Scam or science? How not to get fooled (Marketplace)

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  • Is it scam or science? Find out how a chiropractor may have fooled Dragons' Den investors into endorsing his unproven cure.
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  • @bobenson720
    @bobenson720 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    My chemistry teacher did the same thing. He told us about the power of copper and how it could make you strong. He made a boy in the class push a girls arm down while it was up, like in this episode, and her arm went down quick. Then he wrapped copper around her wrist, then told the boy to push her arm down again, and this time, she could keep it up. We were amazed, but in the end, he revealed to us that it was the placebo effect. People will believe anything you tell them. So look out!

    • @azadalamiq
      @azadalamiq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bo Benson
      good teacher.

    • @slushu_6865
      @slushu_6865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You had an awesome teacher

    • @linuxd
      @linuxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good teacher

  • @qhsperson
    @qhsperson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    As soon as he says he's a chiropractor, you know it's a scam.

    • @arcticwolf4653
      @arcticwolf4653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I needed a spinal alignment because I had a bulged disk in my L4-L5 and L5-S1 and a misaligned C3. It was from a scuba diving accident. Insurance only paid so much for my PT, but it wasn't helpful and I started to get bad migraines. I later switched to chiropractic care, and it helped me. I don't do the vitamins or extra stuff because those don't work.. but it's not just cracking bones.

    • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
      @JohnSmith-xq1pz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arcticwolf4653 never been to one personally,but I have an uncle with two bad hips. He gets chiropractic adjustments, makes a world of difference for him.

    • @Sara-nz5wt
      @Sara-nz5wt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JohnSmith-xq1pz The adjustments do, but the vitamins and minerals they most of them try to sell aren't helpful because your body has a certain amount that it takes from the meds.

    • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
      @JohnSmith-xq1pz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sara-nz5wt oh yeah the adjustments straightens him right up.

    • @MrBilld75
      @MrBilld75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hear what the Chiro. patients are saying and heard it before and it's not like they don't know bones and muscle, but that's all Chriopractors really know. And the profession is VERY prone to quackery and they LOVE to operate way above their pay grade and qualifications. Lol. There's a joke that Chiropractors are the med. school students that couldn't cut it as real Doctors, lol. Seems legit too, lol. I remember going to one years ago, that put me into some hokey and expensive "magnetic" ring device and that did it for me and the quackery. It literally did NOTHING. That said, people with injuries say Chriopractors have done wonders for them and it is covered as legit medicine under health plans, but that is the ONLY legit thing about their pseudoscience leanings.

  • @CalvinYzerman
    @CalvinYzerman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Can't believe it was even made it on Dragons Den - total snake oil.

    • @BurntTransistor
      @BurntTransistor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of the Dragons aren't known to be particularly intelligent. The show picked some low-hanging fruit.

  • @nickel2442
    @nickel2442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Quantum entanglement lol. Willing to bet no one including the inventor understood what quantum entanglement is.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      + R Z
      It's how commander Shepard talked to the Cidadel of course.

    • @SwobyJ
      @SwobyJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Found the Mass Effect reference. Knew it.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @elizabeth712
      @elizabeth712 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    • @expertoflizardcorrugation3967
      @expertoflizardcorrugation3967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      R Z I was thinking the same thing. Im pretty sure if you could produce the effect so reliably and in such a large chunk of matter we would have some very cool inventions
      By the way quantum entanglement is the pheonomona where two atoms will mimic eachother no matter the distance, no matter the time, no matter the place. They will mimic eachother

  • @pcgt2003
    @pcgt2003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Guys..to be fair he is correct that he doesn't know how his invention works. Nobody understands how the placebo effect works :P

    • @ancalyme
      @ancalyme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xi Chen Because it doesn't. Sometimes medical conditions just randomly get better, it has nothing to do with the placebo you took.

    • @gary-david1769
      @gary-david1769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The placebo effect is in direct relation to an individual's mental belief or faith and the extraordinary capability of the human brain's control of our body's functional process. The brain is what initiates the spike of adrenal fluid release during a moment when the mind senses extreme episodes of fear, or alerted to sudden excitement. The brain under studies in rare individuals has shown to trigger greater percentages of use, comparative to average. The placebo merely acts as the training wheels on a child's bike that no longer touch the ground while the child rides, or the person who is horrified by heights unless the knowledge of the height is taken away by eliminating their ability to visualize their distance from the ground

    • @mam362
      @mam362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      actually psychologists know how it works

    • @Itried20takennames
      @Itried20takennames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are plenty of pharmaceuticals for which we don’t know how they work, but they show a benefit when tested. Chiropractic doesn’t.

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here in the Philippines, "secret treatments" are illegal. It's unethical lol, to have a treatment that only your clinic has so you could charge more for it. I'm not sure if that's also the case in other countries.

  • @Brightstars19
    @Brightstars19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Never underestimate the power of showmanship and the placebo effect with junk like this. Remember those magic healing bands

    • @azadalamiq
      @azadalamiq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red The Hunter
      yup i recall those things since the 80s/90s.

  • @dutchguywillem
    @dutchguywillem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i don't even live in canada, but i really like your marketplace reporting. Keep it up CBC!

  • @MeeplandHeights
    @MeeplandHeights 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    He claims he worked with physicists but doesn't have any studies. He doesn't believe in scientific research clearly so how did he develop it? Why even develop it? Where are even the studies just plain showing it works? That's the minimum someone should have to sell these things and make these claims

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mominaodiji Yes! And who are these 'physicists'? Their names and qualifications?

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lenita A Precisely.

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I looked up the physicists and they are pretty wonky scambusting101.blogspot.ca/2018/02/cbc-market-place-neuroreset-neuroconnect.html

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      daenuvo The quackiness isn't complete without promoting some JRPG/Sonic the Hedgehog/Steven Universe mythical and amazing crystal, lol. But you want to know something frightening? These people honestly *believe* in what they're selling. In their eyes, giving the benefit of the doubt here, they're doing nothing wrong. I...don't know how you help someone like that :/

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Their has to either be some big self-delusion there or they are completely aware of their nefarious activity. Maybe both in some sick twisted feedback loop. When I was being interviewed for the show (I'm the magician on the episode), I was asked if I thought Metus was sincere in his conviction. I can't say with 100% accuracy, but the fact that you have to know to change the angle in the "proving" portion leads me to think that they are purposefully deceiving people.

  • @blockchainbot.6596
    @blockchainbot.6596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Neuro connect. They might as well said it was a portable time machine. Lol.

    • @MandrakeFernflower
      @MandrakeFernflower 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got one that locks you into a one hour per hour time frame

  • @kenergang4958
    @kenergang4958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Everybody should refuse to leave any tips. The restaurant would still be forced to make sure their staff still got paid at least the minimum. If the restaurant cant afford to pay the increased wages raise the price of the food. I would rather pay higher prices and leave no tip.

    • @maylilies2961
      @maylilies2961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      People are scared of being ridiculed and having their food messed with. Some servers and delivery men will even confront people that don't tip. There is no incentive for these people to be nice anymore they get tips regardless.

    • @scarlettelisabeth5644
      @scarlettelisabeth5644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      May Lilies that makes no sense why would their food be messed up if you tip after you get your food

    • @maylilies2961
      @maylilies2961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Scarlett Elisabeth going back to the same place or word of mouth.

    • @maylilies2961
      @maylilies2961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Scarlett Elisabeth If you are someone who doesn't tip it won't take long for people to find out specially in a small town. People's anger towards tipping has become ridiculous in reset years

    • @scarlettelisabeth5644
      @scarlettelisabeth5644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      May Lilies true never actually thought about a person going back lol, and small towns I could definitely see that’s happening. I’m a big city girl who rarely ever eats at the same place

  • @xchen7363
    @xchen7363 6 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    dragon's den is like shark tank but the sharks are dumber

    • @CTimmerman
      @CTimmerman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unless they realized a lot of people would fall for it and thus fork over the money and then some.

    • @indigoray6693
      @indigoray6693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Well actually a guy went on the shark tank and he was trying to pitch the balance bracelet similar to the clip works the same way. The sharks immediately shut the guy down realizing it was a scam. The dragons didn't realize the scam. Just saying

    • @fezzes428
      @fezzes428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats only for canada, the english dragons are smarter

    • @spoopypoods7485
      @spoopypoods7485 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually, dragon's den is the original show with a format like shark tank, but the original original show was japanese, not british. Shark Tank came after.

    • @welestgw
      @welestgw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, typically the deal is dependent on some proof off air they don't go into. So most deals don't even go through.

  • @wednesdaya5285
    @wednesdaya5285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember this trick. There was a bracelet. Same scam.

    • @jairoherrera4040
      @jairoherrera4040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wednesday A
      When this happen at shark tank with a bracelet instead, Mark Cuban slams the scammer.

    • @myfamily9393
      @myfamily9393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea like 10 years ago I think. I remember.

  • @MissNebulosity
    @MissNebulosity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "I'm a chiropractor..." After that everything else he said you know you can take as BS. LOL

  • @Sampsonoff
    @Sampsonoff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Snake oil plain and simple. Anecdotal reports from his clients experiencing the placebo effect means nothing.

  • @Wheemer
    @Wheemer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The fact they needed to do tests to find out if those clips were real is hilarious... Dragon's Den is a joke too.

    • @linuxd
      @linuxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how you do science though. You test even the dumbest parts of reality to confirm truth

    • @Wheemer
      @Wheemer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@linuxd I propose we begin testing the "scientists". I bet we would find some of the dumbest paid off parts of reality right there.

    • @linuxd
      @linuxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wheemer and then you would be the scientist
      ...don't you see, that's how science works. It's a technique of testing reality to make sure we're observing accurately

    • @Wheemer
      @Wheemer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@linuxd Sure that's how science is supposed to work. We haven't seen that in a long, long time. Science fails to admit the power of belief that causes the placebo effect.

    • @linuxd
      @linuxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Wheemer okay pal 👌🏼
      "We haven't seen that in a long time"
      As you sit in your air conditioned space on your super powered hand computer while you talk to me through invisible wires that run through walls and all throughout the entire planet
      Yeah... no science here. Nobody knows what they're talking about till you started asking the magic Google box how science works and it told you that you're the only one who understands

  • @Andrew-nu8ez
    @Andrew-nu8ez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    End tipping will solve the problem. If server provides bad service often, fire them. It's simple and common sense.

    • @elizabeth712
      @elizabeth712 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew 82 but that’s almost all they get paid. They get paid below minimum wage and the tips make up for it.

    • @Andrew-nu8ez
      @Andrew-nu8ez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eggy Flentje, if you end tips, the owner has to provide minimum wage.

    • @elizabeth712
      @elizabeth712 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll be a good person and admit you’re right without tons of argument.i did not think of that.

    • @beatman9758
      @beatman9758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it is the employers' jobs to pay thier employees

    • @Andrew-nu8ez
      @Andrew-nu8ez 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beat Man , supply and demand. Asian countries don't have minimum wage because if you don't want it someone will gladly take it. Children learn and parents teach that you need to get a good education and work hard to move ahead. Nothing is given. The policy of China and US are totally opposite. China needs to provide a bit more for the poor but US needs to cut a lot. That's why we are still behind and didn't move an inch. Everything is unionized. All the taxes we paid goes to funding union raises. Trump is right on some things.

  • @laurelvanwilligen9787
    @laurelvanwilligen9787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "If I said I know how it works I'd be lying." Just leave the 'I know how' out of that statement.

  • @James-ye7rp
    @James-ye7rp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Remember that, while tip-out rate may change from 2% to 3%, that is actually a 50% rise in tip-outs from the server. In real dollars, this is a big deal. Perhaps there should be not tipping at all, and staff should be paid by the business directly. If there are no people willing to work at these wages, up the wages and charge the customer to offset these costs. Less guessing that way, by everyone. If the cost of going out at a particular restaurant has to include tips, put those costs into the price of the meal.

  • @nicholasthompson7690
    @nicholasthompson7690 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Tipping should be a personal decision. What these restaurants are doing is wrong.

    • @angrybird7324
      @angrybird7324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's not, what is "wrong" is that customers don't want to pay. It's understandable as if it's too expensive people will just eat home, but to be competitive they have to cut corners has the profit margin of restaurants on average is 2% so there is no room for manoeuver unless they raise prices a lot and then no more customers.

    • @Thomas-wm9vz
      @Thomas-wm9vz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@angrybird7324 So minimum wage workers who dont receive tips in their own field should be forced to tip workers who make more than them because of those tips?

    • @tombullard123
      @tombullard123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Angry Bird in other countries our waiters are paid minimum wage already plus tips, everywhere but america seems to be able to function this way

    • @OJsLeftGlove
      @OJsLeftGlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tombullard123 I've seen how you Europeans tip
      .....make sense they'd need minimum wage

  • @thehALomolov2
    @thehALomolov2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    No one should take a job where the employee pays 5% on every sale.
    Tipping is an old and stupid process. You are employed to do a job and you get a tip as a reward for exceptional service, you shouldn't be in a position where you rely on customers giving you bonuses for your job to be sustainable.
    99% of the time I don't tip, service is slow, my order is wrong, unobservant server. People should be payed a wage and not have to need tips to survive.
    I'd much rather have the items priced properly than be expected to give a percent on top of my purchase.
    The only problem with venues including proper employee pay in their base prices and no tipping, is that then there is no incentive for them to give good service. But literally every other industry doesn't expect customers to give bonuses in exchange for appropriate service.
    Literally everywhere now adays has tip jars -_-

    • @azadalamiq
      @azadalamiq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thehALomolov2
      then ask for wage increase, waiter/waitreses are page the lowest rate if at all..

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    14:17 these absolutely help people!
    Mainly him, his employees, his family and his bank, but these do help people!

  • @CloudSnakeGames
    @CloudSnakeGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I'm not going to give up just because you say I need to have science" lol...

  • @hannahdivic28
    @hannahdivic28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a neuroscience major premed and just hearing people throw around the word “neuro” without knowing any basic science makes me mad

  • @scallan6401
    @scallan6401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It works because of the way muscles work. When you use your muscles, they perform on a bell curve. The first time okay, the second time better and the last time, not as good as the second time. It’s how occupational therapists determine if you are faking with having an assessment of injury or illness. This how people were fooled with magnet power.
    If you want to really test something do a double blind test ( with and without the device but you don’t know) and do more than two tests of the device.

  • @Shamol
    @Shamol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    "I'm a chiropractor" - he just admitted to be a fraud...

    • @FF-ob7wl
      @FF-ob7wl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same tbh

    • @MegaSonglover99
      @MegaSonglover99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How

    • @Ethericrose
      @Ethericrose 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a natural healer with over 30 years experience. I believe he's onto something important that could be beneficial to some clts. This is my personal opinion.
      You are a chiropractor, I acknowledge your (yet did not see or hear him say he was a fraud) opinion too. Your opening line stating you are a chiropractor does not make your next statement anymore credible as my opening statement of being a natural Healer. I got the impression you were bragging to make people believe you that the guy stated he was a fraud.

    • @chrissummers1556
      @chrissummers1556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ethericrose you are also *another scammer* like him and are trying to cover the schemes (yours too probably) exposed here

    • @edbarnard7157
      @edbarnard7157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ethericrose the real scammers are the pharmaceutical companies

  • @trevorlambert4226
    @trevorlambert4226 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anything from a Chiropractor is a scam right off the bat.

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. I was glad to help out and debunk this quack on this episode.

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don’t understand quantum mechanics” - Richard Feynman

    • @Linosek279
      @Linosek279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are three stages:
      1) What is quantum mechanics?
      2) I know a bit about quantum mechanics
      3) Seriously, what is quantum mechanics?

  • @Xiellion
    @Xiellion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:15 so what he's saying is "you have proof we're gullible, but we're not gullible, because I say so"

  • @Mulerider4Life
    @Mulerider4Life 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am starting to order pick up instead of eating in. Tipping expectations has got out of control.

  • @jitteryloki
    @jitteryloki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the US its common for many places to split tips evenly amongst ALL STAFF, I've worked for a company that did this. 2/3 of the staff worked preparing food, 1/3 serving it. Meaning as a server i was required to give away more than 50% of the tips i earned. Assuming an average server makes 12% or 15% tips giving up 5%-6% is maybe a third or a bit more of their tips, we gave away HALF. and the best part. on large parties there was a 10% gratuity (tip) automatically added to the bill, and we were required to remind guests that there was already a tip charged and that they shouldn't be tipping us. the whole restaurant got 10% tips total in a night and would split it so the staff who earned the majority of it actually got less as a whole than those who didnt.

  • @Dhanishdevlop
    @Dhanishdevlop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Neuro science website put a full response to this CBC marketplace. This scammer is getting salty real quick.

    • @computerhacker9433
      @computerhacker9433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they give you full refund like he said how can it be a scam? If it works then great, if not you lose nothing.

    • @eddiew2325
      @eddiew2325 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magic Hacker honestly they will join you

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yes it is still a scam as it doesn't work. It's impossible to work. So the people who are delusional in thinking it works and keep them have been scammed. What you are asking is like if someone got involved in a pyramid scheme at the very beginning and actually made money says it's not a scam as it worked for them even though people at the bottom do not make money. It's still a scam regardless because the whole premise is not viable.

    • @computerhacker9433
      @computerhacker9433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eh, psychics are a scam and they milk their marks out of their life savings. Charging $100 everytime they want to talk to their dead son. As long as the clips don't expire and the customers are happy id say leave him alone.

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I see this as the same as psychics. Using magic tricks to fool people into paying money for stuff that just isn't true. (I'm the magician in the episode by the way).

  • @nikkidolce7093
    @nikkidolce7093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He knows how it works- it’s called the placebo effect

  • @Giaphaige
    @Giaphaige 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly i'm a bit jealous, when I worked as waitress I had to split all my tips 50/50 with the kitchen, while only getting paid 10.10 because I served alcohol (you can get paid less as a server, and even less if you serve alcohol). I wish I only had to give them 5%

  • @kholkeholkepolke1135
    @kholkeholkepolke1135 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sharing tips on sales is basically moving the cost of business onto the employee. This is down right illegal. Where's the law? Funny how our laws are void anytime money is involved.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kholke Holkepolke I wonder if it was to push the waiters to sell more expensive items on the menu!?

  • @deadmanavir
    @deadmanavir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put your left arm up at a 45 degree angle. Try to keep your arm up. Push down on your left wrist using your right hand, your left arm goes down. Push down just above the wrist, your arm stays up.

  • @DisturbedRocks
    @DisturbedRocks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like how easy Marketplace went on a person doing a CBC show. I wonder if she asked about the % of sales from those pins going to the Dragons. Why didn't they put the facts on why the deal didn't go through in the video?

    • @CanMav
      @CanMav 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As the deal didn't go through, the Dragons would have gotten $0.

  • @MissNebulosity
    @MissNebulosity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I'm not gonna give up, just because you say I have to have science" ... WOWWWWWWWWW

  • @robertboisvert4186
    @robertboisvert4186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CBC thanks for all the valuable info

  • @rachelgee9954
    @rachelgee9954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So is this like the "ionic watch" that is supposed to give you energy?
    I bought one of those for $10, but only because I wanted a watch that was white and glows in the dark...but doubt the watch has any special power except to tell the time.

  • @anjite
    @anjite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live In the UK and this Tipping thing is so alien to me

  • @alicelowell7549
    @alicelowell7549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And was able to say all that with a straight face! LMAO

  • @onehappynegro
    @onehappynegro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:40 i don't agree with tipping for 2 reasons.
    1 why should the server get all money for just serving food
    2 no other job would get tips for good work
    tip my tire went flat the tire workshop was just 100 m away they still needed to refill and service the job. i bought two bags of buns to thank them. this made me use this tire workshop for changing winter / summer tires. the next time i went there they told me the car is parked and ready for you. i asked how much they wanted, nothing it's already taken care of. so a small contribution towards the workers saved me lots of money.

  • @JAShalvey
    @JAShalvey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cook and hostess are part of the restaurant patrons' positive experience. The food prepared properly and timely is on the cook. When a person tips it is because of a good experience overall, not just because they liked the waitress. Even the busboy who provided clean silverware and plates helped with the experience. The team concept of tip sharing is a good one for these reasons. Perhaps the base pay of the waitress can be raised slightly to offset any tips that are forfeited with an implementation of this team tipping concept.

  • @CarameliaM
    @CarameliaM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm shocked that even Canada treats their servers this horribly. So far I thought only the US was ripping off serving staff this badly.

    • @khalidcarrillo1132
      @khalidcarrillo1132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but they're getting paid 13 dollars in hour while in USA as little as 4 dollars an hour or even less.

    • @attomicchicken
      @attomicchicken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Khalid Carrillo she's complaining about minimum wage of $13+. I don't agree with the tipping "culture" of the Americans but considering they get peanuts compared to the Canadians here makes it an easier pill to swallow.

  • @gurtek08
    @gurtek08 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man all these servers deserve a raise. The large companies already make enough money.

  • @andijayy9008
    @andijayy9008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i worked as a server in BC and got paid server wage, which at the time was $11.40. we did the tip out as well, and on most days i would tip out $60 to the kitchen staff, which doesn’t seem like a lot but for a week it adds up.

  • @irisnguyen5574
    @irisnguyen5574 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my living place, PEI, Ca, tip is up to 15% min on total sales amount at restaurants. Actually It is a super high rate
    and that is one of reasons that often makes me hesitate to go eating outside frequently.

  • @OJsLeftGlove
    @OJsLeftGlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone who's worked in the back of a restaurant knows how thankless wait staff tend to be.
    Maybe they should have to share their tips, because they tend to lay ALL the blame on the kitchen if anything takes too long....

  • @lynda8202
    @lynda8202 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching this episode, it is puzzling to see that this "tip out" comes from the total food sales. Based on a Google search, a "tip out" is taken from the tip pool which is IMHO a less desirable policy. So would someone please clarify which is it? Thx

  • @thehALomolov2
    @thehALomolov2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As for the tims protest, they used the law to force higher pay and expected all their nice perks and bonuses to stay the same... Where did they think the money was going to come from?
    If you legally force them to do one thing, they're going to take from areas that they're providing above the legal requirements.
    Raising minimum wage doesn't help anyone, it's an endless cycle of prices raising and then pay raising and then the process repeats. Once people have more money to spend, the businesses can raise prices to match the wealth increase.
    If I'm charging you a half hours pay for a burger, and then your pay increases, why wouldn't my price increase to match your new pay. I'm going to get as much out of you as possible for my product, I already know you value my product at 30minutes work, so I'm still going to charge accordingly.

    • @tybooskie
      @tybooskie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the cost of a good or service goes up, which includes labor, then the price of that good or service should also increase. You are the delusional one for even suggesting prices stay the same. Everything is already more expensive, why should labor be the exception. The cost of beef has risen 3 fold over the last 15 years, it's silly to suggest that labor prices remain the same, especially when C level salaries have outpaced the costs of raw ingredients. Oh and China.

  • @johnbond458
    @johnbond458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is what happens when government gets involved with the minimum wage

  • @99cseni
    @99cseni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It worked because of the placebo effect, much like sugar pills

    • @fishbone0
      @fishbone0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't even have any placebo effect, it simply doesn't work

  • @AmberAmber
    @AmberAmber 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I 💟 Marketplace!!

  • @liveman2k
    @liveman2k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'll get the jerk chicken please." (lady behind counter nods and starts raving) 16:26

  • @lumberdog198
    @lumberdog198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew about this tip out policy as I have decided to tip less as prices rise with increase in minimum wage

  • @turrboenvy4612
    @turrboenvy4612 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is this still a thing? I remember in high school (20+ years ago, in the US) a substitute teacher was hocking some copper thing (It might have been insoles) with the same street scammer tactics.

  • @josephparker646
    @josephparker646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dragons Den definitely would be benefited by asking if they were going through the tests that the FDA would allow it to be marketed.

    • @eddiew2325
      @eddiew2325 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      FDA are notorious drug addicts tho who work for Mexico cartels

    • @josephparker646
      @josephparker646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two questions come to mind. What is your evidence and how did you come to this conclusion. Logically speaking you make no sense

  • @mmmfun77
    @mmmfun77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Look up quantum entanglement. THIS is NOT it!!
    Unbelievable!

  • @Jasper-ds3pe
    @Jasper-ds3pe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I’m not going to give up on my bogus product I’ve backed up by pushing someone’s arm just because you say I should be able to back it up with science since it is science based”

  • @rwirth4562
    @rwirth4562 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the same arm resistance test to sell the magnetic bracelets lol

  • @dbcooper1492
    @dbcooper1492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THEY COOK YOUR FOOD!!!!! If not for their work you would not have tips or a job at all. All that you did was talk to a customer and hold a plate.

  • @alexisco.3358
    @alexisco.3358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a product similar like that in Shark Tank. But no shark invested in it

  • @Gryphyn3
    @Gryphyn3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was told by many servers that they're min wage didn't go up to the same min wage rate as regular min wage employers. They won't get 15 bucks.

  • @Fitheach81
    @Fitheach81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:00 gotta admire her guts sneaking a good ol' NSDAP salute on national tv

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol I never even thought of that. That's funny. (I'm the magician in the clip)

    • @Pocol0c0s
      @Pocol0c0s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BillNuvo haha

  • @beijudewo
    @beijudewo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand the whole tipping system. Why as a customer should pay tip to people? Too many place needs to pay tips, not just restaurant, also barber, taxi, moving, cleaning, massage. Aren't they suppose to get paid by their boss or they earn money from their sales?

  • @hannahdivic28
    @hannahdivic28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:10 “I’m not going to give up just because YOU say I have to have science” ... for my scientific device... ummm WHAT 😂

  • @foxhound6364
    @foxhound6364 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know about Canada, but in the U.S. waiters make a pretty damn good living for the work they do. It isn’t nearly as demanding as working behind the line, and they usually make far more than every other non-management position. I worked as a waiter for years and regularly cleared $600/week. That’s almost $800 in Canada. The waitresses made far more than that.

  • @darknessblade7480
    @darknessblade7480 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so if a large group comes and orders for 4000$ worth of food {but they do not tip {they are from asia or europe and think tipping is a bad thing to do} }
    the server has to dish out at least 188$ worth of tips if the rate is 4.7%
    if she makes 13.5$ per hour at a 12 hour shift
    that is about -22$ she earns that day.

  • @Coltoid
    @Coltoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be perfectly honest, I tip based on if the food was good, the service from the waitress is less important.

  • @alabasterhenery1969
    @alabasterhenery1969 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand that is situations where kitchen staff are paid more that servers may be upset to be required to share their tips, but if servers are being given extra money for quality of food, and quality of dinning... This then should be shared.

  • @ryankraft9897
    @ryankraft9897 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked at a high volume bar as a "liquor stocker". I'd assist the bartenders to ensure they never ran out of alcohol, ice, and various other expendables. Basically my job was to make sure the bartenders had no down time. As this bar mixed no drinks (cans and bottles only), it wasn't uncommon for a single bartender to sell $1500 worth of product an hour and receive a couple hundred dollars in tips an hour (I know... Imagine making over $1000 in tips a night). The bartenders understood how important my job was to ensure they could sell at this volume (with volume comes more tips), and as a result, was compensated with a percentage of their tips. Shouldnt the restaurant business have a similar "tax"? The waiters/waitresses, although provide the service, receive good tips based on factors such as food quality (prepared by the kitchen staff), restaurant cleanliness (cleaning staff), restaurant mood and reputation (the owners), etc. A good tip is often a product of the team effort from all employees to ensure the customers are satisfied. Imagine a kitchen worker knows that if he/she puts care into the meal, he/she would receive compensation for that effort. The waiter/waitress would also seek benefit by getting more or higher tips despite having to split a bit. Would love to hear others opinions! And I am probably mixing up tip pools and this payout... oh well!

  • @rayray9594
    @rayray9594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the tips issue, my guess is the reason they do percentage on the gross sale of the food {not including taxes and fees} is because it's assumed that diners leave between a minimum of 10 percent tip up to 20 percent tip and in some instances even more depending on the diner. So to take away 2 to 3 or 4 even 5 percent from the food sales is assumed that the server is getting let's say on average 15 percent tip and giving back let's say on average 3.5 percent back to the rest of the staff who assisted her in getting those orders correctly put together. So it's not that bad of a deal to share those tips with the guys sweating over ovens or even the buss boys who have to clean off the tables and wash the dishes. That one girl who said she owed 450 in tips back to her establishment probably should also mentioned that if she's paying back 450 in tips that means she's sold about 8 grand in food for which she probably recieved about at a MINIMUM 800 in tips up to about 1600. So her sharing it with the rest of the staff only seems fair. tips used to be for servers only back in the day but in the recent decades that's switched to include sharing them with the support staff that make those servers "SHINE". I've had buss boys or water boys treat me better than my server in the past and i've actually given a cash tip to those guys in their hand for them only and left a lower tip on the actual table for the server before because I felt those guys did more to serve me than my actual server did.

  • @TH-eb5ro
    @TH-eb5ro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know of restaurants in the US where they tip out and they get way below minimum wage. Where is the labor laws?

  • @reubenzulaica385
    @reubenzulaica385 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the hell is tip out is the same as tip sharirng? As far as I can tell tip out is the server having to pay the restaurant for everything the server sells what ever percentage that is, is this correct?

  • @99bushpig
    @99bushpig 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god I live in a country that frowns on and bars tips of any kind allthough if I go out for a meal I usually leave 5 % if the service is great.

  • @youngscooter6290
    @youngscooter6290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When did education and effort stop being the main role in somebody’s wages, and not relying on minimum wage paying jobs that are slowly diminishing because of high labour costs on P&L’ s forcing companies to innovate or close down.

    • @calvinweeder1067
      @calvinweeder1067 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno, maybe around the time all information became available via Google? Traditional forms of 'education' seem even more pointless these days than they always did. And you're right, there are a lot of good paying jobs that for some reason require a BA even though the degree has nothing to do with the job being offered. It's just used as a means to weed out supposedly weak applicants, potentially sketchy not-so-middle-class ones. So yeah, that's a problem because as long as these hoops that people must jump through in order to succeed seem more and more pointless and scammy the more cynical society is going to get.

    • @mksabourinable
      @mksabourinable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about we match the min wage of previous generations (accounting for inflation), yea??

    • @youngscooter6290
      @youngscooter6290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kye Talks and what wage is that? When the rising minimum wage hurts the very people who fight for it to be raised by forcing employers to raise prices, reduce staff, and close down...what good is a higher wage if you have no place to earn it.

    • @K-Fed
      @K-Fed 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then minimum wage would be like $8/hr.

    • @azadalamiq
      @azadalamiq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      everyone should do research on the minimum wage, it was established during the depression area to help families have a living wage.
      not everyone can go college, not everyone can work in career jobs. jobs are needing to be filled, my b/f earned a degree in chemistry, and couldn't get a long term job out of college right away. he had to work 2 min wage paying jobs. just to pay rent, bills etc. He was let go of a temp job for lil to no reason, right after moving to be closer to it. He worked hard at that temp jobs, and filled in for people many time. They let him go, even sent a nasty letter to him.
      my b/f had to work at a grocery store, and a pizzeria having 1 day off a month if that, just to pay rent, buy food, pay bills.
      college doesn't guarantee a job, or a good paying job. A lot the min wage workers do have degrees but no jobs in the field. Jobs in the field more often then not only hire people with work experience, yet don't give fresh out o school people a chance.
      My b/f is a hard worker, loves chemistry, and got lucky when a place gave him a chance, not everyone is lucky.
      truth be told most min wage jobs have you work double or triple amount of work, then a career job. Even my boyfriend realized this, he even claims "at my chem job i don't work nearly as much as i did one of those jobs."
      what are people going to do when other people wake up and realize no job is worth a low wage. what are you guys gonna do if there is no wait staff at restaurants? no cashiers at retail stores or super markets?
      someone gotta do these jobs, why should they not be paid fairly? min wage used to go up regularely.
      in my former state MA, min wage went up 3-4 times from the time i was 16 to 28. from $5/hr, to 6.50/hr, to 7.50./hr to 9/hr.
      how are people with high functioning disabilities able to work to live? they can't live with mom or dad all their life.
      America had a crash 10 years ago and is still barely recovering in places. Tons of people with degrees lost their job and had to work min wage.
      min wage was not put in place to underpay staff who are treated like slave labor. it was put there to help people live.

  • @mrtommygunwhite
    @mrtommygunwhite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the british dragons would not have fallen for this

  • @bobbiemason7912
    @bobbiemason7912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read the “I developed it with a team of physicists” as “I developed it with a team of psychics” and I was like “well that explains a lot”

  • @mandisaplaylist
    @mandisaplaylist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:54 He doesn't need to test for "quantum entanglement" to know there is ABSOLUTELY NO quantum entanglement involved. The reason is that in order for something to be quantum entangled to something else, either the two things must be created at the same time and place or one of the two things must be somehow derived from the other one. This is the main reason why quantum entanglement is not observed under "normal conditions". You need exotic materials or strange conditions to observe quantum entanglement such as specially grown crystals or extremely low temperatures at the level of solid oxygen or so. And since there is no way that some clip was created or derived from anything in your reporter's body, it is clear that there is no quantum entanglement between those two.
    Additionally, quantum entanglement cannot be used to transmit information. Thus quantum entanglement cannot "optimize joints", "open nerve paths" or do any of the bazillion other things they are claiming their clips are doing.

  • @sabraewing9969
    @sabraewing9969 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in the United States, they don't pay servers minimum wage at all. You could make two dollars an hour, and they will only pay you minimum wage if you don't make the minimum wage through Tips and that is supposed to be legal.

  • @antoniomargallo5317
    @antoniomargallo5317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, but what was written in the name tags though? I know it wasn't Chuck Norris ... because of science.

  • @cathycudney393
    @cathycudney393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah a restaurant tries that trick on me BUT I told them my account told me to request a receipt for my tip out AND to check their accountant about that AND the restaurant did and then gave out tip outs back What is wrong that the servers don't demand receipts If you pay tip out demand a receipt for your income tax as you gave to declare tips on your income tax

  • @normalhuman5603
    @normalhuman5603 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m a 12 year old that understands quantum physics better that the chiropractor scammer

  • @GeordanoVincenzo
    @GeordanoVincenzo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so that is a power balance lookalike in 2018...

  • @rudyanntee
    @rudyanntee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I pay a tip I expect 100% of it will go to the server that served me, not divid among others. Employers need to come out of pocket.

  • @NB79032
    @NB79032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice how they only do the experiment once. Once without the clip, once with the clip. They never remove it to prove the without effect again cuz they know it won't work anymore.

    • @BillNuvo
      @BillNuvo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would hesitate to call what Meetus did on Dragons Den as an experiment. When we did the double blind controlled testing at the University, obviously any "effect" disappeared because there was none to begin with.

  • @VSDeluxe
    @VSDeluxe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where I work we collect any tipout and in the end of the year everyone in the team get the same ammount of Money.

  • @golden4730
    @golden4730 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And because of that I actually waited 15mind outside for the server to finish her shift and i then gave her the $100 tip. Because I know the boss are watching for what's tipped. As soon your server goes into the back they usually ask to put the tip in a jar. And then they give you little from it at the end of the shift. I know this from experience working in the kitchen

  • @zombiasnow15
    @zombiasnow15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why have I never heard of a tip out? Until now?

  • @kloos0705
    @kloos0705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing how a bunch of rich, intelligent people on Dragon's Den can be made fools of so easily. Yuk Yuk Yuk. Five Elmer Fudds in a room. My 10 year old even laughed at their stupidity.

  • @smcd6101
    @smcd6101 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tipping out on sales is absolutely disgusting and corrupt!! These restaurant chains thrive on the shoulders of their workers. If they're not going to give them a raise, they should (at a MINIMUM) give them the tips that they've earned fair and square!

  • @spideywhiplash
    @spideywhiplash 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should reverse how the clips were tested. Put clip on first and do strength test then take it off and do the test.

  • @TNinja0
    @TNinja0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are two cases in one video, and named for only one of the cases? I mean, I wouldn't have known about the tipping part if I was looking for it as a standalone.

  • @longlee1100
    @longlee1100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if these clips debut on shark tank, Mark Cuban will chew them alive lol

    • @jairoherrera4040
      @jairoherrera4040 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Long Lee
      True, When this happen at shark tank with a bracelet instead, Mark Cuban slams the scammer.

  • @ValentineS97
    @ValentineS97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “they help ppl and they’ve been helping ppl everyday. 🙂”
    yeah, they’re helping YOU and YOUR wallet everyday....... duh. 🙄😒😐

  • @only257
    @only257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting😊

  • @Altheaisokay
    @Altheaisokay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    min. wage is 13.50???? id move to CAnada for that.. better than 7.25.. or in some states 1.32 hr

  • @ancalyme
    @ancalyme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It works because uhhhh (*writes quantum in google, checks suggestions*) quantum entanglement!
    Really?

  • @peniparker7968
    @peniparker7968 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree tipouts are way to recognize the efforts of the entire team. Why should servers get all the tips when there is so much that goes on behind the scenes, other then taking the order and bringing it out when its done. A restaurant will only function when you have good staff on the floor and in the kitchen. Someone has a good meal, and it must be all the waitresses doing!

  • @scorchgardenultrahothotsau7919
    @scorchgardenultrahothotsau7919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would NEVER steal the tips my staff would get. Disgraceful.