Most people aren't like them gay, trans or whatever... Because most have experienced adversity other than the self battle of identity. They have no values outside of their identity while most people with whatever identity they have, actually have values and those values align with most people so they never act like these Devs do... It's almost like they are edging to the feedback.
The difference between you and these woke people is that you are completely sure about your identity but these people are not confused about their identity, they confuse others as well
This honestly makes me so sad. I loved the Dragon Age series; how they ruined it with Veilguard just hurts. Did I really have to wait 10 years just for this crap?
Same. As a long time DA fan (and I'm talking like, I ADORE Dragon Age) seeing them shovel out this slop and ruin something I love so much has just absolutely broken my heart 😭😭
Same. Exactly the same. Right now my plan is to run a tabletop game replacing veigaurd entirely. I mean I cant do worse. And solas deserves to be a terrifhing campain boss
I've always been a DA:O die hard fan. Every release they make I always play and finish. Some are worse than the others IMO. But I still stick by it. And I was really hoping this release was Ganna be it. The one that will be LIKE DA:O. But it's the opposite. Nothing like the game or even its previous predecessors. I guess it will never happen. And am sure as hell ain't playing this woke game. I'm done with these franchise.
I've been struggling with this as well- was watching another TH-camr play Origins again, and when they got to Duncans death scene, my break was taken away, as it always is, even all these years later. We'll never see *that* Bioware again, and it sucks man.
It's just so baffling that the usual suspects like Schreier, Grayson etc still haven't learned a single thing after about fifteen years of them being in the industry as "journalists". Even after the thunderstorm of 2014 they caused, they still publicly hold up their extremist opinions and yell at people over the internet.
It's when you try to push woke... Down peoples throats who don't want it. It's like how people tell Christians.. keep their Jesus. Well the gays can keep their trans. It's not necessary. It's not necessary to put modern terms in a game that reflects a fantasy period in fantasy world that probably would have taken place 10,000 yrs ago. Inquisition is woke. Mass Effect 3 is woke. Bayonetta is woke AF. It's about giving the people what they want... Not what the studio wants. Nintendo is the only company that can do that. And you are correct... The writing and not only the art style of the models suck.... The environments are pretty.
@@ademirc5937 BG3 is progressive and diverse but it isn't what many consider 'woke' today. When many people say 'woke' now they are referring to preachy and heavy-handed ideologically-driven dialogue and messaging about current-day social issues. For example, BG3 has plenty of lgbt npcs and Tav/Durge can even be trans, but not once does Tav/Durge have to discuss Shart's damn pronouns with her or be lectured about how to apologize for "misgendering" someone. Those issues could've been written like Shakespeare and the sermonizing of it all would still be out of place and obnoxious, not to mention, also immersion-breaking.
@@ademirc5937 "Woke" is simply the political/culture war built around weaponising/exploiting gender identity for control & cringe. During the previous edition of the culture war, no one really cared about which sky god people worshipped. It was not the presence of people who held such beliefs, but the extremists and politically motivated who (once again) were demanding people respect and obey their magical thinking. Prior to this we had the "red scare". And so on, and on.... Now we're probably due for another red scare.
@@Maruun1986And I still have no idea what they meant by it. Out of all three sequels, this game is the LEAST similar to Origins. Two companions (DA2 and DAI had three), only 3 ability slots (DA2 had 10 and DAI had 8), NO tactical view, NO direct control of companions, NO lasting rivalries between companions, and NO killing companions or pissing them off enough that they'll leave. So, in what fucking way was Failguard a "return"?!
Yeah when I saw the 'return to form' reviews I knew they were full of it. We had already been told that companions were no longer controllable and world states didn't carry over. I thought, how on earth then could the game be a 'return to form'? It made no sense.
Well, it’s not a live service game. I agree with all of the issues that it’s had, but gauging a regular 30 hour single player game that isn’t live service on how many player it retains is kinda pointless
@@itman9000BG3 says hello, over a year after it's full release it's more popular than ever. I know it's more than 30 hours but so is Veilguard from what I've seen(haven't played it myself as a longtime DA fan) it's single player with no micro transactions and it's also not a live service.
So in short, Board members woke up like an old gods from their slumber, shit on CEOs, CEOs shit on top managers, top managers shit on middle managers and middle managers told their people to shut up about politics and go please players, becuase they are loosing money due to praising wokeness. I love free market :)
What a insane company. The are "investigating" who leaked sales/play data??? Talk about missing the point... Find the people that created this mess and allowed it to be published and fire them. That's going to fix the problem.
Gary McKay, the General Manager of Bioware from 2021 onward, who fired 50 senior staff, including Mary Kirby, who made Merrill, Varric, and Loghain. The EA management is utterly incompetent and don't understand anything about the gaming industry... and it shows.
@chanm01 ...as every company with more than 10 employees does on a regular basis. The economy with its (inexistent for the wealthy) rules and regulations is to blame.
And it's been reported that one of the higher-ups has said the team that made DAV are now working on ME5. If that is the case then they have learnt nothing and ME5 is cooked.
@@MjollTheLioness-o4y Calling it now, it's going to be trash. If I'm wrong, I invite everyone to pile on and never let me hear the end of it. I'll cop it gladly!
They hate that THEIR undeniable proof has been exposed (their numbers), despite people not being blind to the already decaying pile of slop we've experienced. They've lied about everything so far and have straight faced everything to this point, but numbers are the ultimate truth when it comes to business.
This is what happens when you tailor a much beloved franchise to a tiny percentage of the population and bubble wrap every character and interaction so that none of said tiny percentage get offended. I don't play an RPG to be lectured like I'm attending a class on modern identity politics and social justice. Too many modern terms were thrown out and broke immersion and I hated being forced to play a cookie cutter cut out bland protagonist surrounded by equally bland characters. We had Tevinter with next to no slavery, or pay off for the stories about how horrible we were told it was and none of the dark grit, black humor, moral dilemmas and freedom to choose that I have come to expect from DA. All in all it felt designed to be as inoffensive as possible which is ironically its greatest offense.
Adding to that, it rendered every single choice we've made as players in the prior three DA games effectively pointless because the rest of Thedas gets nuked by the blight in the background. Actually spitting on the face of loyal fans with that one.
@@RGxRnova Right! If they really wanted to go the way of this Blight being truly catastrophic, that's okay, but let us play it out. Let us try to fight, let us be there to see how everything fell. The fact an event that was the entire antagonist in Dragon Age Origins is some background thing that just happens now.
That’s different! Taash can’t help that they just adopted a new identity 5 seconds after hearing about it from Maevaris! Emmrich CHOSE to be born a mage in Nevarra! … wait.
Honestly, kinda accurate to many people I've met. They demand respect and recognition of their choices while have none for anyone else. For such people like the character Taash, it's okay to be discriminatory.
This is why I'm sad GameInformer died. They were the only magazine I personally actively looked out for when it came to came reviews because to me, they seemed genuine about them. And even so I still read them with an open mind until I got the chance to watch or play the games myself. It's just so frustrating that nowadays mediocrity is promoted vs actually objectively informing the audience.
We, Dragon Age fans and lovers, deserve The Veilguard to be UNreleased and wiped from stores and existence. Then they need to 'clean up' Bioware from these hacktivist twats. Hire Dragon Age fans and let them create the Dreadwolf game we all hoped for since the teaser from 2020-ish? That first one with the art and music only. The one that promised a followup to Trespasser. We deserve this Veilturd to be deleted from existence and receive a true followup to Trespasser 😢😂
Id get behind this 100%. Im not going to ever buy Veilguard unless it goes on a super deep sale. But I want a true successor to a Dragonage game, I know Veilguard is just milking the franchise's name. I do see some poeple claim it's okay, but not as a Dragonage game.
@@Skullogk I've seen enough to prevent me from touching it. No fun companions is no fun at all. Enemies look goofy. Classes are all over the place with skills. Warrior might as well be branded the mage class 😂 And most of all the DEI ruined submersion and robbed the established fantasyraces of their identity. I first thought on a deep sale maybe. But I don't think I will be supporting this at all. Decent backlog and there other stuff coming out maybe. And if not I would rather buy something else in between through sales 😅
I think it even would have worked, make a funny skit (if they're even capable of that) or something where it was all something Varric had written and he says it was his worst book ever, but that would entail they actually swallow their pride and admit they ruined it. Then proceed with the story directly following Trespasser or something, I'd accept it. it used to be my favourite franchise
Last great game was ME2. ME3 and DA2 were good but marred more by EA's demands and the crunch timeline than other factors, but everything after that has been hot garbage.
As fans of the dragon age series. We waited for a sequel 10 years in the making after the end of Inquisition ( end of the trespasser DLC in that juicy cliffhanger ending) when at the time dragon age dread wolf was announced, we all were excited and anticipating facing off against solas as the main antagonist in the next installment in the series. We all know how that turned out. We're all pretty aware of how this game crashed and burned ignited by being all woked up. As a long time dragon age fan, I've run through the entire rainbow of emotions over how sad and wasted our anticipation for the next installment is. while I'm all for inclusivity for everyone, I would never wish for that message to be shoved in anybody's face or down their throats. What really broke my heart is how the developers of fail guard disregarded the choices we made over the previous three games. They completely ignored the time, energy, and emotion we put into making those choices. And the icing on that toxic cake, in fail guard in game lore The entire southern half of thedas was completely wiped out by the blight, including years of History, culture, and characters we have grown to know and love. I flat out disavow this game! To me I'm just going to call this mistake of a game a chaotic alternate reality far far away and our beloved Thedas as we know it in both the North and South are fine. And solas is stll planning in secret as we know it.
That's why I got to the point that I couldnt play anymore. All those choices that made you feel involved in the world it was set in ignored. Also the lecturing, I play games to escape the woke insanity not to be lectured about. I have to say wokeness is starting to make people intolerant when they were accepting. The woke assume that everyone but the woke are bigoted. I'm going before I start ranting about how much I hate wokeness and how divisive that mindset is.
The problem isn't fighting the Evanuris. The problem are the terrible characters writing and design and not including all the previous characters like hawke the architect oghren Cole iron bull etc and instead include terrible characters.with terrible design like the qunari and they fkin.killed.off varric early on too.
As a fan of the Dragon Age series, I waited 10+ years for a sequel after DA2. Inquisition is where the series truly began deviating from the original, dismantling lore, and injecting woke Taash and Failguard is the culmination of what they started there
Danm! Imagine what a shit show Veilguard has been, that I even forgot the title got rewritten. I totally forgot it used to be called Dreadwolf. I remember saying it was gonna be bad the moment they changed the title of the game. Look at it now.
You're all about inclusivity for everyone, but you're crying about having a single transgender side character, of which that totally optional dialogue amounts to maybe, MAYBE 10 minutes over the course of a 100+ hour game? Let me get this straight to make sure I'm not losing my fucking mind- you're complaining about DRAGON AGE, a series from a developer known for pushing gender fluidity since origins and the original mass effect, in a genre full of MAKE BELIEVE characters that allow you to ROLE play fantasy races with gender fluid characteristics (male elves are known to have more feminine forms and demeanor, female dwarves more masculine form and demeanor, etc.), having a single transgender companion and allowing you to play more totally optional roles? And you're saying that with a straight face? The sheer number of you guys that have went straight to believing what you're hearing on the internet while simultaneously and unironically saying you shouldn't trust what you hear on the internet, should absolutely be studied by future generations. WEVE BEEN HAVING GENDER FLUIDITY IN GAMES SINCE THE FIRST GAME EVER GAMED. The creators put pieces of themselves in games, as is their right and as with anything else, as they are making the game. Bg3 is some of the most trans shit on the planet. Literally much more severe than veilguard, in a different dimension, even. I literally can't man. I'm sitting here laughing uncontrollably at the absurdity of it all. The best part is that you guys can't even see your indoctrination taking place. You guys are so concerned with your own politics that you're willing to place them above literally everything else, even reality. It doesn't matter if what you're saying is objectively false. It's a game people, games should be judged on how fun they are, not politics. It's such an absurd notion to someone like me that's been playing games for 30 years, that it kind of feels strange to even type out. I'm a straight redneck raised in the hills of Kentucky, and far as I'm concerned there's 2 genders. I don't give a shit about that stuff. I want my games to be fun, and veilguard absolutely delivered on that end. Was it as good as origins? No, but definitely better than the other two. Now, I'm sure people will either avoid all the points I've brought up, go straight to insults, cry about my post being "too long", or just avoid me altogether, as with how it happens for most people who start to make sense, but I just couldn't help myself.
Worse. It's not just a wolf in sheep's clothing, but a wolf that fully believes its a sheep even as its gorging upon the flock it claims to be part of. As I always say, those who think they can't be evil are capable of the greatest evils.
@humrH2360 yep. These people actually believe they are being morally virtuous. As C.S. Lewis said, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Seriously. I was expecting to see it there just because of it being woke propaganda. I'm truly shocked that it wasn't. It doesn't deserve GOTY at all of course, but I was sure the corrupt process would force it there anyway. Maybe there really is hope
The salt on the wound when trading in Veilguard is that the terminology says "Up to $14.00" Key word being --> " Up to " Meaning that the best case scenario is $14.00 It could actually be alot less due to the influx of returns coming in.
Dragon Age as a franchise was made for people who want deep, character-driven fantasy that deals with tough issues like betrayal, revenge, slavery, oppression, and racism. Veilguard was made for tumblr babies who want to sit around talking about their feelings and watching porn.
Veilguard selling 1 million copies isn't impressive, even if its true. Stellar Blade, a brand new IP from a lesser known dev team (unless you play mobile games) also sold 1 million copies. And it was only available on one platform instead of three. The Dragon Age fan in me wanted this game to succeed, but after playing it myself (for free 🏴☠) I'm happy to see it crumble. Don't get em wrong, Dragon Age has always been "left leaning" because Bioware is a left leaning company. Gay characters have existed since the first game, but it was never like this. This isn't Dragon Age, this is someone's thinly veiled attempt to admonish gamers for not being woke enough. Despite the fact that most gamers are pretty inclusive. Preachy propaganda bullshit.
Yup. There’s always been LGBT themes in many of their games. But it never beat you over the head. And the writing was incredible. But all the talent left.
A character before could be LGBT, it was a characteristic, not ALL of his or her personality. And even with this, they didn't have to be good people, of straight morals, they could have emotional, moral conflicts, arguments with others in the party. Zevran every time Wynne tried to reach out to him, he would make jokes because he doesn't like to be known. Leliana also tries to understand Morrigan and Sten, but the first one does not let her and the second one is... A Qunari.
@@TheLadyKemet You could reject Zevran's advances in DA:O if you weren't into that sort of thing, if it was made today that would be seen as intolerant and bigoted and suddenly you're thrown into into some gay relationship without even noticing that it was getting to that point (looking at you BG3). Can't even form friendships in these game.
I hate to be a pessimist but things aren't gonna change in time (if at all) for the next Mass Effect. They're gonna make Andromeda look like a masterpiece.
How many millions do these jokers have to lose before they finally give us a proper ass video game. If Saber can do it with Space Marine 2 so can EA and Ubisoft.
Their heads are so far up their ass that they can't possibly course correct because their brain worms won't let them. They will keep doub ling and tripling down and continue to call gamers bigots for not liking their drivel.
To be fair, Veilguard was fairly nominated for _Best Accessibility_ and if it doesn't win it's proof the awards are a scam. The reason I said this is because Veilguard's puzzles are a breakthrough in Game Design: The managed to make them so braindead obvious even Skyrim's Nordic ruins _match the pictures_ puzzles seem like the _Tower of Hanoi_ in comparison, to the point I'm convinced they can be completed by a fella that has his frontal lobe missing.
Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Brian wrote a book and was later given an award by some group and was invited to speak with them, only to find out that it was just a bunch of special needs students. Their teacher then explained that Brian's writing was SO BASIC that even those mentally-challenged kids could understand it.
I'ma barber and if all my clients started say oi bro your haircuts are shit. I'd go oh fuck and I'd do whatever I had to to do better cuts. I wouldn't attack and gaslight my clients, which are my source of income. Ppl just want a good product/service.
Crazy to see an internal investigation over this. Bigger IP's have leaks nearly every week, usually about entire new games or updates, and I've never heard of them investigating it.
Cuz leak of further plan can be a good marketing, and can be source of feedback before releasing leaked planned content But this leak about the company internal blunder and tension, helps nothing and even potentially worsen sales and image Not that it could go any worse
The worst part about all of this is that constantly pushing out bad games for the sake of rep only creates animosity towards those groups they're trying to champion. To be fair a lot of the TIMs involved are gross misogynists anyway so good riddance.
You would think they would realize all people have nuance and bias when writing a character who doesn't like to be told who she/they/taash.. is, simultaneously showing her ignorance and bias against necromancers, constantly talking trash on him, making him seem like the weird one that should be looked down upon by society. Even thems have their biases and have trouble following their safe space rules.
It's not "woke", it's just trash! BioWare has always been a proponent of diversity and equal rights for everyone, but in the past they still managed to create believable and immersive games and stories. This is just ridiculous and although the main story was written okayish, the rest of the dialogues and quests were a new low for the recent BioWare games...
i mean congratulations, you just described a major issue with most woke games. Instead of the nuanced politics and characters of a game like DA:O, woke games use hamfisted writing to write complex issues in a way that sounds preachy and patronising. Like the Devs are using their characters and themes as a soapbox to stand on and tell the player how morally "correct" the devs and company are. Or you've got the second brand of woke games, that being the corporate box checking type, which are sort of ironic because they come across as kinda racist sometimes. See AC: Shadows for that kind. If you still drink the "they just hate diversity" cool aid, i dont know what else to tell ya
@@declancampbell1277 My point was, that being woke is not the issue here, but only the bad writing. The problems have nothing to do with wokeness, but only bad writers and stupid studio heads, who don't wanna take any risks and appeal to everyone. The same thing happens also in games that are not "woke".
I think it's okay. Grouping people up just because of a few idiots is stupid. These devs need to realize they don't speak on everyone's behalf as much as they think they do. Their take is obsolete.
Outside of playstation anyway. As much praise as playstation gets, I can't believe people don't complain more about their refund policies. Steam truly does it best. You get to refund a game within 2 hours of playtime.
Does everyone remember that scene with Dorian? When we go to see the “family retainer” and it turns out it was his father instead? Everyone remember how soul crushing that was and how hard it is to watch? That’s how you touch on a real life subject. It wasn’t in our face all the time. It’s something we can remember and apply to real life while being entertained. What Dragon Age Wokeguard is the exact opposite.
They should admit that: 0) have 0 idea about graphics 1) They threw the lore into garbage 2) have no idea to write story/characters 3) or build puzzles 4) or a game flow 5) have no idea what actually sells
7:45 I would like to point out something important here. They *think* they are appealing to a wider and broader audience, but the fact is, the "modern audience" they're trying to appeal to doesn't exist. That's why these games are failing and facing so much backlash. Because the people they're appealing to are not part of the majority, or a wider and broader audience, they represent a negligible fraction. AAA devs love money more than anything, so they need to realize that alienating the majority for the sake of a miniscule vocal minority is not going to work. It's ridiculous that this even needs to be explained to them.
All this talk of too woke? The issue with this game is much simpler, poor characters, both in writing and in character creation. Lack of Player agency, to play the way that we want to play. And trying to pass this off as a Role Playing Game, when it is abundantly clear that it is in fact a Visual novel with minor role play flavour.
And the reason for poor character development, writing, lack of agency and 'passing things off' as things they aren't IS the woke agenda. How do you not understand that at this point? Good writing ALWAYS acknowledges balance. It acknowledges that reality is grey and almost never black and white. That's what a good character IS, one who has multiple aspects to their character, like real people. Wokeness is the ultimate form of gaslighting. When I was very young, I had a cousin my age and a cousin 3 years younger. The younger cousin was spoilt and got whatever she wanted. When my cousin and I wanted to play games and would really start to enjoy ourselves, she would get jealous, want the attention and be envious of our fun. We were then forced to include her by adults, where she ruined 100% of fun was ever happening. She caused resentment towards herself and totally robbed my cousin and I of good imaginative fun. That's what woke is.
They lied about Lucanis too. He was meant to be the bisexual 'disaster', ended up being a writer's ship with an npc. His romance with your character is non-existent, locked out completely if you choose the wrong option so early in the game, you don't even know until the third act.
I suppose it's true.. go woke, go broke. No disrespect to the trans community, but words like "non-binary" have no business being in a fantasy roll playing game. It's a modern-day term that completely smashes any attempt at emersion. Even if they were hell bent on bringing the topic into an RPG world, it could have/should have been done without using a modern, politically correct term. They may as well have been discussing graphics cards or hydro electric power plants. Taash destroyed the game for me to the point where I am ashamed to even admit there were points in the game I enjoyed. I will not replay the game ..ever.
I now use the options on TH-cam, Google App and so on to ignore these legacy media companies. "Not Interested" - "Don't Recommend" - "Don't Show Content From ***" are quickly becoming some of my favourite options. This is what everyone should do if they really want to hit them were it hurts, don't engage with them at all, refuse to give them hits on their site, in search results, on TH-cam, everywhere. Reduce their traffic as much as possible.
I'm noticing a *Disturbing* trend recently..... Mass Effect: Andromeda, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, Saints Row (Reboot), DA: Veilguard....all these games seem to have the SAME PROBLEMS, IPs of popular franchises that spend YEARS in "development" only to release with atrocious dialogue, half baked story/plot points, numerous bugs/glitches, unlikable NPCs, etc smh Where does it End?! 😢
I would have more respect for them if they just held strong and kept saying it was great. This move only servers to show just how spineless these people are. They would abandon the audience they spent years courting just to farm both sides of the story. They have shown, with this move, that they have no loyalty to any one group or ideology, proving that they are literally only in it for the clicks, rage filled clicks. Deplorable manipulations from a decrepit media soon to wallow in the pits of obscurity.
The funny part is that you can absolutely make a top tier AAA game and have it be representative of the trans or LBGTQ+ community. Your main character could be a purple unicorn who flies around shitting happiness and self identifies as a toaster. Nobody would care so long as the STORY is good. You can't just throw these characters in there to check some imaginary box. Forced characters always stick out like a sore thumb. IF you have this great character and have them being trans or gay or whatever else as a natural part of their development it works fine, it also shouldn't be their defining characteristic. A gay person's whole life isnt about being gay. They are a person with their own hopes and dreams and goals. Them being gay should just be on facet of an entire spectrum of things that make up that character. If you have this companion character for the entire game and you go through all sorts of crazy shit with them and survive and at the end of the story you come back home and get off the ship and the whole community is there and low and behold you see this character you've never seen before run up to that companion and give them a big ol sloppy kiss and they just so happen to be the same gender, I promise you if the character was well written and acted you're probably going to get a HAH out of the player and they will think nothing less of the companion because they were such a great character. Being part of the rainbow people isn't a way of life. Its simply a facet of their lives. If developers would start treating these characters like characters and stop over focusing on whats going on in their fucking pants they might just realize that its entirely possible to make a great game and still have the representation the modern world requires.
I love Dragon Age and no matter how many people hated it I loved Inquisition it brought me back to the good ol Origin... The veilguard on the other hand had such a great buildup and good villains to be fair like the old elven gods was even teased since origin and finally having a chance to duke it out with them just to be served with disastrous writing is such a blasphemy... Veilguard tried to pull a DA2 but failed the delivery so badly the only good aspect of the game is the combat that's it the combat is not even challenging like why create a parry system when spamming dodge and roll is all you need without a stamina bar you are immortal and one more good this is the dialogue with Solas in the fade atleast you can be an ass to him instead of the dialog with others where it limits you to only be a good guy... also forcing out "i'm non binary" in a medieval fantasy games is fucking hilarious the game had embraced same gender romance for decades and you just had to made it worse in veilguard... this game is just a clownfest that I won't even defend... I defended Inquisition like my life depends on it this one sorry I take a step back... Also why the heck the character look more like a fable game instead of Dragon Age...
big part of this problem is idiot youtubers who play it and indulges this woke propaganda saying that game is great if you dont look into the lore. American mind is too rotten with all of this bs, honestly.
As a die hard fan of dragon age. If they had pulled the game and decided to redo it, I would wait. But instead they open an investigation on something the public already knew/would have found out later anyways…unbelievable. Just shows what matters most to them now.
Dragon Age fan here and I'm also a Farming Simulator player. Guess what I bought and what I didn't. I predicted, FS25 will crush DAV, but it would have been more hyped if Assassin's Creed Shadows had released as early access on November 12th as it was planned. FS25 would have crushed that too. Anyway, FS25 celebrated yesterday, 2 million copies sold after the first week. So more than DAV, Concord and Star Wars Outlaws combined. :D
“They” need to ask director one question.What was in your head when you decide to turn 18+ adult rpg which was full Of injustice with which player fight ,full Of philosophic ideas to Disney tale,where everybody” safe”.If the answer is money?i am glad they feel pain right now,it is very good,now they will learn and grow.because real world base on failure and how you deal with it,it is not rainbow pony world and never will be.
Hopefully Bethesda won't make same mistake with ES6 with results from all these sorts on things with indusrty. That is only if the lead writers are fired.
I swear this age of gaming is the equivalent to the 12 year old teenage girl (woke companies ) throwing a temper tantrum saying she will run away and the parents (gamers) saying "There's the door" , only for her to come back 1 day later after she ran out of nail polish or something and backtracking / acting like it never happened the next day. Thankfully out of nowhere comes doom slayer on that same day and beheads the teenage girl with his chainsaw shield while riding a dragon shooting demon skulls to the sound of djent.
The worst thing is that there is no way to save it even as a game. It is worse than Andromeda, but much, much worse. I don't know what they wanted to do here, well, even they don't know, it started as a single, then as a service game for mobile (and it still shows) then multi, then single again...
If you made the unfortunate decision to buy this game, consider leaving a negative review on Steam to help others avoid the same mistake. By the way, the game currently has a 71% rating on Steam, down from 78%. If we can lower it to 69%, the overall rating will shift from 'Positive' to 'Mixed
There is no way that devs are getting a 70% cut of any game sale. If it's sold on steam then Steam takes 30% if its sold for Xbox then Microsoft is taking 30% (or paying them to put it on game pass) if it's sold for Playstation then Sony is taking 30%. Epic game store takes a smaller cut and so does GOG but lets be real those store fronts make up maybe 2% of game sales at best. So no matter what system it's being played on there is 30% coming off the top by default. That's before retail and distributor cuts for physical copies and then you still have the publisher that's going to pay themselves back their costs for funding the game first then still take 50-60% of whatever is left after the game starts being profitable. In a best case scenario the people who actually make a game get like 30-40% and Veilguard is certainly not the best case scenario.
I got permanently banned on Steam's The Veilguard forums for speaking the truth about how horrible this game is. Bioware is extremely butthurt right now. They only have Patrick weeks to blame for this.. I hope Bioware publicly apologies to their fans and fires Weeks over the failure of the FAILEDguard.
I played hundreds of hours of DA. I love the storyline and the characters, but now that I've heard a lot of negative reviews saying they focused too much on gameplay and that the story is very lacking, I don't feel like buying it. I don't want to get my heart broken. I love DA, and it's so hard to accept that this is happening and this is not what I was expecting. The biggest disappointment for me is the character design. DAI did very well with character customization, but the body proportions are very odd, and I hate them so much.
What a tragedy. Dragon age origins was and forever will be a masterpiece in my eyes. It was a product of love and labor, made by a dedicated team that cared about one thing and one thing only: making a game that's fun to play, has an engaging story and features unique characters. No one gate a f**k about politics or "gender identity", Bioware gave us bangers after bangers such as Baldur's gate ,Mass effect, Jade empire and many more, what went wrong?!?!
Being woke is not even the problem. If you played long enough, you will realize that their dialogues dont make sense sometimes. Its like two AI talking to each othet
Having played 100 hours to complete the game. I liked it. I didn't find anything being forced. The Trans and NB aspects were nice to see, but it was never a main aspect in my playthtough. I understood the story, got the references for the older games, and enjoyed the companion quests. I don't see what's wrong. If I missed something, please inform me.
I so happy they only sale 1mil copys, and i hope more youtubers will not play this piece of shit with woke propaganda,studios like bioware should delete yourself from gaming industry
Love it. Let's start an investigation into the leaker of the sales numbers instead of an investigation over the many, many bad decisions in the actual game. Seriously, top surgery scars? WTF has that got to do with a fantasy game? I don't even play RPGs or Dragon Age, but it's so obviously a lecture session first, game second.
Exactly the same situation as the sequel Star Wars "trilogy". Instead of putting these established, beloved, and generally well constructed IP's in the hands of competent, skilled, and source driven people... No... they chose the ones who screamed the loudest and pined for a self-insert fan fiction on par with the writing of the Twilight series or worse.
Honestly, this isn’t Dragon Age. This should have been a new game and that’s that. It is unacceptable to destroy a whole franchise like that. The whole story of DA was thrown out in the garbage. Characters like Isabella, who used to have tits, don’t have tits anymore. Characters like Morrigan, who had a specific personality, don’t have that personality anymore. “Who doesn’t like dragons”, in an apocalyptic world, huh. The fact that I am obliged to suffer while listening to their dialogues… I won’t even mention the push up scene anymore. And even toddlers could have made better romance dialogues. It doesn’t matter that the combat system is good. Because in all of the other regards, this game is a total mess. We’ve had Fernando with his existential problem in DA:Inquisition, a good written story and it made sense. I’ll stop to that. You can’t compare Fernando’s story to the stories of the characters in Veilguard. :)
To be fair Farming Simulator is a very popular franchise, I am not surprised it surpassed Veilguard to be honest, even if Veilguard was actually good, which clearly is not the case.
Bioware: Who do we need to fire!? How about anyone with blue hair, has pronouns in their bio, and isn't an actual fan of the original story... Also you can tell no one finds any of the characters attractive cause there's no adult art of the characters, meanwhile I remember Iron Bull got a ton of art of him before the game was even released.
It makes me laugh the woke journos stuck by outlaws and that was in alot worse state, but with da 'it's like 'Rats deserting a 'sinking stinking, ship🫢 'RATS being the operative word! See how quick they turn on each other 'that's how loyal they are to each other 🙂↔️
On the steam page it only shows that the game is coated in great reviews, but if you head down the page and click to see all 24,000 reviews made, All it shows are people's poor recommendations that all have thousands of helpful tags. Do you think steam is hiding them?
All the major gaming "news/review" companies are a part of the overall mainstream media. I usually go opposite of whatever IGN says when picking games.
Your channel should be much bigger than it currently is. Great coverage, clean delivery, slick studio setup, nice video edits, personable. I'm a new fan. Keep up the good work.
Game journalists are just another version of a very common personality trait in our day and age. Offended by everything, yet ashamed of nothing. changing their mind about reviews, and bullying other games like Black myth Wukong because they wouldn't pay sweet baby inc 6 million dollars to literally ruin their game.
sometimes i hate being gay because i get lumped in with these people lol
Same. These guys are beyond nuts.
Most people aren't like them gay, trans or whatever... Because most have experienced adversity other than the self battle of identity.
They have no values outside of their identity while most people with whatever identity they have, actually have values and those values align with most people so they never act like these Devs do... It's almost like they are edging to the feedback.
That's what i've been saying 😩
You are a militant? If not, you are with us, the GAMERS
The difference between you and these woke people is that you are completely sure about your identity but these people are not confused about their identity, they confuse others as well
This honestly makes me so sad. I loved the Dragon Age series; how they ruined it with Veilguard just hurts. Did I really have to wait 10 years just for this crap?
Same. As a long time DA fan (and I'm talking like, I ADORE Dragon Age) seeing them shovel out this slop and ruin something I love so much has just absolutely broken my heart 😭😭
Same. Exactly the same. Right now my plan is to run a tabletop game replacing veigaurd entirely. I mean I cant do worse. And solas deserves to be a terrifhing campain boss
I've always been a DA:O die hard fan. Every release they make I always play and finish. Some are worse than the others IMO. But I still stick by it. And I was really hoping this release was Ganna be it. The one that will be LIKE DA:O. But it's the opposite. Nothing like the game or even its previous predecessors. I guess it will never happen. And am sure as hell ain't playing this woke game. I'm done with these franchise.
I've been struggling with this as well- was watching another TH-camr play Origins again, and when they got to Duncans death scene, my break was taken away, as it always is, even all these years later.
We'll never see *that* Bioware again, and it sucks man.
You need to be lectured.
“This games not for you, if you don’t like it don’t buy it”
Me: Say less 👌🏽
This exactly
The good old EA strategy.
Always works great :D
Too late I already remember exactly all the scores these grifters tried to give it and I will remind anyone who brings up the topic
It's just so baffling that the usual suspects like Schreier, Grayson etc still haven't learned a single thing after about fifteen years of them being in the industry as "journalists". Even after the thunderstorm of 2014 they caused, they still publicly hold up their extremist opinions and yell at people over the internet.
It isn't the wokeness that is the problem, it's the awful writing.
BG3 is woke af and it is the game of the generation.
It's when you try to push woke... Down peoples throats who don't want it. It's like how people tell Christians.. keep their Jesus. Well the gays can keep their trans. It's not necessary. It's not necessary to put modern terms in a game that reflects a fantasy period in fantasy world that probably would have taken place 10,000 yrs ago. Inquisition is woke. Mass Effect 3 is woke. Bayonetta is woke AF. It's about giving the people what they want... Not what the studio wants. Nintendo is the only company that can do that. And you are correct... The writing and not only the art style of the models suck.... The environments are pretty.
@@ademirc5937 BG3 is progressive and diverse but it isn't what many consider 'woke' today. When many people say 'woke' now they are referring to preachy and heavy-handed ideologically-driven dialogue and messaging about current-day social issues.
For example, BG3 has plenty of lgbt npcs and Tav/Durge can even be trans, but not once does Tav/Durge have to discuss Shart's damn pronouns with her or be lectured about how to apologize for "misgendering" someone. Those issues could've been written like Shakespeare and the sermonizing of it all would still be out of place and obnoxious, not to mention, also immersion-breaking.
@@ademirc5937 "Woke" is simply the political/culture war built around weaponising/exploiting gender identity for control & cringe.
During the previous edition of the culture war, no one really cared about which sky god people worshipped. It was not the presence of people who held such beliefs, but the extremists and politically motivated who (once again) were demanding people respect and obey their magical thinking.
Prior to this we had the "red scare". And so on, and on....
Now we're probably due for another red scare.
But I thought Veilguard was a "return to form" for Bioware 😂
Yeah everybody talked about the "return to form" like a marketing mantra...
@@Maruun1986And I still have no idea what they meant by it. Out of all three sequels, this game is the LEAST similar to Origins. Two companions (DA2 and DAI had three), only 3 ability slots (DA2 had 10 and DAI had 8), NO tactical view, NO direct control of companions, NO lasting rivalries between companions, and NO killing companions or pissing them off enough that they'll leave. So, in what fucking way was Failguard a "return"?!
It's a return to Bioware's new form, aka nothing but Ls.
Yeah when I saw the 'return to form' reviews I knew they were full of it. We had already been told that companions were no longer controllable and world states didn't carry over. I thought, how on earth then could the game be a 'return to form'? It made no sense.
"oh no no no they got this all wrong, must've been a typo, it's Return to Store"
This is not a game. It's an ideological soapbox disguised as a game, and those early reviewers are part of the problem.
And to think I got banned for saying "100k peak players isn't good on a $150 mil budget"
Well, it’s not a live service game. I agree with all of the issues that it’s had, but gauging a regular 30 hour single player game that isn’t live service on how many player it retains is kinda pointless
@@itman9000BG3 says hello, over a year after it's full release it's more popular than ever. I know it's more than 30 hours but so is Veilguard from what I've seen(haven't played it myself as a longtime DA fan) it's single player with no micro transactions and it's also not a live service.
@@itman9000 You're wrong.
@@itman9000 Bro it has 40k peak players in last 10 days. 40k! Its a fucking disaster. Game is basically dead.
Not really, you compare it to other single player games, apples to apples@@itman9000
So in short, Board members woke up like an old gods from their slumber, shit on CEOs, CEOs shit on top managers, top managers shit on middle managers and middle managers told their people to shut up about politics and go please players, becuase they are loosing money due to praising wokeness. I love free market :)
What a insane company. The are "investigating" who leaked sales/play data??? Talk about missing the point...
Find the people that created this mess and allowed it to be published and fire them. That's going to fix the problem.
Gary McKay, the General Manager of Bioware from 2021 onward, who fired 50 senior staff, including Mary Kirby, who made Merrill, Varric, and Loghain. The EA management is utterly incompetent and don't understand anything about the gaming industry... and it shows.
This is exactly the problem in a nutshell. They're more invested in maintaining the facade than root causing the problems.
@chanm01 ...as every company with more than 10 employees does on a regular basis. The economy with its (inexistent for the wealthy) rules and regulations is to blame.
And it's been reported that one of the higher-ups has said the team that made DAV are now working on ME5. If that is the case then they have learnt nothing and ME5 is cooked.
@@MjollTheLioness-o4y Calling it now, it's going to be trash. If I'm wrong, I invite everyone to pile on and never let me hear the end of it. I'll cop it gladly!
Imagine the headache you could have avoided if you had only LISTENED TO PEOPLE!!!
The fact that they're mad about the leak and not the actual productivity explains everything.
They hate that THEIR undeniable proof has been exposed (their numbers), despite people not being blind to the already decaying pile of slop we've experienced.
They've lied about everything so far and have straight faced everything to this point, but numbers are the ultimate truth when it comes to business.
This is what happens when you tailor a much beloved franchise to a tiny percentage of the population and bubble wrap every character and interaction so that none of said tiny percentage get offended. I don't play an RPG to be lectured like I'm attending a class on modern identity politics and social justice. Too many modern terms were thrown out and broke immersion and I hated being forced to play a cookie cutter cut out bland protagonist surrounded by equally bland characters. We had Tevinter with next to no slavery, or pay off for the stories about how horrible we were told it was and none of the dark grit, black humor, moral dilemmas and freedom to choose that I have come to expect from DA. All in all it felt designed to be as inoffensive as possible which is ironically its greatest offense.
experts estimate that approximately two percent of the global population identifies as transgender, gender-fluid, or non-binary xD
Adding to that, it rendered every single choice we've made as players in the prior three DA games effectively pointless because the rest of Thedas gets nuked by the blight in the background. Actually spitting on the face of loyal fans with that one.
@@RGxRnova They done did a Disney wipe away the old and replace it with the "New (gag) and improved" version.
I hope gothic 1 remake will not dissapointed at that point im excited to get insulted in a game xD
@@RGxRnova Right! If they really wanted to go the way of this Blight being truly catastrophic, that's okay, but let us play it out. Let us try to fight, let us be there to see how everything fell. The fact an event that was the entire antagonist in Dragon Age Origins is some background thing that just happens now.
Tasha: you need to call me they or do pushups.
Emmerich: uh, can you stop calling me Corpse guy? I go by Emmerich.
That’s different! Taash can’t help that they just adopted a new identity 5 seconds after hearing about it from Maevaris! Emmrich CHOSE to be born a mage in Nevarra!
… wait.
Or that she apparently calls him "Skullfucker."
Honestly, kinda accurate to many people I've met. They demand respect and recognition of their choices while have none for anyone else. For such people like the character Taash, it's okay to be discriminatory.
Imagine trusting ANY games journalism outlet in this day and age.
This is why I'm sad GameInformer died. They were the only magazine I personally actively looked out for when it came to came reviews because to me, they seemed genuine about them. And even so I still read them with an open mind until I got the chance to watch or play the games myself. It's just so frustrating that nowadays mediocrity is promoted vs actually objectively informing the audience.
We, Dragon Age fans and lovers, deserve The Veilguard to be UNreleased and wiped from stores and existence.
Then they need to 'clean up' Bioware from these hacktivist twats.
Hire Dragon Age fans and let them create the Dreadwolf game we all hoped for since the teaser from 2020-ish? That first one with the art and music only. The one that promised a followup to Trespasser.
We deserve this Veilturd to be deleted from existence and receive a true followup to Trespasser 😢😂
Id get behind this 100%.
Im not going to ever buy Veilguard unless it goes on a super deep sale. But I want a true successor to a Dragonage game, I know Veilguard is just milking the franchise's name. I do see some poeple claim it's okay, but not as a Dragonage game.
@@Skullogk I've seen enough to prevent me from touching it.
No fun companions is no fun at all.
Enemies look goofy.
Classes are all over the place with skills. Warrior might as well be branded the mage class 😂
And most of all the DEI ruined submersion and robbed the established fantasyraces of their identity.
I first thought on a deep sale maybe.
But I don't think I will be supporting this at all. Decent backlog and there other stuff coming out maybe.
And if not I would rather buy something else in between through sales 😅
I think it even would have worked, make a funny skit (if they're even capable of that) or something where it was all something Varric had written and he says it was his worst book ever, but that would entail they actually swallow their pride and admit they ruined it. Then proceed with the story directly following Trespasser or something, I'd accept it. it used to be my favourite franchise
If they do remake/rewrite they need to give those of is who handed over money for this hogwash gets a free copy of the new version.
I was a fan of Dragon age and Bioware,but after Andromeda was done with them.
same
I have mourned and burried Mass Effect with Androneda. We got a great trilogy and i am happy i got to play them.
At least Andromeda was fun to play, if you turn off your brain while playing, lol
Last great game was ME2. ME3 and DA2 were good but marred more by EA's demands and the crunch timeline than other factors, but everything after that has been hot garbage.
What's wrong with Andromeda? I played all 3 mass effect games and Andromeda and loved all of them.
As fans of the dragon age series. We waited for a sequel 10 years in the making after the end of Inquisition ( end of the trespasser DLC in that juicy cliffhanger ending) when at the time dragon age dread wolf was announced, we all were excited and anticipating facing off against solas as the main antagonist in the next installment in the series. We all know how that turned out. We're all pretty aware of how this game crashed and burned ignited by being all woked up. As a long time dragon age fan, I've run through the entire rainbow of emotions over how sad and wasted our anticipation for the next installment is. while I'm all for inclusivity for everyone, I would never wish for that message to be shoved in anybody's face or down their throats. What really broke my heart is how the developers of fail guard disregarded the choices we made over the previous three games. They completely ignored the time, energy, and emotion we put into making those choices. And the icing on that toxic cake, in fail guard in game lore The entire southern half of thedas was completely wiped out by the blight, including years of History, culture, and characters we have grown to know and love. I flat out disavow this game! To me I'm just going to call this mistake of a game a chaotic alternate reality far far away and our beloved Thedas as we know it in both the North and South are fine. And solas is stll planning in secret as we know it.
That's why I got to the point that I couldnt play anymore. All those choices that made you feel involved in the world it was set in ignored. Also the lecturing, I play games to escape the woke insanity not to be lectured about.
I have to say wokeness is starting to make people intolerant when they were accepting. The woke assume that everyone but the woke are bigoted. I'm going before I start ranting about how much I hate wokeness and how divisive that mindset is.
The problem isn't fighting the Evanuris.
The problem are the terrible characters writing and design and not including all the previous characters like hawke the architect oghren Cole iron bull etc and instead include terrible characters.with terrible design like the qunari and they fkin.killed.off varric early on too.
As a fan of the Dragon Age series, I waited 10+ years for a sequel after DA2. Inquisition is where the series truly began deviating from the original, dismantling lore, and injecting woke
Taash and Failguard is the culmination of what they started there
Danm!
Imagine what a shit show Veilguard has been, that I even forgot the title got rewritten. I totally forgot it used to be called Dreadwolf.
I remember saying it was gonna be bad the moment they changed the title of the game. Look at it now.
You're all about inclusivity for everyone, but you're crying about having a single transgender side character, of which that totally optional dialogue amounts to maybe, MAYBE 10 minutes over the course of a 100+ hour game? Let me get this straight to make sure I'm not losing my fucking mind- you're complaining about DRAGON AGE, a series from a developer known for pushing gender fluidity since origins and the original mass effect, in a genre full of MAKE BELIEVE characters that allow you to ROLE play fantasy races with gender fluid characteristics (male elves are known to have more feminine forms and demeanor, female dwarves more masculine form and demeanor, etc.), having a single transgender companion and allowing you to play more totally optional roles? And you're saying that with a straight face? The sheer number of you guys that have went straight to believing what you're hearing on the internet while simultaneously and unironically saying you shouldn't trust what you hear on the internet, should absolutely be studied by future generations. WEVE BEEN HAVING GENDER FLUIDITY IN GAMES SINCE THE FIRST GAME EVER GAMED. The creators put pieces of themselves in games, as is their right and as with anything else, as they are making the game. Bg3 is some of the most trans shit on the planet. Literally much more severe than veilguard, in a different dimension, even. I literally can't man. I'm sitting here laughing uncontrollably at the absurdity of it all. The best part is that you guys can't even see your indoctrination taking place. You guys are so concerned with your own politics that you're willing to place them above literally everything else, even reality. It doesn't matter if what you're saying is objectively false. It's a game people, games should be judged on how fun they are, not politics. It's such an absurd notion to someone like me that's been playing games for 30 years, that it kind of feels strange to even type out. I'm a straight redneck raised in the hills of Kentucky, and far as I'm concerned there's 2 genders. I don't give a shit about that stuff. I want my games to be fun, and veilguard absolutely delivered on that end. Was it as good as origins? No, but definitely better than the other two. Now, I'm sure people will either avoid all the points I've brought up, go straight to insults, cry about my post being "too long", or just avoid me altogether, as with how it happens for most people who start to make sense, but I just couldn't help myself.
Inclusivity. The wolf in sheep's clothing. An evil disguised as good.
Worse. It's not just a wolf in sheep's clothing, but a wolf that fully believes its a sheep even as its gorging upon the flock it claims to be part of.
As I always say, those who think they can't be evil are capable of the greatest evils.
@humrH2360 yep. These people actually believe they are being morally virtuous.
As C.S. Lewis said, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Its funny they claim inclusivity and equality while making nearly every bad guy in the game a white person lmao.
Puts the Dreadwolf to shame.
The Archdemon is a Labrador puppy compared to this wolf.
Fuck BioWare!
They're all evil. Spawns of satan.
I’m surprised, this game didn’t get more game of the year nominations with how corrupt the industry is
Thank God it didn't, that would have been horrendous.
Seriously. I was expecting to see it there just because of it being woke propaganda. I'm truly shocked that it wasn't. It doesn't deserve GOTY at all of course, but I was sure the corrupt process would force it there anyway.
Maybe there really is hope
@@karltech1012it shouldn't have even got a single nomination
@@jasonhuibers2315 Exactly!!
Veilguard should have received a Game Awards nom for Most Insufferable Lecture.
The salt on the wound when trading in Veilguard is that the terminology says "Up to $14.00"
Key word being --> " Up to "
Meaning that the best case scenario is $14.00
It could actually be alot less due to the influx of returns coming in.
Dragon Age as a franchise was made for people who want deep, character-driven fantasy that deals with tough issues like betrayal, revenge, slavery, oppression, and racism. Veilguard was made for tumblr babies who want to sit around talking about their feelings and watching porn.
Veilguard selling 1 million copies isn't impressive, even if its true. Stellar Blade, a brand new IP from a lesser known dev team (unless you play mobile games) also sold 1 million copies. And it was only available on one platform instead of three.
The Dragon Age fan in me wanted this game to succeed, but after playing it myself (for free 🏴☠) I'm happy to see it crumble. Don't get em wrong, Dragon Age has always been "left leaning" because Bioware is a left leaning company. Gay characters have existed since the first game, but it was never like this. This isn't Dragon Age, this is someone's thinly veiled attempt to admonish gamers for not being woke enough. Despite the fact that most gamers are pretty inclusive. Preachy propaganda bullshit.
Yup. There’s always been LGBT themes in many of their games. But it never beat you over the head. And the writing was incredible. But all the talent left.
A character before could be LGBT, it was a characteristic, not ALL of his or her personality. And even with this, they didn't have to be good people, of straight morals, they could have emotional, moral conflicts, arguments with others in the party. Zevran every time Wynne tried to reach out to him, he would make jokes because he doesn't like to be known. Leliana also tries to understand Morrigan and Sten, but the first one does not let her and the second one is... A Qunari.
@@TheLadyKemet You could reject Zevran's advances in DA:O if you weren't into that sort of thing, if it was made today that would be seen as intolerant and bigoted and suddenly you're thrown into into some gay relationship without even noticing that it was getting to that point (looking at you BG3). Can't even form friendships in these game.
I hate to be a pessimist but things aren't gonna change in time (if at all) for the next Mass Effect. They're gonna make Andromeda look like a masterpiece.
How many millions do these jokers have to lose before they finally give us a proper ass video game. If Saber can do it with Space Marine 2 so can EA and Ubisoft.
How many times does Joker have to lose to Batman before he finally gives up fucking with people? There's your answer
Their heads are so far up their ass that they can't possibly course correct because their brain worms won't let them. They will keep doub ling and tripling down and continue to call gamers bigots for not liking their drivel.
To be fair, Veilguard was fairly nominated for _Best Accessibility_ and if it doesn't win it's proof the awards are a scam.
The reason I said this is because Veilguard's puzzles are a breakthrough in Game Design: The managed to make them so braindead obvious even Skyrim's Nordic ruins _match the pictures_ puzzles seem like the _Tower of Hanoi_ in comparison, to the point I'm convinced they can be completed by a fella that has his frontal lobe missing.
I suppose that it depends on what counts as Accessible.
That's true. Also, the main character, Taash, is a young teenager that's trapped in a grown adult's body and confused about her gender.
You really need proof, in today's age, this show is a waste of time?
Can you even call those puzzles at that point? Pretty sure they're just tasks instead lol
Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Brian wrote a book and was later given an award by some group and was invited to speak with them, only to find out that it was just a bunch of special needs students. Their teacher then explained that Brian's writing was SO BASIC that even those mentally-challenged kids could understand it.
I'ma barber and if all my clients started say oi bro your haircuts are shit. I'd go oh fuck and I'd do whatever I had to to do better cuts. I wouldn't attack and gaslight my clients, which are my source of income. Ppl just want a good product/service.
Crazy to see an internal investigation over this.
Bigger IP's have leaks nearly every week, usually about entire new games or updates, and I've never heard of them investigating it.
Cuz leak of further plan can be a good marketing, and can be source of feedback before releasing leaked planned content
But this leak about the company internal blunder and tension, helps nothing and even potentially worsen sales and image
Not that it could go any worse
Point and laugh at all the "journalists" who now dislike it, as they desperately try to claw back an iota of credibility...
Thats the problem if you dig yourself into a hole. Trying to fill it, burys you alive.
Didn’t they say it was 1,000,000 copies shipped not sold? I think another TH-camr said this.
Clown world admits that world is clown world.
"Return to form," huh? 😂😂😂😂😂
The worst part about all of this is that constantly pushing out bad games for the sake of rep only creates animosity towards those groups they're trying to champion. To be fair a lot of the TIMs involved are gross misogynists anyway so good riddance.
You would think they would realize all people have nuance and bias when writing a character who doesn't like to be told who she/they/taash.. is, simultaneously showing her ignorance and bias against necromancers, constantly talking trash on him, making him seem like the weird one that should be looked down upon by society. Even thems have their biases and have trouble following their safe space rules.
It's not "woke", it's just trash! BioWare has always been a proponent of diversity and equal rights for everyone, but in the past they still managed to create believable and immersive games and stories. This is just ridiculous and although the main story was written okayish, the rest of the dialogues and quests were a new low for the recent BioWare games...
i mean congratulations, you just described a major issue with most woke games. Instead of the nuanced politics and characters of a game like DA:O, woke games use hamfisted writing to write complex issues in a way that sounds preachy and patronising. Like the Devs are using their characters and themes as a soapbox to stand on and tell the player how morally "correct" the devs and company are.
Or you've got the second brand of woke games, that being the corporate box checking type, which are sort of ironic because they come across as kinda racist sometimes. See AC: Shadows for that kind.
If you still drink the "they just hate diversity" cool aid, i dont know what else to tell ya
@@declancampbell1277 My point was, that being woke is not the issue here, but only the bad writing. The problems have nothing to do with wokeness, but only bad writers and stupid studio heads, who don't wanna take any risks and appeal to everyone. The same thing happens also in games that are not "woke".
IGN: There's a little something for everyone. 10/10 PERFECT! *cash please*
Trust me not all us gays like all this woke shit
Dont worry dude, its easy to spot the difference between a nut and normal people.
I think it's okay. Grouping people up just because of a few idiots is stupid. These devs need to realize they don't speak on everyone's behalf as much as they think they do. Their take is obsolete.
The biggest issue is that people are able to refund.
Normans need to learn.
Outside of playstation anyway. As much praise as playstation gets, I can't believe people don't complain more about their refund policies. Steam truly does it best. You get to refund a game within 2 hours of playtime.
@@A1phaz0ne Disagree. You Pre Order, you should fall on your butt. No refunds.
Make em pay for getting modern AAA gaming where it is today.
Does everyone remember that scene with Dorian? When we go to see the “family retainer” and it turns out it was his father instead? Everyone remember how soul crushing that was and how hard it is to watch? That’s how you touch on a real life subject. It wasn’t in our face all the time. It’s something we can remember and apply to real life while being entertained. What Dragon Age Wokeguard is the exact opposite.
They should admit that:
0) have 0 idea about graphics
1) They threw the lore into garbage
2) have no idea to write story/characters
3) or build puzzles
4) or a game flow
5) have no idea what actually sells
7:45 I would like to point out something important here. They *think* they are appealing to a wider and broader audience, but the fact is, the "modern audience" they're trying to appeal to doesn't exist. That's why these games are failing and facing so much backlash. Because the people they're appealing to are not part of the majority, or a wider and broader audience, they represent a negligible fraction. AAA devs love money more than anything, so they need to realize that alienating the majority for the sake of a miniscule vocal minority is not going to work. It's ridiculous that this even needs to be explained to them.
All this talk of too woke? The issue with this game is much simpler, poor characters, both in writing and in character creation. Lack of Player agency, to play the way that we want to play. And trying to pass this off as a Role Playing Game, when it is abundantly clear that it is in fact a Visual novel with minor role play flavour.
Because of the DEI woke hiring, it lead to all the issues you've mentioned.
@LloydChristmas-vx2wh 100% what did they expect
Taash is an insufferable and god awful character. But the team going scorched earth on everything before Veilguard is what upsets me most.
And the reason for poor character development, writing, lack of agency and 'passing things off' as things they aren't IS the woke agenda. How do you not understand that at this point?
Good writing ALWAYS acknowledges balance. It acknowledges that reality is grey and almost never black and white. That's what a good character IS, one who has multiple aspects to their character, like real people.
Wokeness is the ultimate form of gaslighting.
When I was very young, I had a cousin my age and a cousin 3 years younger. The younger cousin was spoilt and got whatever she wanted. When my cousin and I wanted to play games and would really start to enjoy ourselves, she would get jealous, want the attention and be envious of our fun. We were then forced to include her by adults, where she ruined 100% of fun was ever happening. She caused resentment towards herself and totally robbed my cousin and I of good imaginative fun.
That's what woke is.
You just need to compare Dorian's mission in Inquisition with Taash. Way better writing
"Return to form" my ass 🤣
Ign trying so hard to be relevant lol.
They lied about Lucanis too. He was meant to be the bisexual 'disaster', ended up being a writer's ship with an npc. His romance with your character is non-existent, locked out completely if you choose the wrong option so early in the game, you don't even know until the third act.
I want to see this game fail completely and all the responsible people who made it without jobs
selling "up to one million" is not the same as selling one million. I made up to one million dollars yesterday.
I suppose it's true.. go woke, go broke.
No disrespect to the trans community, but words like "non-binary" have no business being in a fantasy roll playing game. It's a modern-day term that completely smashes any attempt at emersion. Even if they were hell bent on bringing the topic into an RPG world, it could have/should have been done without using a modern, politically correct term. They may as well have been discussing graphics cards or hydro electric power plants.
Taash destroyed the game for me to the point where I am ashamed to even admit there were points in the game I enjoyed. I will not replay the game ..ever.
This just proves that everyone pushing this terrible title are nothing but a bunch of liars.
I now use the options on TH-cam, Google App and so on to ignore these legacy media companies. "Not Interested" - "Don't Recommend" - "Don't Show Content From ***" are quickly becoming some of my favourite options. This is what everyone should do if they really want to hit them were it hurts, don't engage with them at all, refuse to give them hits on their site, in search results, on TH-cam, everywhere. Reduce their traffic as much as possible.
I just want to play a GAME at the end of the day, crazy how companies lost there dam minds after all these years. Great video amigo 🔒
That’s the problem with socialism: they want to own your life and every moment of it.
I'm noticing a *Disturbing* trend recently..... Mass Effect: Andromeda, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League,
Saints Row (Reboot), DA: Veilguard....all these games seem to have the SAME PROBLEMS, IPs of popular franchises that spend YEARS in "development" only to release with atrocious dialogue, half baked story/plot points, numerous bugs/glitches, unlikable NPCs, etc smh Where does it End?! 😢
Trans Age : The Woke Guard...let's all be non-buynary!
I am guessing that Farming Simulator doesn't give you a 10 minute un-skippable lecture about pronoun usage that is clearly directed at the player.
I would have more respect for them if they just held strong and kept saying it was great. This move only servers to show just how spineless these people are. They would abandon the audience they spent years courting just to farm both sides of the story. They have shown, with this move, that they have no loyalty to any one group or ideology, proving that they are literally only in it for the clicks, rage filled clicks. Deplorable manipulations from a decrepit media soon to wallow in the pits of obscurity.
So quick question, you have actually sources? Or is this more rumours from smashtv and edimon? Because when I look it up it’s not actually journalism
The funny part is that you can absolutely make a top tier AAA game and have it be representative of the trans or LBGTQ+ community. Your main character could be a purple unicorn who flies around shitting happiness and self identifies as a toaster. Nobody would care so long as the STORY is good. You can't just throw these characters in there to check some imaginary box. Forced characters always stick out like a sore thumb.
IF you have this great character and have them being trans or gay or whatever else as a natural part of their development it works fine, it also shouldn't be their defining characteristic. A gay person's whole life isnt about being gay. They are a person with their own hopes and dreams and goals. Them being gay should just be on facet of an entire spectrum of things that make up that character.
If you have this companion character for the entire game and you go through all sorts of crazy shit with them and survive and at the end of the story you come back home and get off the ship and the whole community is there and low and behold you see this character you've never seen before run up to that companion and give them a big ol sloppy kiss and they just so happen to be the same gender, I promise you if the character was well written and acted you're probably going to get a HAH out of the player and they will think nothing less of the companion because they were such a great character.
Being part of the rainbow people isn't a way of life. Its simply a facet of their lives. If developers would start treating these characters like characters and stop over focusing on whats going on in their fucking pants they might just realize that its entirely possible to make a great game and still have the representation the modern world requires.
I love Dragon Age and no matter how many people hated it I loved Inquisition it brought me back to the good ol Origin... The veilguard on the other hand had such a great buildup and good villains to be fair like the old elven gods was even teased since origin and finally having a chance to duke it out with them just to be served with disastrous writing is such a blasphemy... Veilguard tried to pull a DA2 but failed the delivery so badly the only good aspect of the game is the combat that's it the combat is not even challenging like why create a parry system when spamming dodge and roll is all you need without a stamina bar you are immortal and one more good this is the dialogue with Solas in the fade atleast you can be an ass to him instead of the dialog with others where it limits you to only be a good guy... also forcing out "i'm non binary" in a medieval fantasy games is fucking hilarious the game had embraced same gender romance for decades and you just had to made it worse in veilguard... this game is just a clownfest that I won't even defend... I defended Inquisition like my life depends on it this one sorry I take a step back... Also why the heck the character look more like a fable game instead of Dragon Age...
big part of this problem is idiot youtubers who play it and indulges this woke propaganda saying that game is great if you dont look into the lore. American mind is too rotten with all of this bs, honestly.
As a die hard fan of dragon age. If they had pulled the game and decided to redo it, I would wait.
But instead they open an investigation on something the public already knew/would have found out later anyways…unbelievable. Just shows what matters most to them now.
Dragon Age fan here and I'm also a Farming Simulator player. Guess what I bought and what I didn't.
I predicted, FS25 will crush DAV, but it would have been more hyped if Assassin's Creed Shadows had released as early access on November 12th as it was planned. FS25 would have crushed that too.
Anyway, FS25 celebrated yesterday, 2 million copies sold after the first week. So more than DAV, Concord and Star Wars Outlaws combined. :D
Take that,woke trash….!
Its needs to be Remade. not Rewoke
“They” need to ask director one question.What was in your head when you decide to turn 18+ adult rpg which was full
Of injustice with which player fight ,full
Of philosophic ideas to Disney tale,where everybody” safe”.If the answer is money?i am glad they feel pain right now,it is very good,now they will learn and grow.because real world base on failure and how you deal with it,it is not rainbow pony world and never will be.
Hopefully Bethesda won't make same mistake with ES6 with results from all these sorts on things with indusrty. That is only if the lead writers are fired.
Im gay and in a race minority and I am so tired of woke sh!t
I swear this age of gaming is the equivalent to the 12 year old teenage girl (woke companies ) throwing a temper tantrum saying she will run away and the parents (gamers) saying "There's the door" , only for her to come back 1 day later after she ran out of nail polish or something and backtracking / acting like it never happened the next day.
Thankfully out of nowhere comes doom slayer on that same day and beheads the teenage girl with his chainsaw shield while riding a dragon shooting demon skulls to the sound of djent.
go woke go broke
The worst thing is that there is no way to save it even as a game. It is worse than Andromeda, but much, much worse. I don't know what they wanted to do here, well, even they don't know, it started as a single, then as a service game for mobile (and it still shows) then multi, then single again...
Getting $14 for this game is $14 too much
Great little video. Always enjoy your coverage. But please bro, the moustache has to go lol
I kinda want to buy Farming Simulator just to give it a positive review that says, "I only bought this game out of spite for Veilguard."
the trade in value of $14 is MIND NUKING
If you made the unfortunate decision to buy this game, consider leaving a negative review on Steam to help others avoid the same mistake. By the way, the game currently has a 71% rating on Steam, down from 78%. If we can lower it to 69%, the overall rating will shift from 'Positive' to 'Mixed
There is no way that devs are getting a 70% cut of any game sale. If it's sold on steam then Steam takes 30% if its sold for Xbox then Microsoft is taking 30% (or paying them to put it on game pass) if it's sold for Playstation then Sony is taking 30%. Epic game store takes a smaller cut and so does GOG but lets be real those store fronts make up maybe 2% of game sales at best. So no matter what system it's being played on there is 30% coming off the top by default. That's before retail and distributor cuts for physical copies and then you still have the publisher that's going to pay themselves back their costs for funding the game first then still take 50-60% of whatever is left after the game starts being profitable. In a best case scenario the people who actually make a game get like 30-40% and Veilguard is certainly not the best case scenario.
I got permanently banned on Steam's The Veilguard forums for speaking the truth about how horrible this game is. Bioware is extremely butthurt right now. They only have Patrick weeks to blame for this.. I hope Bioware publicly apologies to their fans and fires Weeks over the failure of the FAILEDguard.
I played hundreds of hours of DA. I love the storyline and the characters, but now that I've heard a lot of negative reviews saying they focused too much on gameplay and that the story is very lacking, I don't feel like buying it. I don't want to get my heart broken. I love DA, and it's so hard to accept that this is happening and this is not what I was expecting. The biggest disappointment for me is the character design. DAI did very well with character customization, but the body proportions are very odd, and I hate them so much.
when they put a they/them on gender while doing character creation you can assume that its woke
What a tragedy.
Dragon age origins was and forever will be a masterpiece in my eyes. It was a product of love and labor, made by a dedicated team that cared about one thing and one thing only: making a game that's fun to play, has an engaging story and features unique characters. No one gate a f**k about politics or "gender identity", Bioware gave us bangers after bangers such as Baldur's gate ,Mass effect, Jade empire and many more, what went wrong?!?!
I think the silver lining in all this is that people are going back to the older titles in the series, even newcomers!
My mother that for the record has never played a video game in her life and is very much outside the gaming loop has heard of how bad Veilguard was.
dragon age has always been woke Idk why we are acting like it's just the veilguard
Being woke is not even the problem. If you played long enough, you will realize that their dialogues dont make sense sometimes. Its like two AI talking to each othet
Having played 100 hours to complete the game. I liked it. I didn't find anything being forced. The Trans and NB aspects were nice to see, but it was never a main aspect in my playthtough. I understood the story, got the references for the older games, and enjoyed the companion quests. I don't see what's wrong. If I missed something, please inform me.
I so happy they only sale 1mil copys, and i hope more youtubers will not play this piece of shit with woke propaganda,studios like bioware should delete yourself from gaming industry
Love it. Let's start an investigation into the leaker of the sales numbers instead of an investigation over the many, many bad decisions in the actual game. Seriously, top surgery scars? WTF has that got to do with a fantasy game? I don't even play RPGs or Dragon Age, but it's so obviously a lecture session first, game second.
Exactly the same situation as the sequel Star Wars "trilogy". Instead of putting these established, beloved, and generally well constructed IP's in the hands of competent, skilled, and source driven people...
No... they chose the ones who screamed the loudest and pined for a self-insert fan fiction on par with the writing of the Twilight series or worse.
Good thing I got my refund processing. How dare they ruin what could have been an amazing game.
Honestly, this isn’t Dragon Age. This should have been a new game and that’s that. It is unacceptable to destroy a whole franchise like that. The whole story of DA was thrown out in the garbage. Characters like Isabella, who used to have tits, don’t have tits anymore. Characters like Morrigan, who had a specific personality, don’t have that personality anymore. “Who doesn’t like dragons”, in an apocalyptic world, huh. The fact that I am obliged to suffer while listening to their dialogues… I won’t even mention the push up scene anymore. And even toddlers could have made better romance dialogues. It doesn’t matter that the combat system is good. Because in all of the other regards, this game is a total mess. We’ve had Fernando with his existential problem in DA:Inquisition, a good written story and it made sense. I’ll stop to that. You can’t compare Fernando’s story to the stories of the characters in Veilguard. :)
That's why I don't trust large gaming review sites like IGN and their ilk.
Off topic a bit but y’all don’t even have 5k subscribers? I could’ve sworn this channel had at least tens of thousands due to the video quality
Farming Simulator has a lot of fans though. It's crazy popular on TH-cam for some reason :D.
To be fair Farming Simulator is a very popular franchise, I am not surprised it surpassed Veilguard to be honest, even if Veilguard was actually good, which clearly is not the case.
The absolute failure of this game should be a lesson to _ALL_ the gaming industry. Wokeness has no place here.
Bioware: Who do we need to fire!?
How about anyone with blue hair, has pronouns in their bio, and isn't an actual fan of the original story...
Also you can tell no one finds any of the characters attractive cause there's no adult art of the characters, meanwhile I remember Iron Bull got a ton of art of him before the game was even released.
It makes me laugh the woke journos stuck by outlaws and that was in alot worse state, but with da 'it's like 'Rats deserting a 'sinking stinking, ship🫢 'RATS being the operative word! See how quick they turn on each other 'that's how loyal they are to each other 🙂↔️
Glad to have found your channel! Love the channel name! Were making a comeback to sanity by making these big corporations choke on their ESG money!
On the steam page it only shows that the game is coated in great reviews, but if you head down the page and click to see all 24,000 reviews made, All it shows are people's poor recommendations that all have thousands of helpful tags. Do you think steam is hiding them?
All the major gaming "news/review" companies are a part of the overall mainstream media. I usually go opposite of whatever IGN says when picking games.
Your channel should be much bigger than it currently is.
Great coverage, clean delivery, slick studio setup, nice video edits, personable.
I'm a new fan. Keep up the good work.
Game journalists are just another version of a very common personality trait in our day and age.
Offended by everything, yet ashamed of nothing. changing their mind about reviews, and bullying other games like Black myth Wukong because they wouldn't pay sweet baby inc 6 million dollars to literally ruin their game.