Pathfinder: WotR - Getting The Most Out Of Animal Companions (Tips)
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- Going over some important things you should consider when using an animal companion in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous!
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As a few people have mentioned, the multiple attacks functioned differently in Kingmaker, in my testing I didn't see them getting the multiple attacks right off the bat. It's possible I'm just running into some sort of issue with it, and if so my bad, but from testing with a few different animals I saw it the way stated in the video.
(This was a bug actually, and was addressed by a patch)
Not all animals have multiple attacks IE the Dog and Wolf as they only have bites. But I can attest the Stag which has a Gore and 2 Hoof attack does do all three at level one. Natural attacks do not work like normal weapon attacks in 1E all natural attacks go off and secondary attacks have a penalty.
Yes I'm aware of how its supposed to work, I tested it with a few different animals with different amounts of attacks, checked the combat log etc, it's possible I just ran into a bug or something, shit happens.
Multiple attack is a full round action. You cant get in all the attacks if you moved.
@@MortismalGaming Yeah, as far as we can tell from some testing, Mastodon is currently bugged and not getting it's secondary slam attack at all (and i haven't noticed it ever properly causing a bleed from the aggressor animal class, but I've only recently been looking for that)
Unrelated, but also worth noting: if you're going to do mounted combat, the game calculates your range from where YOUR model is and not the edge of your animal companion, so if you want to be a mastodon rider, you'd better make sure your weapon has reach, or you'll have to have your mastodon stand directly on top of things in order to be able to hit them (also charge will just break, but charge is breaking on its own anyway).
As usual, animal companions are weighed down a little by being a touch awkward to interact with. The 'popular' ones seem to be working okay, though.
Hey I have a question, can you mount your dragon companion you get from the azeta mythic line? I'd really like to find out before I sink hours into this. and I cannot find an answer anywhere and it's going to take me weeks to find out myself. If you don't know o well but I figured if anyone knew it'd be you
"You should never give your animal companion persuasion" . Dead wrong. My horse with Dreadful Carnage would like to persuade you otherwise.
(and he's VERY persuasive)
*Neighh*
"You make an excellent point, Sir"
I did the same thing with my Wolf and went the full Cornugon smash route with Intimidating Prowess
. Which I might add, is amazing > it fears, trips (naturally) and due to it being an Aggressor also bleeds the enemies which is a lot of added FREE crowd control and debuffs (making enemies flat footed with Shatter Defenses). The rest went into Survivability
I might respec however and pick up more passive teamwork feats since I don't like to micro manage my team feat skills with the Cavalier itself, and when it comes to choke points or forced dismounts I like to be flexible. One thing I hate right now, is how the game presents you mounted combat feats for your mount... such a trap. Unless (idk if this works) want your mount to ride another pet? Gotta test this at some point
Yeah, I agree with being dead wrong here. Take a Velociraptor (she's got a Chr of 14!?!), and then take her down Dreadful Carnage/Cornugon Smash route. She's a very clever girl.
I actually threw trickery onto my leopard animal companion since I'm not running with woljiff or camelia. He's pretty decent at it. Also it's just kinda funny to have a leopard opening chests and doors.
Cartoon cats picking locks with their claw come to mind xD
Clever girl.
Onerun i dipped Wendaug into Nomad not realising Nomads only get a Horse.
Made Horse a Bully... skilled up Horse into Nature Lore.
Having a dedicated Trip and character with high Nature Lore without needing a character... priceless
@@dinovoldo544 which is the name I give to any Raptor I have as a pet.
The one point in Intelligence changed everything for me. Good tip!
Right now i have about 100+hrs in my first walkthrough. If i must guess, i would say 40hrs are in the char creation and in respecc at hilor
One thing to note with regards to multiple attacks: animals that have pounce can use a full attack after a charge which is pretty feasible in turn-based mode.
Mmmmm, now to figure out the best build for a mounted magic focused character....
Super excited for the eventual console launch. Wish I didn't have to wait until then! But glad to learn what I can ahead of time to get prepared.
You are killing it with content. Great job!
Thank the gods...I was just about to make a Mad Dog...I might just restart after this video. Praise be to you and your channel!
Any chance for a general feat guide? I know it's a huge topic but breaking down some universally useful stuff, what not to pick for certain class types (magic users, melee fighters both str and dex, etc.) would be super informative. Consider it! Love the content.
Yeah I think a guide going over all the feat chains (like cleave or intimidate) would help new players more than guides to specific classes.
I guess this video is more of a hoof guide..
Very useful videos the last few weeks thank you. Something that would be interesting is some builds for the companions you meet in the game. Perhaps some multi-class options. its always super interesting to see some of the options people come up with.
Always get Intelligence up to 3. It opens up the feat list way beyond what is initially available. Like others have said as well, having Persuasion can work for several feat builds especially combined with the Strength to Intimidate feat, Intimidating Prowess
I gave Seelah 3 levels in Hunter (divine Hunter). Since the Hunter's AC stacks with the Paladin's one.
Now she rides a black celestial smilodon. Since I use quite often the charge maneuver with her, the pounce special attack of the smilodon is pretty powerful. And, most important of all, riding a freakin' sabre-thooted tiger is WAY cooler than an horse!
That's crazy cool. Does it stack with animal companion levels granted by her paladin class?
@@Phourc yes! It's both cool and powerful!
@@gaurok well shit. Guess I'm respeccing her - I assume she has to get the smilodon first, right?
@@gaurok Huh? Animal only scales with Druid level, not Paladin... right? It says so in the description.
@@Eronaile2 if you take Hunter level first (you just need 3) you can huse that for the mount progression
Suddenly those monsters do not look so terrifying when you are mounting a freaking dino!
i do have a question about this ive been playing through and it seems that the only animal that gets visual armor is the wolf and only if you go order of the paw is this a bug or did they only code one armor for one mount for one subclass?
First things first, thanks for the content, as a family man I'm trying to get most things out the way via your videos that would require me 2 read the character creator for 6 days. I have 3 questions though; any viable druid mixes? In kingmaker I played true world (due to campaign) + smilodon plus some barbarian and fighter I think for cleaves etc. What in that vein would work best here?
2. The staff monk, flurry + mount + gear seems nice, any thoughts?
3. Possible video request: since I don't feel like micromanaging the whole crew as of now, I'm thinking of just letting them do their think (it's a time management issue, im sure I'll break that once I really get into it), but it would be very helpful to hear tips like "just hit X with one level in Y for the Z bonus and you're good.
I just made a halfling with a boar companion (small rder, medium mount) and the mount companion command just doesn't work :/
Edit: Once I lef the initial city it started working. Guess it doesnt' work on "sanctuary" places.
Being that Lann was a Zen Archer with Combat Reflexes for whatever reason, I chose to delve after 3-4 into Sacred Huntsmaster to utilize a mount/pet and grab Snap Shot so he wouldn't technically be required to move, he can simply go into melee as an Opportunity Archer with Teamwork feats :)
Right now I have to cast Reduce Person, very accessible on Lann whenever I want him to mount his Smilodon until he is level 7 when it becomes Large.
Very informative thanks for putting the time in
Thanks!, this one is pretty out of date though (From the beta actually) Here is a recent updated version that accounts for the changes since then: th-cam.com/video/LdNHfaZCpoU/w-d-xo.html
Best build I found was 1 mad dog - Smilodon daredevil (build crane style, combat reflex and improved crit claws), into 16 levels of divine hound(hunter), dex based dual kukris. gets to something like 7-8 attacks on the rider, plus attacks of op any time the rider or mount crits thanks to seize the moment (among others) and 3 shared verdicts. with leading strike and instrument of freedom cast on the mount this is insane. It just shreds things on alpha strike since Smilodons have pounce. Potentially it can chain crits into around 18-20 extra attacks in a single round, which is just nuts. could probably swap mad dog for a lawful class that gives smilodon(beast rider?) and be stronger with 3 Paladin Divine Guardian levels to divine troth the mount for extra tank. That's only for a level 20 build tho. Legend would be something else. Ive had more than a few fights just glitch animations and 20 numbers just appear above something as it explodes.
Are the animal companion and the possible beast shapes the same?
I'm considering making a methamorph which gets the mythic feat "destructive shockwave" as early as possible to deal round about 30 damage even when every attack misses. But I cant find any Information which animals you can shift into.
(unfortunately I have to wait at least a week since the delivery time for new hardware is just nuts at the moment)
1 point in Use Magic Device might be interesting to dump all summon items and utility wands on a companion to free up slots.
just reached level 7 with my beast knight, it is a hell lot of fun to charge in on my triceratops with my gleve in my hands, 90+ dmg on a charge is just devastating
I have a wolf. Trip is OP. You charge in (im using a longsword and shield), you do 50-60 damage right off the bat, then you do 50-60 damage when they try to stand.
Triceratops Beast Rider club represent!
How does the pet-level boosting feat interact with the Legend mythic path?
Does it allow your pet to go over level 20 if you maxed the class that game them?
Nope. Just tested it (yay Inevitable Excess), and your pet is capped at 20 even if you take 40 levels of pet classes.
I had a question regarding the feat Mythical Beast, I read somewhere that choosing this allows you to chose teamwork feats so that you don't actually have to raise INT to 3. Is what I read correct or was that bogus info on reddit?
What about Seelah companion option ? If you give horse +1 to int, and maunted combar feat, how would it work ? it would protect rider or horse ? coz you can put all in mobility + perks (horse character) and be very hard to hit ? ? ? On the other hand heavy armor + shield (rider) makes mobility very weak.....
Great video.
I have a doubt: does pummeling bully works with pounce?
Yikes, looks like i took medium armor feat for my 2nd level bulwark horse! Only later did i realize it will get it on its own at level 7 or something. Is it a wasted feat? Should i respeck as soon as possible? Will medium armor be needed early to mid game? Is there a better feat? My horse is the mount for my cavalier of the Stars BTW.
I made the same mistake. Hopefully I can respec it.
@@rwtilghman you can. As soon as you get access to the pathfinder society you can respec all your levels, even start a new character from scratch.
Do anyone know how prestige classes work with mounted combat; do they still give your animals levels
ok! got it...I think....not confusing, not confusing at all. I'll muddle through...some how. 👍
I'm going to make a velociraptor with maximum use magic device, and get it to use scrolls, and you can't stop me!
Always ended up with a smilo but I’m looking at doing a gnome/handling cavalier now.
Get a Horse until llvl 7 then respec and get a Smilodon, at lvl 7 your Smilodon is large and you are able to mount it.
Too bad you can't have the best mount in this game.
A half orc barbarian. Rage with a halfling on your shoulders is op
@@marvalice3455 Master Blaster comes to mind.
It says that leopard at lvl 4, draws attack dmg from dex instead of str. But I still see it from str and not dex. Do i need weapon finesse since its doing the same thing at lvl 4? Am i missing some?
I would recommend giving your companions 10 perception points to get Improved Blind fighting :)
Awww, they fixed the OP smilodon Multi attack at Level 1 lol
9:46 I approve of the name
Lol I thought about making a joke about naming him that somewhere in there and didn't wind up getting around to it
What is the class with the strongest animal companion? And is there any who can have more than 1 animal companion? The game is so complex
One of the mythic paths gives you a second animal companion if you already have one. Otherwise, it's one animal companion that levels up when you level up in any class that gets one.
As for the strongest class to have an animal companion, that's kind of subjective. It depends on what you want them to do.
IF you pick something that lose multi attack or only have a bite attack just make them focus on Vital Strike, which basically make them have 4 attacks in one, better than most damage upgrade you can give your pet.
Barding mostly suck
Pick a brownfur transmuter buffer.... they can get to like 60+ str and 60-70AC morphed into dragon ... the dragon form keep the trip from say ... lepoard or dog/wolf very very strong.
For my next run I was thinking of going for a Skald, from what I understand it's like a melee bard, but I'd also like to have an animal companion. My idea was of making a Gnome Skald with a Velociraptor companion it could ride into battle. What would the optimal build be for it? I was also thinking to make it an Azata, would it work well?
Azata would be fun
A sohei level and a bulwark horse to ride not only helps Seelah a lot with her lack of mobility in the battlefield, but also makes her even tankier.
If you have levels in 2 classes that give you animal companion, do you get 2 animal companions, do you get 1 but it benefiits from levels of both classes or do you get 1 and it only benefits from levels of the original class?
You get 1 and the levels should stack
I know its late, but trying to figure out what class to go as melee + pet. Any recommendations? I saw hunter as well as inquisitor and wasnt sure! Any recommendations?
I ride into battle on my noble steed as a sohei monk equipped with a mighty bardiche as a slash my enemies into oblivion
You can't ride the centipede companion and I'm still angry about learning this at lvl 7
I’m confused about wether weapon fines is good or not for wolf… my strength is higher then dexterity so I would think it would actually be worse but it keeps recommending it…?
Animals can go down the dreadful carnage line persuasion is definitely a thing you can give it
Their intimidation DC will be way lower than a charisma based character + many demons git immunity to those shits
I need help, i've picked Animal Companion on a few guys and i haven't been able to level them up. 2 dogs and a horse. That i can't throw armor on or nothing. What am i doing wrong. No video i've seen has been able to give me any answers.
Does mounts affect the "Map travel time"?
What is the reach of the companions? If I have a reach weapon, will my mount also be able to reach the target?
Seems that way yeah, I havent had any issues with it
Just a little precision on the multi-attack of animal companions. If it's like in kingmaker, only pets that have only one natural attack at level one (like the dog) will obtain new attacks as their BAB increases. Those that get multiple attacks from the beginning (like the smilodon, leopard...) do not gain additional attacks as they level up. They make all their attacks at full BAB but do not gain more. So the 'multi-attack' ability is useless for these animals.
I tested it with multiple pets at different levels, it doesn't work like that anymore, unless I'm just having a weird issue I suppose. But yes I'm aware that's how it worked in kingmaker
@@MortismalGaming I am playing a Sacred Huntsmaster with a leopard companion now and they are level 2. My leopard has all his attacks (a trip bite and claws). I will see what happens at later levels...
If I use dimension hop from the travel domain while mounted, does that affect my mount too?
Yes. While you are mounted, your mount counts as part of you for Teleport purposes.
armor dex limit works for the attack as well?
I normally go leopard for a buffed pet build or wolf since trip is hilarious. Haven't played in WotR pets yet as I'm still going through a paladin build.
Multi-class one Beast Rider level and you can have whatever pet you like from level three.
damage reduction is nice, but giving up evasion for the free barding feats is PAINFUL. I'd rather just keep the basic archetype and manually pick up the feats.
So, to make one as a tank, strength based damager + bulwark? Will a leapard with bulwark be gimped?
Definitely dont go Bulwark on leopard, he is a great dex tank. Has more AC than Seelah's horse which I chose Bulwark on.
Thanks that was cool
Triceratops is the most unique in my opinion ❤
I am a mad dog barbarian with a boar! thanks alot bro!
If I mount my Bully archetype companion, will I still be able to use trip and bull rush?
Yeah
how does mounted combat work with the turn based mode since while mounted your companion doesnt have a turn
In PF1e while mounted, your mount doesn't get a turn but your mounted character essentially uses your mount's speed to move. So, a 15ft speed halfling cavalier in medium armor riding a 40ft speed wolf wearing no armor is both tanky and maneuverable right at 1st level.
@@havokmusicinc it's also incredibly hilarious
@@havokmusicinc thanks for the reply it makes sense it should work like that but looking at reddit mounted combat its not working the way its supposed to be while in turn based and thats why i couldnt tell if my mount was attacking
Noticed that if you are going mounted first level, then paladin 2nd level, the mount gets levels, even though the paladin get their mount at lvl 5. and only if you chose to bind your divine power to the mount. Might be a bug, its nice though. is there any lance weapons in game now? haven't found any, and don't know if the spears have the same effect as a lance would.
Spears count as lances last I heard, there's no literal lances
@@MortismalGaming I'm playing an order of the paw cavalier and so far when charging with a spear it's not doing double damage, and I noticed the spirited charge feat doesn't call out lances specifically, just says it doubles the damage of melee weapons.
Now there are several reasons this could be, ranging from Owlcat deciding not to make spears count as lances, to it being a specific kind of spear I haven't tried yet (e.g. longspear) to a bug with spears or a bug with order of the paw cavaliers.
I've also noticed that, unlike the TTRPG where cavaliers don't take the AC penalty to Ride skill when mounted, there doesn't seem to be anything that keeps armor from crushing your mobility skill and thus making the mounted combat feat far less effective. Of course, I've yet to see a mounted combat roll in the log, so I'm not sure if the penalty is applying or if the feat is even working.
Loving the game, but with these features not working, I am likely to reroll as a different class.
@@briane75 that's fair, can't say I'd tested it personally, I just remember them saying something about spears replacing the lances since there weren't any
@@MortismalGaming Yep, I remember them saying it as well. I just tested with a longspear, it doesn't double the damage either. Nor can you use a spear or longspear 1h while mounted. My initial guess is they didn't make anything to replace lances, but it could be a bug.
@@briane75 I think its specifically Longspear, but that's half remembered from a comment on Discord so I could very easily be wrong
There is nothing like riding a raptor and slashing your enemies 9 times per turn with a huge dueling sword while having a big azata dragon destroying things alongside with you. Crazy build
Do you know if it's possible to get both an animal companion AND a familiar?
Yeah
Can you change your animal companion? I want to play a cavalier, and dont want to wait 7 levels for the animal to get large and finally be able to mount it.
No, maybe with a Respec I guess i haven't tried it
I need some help: Could anyone help me with a max tank build and equipment for a paladin's horse?
you shouldn't be getting extra attacks based on BaB with natural weapons, unless there is a bug or they decided to change things up. I played a bunch of kingmaker and phase 2 beta for a bit and at least the character screen showed such(and thats how it works in table top). you get 1 attack with every nat attack plus haste will give you another when full attacking. so still only getting the 1 on a standard action. there are some builds that stack multiple sources of bite on characters that confuse the issue
I checked multiple times with multiple pets, they start with one attack and gain more as they get more BaB, I know that's not how it works in Kingmaker though
@@MortismalGaming good to know, now I wonder if this is deliberate design choice, they did rework animal companions quite a bit to make them level like normal characters so who knows what got changed. thank you for your diligence sir
I wish feat search scanned the descriptions as well as the titles. It would become a lot more useful.
There is definitely something going on right now with animal companion attacks. My smilodon started with the 5 attacks it is suppose to have (1 bite, 4 claws) on a full attack and then randomly after a few fights it suddenly got reduced down to only one bite and one claw attack.
I did lots of testing but never found the exact trigger, it seems to have some connection with charge attack as after its use I noticed the attacks get reduced immediately after. This isn't always the case though, even if I never used charge once on any of my characters I still found the bug triggering from something else at some point. Strangest thing is once the bug triggers I have found that reloading to a prior save when the full attacks were still in effect or even restarting from desktop failed to fix the bug. The only workaround I found was reloading to a save just prior to when I leveled up and gained the animal initially (took a level of hunter at level 2 on a party member).
It took me several restarts to even get past the maze while I was testing, and then it was just shear luck that I made it about half way through act 1 before it randomly triggered again. After that I just felt it was too far in to go back so reluctantly retrained.
Anyhoo, I have sent in my bug reports, hope that it gets fixed soon. Other than this I've been loving the game. Don't usually post on videos but just wanted to get the word out since this can put a damper on many classes.
Well at least it wasn't just me then
I found that its when you reload the game in any manner...its fine for me up until that point.
Having the same problem with my Smilodon mount. I am mounted, standing right next to enemy, it should get full attacks every time. But instead it seems to just get Bite 2/3rds of the time, and then does a proper full attack maybe 1/3 of the time. Cannot figure out what is causing the difference, seems random. This is at level 4 using a human cavalier shrunk to medium size with reduce person wand.
@@Atanatari165 as of the latest patch, the natural weapons on the smilodon is fixed...mounted combat is still bugged to hell though so ...you may be in for a wait..currently i think they are focused in on game breaking bugs from act 3 4 and 5.
I've also been confused by how animal multiple attacks work. My raptor seems to get both claw attacks right out of the game, but no bite.
Some creatures don't get additional attacks until level 7; check the stat block or class advancement panes to see
Can you use all Cavalier abilities & Skills on any mount? Was wondering if you could use all the abilities & skills from a Cavalier on any mount. I want to go Azata Mythic Path and use the Dragon as my mount.
It should work yeah
@@MortismalGaming Cool. Thanks.
Can you get the boon companion multiple times? Or is there a mythic version? Asking for a build of gendarme student of war that dosen't want his horse to be useless later in the game
You can only get it once and it only adds +4 to your total animal companion-linked classes.
Means u can multiclass 4 levels outside of non-animal companion classes and still have a max level pet.
@@Drick10 That royally sucks
@@paulmihaisolon8292 There's a mythic feat called Mythic Beast which buffs your companion.
Wondering if you go with the Legend Mythic Path if your Animal Companion can go beyond level 20
I don't think so, maybe if you stacked two classes that get mounts maybe
That was my first idea too after seeing the video for legendary mythic path and now this one. :)
Just finished creating my chevalier player that does have a horse for mount but didn’t get option to customize and name him. After I made my player just jumped me in game. Why is that?
You customize them in game, not in the character creation screen
Does armor have any visual effects on the companion in the final release version?
Was kinda looking forward to riding around on big armored cats.
Seems inconsistent honestly, sometimes yes, sometimes no, not sure if there's a toggle or anything
What classes get an animal companion? Any differencer in those?
That's actually a pretty good point! I got caught out with my Arcane Rider, who supposedly gets an 'animal companion' as a class feature, but I didn't realise it would have to be a horse. I really wanted to ride a smilodon :( I am guessing Sohei and some other riding-focused classes are also restricted to just having a horse, which, while horses are cool in their own way, is actually kind of a letdown since many other companions (smilodon, bear, wolf, etc) are totally ridable once they size up at L7.
You could get a brown fur transmuter arcanist in party who could cast beast shape on your animal companion to make a hors ea smilodon
Note: Boon companion also works if your class doesn’t get a companion until later, like clerics. This keeps them your level (up to 4 different) which is very helpful
I used the ''impossible domain'' to gain the animal domain, turns out, I didn't need boon compaion for it to have max level, so that was a nice surprise
Damn that's a bug hopefully they don't fix lol
@@allanf931 Animal Domain treats you as a Druid for leveling purposes, there's no bug.
Is it normal that the Bloodrager: Bloodrider only as the smilodon as an option ?
Yeah some classes only get a few or even one of the options
My question is, if I put 1 point into cavalier, and go into paladin will my animal companion level up?
Nvm, it is answered in the last part :) . thnx
Charisma is important if you want to make your animal undead (undead mount feat) It replaces con with cha. Only good for raptor and smilodon.
And it helps when trying to attract a mate. Can’t go wrong with a cute dog or a cool cat.
@@chrislemaster75
A skeletal dog might be a bit creepy though.
@@ToveriJuri some find cold firm bones attractive and creepy
I think giant centipede is not medium. I've tried a few times with a halfling to mount it and it won't let me. So I am guessing it needs to get it's size boost and then you can mount it. FWIW my halfings riding a boar or a smilodon is worth the price of the game on its own!
You can't do it in certain places I've heard, that might be your issue
@@MortismalGaming Yeah, there are cinematic or story beat places that won't let you mount or remove you from it. But the centipede can't seem to do it anywhere I've gone by level 3 so far :(
Im a cavelier and thus have a horse mount, could i take second specialization that gives me a 2nd pet?
No you only get 1
@@MortismalGaming ah thanks, a shame would have been nice. ah well there is always next playthrough
are bardings generic, or is it like, this is horse barding and this is bear barding?
can you customize the azata companion too?
A bit, it didn't get the archetype stuff last I messed with it though
It's worth respeccing Soriel and Daeren after you can get them extra domains/mysteries through their mythic perks. They can both get animal companions without having to dip into any other classes, which on its own fixes Daeren's mobility by a lot!
2 years too late but are you able to mount the Monitor lizard? Idc if they're the most optimal or not I just wanna be able to ride a lizard into battle
They only grow to medium size which means your character has to be the small size category for it
@MortismalGaming sweet. Halflings my favorite class anyway. Demons will fear my Komodo of doom.
so can you have an animal companion and aivu? and can you have multiple animal companions if you multi class?
No, Aivu and the skeletal champion are special cases
@@MortismalGaming ok, thanks
Are small characters limited to dogs and leopards? I suppose a small mounted fighter would be more practical in the cramped dungeons.
No, animal companion types are restricted by class not race
@@MortismalGaming i should have been more speciphic, sorry. Are those the only medium mounts that exist?
@@noukan42 i rolled a halfling paw and use a wolf mount. Afaik you can mount any animal as long as its 1 size larger than your character, ie a halfling can mount a dino.
In Kingmaker at least, the best companion was always the smilodon. Hardly any less tanky than the tankiest other companions, had crazy stats and 5 attacks right out of the gate. Now that you can also give it feats, zomg, what a killing machine you will be able to make!
There is something to be said for leopard if you wanted a companion with insane dex (and therefore some decent touch AC), but it does only get 3 attacks compared to Smiley's 5. (A halfling riding a leopard would be super cool, though!)
If you were playing full on combat maneuvers (which I rarely did) I guess wolf would not be too bad, since it trips on bite, so you could go with tandem trip feats and so on, but IMO battles get too big too fast for a trip here and there to be more than just 'kinda nice'.
In Kingmaker, the bear companion had one possible use (other than flavor) and that was to pair it with the Thundering Claw of the Bear God, the most badass weapon in the game (for me, at least) for a slight boost to its badassness (it caused you and your pet to deal extra elemental damage, with the amount increasing further if you or your pet was a bear). I am exploring WotR to see what cool items they have that might have a similar effect.
The Smilodon and Leopard were so OP that I actively avoided them. The Bear thing was pretty cool, though
@@ruileite2634 leopard trip doing a lot of work on higher difficulties, it's true
Smilodon not quite as OP in Wrath because so many enemies have DR.
@@Atanatari165 tbf the "Mythical Beast" mythic ability makes dps animal companions even more worthwhile because it allows for reliable damage in most circumstances
@@Atanatari165 Been finding that there are a lot of ways around that. Magic fang allows him to bite through dr/magic, and align weapon: good (divine spell) will let him bite through almost any demon. A couple of demons require cold iron to get through their DR, though, which is a problem.
All can be solved by taking the Mythic Beast mythic ability, though. Still a pretty powerful companion.
Am I right in thinking at level 5 my paladin can get a mount with divine bond?
Yeah they can use it for a mount
@@MortismalGaming ah cool so boon companion/divine mount paladin build YES!
Unless I missed an option somewhere, your only animal companion option as a paladin is a horse. Which certainly fits the stereotype but it's really goofy to have your horse running around and biting people when you're not mounted.
If you go with the mythic legend, can your animal companion get to level 40?
I haven't tested it, Animal Companions use the level of the class you got it from and usually stack with other classes that give you an animal companion and you still can only put 20 levels in a class, so I'm not 100% but if you only picked classes that gave you an animal companion it might
@@MortismalGaming I'm gonna go primal 20 and the monk one for 20. I'll get back to you if I remember. Haha
need 20 lvl animal with max atacks per turn . pls help
Wait... I CAN GET A DINOSSAUR!? SOLD!
Edit: no ranged animal companions though :(
I didnt pick my animals subs bully etc is it to late now?
Yeah
Okay I did not know that the amulets of the fist would give a bonus to an animal companions natural attacks.
best: panther: 3 attack + trip
trip is very effectiv.
have all your companiona adopt one panther. you win.
hunter, cavalier beast rider, barbarian beast, magus one level enough + feat boon compa.
druid & inquisiteur tactician & ranger more time consuming.
riding not good, emoroid and sore back.
6 + 6 = swarm + trip = all ennemies prone for 2 turn
Beast Rider then Arcane Rider is what you want for Magus.
Can you have the Azata dragon companion and an animal companion at the same time?
I hope the next game expands familiars like this one expanded animal companions. I want my Mauler familiar lol
Yea you can
@@Zubilir Thanks! Also, you wouldn't happen to know if you can use ranged attacks while mounted? It looks like they're making it as close to P&P as possible, but I want to know for sure before I commit to a build
@@davidmaxwell4696 I was able to use a bow while mounted.
@@hundejahre Thanks!
Natural attacks do not require high bab to get all of them. If you have the attacks you can use them from level one so long as you are doing a full attack (on another note, you CAN move and do a full attack, but only a five foot movement). Bab does not come into play for determining the number of natural attacks. Nor does having high bab give you additional attacks. If you have a bite and two claw attacks, that's what you have, whether your bab is +1 or +20 you only get those three attacks. Only certain player classes allow one to use natural weapons for iterative attacks, namely the Shifter, which is not present in this game, only the pen and paper version. This is one of the big differences between natural and manufactured weapon attacks.
Edit: There is, however, a bug in the game right now that can cause your animal companions to lose all but two of their attacks if they have more than that. Not everyone is experiencing it but a lot of players, level two and onwards, are. Keep that in mind, may want to wait for an animal companion fixing patch before trying one of those classes if you have your eye on other classes too.
Its related to loading the game...Ive tested it fairly extensively. You can level up the pet, save the game and if you continue playing, all is well...if you reload, exit and restart the game, or quick reload, bam, you lose your attacks.
Shilds can be used with spears?
Every spear I've found is two-handed
@@MortismalGaming Goodbye my jouster build
@@MortismalGaming I got a shortspear which could be used with a shield, Might be that's the only type of spear you can 1 hand
So what happens if you become an azata and gain aivu while being a class with an animal companion, does she simply replace them?
No you get both
@@MortismalGaming awesome. I know what I'm doing for my second playthrough then. I'm a necromancer all the way for my first one
Retrain your paladin
swap weapon bond for animal companion
bump int to 3
take teamwork feats
Profit
Game: Take a shot when Mort says "Animal Companion"