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- I mean, c'mon. He could easily just go after Kenobi himself.
Besides, don't they have TIE fighters on that Star Destroyer?
Haven't they invented tractor beams yet?
So many questions...
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From episode 6 of Obi-Wan Kenobi - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
The fact that the whole star destroyer couldn't destroy a small ship for like 10 minutes straight is hilarious
Also apparently the destroyer is just completely empty and has zero tie fighters…
Eh, it makes sense inasmuch the Empire was chiefly concerned with capital ship-versus-capital ship engagements. This is why it skimped heavily on their air superiority craft, and was a major component to the destruction of the Death Star. Only a select few officers, like Grand Admiral Thrawn, wanted to change military doctrine to adapt to countering guerrilla warfare.
@@christianyaerger1751 Sure but TIE fighters....Even without TIEs the ISD has a tractor beam and many many smaller armaments that could hit the vessel
Same could be said about the first scene in a new hope but nobody talks about that
@@runisa but they got them in no time
The worst part is that he demands that they ALL go after Obi-Wan and then makes them wait behind. Pure idiocy.
And they werent even there when he left the planet
The idiocy is thinking Vader gave two thoughts about a rag tag group of freedom fighters with fucking Kenobi right there. This ain’t the rebellion yet people
@@Tom-bn6pr some on that ship were Jedi and force sensitive creatures.
@@APerson5569. do you really think vader would care
Disney killed all of the original characters. Inconsistent all the time. Everything Disney touches these days dies.
"I'll deal with him myself" is literally the most Vader thing he could've said but Disney just has to suck at making star wars
Dude, Disney doesn't write these things. Blame the actual writers for this rather than the distribiuters of the IP.
They're too focused on their new mantra "tHe fOrCe Is fEmaLe"
@@hansenbrothers Who do you think hired the writers?… 💀
@@Tobor.Destroyer.of.Worlds lucasfilm the director literally anyone but Disney who just funds the money
@@powerfullpummel6417 And who pays them. Argue all you want, I’m irrefutably correct. No matter how bad you want it to not be true, tough 🤷🏻♂️. Whoever signs the front of checks is in charge. If you sign the back, you aren’t shit. It’s a business 😂 kinda obvious money talks
Or, you know, TIE fighters.
Get that logic out of here! Women are men haven’t you heard?!
@@sublimechimp ?
@@justsi668 I was ironically scolding him for being logical and not simply accepting what was shown to him .. in a time where we are expected to accept that women can be men and we’re not allowed to ask questions about it
Ties don't have hyperdrive though. Once you launch the Ties, Obiwan will jump to hyperspace.
@@sublimechimp - you're either a child with bad parents or an adult that severely needs diversity training and therapy for whatever abused you
It's almost like star destroyers carrier smaller vessels for this kind of scenario! Enemy splits up, send a handful of fighters after each of the smaller vessels, and pursue the highest priority target with the star destroyer itself!
Vader even takes a shuttle from the Star Destroyer to the ship like 5 minutes later, all on his own lmao. There's literally no reason why he couldn't have just done that in the first place.
Nah they needed leia to be alive so everyone needed plot armor lol
@@Gordakiprime nah launch her in an escape pod and then have Vader take her to Tarkin. Then. The line "Governor Tarkin I recognized that foul stench as soon as I was brought on board" would have some meaning.
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Right? I mean, why would you move an entire cruiser if not to also transport troops and fighters?
This also would have explained how Vader's Star Destroyer is suddenly nowhere to be found after the battle and Obi-Wan just leaves the planet no problem
Also, obi wan made the same mistake he did in revenge of the sith. Walking away and not making sure anakin and/or vader was dead
@@xXESproductionsXx if you actually expected Vader to die, then that's on you. 🤣
@@watchmesquatch no..I didn't expect it. I knew he wasn't going to die, obviously. They messed up how they did it, making obi wan make the same mistake. Should have made it so Vader escaped or something.
@@xXESproductionsXx Obi Wan couldnt have just killed Vader there, not because plot armor its because its against the jedi code. Jedi do not kill people who cannot fight back at the time. Thats why it was a serious issue when Anakin killed Dooku
@@razvan8292 what about mace windu who tried to kill palpatine.
Have we forgotten about Vader flying his own kickass TIE Advanced?
He doesn't have that yet. Doesn't explain the scene but I think that's a later development.
first appearance of that is in the first star wars movie (by date). this plays before that. vader also doesnt have his TIE in Star Wars the Force Unleashed yet. where the deathstar is already in construction. so i guess his TIE was an addition to the completion of the deathstar
@@zero.Identity it appears in Rebels 4 years before Yavin, so 5 years after the Kenobi series. I had to look it up
I also missed it, but I guess he still didn't have that ship at this time
@@zero.Identity force unleashed is not canon and in canon the construction of the death star started not long after the second battle of Geonosis (yes, the republic started to build it, but the jedi did not know about it)
That's what happens when you have bad writers trying to mix in a bunch of stuff that can't affect canon. If Leia weren't involved, the stakes would have been much higher for everyone in that ship.
It’s almost like there’s a story reason as to why Vader might not be in the mental state to make the best decisions
Or, and here me on this, Vader is blinded by the need to go against Obi-Wan and doesn't give a flying fuck about a bunch of poor people. This is not bad writing, you just love shitting on stuff.
Yeah I just don't buy Vader's IQ dropping to negative values just because Obi is involved. I doubt the writers are talentless though, sadly lots of people outside the writing team get a say in what can't/needs to happen.
@@Agherosh no it is. But this one is acceptable.
@@avegasuarez That's been a thing since Legends. If the even the slight possibility Obi was involved in something post-ROTS Vader got massive tunnel vision. They even kind of showed it a bit in back in Rebels when Vader immediately brings up Kenobi might be a surviving Jedi Ahsoka knows (with the Ian Mcdiarmid redub of Palpatine sounding even more annoyed of as well).
This made me furious because there were so many options. Tractor beams, tie fighters, light speed, calling in backup. Not to mention that Star destroys are heavily implied to be some of the fasted ships in the galaxy a decade after this show.
The emperor ordered an upgrade of all imperial ships right after this incident
Don't forget that the dark side of the force effects the mind... right now, it's being commanded by Vader who isn't thinking straight... he is blinded by rage and humiliation and as a Sith, it's his nature to follow it.... and he will not allow himself to be commanded by a lesser...
@@TheDeathmail but I thought anger gives you focus 🙄
@@TheDeathmail doesn't work like that
Just as dumb as you can blow up the entire death star because of a ventilation?
Freaking.. A iron fence could have saved the entire death star. But no.. let's leave the literal nuclear core of the station exposed
Any time you make a decision in life, just be like, "What would Thrawn do?"
Calling Vader out for his bullshit and actually be respected for it.
I don't know what art my IRS auditor is into.
Vader hasn't been making rational decision for a long time.
Exhibit A: Jumping over the head of a guy ready to stab you.
Note: Said guy was also literally telling him not to do it right before he did it.
yeahhhhhh that's just the simpleton way of accepting bad writing :P
tbf, he was high on that evil force stuff and wasn't in his right mind. That's why drugs are bad for you.
@@Jetblast01
Exactly.
Kenobi is the established supplier of Vader's unending supply of Evil Force Drugs.
I think a lot of what Kenobi is meant to show the viewers is the continued transformation of Anakin into Vader. This is the same man who wanted to abandon chase of Dooku when Padme fell out of the Gunship. His decision making isn't rational here, but this ends up being used as a character development point as the emporer sees this flaw.
Clear lack of media literacy
more surprised they didnt just use their tractor beam
doubt the range on that beam is that good?
@@andrea_ottaviano_augusto88 who knows with this weird show lol
I don’t know what’s dumber Vader not doing this or the fact that kenobi thought his plan would work
EXACTLY
Disney: "we kind of forgot star destroyers carry swarms of Tie fighters and hoped you would too"
Also how did Kenobi get off the planet if the destroyer was right outside it?
he left via ship and hyperspaced tfo i'm sure
leave out the other side of the planet? the side the star destroyer isn't on? 🤷♂️
think 3 dimensional
Also how the fuck did reva get back to tattooine that fast?
@@-007-2 That's not really how Star Wars works. If that were the case, planetary blockades would be a complete non issue. In the Star Wars universe there exists something called hyperspace and in order to enter hyperspace you need to be at the right position by an existing hyperspace lane.
@@tseh3 Then he just went to another hyperlane, not that hard to understand.
80% of this show is "but how did? Why did? That's not?" The other 20% is us going "AWE ITS LITTLE ORPHAN ANI" whenever Hayden is on screen
Because the crappy writing team behind Kenobi knows they can pull heart strings by giving you Hayden to disillusion you from the shitty service of this show.
@@wanyekest6969 "Kenobi: a wtf is this story" they missed an open layup
Characters making bad decisions is not bad writing, it makes them flawed.
@@theechoproject899 So Vader is just supposed to be stupid? People defend this dumb scene by saying "Well yeah, Anakin has always made bad and dumb decisions!" Which basically just means he's a dumbass
@@theechoproject899 Characters not dying when they are killed twice, not being able to catch children, having lightsabers bounce off your plastic armour or hurtling HEAVY FUCKING ROCKS at you and not even leaving a scratch is pretty piss poor writing.
They've completely forgotten Vader's personal Tie Fighter
That's what I've been screaming about. Why the hell can we not see Vader flying his custom TIE advanced again?
It must have been destroyed between episode IV and V otherwise he could have pursued the Falcon into the asteroid field and disabled their engines without risking the star destroyers. So fine, his ship is gone.
But in this scene I was hoping to see his TIE again.
@@michaeljones8168 Dude. That’s exactly my thought process down to the core. I’ve just come to the conclusion that the writers genuinely forgot lmao
@@llnnie No, one thing the writers payed attention to actually. In Rebels S1, which happens AFTER the kenobi show, we see that the empire built a prototype of the TIE ADVANCED (aka vaders TIE), we see the grand inquisitor piloting it. Later in S2 of rebels, Vader then has his famous personal TIE ADVANCED.
@@lubosan4786 Thank you for the clarification. Helps other SW fans and I not jump to conclusions and get toxic towards disney 👍
@@lubosan4786 then when was the normal tie fighter invented?, was it during obi wan timeline or after?
I really hate how they keep making ships getting away from Star Destroyer all the time which heavily devalues the Millennium Falcon because it's the only ship in the galaxy that able to outrun Star Destroyer which makes the MF extremely special and an iconic symbol in the entire SW franchise
The millennium falcon isn't the only ship to outrun a Star Destroyer.
@@darkwolf4434 yeah sure you can have a few other exceptions as long as they are reasonable but making all ships outrunning Star Destroyer is just stupid plot armor. Now we're having transport ship equipped with hyperdrive and is faster than SD like wtf is that? Ship modification and upgrade is as big of a thing in SW just as it is in real life for car/motorbike enthusiasts. It's like why would you even need to get a F1 when a Mini cooper can be just as fast lol
@@billyleho7839 The Star Destroyer isn't that fast. The millennium falcon isn't that impressive either when it comes to speed. It's Hyperdrive is what's impressive.
@@darkwolf4434 Star Destroyers are actually quite fast. They just aren't very maneuverable
@@_kommandant_3055 Yep, but nothing close to fighters or faster warships like the providence class.
Yeah this is one of those scenes that drove me crazy since when he arrives on that planet he obviously arrived in his ship, why would he ever need the Star Destroyer on standby? lol
I just imagine the grand inquisitor and everybody on the bridge drinking coffee and waiting for Vader 🤣
If they had Obi-Wan about to kill him and then a fleet coming in to retrieve him, I'd have been more forgiving. Would have also fixed the fact that Obi-Wan just let him live to carry on murdering millions.
@@gamersinacontainer it does make sense that obi wan didnt kill him. Check some videos about that topic
@@TyraVid Do those videos explain why Obi-Wan asks Luke to kill his father? It doesn't make sense after watching this show.
It's even funnier when you realize that one episode back they sad to Obi Wan that they don't have any ship left for him and Leia..
When I was watching the show I was expecting Vader to get into his Tie or something and chase and shoot Kenobi down.
Would've been rad.
HECK YEAH
This is what i wanted to see! Vader saying "prepare my ship" would've been sick and also make much more sense than the crappy writing where apparently the Imperial Star Destroyer has no TIE fighters to send after the Rebel ship ??? they wanted to show Vader obsessed with Obi Wan but it ends up being insulting as if he needs to choose at all when the option to have BOTH is RIGHT THERE.
"prepare my ship"
Don't you mean: "Bring my shuttle"
I like best "Ready my ship." from "The Empire Strikes Back"
Look you can either have character conflict or world-building. Both would actually be a bit difficult to write and Disney is just a small studio without much experience.
@@Chillerll yeah those poor guys did what they could with limited budget and crew
Vader’s choice in the show is consistent with his character
Amazing how much better this show could've been if someone actually just used their brains! Thank you for these!
The entire show was a lesson in wtf moments. The writers and directors didn't allow critical minds to look at their crappy work for fear of damaging their egos.
no, absolutely not. It's just how best watchable fairy tales are made, they made a perfect fan service, for SO MANY groups of people, just not for canon-familiar fans. It's perfect for kids (leia, chase scene, drone scenes), anime fans (vader vs obi-wan -> anime powers and comeback), and new, casual fans (don't care about canon, just fan service all around). I watched it and really liked it, but after a second thought, it destroys so many things in the OT.......
@@boguszmakowski2357 did you actually read the comment before jumping on the Bandwagon??
This comment is clearly about the lack of logic applied to this show.
"For animé lovers, for children" I feel you've not watched much animé if you mistake OTT premises for poor execution. As for kids movies.. Kenobi was minions grade writing, where it should have been on par with the long awaited Toy Story 3.
@@boguszmakowski2357 what does it destroy in the OT? I admit there are some dumb scenes like vaders decision in this scene, the leia chase scene too but it doesn't really break any continuity. If it did we would have a thousand videos already pointing it out.
@@Chillerll it essencially makes the new hope's duel less logical. by far less logical. it wouldn't look like this if they would actually duel like THIS seven years before, and the dialogues don't fit in. Also, the way obi wan spares vader is too forcefully influenced by those two canon pieces not fitting together
@@justahobbiest i dont agree that producer's egos or not thinking made this show like that, and i just told why so. i also didnt agree on this work being crappy. as i said, it is a perfect moneymaker, and a good show for anyone not caring about canon. i also explain lack of logic by it's fairytaileness and animeness, both being WANTED byproducers ;)
This makes 1000x more sense than Vader being like "wait here while I go fight Obi Wan myself" as the Rebel ship gets away.
Not really. That's not in character for vader. It's an allusion to AotC battle of geonosis. Padme falls out of the ship and anikan orders the entire gunship to turn around. He would've left Obi Wan on his own to fight dooku to save padme. Obi had to negate the order and tell anikan to stop being an idiot
There is bad writing in the series but this isnt one of those incidents. An emotional vader acts irrationally. All vader is thinking at the time is that he wants to get Obi Wan. He doesn't even care about the rebel ship compared to obi wan. By diverting the star destroyer it forces Obi Wan to find the nearest planet to land on rather than just running all across the galaxy away from vaders ship
Bad writing would be figuring out how obi got off the planet without being blasted away by the high inquisitor
@@TheBacknblack92 But the gunship in AotC didn't have a full squadron of TIE fighters on board that could be sent after Obi Wan's ship (with Vader piloting one of them) while the main ship, under the capable leadership of the Grand Inquisitor, chases after the rest of the rebels.
@@TheBacknblack92 AotC happened like what 15 years ? or so before this, so I find it a reach to say he still acts exactly the same as he did as an emotional 19 year old...
@@TheBacknblack92 Eh you could defend that if you want, but this alone was not the only instance of "bad writing" in this show. almost every other scene I was face palming in confusion from the things people are doing in this show.
"its like, what thrawn would do" - absolutely killed me
Imagine building that massive star destroyer without the capability of a simple lock-on system
its not the lockon system thats an issue. Its their reluctance to put on any kind of small/fighter class ship countermeasures on the damn things. This is literally the equivalent of a battleship firing their main big cannons at a sailboat. Except all of their guns are main big cannons.
I figure a Star Destroyer's targeting and weapons systems are more meant for larger targets. Enemy capital ships, bases, cities.
Course that still leaves the problem of why they'd fire a Star Destroyer's weapons at such a small target instead of launching TIE fighters.
Well this is the sort of thing that's to be expected when you have people writing Star Wars who know absolutely nothing about stars or wars.
You know, when you look back at the OT and see how everytime the Millennium Falcon - a highly maneuverable transport that handles itself like a Starfighter and not some bulky transport - was chased by a Star Destroyer, it never comes out of it unscathed. Lets go over a few examples, shall we?
-A New Hope. Gets chased by two, its deflector shields fail (hits are taken off screen) and jumps to lightspeed. Only minor damage.
-Empire Strikes Back. Chased by a grand total of three after escaping Hoth with Tie Fighters constantly on its trail. Han remembers the Y-axis plane exists, and flees into a dense Asteroid field. Falcon gets nailed by an asteroid impacting the hull. "That wasn't a laser blast - something hit us!"
-Empire Strikes Back. Take a really *nasty* blow from the Star Destroyer 'Avenger' that the thing actually is knocked around a bit.
-Empire Strikes Back. The Executor Super Star Destroyer and Tie Fighters fire funnels the Falcon to get a solid position to get Tractor Beam'd, since Vader wants Luke alive. Probably the only chase sequence that it doesn't take any hits.
-Return of the Jedi. Shields at least once in the heat of a giant ass battle. Later loses sensor dome inside the Death Star.
The whole fact that the Star Destroyer 'Devastator' could not hit a frickin transport the size of a Corellian Corvette and yet the OT had the Falcon take damage virtually every single time it has been chased is nothing short then ridiciouless. Can we have like, competent bad guys please? I liked it back when the Empire was always considered to be a significant threat, not an absolute joke.
@Nero X Your explanation makes the whole show better.
When was the Empire competent? They couldn't shoot for shit and got wrecked by Ewoks. They couldn't even hit Luke in A New Hope after Obi-Wan died and he was standing in an open hangar with no cover with like five stormtroopers shooting at him.
@@andrewfinch76 simmer down buddy. It's a Star War in a galaxy far away, no need to die on this hill.
Andor: I gotchu
Wonder if tractor beamz were only invented a few years before the battle of Yavin...
Nah the pykes made use of one in Clone Wars.
@@brianboardwell1986 oh boy.
They only existed when it fit the story. It worked in Episode 4 but only in 5 when the executor was there, not with normal Star Destroyers.
Tractor Beams have a limited range and generally were used for guiding ships so they could dock they were not made for capturing so it’s harder to Tractor Beam a ship preforming evasive maneuver.
In addition to this, I would've had the vader v obi wan fight intercut with the rebels getting their drive working and booking it out, then when vader is defeated instead of Obi wan just leaving him alive, its because the star destroyer was back and they'd sent a detachment down to defend their lord, so obi wan leaves because of troops arriving and blasting in his direction, not because of fee fees.
Would make a nice parallel of how Tala saved him from vader before...
Would have made infinitely more sense. This show did SO MUCH damage to Obi-Wan’s character. Letting Vader live here is unforgivable. On top of that, he utterly fails to defend Luke, who only survives because Reva (🤮) has a change of heart.
And also "send the tie fighters" rather than just shooting with the main ship.
There's something so wrong about hearing Vader say, "that guy."
Could’ve been worse:
Inquisitor “They’re getting away”
Darth “Inquisitor Brutha, please
I suddenly had a vision of the "most wrong" thing Vader could say and I had a flashback to "Sho'Nuff, The Shogun of Harlem" from The Last Dragon.....
In other words, what if Lucasfilm didn’t make me a tactical idiot?
"new acct."
@@justsi668 Read my channel description. Lol
You mean Disney
"I will deal with this Jedi myself"
meanwhile Obi-Wan in his ship: "your move"
You fool, I've been trained in your Jedi arts by... yourself
TH-cam algorythm is being generous and suggesting me all of these great edits lol
"send out some tie fighters idk"
This is literally the only show releated to Star Wars were I see the empire not using their TIE Fighters 💀.
Tie fighters didn't exist at this point in time
@@Faroshkas You can see them at Fortress Inquisitorius. And even if they didn't exist yet they would have another type of fighter.
@@scrrin Yeah I lied
This original scene PISSED ME OFF lol, you hit the nail on the head.
More like what would Mi’thrawn’do, amiright?!
Mitth'raw'nuruodo
I never understood what Disney has against sending hoards of Tie-fighters
You mean the crappy team behind Kenobi? Because clearly they did right with Rogue One and Mandalorian. In fact, guy who did RO is directing Andor. Already better than this
@@wanyekest6969 that and the 'chase' in the TLJ. Kylo Ren alone in a fighter took out the bridge and the hangar of Rebellion's ship. Why not send a thousand more then?
Budget constraints.
Same thing Lucas had?
I mean there are nine TIEs on screen defending Death Star I. There are four TIEs chasing after Falcon in TESB. The Falcon also manages to saunter past Executor with only minor inconvenience... Etc.
It's not a Disney thing. It is in general Star Wars thing. Heck, even at Endor the TIEs look impressive... Because they appear all at once. But once the general engagement starts there doesn't seem to be notably more TIEs than Rebel fighters in shots.
@@tucmakukla It's considerably easier to add ships with CGI in 2020's than it was back in 1976. I mean, the moment CGI became a thing and Lucas did the prequels you immediately had massive armies and fleets. See the Attack of the Clones and the battle above Corustant.
The original trilogy did the best it could with the technology it had. Nay, it actually contributed for the progression of it. TLJ and Disney did the bare minimum FOR THAT SUBJECT of ship quantity (mind, I'm not dishing out on effects of the movie and series, Mandalorian uses a new technology for settings and TLJ is beautifully shop even though I disliked the movie)
Would have made a lot more sense, it's what I thought he was going to do 1st time watching
For some reason it makes it feel so much better. I never realized how much cringe I was dealing with.
Its so simple a Gungan could have thought of it! LOVE this change for sure - makes PERFECT sense!
Grand Inquisitor: “My Lord, we must continue our pursuit of the insurgents.” Vader: “That’s a perfectly valid point but because you said it and I hate you we’re doing the opposite.” Honestly, I think Vader didn’t really care about the other people on that ship … didn’t see them as a threat. And letting them go would make the Grand Inquisitor look bad.
me when disneytards try to defend the horrible writing
Exactly. I think Vader simply didn't care about the ship, all he wanted was kenobi, maybe he even sensed Leia on the ship so didn't want to destroy it. Or I could just be talking out my a**
@@vxsr33 You're talking out of your ass. Throughout the entire canon, Vader did not even have an inkling that Leia was his daughter until ROTJ, which was the last installment. He only cared about Luke and only Luke because Out of Universe writing, he's the protagonist.
@@ashrunzeda4099 ok Mr expert thankyou for enlightening me
@@vxsr33 you're welcome
Exactly what Thrawn would do. Makes sooo much sense
Thrawn wouldnt even hunt Ben there as he knows Ben would come back if they keep attacking and following the rebels :D
Exactly what any commander with two brain cells would do
It's beautiful! It gives me goosebumps! Makes me nostalgic for the feeling of watching the original films.
LOL that escape pod is like 1/3 the length of the ship.
It looks more like an auxiliary shuttle for moving passengers between ships than an escape pod.
I would've sent the tie fighters but... the pilots were having lunch and believe me, YOU DO NOT WANT TO INTERRUPT THEM!
yeah plus they gotta wait like 2 hours after having lunch or they’ll puke in their helmets
Was it space taco Tuesday?
@@84bucco Kaminoan tuna thursday actually, good stuff.
@@lemonynora Yeah... i can tell you from experience that's not fun at all.
Better than sushi from Mon Cala?
Yeah, did he forget he has a bunch of tie fighters he could send? The logic is pretty thin lol
That’s assumes that a squadron of TIE fighters would be able to penetrate the shield before the ship can escape through hyperspace, which is unlikely considering that the Star Destroyer was unable to do it despite pursuing them for a considerable amount of time.
Once the refugees escape, the TIE fighters are left stranded in the middle of nowhere because they have no hyperdrive.
@@nolanjoseph1553 they never seemed to mind tossing ties into a wood chipper before. Jusy saying, seems odd they didn't lauch them during the chase. Just didn't track right but that's just me.
@@theuneducatedman5375 Yeah, maybe during the chase he could’ve sent them, but that’s just always how Star Wars has been. He didn’t send TIE fighters after the Tantive IV either, despite it being a considerably more powerful ship in an almost identical situation.
@@nolanjoseph1553 true, but they where right in top of that one and managed to disable the shields. Like I said, not a big deal. Just a small detail I feel could have been fixed. Plus how dope would it have been to see Vader go after obi Wan in his own ship!?!
As a Darth Vader I can confirm this edit is consistent with my decision-making process
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
Yes that scene also bugged me. I guess the writers were trying to convey that Obi Wan can blind Vader decision making when he becomes obsessed with catching him.
Exactly 💯 thank you!
This is the most logical answer IMO. Vader lost the finale confrontation because he can't see things clearly. Even in ANH, his only goal is to kill kenobi, everything else is irrelevant to him.
This actually makes a lot more sense haha
It’s almost like Vader making an unreasonable decision was the entire point
That makes so much scenes.👍🏻
would have been 10 thousand times better
That’s what I thought haha why didn’t he just follow Kenobi in his ship? If he had it right there
Especially since that ship can go to hyperspace lol no reason to not use it
I need more fixed scenes please 😂👌
Vader, eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
"Keep following the target. I will take Kenobi myself."
"Better."
Hire this man already
My problem with this scene is him saying, "Prepare my ship."
The whole Star Destroyer IS his ship.
He should have said, "Prepare my Shuttle..."
logically he shouldn't ask for anything to be prepared, why would it NOT be prepared in the first place, and what even in preparing it? does it need to be refueled? Regardless, these are all things that should be done prior to combat.
“I’ll deal with this Jedi myself” -General Grievous and Darth Vader.
Thank you! I was angrily shouting at the screen when I first watched this scene.
haha, well done!
But there was another thing that bothered me in that scene, and that can't really be fixed. Why would the Grand Inquisitor. You know, the main honcho when it comes to cleansing the galaxy of the rest of the Jedi vermin. Why would he prefer to continue to chase the insurgents?
The writing in this show. Not the best.
…That is an excellent point.
For the GI Kenobi is just "one lone Jedi", catching The Path that helps smuggle dozens if not more Jedi across the galaxy is a bigger fish to fry. Makes sense for him to try to confince Vader to folow them instead of Kenobi, with which Vader has personal beef.
Because the insurgents are legit helping Jedi escape the Empire. By taking out the insurgence, the remaining Jedi survivors won't have an entire network of Jedi sympathizers help them. The Grand Inquisitor is very logical and is awarw the long terms benefits of choosing to focus on a sympathetic Jedi loyalist group over getting one Jedi.
@@spikul Exactly, it makes complete sense and matches GI's character
Why wouldn't he? I mean what would happen with the Inquisitors when all jedi were slain.
Stupid question:
When the shots explode near the ship, is that just a missed shot or does the shot hit the ships shield or something?
It always looked kinda wonky to me!
I always understood it as the laser exploding like a IRL flak round lol
@@SininenOtus But there is no oxygen for an explosion to happen, right!? unless the shield were to let out oxygen everytime it's hit, but why would there be oxygen inside the shield? is there?
That’s the shot colliding with the shield
@@MrMario501 I thought so too, but I still thought that's a REALLY well shielded ship
@@funguy873 It is, yeah. It should have been destroyed in a matter of seconds.
Vader wouldn’t take an imperial shuttle, he would take his advance TIE fighter that he outfitted himself in his personal time
That was brought up in another comment here. That TIE wasn't constructed yet, as backed up by other material including Rebels and Force Unleashed.
gonna get that 'WWTD' tattoo
Honestly Vader sending an entire Star Destroyer after Obi-Wan makes sense as a way to box him in and make sure he can't run. Vader doesn't care about the path, he cares about killing Obi-Wan. Is it smart? No. But it's perfectly in character for Vader to go overkill for his own need for revenge. But when Obi-Wan leaves the Star Destroyer just kinda vanished. That's the real plot hole.
Vader also personally killed a hallway of Rebel soldiers in an attempt to stop the Death Star plans from getting away, they didn't need to make him only focused on Obi Wan and not care about the Rebels getting away, it's stupid writing to make him have to choose, do TIE fighters not exist like wtf
@@webbedshadow2601 - Tie fighters don't have hyper drive. Obiwan would just jump to hyperdrive to get away from them.
@@-007-2 but didn't happen either way. Even when tie fighter got sent to Obi Wan, he wouldn't have used the hypdrive.
A planet is a big thing, if you leave from the other side, surprise, SSDs cannot teleport.
@@webbedshadow2601 Rebels aren't really a thing as of now, just some small group of rejects that Vader doesn't really care about, and therefore is blided by revenge and ego.
I just love how people complain about him not doing this when literally vaders one fatal flaw always been the fact of him being very impulsive even as Anakin
The mantra for every commander and bumper sticker on every Star Destroyer "What Would Thrawn Do?"
It's incredible how bad that shuttle deploy at the beginning looks.
It’s dodging the turbo lasers by moving side to side. Cease all fire and then shoot all batteries at once.
Honestly, my “suspension of disbelief” for the sake of enjoying star wars has pretty much gone entirely dry. After watching a bunch of storm troopers get knocked out from being bonked on the freaking HELMET (which exists almost entirely for that explicit purpose) for the billionth time, I just feel like my intelligence as a viewer and one who enjoys a good story is insulted on a regular basis. It’s clear neither Disney or Lucasfilm have any respect for intelligent storytelling.
"The empire is stupid!" was established in "A New Hope", when they did not destroy the escape pod together with r2 and the plans. That would have been the end of the saga. After 10 minutes.
Empire had flaws in the OT, but they were competent for the most part.
And there's a little difference of expectations between 1977 and 2022, fifty years of saga later.
Don't justify the writing mediocrity.
Really good voice over almost like he’s got the voice mod too far down his throat 😂
The scrapship that can tank a imperial crusader
“Did you really think I would have an entire Star destroyer chase that guy.”
Yeah, this dialogue needs some work
Good idea nonetheless
The entire point of the flashbacks and Vader’s previous actions was to show how Anakin/Vader was so arrogant and hyper-fixed on beating Kenobi that nothing else mattered. The entire reason Kenobi chose to separate from the group was because he knew that Vader would pursue. The writers didn’t overlook this, the Grand Inquisitor literally questioned Vader’s actions as he was doing it.
Absolutely, was thinking the same!!
"Prepare my TIE fighter. It's time for some pod racing"
but the whole point is to show that Vader being emotional and unreasonable is why he would always lose to Kenobi. I thought that was very clear.
This was a low moment even for him. Even if he was being super irrational and emotional he’s not stupid enough to forget that he has hundreds of TIE fighters on board that could continue the pursuit while he goes after kenobi
It was, people are pretending that the writers missed something despite the fact that the grand inquisitor literally questioned Vader on his actions in the very same scene. They established multiple times that Vader was willing to sacrifice anything to catch Kenobi, and that his hyper-fixation on Kenobi is the entire reason that Kenobi chose to separate from the refugees in the first place.
it still makes no sense of how a STAR DESTROYER was UNABLE to destroy a SMALL SHIP. this proves how lazy the writers are. if you like this show, you’re most likely woke and pathetic.
they did track them though. The Emperor brings it up. Also, Leia getting back safe despite being tracked makes sense because Leia is the daughter of a “member” of the Empire, and was just bait in Vader’s eyes. Now that he faced Kenobi, there is no reason to mess with her getting back home, as Vader has no justification for further pursuit or harm of ANY kind to her. He does, however, have one more previous experience (that’s still Canon) to cause reason to doubt her, which comes up in A New Hope. It’s not a hole.
This show DOES have problems with continuity and logic in the writing at times, but I did not think this was an example of that. It was just an example of telling but not showing.
Leia isn't the only person of interest on that ship though. It's the main crew of the Jedi smuggling ring. The Inquisitors have good motive to shut that down.
@@-007-2 they tracked them and did shut it down
i'm willing to accept that his hate blinded him, gave him tunnel-vision. this is the most angry we've seen him post-rots
This is exactly what I was thinking
Most of yall are kind of missing the point. Vader diverting the entire star destroyer to go after obi wan is very in character. This scene is supposed to allude to one that happened during the battle of Geonosis during AotC. Padme falls out of the ship and Anikan orders the entire gunship to go back and save her. Obi Wan negates his order and tells him to stop being an idiot, capturing Dooku is more important
Point is, when vader/anikan gets emotional he stops thinking rationally. Without the guidance of obi wan he makes the stupid decision
The grand inquisitor even sees that vader is being stupid but bites his tongue
It fits vaders character that hed divert an entire star destroyer to go after obi wan, even if there were other options had he stopped and thought about it
Okay Disney NPC
No, Vader has evolved past his hot-headed stage. If you look at the OT, he never lets his emotions get the best of him, even when facing Luke or Obi Wan.
When he's fighting Obi Wan, he fights super carefully and searches for the weak spot, instead of attacking moved by rage. He strikes a powerful blow only when he's sure he will kill Obi Wan.
In the first fight against Luke, he manipulates him and uses fear to his advantage. He is never controlled by the fact he's Luke's father, and even uses it to his advantage.
In his final fight against Luke, even if he's conflicted, he still never lets his emotions to distract him from his objective, which is turning Luke.
The whole point of Vader was to showcase how different he was from Anakin in every way, including his approach to emotional situations. The real Vader would have chased Obi Wan by himself while sending the Star Destroyer after the rebels.
@@fm_0523 Finally someone who gets it
Excellently done.
Lol Vadar still gets absolutely wrecked on that planet
The plot armor runs deep with this one
"Send the little ships after the insurgents, we need that fucking Star Destroyer so I have the High Ground."
Never in a million years will I want to hear Vader say "That guy" jeez
I like how this scene shows vaders aniken side
Arrogent and angry still blames kanobi for padimay
"Engage tractor beam and launch all 70 TIEs!"
"And while you're at it, deploy some of the TIE fighters, we have dozens in our hanger!" (The full compliment beinf 72).
LOL when Vader says "...chase that guy."
Vader : I will deal with this jedi myself
Me : Your move
Loved this😍
So much better. then it also wouldn't be stupid that the Star Destroyer suddenly dissappear when Kenobi flies off again after his fight with Vader
This is some Deadpool 4th wall breaking right here
Or, y'know... employ the complement of 72 Tie craft that are standard for a Star Destroyer?
0:32 Grand Inquisitor was like "Damn , that's a general right there."