.
And honestly if they released new skins that you could only get through purchasing even with EOD I wouldn't have kicked up a fuss, I get they need money and a skin isn't a huge deal even though if I were the dev i would genuinely treat EOD players right, no more money forked out ever, you get everything, I would have removed EOD from the website sooner so less people had it, then release a few expensive DLCs, then down the track re-release EOD for a limited period when the studio needs an influx of cash.
Now for cash they are resorting to alienating us all.
As much as I love tarkov and would love to support their game by upgrading to the new edition. This sort of move will set a precedent for how they decide to monetize the game. What is to stop them from releasing another edition that supersedes the Unheard edition?
6:46 its because they dont have the recources to create a bunch of cosmetics. This was a quick cash grab that involved not much dev time. The new additions are really not that hard to make
I didn't even want new stuff or unique stuff for p2w tied to eod, i just want them to keep their word.
If EOD got the new content and also this was a new edition that replaced the old EOD that you can no longer purchase itd be scummy because p2w stuff but it'd be objectively less bad than it currently is by a lot
No apology either, what a life
You know you messed up your game when players react with “We would much rather have microtransactions than whatever the hell this is.”