This is the second Colin Stokes video I've watched and he really has a great way of making powerful points without making you feel you've been hit on the head with an axe.Which makes a much more lasting impression. I recommend to everyone to check out him out.
Watching his videos make me feel like I've been slapped in the face with a feather duster. If you want good film and TV discussion and analysis, listen to Max Gilardi, not this moron.
@Carlos Almonacid - A piece of constructive criticism: If you want to be taken seriously with your suggestions, and in general, you shouldn't attack people, especially a stranger and without any reasonable cause, in this lowly fashion (re your insulting language). Would you have written "Check out xyz, he's a better speaker and more knowledgeable on the topic in my eyes", I would possibly have done that, but the way you're talking and expressing your opinion makes me perceive you as a person whose recommendations can't be worth considering. Not that it would be of any relevance to you in this particular case, but assuming that this post is representative for your overall attitude and behavior, it would certainly be of help to you in many other contexts, incl relevant ones, to change it.
The title's a little misleading. The issue is not so much with the Hero's Journey or Mythic Structure itself as with Hollywood interpretation and use of the structure.
Respectfully, I think Mr. Stokes is misunderstanding Campbell's Hero's Journey. The mythic journey is a metaphor for finding solutions outside our normal, everyday life. It's about transformation, transcendence, and purgation. And he -is- within the Hero circle - he's the Helper, which is pretty darn important.
It's a rhetorical thing. He's being self-ironic - he speaks about having taken the hero's journey a bit too literally as a young man. In the end he states, "maybe this was Joseph Campbell's real message".
only at the end does he seem to get Joseph Campbell at all. Campbell was an expert on many cultures around the world and the last thing he was , was narrow minded ,Like Alan Watts he knew " you are it" pantheism god is alive in us all
The Hero's Journey is a metaphorical one in which we are both protagonist, AND antagonist. No one is excluded from their own interior tale, no matter how great their obstacles. It's a way of looking at the construct of our lives in poetic terms. If we feel a film, or a book, or a piece of art doesn't represent us well enough to inspire, then it is up to us to create a language and representation that does. That's why the same story is reconfigured so many times. Campbell studied comparative mythology-meaning, he compared the myths of many cultures-not just our own-and found similarities. To understand The Hero's Journey as something narcissistic, is to miss the point entirely; because, according to Campbell, the hero must give himself over to something greater than himself (In this speakers case, perhaps it's fatherhood; though it may be something else for someone else.) Then, at the end of the journey the hero returns to the world (perhaps to give Ted talks), as a slightly more conscious human. Simply put, The Hero's Journey is just the framework from which we may gain insight into own lives.
I agree, I think this guy totally missed the point. Campbell's work is culturally universal. The crisis point is a metaphor for overcoming the narcissism of the ego. (Watch the Bill Moyers interview)It is represented in all cultures in different forms. Many times it's overcoming the sins of the forefathers. Luke has to overcome the "dark side" of his father. Old Testament, New Testament themes one completes the other. Campbell talks about how we do this as a culture and we amend our selfs from collective ego states of our forefathers to a higher consciousness in our present and hopefully setting the stage for a greater consciousness for our children. That's about as cultural as it gets...I get the sense that the speaker himself is on the cusp of his next journey beyond some form of guilt. Why he thinks it's ok to drag Campbell's work through the mire because of holly woods newer trend is really lame. The dude could watch the first scene of Kevin Smith's "Chasing Amy" and maybe he'd get a clue how laughable white and black really is.
While I admit I don't know much about Campbell's works, I also feel I should point out that middle school is a very vulnerable age and what happens early in life effects our later lives. That, combined with the lack of respect and funds for education, the presence of tenure, and the outright disrespect many people (including themselves) give to younger generation as a group can lead to serious misunderstandings at best and things like prejudice, hate, bullying, and death at worse. Although I have to admit some things he pointed out make me feel it was less about the hero's journey itself and more about how society has influenced individuals to feel about themselves. In all the media I've encountered the ONLY time I found changing diapers as an important aspect of character development, and not just mentioned in passing, where an infant to toddler was not the main character was in Tamora Pierce's fourth book of Song of the Lioness. It's not often a Lady Knight gets a baby thrust at her I guess! Books like that are rare. And aside from moments of humor in either Baby Geniuses... or Rugrats... you really don't see it at all and definitely not in a way that doesn't relate to making fun of the situation. I agree he missed the point of the Hero's Journey. (From what I know of the hero's journey it's very applicable to almost any situation and doesn't follow a direct timeline of events.) He pointed it out himself at the end. He also pointed out his own flaws and many other reasons aside from Campbell that he felt contributed. Whether we like it or not, being white, male, straight, and able-bodied is much more heavily represented in the media and does give an higher chance of personal success from birth. Success can be defined in many ways. I don't meet all of the categories I listed but I also meet more than others. I see the differences in what I go through and what those is all those categories go through. I also see the differences in myself and those who meet none of the categories. To be honest, it felt like he used the Hero's Journey to give him a chance to relate it to those topics without upsetting too many people over touching the still somewhat taboo topics such as ongoing prejudice. All in all I appreciated it.
Or, after reading about it a bit, I find out it does follow a distinct timeline of events and that the only reason I thought otherwise was because too many of my friends (mostly of the same categories he's in though my 17 year old sister too, not that I think she's the best example) rave about it and apply it to everything and not only myths. Also it's kinda sexist... and there are too many cases of other people replicating his works but attempting to alter them to fit modern media. I can easily understand how the guy got confused and I outright admire him for not being the kind of guy that actually called me stupid for disagreeing with his "fact" that every story followed the same pattern.
These words got me (I've also seen the previous video) because I've been on the same journey, now with kids (daughter and younger son). I can notice I was starting to feel a little annoyed to see the raise of female protagonists on kid's movies, but now, this gives me another perspective, which I'll think about. Thanks!
It is interesting to read comments about these subjects. People type anonymously what they fear to say out loud. You may look at my avatar and say I am just as guilty, so I will admit that I am Black Woman living this world. It would be great to live in a racial and gender bias free world. Unfortunately this is not the world we live in. I try to be bias free but I find myself guilty of that offense on occasion just like many other people. However the first part of fixing a problem is realizing that there is a problem. These eleven+ minutes is just an acknowledgement of the issues for generations.
Not every hero's journey has to be epic... the world is forged through the "small" but equally important stories. The epic ones are just the ones that are more vocal, and boisterous, but they are no more important than that of being a parent. For those who don't feel the call to be a parent, then your hero's journey is to be the best person you can be and make the world around you a better place. Upon doing this, you are a part of the greater story. The story of the human race.
The book, "The Hero Within" by Carol Pearson does a better job of humanizing the Hero's Journey, in my opinion. Campbell's work is pretty dense, more academic in many ways. In her transformation flow, there is a archetype called The Caretaker, the phase of the journey where the Hero learns to care more for others than he/she cares for him/herself. This is right in the middle of her description of the journey and thus is pivotal. If you don't care for anyone more than yourself, why would you risk your life to transform? What Stokes is describing here is that phase
as a non-White man, thank you. i've thrown out my TV years ago. mainly because of State Dept propaganda, but this issue was prevalent during my teens but was unable to express it.
I love this guy's look and attitude to individual lives! I think he's right about everything, one thing I would like to see is the stats of how many black actors there are and how many of those apply to play those big budget films? There is a big difference in culture and that doesn't excuse the facts of what Colin has said for 1 second because I think that difference in culture has come from the cause and it's one big circle. And that mustn't be forgotten. If anything it must be developed to create a change.
Ultimately, blacks are happy to see a movie starring Tom Hanks or Merril Streep because they want to see that person act, not because of the color of their skin. That attitude will put blacks ahead of whites in the coming years. Blacks should just choose the movies that interest them the most. And black actors should emulate the best actors alive so that in the future they can be the center of attention.
how about african americans? would you like Caucasians to be called (assuming you are caucasian) whites, racist pricks, people who shoot up schools, incest makers? don't be so ignorant man, c'mon.
The idea he seems to advance is that the hero's journey is a male, white, etc. centric structure that enables sinners to redeem themselves in their own imaginations. Campbell's research and material had such a global reach that I find it hard to buy this: the myths he draws on to demonstrate his messages derive from africa, native america, and india as much if not more than they derive from western societies, let alone Hollywood. If he referred to modern american cinema to demonstrate the relevance of his theory, and all the characters are white male, I think the fault lies with American film makers, and American society, more than Campbell. The truly condescending point made in this video is that a black movie goer can't see Luke Skywalker and identify or at least be enraptured by what he sees. He assumes that if you're a minority, you will feel antagonized by Star Wars. Perhaps there are intellectually mature women and racial minorities who can go to the movies and see beyond false distinctions, and succeed where this fellow has failed.
He provided the point that only white males are more likely to exit a movie theatre with increased self esteem. Then he linked that to % white protagonist and % minority viewership. I think is referring to the affects on the greater whole while you are focusing on the few. Quite frankly it is your statement that I find condescending that you associate identifying with a white male protagonist with maturity and intelligence. Perhaps it is actually you who has failed to see the real point.
Robert Bowis I didn't associate identifying with a white male protagonist with maturity and intelligence, I associate the ability to identify with Campbell's hero regardless of their gender, race, class, etc. as maturity and intelligence. Not caring what race the Buddha or Luke Skywalker belonged to is the mark of a serious reader/viewer.
I feel like this guy tried to cover too much ground in his talk and inadvertently trampled all over Campbell in the process. Campbell was not trying to convince people that they are the all-important hero, rather, that we all are taking the hero's journey, some more successfully than others, and that we should try to be in tune with our own. The race issues are more tied with hollywood or mainstream media. The templates Campbell focused on, are extremely flexible, and according to him, rooted in any form of artistic expression. Good talk, just seemed like maybe he needed more time to tie his ideas together into a more cohesive point.
If you've had children, unfortunately the hero's journey is denied you until next lifetime. Which is why the Hobbits can guffaw with the alpha hobbit so complacently. That spark you saw in each other's eyes when you fell in love, you gave to your children. That spark is the seed of the hero's journey. It is so perilous a journey that most refuse, and follow a perception of their parents' journey instead. What happens when we stop being protagonists? You stop being an individual. He's just trying to salve your guilt that you gave up your individuality for homogeneity.
All the movies aside!!! The Bible is a prime example ! Why is it though no one knows who the protagonist is and if it was meant for us not to know for the openness for everyone to identify with, and experience being the hero or the chosen people. I think you experience life then you read the bible again and again still trying to, for what ever reason ,trying to figure out who you are in this world again ,instead of knowing who you are and not letting the writings or words of another identify you . I AM
bias and discriminating is a part of the natural condition of being a person, it keeps you alive better trust your gut when its giving you a strong signal... you will only make the worst mistake "once"
If we are truly equal in this country why can't I look up to Will Smith, or to Jackie Robinson and see myself as the protagonist or a african american boy look up to Mark Wahlberg or Tom Brady and see himself as them. WE ARE ALL EQUAL, therefore anyone can be the protagonist in any story they want. The media lately has been pinning white and black against each other. its petty. To make me think that I'm the antagonist in the story line just because the lead actor are black is a very narrow minded way of looking at it. If this nation truly is equal as we claim to be stop treating us like we're two different species.
Colin Cassidy Because there is really a general difference in what they experience in real life? And the media is showing the side that the powerful can see? It would be a really good world if everyone is treated the same and we can see ourselves in each other all the time.
Your entire argument, your entire concern is because you seem to judge all other people by your admittedly narcissistic standards. If you identify with people or you can't identify with people on the basis of race the issues are your own and no one else's.
It seems this guy is on a crusade to try and find flaws in movies that only he sees, that most people do not care about. For example, i am white, yet i find i relate more to black protagonists because in my life i have often been oppressed and criticized by people for being different. i have found it a rare thing that white protagonists suffer in such a way
Okay. So when you watch an NBA-game as a white kid it must be horrible for you. Watching the sports landscapes give young white kids the feeling that they never achieve something in athletics. We also have to do something about race-parity in Hip Hop... BTW: The Butler and 12 years a slave were awesome. It took me a TEDx talk to figure out that the black guy being the lead should raisde my eyebrown.
That's not a smart argument. Basketball players are chosen because of talents and stats and keep in mind the history of professional basketball STARTED with racism and segregation. So the emphasis on it being predominantly African American is both amazing and a triumph of change, but also based on objective talent. As far as your feelings regarding rap. Talent and authenticity are huge within the genre. However, despite white rappers who fit the mold of hip hop like Eminem and Mac Miller, you have a growing industry of those who don't like Iggy Azeala and Lil Debbie. Please no reverse-racism arguments in here for future notice. -The Management
No. Your argument is dumb for the reasons I've stated earlier, not invalid. The points you made weren't based in logic and more from what I would assume, reprisal on your end from the feeling of being attacked as a (presumably) white male. You should try not to be so sensitive and some times just let other people have a win once in a while. Whether it be basketball or rap. You can't rule the world ya know? Oh well. Enjoy your day. If a video such as this sparks such an envious base level response, you're probably a sad and failed man. Good day sir.
Seemone Osinnowo I am totally missing the point you are trying to make. Do you have your own "actual" definition of the word racism? I ask you this simple question. Is it possible for any race of people to have racist in it? According to any reliable dictionary, the answer is yes, there are racist people in all races. I am doing my best to understand the point you are trying to make. Do you have a personal definition of what racism is, or do you agree with the dictionary definition? Could you please tell me what you consider the definition of racism to be? If you disagree with the dictionary, then please tell me where you got your definition from?
"Protagonize everyone you meet." "Ask yourself what role you play in their stories" That is incredibly deep. I think I'll add that to my philosophy.
Every one is the hero of their own story.
This is the second Colin Stokes video I've watched and he really has a great way of making powerful points without making you feel you've been hit on the head with an axe.Which makes a much more lasting impression. I recommend to everyone to check out him out.
Watching his videos make me feel like I've been slapped in the face with a feather duster. If you want good film and TV discussion and analysis, listen to Max Gilardi, not this moron.
@Carlos Almonacid - A piece of constructive criticism: If you want to be taken seriously with your suggestions, and in general, you shouldn't attack people, especially a stranger and without any reasonable cause, in this lowly fashion (re your insulting language).
Would you have written "Check out xyz, he's a better speaker and more knowledgeable on the topic in my eyes", I would possibly have done that, but the way you're talking and expressing your opinion makes me perceive you as a person whose recommendations can't be worth considering.
Not that it would be of any relevance to you in this particular case, but assuming that this post is representative for your overall attitude and behavior, it would certainly be of help to you in many other contexts, incl relevant ones, to change it.
"Every relationship is a call to a new adventure." Love it. Thanks for trying to heal us.
But the diversities of life (good and bad) is what makes life so interesting.
Im close to tears im thankful to hear a whiteman say this I thought they were all too far gone.
I love Colin Stokes's lectures!! :) he brings up very good points that are often passed up...
joseph Campbell says the conclusion of hero's journey is when the hero sacrifices himself for something greater than or beyond their own self.
The title's a little misleading. The issue is not so much with the Hero's Journey or Mythic Structure itself as with Hollywood interpretation and use of the structure.
Respectfully, I think Mr. Stokes is misunderstanding Campbell's Hero's Journey. The mythic journey is a metaphor for finding solutions outside our normal, everyday life. It's about transformation, transcendence, and purgation. And he -is- within the Hero circle - he's the Helper, which is pretty darn important.
It's a rhetorical thing. He's being self-ironic - he speaks about having taken the hero's journey a bit too literally as a young man. In the end he states, "maybe this was Joseph Campbell's real message".
only at the end does he seem to get Joseph Campbell at all. Campbell was an expert on many cultures around the world and the last thing he was , was narrow minded ,Like Alan Watts he knew " you are it" pantheism god is alive in us all
The Hero's Journey is a metaphorical one in which we are both protagonist, AND antagonist. No one is excluded from their own interior tale, no matter how great their obstacles. It's a way of looking at the construct of our lives in poetic terms. If we feel a film, or a book, or a piece of art doesn't represent us well enough to inspire, then it is up to us to create a language and representation that does. That's why the same story is reconfigured so many times. Campbell studied comparative mythology-meaning, he compared the myths of many cultures-not just our own-and found similarities. To understand The Hero's Journey as something narcissistic, is to miss the point entirely; because, according to Campbell, the hero must give himself over to something greater than himself (In this speakers case, perhaps it's fatherhood; though it may be something else for someone else.) Then, at the end of the journey the hero returns to the world (perhaps to give Ted talks), as a slightly more conscious human. Simply put, The Hero's Journey is just the framework from which we may gain insight into own lives.
Wonderfully written, friend.
I was going to add to what you've said here, but quickly realized that your comment can stand alone. It needs no support.
Excellent. Thank you.
I agree, I think this guy totally missed the point. Campbell's work is culturally universal. The crisis point is a metaphor for overcoming the narcissism of the ego. (Watch the Bill Moyers interview)It is represented in all cultures in different forms. Many times it's overcoming the sins of the forefathers.
Luke has to overcome the "dark side" of his father. Old Testament, New Testament themes one completes the other. Campbell talks about how we do this as a culture and we amend our selfs from collective ego states of our forefathers to a higher consciousness in our present and hopefully setting the stage for a greater consciousness for our children. That's about as cultural as it gets...I get the sense that the speaker himself is on the cusp of his next journey beyond some form of guilt. Why he thinks it's ok to drag Campbell's work through the mire because of holly woods newer trend is really lame. The dude could watch the first scene of Kevin Smith's "Chasing Amy" and maybe he'd get a clue how laughable white and black really is.
While I admit I don't know much about Campbell's works, I also feel I should point out that middle school is a very vulnerable age and what happens early in life effects our later lives. That, combined with the lack of respect and funds for education, the presence of tenure, and the outright disrespect many people (including themselves) give to younger generation as a group can lead to serious misunderstandings at best and things like prejudice, hate, bullying, and death at worse.
Although I have to admit some things he pointed out make me feel it was less about the hero's journey itself and more about how society has influenced individuals to feel about themselves. In all the media I've encountered the ONLY time I found changing diapers as an important aspect of character development, and not just mentioned in passing, where an infant to toddler was not the main character was in Tamora Pierce's fourth book of Song of the Lioness. It's not often a Lady Knight gets a baby thrust at her I guess! Books like that are rare. And aside from moments of humor in either Baby Geniuses... or Rugrats... you really don't see it at all and definitely not in a way that doesn't relate to making fun of the situation.
I agree he missed the point of the Hero's Journey. (From what I know of the hero's journey it's very applicable to almost any situation and doesn't follow a direct timeline of events.) He pointed it out himself at the end. He also pointed out his own flaws and many other reasons aside from Campbell that he felt contributed. Whether we like it or not, being white, male, straight, and able-bodied is much more heavily represented in the media and does give an higher chance of personal success from birth. Success can be defined in many ways. I don't meet all of the categories I listed but I also meet more than others. I see the differences in what I go through and what those is all those categories go through. I also see the differences in myself and those who meet none of the categories.
To be honest, it felt like he used the Hero's Journey to give him a chance to relate it to those topics without upsetting too many people over touching the still somewhat taboo topics such as ongoing prejudice. All in all I appreciated it.
Or, after reading about it a bit, I find out it does follow a distinct timeline of events and that the only reason I thought otherwise was because too many of my friends (mostly of the same categories he's in though my 17 year old sister too, not that I think she's the best example) rave about it and apply it to everything and not only myths. Also it's kinda sexist... and there are too many cases of other people replicating his works but attempting to alter them to fit modern media. I can easily understand how the guy got confused and I outright admire him for not being the kind of guy that actually called me stupid for disagreeing with his "fact" that every story followed the same pattern.
These words got me (I've also seen the previous video) because I've been on the same journey, now with kids (daughter and younger son). I can notice I was starting to feel a little annoyed to see the raise of female protagonists on kid's movies, but now, this gives me another perspective, which I'll think about. Thanks!
It is interesting to read comments about these subjects. People type anonymously what they fear to say out loud. You may look at my avatar and say I am just as guilty, so I will admit that I am Black Woman living this world. It would be great to live in a racial and gender bias free world. Unfortunately this is not the world we live in. I try to be bias free but I find myself guilty of that offense on occasion just like many other people. However the first part of fixing a problem is realizing that there is a problem. These eleven+ minutes is just an acknowledgement of the issues for generations.
The four movies he references at 5:40 (in order):
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12 Years a Slave
Fruitvale Station
The Butler
Great speech Mr Stokes. If we had more lectures like this one, we might actually begin to make some progress.
Such a great video! One of the best I've seen. Please continue speaking the truth.
Not every hero's journey has to be epic... the world is forged through the "small" but equally important stories. The epic ones are just the ones that are more vocal, and boisterous, but they are no more important than that of being a parent. For those who don't feel the call to be a parent, then your hero's journey is to be the best person you can be and make the world around you a better place. Upon doing this, you are a part of the greater story. The story of the human race.
The book, "The Hero Within" by Carol Pearson does a better job of humanizing the Hero's Journey, in my opinion. Campbell's work is pretty dense, more academic in many ways. In her transformation flow, there is a archetype called The Caretaker, the phase of the journey where the Hero learns to care more for others than he/she cares for him/herself. This is right in the middle of her description of the journey and thus is pivotal. If you don't care for anyone more than yourself, why would you risk your life to transform? What Stokes is describing here is that phase
Hollywood need to cast more Asians
as a non-White man, thank you. i've thrown out my TV years ago. mainly because of State Dept propaganda, but this issue was prevalent during my teens but was unable to express it.
I love this guy's look and attitude to individual lives! I think he's right about everything, one thing I would like to see is the stats of how many black actors there are and how many of those apply to play those big budget films? There is a big difference in culture and that doesn't excuse the facts of what Colin has said for 1 second because I think that difference in culture has come from the cause and it's one big circle. And that mustn't be forgotten. If anything it must be developed to create a change.
Ultimately, blacks are happy to see a movie starring Tom Hanks or Merril Streep because they want to see that person act, not because of the color of their skin. That attitude will put blacks ahead of whites in the coming years. Blacks should just choose the movies that interest them the most. And black actors should emulate the best actors alive so that in the future they can be the center of attention.
can you not say "blacks" it doesn't sound very good and makes you sound not so smart.
how about african americans? would you like Caucasians to be called (assuming you are caucasian) whites, racist pricks, people who shoot up schools, incest makers? don't be so ignorant man, c'mon.
Oh, sorry. I thought you were trolling me. You just didn't know. My bad.
what?
Seriously, it's no big deal. A lot of people make that mistake. Good day to you.
Thank You for the talk
and how about Morgan Freeman, Samuel L Jackson, Eddy Murphy...
+Mad9977 He only Speaks about the list of the 100 best Movies. So they Are not in them, or Are n protagonists
Companion92 the title is "Why is Hollywood so white" and not the best movies... just sayin'
@@Mad9977why did white Americans make everything about race
The idea he seems to advance is that the hero's journey is a male, white, etc. centric structure that enables sinners to redeem themselves in their own imaginations. Campbell's research and material had such a global reach that I find it hard to buy this: the myths he draws on to demonstrate his messages derive from africa, native america, and india as much if not more than they derive from western societies, let alone Hollywood. If he referred to modern american cinema to demonstrate the relevance of his theory, and all the characters are white male, I think the fault lies with American film makers, and American society, more than Campbell. The truly condescending point made in this video is that a black movie goer can't see Luke Skywalker and identify or at least be enraptured by what he sees. He assumes that if you're a minority, you will feel antagonized by Star Wars. Perhaps there are intellectually mature women and racial minorities who can go to the movies and see beyond false distinctions, and succeed where this fellow has failed.
There will come a time, man. The universe provides. -And soon hopefully.-
He provided the point that only white males are more likely to exit a movie theatre with increased self esteem. Then he linked that to % white protagonist and % minority viewership. I think is referring to the affects on the greater whole while you are focusing on the few. Quite frankly it is your statement that I find condescending that you associate identifying with a white male protagonist with maturity and intelligence. Perhaps it is actually you who has failed to see the real point.
Robert Bowis I didn't associate identifying with a white male protagonist with maturity and intelligence, I associate the ability to identify with Campbell's hero regardless of their gender, race, class, etc. as maturity and intelligence. Not caring what race the Buddha or Luke Skywalker belonged to is the mark of a serious reader/viewer.
Surprised he misinterpreted Campbell this much.
I feel like this guy tried to cover too much ground in his talk and inadvertently trampled all over Campbell in the process. Campbell was not trying to convince people that they are the all-important hero, rather, that we all are taking the hero's journey, some more successfully than others, and that we should try to be in tune with our own. The race issues are more tied with hollywood or mainstream media. The templates Campbell focused on, are extremely flexible, and according to him, rooted in any form of artistic expression. Good talk, just seemed like maybe he needed more time to tie his ideas together into a more cohesive point.
Wow your amazing plz do more
Wow. That was beautiful.
This is why I create a black female wood elf in videogames.
and there I thought I was the only one hahaha xx
Best Ted talk.
This guy is great
Why is Bollywood full of Hindis? Is it due to racism or to intolerance of non-Hindis?
If you've had children, unfortunately the hero's journey is denied you until next lifetime. Which is why the Hobbits can guffaw with the alpha hobbit so complacently. That spark you saw in each other's eyes when you fell in love, you gave to your children. That spark is the seed of the hero's journey. It is so perilous a journey that most refuse, and follow a perception of their parents' journey instead. What happens when we stop being protagonists? You stop being an individual. He's just trying to salve your guilt that you gave up your individuality for homogeneity.
Next can we ask why is Bollywood so Indian?
WAAAAA!
No one owes anyone "non-bias", only politeness in public.
Why is Bollywood so Indian
All the movies aside!!! The Bible is a prime example ! Why is it though no one knows who the protagonist is and if it was meant for us not to know for the openness for everyone to identify with, and experience being the hero or the chosen people. I think you experience life then you read the bible again and again still trying to, for what ever reason ,trying to figure out who you are in this world again ,instead of knowing who you are and not letting the writings or words of another identify you . I AM
bias and discriminating is a part of the natural condition of being a person, it keeps you alive
better trust your gut when its giving you a strong signal... you will only make the worst mistake "once"
I never thought of the Heroes Journey as connected to racism before!
Fabulous.
White previlege
did it occur to yall that were better in acting just like Mexicans is to soccer or blacks and basketball
If we are truly equal in this country why can't I look up to Will Smith, or to Jackie Robinson and see myself as the protagonist or a african american boy look up to Mark Wahlberg or Tom Brady and see himself as them. WE ARE ALL EQUAL, therefore anyone can be the protagonist in any story they want. The media lately has been pinning white and black against each other. its petty. To make me think that I'm the antagonist in the story line just because the lead actor are black is a very narrow minded way of looking at it. If this nation truly is equal as we claim to be stop treating us like we're two different species.
Colin Cassidy Because there is really a general difference in what they experience in real life? And the media is showing the side that the powerful can see? It would be a really good world if everyone is treated the same and we can see ourselves in each other all the time.
Oh! Mom look! The P.C. guy!
Your entire argument, your entire concern is because you seem to judge all other people by your admittedly narcissistic standards. If you identify with people or you can't identify with people on the basis of race the issues are your own and no one else's.
Sucks always being the antagonist despite all efforts made to do the right thing.
I thought the whole point of movies was to pretend?
Campbell reports on mythology. Nothing more.
It seems this guy is on a crusade to try and find flaws in movies that only he sees, that most people do not care about. For example, i am white, yet i find i relate more to black protagonists because in my life i have often been oppressed and criticized by people for being different. i have found it a rare thing that white protagonists suffer in such a way
Wow
White boy has too much compassion and empathy to be a actual narcissist but I do believe every white man has narcissistic personalities!
^_^ love it.
Okay. So when you watch an NBA-game as a white kid it must be horrible for you. Watching the sports landscapes give young white kids the feeling that they never achieve something in athletics. We also have to do something about race-parity in Hip Hop...
BTW: The Butler and 12 years a slave were awesome. It took me a TEDx talk to figure out that the black guy being the lead should raisde my eyebrown.
That's not a smart argument. Basketball players are chosen because of talents and stats and keep in mind the history of professional basketball STARTED with racism and segregation. So the emphasis on it being predominantly African American is both amazing and a triumph of change, but also based on objective talent.
As far as your feelings regarding rap. Talent and authenticity are huge within the genre. However, despite white rappers who fit the mold of hip hop like Eminem and Mac Miller, you have a growing industry of those who don't like Iggy Azeala and Lil Debbie.
Please no reverse-racism arguments in here for future notice.
-The Management
Cameron Kennerly So basically my argument is invalid because you don't like it. I got you. Have a nice day.
No. Your argument is dumb for the reasons I've stated earlier, not invalid. The points you made weren't based in logic and more from what I would assume, reprisal on your end from the feeling of being attacked as a (presumably) white male. You should try not to be so sensitive and some times just let other people have a win once in a while. Whether it be basketball or rap. You can't rule the world ya know?
Oh well. Enjoy your day. If a video such as this sparks such an envious base level response, you're probably a sad and failed man.
Good day sir.
Larry jones you should check the actual definition of racism
Seemone Osinnowo I am totally missing the point you are trying to make.
Do you have your own "actual" definition of the word racism?
I ask you this simple question. Is it possible for any race of people to have racist in it?
According to any reliable dictionary, the answer is yes, there are racist people in all races.
I am doing my best to understand the point you are trying to make.
Do you have a personal definition of what racism is, or do you agree with the dictionary definition? Could you please tell me what you consider the definition of racism to be?
If you disagree with the dictionary, then please tell me where you got your definition from?
Wow
Who cares
nothing has changed 10 years later really it just a few optics