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When youre stuck in a hole, just keep digging. Eventually you dig so far that you reach china
Then you play breakout arena lol
@@baroness0155 OOF xD
"true believers" will get cultist jacket lol, thats perfect, Unhinged edition buyers are real cultists
lol
I WANT MY JACKET
i hop they add this stims and other things to my edition sense i hade eod and upgraded it
yeah, im buying unhinged edition rn
Just the pocket perk is worth so much if you think about it.
PvE Mode should not cost more than 20$. That would make it a full price title when you have the standard edition
They could make true offline on your local machine for everyone and coop offline for a price.
none of it should cost any money
PvE and Arena should be included in the base game :)
@@bappo2693 it costs money for the people to play the game, be happy you don't have to pay for online like on consoles
@@kabalanstef9636 this is the only true answer that nobody listen too
The coupon thing is just as scummy as the original scam lol, they're refunding you 0 value because you can't do ANYTHING with that money and in theory shouldn't ever need or have to because of the fact EoD should be giving you all content anyway, they also seem to have avoided using the term DLC and used additions/expansions which makes me feel like they plan to move the goal posts yet again
Getting in store credit from the store that just scalped you on something you were supposed to get for free is wild lmao
I was going to spend the $ on a new uniform anyways.... they red my mind.
Just more pay to win "balances"...does nobody just enjoy the struggle anymore? Beginning of wipe is the best time, most agree as everyone's is fighting for scraps on an even playing field...every wipe players drop off as soon as everyone has decent kit. BSG are just speeding up the process>>>>Like who asked for these changes lol?
Agreed
Players drop off because *other people* get decent kits earlier than them, and it becomes problematic dealing with them. Not because they themselves get better kits.
Played with my standard edition for 3 wipes. It is how the game is meant to be played, all items have a use, the stash grind and lack of trader support is more natural. Brought EoD, played it for a month and hit 50. EZ game, pay to win. gg
they don't play their own game
It's a videogame, not a restaurant menu.
You don't ask anything, you play it if you like it or you don't play it.
As soon as you spend millions creating and developing a videogame for seven years, you will chose whatever you want.
Videogames are like art, that's why they should be created by the artist and not by your "asking".
“Coupon” for Expansions and Content 😂 You mean DLC that you already paid for?
To be fair if anyone bought the unheard edition they deserve that lol
stash lines and clothes? And I guess there will be more cosmetics in the future
Wtf am I suppose to do with a coupon? Buy clothes I can unlock for free?
Imagin having a 5 man group all calling in a BTR on Factory.
kind of missing the point here, the BRT is not implemented in other maps, only on woods and streets. And the BTR is already in the map so it means it will come to the stop closest to you
already done that th-cam.com/video/uSJkafJNnp0/w-d-xo.html
@@armandominottiyou are making a lot of assumptions in that opinion.... no one asked for a btr to be on speed dial, no one asked for the ability for someone to find a colored card and immediately call in a cheater to wipe the raid so they can leave with it.... no one asked for a headstart on skills.... these changes will kill tarkov. It will literally be cheaters and the people who pay cheaters if these dumb ideas are implemented
@@armandominotti I was joking, although who knows with BSG.
@@CheatersHaveSmollPPyou too are making a lot of assumptions, whe don't know the details of this, dont be reactionary, he could be on the mark, and it would be an interesting feature.
I don’t want a BTR, I want the game to work :[
the game work perfectly on my pc 200 fps + :) have a good day i love the BTR idea , will be usefull on street and woods !
the thing i like about tarkov over dayz and rust is that once i kill someone they cant come back, this flare dhit is dumb af
so on top of unheard benefits they also get these EOD benefits?
The faster insurance return is just like having a bigger stash to me, if i die with a SR-25 and my lvl 4-6 armor....etc and my friends are able to hide it and i come back into the next raid or the next day using same type of gun/gear the person i kill isn't going to know or care that i just killed him with a gun i got back in insurance from a day ago or one i just bought and put together.
In a game with no AT weapons or capabilities, we bring in a light APC.
There aren't any words for the stupidity. Actually, I can think of one; "Nikita"
Special Not-a-DLC Operation
So those who bought unheard edition ontop of the EOD edition will they get the same benefits as EOD ?
yes sir ! confirmed by a mod from discord
so we get a 50 dollar coupon for stuff we should get for free as an eod owner? so basically 50 bucks i cant use? or shouldn't have to use? can it be used on cosmetics and extra stash space?
yes on future cosmetic u be able to use it
the pve mod is shit anyways... go with the spt.aki.....
literally. anyone playing nikitas garbage pve mode thrown together and legitmately thinking he'll tweak it to be better is full delsuional and stupid.
They said they'll add mod support. Whatever that means. Spt is indeed a lot of fun even for experienced players if you run sain
Agree. But the SPT might get a "cease and decease" because the offline progression is locked behind a paywall. Which mean SPT unironically pirating it.
My Level 50 spt acc...
I dont know why people say 250$ for this edition. The unheard edition cost 250$ if you buy as a brand new player without the game. I have eod, if i want to upgrade to the unheard edition, it will cost 47.50$ before taxes.
they changed the prices after so many complaints, the upgrade from eod to unheard initially cost 100$, only now it costs half the price (and still, it's expensive)
yeah and most of the player base own EOD already , they just FOMO into the drama
@@nasjon2969 Nah, BSG straight up lied to all EoD by not including the additional content as they promised. This is straight up robbery and scummy behavior.
Another question. Do those benefits stack? For example I own EoD. So if i buy unheard i am theoretically an owner of all editions there are. So do I also get all the benefits there are?
yes
@@strahinjamijovic7125 so if you got eod and upgrade to unheard and then also buy the stash extension and finished the quest line one or two wipes agonto get more stah-space…
You start with about 10x90 stash space, cases and a shitton of weapons and money. Also are able to buy more stuff on restock, get additional hideout stuff etc.
Feels kinda out of balance, even without the p2w items. Because with ex eod, you can now call in friends and the btr😂
@@strahinjamijovic7125 so if you had eod and upgrade. Also finished the quest line a while back and bought the extension to get more stash space, you start with about 10x90 stash space. Also good gear, cases and a million roubles. Higher buying limit, more hideout stuff and the ability to call in friends and the btr.
Sounds little unbalanced ngl😅
I think they should just remove all p2w aspects from the game (including my EoD edition) for the next wipe have everyone start with the same stuff. just give us eod owners and the unheard edition users a bunch of special skins maybe glove skins or wrist watches etc and remove our containers.
Right now they have an Co-Op upgrade on the expansions page for $10, and from what I've heard it's NOT the PvE expansion but just the ability to go in a practice raid with a friend, I almost purchased it thinking that's what I was getting, honestly that's all I really want right now, bit over the PvP mode right now
Yes, thats been there for 3-4 wipes now. Was added as a 10$ purchase back when it was given to EoD owners
honestly funny its even a sold thing. its such a useless feature especially now with pve offline. regular offline there is 0 point to get on it unless you learn a new map on day 1
Just get spt 😅
Pve is inside your PC. It uses no server bandwidth. Just like the training, practice mode. It gathers Intel from the map then everything else is just in the pc.
This is not true, you que on a BSG server to play this mode
Why would the performance be so much better on PVE vs offline practice? 8700K 3080 & 32gb ram. Not the best. But i see a huge performance increase on the PVE & PVP modes vs normal offline with no progression. Maybe its a me thing.
The server is absolutely doing less work in a single player game vs multiplayer. It only has to update your client with the changes happening in the game, not ever other player clients and at some point player scav clients too in a match
I hope that the BTR call in is simply calling the BTR to the closest stop it has next to your location bc I can't see any other way the "legacy" item would be balanced, I also don't see how maps without the BTR already on them would work.
Thats the thing, people are reactionary they don't wahit to think this day and age, im by no means defending bsg bur people just jump to conclusions.
the btr will be able to be use on street and wodd , it will be use as a emergency extract with high cooddown !
Insurance return I can see that as not pay 2 win because it doesn't affect combat in raid. A bit borderline but way better than a freaking radio to call you buddies during a raid or protection from sniper scavs.
You're right, it's the least important of the changes, but it still is an advantage that people pay for.
The truth is Tarkov's always been P2W, EOD was P2W and it's becoming more so.
People are jumping the gun to claim “pay 2 win” on so many items.
It is by definition p2w. Anything that gives you an advantage by you spending money, is p2w. My EoD edition of the game, is p2w. And I am fine with the devs removing everything from it if they wanted to start over. No trader rep boost, no better starting items, no gamma container, no increased stash space. Just as long as everybody starts the same, I think the game would be better off. Aslong as I get all DLC and keep my gold name etc and maybe skins in replace of my "p2w" stuff I would be happy.
Yes but anything that doesn't give you an advantage during the raid during the combat isn't pay2win...in my opinion. A bigger gamma container isn't going to stop me from getting a bullet in my head from someone. Magic protection from scavs though is a problem as well as that radio that calls in backup? I don't think giving all those items to everyone in the community solves the problem as per today's announcements from BSG. You're right in the respect that BSG seems to be veering away from the hardcore concept.@@Krugmatik
@@olternaut yes you are 100% right! I was just saying that by definition it is p2w but for sure the game itself is a "skill issue" still since yes gamma container wont do anything for us in combat. I heard the magic protection from scavs is PVE only...? I think? But yes I agree with you I think we are mostly on the same page.
Does unheard edition buyer get EoD perks as well or EoD remains special?
EoD is unique
@@jeremymcadam7400LMAO
The new stim will be a wall hack/Xray vision injector to even the playing field with the cheaters. 😂
at this rate we will have 10 editions before "release"
Escape From Tarkov: Unreleased Edition
Will people who upgraded from Eod to unheared get rewards from both editions ?
Yes
After 5 times overlooking this reddit post, i think, that any edition beside EOD have an advantage in regard to stash space. If you upgrade all the way up to max + get all stash expansions + the 2 lines... than all editions than the EOD have more space.
Have you ever had a base account and tried to upgrade stash space? That's not very realistic at all
@@og_ratchetllamma8534 i think this guy is talking about spending irl money to increase stash size as if any sane person would ever spend like 40bucks for virtual space lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is the stash for pve completely separate from normal?
yes
So I have a question here I have EOD but I have bought the unheard edition for the PVE mode for early access. I guess you can say what I still have/getting access to the EOD perks as well, considering I’ve bought it in the past?
Doesn't matter, only fix will say we fucking lied, tried to hide it - so now EOD has all access like we promised. Sorry about that.
if this items will be add in end-game quest lightkeeper - its still p2w, coz Unheard edition users can use it in early wipe
Ofc it will be loghtkeeper 😂 its bsg after all
So if I upgraded to unheard from EOD. Which dog tag do I have? What if I want my gold one instead of the unheard one?
Then you should not upgrade. Pretty straightforward?
@@AwesomeNukeyou’re a asshole. Pretty straightforward?
@@AwesomeNuke not knowing the answer to that question isn't a reason to not upgrade. Also this wasn't listed from the beginning so what if you already upgraded?
@@wesmorris3529 if you already upgraded, welcome to the club of literally every player getting scammed. Pick a number and wait in line
u get both
i like that when its your pc or discord notification you say it so i dont get aids trying to find it
If i had eod and i upgraded to unheard will i get all those eod features like dogtag, clothing, armband etc? or only the unheard stuff
You should get everything. Just call Nikita and ask if you're giving him all that money
joemamma
@@Chunkyl0ve8 "All that money" 50 euros...🤣
Yes, you will get it, it was announced on the Russian discord channel
@@didntask4284 if you give him 250 for garbage you should get at least one phone a friend
is anyone else having issues with the launcher it just goes blank
When will this be actioned?
you can only call BTR on woods and streets
Yes I saw it in woods 😱💩
Isn't PVE Mode under Extensions and cost 10 Dollar? Or ist that something different?
no progression saved
What about the cheaters that are able to get into your pve raids? (once you invited a friend, your session is open and cheaters can choose on what servers they connect)
So what
Better than cheating in online lobbies😂
Just leave the raid and start another with your friend
I think that the 330€ unheared Edition was offered without arena is totally offensive.
If that's your biggest gripe..
If I upgrade from eod tho to unheard do I lose my eod benifits???????
probably, thats why they're making unheard and EOD more simmilar i think.
@@jakesynx stupid
so are eod owners still getting every dlc? if not i would say a class action lawsuit should be in the works....
Supposedly yes, although if they actually go through with the changes they are mentioning i think you will see a downward spike in playerbase as it will give people even more of a reason to cheat or pay for a subscription to have cheaters on your friends list to come clear a raid for you......
Yeah game is fucking dogshit and bsg likes cheaters
yes sir
Any idea when the PvE mode comes to EoD players?
I laughed super loud when u said pve mode 60$ 😂😂
my question is okay, so I didn't buy EOD because it has been removed ALL WIPE and now that I want to get a MORE EXPENSIVE EDITION, I get almost the same if not just few items called OP while some of yall who bought EOD YEARS AGO want to get EVERYTHING, how is THAT fair wtf
i am not sure about faster insurance returns and increased purchase limits increase being p2w cuz all of it barely affects pvp experience in game, just feels like some qol features
as a person who upgraded from eod i would like to have the eod edition clothes. make it a seprate thing. unheard darkness edition. dont even want anything from eod just the cosmetics as a former owner
Would be hilarious if the locked the pockets and stuff behind lightkeeper
I’ve done 1 quest this wipe and it was by mistake…I just play for pvp not progression
And you pvp with naked SKS? 😂😅
10-15 min wait tome now for pve , what will happen wen more people are in?
That's insane for an offline game
Honestly different skins or colors for rigs and armor would be huge and not so much pay to win say you can make a tv110 black or green kinda like how rust does it has the same functionality as the base game rig just a color change just nothing outrages like pink or neon colors. And say you kill a person wearing a different colored rig now they have it in that color would honestly make the game all that more fun and make fights memorable. Like picking up a brown paca and being like yeah I remember that fight
Are you able to match with randoms in the PVE mode?
No
@@AwesomeNuke might as well stick to spt then. none of my friends are gonna pay extra for the official version.
@@Red_Lion2000 Just play SPT Co-op, thats what I'm doing. Works pretty much flawlessly
@@AwesomeNuke I've tried it, the problem is that one person needs to always run the server, so we can only play when that person is online and so on.
But yea i'll just stick to that anyway, I have eod but my friends and I arent giving a penny to BSG.
one question if someone here knows it
what if someone upgrades from eod to unheard do you still get the bonusses theyre giving eod players
You don't upgrade to unhinged in the first place. But as much as Nikita is lying and flip flopping, this is pretty much roulette
Yes
Also curious about this...
@@rebel4466 its just a question
@@BloodyGamingReviews ok ty
so no wipe/no wipe options that i believe we were promised for base/PvPvE game ?? i was waiting for it from the start !!
Instead of the 2 lines it will be better a junk box
nah the whole point of the first day is getting a junk box
@@spook4762 oh? Why does unhinged get a junkbox for free then? And a weapons case? And an ammo case? 😅😅😅
@@Schimml0rd they spent 250 dollars on this game like losers let have it😂
Axel with the Nord Win 11 color theme. Love it. Looks just like mine xD
Faster insurance return is not pay to win, pay to win is giving a clear advantage over the rest after buying something u getting ur shit back does make u any more likely to kill someone then the last time
pay to win is any form of advantage, no matter how small. EOD already was pay2win, it's just more pronounced now
I want only one feature to team up with people based on server location
Is there anyone else that didn’t want any of the new items or felt the game didn’t need them? I understand the need to make money for BSG, because running servers, anticheat, updates, fixes etc. etc. is not free and those things are going to be needed for as long as the game is being played. In my opinion they could have added unheard with gamma, some new clothes and access to arena and Pve for the same price as EoD was sold for and also added PvE to EoD. After release they should just go with a subscription model and selling clothes and PvE mode separately in the store, because without a subscription model they will need to add these new versions once in a while for the game to stay afloat
Honestly, the insurance return time could be 5 days and I wouldn't care, I have to buy more stuff every time I die anyways and half of it is gone😂
they're just ruining this game lmao
I dont know if this is a bug or something but i keep losing rep as a pmc in PvE mode for killing scavs!
Because you are using the new item, mark of the unheard.
@Haglegnomen Really?
Damn that's a bit shit-
Well I guess I'm gonna have to not use it anymore-
Yeah, it really was a troll item, I don't think most people read the full description before hosting on it. You need more than 6 fence rep for it to work against scavs aggro, and you lose 0,5 rep for each scavs kill with it equipped.
@@Haglegnomen Damn-
No wonder my scav karma went from 0.70 to 0.20 😅
lovely spawn the btr with the eod stuff pay half price with the unheard unique,needed more pay 2 win mechs
I really like the idea of calling the BTR, yet it should not be implemented in such a simple way.
It should be heavily restricted as to how often you can use the feature - maybe you get the "device" at the start with a few uses, and in order to unlock the option to buy more charges you need to finish the same questline as everybody else, only you are saved the cost of buying the device. Additional sound signal or a flare could be used as an indicator that the BTR enters the map - let's say it honks somewhat like the armored train when it enters the map, and again when it leaves - and a flare is fired by the caller, so that there is risk to using the item, same as with calling an airdrop.
Calling your PMC friends should either be moved to PvE only, or guarantee that they spawn as far away from you as possible, and some notification is given to all players that somebody joined the raid that way; blocking it so that it can only be used after some time into the raid would be good as well - let's say, you can only use it after 20-30 minutes or something.
I believe that these features can actually be balanced in a way that makes sense, they can make it work I am sure, the only question is if they want to. Also it would be great to get more options (ONLY THROUGH QUESTS) to increase your pocket size, so that the Unheard advantage can actually only matter at the start, becoming obsolete later into the wipe.
It does say at the bottom that all other editions can earn pocket space the mark of the unheard and the legacy device. No clue if those quest will be doable but they are there
@@og_ratchetllamma8534 yeah i noticed that, I meant that they could as well add some more options for even larger pockets, that could be obtained exclusively via quests, by all editions. This would reduce the impact of those Unheard pockets in the long run and would even the playing field a bit later in the wipe
5 things BSG should do before they try anything like this again
- Ask Axel his opinion
- Listen to Axel
- Fight with Axel
- Listen to Axel
- ... that's all
Too late! Already switched to SPT and loving it😁 So I will be online with EoD when ever I feel to play online and SPT for my “PvE” exp😁 No more money for BSG🤑
increased PMC Karma doesn´t tell anything. If i look at the people, than i don´t know, how to increase it or decrease it (other than exit camping). Maybe i fell that secrue, that i get it down even faster than all other editions and than getting hunted.
Also, if every edition gets the Mark of the Unheard, the "distress signal device and the legacy device, than it is like usual, you get it eventually over time. Would i call the BTR all the time? No. It take time to get the BTR here.
the pmc karma is not in the game yet, and it is not for players to see in game. you can maybe see it in their profile but it will be a game mechanic as Nikita said, there will be a boss hunting players with bad karma and there will be good perks for good karma probably. so we just have to wait and see when its in the game :)
idk if they said something recently and i missed it, but i hope they take away priority matchmaking too cus thats really stupid that players with standard and even up to EOD editions will all have a less priority matchmaking...
Yes, they said it will not be a thing anymore
@@ustopia5199 good I'm glad they decided to do that, ty for response
The people they call in should be "Scavs" that you cant transfer items to main.
“We don’t want more P2W”
“Okay here’s more P2W but for more people”
Absolute BSG moment
This
crazy to me how that's the solution they come up with, they could just randomly select a suggestion from a 1 upvote reddit comment and it would somehow end up being better than whatever they're coming up with.
I mean, the amount of people buying into EOD (which has p2w aspects) probably told them people want more not less
if everyone have access to it how is it pw2 ? and u have no idea how those thing will work lol
@@jjr5233 TRUE haha thank you for having a brain
6:15 i don't understand why they don't just do a skin system like other games-- paid cosmetics that whales can buy if they play enough but no real effect on gameplay mechanics. The pay to win shit is really weird to see from a game who's audience despises any p2w mechanics
Why is people falling to this "cant handle capacity for PvE". You cant play PvP version and PvE version at the same time. Therefore, there is not increase to capacity.
He's on having extra health or an indefinite supply of AP rounds or armor would be paid to win and none of this other shit Is pay to win.
The respawn beacon just makes zero sense all around like what is the point of it besides calling in a cheater to bail you out
Well im pretty sure at this point they are either the cheat dev and the game dev or they are actively selling soirce code.... either way this bullshit of 3 months or so between banwaves for cheats thay should be easily detected is fucking dumb.
@@CheatersHaveSmollPP good name bro. Tbh the 1st thing that came to my head when I heard of the flea slots and other shit was. Oh yeah this is a game copy for the cheaters/rmt guys to buy. Nikita thought we would just not buy it and forget, but the fans be a cruel mistress Tokis...a cruel mistress
Im eod. When announced initially i had pve mode selling for 10 pounds
I mean, they had on website
no progression saved
they gave everything to EoD. Now Unheard edition has nothing ...
Increased personal trader purchase limits by 20% is pay to win.
now i feel like, the guys who bought the Unheard edition got scammed. All "unique" items aren't unique anymore, and the perks they gave those looser were nerfed 3 days after release.
The thing with this stuff is, is EOD owners don’t care about the P2W features we “weren’t getting”. Most of us don’t want ANY P2W features for anyone and are more than happy with what we already have and have had since pretty much launch.
We want access to all feature content without paying for it. It’s that simple. That’s what we paid for years ago and that’s what we expect. No one cares if “they won’t make more money that way”. It was a promise made and should be kept.
Get rid of these new P2W features, we don’t want them (please don’t take my gamma though) and do your best to make the game balanced for all profile types, BSG.
Damn...i was kinda pissed that people were saying that nobody should play tarkov to boycot the game even people who already payed for it but this actually makes me not log in anymore. If the game goes into this direction fuck em...
Surprised took you this long to realize that
BSG doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand that we are pissed off because they promised us that the EOD version would be the highest and best version with which we would never have to pay for upcoming content again. Now they bring out a better version and degrade us. To make matters worse, they change the description of the EOD version on the website after the fact, which is illegal and disgusting. That's the problem.
Every developer is doing the same thing in terms of the DLC, releasing things and calling it not DLC, its been happening for years.
The direction of changes is very good, but it's a pity that there will be great distaste at the beginning. Unfortunately, the community's trust in the studio cannot be rebuilt to the same level as it was before the SHITstorm that the studio itself did.
i mean.... its not bad... some stuff in there is in there and they want opinions, weather they listen to our opinions is another story but.. from where we was.. to where we are now.. that sounds great to me...
Okay if people who upgraded from EoD to Unheard don't get that feature it would be another scam.
Man like wtf are they thinking at this point hahahah
Vodkavodkavodka
yay, everyone complained and now i get to change my name color and icon. now you get to see my name in a new color when you kill me Smile
fight p2w with more p2w :( i dont want this shit man. atleast the 60m+ thing is gone, but why in gods name would i want a friendly BTR
Unheard should be able to spawn it also, paying more money and not getting it hmm
50 dollar coupong for unheard and eor ?!?!?! They will get every dlc for free no!?! Then nothing you can buy with that no?!!?
No
the pve mode should not cost more than the base game itself.
So I don't believe the increase buy limit or the insurance return rates are really P2W items....with the change to how traders all have limits for each player, it's not like EOD owners are suddenly taking 20 extra bullets out of the pool for everyone, and just because you have the good bullets doesn't mean you're at an advantage due to ratting or sniping. And the quicker insurance simply means you get your kits back faster, but doesn't put you above others in battle cause it would almost be like you saved up then bougut that kit again. Everything else however is P2W trash and I want it gone
I can't see the pve being better than modded spt
They should just remove and refund unheard, add EoD back to the store (apologising and stating that they feel its better to keep it), remove p2w shit like bigger pockets and just LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY
And after that all is good? No thanks...
@@kasauerkrautimgulasch no, that's why I ended it on listen to the community...?
They can't give a 50 dollar coupon, they have to refund all those people. That is illegal. They can't change it without refunding everyone first. That is illegal
yeah go ask grayzone to refund those bonus edition!! good luck
nikita cant say sorry because all he wants is the money money moneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. he wants bugatti,balenciaga and moneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Who else is enjoying Gray Zone Warfare?
Now theyre trying to suck our (eod users') balls but still neglecting the fact that its pay to win/advantage! Fucking rewrite the whole thing! I dont mind getting alpha container as eod. We all grind for kappa anyway!
Removing Insurance and everything will be (real)