Every single parent that’s had to have a “late term abortion” had to go home empty handed and dismantle a nursery. Every one. Every single parent was expecting to have a child and choosing to have the child. The “choice” part of “pro-choice” had been made *months* before that point. And they’re allowed to choose to let themselves die legally, but the whole thing about wanting to have a child is you’re usually starting your life, starting a new chapter, starting a new family…and you usually wanna be around for that.
yeah. late term abortions are emotionally devastating. they are people who already decided to have the baby and were looking forward to it and excitedly preparing.
Sending SO MUCH love and hugs to every person who's had to experience this. It makes it all that much more gut wrenching to see these pro-birth propaganda demonize these people's horrific experiences. Makes me angry for them.
For my 2nd pregnancy, I would have had to deal with the choice of when to end the pregnancy, had the timing been just a little different. 26 week loss of a baby girl that was wanted, but she was only measuring less than 22 weeks. So she'd stopped growing but nothing seemed off until she was gone and I went in to get checked out due to her not moving. The choice I was then given was when to be induced (I waited for the following morning) so I could give birth to my dead baby. It makes me so mad that people believe women are just getting rid of their babies willy nilly, especially the later into pregnancy they get.
100%! They're told, "go to stupidstats.falsehoods and read it for yourself! This is your research. We've done it for you. We're very helpful that way."
@ surely people so confident couldn’t be wrong. Surely!! … Okay I can’t keep doing parody because it sounds too much like what I hear real people say and it hurts my head. As a researcher there is very little that bugs me as much as anti-science sentiment or people calling social media a source. But being in this comment section feels like being among my own people so hugs to you and everyone reading this!
People who claim it's common for women to change their minds late in pregnancy for no reason apparently are the type to drive across the USA, and in the last few miles from their destination change their minds and go back home.
Exactly!!! You might have had carsickness, not eaten or slept well, were constantly alert, and uncomfortable sitting for a long time and having a seat belt tied around you. But then you go 'Nah I don't feel like it, I'll just quit my trip and maybe try again next time' 😕😕
To play devil's advocate: what if the mother is pregnant with the intention of carrying to term, and then the father either breaks up, or does an unforgivable action like cheating? This seems like a situation that could cause a woman to change her mind about giving birth.
@@carultch My husband cheated and ended our marriage 3 weeks before our child was due. Never for a single second did I think about not having that child. The mind goes directly to "how do I adjust to this new life? What changes am I going to make to make this work?" There's also the fact that even before the fall of Roe, it was very hard to get a late term abortion and simply changing your mind was never a valid reason.
@@carultchNo way, I think she'd have to be seriously mentally ill for this to happen. Like those women in postpartum depression who take their own and their babies' lives.
I went and looked into the California law. What the law is for: pregnant people cannot be prosecuted for the death of their baby if their baby is stillborn or dies in the "perinatal" time, which the most generous definition of is up to 28 days (four weeks) after birth. The law was amended to specify that this was if the cause of death was related to the pregnancy (mom took drugs, got into a car accident that injured the baby somehow, etc.) If you're the type to believe the worst of pregnant people or new parents, I can see where they're coming up with this being post-birth abortion!
@@pazobackenstein6473 Pretty sure it's just saying that if it happened to the woman in the future after giving birth, not that she's still pregnant lol.
teaching my husband the point of RvW and him being like, "oh I don't see a problem with it being left to the states." and then reminding him that he just said the same phrase the South used when discussing slavery. Yes, I am comparing slavery to birth rights. Human rights are human rights and no one should be forced to LABOR if they don't want to. (like what i did there? LABOR)
Sounds like someone married an uneducated narcissist. I mean, maybe someone wanted a "morally challenging" husband incapable of thinking critically about human rights issues. He's probably so happy to be reinsured though that it doesn't matter how he thinks about women's rights... because he obviously can get a wife no matter what stance he takes. So that's nice for him. Silver linings and stuff.
@@halburke2947 conversely, if we're going to say that bodily autonomy is only a right to be decided at the statewide level, then i want ALL rights to be decided by a statewide vote. i want to go to the ballot box and vote against the 2nd amendment, against the repeal of prohibition, against free speech (we don't have it anyway, might as well start regulating it with some degree of common sense), against warrantless searches and seizures. let's see how these dudes feel about "the states should decide rights" when congress bans pornography and the FBI just busts into their house to search for it with no warning or cause, and they can't even defend themselves with a gun.
You make a point but a false equivalence. Forced birthing is the main wrong with banning abortion and merely one facet of slavery. Two things can't be equal while one contains the other and more still.
@@JediMasterKal Birth is only a small part of it. Carrying a pregnancy to term changes the body forever. Then you give birth and you either raise a child, which changes your life forever, or give up a child (emotional trauma), which changes your life forever and the child could come around looking for you in 18 years anyway.
I don’t know why people think woman choose abortions Willy nilly for no reason, ESPECIALLY later in the pregnancy. 16 weeks with my rainbow baby, thankfully they have been healthy so far (next appointment is later this week). I couldn’t imagine carrying a child this long with all the illness I’ve experienced and just deciding one day that I didn’t want it… women who carry these babies into the 2nd and 3rd trimester more than likely wanted those babies to thrive. To make a heartbreaking and life saving decision into a political stunt is insane to me.
Sending you all of the positive vibes and love internet stranger 🖤. I hope everything is absolutely fantastic for you and baby at your next appointment 🖤🖤.
@ Thank You! feeling more comfortable and confident now that we are in our 2nd trimester. We lost our first pregnancy back in April so the fear of losing this one too is pretty fresh still. Hoping that all will be good at our appointment!
Also imagine in a hypothetical utopia. The idea of someone wanting an abortion at all is bs. Coz even if everything is affordable and there don't have to worry about sick days from work or affording Healthcare etc, nobody wants to be in a situation where they want or need an abortion. Even in a utopic society where there could be no negative repercussions and consequences. No one wants to take time out of their day to go to a clinic or hospital and have an abortion. It's a medical procedure. People who say that women will have abortions whenever willy nilly just not have protection get pregnant and just oh oops abort it I'll have my 19th abortion are saying similar to people just wanting an appendectomy repeatedly. If anyone wanted to take time out of their day they'll wanna do that for something they enjoy or need. And on top of that we don't live in that utopia. Taking a sick day off work is a tough decision. Some people live paycheck to paycheck with and/or without children they already have. The procedure of an abortion would be expensive as it is on top of the Healthcare that they they barely afford if even at all. Plus recovery. And time itself is valuable. Time that could be spent picking up their kids or grocery shopping or working very much needed hours or resting etc. None of these and more are the conservatives considering.
@@manikpink6771 I'm so sorry for your prior loss. Prayers & best wishes to you, mama! I hope that in a few months you'll be snuggling your perfectly healthy baby ❤️
I'm from eastern Europe (a region that is generally considered less developed than the west) and I can not believe what is happening in the US in this day and age. jeez
It is because we have had a Democrats in office for the past 4 years that's exactly what the problem is we were not in the state of dismay before this Administration
Wait by the "after birth abortion" logic does this mean if an adult gets murdered someone could also get charged with helping with an after birth abortion
Im literally still having this argument with my mother. She'll believe the TV telling her post-birth abortions are real, and not her daughter with an M.S. and B.S.
I'm in the same situation. I think the problem is they grew up in the 50s and 60s when you could believe what the news was reporting. There was rules about reporting facts. Older Americans just don't realize/understand that just because something seems like a news report, doesn't mean it's actually 100% truth. They're not used to having to do the work and research facts.
@@jennthya6982 There still are rules, they're supposed to report truthfully. But they've learned they can always present a brief, insincere, and easily-forgotten retraction/apology after the damage is done.
"Just because you have that education doesn't make you an authority! It doesn't mean you know any better." Said to me by someone I know and care about. Said to me by someone who often gets angry with me when they think I've said something with the intent to hurt them. Never have I ever said anything to hurt them. Never would I say anything like that. If someone should feel hurt by the words used during our conversations, I'm the one who should be hurt because they're saying my education, my experience, and my ongoing work to stay current with the best practices related to the subject(s) mean absolutely nothing. That somehow anyone who would waste their money on an education to provide quality care for them, their families, or the community is ridiculously well-educated but woefully inept at understanding the "facts". It's offensive. But, who do all these people turn to when they're in pain? Who do these people turn to when they're suddenly bleeding copiously and can't stanch the flow? Who do these people turn to when they can't breathe? So, educated, but dumb. Educated, but ill-equipped to understand the facts as determined by those who have ZERO education and licensing in healthcare. Educated, but not qualified for anything until, "Oh, my lord! I'm in danger and need your help!"
@@jennthya6982 Here it might also be the case of a parent not taking their child seriously. I've experienced this mentality of "you might be book educated, but I have more life experience and know the world better". If a peer friend who they respect said the same thing, they'd probably be more likely to listen.
Section 230. Social media platforms are not held accountable for lies they host that absolutely profits the platform. If section 230 stands as is, misinformation can kill any nation.
Tbf, are the platforms correcting them? No. But there are so many professionals speaking out and offering corrections with sources, with studies, with FACTS. And looking into even MDJ's comments, you'll see idiots that continue to say "No. That's wrong."
One big lie from Trump was that young children are dropped off at school a boy and that their child is returned to them a girl. Who in their right mind believes elementary schools have full hospitals tucked in the coat closet ? This lie made the rounds online.
Abortion after 20 weeks is a wanted child. An excited parent goes to the anatomy scan and finds out something heartbreakingly tragic about their very wanted pregnancy, and they then have to make a devastating decision. No one is having a late term abortion through ‘choice’, they made their choice months earlier to continue their pregnancy.
And need to give birth to that dead baby is awful becouse it's to late for tabletts that make your body to absorbe it and bleed out. You must go through the birth knowing the baby is dead
I know a woman who opted for an abortion of a wanted child. She already had 2 kids to care for and had a high-risk pregnancy due to some medical issues with her uterus and something about the position of the baby in her uterus. The doctors said that she had about a 25% chance of dying from internal bleeding once the baby grew too big, because something was in danger of rupturing. If she had wanted to keep the baby, she would also have had to be on bed rest for months and not be able to work or care for her 2 kids that she already had. She wasn't about to take those odds, even though she had wanted to have that 3rd child. She was pretty devastated.
I think this is where people are not pro or against abortion- they want it to be unnecessary. If we had safety guards in place and scientists making an effort to make it easier for women to care for their children and themselves it would help
This where so much disagreement occurs- most anti-abortion proponents are not against D&C for removing a dead body. They are against termination of a fetus who can’t survive outside of mom- seen as an end of life respect while abortion proponents advocate that it makes the later birth process more painful emotionally
@@frostsong9921 one of the problems with anti-abortion legislation is that it criminalises the "grey area", where the circumstances are not quite as clear-cut as in the textbook. If an abortion is allowed to save the life of the mother, but only when she is in immediate danger of dying, life-saving interventions will be delayed until absolutely necessary, increasing the danger of complications. If the fetus is dying but not quite dead, and abortion is only allowed for dead fetuses, this will prolong the mental and physical suffering of the mother while waiting for the inevitable. I agree with your other point though, that most people are not "pro abortion", and most people in the pro-choice camp would like to see abortion rates decline due to other measures like education, protection, affordable and safe birth control, better healthcare, and social and financial safeguards to make sure no child is aborted due to financial worries. However, anti-abortion laws often ignore the many roots of the problem, which are left unsolved, and the people who are affected are left with more worries than before.
Well, apparently 71M Americans don't gaf about women's rights and decided the idea of cheap eggs and gas with a side of propaganda was the better option. 🥰 We are so fvcked. Blessed be.
@@Onionfries-cz4woexactly. From 10-60% in freaking tariffs. SIXTY PERCENT- specifically aimed at china, but most of the US goods come from china…. Y’all, the US is about to go down in flames. 💔
That's gonna backfire on them really hard. When the orange anus imposes tariffs, and prices skyrocket for everydamnthing... they'll blame someone else. Sigh
Here's where the murdering babies conspiracy comes from: if a baby is born alive but has severe health complications to the point there is nothing medical professionals can do to save or prolong its life, the parents have the option of refusing resuscitation and letting the baby pass. Take anencephaly for example: the baby will typically only live for a matter of hours, and there is nothing doctors can do to stop the baby from dying. Instead of spending the couple of hours it has on this earth being worked on by doctors when there is no hope of saving its life, the parents may choose to refuse any life extending care and simply spend the last moments that child has with them and let the baby pass in their arms. There may be cases where the parents can't emotionally handle holding the baby or watching it die, and Republicans use those instances to say that they handed their baby over and told doctors to kill it (not true, but thats how they use these circumstances to perpetuate their lies). They are using these very unique circumstances in which they allow newborns to pass away, and are applying it like anyone who has a healthy baby can just request it be killed. This is how they take a grain of truth and turn it into a silo of lies. Its heartbreaking to think that they may use this disinformation to regulate against allowing terminally ill newborns to pass away peacefully with their parents, and doctors may be required to constantly revive the child or perform fruitless surgeries on a baby that has no chance of surviving.
Why didn't the reporter ask that man why he thinks a woman would carry a pregnancy for NINE MONTHS and then just say, "Yeah, never mind, just kill it."? He has absolutely no respect for the work it takes to bring a life, the person who does the work and the doctor who swears an oath. It's insane. The lack of respect for mothers and the work they do TO ENSURE THE CONTINUATION OF THE FREAKING SPECIES is grotesque.
Because it wasn't a reporter! He's from the good liars. On top of that, once they are telling you " do your research ", they're in a cult... whatever you tell them doesn't come through, believe me, I tried... they are so far into the conspiracy theories and Trumpism, facts that we know as facts, they have other "facts" from gaslighting
It hurts my head when people don't actually know what abortion includes. Miscarriage, still born late term pregnancy. They just think it's just 1 thing and not providing needed medical care at any and all conditions.
And by medical definition, even pre-term induced labor resulting in a living infant is still considered a late-term abortion. ANYTHING that ends a pregnancy, regardless of the outcome of the fetus, prior to term is medically an abortion.
That's why pro-life laws define what "abortion" means in their context to avoid confusion. Because there is a difference between abortion and miscarriage, even if miscarriages are medically called "abortions". Failure to provide miscarriage care is a nationwide medical malpractice issue that has nothing to do with pro-life laws.
I actually think it was good pete didn’t correct the statistics and just focused on getting his point across. I think it would have just devolved into a stats and sources back and forth and instead he focused on humanizing and helping people empathize with a situation potentially wildly different from anything they’ve ever experienced.
i can tell it was an old clip because chris wallace was there, and fuck him for playing into the fox news propaganda. fortunately buttigieg got way better at navigating the fox news machine since then and now he can cut them down with a one-liner before they have time to interrupt. i would have turned it back around on him: do you think licensed physicians are performing elective abortions on third-trimester fetuses for no reason? do you think a mother whose dearly beloved child has a fetal anomaly incompatible with life should be forced to carry that child to term, knowing it will die regardless and putting her at risk for complications in the meantime?
The post-birth abortion comes from a distorted interview with a Virginia governer. He was talking about 3rd trimester abortions where the fetus had severe deformities, or wasn't viable, and the mother requested it while in labor. His answer was, “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam says in a video from the 2019 interview being shared online. “The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” and this was taken out of context. It wasn't talking about healthy infants. No woman is changing their minds in the 3rd trimester and getting an abortion for the lolz. It's always a horribly tragic reasoning for it.
Right! They’re demonizing and distorting the process of providing literal palliative care to dying newborns, simply to fit an agenda. It’s horrifying that they can just outright lie like this.
The amount of "your body, my choice" rhetoric in the past week since the election has been absolutely disgusting. With him winning, it's like people have decided it's okay to outwardly be an awful, hateful person🥴 so openly cheering for rights being taken away, the cloak is gone and they're not even pretending it's about the life of the potential child anymore.. I'm depressed.
Fully agree with the people who say those men need to be added to a certain registry.... IDK if they are just trying to "look tough" and are feeling powerful with their internet anonymity. You don't say things like that, not even as a joke, it's not funny. It's a HUGE red flag.
the best thing I've seen about this very thought, is that if it was truly "pro-LIFE" then there would be a lot more after birth assistance. and these "pro-lifers" are in reality just pro-birth.
@@dissodatore also better access to prenatal care... overall better Healthcare, honestly. Canada isn't perfect but at least people aren't limited on the care they get based on insurance. There are crazy waiting times in ERs if you're not urgently needing care. At least where I live there isn't an official urgent care, so the ER often times overwhelmed when walk in clinics are closed. If I was in the US when I had our first baby we would likely still be paying off the bill from NICU stay. We pay taxes here, sure, but it's not anywhere near what it would have cost us for insurance deductibles, co-pays, and everything. The most expensive medical related thing we have gotten was my IUD which was $300CAD and my husband had a really nice prescription and dental plan through his work which covered 80% of that. And optometry and dental work, would be paid for out of pocket too, but many jobs have plans for those too and cover a good percentage.
Yeah, I hate Transgender insanity in women's sports, women are being treated unfair and horrible. I also don't like when you see unborn children as garbage, they deserve to live no matter if they're healthy or sick. It's not your choice, your child shares 50% of your DNA. If you don't want it, you can give to adoption, there will always be good people. Anyway, Trump is very open and doesnt want to ban abortion, let the states decide it.
I know so many people who've had to abort wanted pregnancies. For non-progression, fatal anomalies, life-threatening pregnancy complications, and needing chemotherapy. Most of these people later became (or already were) wonderful parents. Thanks to accessing safe abortion.
It's sad the people who need to see this video won't watch it. In case someone does stumble upon this video and reads the comments, there is no town, city, state, territory, or Native American Tribal Nation in the United States where k*lling a baby after it is born is legal.
I'm sure very few people believe that. I've never heard that argument and those two are obviously way off base. I'm sure what they actually heard or read was that in some states (at least Minnesota) if an abortion is attempted but the baby is born alive, medical aid does not have to be rendered to that baby. In Minnesota, that is a new change to the language of a law written in 1976 that required an attempt to save the life of the infant accidentally born alive.
@@SkyesoceaneyesYes, I think that's what's meant. Whenever someone talks about "post birth abortion" and goes into detail about what they mean, they usually cite something like this. I've never heard someone seriously argue that it's legal anywhere to actively harm a newborn. I wish it would be expressed differently, so there would be fewer misunderstandings about this.
As a Canadian on election night, I was following the ballot measure and cheering on the states who voted to protect abortion rights. It was disheartening to see that even in Florida a majority voted to extend protections but the 60% threshold made it so that the measured failed. 😢
That 60% threshold was passed some years ago, and at the time people didn't understand how it would be used against them. And our own corrupt governor used our taxpayer dollars to spread misinformation via lots of TV advertising.
2:01 sadly common sense is a foreign concept to those people. With that logic, we can call school mass shootings after birth abortion. Hell, maybe something would actually done to PREVENT the shootings if it was called after birth abortion.
Hmmmm. Hate to be the one to tell you this, but out here in the rest of the world, many look at the US and say (with only mild sarcasm) , well yeah, they want to ban abortion because they're all fundamentalist Christians who want to protect himan life at any cost, but that's fine because they know the kid will just get shot in primary school, since you can pretty much order an assault rifle online. That is what the USA looks like from the outside, and frankly, it has looked like that for a long, long while now, never mind the latest debacle.
Yet when we provide names of women who passed because hospitals denied miscarriage treatment, they put their fingers in their ears, scream they aren't listening and call it a lie...when there are actual, verifiable, confirmed cases. Facts aren't real to them, it's rumors and lies that make them mad.
My sister had to have an abortion last year when she was 17 weeks pregnant. That baby was loved : she got a name, my sister made her a baby blanket herself, they spent time with her after she gave birth to her. I can hardly even imagine how devastating it must be once you get to the viable date. I too was shocked by thet fact that Pete B. didn't have his facts right not just when it came to data but also to the reason those late term abortions are done. It's not just for the mom's health but also (and dare I say essentially) because of fetal anomalies that weren't detected before.
A good proportion of abortions are couples mostly married, who wanted a baby but things don't go as planned as you said due to fatal fetal anomalies they need to access abortion.
Much love to your sister. What a heartbreaking thing. I'm glad she got the healthcare she needed. To be fair, Pete correctly stated "LESS than one percent". He also moved on quickly from the stats to the real issue at hand. Realistically, all issues are emotional issues and not logical ones. If he had argued the stats like a robot, people would have lost the message. Instead, he turned a statistic into a story. By weaving a narrative, the listener can easily imagine how intensely difficult that choice must be to decide that a late-term abortion is the best decision.
@@carmenjoydoucette8488 she did because we're in Europe. Not only did she receive the healthcare she needed but it was almost free. They were already going through hell so I'm thankful they didn't get financially strained in addition to the emotional heartache.
@@ciaramc29 Many are because a married couple already has children and can't afford more. And apparently the majority of people who seek an abortion also used some form of prevention that failed. It's not just the expense of a baby, either, but all the prenatal medical care, the hospital (or even home birth) medical costs, etc. If you're already barely scraping by to support the children you have, then you'd have to weigh your desire for another child against your ability to afford one--even if you thought you would be able to put the child up for adoption.
Tim Walz talking about waiting for that phone call makes me cry every time. I have waited for that phone call. I have gotten the bad news phone call. The way he describes it is so, so real.
Tim didn’t have Hope using IVF… he just likes to stretch the truth for political gain. Or in his own words he “misspoke”. Don’t let his lies pull on your heart strings.
If I had a giant stuffed animal, you'd get the prize... spot on. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during these trying times @macarenacabral4258
When you ask questions like "where did you get this info?" or raise counterpoints such as "but that's not called abortion." Be sure to closely watch the other person's reaction to them. If they don't address those things, by either stating "it just happens because I know it" or by ignoring them outright and taking a tangent, ou know they have no logical basis. They're only saying things they heard (or read) from "sources" they trust for emotional reasons: parents, teachers they like, neighbors, social media circle, maybe several of these. Also 14:30 that is so dystopian. They are sharing tips on how to gaslight all women into supporting them. They are outright telling people, publicly, to use emotional manipulation to garner more votes. That to me is a very clear confession: "we can't win women's votes by using the truth so here's how to reword everything to make it sound like we're good guys." This sort of shameless promotion of manipulation should get them imprisoned for a good amount of time and banished for life from any position of power.
I also get livid at these 6-7-8-9 month abortions, like it's "la de da I'm tired of this baby." These are often families getting ready for a new addition when something goes wrong. These families are faced with horrific, heartbreaking choices after so much hope. Maybe there are kids ready to be an older brother or sister. These are true tragedies, and they turn these into lies about people just ditching their pregnancy. Shameful when these families suffer such loss.
I can appreciate that some people don’t like abortion and they shouldn’t be forced to have one. There are a million reasons why a woman may need to terminate a pregnancy and the reasons are no one else’s business. I find it gross that anyone, much less a politician, can force you to give birth. Why don’t they worry about all the kids in foster care or are severely disabled? More are coming for sure. I lived my reproductive years with the right to choose. I feel like we have let young women down and for that I am truly sorry.
In Buttigeg's defense it is just so tiring getting hit with propaganda with a half dozen lies in it and having to decide which if those lies to refute. You can't do them all before you lose the target's interesr
Doctors have ethical codes and standard practices mandated by their medical boards. If a healthy mother has a healthy fetus late enough to be viable, then abortion is very risky. It is generally safer to deliver the baby and then put them into the standard system. Healthy newborns are usually adopted quickly.
AZ had 15 ballot initiatives this year, and 1 was in favour of abortion rights. Some of the initiatives were terrible and unfortunately passed 😭, but I'm happy the abortion one also passed and I did my civic duty to make it happen.
That's one reason why this election was confusing. A lot of abortion protection measures passed in states that went red in the general... Like... do they not realize that the Project 2025/Agenda 47 folks are gunning for a federal restriction or ban on the thing they just voted in
7:24 This is why I respect MDJ, because she uses her expertise to call out people that are giving misinformation REGARDLESS of party and gives the data.
And no one is choosing an abortion in cases where easier forms of birth control are an option. People say "just don't get pregnant!" But if that was a viable option, then no one would be subjecting themselves to invasive medical procedures or the process of a medication abortion.
@drewjay8940 I'm 9 weeks pregnant right now and I was on birth control, and it happened ONE time in that time period. Birth control is not 100% especially when you're more fertile postpartum
Can’t finish the video because triggers, but I want to be supportive and encourage you to keep making more videos! I grew up super conservative Christian, and your channel has allowed me to get real facts about reproductive health to replace the lies that I was taught. Thank you, and keep on fighting!
@@AccidentallyOnPurpose What’s even worse, the US is reading at a 5th-6th grade level. THEIR VOTE COUNTS JUST AS MUCH AS MINE. This is disheartening because their lower education is destroying America, as we speak. I’m broken, I don’t want to stay in the US anymore. I had family vote against me, as a woman, and a woman who has PCOS. Women with PCOS statistically have higher rates of miscarriages. It’s not a “if” I have a miscarriage, it’s a when. I’ve grieved the life I thought my husband and I were going to have, especially in the next few years. We were so excited for our future and to start a family, but now everything is up in the air and I honestly don’t know if we will ever have children. We definitely don’t want to stay here in the US. 💔
As Jimmy Kimmel said... "it was a bad night for democrats, but it was a bad night for republicans too. They just don't know it yet." They'll soon enough see what a grave mistake they made voting for him. Idk about you guys, but I will be happy to sit back and watch the show, when they realize they really screwed themselves over.
@@meowmeowmeowmeowcatoncomputer It's unfortune that everyone will suffer, whether they voted for him or not. I'm also 22 and on my mom's insurance. My dad gets insurance through the affordable care act, and he has diabetes. Idk what he is going to do for his insulin, among a lot of other people who need insurance for their medicine.
I don’t think they’ll see it, though. They’ll be as blind to the fact that their actions have caused negative consequences as they are to the fact that “post-birth termination” is an utterly absurd idea. They believe everything is fine, their choices were correct, and so obviously things will be “great again”. Anything negative either doesn’t exist, or is misinformation promulgated by the left and untrue. That’s how it always goes, and I can’t see it being any different this time.
It infuriates me so much when people come to debates like that with no intention to have a sincere debate. They ask a ridiculous question, they start to get a measured answer, and they go "No no no just answer the question. Look, he doesn't want to answer the question!"
Here's the thing, first and foremost, I love your channel! Even as somebody who does believe in these fundamental rights and is pro woman's choice, I find myself being educated on a regular basis when I watch your videos. So thank you! The thing that bothers me is that debunking all of these lies, (because I'm done calling it misinformation/disinformation), all this stuff falls on deaf ears. Because the people that need to hear it are not listening. They are going to other right leaning sources, which are spreading the lies, and they believe them because they're so earnest when they're say it. It sounds like it's real and they look at the left and they see how inclusive we are (supporting LGBT, supporting women, we have progressive ideas) and they just think that we're crazy. I've had to educate and borderline scold my bf because he's one of these libertarians who says he "believes in abortion, but not up until the 9th month" 🤦🏽♀️ I told him is first of all, you don't have to believe in abortion, it's not a religion, it's a medical procedure. And secondly, nobody's getting an abortion in the 9th month! But this is what we're talking about. I mean, and you know this more than anybody MDJ; There are just people that aren't willing to look at this as a nuanced conversation. It's either black or white to them, and I don't know if we're going to be able to convince those people to step away from those ideas. Even if it is hurting people that they know and love. We're about to FAFO with this new administration... godspeed America ❤
I am a Catholic and I believe that personhood begins at conception. This belief guides my own choices. God gave us free will and told us not to judge others. That too guides my own choices. Therefore, I do not have the right to impose my beliefs upon another, I do not have the right to judge other people’s choices, and government doesn’t have that right either.
Exactly. I have a deeply Catholic friend who defends free will and the separation of church and state passionately. And we are close friends, even though I come from a culture with more than 8 million gods, none of whom have ever made my uterus their business unless I specifically asked them too.
I believe this is how it should be! Yes your beliefs aren't the same as others, whether religious or not, but others shouldn't dictate anyone's bodily autonomy and healthcare plan. I can't imagine using the same logic for other medical conditions that aren't pregnancy. I wished all people could just make their own decisions for themselves and mind their own business. Our world would be a much better place.
@@SophieRoseLive So you are saying the human being growing inside the womb and the one who will ultimately suffer from an abortion is also you? Otherwise, I repeat what I say, it is not your body.
@jonathanparks207 So, you would rather force a woman to suffer and bring into the world a child they don't want ? A child they may hate ? And no adoption isn't going to work . People won't be able to adopt because they have kids themselves
@@hannahdyson7129There are people waiting years to adopt a baby, who will never get the opportunity to do so. It is older toddlers and children who are the ones that are more difficult to place, especially those with disabilities or who require ongoing medical care or special needs being met.
Im from Missouri and my only consolation is that we passed a law repealing the abortion ban and writing abortion rights into our state constitution. I weep for my country and my heart hurts for the women and girls in states without abortion rights.
Ironically monsters never think of themselves and their actions as monstrous, as seen by Republican voters as well as sexistic judges trampling over human rights and nothing in the system stopping them. And them still framing themselves as saviours.
I’m going to g to be honest, though, is it wrong to call someone a monster for voting to force raped women to give birth, for advocating for transgender patients to not be allowed to receive gender affirming care (but allowing it for cisgender patients), and for believing that Israel should “Finish the job”?
@@GogiRegionno, but I think they meant that people who are trying to protect their lives are being called monsters by the people who are asaulting them
Calling flat out lies Freedom of speech is just completely hair raisingly stupid. But well, after not wanting a king that walking orange is probably the next best thing.
I'm prochoice because I was born preterm and the result of a high-risk highly complicated pregnancy. Even though my mom would have done everything possible to avoid having an abortion, the option was always there and her pregnancy was made safer because of it. People do not understand how grey the areas can be and how thin the margins are. I was born at 28 weeks in the '90s which was the cutting edge of viability at that time. Experimental treatments saved my life. I was fortunate to be born in Canada where we believe that it is a conversation between a pregnant person and her doctor that the government stays out of. With abortion bans, we are going to have babies who are extraordinarily sick and disabled. Even in countries with socialized medicine, we don't have adequate programs to care for children with complex disabilities. I would love to live in a world where every disabled baby and child is well cared for and gets the treatment they need to survive and thrive but we're not there yet. I do not subscribe to eugenics and I am not in favour of de facto abortions for infants with Down Syndrome, for example. However, it is unbelievably cruel to force someone to carry a pregnancy to term when they know that the baby's medical condition is not compatible with life or not compatible with any sort of quality of life.
@@mo.ka.9661 Not necessarily. An abortion *terminates the pregnancy*. Pregnancies can and do exist where there is no fetus (I think that's what you mean by "whole organism") to be removed. Also, "whole organism" isn't a medical term, and has no real meaning. Abortion is health care, and it's important to be precise when talking about medical information and the patient's health care decisions.
@anniejuan1817 Wrong. Birth terminates a pregancy. An abortion terminates a prenatal life. An embryo is also a whole organism. It doesn't have to be medical terminology, the message is conveyed all the same. It's not important at all, just pedantic nitpicking on your end. Abortion is the opposite of healthcare.
Thank you for your video. As someone who lives in a state where the will of the people is not listened to about abortion rights, breaking down mis/dis information is imperative.
Yes love your 1 toddler vs 100 embryo concept, because the 1 toddler is an actual living, breathing, thinking, opinionated human and the embryos are "potential" lives.
A sperm is a potential life as well, so men should not masturbate because "every sperm is sacred" (Monty Python): th-cam.com/video/fUspLVStPbk/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely. I have a 1 year old and if someone chose 1000 embryos over her in a fire I would be PISSED! But also it is a ludicrous choice and reinforces the difference of personhood!
Your anger kept me calm. Thank you for reacting like this. The entire topic of misinformation on it makes me so furious (as someone choosing not to have kids) and it was very easy to handle through your video and I appreciate the informational value.
It's not even just, if it sounds wildly inaccurate you need to question it, it's if it seems designed to provoke a strong emotional response you need to question it. We have to remember that our attention spans are basically how a lot of companies make money now. Anything people can say to keep those eyeballs glued to the screen for a few minutes longer they will. This goes for both sides of the political spectrum
To be transparent, I have never had an abortion. I am not "pro-abortion". I have been pregnant 4 times. One ended in a miscarriage and 3 in live births, all of those individuals still living. Was I ever in a position to consider abortion? Yes. And I was fortunate enough to have a choice. My choice has always been life. However, I do not have the right to make that choice for another woman. And, I was fortunate enough to live in a state and in a time where the choice was truly mine. I can't imagine having that choice dictated to me by the government, or anyone else. Pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. It means I mind my business and would thank Trump and those who think as he does to mind theirs.
Pregnant with an ivf baby and I can safely say, if I had to choose between saving my child and saving the five other potential children we currently have frozen in a lab, I'd save my baby. It would suck to lose those embreyos because they were expensive and painful to create but the idea of putting them in the same catagory as a living, breathing child is laughable. I love my son. I like the idea of the potential future children I might have with those frozen embreyos. I am indifferent to the embreyos as a thing.
@@erikabutterfly Any living baby being is worth more than 5 frozen embryos. Unless you're an actual psychopath. A stray cat is more important that 5 frozen embryos. Because the cat is a living creature that feels pain, and can survive outside the freezer for more than an hour, or however long it takes the embryo container to thaw.
Thank you. What you're doing is important. The only thing I can think of that might affect disinformation is having good information out there, and you're doing that.
My friend had a third trimester abortion, she had dna tested ivf as she is a carrier for Tay Sachs. They already had a teenage daughter with it. They had the embryos teated and 2 where put back that where meant to be clear. They both took. At 30 wks they discovered that one of the babies had tay sachs, they knew they ciuldnt go through looking after another child with it, and they opted for a late abourtion. She then carried him to 37 weeks when she had both him and his sister. She found it very hard as they had so much faith that the teating was correct. It really was heart breaking. Myself i have had a termination. I was in an abusive relationship and he didnt believe in putting chemicals into your body so i used the persona machine that tracked your cycles. Obviously it didnt work and i fell pregnant. He told me that i had to get rid of it or else he would get tid of me, by then he had me believing that nobody would ever want me. I will say mentally it did screw me over a bit but i think it was because i wanted the child but i believed him. I did get free of him and met a wonderful man who we have now been married almost 22yrs and have 3 children.
Thanks so much for your content Mama Jones, but I was starting to get too aggravated to finish this one right now. I will circle back when I’m in a better headspace, but that people actually believe this stuff is just… we are so screwed.
Personhood is such a red herring. We need to meet personhood arguments with “I don’t care if the fetus was fifty years old inside my womb curing cancer and writing poetry, abortion is healthcare and should be legal”.
Honestly true. I think life does begin at conception, but I don't think that's relevant. Abortion is no worse morally imo than killing a mouse. But then I don't really believe in sanctity of life, and most prolifers do.
@@FarimiraEven if you think it's morally the same as killing a person, the argument still applies. We can't have self defense laws and not abortion. How crazy is it that corpses have more rights than pregnant women?
I honestly think the idea of a 50 year old living off their organs without their consent would be the only way to reach these people. But they are also incapable of the level of critical thinking needed to understand such hypotheticals. (and I'm not just saying that as a haha, dunking on the republicans; it's just a legitimate problem that they cannot imagine something they are not directly experiencing.)
I’d love one of them to explain how an abortion is performed after the baby is born, I mean, do they put it back in first? I feel like they kept them so distracted with so many lies and so much carnival nonsense, they didn’t give them a chance to actually think about what they were being told!
My dad: A ton of women are skipping around and getting abortions! They should use production and take responsibility Also my dad, who freaked out when I “almost” got pregnant (I knew I wasn’t pregnant because of protection): You’re not keeping it! Babies take a lot of responsibility to take care of and your life is thrown away, your hobbies are gone! Edit: I’m adopted
It doesn't surprise me. In Portugal abortion until the early 2000s abortion was only legal in case of rape, mother serious health issues, malformation of the fetus. But since a few decades no one would face criminal charges if they had an abortion. Then I remember quite well listening to my cousin who was afraid she could be pregnant and if that was the case she would have an abortion. Fast forward a few years later there was a referendum to legalize elective abortion until, if I'm not wrong, 10 weeks of pregnancy and to my surprise the same cousin voted against it. Hopefully the result of the referendum legalised abortion in Portugal
My dad genuinely believes that they’re trying to “abort” children after they are born. I tried to correct him and say “no one states governor suggested that babies born with a fatal condition (like they would pass away within days of birth) might be eligible for euthanasia with the parents consent, because at that point it might be more humane to let a baby pass away peacefully than to let them suffer for days or weeks when there’s no chance at all that they will survive for longer”. My dad said “no I know what you’re talking about, but that’s not what I’m talking about, there’s other people saying that post birth abortion is ok, I’ve seen it.” And at that point I knew there was no reasoning with him.
Except it's not. In a situation like that you act quickly, based on emotion. We are all more emotionally likely to save the crying toddler. That doesn't mean the embryos aren't human. Most people would save their own child over a stranger's twins or over a random preschool class. That doesn't say anything about the inherent humanity and value of the parties involved.
Random little comment about something you offhandedly said at the beginning of the video. Something about curing headaches instead of causing them. I thought some people might wonder how a gynecologist can cure headaches. Quick little story. I suffered migraines for my entire life from almost the moment I started my period. My periods were bad enough (I mean like, hauled off by paramedics and in the hospital bad), but those constant migraines made things so much worse. Many times lying on the bathroom floor blind and vomiting begging my mother to k*ll me. My life was constant torture. I couldn't get help for my periods or my migraines. I was "too young for a hysterectomy", I would "regret it when I'm older", I would "definitely want kids someday". You know all the stupid crap doctors say to women who know nothing about what they live with every day. Silly ignorant women. In addition, I couldn't get certain types of birth control that might help my cycles because of my history with migraines. Every doctor either assumed I was faking and being dramatic so did nothing, or they tried to shove narcotics down my throat for both problems, even when I was only a teenager. Fast forward 28 years of constant torture, and FINALLY a very kind OB/GYN decided that I was correct that a hysterectomy was my best option. I finally had that cursed uterus removed in January of 2020 (thankfully that "elective" surgery squeeked in before covid shut everything down). I have been living without the constant illness of my periods since then. I have also not had a migraine in almost 5 years. They instantly stopped. So yes, an OB/GYN can cure headaches too. Now if only there was some way to cure something very much like PTSD from decades of constant fear and pain. Not much to do about that I suppose. I can just live thankful that I am better now.
The wide eyes at 1:44 ... I stg I make that same face at least three or four times a day, more if politics come up at work. Some of my coworkers believe that viable, often completely healthy, late-term fetuses are aborted on the daily and result in a live baby crying on the table for hours while the doctors and nurses all stand around watching it until it dies. Nobody gets a late-term abortion for shits n gigs, or because they've suddenly realized a baby would inconvenience them, and it's so incredibly cold-hearted and unkind to accuse the heartbroken and hope-shattered parent(s) of doing so. And also to presume that the caring professionals working in OBGYN are all complicit in it. Sorry for the super-long comment, but oh my word... I'm just so disappointed in these people. And so, so angry.
Kristan Hawkins and her nonprofit, students for life, regularly spew this data. They lied about the preventable death of Amber Thurman, too. Isn't it odd the family of Amber can't seek defamation from youtube for hosting that content? Section 230. Anyone can lie about how we die and even our families can't do anything while social media profits from the lie. That's not good.
I don't want to say my high school specifically taught the following, and not that it was just one crazy old man teacher who rarely taught, but... He said that even after a baby is born, they will put the baby in a bucket and put the lid on. He was also supposed to teach us the rhythm method that was in the text book, but he rarely had us use our books. I don't believe the rhythm method should be the only source of family planning, but I do think young uterus owners should be more in touch with their own body and not afraid or repulsed by it, and learning your own personal rhythm is valuable.
the rhythm method is tricky to teach in schools because it usually takes a few years for the menstrual cycles to become regular. So most teenagers won't have a menstrual cycle with a reliable length. The rhythm method done correctly can be effective but it's not appropriate for situations when it would be disastrous to become pregnant. Even if you tell teenagers "this is a method you could use in the future if you want to but it's not ideal for teenagers", teenagers will probably try to use it anyway to avoid the embarrassment of going out to get other contraceptives.
I had a preemie 30 years ago at 25 weeks gestation. I had a major hemorrhage at 20 weeks that required 2 units of blood. I feinted in the bathroom. The baby’s heart rate plummeted. My doctor had a frank talk with me about abortion during this crisis. I did not want an abortion at any cost. She had to explain to me that the loss of my life would guarantee the loss of the baby’s life. She told me that she would do everything she could to stop the bleeding but if she couldn’t there would be no choice. It would be malpractice to allow me to bleed out. The treatment worked. I hemorrhaged again at 24 weeks and needed 3 units of blood. But things had shifted during this time. We, the baby and I, had reached the point of viability. The transfusion gave us an extra week. She prepared for an early delivery by giving me steroids that would help the baby’s lungs to mature. I hemorrhaged again a week later. I was passing blood faster than the doctor could replace it. I had a very low platelet count and was in danger of bleeding out. The only hope we had was a delivery. The odds of his survival was 50/50. The chance that he would suffer cerebral palsy, blindness, deafness, brain bleed, or perforation of the bowel was high with a 90% chance of compromise. In addition, the respiratory system would likely be damaged by the machinery used to oxygenate him. He nearly died of pneumonia twice during his stay in the NICU. His stay cost the insurance a half million. We were blessed. He survived without serious compromise. The whole experience was like a scary nightmare, not only for me, but for all of the medical staff that took care of us. I can’t express enough the gratitude I feel for them. While I am comfortable sharing this 30 years later, I was mortified by the experience then. I felt that my body had failed and that I was on display to everyone. During such a stressful time, privacy needs to be guarded. These decisions need to be between me, my family and my God. I Do Not however believe that abortion should be used as a latent form of birth control or gender selection. Human life is precious and should be respected. Therefore I cannot say that I am pro abortion on demand. But I will say that it needs to be an option made with care and discretion.
it just baffles me that you cannot take the organs of a DEAD body without the persons prior written consent when they were alive but you can use a living woman's womb to incubate an unwanted/unplanned/risky pregnancy against their will.
By Jewish Religious laws - you protect the mothers life FIRST, then anything else after. Just from a Religious Freedom* (only if you are not Jewish) stand point - these laws are uncostitutional.
Yep, many men are threatened by highly intelligent, independent, strong, confident women who will take their jobs. These men don’t want to report to a woman. That is why Hillary and Harris were unable to get support from men. Democrats can never run another woman for president because men’s mentality about women will never change.
Mama Doctor Jones, just an idea here. One of the other commenters here brought up the California Assembly Bill No. 2223 (nicknamed the “Infanticide Bill” by those on the political right. Could you do a video to explain that? Maybe even do a collab with Legal Eagle? I know the law was passed in 2022, but it's still relevant.
I feel like this, just because it's not something I feel I could personally do, doesn't mean that I have the right to force my feelings onto other people. Not my body, not my life, not my choice. Laws do not stop abortion, it just makes it unsafe and unsanitary like it was back in the day. Just like gun laws or drug laws doesn't stop it. It just means people do whatever they want in shady ways. It's fine to tell a woman what she can do with her own body, but it's not ok to ban all guns?? Make it make sense. "But guns don't kill people, idiots do".. Well safe abortion generally doesn't kill people, but that crazy dude you met on the back alley with a fantasy of "easy and quick" termination does... It may sound like I'm comparing apples to oranges, but I'm just trying to demonstrate just how stupid and dangerous banning abortion is. Medical advice is only supposed to be given by medical providers, and last I checked, the idiots making and passing these laws aren't doctors, and more specific OB/GYN. They have zero rights to give medical advice for medical issues or procedures.
3:06 for reference on this topic from the religious perspective I’d like to give some context. I’m interested in the study of religion and have a degree in interdisciplinary religious studies. Pro life circles tend to have their own information silo and they love to rehash the case of Kermit Gosnell over and over as proof of this practice. The general population frequently have no idea who Gosnell even is so it’s worth understanding what he did and the impact it has when pro life groups show a documentary or movie on him then claim that what he did is rampant. They lead people to believe that his practice is the norm. Sowing a grain of truth to cultivate a field of falsehoods is extremely effective.
We need something like this for Canadians. We have a lot of people who think because our Conservatives don't push abortion banning out loud that they won't do anything if they are in office DESPITE attempts to create a fetal personhood bill and Conservative Premeirs making it harder to access abortions in their Provinces. Members of Parliament's voting records are public and even that doesn't convince them because "they didn't say they would ban it, they just oppose it morally". Was really hopeful for you guys to have Kamala as your new President both because you guys deserve better than Trump and also because a lot of the Republican rhetoric makes its way to us. We have "Maple MAGA". I hope the next 4 years are kind to us all.
Canadian women really have to watch out. The reason for the abortion ban is control of women. Conservativism is about increasing hierarchy. That means more power and wealth to the already powerful and wealthy. It means increasing every aspect of the society's hierarchy, and making it harder for each group down a rung. They will never make poor men as a group wealthier. They can only make poor men feel higher by allowing them greater ability to exploit, control, and take their frustrations out on other groups. Here, white women as a group voted their race. The US has a whole lot of rungs, so white women have a big buffer. It may be a while before the rumblings about also taking away no-fault divorce and other ways women can escape men come to reality. Before catering to incels is how conservatives keep that white "working class" vote. But in Canada..... You have a whole lot fewer "others" to step on. Conservatives will have to put pressure on white women in ways that equal or exceed the US to be able to put equal economic pressure on white men, and do it faster than here.
Every single parent that’s had to have a “late term abortion” had to go home empty handed and dismantle a nursery. Every one. Every single parent was expecting to have a child and choosing to have the child. The “choice” part of “pro-choice” had been made *months* before that point. And they’re allowed to choose to let themselves die legally, but the whole thing about wanting to have a child is you’re usually starting your life, starting a new chapter, starting a new family…and you usually wanna be around for that.
This made me cry. So true. 😢
Not to mention a lot of them already have a kid at home so continuing a pregnancy that will kill the mother isn't really an option for those families.
yeah. late term abortions are emotionally devastating. they are people who already decided to have the baby and were looking forward to it and excitedly preparing.
Sending SO MUCH love and hugs to every person who's had to experience this. It makes it all that much more gut wrenching to see these pro-birth propaganda demonize these people's horrific experiences. Makes me angry for them.
For my 2nd pregnancy, I would have had to deal with the choice of when to end the pregnancy, had the timing been just a little different.
26 week loss of a baby girl that was wanted, but she was only measuring less than 22 weeks. So she'd stopped growing but nothing seemed off until she was gone and I went in to get checked out due to her not moving. The choice I was then given was when to be induced (I waited for the following morning) so I could give birth to my dead baby.
It makes me so mad that people believe women are just getting rid of their babies willy nilly, especially the later into pregnancy they get.
"Do your own research." - Someone who has not, in fact, done their own research
100%!
They're told, "go to stupidstats.falsehoods and read it for yourself! This is your research. We've done it for you. We're very helpful that way."
They saw something on Facebook, though!
@@claireful Yeah - the medical school of Facebook.
@ surely people so confident couldn’t be wrong. Surely!!
… Okay I can’t keep doing parody because it sounds too much like what I hear real people say and it hurts my head. As a researcher there is very little that bugs me as much as anti-science sentiment or people calling social media a source.
But being in this comment section feels like being among my own people so hugs to you and everyone reading this!
Worse, they have done their own research. They've just ignored everything that runs counter to their worldview, thinking of it as disinformation.
My state just banned abortion and legalized medical marijuana in the same election. I don't understand 😭
Let me explain. Some guys like to smoke and don’t like when women have rights
Move to a different state with all the money we are all about to have.
@@nytashaandersen What money?
@@nytashaandersen You are not correct.
@@nytashaandersen😂😂😂😂😂 I know this is sarcasm…too funny.
People who claim it's common for women to change their minds late in pregnancy for no reason apparently are the type to drive across the USA, and in the last few miles from their destination change their minds and go back home.
Exactly!!! You might have had carsickness, not eaten or slept well, were constantly alert, and uncomfortable sitting for a long time and having a seat belt tied around you. But then you go 'Nah I don't feel like it, I'll just quit my trip and maybe try again next time' 😕😕
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To play devil's advocate: what if the mother is pregnant with the intention of carrying to term, and then the father either breaks up, or does an unforgivable action like cheating? This seems like a situation that could cause a woman to change her mind about giving birth.
@@carultch My husband cheated and ended our marriage 3 weeks before our child was due. Never for a single second did I think about not having that child.
The mind goes directly to "how do I adjust to this new life? What changes am I going to make to make this work?"
There's also the fact that even before the fall of Roe, it was very hard to get a late term abortion and simply changing your mind was never a valid reason.
@@carultchNo way, I think she'd have to be seriously mentally ill for this to happen. Like those women in postpartum depression who take their own and their babies' lives.
I went and looked into the California law. What the law is for: pregnant people cannot be prosecuted for the death of their baby if their baby is stillborn or dies in the "perinatal" time, which the most generous definition of is up to 28 days (four weeks) after birth. The law was amended to specify that this was if the cause of death was related to the pregnancy (mom took drugs, got into a car accident that injured the baby somehow, etc.) If you're the type to believe the worst of pregnant people or new parents, I can see where they're coming up with this being post-birth abortion!
Thanks for looking into the nuances!!!
Bro, women are not pregnant after giving birth, who is the idiot who wrote this law?
@@pazobackenstein6473
Pretty sure it's just saying that if it happened to the woman in the future after giving birth, not that she's still pregnant lol.
I was trying to look up this as well to see if there was any accuracy to it.
@pazobackenstein6473 that's not what perinatal means
teaching my husband the point of RvW and him being like, "oh I don't see a problem with it being left to the states." and then reminding him that he just said the same phrase the South used when discussing slavery. Yes, I am comparing slavery to birth rights. Human rights are human rights and no one should be forced to LABOR if they don't want to. (like what i did there? LABOR)
If you ask him if gun rights should be given up to the states he might suddenly recognize that some things should be federally protected
Sounds like someone married an uneducated narcissist.
I mean, maybe someone wanted a "morally challenging" husband incapable of thinking critically about human rights issues.
He's probably so happy to be reinsured though that it doesn't matter how he thinks about women's rights... because he obviously can get a wife no matter what stance he takes. So that's nice for him.
Silver linings and stuff.
@@halburke2947 conversely, if we're going to say that bodily autonomy is only a right to be decided at the statewide level, then i want ALL rights to be decided by a statewide vote. i want to go to the ballot box and vote against the 2nd amendment, against the repeal of prohibition, against free speech (we don't have it anyway, might as well start regulating it with some degree of common sense), against warrantless searches and seizures. let's see how these dudes feel about "the states should decide rights" when congress bans pornography and the FBI just busts into their house to search for it with no warning or cause, and they can't even defend themselves with a gun.
You make a point but a false equivalence. Forced birthing is the main wrong with banning abortion and merely one facet of slavery. Two things can't be equal while one contains the other and more still.
@@JediMasterKal Birth is only a small part of it. Carrying a pregnancy to term changes the body forever. Then you give birth and you either raise a child, which changes your life forever, or give up a child (emotional trauma), which changes your life forever and the child could come around looking for you in 18 years anyway.
I don’t know why people think woman choose abortions Willy nilly for no reason, ESPECIALLY later in the pregnancy. 16 weeks with my rainbow baby, thankfully they have been healthy so far (next appointment is later this week). I couldn’t imagine carrying a child this long with all the illness I’ve experienced and just deciding one day that I didn’t want it… women who carry these babies into the 2nd and 3rd trimester more than likely wanted those babies to thrive. To make a heartbreaking and life saving decision into a political stunt is insane to me.
Sending you all of the positive vibes and love internet stranger 🖤. I hope everything is absolutely fantastic for you and baby at your next appointment 🖤🖤.
@ Thank You! feeling more comfortable and confident now that we are in our 2nd trimester. We lost our first pregnancy back in April so the fear of losing this one too is pretty fresh still. Hoping that all will be good at our appointment!
Also imagine in a hypothetical utopia. The idea of someone wanting an abortion at all is bs. Coz even if everything is affordable and there don't have to worry about sick days from work or affording Healthcare etc, nobody wants to be in a situation where they want or need an abortion. Even in a utopic society where there could be no negative repercussions and consequences. No one wants to take time out of their day to go to a clinic or hospital and have an abortion. It's a medical procedure. People who say that women will have abortions whenever willy nilly just not have protection get pregnant and just oh oops abort it I'll have my 19th abortion are saying similar to people just wanting an appendectomy repeatedly. If anyone wanted to take time out of their day they'll wanna do that for something they enjoy or need.
And on top of that we don't live in that utopia. Taking a sick day off work is a tough decision. Some people live paycheck to paycheck with and/or without children they already have. The procedure of an abortion would be expensive as it is on top of the Healthcare that they they barely afford if even at all. Plus recovery. And time itself is valuable. Time that could be spent picking up their kids or grocery shopping or working very much needed hours or resting etc.
None of these and more are the conservatives considering.
@@manikpink6771 I'm so sorry for your prior loss. Prayers & best wishes to you, mama! I hope that in a few months you'll be snuggling your perfectly healthy baby ❤️
Got my fingers crossed for you and your kiddo, hon. (HUG)
I'm from eastern Europe (a region that is generally considered less developed than the west) and I can not believe what is happening in the US in this day and age. jeez
@@CleverButClueless Philip DeFranco calls the US “a third world country with a Gucci belt”, and my god, is that not an accurate statement!
Europe = 1982
America = 1864
It is because we have had a Democrats in office for the past 4 years that's exactly what the problem is we were not in the state of dismay before this Administration
@@katythepsychiclady2342 covid was tough for all of the world
Sadly, believe it. 😢
Wait by the "after birth abortion" logic does this mean if an adult gets murdered someone could also get charged with helping with an after birth abortion
No they claim you can kill the baby "up to 4 weeks"
No, has to be with in 4 weeks of birth. 😬
What if it’s a president who acts like an infant 🤔 asking for a friend
@@raigenhuss7030 I don’t wish him dead, but he does act like a toddler. I wish he would just go away to jail where he belongs.
Careful, you’re about to be in the early stages of a dictatorship.
LED by a vindictive man child who will certainly lash out at his ‘enemies’
Im literally still having this argument with my mother. She'll believe the TV telling her post-birth abortions are real, and not her daughter with an M.S. and B.S.
I'm in the same situation. I think the problem is they grew up in the 50s and 60s when you could believe what the news was reporting. There was rules about reporting facts. Older Americans just don't realize/understand that just because something seems like a news report, doesn't mean it's actually 100% truth. They're not used to having to do the work and research facts.
@@jennthya6982 There still are rules, they're supposed to report truthfully. But they've learned they can always present a brief, insincere, and easily-forgotten retraction/apology after the damage is done.
"Just because you have that education doesn't make you an authority! It doesn't mean you know any better."
Said to me by someone I know and care about. Said to me by someone who often gets angry with me when they think I've said something with the intent to hurt them. Never have I ever said anything to hurt them. Never would I say anything like that. If someone should feel hurt by the words used during our conversations, I'm the one who should be hurt because they're saying my education, my experience, and my ongoing work to stay current with the best practices related to the subject(s) mean absolutely nothing. That somehow anyone who would waste their money on an education to provide quality care for them, their families, or the community is ridiculously well-educated but woefully inept at understanding the "facts".
It's offensive.
But, who do all these people turn to when they're in pain? Who do these people turn to when they're suddenly bleeding copiously and can't stanch the flow? Who do these people turn to when they can't breathe?
So, educated, but dumb. Educated, but ill-equipped to understand the facts as determined by those who have ZERO education and licensing in healthcare. Educated, but not qualified for anything until, "Oh, my lord! I'm in danger and need your help!"
@@jennthya6982 Here it might also be the case of a parent not taking their child seriously. I've experienced this mentality of "you might be book educated, but I have more life experience and know the world better". If a peer friend who they respect said the same thing, they'd probably be more likely to listen.
There's absolutely nothing I could say that would change my parents' minds about anything.
There's so much misinformation spread through this country and the fact it's been allowed to go on this long unchecked is criminal.
And if you have a problem with it, you’re “against free speech” 💀
Section 230. Social media platforms are not held accountable for lies they host that absolutely profits the platform. If section 230 stands as is, misinformation can kill any nation.
Tbf, are the platforms correcting them? No.
But there are so many professionals speaking out and offering corrections with sources, with studies, with FACTS.
And looking into even MDJ's comments, you'll see idiots that continue to say "No. That's wrong."
One big lie from Trump was that young children are dropped off at school a boy and that their child is returned to them a girl. Who in their right mind believes elementary schools have full hospitals tucked in the coat closet ? This lie made the rounds online.
even better- the criminals at fault get into positions of power! :D
/sarcasm
Abortion after 20 weeks is a wanted child. An excited parent goes to the anatomy scan and finds out something heartbreakingly tragic about their very wanted pregnancy, and they then have to make a devastating decision. No one is having a late term abortion through ‘choice’, they made their choice months earlier to continue their pregnancy.
And need to give birth to that dead baby is awful becouse it's to late for tabletts that make your body to absorbe it and bleed out. You must go through the birth knowing the baby is dead
I know a woman who opted for an abortion of a wanted child. She already had 2 kids to care for and had a high-risk pregnancy due to some medical issues with her uterus and something about the position of the baby in her uterus. The doctors said that she had about a 25% chance of dying from internal bleeding once the baby grew too big, because something was in danger of rupturing. If she had wanted to keep the baby, she would also have had to be on bed rest for months and not be able to work or care for her 2 kids that she already had. She wasn't about to take those odds, even though she had wanted to have that 3rd child. She was pretty devastated.
I think this is where people are not pro or against abortion- they want it to be unnecessary. If we had safety guards in place and scientists making an effort to make it easier for women to care for their children and themselves it would help
This where so much disagreement occurs- most anti-abortion proponents are not against D&C for removing a dead body. They are against termination of a fetus who can’t survive outside of mom- seen as an end of life respect while abortion proponents advocate that it makes the later birth process more painful emotionally
@@frostsong9921 one of the problems with anti-abortion legislation is that it criminalises the "grey area", where the circumstances are not quite as clear-cut as in the textbook. If an abortion is allowed to save the life of the mother, but only when she is in immediate danger of dying, life-saving interventions will be delayed until absolutely necessary, increasing the danger of complications. If the fetus is dying but not quite dead, and abortion is only allowed for dead fetuses, this will prolong the mental and physical suffering of the mother while waiting for the inevitable.
I agree with your other point though, that most people are not "pro abortion", and most people in the pro-choice camp would like to see abortion rates decline due to other measures like education, protection, affordable and safe birth control, better healthcare, and social and financial safeguards to make sure no child is aborted due to financial worries. However, anti-abortion laws often ignore the many roots of the problem, which are left unsolved, and the people who are affected are left with more worries than before.
Well, apparently 71M Americans don't gaf about women's rights and decided the idea of cheap eggs and gas with a side of propaganda was the better option. 🥰 We are so fvcked. Blessed be.
Temporarily cheap eggs and gas. Wait till the no taxes and tariffs catch up to the middle and lower class.
@@Onionfries-cz4woexactly. From 10-60% in freaking tariffs.
SIXTY PERCENT- specifically aimed at china, but most of the US goods come from china….
Y’all, the US is about to go down in flames. 💔
That's gonna backfire on them really hard. When the orange anus imposes tariffs, and prices skyrocket for everydamnthing... they'll blame someone else. Sigh
Handmaids tail reference noted.
I'm in hell 🙃
Here's where the murdering babies conspiracy comes from: if a baby is born alive but has severe health complications to the point there is nothing medical professionals can do to save or prolong its life, the parents have the option of refusing resuscitation and letting the baby pass. Take anencephaly for example: the baby will typically only live for a matter of hours, and there is nothing doctors can do to stop the baby from dying. Instead of spending the couple of hours it has on this earth being worked on by doctors when there is no hope of saving its life, the parents may choose to refuse any life extending care and simply spend the last moments that child has with them and let the baby pass in their arms. There may be cases where the parents can't emotionally handle holding the baby or watching it die, and Republicans use those instances to say that they handed their baby over and told doctors to kill it (not true, but thats how they use these circumstances to perpetuate their lies). They are using these very unique circumstances in which they allow newborns to pass away, and are applying it like anyone who has a healthy baby can just request it be killed. This is how they take a grain of truth and turn it into a silo of lies. Its heartbreaking to think that they may use this disinformation to regulate against allowing terminally ill newborns to pass away peacefully with their parents, and doctors may be required to constantly revive the child or perform fruitless surgeries on a baby that has no chance of surviving.
Exactly. Memes and buzzwords that ignore context and detailed explanations and in the process twist the original meaning.
Thank you for explaining. Now I understand
That's what I was thinking about like hospice cases when they kept saying that
Why didn't the reporter ask that man why he thinks a woman would carry a pregnancy for NINE MONTHS and then just say, "Yeah, never mind, just kill it."? He has absolutely no respect for the work it takes to bring a life, the person who does the work and the doctor who swears an oath. It's insane. The lack of respect for mothers and the work they do TO ENSURE THE CONTINUATION OF THE FREAKING SPECIES is grotesque.
Some of these people think the mothers are coerced by evil doctors. Which is nonsense.
(Ensure, not insure)
But I agree with you.
Took that half joking comment of "I brought you into this world I can take you back out" W A Y too literally lmao.
Because it wasn't a reporter! He's from the good liars. On top of that, once they are telling you " do your research ", they're in a cult... whatever you tell them doesn't come through, believe me, I tried... they are so far into the conspiracy theories and Trumpism, facts that we know as facts, they have other "facts" from gaslighting
Wow, you stated that so well ❤
It hurts my head when people don't actually know what abortion includes. Miscarriage, still born late term pregnancy. They just think it's just 1 thing and not providing needed medical care at any and all conditions.
The level of ignorance is astounding!
They see the medical terminology and refuse to look at the many nuances.
And by medical definition, even pre-term induced labor resulting in a living infant is still considered a late-term abortion. ANYTHING that ends a pregnancy, regardless of the outcome of the fetus, prior to term is medically an abortion.
That's why pro-life laws define what "abortion" means in their context to avoid confusion. Because there is a difference between abortion and miscarriage, even if miscarriages are medically called "abortions". Failure to provide miscarriage care is a nationwide medical malpractice issue that has nothing to do with pro-life laws.
@ They’re the same medical procedure. Why you’re doing it is the only difference. How do you legislate thoughts?
I actually think it was good pete didn’t correct the statistics and just focused on getting his point across. I think it would have just devolved into a stats and sources back and forth and instead he focused on humanizing and helping people empathize with a situation potentially wildly different from anything they’ve ever experienced.
i can tell it was an old clip because chris wallace was there, and fuck him for playing into the fox news propaganda. fortunately buttigieg got way better at navigating the fox news machine since then and now he can cut them down with a one-liner before they have time to interrupt. i would have turned it back around on him: do you think licensed physicians are performing elective abortions on third-trimester fetuses for no reason? do you think a mother whose dearly beloved child has a fetal anomaly incompatible with life should be forced to carry that child to term, knowing it will die regardless and putting her at risk for complications in the meantime?
Go to time code 7:20 - he literally states LESS THAN 1%, I feel that's the most efficient statement in the context of a town hall.
Agreed, he may not have even known the specifics of the number, but it’s irrelevant anyway. I’m glad the rest of the clip was played.
The post-birth abortion comes from a distorted interview with a Virginia governer. He was talking about 3rd trimester abortions where the fetus had severe deformities, or wasn't viable, and the mother requested it while in labor. His answer was, “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam says in a video from the 2019 interview being shared online. “The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” and this was taken out of context. It wasn't talking about healthy infants. No woman is changing their minds in the 3rd trimester and getting an abortion for the lolz. It's always a horribly tragic reasoning for it.
Right! They’re demonizing and distorting the process of providing literal palliative care to dying newborns, simply to fit an agenda. It’s horrifying that they can just outright lie like this.
*gasp*
Didn't she cover that before? I have a vague memory of it, but it could have been another politician
The amount of "your body, my choice" rhetoric in the past week since the election has been absolutely disgusting. With him winning, it's like people have decided it's okay to outwardly be an awful, hateful person🥴 so openly cheering for rights being taken away, the cloak is gone and they're not even pretending it's about the life of the potential child anymore.. I'm depressed.
Fully agree with the people who say those men need to be added to a certain registry.... IDK if they are just trying to "look tough" and are feeling powerful with their internet anonymity. You don't say things like that, not even as a joke, it's not funny. It's a HUGE red flag.
'You have to respect our opinion' no. I don't.
the best thing I've seen about this very thought, is that if it was truly "pro-LIFE" then there would be a lot more after birth assistance. and these "pro-lifers" are in reality just pro-birth.
@@dissodatore also better access to prenatal care... overall better Healthcare, honestly.
Canada isn't perfect but at least people aren't limited on the care they get based on insurance.
There are crazy waiting times in ERs if you're not urgently needing care. At least where I live there isn't an official urgent care, so the ER often times overwhelmed when walk in clinics are closed.
If I was in the US when I had our first baby we would likely still be paying off the bill from NICU stay. We pay taxes here, sure, but it's not anywhere near what it would have cost us for insurance deductibles, co-pays, and everything.
The most expensive medical related thing we have gotten was my IUD which was $300CAD and my husband had a really nice prescription and dental plan through his work which covered 80% of that. And optometry and dental work, would be paid for out of pocket too, but many jobs have plans for those too and cover a good percentage.
Even here in Australia there's been young men chanting this at women. It's horrifying.
I’m from the UK and feel so sorry for the women in the US right now ❤
We're scared. The smart ones anyway.
I'm from the UK too , makes you appreciate our system of healthcare more, can't even imagine how US women feel right now
I'm from the United States, and I feel sorry for us, too.
From the US. More angry than anything.
Yeah, I hate Transgender insanity in women's sports, women are being treated unfair and horrible. I also don't like when you see unborn children as garbage, they deserve to live no matter if they're healthy or sick. It's not your choice, your child shares 50% of your DNA. If you don't want it, you can give to adoption, there will always be good people. Anyway, Trump is very open and doesnt want to ban abortion, let the states decide it.
I know so many people who've had to abort wanted pregnancies. For non-progression, fatal anomalies, life-threatening pregnancy complications, and needing chemotherapy. Most of these people later became (or already were) wonderful parents. Thanks to accessing safe abortion.
It's sad the people who need to see this video won't watch it. In case someone does stumble upon this video and reads the comments, there is no town, city, state, territory, or Native American Tribal Nation in the United States where k*lling a baby after it is born is legal.
I'm sure very few people believe that. I've never heard that argument and those two are obviously way off base. I'm sure what they actually heard or read was that in some states (at least Minnesota) if an abortion is attempted but the baby is born alive, medical aid does not have to be rendered to that baby. In Minnesota, that is a new change to the language of a law written in 1976 that required an attempt to save the life of the infant accidentally born alive.
@@SkyesoceaneyesYes, I think that's what's meant. Whenever someone talks about "post birth abortion" and goes into detail about what they mean, they usually cite something like this. I've never heard someone seriously argue that it's legal anywhere to actively harm a newborn. I wish it would be expressed differently, so there would be fewer misunderstandings about this.
As a Canadian on election night, I was following the ballot measure and cheering on the states who voted to protect abortion rights. It was disheartening to see that even in Florida a majority voted to extend protections but the 60% threshold made it so that the measured failed. 😢
That 60% threshold was passed some years ago, and at the time people didn't understand how it would be used against them. And our own corrupt governor used our taxpayer dollars to spread misinformation via lots of TV advertising.
@@dancing_raptor what does that mean?
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 instead of over 50% needed for it to pass, they need to reach 60% so a simple majority isn't enough
@@bn3842 right
@@bn3842 and they passed that law specifically to make it near-impossible to pass abortion protections in such a closely divided state.
2:01 sadly common sense is a foreign concept to those people. With that logic, we can call school mass shootings after birth abortion. Hell, maybe something would actually done to PREVENT the shootings if it was called after birth abortion.
No, they don't use guns in abortions. They'd ban all oral medication before banning guns.
Hmmmm. Hate to be the one to tell you this, but out here in the rest of the world, many look at the US and say (with only mild sarcasm) , well yeah, they want to ban abortion because they're all fundamentalist Christians who want to protect himan life at any cost, but that's fine because they know the kid will just get shot in primary school, since you can pretty much order an assault rifle online. That is what the USA looks like from the outside, and frankly, it has looked like that for a long, long while now, never mind the latest debacle.
The repeating of “do your research”, then they can’t back up what they are saying with facts
Yet when we provide names of women who passed because hospitals denied miscarriage treatment, they put their fingers in their ears, scream they aren't listening and call it a lie...when there are actual, verifiable, confirmed cases. Facts aren't real to them, it's rumors and lies that make them mad.
My sister had to have an abortion last year when she was 17 weeks pregnant. That baby was loved : she got a name, my sister made her a baby blanket herself, they spent time with her after she gave birth to her. I can hardly even imagine how devastating it must be once you get to the viable date. I too was shocked by thet fact that Pete B. didn't have his facts right not just when it came to data but also to the reason those late term abortions are done. It's not just for the mom's health but also (and dare I say essentially) because of fetal anomalies that weren't detected before.
A good proportion of abortions are couples mostly married, who wanted a baby but things don't go as planned as you said due to fatal fetal anomalies they need to access abortion.
Much love to your sister. What a heartbreaking thing. I'm glad she got the healthcare she needed.
To be fair, Pete correctly stated "LESS than one percent". He also moved on quickly from the stats to the real issue at hand. Realistically, all issues are emotional issues and not logical ones. If he had argued the stats like a robot, people would have lost the message. Instead, he turned a statistic into a story. By weaving a narrative, the listener can easily imagine how intensely difficult that choice must be to decide that a late-term abortion is the best decision.
@@carmenjoydoucette8488 she did because we're in Europe. Not only did she receive the healthcare she needed but it was almost free. They were already going through hell so I'm thankful they didn't get financially strained in addition to the emotional heartache.
@@ciaramc29 Many are because a married couple already has children and can't afford more. And apparently the majority of people who seek an abortion also used some form of prevention that failed. It's not just the expense of a baby, either, but all the prenatal medical care, the hospital (or even home birth) medical costs, etc. If you're already barely scraping by to support the children you have, then you'd have to weigh your desire for another child against your ability to afford one--even if you thought you would be able to put the child up for adoption.
Seeing this after the election just makes me more sad
I'm not surprised tbh. Some Americans don't even know where their country is on a world map.
The day of the election there was a massive spike on people googling "did biden drop out". 🙄
Seriously?? I️ learned that in like probably kindergarten. That’s just disappointing
Tim Walz talking about waiting for that phone call makes me cry every time. I have waited for that phone call. I have gotten the bad news phone call. The way he describes it is so, so real.
Tim didn’t have Hope using IVF… he just likes to stretch the truth for political gain. Or in his own words he “misspoke”. Don’t let his lies pull on your heart strings.
Let's face it: Everyone that voted for Trump voted for themselves... not for others.
They think they did. Middle and lower class will be screwed and only the elite 1% will get anything out of it, especially after terrifs etc.
Some of them even voted against their own individual interests due to misinformation and ignorance 😫
If I had a giant stuffed animal, you'd get the prize... spot on. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during these trying times @macarenacabral4258
@macarenacabral4258 some of them? All of them.
They hurt themselves.... in order to feel like they won something. Sad AF.
When you ask questions like "where did you get this info?" or raise counterpoints such as "but that's not called abortion." Be sure to closely watch the other person's reaction to them.
If they don't address those things, by either stating "it just happens because I know it" or by ignoring them outright and taking a tangent, ou know they have no logical basis. They're only saying things they heard (or read) from "sources" they trust for emotional reasons: parents, teachers they like, neighbors, social media circle, maybe several of these.
Also 14:30 that is so dystopian.
They are sharing tips on how to gaslight all women into supporting them. They are outright telling people, publicly, to use emotional manipulation to garner more votes.
That to me is a very clear confession: "we can't win women's votes by using the truth so here's how to reword everything to make it sound like we're good guys."
This sort of shameless promotion of manipulation should get them imprisoned for a good amount of time and banished for life from any position of power.
They WANT to believe it because it makes them the "good guys", instead of facing facts.
Thank you for continuously supporting women, women’s rights and science!
I also get livid at these 6-7-8-9 month abortions, like it's "la de da I'm tired of this baby." These are often families getting ready for a new addition when something goes wrong. These families are faced with horrific, heartbreaking choices after so much hope. Maybe there are kids ready to be an older brother or sister. These are true tragedies, and they turn these into lies about people just ditching their pregnancy. Shameful when these families suffer such loss.
I can appreciate that some people don’t like abortion and they shouldn’t be forced to have one. There are a million reasons why a woman may need to terminate a pregnancy and the reasons are no one else’s business. I find it gross that anyone, much less a politician, can force you to give birth. Why don’t they worry about all the kids in foster care or are severely disabled? More are coming for sure.
I lived my reproductive years with the right to choose. I feel like we have let young women down and for that I am truly sorry.
"You don't get to force somebody to keep somebody else alive with their body," EXACTLY
Says who?
A bord certified a gynecologist named Mama Doctor Jones
@@LovesDogs-u1r so what if I find a board certificated gynecologist that says otherwise?
@@mo.ka.9661 i say well answer that question when you find one. I wish you luck on your quest, cause its gonna be a hard one
If a person can't be frozen and an embryo can, Poof! not a person.
I heard once that Walt Disney had himself be frozen, hoping to be thawed once the secret to immortality was discovered 😂
This, and with that "child support before birth" that would be such an expensive thing to have frozen embryos.
An embryo is a type of person that can be frozen. Poof.
In Buttigeg's defense it is just so tiring getting hit with propaganda with a half dozen lies in it and having to decide which if those lies to refute.
You can't do them all before you lose the target's interesr
Doctors have ethical codes and standard practices mandated by their medical boards. If a healthy mother has a healthy fetus late enough to be viable, then abortion is very risky. It is generally safer to deliver the baby and then put them into the standard system. Healthy newborns are usually adopted quickly.
AZ had 15 ballot initiatives this year, and 1 was in favour of abortion rights. Some of the initiatives were terrible and unfortunately passed 😭, but I'm happy the abortion one also passed and I did my civic duty to make it happen.
That's one reason why this election was confusing. A lot of abortion protection measures passed in states that went red in the general... Like... do they not realize that the Project 2025/Agenda 47 folks are gunning for a federal restriction or ban on the thing they just voted in
7:24 This is why I respect MDJ, because she uses her expertise to call out people that are giving misinformation REGARDLESS of party and gives the data.
No woman would CHOOSE to go that far into pregnancy and then change their minds.
And no one is choosing an abortion in cases where easier forms of birth control are an option. People say "just don't get pregnant!" But if that was a viable option, then no one would be subjecting themselves to invasive medical procedures or the process of a medication abortion.
@drewjay8940 I'm 9 weeks pregnant right now and I was on birth control, and it happened ONE time in that time period. Birth control is not 100% especially when you're more fertile postpartum
@@kaileeclevenger3981that's why men need to cover up and pull out too, it's not all on the woman!
Can’t finish the video because triggers, but I want to be supportive and encourage you to keep making more videos! I grew up super conservative Christian, and your channel has allowed me to get real facts about reproductive health to replace the lies that I was taught. Thank you, and keep on fighting!
0:47
When it hurts so much all you can do is laugh to stop from losing your entire mind.
Same, I just laughed hysterically, because even though I know people in this country are that stupid it's always shocking to be confronted with it
@@AccidentallyOnPurpose
What’s even worse, the US is reading at a 5th-6th grade level. THEIR VOTE COUNTS JUST AS MUCH AS MINE.
This is disheartening because their lower education is destroying America, as we speak.
I’m broken, I don’t want to stay in the US anymore. I had family vote against me, as a woman, and a woman who has PCOS. Women with PCOS statistically have higher rates of miscarriages.
It’s not a “if” I have a miscarriage, it’s a when.
I’ve grieved the life I thought my husband and I were going to have, especially in the next few years. We were so excited for our future and to start a family, but now everything is up in the air and I honestly don’t know if we will ever have children. We definitely don’t want to stay here in the US.
💔
"Sometimes we have to use our brains" is an understatement in this day and age. xp
As Jimmy Kimmel said... "it was a bad night for democrats, but it was a bad night for republicans too. They just don't know it yet." They'll soon enough see what a grave mistake they made voting for him. Idk about you guys, but I will be happy to sit back and watch the show, when they realize they really screwed themselves over.
Same
@@meowmeowmeowmeowcatoncomputer It's unfortune that everyone will suffer, whether they voted for him or not. I'm also 22 and on my mom's insurance. My dad gets insurance through the affordable care act, and he has diabetes. Idk what he is going to do for his insulin, among a lot of other people who need insurance for their medicine.
Not me, because the rest of us have to suffer along with them...
I would feel this way if I and those I love weren't living here. And all the other people who tried to do the right thing.
I don’t think they’ll see it, though. They’ll be as blind to the fact that their actions have caused negative consequences as they are to the fact that “post-birth termination” is an utterly absurd idea. They believe everything is fine, their choices were correct, and so obviously things will be “great again”. Anything negative either doesn’t exist, or is misinformation promulgated by the left and untrue. That’s how it always goes, and I can’t see it being any different this time.
It infuriates me so much when people come to debates like that with no intention to have a sincere debate. They ask a ridiculous question, they start to get a measured answer, and they go "No no no just answer the question. Look, he doesn't want to answer the question!"
I adore you. Thank you for your advocacy, your care, and your incredibly strong voice.
Here's the thing, first and foremost, I love your channel! Even as somebody who does believe in these fundamental rights and is pro woman's choice, I find myself being educated on a regular basis when I watch your videos. So thank you!
The thing that bothers me is that debunking all of these lies, (because I'm done calling it misinformation/disinformation), all this stuff falls on deaf ears. Because the people that need to hear it are not listening. They are going to other right leaning sources, which are spreading the lies, and they believe them because they're so earnest when they're say it. It sounds like it's real and they look at the left and they see how inclusive we are (supporting LGBT, supporting women, we have progressive ideas) and they just think that we're crazy.
I've had to educate and borderline scold my bf because he's one of these libertarians who says he "believes in abortion, but not up until the 9th month" 🤦🏽♀️ I told him is first of all, you don't have to believe in abortion, it's not a religion, it's a medical procedure. And secondly, nobody's getting an abortion in the 9th month! But this is what we're talking about. I mean, and you know this more than anybody MDJ; There are just people that aren't willing to look at this as a nuanced conversation. It's either black or white to them, and I don't know if we're going to be able to convince those people to step away from those ideas. Even if it is hurting people that they know and love. We're about to FAFO with this new administration... godspeed America ❤
I’m so sad we didn’t get Tim Waltz as VP. 😢
I felt that way in 2016 with Bernie Sanders.
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 This country is bought and paid for.
I am a Catholic and I believe that personhood begins at conception. This belief guides my own choices. God gave us free will and told us not to judge others. That too guides my own choices. Therefore, I do not have the right to impose my beliefs upon another, I do not have the right to judge other people’s choices, and government doesn’t have that right either.
Exactly. I have a deeply Catholic friend who defends free will and the separation of church and state passionately. And we are close friends, even though I come from a culture with more than 8 million gods, none of whom have ever made my uterus their business unless I specifically asked them too.
Amen!
I believe this is how it should be! Yes your beliefs aren't the same as others, whether religious or not, but others shouldn't dictate anyone's bodily autonomy and healthcare plan. I can't imagine using the same logic for other medical conditions that aren't pregnancy. I wished all people could just make their own decisions for themselves and mind their own business. Our world would be a much better place.
the government shouldn't be able to dictate what a woman does with her body. smh 🤦🏻♀️
Not her body.
@@jonathanparks207 where is the womb then?
@@SophieRoseLive So you are saying the human being growing inside the womb and the one who will ultimately suffer from an abortion is also you? Otherwise, I repeat what I say, it is not your body.
@jonathanparks207 So, you would rather force a woman to suffer and bring into the world a child they don't want ? A child they may hate ?
And no adoption isn't going to work . People won't be able to adopt because they have kids themselves
@@hannahdyson7129There are people waiting years to adopt a baby, who will never get the opportunity to do so. It is older toddlers and children who are the ones that are more difficult to place, especially those with disabilities or who require ongoing medical care or special needs being met.
Im from Missouri and my only consolation is that we passed a law repealing the abortion ban and writing abortion rights into our state constitution. I weep for my country and my heart hurts for the women and girls in states without abortion rights.
The vilification of “the other side” has been so effective that people actually believe they are fighting against Monsters.
only one side is actually behaving like monsters though.
Ironically monsters never think of themselves and their actions as monstrous, as seen by Republican voters as well as sexistic judges trampling over human rights and nothing in the system stopping them. And them still framing themselves as saviours.
I’m going to g to be honest, though, is it wrong to call someone a monster for voting to force raped women to give birth, for advocating for transgender patients to not be allowed to receive gender affirming care (but allowing it for cisgender patients), and for believing that Israel should “Finish the job”?
@@GogiRegionno, but I think they meant that people who are trying to protect their lives are being called monsters by the people who are asaulting them
You're so lucky to be living in NZ right now. Thank you for your clear-headed insight.
Calling flat out lies Freedom of speech is just completely hair raisingly stupid. But well, after not wanting a king that walking orange is probably the next best thing.
I'm prochoice because I was born preterm and the result of a high-risk highly complicated pregnancy. Even though my mom would have done everything possible to avoid having an abortion, the option was always there and her pregnancy was made safer because of it. People do not understand how grey the areas can be and how thin the margins are. I was born at 28 weeks in the '90s which was the cutting edge of viability at that time. Experimental treatments saved my life. I was fortunate to be born in Canada where we believe that it is a conversation between a pregnant person and her doctor that the government stays out of. With abortion bans, we are going to have babies who are extraordinarily sick and disabled. Even in countries with socialized medicine, we don't have adequate programs to care for children with complex disabilities. I would love to live in a world where every disabled baby and child is well cared for and gets the treatment they need to survive and thrive but we're not there yet. I do not subscribe to eugenics and I am not in favour of de facto abortions for infants with Down Syndrome, for example. However, it is unbelievably cruel to force someone to carry a pregnancy to term when they know that the baby's medical condition is not compatible with life or not compatible with any sort of quality of life.
An abortion after birth is exactly as possible as a knee replacement after double leg amputation. (i.e. not physically possible.)
It is possible to perform the same action in different locations
An abortion is a procedure removing tissue from the uterus. So I don't get how you can perform an abortion on something that's not in the uterus?
@@LovesDogs-u1r it's removing a whole organism from the uterus
@@mo.ka.9661 Not necessarily. An abortion *terminates the pregnancy*. Pregnancies can and do exist where there is no fetus (I think that's what you mean by "whole organism") to be removed.
Also, "whole organism" isn't a medical term, and has no real meaning. Abortion is health care, and it's important to be precise when talking about medical information and the patient's health care decisions.
@anniejuan1817
Wrong. Birth terminates a pregancy. An abortion terminates a prenatal life.
An embryo is also a whole organism.
It doesn't have to be medical terminology, the message is conveyed all the same. It's not important at all, just pedantic nitpicking on your end.
Abortion is the opposite of healthcare.
I can’t… do I laugh? Do I cry? I feel the answer is both.
Thank you for your video. As someone who lives in a state where the will of the people is not listened to about abortion rights, breaking down mis/dis information is imperative.
Yes love your 1 toddler vs 100 embryo concept, because the 1 toddler is an actual living, breathing, thinking, opinionated human and the embryos are "potential" lives.
A sperm is a potential life as well, so men should not masturbate because "every sperm is sacred" (Monty Python): th-cam.com/video/fUspLVStPbk/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely. I have a 1 year old and if someone chose 1000 embryos over her in a fire I would be PISSED! But also it is a ludicrous choice and reinforces the difference of personhood!
Your anger kept me calm. Thank you for reacting like this. The entire topic of misinformation on it makes me so furious (as someone choosing not to have kids) and it was very easy to handle through your video and I appreciate the informational value.
It's not even just, if it sounds wildly inaccurate you need to question it, it's if it seems designed to provoke a strong emotional response you need to question it. We have to remember that our attention spans are basically how a lot of companies make money now. Anything people can say to keep those eyeballs glued to the screen for a few minutes longer they will. This goes for both sides of the political spectrum
As an egg donor, I understand the importance of reproductive assistance! It would be cool to see a MDJ video about how IVF works.
Ooooh that would be neat. I’d love to learn more about it
This needs an " eye roll" emoji! OMG...the misinformation! The lack of critical thinking!
There was never a removal of the misinformation. Even fox is profitable after the dominion defamation debacle.
To be transparent, I have never had an abortion. I am not "pro-abortion". I have been pregnant 4 times. One ended in a miscarriage and 3 in live births, all of those individuals still living. Was I ever in a position to consider abortion? Yes. And I was fortunate enough to have a choice. My choice has always been life. However, I do not have the right to make that choice for another woman. And, I was fortunate enough to live in a state and in a time where the choice was truly mine. I can't imagine having that choice dictated to me by the government, or anyone else. Pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. It means I mind my business and would thank Trump and those who think as he does to mind theirs.
Pregnant with an ivf baby and I can safely say, if I had to choose between saving my child and saving the five other potential children we currently have frozen in a lab, I'd save my baby. It would suck to lose those embreyos because they were expensive and painful to create but the idea of putting them in the same catagory as a living, breathing child is laughable. I love my son. I like the idea of the potential future children I might have with those frozen embreyos. I am indifferent to the embreyos as a thing.
If it was a choice between someone else's toddler or your five embryos, I'm guessing the choice would be harder to make.
@@erikabutterfly Any living baby being is worth more than 5 frozen embryos. Unless you're an actual psychopath.
A stray cat is more important that 5 frozen embryos. Because the cat is a living creature that feels pain, and can survive outside the freezer for more than an hour, or however long it takes the embryo container to thaw.
Thank you. What you're doing is important. The only thing I can think of that might affect disinformation is having good information out there, and you're doing that.
My friend had a third trimester abortion, she had dna tested ivf as she is a carrier for Tay Sachs. They already had a teenage daughter with it. They had the embryos teated and 2 where put back that where meant to be clear. They both took. At 30 wks they discovered that one of the babies had tay sachs, they knew they ciuldnt go through looking after another child with it, and they opted for a late abourtion. She then carried him to 37 weeks when she had both him and his sister. She found it very hard as they had so much faith that the teating was correct. It really was heart breaking.
Myself i have had a termination. I was in an abusive relationship and he didnt believe in putting chemicals into your body so i used the persona machine that tracked your cycles. Obviously it didnt work and i fell pregnant. He told me that i had to get rid of it or else he would get tid of me, by then he had me believing that nobody would ever want me.
I will say mentally it did screw me over a bit but i think it was because i wanted the child but i believed him.
I did get free of him and met a wonderful man who we have now been married almost 22yrs and have 3 children.
I know a person who lost their granddaughter at the age of 3 to Tay Sachs. It's heartbreaking.
@dirtbagdeacon it's such a cruel condition.
Thank you for sharing your story ❤
What about HIPPA does that no longer apply for women and their own health care???!!!
Yeah, I've noticed that the folks clamoring for access to women's medical records have the impression that HIPAA doesn't apply to everyone.
Thanks so much for your content Mama Jones, but I was starting to get too aggravated to finish this one right now. I will circle back when I’m in a better headspace, but that people actually believe this stuff is just… we are so screwed.
Personhood is such a red herring. We need to meet personhood arguments with “I don’t care if the fetus was fifty years old inside my womb curing cancer and writing poetry, abortion is healthcare and should be legal”.
Honestly true. I think life does begin at conception, but I don't think that's relevant. Abortion is no worse morally imo than killing a mouse. But then I don't really believe in sanctity of life, and most prolifers do.
@@FarimiraEven if you think it's morally the same as killing a person, the argument still applies. We can't have self defense laws and not abortion. How crazy is it that corpses have more rights than pregnant women?
I honestly think the idea of a 50 year old living off their organs without their consent would be the only way to reach these people. But they are also incapable of the level of critical thinking needed to understand such hypotheticals. (and I'm not just saying that as a haha, dunking on the republicans; it's just a legitimate problem that they cannot imagine something they are not directly experiencing.)
I’d love one of them to explain how an abortion is performed after the baby is born, I mean, do they put it back in first? I feel like they kept them so distracted with so many lies and so much carnival nonsense, they didn’t give them a chance to actually think about what they were being told!
Exactly smh
My dad: A ton of women are skipping around and getting abortions! They should use production and take responsibility
Also my dad, who freaked out when I “almost” got pregnant (I knew I wasn’t pregnant because of protection): You’re not keeping it! Babies take a lot of responsibility to take care of and your life is thrown away, your hobbies are gone!
Edit: I’m adopted
It doesn't surprise me. In Portugal abortion until the early 2000s abortion was only legal in case of rape, mother serious health issues, malformation of the fetus. But since a few decades no one would face criminal charges if they had an abortion. Then I remember quite well listening to my cousin who was afraid she could be pregnant and if that was the case she would have an abortion. Fast forward a few years later there was a referendum to legalize elective abortion until, if I'm not wrong, 10 weeks of pregnancy and to my surprise the same cousin voted against it. Hopefully the result of the referendum legalised abortion in Portugal
My dad genuinely believes that they’re trying to “abort” children after they are born. I tried to correct him and say “no one states governor suggested that babies born with a fatal condition (like they would pass away within days of birth) might be eligible for euthanasia with the parents consent, because at that point it might be more humane to let a baby pass away peacefully than to let them suffer for days or weeks when there’s no chance at all that they will survive for longer”.
My dad said “no I know what you’re talking about, but that’s not what I’m talking about, there’s other people saying that post birth abortion is ok, I’ve seen it.” And at that point I knew there was no reasoning with him.
Now i am posting daily your one baby vs 1000 embryos metaphor! Its f'n perfect!
Except it's not. In a situation like that you act quickly, based on emotion. We are all more emotionally likely to save the crying toddler. That doesn't mean the embryos aren't human. Most people would save their own child over a stranger's twins or over a random preschool class. That doesn't say anything about the inherent humanity and value of the parties involved.
@erikabutterfly if you would save 1 child over 1000 embryos, it 100% does!
Random little comment about something you offhandedly said at the beginning of the video. Something about curing headaches instead of causing them. I thought some people might wonder how a gynecologist can cure headaches. Quick little story. I suffered migraines for my entire life from almost the moment I started my period. My periods were bad enough (I mean like, hauled off by paramedics and in the hospital bad), but those constant migraines made things so much worse. Many times lying on the bathroom floor blind and vomiting begging my mother to k*ll me. My life was constant torture. I couldn't get help for my periods or my migraines. I was "too young for a hysterectomy", I would "regret it when I'm older", I would "definitely want kids someday". You know all the stupid crap doctors say to women who know nothing about what they live with every day. Silly ignorant women. In addition, I couldn't get certain types of birth control that might help my cycles because of my history with migraines. Every doctor either assumed I was faking and being dramatic so did nothing, or they tried to shove narcotics down my throat for both problems, even when I was only a teenager. Fast forward 28 years of constant torture, and FINALLY a very kind OB/GYN decided that I was correct that a hysterectomy was my best option. I finally had that cursed uterus removed in January of 2020 (thankfully that "elective" surgery squeeked in before covid shut everything down). I have been living without the constant illness of my periods since then. I have also not had a migraine in almost 5 years. They instantly stopped. So yes, an OB/GYN can cure headaches too.
Now if only there was some way to cure something very much like PTSD from decades of constant fear and pain. Not much to do about that I suppose. I can just live thankful that I am better now.
The wide eyes at 1:44 ... I stg I make that same face at least three or four times a day, more if politics come up at work. Some of my coworkers believe that viable, often completely healthy, late-term fetuses are aborted on the daily and result in a live baby crying on the table for hours while the doctors and nurses all stand around watching it until it dies.
Nobody gets a late-term abortion for shits n gigs, or because they've suddenly realized a baby would inconvenience them, and it's so incredibly cold-hearted and unkind to accuse the heartbroken and hope-shattered parent(s) of doing so. And also to presume that the caring professionals working in OBGYN are all complicit in it.
Sorry for the super-long comment, but oh my word... I'm just so disappointed in these people. And so, so angry.
"I've read it so many places"
Name one.
Kristan Hawkins and her nonprofit, students for life, regularly spew this data. They lied about the preventable death of Amber Thurman, too. Isn't it odd the family of Amber can't seek defamation from youtube for hosting that content? Section 230. Anyone can lie about how we die and even our families can't do anything while social media profits from the lie. That's not good.
These people believe in the narrative not the truth.
I don't want to say my high school specifically taught the following, and not that it was just one crazy old man teacher who rarely taught, but...
He said that even after a baby is born, they will put the baby in a bucket and put the lid on. He was also supposed to teach us the rhythm method that was in the text book, but he rarely had us use our books. I don't believe the rhythm method should be the only source of family planning, but I do think young uterus owners should be more in touch with their own body and not afraid or repulsed by it, and learning your own personal rhythm is valuable.
the rhythm method is tricky to teach in schools because it usually takes a few years for the menstrual cycles to become regular. So most teenagers won't have a menstrual cycle with a reliable length. The rhythm method done correctly can be effective but it's not appropriate for situations when it would be disastrous to become pregnant. Even if you tell teenagers "this is a method you could use in the future if you want to but it's not ideal for teenagers", teenagers will probably try to use it anyway to avoid the embarrassment of going out to get other contraceptives.
"Why don't you look into it?" Followed by propaganda where he got his facts and how its harder to distinguish fact from fiction.
I've seen intoxicated people make more sense than that first guy.
I had a preemie 30 years ago at 25 weeks gestation. I had a major hemorrhage at 20 weeks that required 2 units of blood. I feinted in the bathroom. The baby’s heart rate plummeted. My doctor had a frank talk with me about abortion during this crisis. I did not want an abortion at any cost. She had to explain to me that the loss of my life would guarantee the loss of the baby’s life. She told me that she would do everything she could to stop the bleeding but if she couldn’t there would be no choice. It would be malpractice to allow me to bleed out. The treatment worked. I hemorrhaged again at 24 weeks and needed 3 units of blood. But things had shifted during this time. We, the baby and I, had reached the point of viability. The transfusion gave us an extra week. She prepared for an early delivery by giving me steroids that would help the baby’s lungs to mature. I hemorrhaged again a week later. I was passing blood faster than the doctor could replace it. I had a very low platelet count and was in danger of bleeding out. The only hope we had was a delivery. The odds of his survival was 50/50. The chance that he would suffer cerebral palsy, blindness, deafness, brain bleed, or perforation of the bowel was high with a 90% chance of compromise. In addition, the respiratory system would likely be damaged by the machinery used to oxygenate him. He nearly died of pneumonia twice during his stay in the NICU. His stay cost the insurance a half million. We were blessed. He survived without serious compromise.
The whole experience was like a scary nightmare, not only for me, but for all of the medical staff that took care of us. I can’t express enough the gratitude I feel for them. While I am comfortable sharing this 30 years later, I was mortified by the experience then. I felt that my body had failed and that I was on display to everyone. During such a stressful time, privacy needs to be guarded. These decisions need to be between me, my family and my God. I Do Not however believe that abortion should be used as a latent form of birth control or gender selection. Human life is precious and should be respected. Therefore I cannot say that I am pro abortion on demand. But I will say that it needs to be an option made with care and discretion.
it just baffles me that you cannot take the organs of a DEAD body without the persons prior written consent when they were alive but you can use a living woman's womb to incubate an unwanted/unplanned/risky pregnancy against their will.
You should be able to
So a living baby has less rights than a dead body
14:55 and now they’re wearing shirts that say Your body my choice 🤬🤮
Ever since i read a comment before, I can not unsee the 'chicken' 🐔on the board!!😂😂😂
Thank you for lightrning up the room a bit! :)
Omg I️ see it now
By Jewish Religious laws - you protect the mothers life FIRST, then anything else after. Just from a Religious Freedom* (only if you are not Jewish) stand point - these laws are uncostitutional.
I love how sweet you are that you can offer empathy even to people saying wildly inaccurate tings. Love you. Stay safe
Mama Dr. Jones.. get ready to welcome 380 new Doctors from the USA
It almost seems as if they think women can't make those choices because they are not smart enough. 😢
Yep, many men are threatened by highly intelligent, independent, strong, confident women who will take their jobs. These men don’t want to report to a woman. That is why Hillary and Harris were unable to get support from men. Democrats can never run another woman for president because men’s mentality about women will never change.
Your videos are my comfort blanket right now. Thank you.
Thank God that you're doing this. People are abandoning their reason in a rush to punish whoever they think of as the "sinners."
Thank you Mama Doctor Jones
Your content is more important and precious than ever before
Mama Doctor Jones, just an idea here. One of the other commenters here brought up the California Assembly Bill No. 2223 (nicknamed the “Infanticide Bill” by those on the political right. Could you do a video to explain that? Maybe even do a collab with Legal Eagle? I know the law was passed in 2022, but it's still relevant.
I’m gonna use the clinic fire question. That really puts it in perspective.
I feel like this, just because it's not something I feel I could personally do, doesn't mean that I have the right to force my feelings onto other people. Not my body, not my life, not my choice. Laws do not stop abortion, it just makes it unsafe and unsanitary like it was back in the day. Just like gun laws or drug laws doesn't stop it. It just means people do whatever they want in shady ways. It's fine to tell a woman what she can do with her own body, but it's not ok to ban all guns?? Make it make sense. "But guns don't kill people, idiots do".. Well safe abortion generally doesn't kill people, but that crazy dude you met on the back alley with a fantasy of "easy and quick" termination does... It may sound like I'm comparing apples to oranges, but I'm just trying to demonstrate just how stupid and dangerous banning abortion is. Medical advice is only supposed to be given by medical providers, and last I checked, the idiots making and passing these laws aren't doctors, and more specific OB/GYN. They have zero rights to give medical advice for medical issues or procedures.
3:06 for reference on this topic from the religious perspective I’d like to give some context. I’m interested in the study of religion and have a degree in interdisciplinary religious studies. Pro life circles tend to have their own information silo and they love to rehash the case of Kermit Gosnell over and over as proof of this practice. The general population frequently have no idea who Gosnell even is so it’s worth understanding what he did and the impact it has when pro life groups show a documentary or movie on him then claim that what he did is rampant. They lead people to believe that his practice is the norm. Sowing a grain of truth to cultivate a field of falsehoods is extremely effective.
We need something like this for Canadians. We have a lot of people who think because our Conservatives don't push abortion banning out loud that they won't do anything if they are in office DESPITE attempts to create a fetal personhood bill and Conservative Premeirs making it harder to access abortions in their Provinces. Members of Parliament's voting records are public and even that doesn't convince them because "they didn't say they would ban it, they just oppose it morally".
Was really hopeful for you guys to have Kamala as your new President both because you guys deserve better than Trump and also because a lot of the Republican rhetoric makes its way to us. We have "Maple MAGA". I hope the next 4 years are kind to us all.
You have no idea how devastating it was to wake up and realize that half of my country doesn't give a fuck about anyone other than themselves.
Canadian women really have to watch out. The reason for the abortion ban is control of women. Conservativism is about increasing hierarchy. That means more power and wealth to the already powerful and wealthy. It means increasing every aspect of the society's hierarchy, and making it harder for each group down a rung. They will never make poor men as a group wealthier. They can only make poor men feel higher by allowing them greater ability to exploit, control, and take their frustrations out on other groups. Here, white women as a group voted their race. The US has a whole lot of rungs, so white women have a big buffer. It may be a while before the rumblings about also taking away no-fault divorce and other ways women can escape men come to reality. Before catering to incels is how conservatives keep that white "working class" vote. But in Canada..... You have a whole lot fewer "others" to step on. Conservatives will have to put pressure on white women in ways that equal or exceed the US to be able to put equal economic pressure on white men, and do it faster than here.
How can we protect our mental health during times like these? I feel like im actually going to lose my mind.