How to easily Repair your 4runners's rusted Frame yourself
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- How to easily Repair your 4runners's rusted Frame yourself, if you can weld, then you can repair your rusted frame on your 4runnerwith or any kind of truck with ease.
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Welding on top of the rusted metal sure is a professional way of tying the costumer to the shop. 😂
Yeah. I am not a professional, but even I noticed that the rusted material stays right there under it. Ouch.
Then slopping fiberglass over it!😂
i feel bad for the next person to buy this truck
Using rubberized undercoating guarantees a return trip for further repairs.
Yep been there my buddy that's a fabricator just used rustoleum and soaked the frame heavily in oil . I been soaking it every fall for 4 years now not a bit of rust.
@@james-im1sj can I ask how he soaks the frame in oil
@@flubbernugget888888 most likely spray
@@flubbernugget888888 it’s a lanolin based product you spray on, the nice thing is it is self healing. Though it does wear off an needs to be periodically reapplied. Woolwax is an example, you spray it on via normal compressor and big tipped gun or they also have rattle cans.
What cai material you used to fit it what size metal better to fit thad
Love the video, helped me a lot. But dude, you gotta wear a respirator when sanding that fiberglass. That stuff will wreck you
Totally… breathing rust who cares, but fiberglass doesn’t break down, just gets lodged in your lungs and creates havoc, would be in a full respirator sanding that over my head
Ok Karen
i bought a 2003 completly rusted i drove it to guatemala and back now i am thinking of doing something with the rust, the truck runs great!
Bought a 4Runner from auction with a rusted out frame for dirt cheap (didn't know the frame was shot). In my case, the frame is beyond saving. I can push my finger through weak spots all over. But, I purchased a used frame that only had some rust in the same spot this one did. So doing about the same thing here to save that other frame. Sad when you see a frame like this one and go "that's in pretty good shape!"
Just curious, but why not cut the really rusted sections of steel out of the original frame (or at least treat the rust) before welding a steel plate over it? Wouldn't that rust continue to get worse over time, eventually eating through the welds as well?
We used the same thickness metal, and we lost footage showing what we used for rust proofing. We used PPG DP On the inside and outside of the frame, that is some amazing stuff we sprayed metal years ago and threw it in a bucket of water for 30 days and it never even showed any signs of rust starting that is great stuff. It almost puts like a vinyl coating on the metal.
@@AutoRepairTips757 Oh, ok. From the video, it seemed the new sheetmetal was just welded over the rusted section of frame and then coated.
part of it, time and $$...This repair was quick and good, and this will last the life of the vehicle. If this was the frame of a 70' Chevelle SS obviously we wouldn't do it like this
exactly time and money. the customers want repairs like these that will get them to pass next inspection. im rebuilding my brother inlaws tundra right now that a 10mph fender bender cracked the frame in 2 from the rust in these frames. cracked the frame right in front of the front cab mount both sides one worse then other.
@@n1ksf How would the 70 chevelle be different?
Lol looked up how to fix a rusted frame and the car I’m trying to fix is first on the list 😂😂 thanks for the help my dude
Do not do what this guy did. Cut and grind out the rust and apply a rust coating before welding. This is just going to keep rusting
@@jordanturner97 this repair will probably last the life of the car
I have a 2005 4Runner with rust-thru frame issues. I live in Alaska where we do NOT salt roads. The rest of the vehicle is great, no rust. I wish there was a recall. Great video!
Theres currently a class action lawsuit ongoing against Toyota for the 4th gen 4runners. Email Christina Sims at the bell legal group in South Carolina to get more info.
@@JC-ir1yp do you have her email address
@@JC-ir1yp people always complain and want everything for free these days. Toyota already makes some the longest lasting cars, yet people still complain because they're not completely perfect? not to mention rust is something you can easily prevent by coating your underbelly and even bad spots can be repaired at home with just a welder.
Toyota should just have a better steel mix for the frames they rust so bad my next vehicle I’ll go to another brand.
The rust is still there. You have to cut it out to stop rust. Then coat that metal to stop rust more rust.
In all honesty this repair will probably last the life of the car. I know what your saying but if you used an inhibitor like por15 on it it would probably last 20+ years.
your mind is broken. aging and degradation is a natural and unavoidable process. All repairs are just about what works to make something last longer.
Yeah, bit do it right, cut out the affected area, treat the new panel, weld it on treat the new area, done !
Rust is not cancer, it isn't necessary to get rid of it. As long as the new metal is welded to something still solid, it will last a long time, especially if coated/ painted. Definitely long enough to get more service out of a good running vehicle.
this is what happens when you ask a body man to do the job of a fabricator lol
Covering up rusted areas with fiberglass is not good. They did nothing about preventing the rust which is happening on the inside.. I would never allow such work on my vehicle.
exactly, he never got rid of the old rot. and slapped a piece of metal ontop of it. awful work
I just bought a 2004 4Runner it only has one rust spot and it’s at the bottom of the radiator support which I’m addressing soon overall greatest purchase I ever made
my 99 has the same exact problems haha...surprisingly my 91 has a pretty good frame versus the 99...gotta do a lotta repair because they both came from Iowa but I got them at really really good prices
Great Video and repair work. Beware of using rubberized undercoating over BARE metal. Your usage was over fiberglass so it's probably ok.
Its kind of crazy to do all that work, grind down your welds, bondo the frame then spray rubberized undercoating that holds moisture and will rust underneath that rubber undercoating. Definitely feels like a flip kind of vibe
The rubber undercoat can be ok as long as you clean up the rust well first
Wow! You are awesome!!! Thank you sooo much for teaching & for your wisdom!!! God bless you and yours!!!
Thanks 🙏
OUTSTANDING!
I implore you to wear a respirator next time grinding a fiberglass filler so you don't fill up your lungs with fiberglass. I love that you recommend the fiberglass and the aerosol rubber treatment that is really awesome.
My question to you is: why not grind out all the cancer from the frame? Are you not worried about some inside out right with the rust still there?
There was some video that did not turn out that showed the step on how to apply DP, that’s a rust protection coating that stops rust. You can spray this on metal and throw it in the ocean for 30 days and it won’t rust.
Ive done alot of rust repairs, first thing i do is cut out all the existing rust. Then i would clean inside the frame and since its a big hole in it spray some eastwood chassis paint in the hole it has a lomg hose you can spray up in the frame everywhere in boxes frames afer yiu clean it and dry it. Then id make the plate and weld it in then id make another plate to weld down onto the lca mount for more strength then after im done tgat id soray si e more eastwood inside frame and paint the outside with por15 chassis black spray paint. Leaving rust there is really a good way to just keeo everything rusting away on the inside of the frame.
We lost so much footage in making this video. The SD card went bad, we made another video with the exact same kind of truck outlining the correct procedure. This video was posted because I knew the owner of the truck.
Nice video and nice work. I'm an ex army mechanic that subscribed. I reccomend you add your auto shop location with the other references written in the description/tips above so people can come in for repairs. I'd rather restore my truck instead of getting rid of it. Most mechanics/auto body shops just replace new parts only and don't do restoration in the Maryland area.
Thanks for the info, I didn't think of that and thanks for the sub
@@AutoRepairTips757 Yeah, put the name and location of your shop on your you tube account home page and facebook so customers can get repairs. I'm in Maryland with a truck that needs some restoration. I don't have welding skills like you though and would come in for a quote if the drive is not super far away. Awesome work you do.
Got a 2000 4runner sr5, has small hole on the frame on the base of where the passengers shocks are, and then a 12½ inch hole within the inside of the frame under the passengers doors, the rest are solid but covered in coated rust
I have a 95 pickup that is just now got a few holes in the bottom of the frame in one area. I've used a ton of rust converter over the past 5 to 10 years in an attempt to stop the rust but at some point I'm going to have to cut it out of that area. As I've watched a few vids on this subject, it's a good idea to get all the crap that is laying in the frame holding moisture or your just going to rust through even faster.
Thank you. This gave me some ideas for my Ford Escape. It's bad, and I don't have the help to just replace the underbody subframes.
Thought my 3rd gen was in better shape found a couple holes on Sunday
l have a 2004 Tundra that l need to do some rust repair on and thank you for the ideas.
The frame forward of that "patch" is paper thin rusted frame metal. Using fiberglass body filler to help repair a frame is a definitely a unique approach.
Before any repairs are done we we measured the thickness of the metal and right where we welded it was up to factory specs . We lost a lot of footage in the video. the metal was also treated with a PPG product to help rust corrosion on the inside of the frame and the outside, there were some steps that were left out because of loss of footage
Great job, really impressed with the finished product!
Glad you like it!
Came for the tutorial, subscribed for the personality. Love this content!
Thanks
Amazing job i didnt think it would disappear with such a big gap. 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks
Good job .. I wish u were in Chicago... I got a rusty caprice with a nice size whole one the frame right on the back end by the gas tank... hopefully mines turns out like that 1 did
hope it turns out for you
Man i widh i could find someone like you in my town....i cant find anyone that welds or that can patch the few holes i need done
better hope you find someone better than this guy.
Awesome info, no fluff, great video! Thanks!
The rust is still there! You covered it up
No we didn't we lost some footage so you did get to see it all here is a another video thats is not missing any steps th-cam.com/video/W0EdsHzpxvY/w-d-xo.html
That looks great when finished.
Thanks
Nice job. I use wax oyl...it never hardens. Dont forget the top of the frame too...i smear grease up the regularly.
This video helped me a lot.. proud of you skills. To great business
thanks
Where are you located
@@217smoka9 Va.
My 2002 4Runner I bought in NOV 2019 for $2,000 was amazingly clean.
I do. Just bought a 99 with a rotten frame in the rear.
any tips to prevent rust like this on my 98 4 runner? it seems like everyone has a different opinion on whether undercoating with wax/other products prevent rust or can sometimes make it worse
I would clean the frame really good treat with osfo sorry about the spelling lol. Then use DP and proxy primer after that, you can dust a little undercoating on it
got a 2007 toyota tacoma thats extremely rusted out frame wise i forsure got alot of work to do . Also workin out of a gravel drive way haha.
Hi, I just recently got a 3rd gen, it rust on the end frame and can mount. Do most body shops do auto welding or I need to find a specialist. Please advise. Also, great video, nice work on the repair
I’m not sure about most shops, but we do everything here we have a full restoration shop
I have a 3rd gen starting to rust after I moved it to Chicago. Was wondering if the steps of just polishing off the rust if it's superficial and applying that product is how to deal with non structural damage to the frame. Anyway hope to hear back but regardless this repair is nothing short of amazing.
I would definitely need to look at the rust in order to make a decision of what’s best for it. If you’re rust is just a little surface rust and no holes in the frame at all then you should be able to clean it up and apply an epoxy primer, then undercoating
Lol looking to the exact same repair in the exact same location. And was trying to find the thickness of material you used? Can you share that
We measured the thickness of the frame and used the same size
Smart people squirt drain oil in all the holes!
That truck is very clean compared to my Toyota T100
I have a 05 4 runner and had the same issue, rust through frame almost in the same spots, sucks.
i've been looking for months for a mechanic or shop in KC that will do restoration/frame fabrication work. Same problem as another guy who commented - nobody wants to do it and I have a vehicle that I really want to save but it needs some frame sections replaced.
Email some pictures of the car or truck and what you want repaired
Great job
thanks
1992 Chevy K1500 with rusted out frame at rear by leaf spring mount. Gotta do something similar to what your doing.
Good video. Thanks.
Same lol
I do I have a 2005 4Runner rusted out
What type of steel do you guys use for frame repair A36 or which one exactly
You just covered the old rust? Didn't even grind it out or put some rust prevention methods? Isn't that bad? Otherwise, it looks really good, but I'm far from a welder, so I don't really know for sure haha.
Thank You!! Ive been scrolling down the comments from people who think this is a great repair, but the guy admitted they are crummy welds, then just covered them with bondo lol. Not to mention that rust is like the c word i dont like to say or think about. It's going to spread unless cut out.
Looking at one tomorrow. 2005 sr5 awd v6 how much does it cost to get it replaced? Thank you
Depending on how bad it is that repair was about 400.00. They sell frame sections that slide over your bad frame if it’s too bad
@@AutoRepairTips757 Alright. Thank you! Have a great day!
I do have a 2003 Toyota 4 runner and I have a rusty frame
Alternative; buy one way ticket to VEGAS. Find a car around LA without rust. Drive it back home.
I have a couple quarter sized holes I’m tryin to get repaired.
I have a sequoia with similar problem, How much does ti something like this cost to fix?
Between 4.75 and 5.50
I’ve got a 4Runner with a bad rusted frame from living at the beach
Point the 4 runner toward the Junk Yard and hope it makes it that far
nice work.. I leave my stuff ugly. it is my own truck anyway.
A rust eaten frame isn’t just “ugly” it’s weakened and dangerous sometimes 😂 but it is your own truck
A car lot just sold me one with a rusted out frame.
Did you get a good deal on it
Spray transmission fluid with a hand pump down the channels…every couple of months during the winter…and summer….the fluid protects the metal..till it wears off..repete process as often as necessary/..cheap. T. fluid protects rubber seals…easy/ messsy to do…works been doing it 20/ years…
mine just natural coats itself in transfer case fluid.
If you live in the rust belt don't be surprised even OR and WA can lay some salt and rock blends on the road
this is very interesting and indeed an easy solution but i only have one concern, when you weld this new piece on, how do you know that the structural load will now go through that?
do you just continue to let the rusted piece support until it gives out, and since the new welded piece is there, it'll instantly take over?
I’m not handy in this area. What’s a fair estimate to have work like this done on a 2002 Toyota Tacoma?
About 550.00
@@AutoRepairTips757 I had a job done that went like this. Im unsure f he sanded it to make it look nice, does the sanding impact the structure?
Im looking to do this with an 2011 Accord, shes way to good to go yet. Would there be any benefit from removing all signs of corrosion underneath and coating/treating before welding on the plate? Im guessing air can flow through the subframe and continue the corrosion.
Thanks for any input!
Depending on where your rust is if I understand your question correctly yes you should treat the metal before you patch it we actually treated the metal in the video you watched but we lost some of the footage and I couldn’t show it
Couple of things that people will find wrong with some of this but it would pass a inspection it's a cheap repair job to keep it on the road , the thing that got me was you cut out the repair patch from the middle of the sheet.
Lol they had me jammed in, so I cut it out there because that was the best angle for people to see
@@AutoRepairTips757 still a good video but keep up the good work buddy
God bless the American tradesman
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You got any links where buy the spray to put HUD 12
Great video what was the thickness of the plate metal you used for repair
Don’t remember the exact thickness but it was the same thickness as the frame
What grade steel did you use in this patch repair?
how thick was the patch metal 1/8, or 3/16 thanks
it measured 13 gauge but we went with 14 gauge
thanks for the reply
What gauge metal is this? Need to repair mine
I don’t remember, but I always see what gauge thickness the frame is and go with the same thickness
I work in a steel fab shop, I’m not trying to seem better than others but why did you leave the existing rust inside the frame? Wouldn’t it continue to rust away from the inside? Just wondering
some footage was lost, we did trim some metal away and also treated the metal to prevent it from rusting. i made another video with the same kind of truck showing all the steps. th-cam.com/video/W0EdsHzpxvY/w-d-xo.html
Sir you did a great frame repair. But i see no need to cover the repair in bondo? wouldn't it have been better to fluid film the area and leave it exposed.
I have the same amount of rust in my Holden Commodore how much does this job cost I'm tempted to just hide it under fibreglass i was told about $1500.00 to fix like this pls give price??
about 750.00
O see where can buy Thad spray Amazon thing got it look magazine jod bro
ballpark idea on what a repair like this costs? thx
600 to 1000
i dont have a 4runner i have a 96 xj and doing this to mine now.
I have a 05 is bad by the back drivers side
Where are you guys located
Va
Really nice job bro 💯
H8 do you remove the gas tank??
No
How much would you charge for a patch like that? Looks fabulous. Job well done 👍
Usually the price varies depending on the rust one that size right around 375 to 450
@@AutoRepairTips757
And it looks like $1,000,000.
how much do shops usally charge for something like that ?
That job is around 650
Tundra 2004
My question is that given the importance of a strong frame on a truck, is the metal he/you used as strong as the original frame, or stronger??
yes, and the way it was welded in makes it as strong if not stronger than the factory we have been doing frame repairs over 76 years and we have never had a come back...do over
@@AutoRepairTips757 Great...thank you for the reply. I"ve always wondered that. In many cases, especially with cars from the Midwest or up "north", I'll get an opportunity to buy a truck that, aside from some bad rust in spots, has a very good engine/tranny. I always wondered if it was worth purchasing, and getting fixed. This is really useful info.....thank you.
How much do you charge for this service ? I have a FJ Cruiser I just bought and it's rusty! I haven't finished addressing the whole frame yet. But from where I started I found a lot smaller rust spot than the one in your video, just want an idea of how much a shop would cost me, I don't have a welder.
That rust repair job cost about 475 To 550 it all depends on how much rust you have
What size sheet metal did you use? Thickness?
The same thing as the frame was I don’t remember the exact Thickness
@@AutoRepairTips757 from where did you order it?
So why didn't you treat the rusted area or cut it out before welding the new piece on if you don't mind me asking?
We did I had a lot of video that was lost. We use a PPG epoxy primer it’s made to stop rust.
man, my 1994 delica has a similar rust issue, im hoping to get it repaired safely for under 4000
I have a 1966 Impala I’m trying to restore but have a hole by the transmission crossover brace
Where is your shop at? I need this done haha
Va
Thanks for the video, in what condition that I do not need to weld the steel & just use the Everglass to patch it alone?
How thick is the steel for the repair? Is the Everglass ready to use or it needs to be mixed with the hardener? Thanks again.
Anytime you have rust that is created a hole that needs to be welded up, The dyna glass Can be used over it if you need to make it look better I’ve use that product for many years and have never had a problem
I knew I wasn’t an idiot for doing this minus adding the undercoat and fiberglass that’s what I plan to do soon but I had a rust hole developing so a buddy of mine and I took some heavy ass steel, use a piece of cardboard and measured it, then we put it onto the frame and we blended it in somewhat. Believe it or not, some dude scammed me and claimed he undercoated my truck professionally but all he literally did was spray paint it black and my frame ended up having a hole in it 9 months later smh
Nice ! How much would this exact repair cost for a customer ?
this repair was about 550.00
@@AutoRepairTips757 each side?
Whatt sizes metal you used for it good jod 🔥🔥
14 gauge
@@AutoRepairTips757 ok thank s m
I'm not a professional, but why did you cut that patch out of the middle of the steel sheet? And, it's a frame. You made it look nice in the end, but the real problem was not removing the rust-compromised area, thus creating layers of metal.
After I got the camera set up you could not see what I was cutting. So I was quicker to move up and cut from a different spot.
Great I have a rusted out frame 🤦🏾♂️
How much would it cost to bring it to the shop for this?
about 550.00
How can I find someone to do this my shock mounts are rusted
check around and see if any of your local body shops can do it.
What kind of shop does this type of work ?