Mach E Update And Goodbye After 10,000 Miles
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- It's time to bid farewell to our 2021 Ford Mustang Mach E after a year. How has it held u? How much range has it lost? (spoiler alert, not much) and what are my main likes and dislikes as we prepare for the next long-term vehicle? Let's find out!
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About sales and MSRP - I recently read about Ford threatening franchise dealers with penalties for damaging the Ford brand with severe mark ups. This is huge and I hope more manufacturers follow.
unfortunately this only applies to the F150 Lightning. They still marking it up with the Mach E without repercussions.
@@aluciusd1337 I think this is true. That being said my local dealership that I ordered my Mach-E from hasn't got a new one in months. They only have GTs and they're marked up around 15K.
30k markup on a GT performance at the ford dealership near me.
It's lip service. Ford won't do anything, can't do anything, and in their memo they were equal at being anti-consumer also.
The solution is simple, don’t pay over sticker. I just bought a new Santa Cruz for 2k under sticker. Stop paying over sticker or even sticker. 🤦🏻♂️
Nice focused channel Alex. With your excellent communication skills and review techniques I expect this to be a big winner.
Well done as always! Providing such thorough information all the time.
Thank you as always for all the information. It does help so much in trying to make the correct best informed decision.
Excellent and informative. I like the speed of speech. Lots of information, no interruptions. Good diction and precision speaking.
Very cool video. Very well done. Nice Job. Really informative and I appreciate the work you put into it.
Alex, thank you for posting this, very informative
It is amazing to see that Ford actually took the time to put the GPS active charger utility in the car. The fact that is updates itself and guides you around problem charging stations instead of sending you there is actually priceless. Because your time is priceless. Well done, Ford. I hope for Ford brings out a small entry level four-seater EV with a decent range. But all things considered, this is a damn impressive first start for Ford.
Informative review, articulate reviewer, and excellent audio. Thank you and subscribed!
Great, thorough job sir. Thank you.
This was a great review. I have owed one for just over a year and agree with your statements. I am interested in performing the tire upgrade you mentioned.
A very thorough review; thank you
Love the detail in your review!
Alex nice to have all the EV's in on channel, love the channel and good luck!
Great to hear you're still so happy with the Mach-E a year in. The nav for charging is such an oversight for many manufacturers. Only Ford and Tesla really seem to bake that into the native system properly so far.
Super informative video. Thank you.
Great review, no fluff, helpful graphics
Video was well done and very informative well done 👍🏻.
Appreciate the heads up for the new channel
Thanks for addressing the heat pump - that's a major consideration here in the north.
Dealer tech here: in Oct 2021 the CEO said that they were delaying the rollout of the OTA update for Blue Cruise for early adopters to Quarter 1 of 2022 so that they could work on simplifying the OTA process. On Jan 27 they sent out a notice to dealers saying the OTA update would start rolling out and there are two options for download. One is OTA, where the updates will occur in the background while the customer is driving, BUT some updates will require the vehicle to be shut off to download. It might take several WEEKS once OTA updates start before Blue Cruise is fully functional. The other option is complementary software download at the dealership, which is estimated to take between 2 to 8 HOURS with a dealer computer. Obviously this is a huge update. Either way, once Blue Cruise is activated and functioning, early adopters are getting 1 year of complementary Blue Cruise service.
Here's the thing, the 2021 F150 is also part of the Blue Cruise program. All 2021 Raptors were built with the Blue Cruise hardware as part of the Raptor trim level. On Jan 27 they also announced that late in software development, they found that the off road suspension and capability of the Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard. For unsold vehicles they're sending a updated window sticker that reflects a $750 reduction in price. For sold vehicles they're going to reach out to customers and give them a $750 refund. All other early adopter F150s aren't affected, so if the truck has the hardware, the OTA update will be sent out to the truck. The awkward part is the Raptors will still have the hardware (like the IR camera that watches your eyes) which will sit unused and Blue Cruise just won't be activated.
Not sure if the OTA delay for early adopters was really because they were simplifying the OTA update process or tinkering with the Raptor and trying to make it work before deciding it wasn't going to happen, or both. I'm guessing both.
Ford is going to love having to call OTA OS updates RECALLS which is the bs they're pulling with Tesla
"Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard" sounds like lawyer speak for "there is a safety issue". Maybe it comes down to the Raptor's setup needing custom tuning and they don't want to maintain a separate branch for that vehicle. Could even be they found the hardware isn't configured properly for it.
@@FragEightyfive Baseless conspiracy theories.
My blue cruise definitely works
Great video, info, comparisons, and rapid delivery. Time stamps would be cherry on top.
I endorse the tire swap 100%. My F350 has a recommended tire pressure of 75 PSI front, 80 PSI rear, which is simply too high for daily use. Even while towing 5 tons of trailer and tractor it's like driving on beach balls. I don't understand where Ford came up with those numbers, because 60 PSI is my preference and I have never had uneven wear or issues with heat build up or sidewall flex/roll.
Very well done video!
Great review Alex!
Great review, Alex. I just found this channel, after enjoying your other channel. I would be very impressed if Ford could actually deliver on their "100,000 more in 2022" promise. Seeing how they have been idling their plants left and right, lately. Current as of this comment, 8 plants idle and 3 with only a single shift.
not likely. the chip shortages have greatly impacted every brand.
I love this vehicle and have tested it to its max. Snowy conditions, driving from NY to California and back... Very pleased overall
But have you done any barrel rolls? 🤔
You talk fast and there is no fluff. Love your presentation style. Not a minute wasted. I have a 2013 PHEV Fusion and that battery will outlast the car. After a long 9 years and over 180K miles, it is still 12 miles out of 21 miles in the EV battery when new thanks to Ford not letting us use all of the battery. It's not a great car compared to modern vehicles, but it still runs good overall and I'm keeping it til it dies.
That is almost half range lost. I guess the Fusion doesn't have active heating and cooling for the battery pack.
Thank you Alex for talking about how a frunk is kind of legacy of ICE cars profile - I also like the Ioniq 5 and EV6 giving that space to passengers - though still love Mach E
Thanks for review
We have had our Mach-E since June and have 19k miles now. The single biggest thing I would share that Alex touched on is that in cold weather expect up to 50% range loss. The other big pain point is our center screen needs to be rebooted probably 2/5 times we start the car. Not sure if this is cold weather related or not.
Interesting, I'm in cold weather as well and am considering buying one
@@parkerlarsen5858 things that help: being able to plug in when vehicle isn't in use, having a warm garage. We are in northern Wisconsin so we saw temps as low as -20 f this winter. It always starts though! :) Only really a concern if you do what we do which is regularly drive across the state. Make sure you have viable chargers along the way to likely destinations in the winter that are say 80 miles away or more.
I have had the GT for 6 months in Norway. It does lose some range, but I wouldn't go so far as 50%. Never had an issue with the screen.
Maybe Trondheim, Norway isn't as cold as Wisconsin ... -20F is about -28 Celcius so that's quite chilly. We don't get that low numbers but for the inland or the northern areas.
So I have a Jan. 2021 built MachE and I have the higher charging curve and no issues getting OTA. I've had 4 (maybe 5) OTAs. I'm on the current software build. The only thing I'm missing is to be able to open the frunk from the Phone app. I've been very happy with my car.
Same here
Oh that into sent chills down me love it
Alex one thing I don’t think you have considered is what is under that compartment that prevents the frunk from being full size. There’s probably mechanical equipment that prevents that space from being used. Just something to consider…
I didn't realize you had this channel until I saw on your main - subbed! All this EV talk pretty much convinced me to wait another 5 years before I consider one. I have a F150 Tremor, and I originally reserved a Lightning. I have since cancelled the reservation- they are simply not ready yet.
Welcome aboard!
I have been driving an EV for 5 years and I can tell you its the best experience with a car I have ever had. These are great cars. I would have taken your reservation!!
EVs aren't for everybody and won't be for quite some time unfortunately. Battery technology still needs improved for improved range, charge times and expected lifespan. The next biggest requirement is cost vs. ICE.
Excellent review
excellent video sir
I love the Lincoln Black Label rims you put on it!!!!
Nice detailed review
Thanks for the detailed review! I just got a Bolt EV but this was really helpful for me to see the differences. I'm guessing the price difference makes the Bolt EUV not a competitor but I found it surprising that the EUV has combined leg room of 83.4 inches, more than every other car in the list. Bolt EUV 2nd row headroom is a little tighter though beating only the Niro EV and the Model 3.
Good point on the back door easy-to-be-scrached. my ring definitly will screach it when I grab...
Thank you!
So excited this channel exists!
Can you share a link to your tires? Are they strictly summer tires or All-season?
Great review.
How has the piano black trim on the outside of the car held up especially around the wheel wells, etc.?
Excellent review. I’ve been curious about this vehicle, even though I bought a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost. I learned quite a bit, although for the foreseeable future I’ll stay with the regular Mustang.
In all reality, I think they’re aimed at different audiences. I think Ford used the Mustang as the inspiration and mainly used the name to create attention. But the Mach E seems to be aimed at the person who wants the speed of a Mustang, but for whom the Mustang is no longer practical because he may have children or may regularly ride passengers. Perhaps a person who would otherwise get an Edge but wants something that sits a little lower.
@@dmandman9 So they aimed this Mach E at wannabe people? Nah, the target market would buy an Escape or Bronco Sport if they came out as an EV, the Mustang name wouldn't influence them. They share the same platform albeit modified anyway, so not many would be able to tell any performance differences. This vehicle just doesn't know what it wants to be, it's a crossover trying to masquerade as a Mustang but failed at it. Attaching the Mustang name to it just tells me Ford did not have confidence in their electric vehicle technology so they attached the Mustang name to try and salvage it. When they said we were getting an electric Mustang, people thought we getting a 2 door sports car that would go up against the Tesla Model S. It being a crossover was a large disappointment and largely written off as such. It was only that highly modified Mach E that some builder created that generated the first positive news for it, but that one shared very little with the production Mach E. And only the GT that brought in the performance people were expecting.
@@bl8danjil They’re selling all they can produce and are actually selling more of them than the “real” Mustang. I’m not a fan of them putting the Mustang name on it. But it’s selling. This vehicle is more likely to share an audience with the Model Y. That’s who everyone is comparing it to. As for performance, Fords regular Mustang GT is the one they look to for performance as well. So it was always expected that the Mach E GT would be the performance model. It’s Ford’s first serious effort at an EV. So I believe things will only improve from here.
@@dmandman9 It was the only ev from Ford. If they only sold one type of vehicle obviously that vehicle is going to "sell." Or if they only sold black cars, they could say black cars are selling out. There is just nothing to compare it to in their lineup, which is funny because the Escape and Bronco Sport ride on the same platform.
I know who they were trying to compete with. It was obvious it was the model Y. That was not my point. They could have slapped the Escape name or Bronco Sport name on it and they would have sold just as many. If they had made an actual electric sports car, not a crossover, Mustang they would have satisfied the Mustang fans too. Instead they got dunked on at launch.
@@bl8danjil If I’m not mistaken , there is an EV Mustang in the works. By the way, it’s NOT in ANY way related to the Escape/Bronco sport. 1. It’s primarily rear wheel drive with all wheel drive optional. The Escape is fwd, The Bronco Sport is all wheel drive but front wheel biased. 2. The Mach e front suspension is virtually the same as the Regular Mustang. I looked underneath. Its basically an extended Mustang chassis wise modified for an electric motor between the wheels. Much like a stretch limo. I didn’t realize it until I went the the Mustang Training class and the instructor showed us a few things. Again, totally different from the Escape/Bronco. As for the ridicule, part of the reason for the name sharing was indeed to create the “buzz” . People started talking that normally wouldn’t. Free publicity. Then people drove it and found even the base version was faster than most versions of the current Mustang. Yes, it’s a crossover. No, it’s not marketed at the same demographic as the regular Mustang. Ford has one thing in mind: sell it. A couple version would NOT have sold as many because people simply don’t buy that many coupes. Coupes are a niche market. So they wanted to make it closer to mainstream If the only complaint against this vehicle is the wrong name, that’s no big deal. Most simply call it the Mach E anyway. . In a few years it’ll probably be officially named the Mach e. And a real Coupe will likely be called the Mustang. That’s just my prediction.
Again, the Escape Bronco sport have NOTHING in common with the Mach e platform. Whoever said that gave you some misinformation. The Bronco sport, escape and MAVERICK share the same platform.
Not with a gun to my head, a knife to my throat, or any in other form of coercion will I EVER acknowledge this car as a Mustang.
How about with a $12,500 federal rebate?
3:24 The purpose of the front is to absorb a front impact. You have crush zoned on the frame. So yes, it's very much necessary.
My 2021 MME Premium was built in December '21 and came with Blue Cruise installed. I wonder why the delay for earlier builds?
Having the hazard lights on really makes this video special. Innovative, epic, sheer genius!!
Great rundown of your experiences without the cultish devotion that would either have you tend to glorify the Mach-E or denigrate it in service to brand loyalty for another EV maker! I've been following reviews of the Mach-E since test driving a Premium 4EX last summer, and yours have been consistently the most informative.
This video makes me feel better about not succumbing to the high degree of interest that I had after my test drive and watching countless videos on this and other EVs. I'm old enough to be patient, and my gut was telling me that it's a bad idea to buy the first generation of any new model (or significant overhaul of an existing model). That seems to have been very wise in retrospect because of the growing pains that early buyers are facing and how many changes have already come to the later models. In time, I'm sure the software updates will be normalized, but we live in a society where software is updated regularly and it's made us an impatient lot.
I don't recall having an issue with the tires on my test drive, but with so much new and just a few hours of seat time, there's only so much to notice. I didn't take it canyon-carving or for an autocross event, so I didn't stress the grip of the tires like others have. While I didn't find the ride at all harsh, I have to admit to really wanting the Magneride suspension just for that extra level of adjustability in the suspension. I don't need all the other things that come with the GT Performance Edition, so the tremendous bump in price cannot be justified.
In my mind, this vehicle is a great family version of a Mustang. The "not a Mustang" crowd needs to remember that not all Mustangs have been GTs and Shelby models. Not everyone wants that, and not everyone needs that for a vehicle they want to use every day. Perhaps the criticisms of those that want everything, want it cheap, and want it now will persuade Ford to keep paying attention and improve their operations. Tesla didn't come out of the gates with vehicles at the level of quality and performance that they exhibit today, so patience is key. It will be interesting to watch how Ford supports the vehicles that have already been sold, and how it handles the improvements that they should make to future models. It will also be interesting to see if/how the 300-pound gorilla reacts over time!
"Real Mustang that got stung by a bee"... good one Alex!
Been waiting to see how you've felt about it. My build is still without an ETA for the production, let alone delivery after 6+ months, so it's been enjoyable to watch your thoughts. At least I've got an M240i Xdrive in production!
We took delivery of our 2021 Mach E December 2021. We have full Blue Cruise capability. It's no where near Tesla autopilot, but works fairly well in high density traffic situations, and it's totally hands free. We have received OTA updates for Blue Cruise in the last couple weeks as well. I'm not sure why your 2021 still doesn't have Blue Cruise....it's definitely available.
Great review!! On the things you would like to see changed on the Mach E do you see those changes on the 2022 models? California Route 1? Or other models? I've been concerned about going fully electric versus PHEV due to Hoover Dam water levels that could make it a dead pool and force them to buy level2 power and pricing of electricity goes up. Thoughts? Thanks again for your review and I love the rims!!
I love it 🥰 inside and out
Hi Alex, I really like those wheels and would like to find something similar, which model year mkz wheels are those.? Which size?
Thank-you
Markups are insane. I’ve been looking and the GTs are typically 15-20k over. I had a dealer try to sell me a select base model no options for 60k 😂
I’m just gonna go for another brand. Volvo is doing 5k under msrp. I can put up with 3 years of a hybrid instead of paying 15k over for a car with limited features.
Another very informative video Alex! Would you recommend 245 or 255 width tires? I’m switching to 20x9 wheels. Thanks
According to the folks at Ford I spoke with, 255s will have slight running issues so I’d stop at 245
Good summation of your experience. It is hard to see this as anything but a glowing endorsement of the Mach E. I don't have one, a test drive convinced me it was simply bigger than I wanted. I prefer a car sized car for personal use, rather than one trying to be an SUV. Nevertheless, I am very pleased to see this historic American company changing direction to embrace EV technology with such a quality and effective product.
Car sized car? The mach E is not much bigger then a gas mustang or a land yatch like a Rolls or old Cadies.
Also good luck getting any small that's quality besides the MX-30 as my 2020 Gas mustang is like a foot smaller then my 2002 Suberban...
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I have a Lucid Air GT on order. It is spacious inside without having that SUV feel.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough it's actually smaller than the regular Mustang
How is that instrument cluster as the sun goes down (and comes in the rear window)? Or is it always legible?
Great detailed review Alex, must say I'm impressed with this first effort by Ford into the EV market. Thank you for another interesting and informative video.
Only took about a minute before the flashing turn signal forced me to seek out a small piece of electrical tape to put on the screen - the same fix I used for the flashing 12:00 on my VCR.
i know it would have added to the cost but another 5" wider (or 3 1/2' wider and 1 1/2" shorter) would have done wonders for the look and some heritage.
I’ll be interested when I can get an awd one of these for around 35
Wishful thinking on my part though
My interest is peaked and idc about the Mustang name and I do like the styling and size and hatchback like versatility. I’m going to give it a couple years and hopefully they come down a little on price and figure out some of the quirks but it’s a great start
when you changed the wheels and tires the speedomter and odometer is off, right? Unless they are using GPS to correct it or there is a menu to change tire size.
Is there a correlation between frunks and crash test ratings? Seems it would be beneficial and serve as a longer crumple zone.
I have an 885 mile trip to the Smoky Mtns. coming up this fall. There is no way I want to stop twice just to recharge batteries. Wouldn’t touch this car.
Those with Mach-Es (mine's in chip hold after being built) have said that, if you precondition (not just remote start) your Mach-E while charging, it will warm the battery and you'll lose less range for winter.
this is true, and it’s one of my gripes with Ford for this. why in the world do i need to remote “start” my EV? why can’t i just manually start a precondition cycle? i would love for it to let me hit that button, and tell me how long it will take to be ready in current conditions, instead of just starting up and “running” for 15/30 minutes
I have submitted feedback asking for the Ford Pass app to be able to adjust the settings for the Climate control module thru the app. To me it just makes sense rather then letting the computer use preset configurations.
The rear doors don't have a handle because when Ford tested it out, people would open the door without using the handle and would typically grab it up by the button instead of on the body.
I appreciate your POV on 1PD regarding range/efficiency. In my circumstances most driving is stop and go around town. I use 1PD with its full stop thinking that I am extending my brake maintenance interval. Am I missing something?
With an EV with a blended braking system, which is basically all EVs except Tesla, there will be zero difference if you are driving your vehicle moderately. Whether you use the brake pedal or “one pedal” regen is happening until the final end of the stopping event where friction braking is “blended” in.
We love our Mach-E!
Is there a safety factor to having the longer front end? Longer crumple zone seems like it would be better, but perhaps not.
Thanks for the long term review. We went to a couple EV events and were able to try out the Mach E, Toyota BZ4X, EV6, Lucid and XC40. I had put the Mach E very low on my list, but came away impressed. What we kind of didn't like was the "tacked" on iPad and the panorama roof. I think I can live with the iPad and I see you addressed the roof. Seems counterintuitive to have a source of excessive heat and then rely on the a/c to compensate for it drawing dependent electrons. We still need to look at the Ioniq 5, our #1 and the Ariya, #2, but now the Ford is #3.
Excellent review as usual , only small suggestion is to make the channel logo on the lower left hand side a bit smaller as it's taking a bit too much of the screen .
It will shrink in future, we needed it to cover the logos on the graphic set we're borrowing from Alex On Autos LOL
Can the heat in the cabin be turned off or turned down to extend range?
Regarding front trunk and front overhang length. What about safety in a crash? Isn’t likely that a longer “hood” provides a better crumple zone making the vehicle likely to perform better in a frontal crash?
Got a serious recall issue the wiring fuses together
Thanks good coverage ,agree charging curve should be upgraded
Nice review, Alex! Did the tire upgrade improve the ride any, especially for the backseat passengers?
None,the tire dimensions ar3 too close to the original
None,the tire dimensions ar3 too close to the original
Lincoln MKC wheels fit on the Mach-e ? That opens so many possibilities for customization then !
I’m similar miles on same car, when the trail of the built in GPS, Alexa and blue oval is over are they gona charge people monthly to use built in feature
So what would you do in Canada at -30C ? Drive 2 miles?
We bought my wife’s Mach E California Route 1 Edition in Sept 2021 and it came with Blue Cruise. Not sure why yours doesn’t yet have it.
Ford has not said why, but very early adopters cannot get that software update
Hello, Is maintaining the white seats hard? Any stains like blue jeans rubbing off on the seats. I was also thinking of getting the interior in white. Thanks
That's one of those "we are obligated as a reviewer to mention this" things that no reviewer ever mentions. Therefore, I wouldn't expect to ever get an answer. I hope I'm wrong though, since I would like to know too.
Doesn't the wheel upgrade void the warranty?
While I'm not totally convinced by the extra price of my 2021 MME GT, I am super happy it actually shipped with BlueCruise and I've been able to use it for the last 8 or so months (since I got it in early November). I would be very upset with Ford if I wasn't able to use BlueCruise on the MME Premium I nearly bought. One of the big features that the MME is supposed to have.
How do you feel about the white seating?
What speeds were you driving at to achieve these ranges?
Incredibly depressing that people are actually buying this thing.
My 2021 I bought back in Dec 2021 has full blue cruise and got the fast charge update. I'd be pissed if I bought the first ones and got pushed aside.
A side note for frunks on this older vid: It is does make excellent crash protection. In a front end damage, it avoids damage to the EV system because the frunk is where damage occurs, improving repairability.
Holy moly - 140 mile range with the heater on. Someone up north is would surely die while stranded.
Nice review. I think the Mach-E is the best non Tesla EV out there but a ton of new options coming out now. I still have an issue adding an hour of stops to a 350 mile trip. Even though that's not every day (up to 3-5 times a year for me), unless you can always charge at home it definitely adds to trip time. PS: I drive through WV which is well behind CA and other states in charging infrastructure.
You could always just rent an ICE car for your infrequent long trips.
the Michelin pss or p4s is a superior tire in every way, if you upgrade on your next one I highly recommend giving those a shot.
Would a petroleum powered heater make for better range?
Alex, would you expect Ford to increase the efficiency of the vehicle down the road? Where do you see the losses? All in the electric motor, or is it just coefficient of drag?
There are always things that can be done software wise to improve efficiency
I have a 2021 GTPE, and my only complaint is the radio presets randomly reset for no apparent reason. Very annoying. Actually, I have 2 complaints, the 2nd being the navigation is poor and I hate that it constantly says to go to the carpool lane.
Alex, how many OTA updates have you received in the last year? Also, how many were fixes to problems vs new features/improvements to existing features? I would love to see auto reviewers provide more in-depth coverage of OTA updates. With many OEMs making a big deal of OTA updates in the marketing of their EVs, most if not all (except Tesla) still seem to far short with software updates that still require dealer visits or releasing very few or no updates at all.
Most people who are not in the software business have no idea how complicated software is. It takes an army of software engineers to maintain and write new code everyday. Ford? No way, unless they move their headquarters to Silicon Valley and hire an army of software engineers there. Until then, forget about anything decent from Ford, or almost any other legacy automakers.
Just curious if you did any motor calculations after you changed tire size? Its really not that simple as just changing tires on an engine car. You can def burn out your motor putting to much load and causing it to "overhaul". You have some braking regen to help that but your just gonna burn out your windings....... Please tell me you at least thought about this?
You can also only run 80% of your battery, which none of you know and so they have to make sure you dont use the last 20% or there goes your battery. Its like none of you even understand what an electric car is. Or how it operates. Its NOT a gas engine and ALL the characteristics are changed. I sincerely hope people start to LEARN the differences instead of break things and think its a manufacturers issue.