Defeating console security gets harder every generation. Meanwhile at Nintendo: WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY BROKE IN THROUGH THE JOYCON PORTS?? Oh and don't even get me started on their web browsers :)
@DAudIcI I mean, smart TV vulnerabilities probably wouldn't get anyone's attention but an Android tablet it still an Android device. I wouldn't be happy if I found out there were security issues with my tablet just because of its hardware...
@DAudIcI I wasn't thinking about it in those terms, I was imagining exploits that could be done through software *due* to some kind of hardware vulnerability. Yeah, anything requiring physical access isn't too big of a deal (imo) as long as it's not as simple as "plug in this USB cable and everything is stolen".
I love every MVG video but the mistakes were made ones always interest me the most tbh. One of my favorites was also the Xbox 360 PartnerNet one too even tho that wasn’t a mistakes were made video lol
I never understood homebrew when you have a pc that could do it all so much better. I always looked at homebrew as an excuse for running pirated games.
Sharing Lungs you can do all things in pc but that shit aint fun cuz u know pc can do everything but the console cannot do everything thinking it only makes me excited the fucking posibilities
While it's not that surprising since PS4 is essentially a x86 PC, I still find it fascinating to discover that it's able to run linux, install steam and have access to your steam library from PS4
It's not an x86 PC, it's just an x86 device, but it is not a PC as we know them. Porting Linux to the PS4 was actually a daunting task and required heavy modifications to the Linux kernel (even if it's x86, that's just the only similarity it has with PCs, everything else is completely different). There's a nice video of fail0verflow explaining this in much more detail.
Its not quite the same as a pc... if you watch fail0verflow's breakdown video, they explain how it is different! th-cam.com/video/VpB49dhk2uQ/w-d-xo.html
Check out an old video about PS4 hacking from CCC. PS4 is an x86 device with all usual legacy PC stuff removed. That's why Linux required major modifications to run on the PS4. Interestingly, the chipset is an Marvell Armada ARM SoC running it's own custom OS.
"Sony likes to issue firmware updates long after the hardware's end of life" Definitely true for the PSP and its 2015 6.61 Update haha (which got hacked the next day btw.).
But not by Sony this time. All these exploits were public exploits in the open-source code that Sony used. Of course, the active security research scene around open-source gave Sony the ability to respond before an actual working exploit for their product was made. By the time the working exploit had been made, most of the consoles with the exploitable firmware had been sold to non-techie owners, and most of these owners had upgraded them as prompted, so good luck finding one.
I’d suppose you were trying to be sarcastic since he hasn’t yet reached that amount now, let alone four months ago. In that case, that was pretty lame, not to say obviously disrespectful.
I wish console manufacturers would release the "keys" to the console 5 years or so after, production, and support has officially ended Like, they pushed one final update that turned it into a developer unit.
But then it would be very hard to make consoles backwards compatible with those consoles, since they could put fucked up data on the old console's disk/cart and do stuff with the new console.
@@Brick_Eater_ I guess they could. From a surface level, I can see how this would make sense. But a developer unit is only for developing. When pressing a disc, or manufacturing a cartridge, there is a whole process. So when a console is made backwards compatible, theoretically it could run the program made on the post console death developer unit. But if there's no physical media for it to be drawn from with the new console, then what you have just listed is something that won't really be an issue. Also, almost every console that has had disc based backwards compatibility (at least to my knowledge) has ran the previous gen software disc in a kind of sandbox mode. The Wii ran Gamecube games in a sandbox mode. The Wii U ran Wii games in a sandbox mode. The Xbox 360 runs Xbox games in a sandbox mode. You get the point. The only one I can think of that I'm not sure about it running in sandbox mode was the PS2 for PS1 discs. And I just don't know if it did or not, because I haven't looked into it enough.
@@Brick_Eater_ That's fair. Lol. I've watched that video myself, but I totally forgot about that MSET exploit. That being said though. I feel that would be patched pretty quick. Much like how it was with the 3DS.
And these videos are the reason why MVG is my favorite retro gaming channel. It's so well documented and put together, I really enjoy them a lot. Thanks a lot sir MVG !
I hope there will be more videos about PS4's Linux capability. I imagine as it gets phased out with the release of the PS5 more PS4s will be moded and Linux community around it will have a chance to grow. I like the idea of turning older hardware into useful mini PCs that can still do a decent amount of computing on the cheap for people who cant afford it.
You need people to test security on systems.. EULA licensing should be considered illegal to enforce by most standards of property law anyhow.. so the researchers are testing the security of felony/copyright crossover and are winning
Really love these series of yours MVG. It is easy to understand and interesting. I’ve used lots of custom firmware in the 2000s and these vids of yours help me understand how it works.
This video goes someway to explain why when selling my PS4 on eBay, I was getting questions about firmware versions. As I connected it for online services, I always kept it up to date.
9:55 That means ps4 gpu is capable of vulkan and drivers are in place. Then what about DXVK? Looks like you could launch ANY non-dx12 title on that little box
DXVK works just fine, and compatibility is quite high. I played a bunch of D3D11 games on my PS4 Pro, including Prey 2017 (th-cam.com/video/ITWMnxO0dKE/w-d-xo.html ) and Shadow Warrior 2. The biggest issue is slow CPU and 8GiB of shared RAM. I mostly used 5 GiB as main RAM and 3 GiB for graphics. Even more interesting you can use PSVR with SteamVR on PS4, because it is supported by OpenHMD.
@@gustavgurke9665 That being said the same games that have terrible native ports are original to Windows and also run just fine on there, without all the BS that comes with trying to make most Linux distros do anything useful
Small correction,with "steam play/proton" enabled you CAN run directX games,just remember that anticheat may flag you in some cases. (And a bit of config may be needed) But after that,its great for gaming,i use it on my gaming PC so i dont need to use windows (dont like the OS) Also if you use lutris,you can even play games like overwatch and epic game store games (just keep anticheat in mind)
My favourite series 🙂 Like PS3 HEN, and it's advancements, I never really thought there would be a way to exploit the later revisions of the console, it's amazing what time and persistence can do, thanks MVG great as always
This video should probably be added to your "Console Security" playlist. I just watched the whole playlist, and this one only came up in the 'recommended' video list, not in the playlist itself. Great content, btw!
You mentioned "Ring oh mode" you've always been good about differentiating zero from oh (O). And while I feel like I'm nitpicking and while I still do the same thing myself. I feel it must be pointed out.
Love your videos man! You have the right knowledge base to explain and allow a deeper view into the hardware / software that is showcased in each video. Liked & Shared
This is all interesting, but could you do a video on Commodore 64 copy protection please? You covered a lot of systems so far, but the 8 bit computer legend wasn't on the list yet. Let's change that (-; - Wide head protection - Track synchronisation - Sync Counting - Special formatting (Custom Formats) e.g. using tracks with a non-standard header - Intentional Disk Errors - Track Skew - Fat Tracks - Half Tracks - Extra Tracks - Changed Bitrates - "Signatures" in the Header, Sector, or Tail gaps - Long Sectors - Long Tracks - Bad GCR/Unformatted/"Weak Bits" - Signature (Key) Tracks - No SYNC - "SpiraDisc" - Rapidlock pick one, or some, or all (: Let's do a poll, how many of your viewers would be interested in that kind of stuff? (my guess, the majority)
I guess you could say that _mistakes were made._ Also there is a high chance Sony will try to take this video down, so don't be intimidated by them. Even if you get a strike, you can fight it. Mankalor, a Mario Kart TH-camr, made a fantastic video about the process because Nintendo is doing the same thing.
it won't matter.. one ps4 market are going down... and you can still not able to play the game without bug... and alot ps4 need update... so what you going to get is so so game....
Sony don't care. They let the 6.72 exploit go public. I think their new way of dealing with exploits is much better than before. Patch and forget. Only new exploits that are under nda will get taken down (which he didn't display any so will be fine).
@@BigPandaGamer just wait until the PS4 become EOL. From what I've noticed on the last years hackers are waiting for that before releasing their exploits.
@@andremalerba5281 The current kernel exploit was supposed to be the EOL exploit, but theFlow disclosed it early. There was a group that knew about it for a few years. Now we just have to hope they were sitting on more than one kexploit or that someone can find another needle in the haystack.
Oblivian Andy you’d be surprised how useful it was since the PSP days... without it, it will make modding more tedious since most exploits are made through the internet browser.
You know, the really great part about Linux is that it's open source. If there's something you don't like about it, then change it. There's no excuse to dislike Linux when you have total control over it.
Awesome coverage as always, never owned a ps4 but I love the production quality here 😅 , can’t wait to see more coverage of the ps5 now that we’ve seen some real hardware shots (but no UI) . I’m still rooting for stadia lol they’ve got a lot to prove from where I’m standing now haha
I like this very much and your research is awesome. Could you make some more "how security was defeated" of retro consoles? Im rly interested in retro console hacking and liked all your retro console documentaries
I was always watching the whole PS4 Homebrew Scene since first known exploits (late 2015, 1.76 firm). When we found the 4.05 kernel exploits in 2018 January, I immediately bought a PS4 with compatible firmware. Still have the 5.05..
@@just-fun-stuff6753 I bought a ps4 mainly because of games like God Of War and Ghost Of Tsushima but I don't think the Xbox is as bad as some fanboys make it seem, matter of fact I think Xbox is pushing forward in every aspect of Gaming while Sony is being lazy and relying solely on Exclusives to keep their fans happy.
I just discovery last week that ps4 was quite hackable, when I was scrolling around youtube and Shesez started making videos of out of bounds PS4 exclusives. So I did my 3 minutes googling and your videos just came about to fullfil the gaps. I am impressed at how long this has being under the radar for most commonfolk like me. Great video all the best. I wonder if mistakes were made on XOne too... Maybe hackers are happy enough with how easy and supported by microsoft to make any machine as a dev mode console.
@@OscarOlim Which is part of the reason why it hasn't been hacked (in addition to the investment in making it impossible to hack for less than 600 dollars in gear per console), you can already do homebrew on it
Likely the first time many are finding out that the PS4 has been exploited. Great video, Will be waiting for your Xbox One Mistakes Were Made (MWM) video.
I think the Steam games aspect can be quite attractive. Sure you're probably better off getting either the official PS4 ports or getting a proper PC, but for those people out there who may not want to all out on a gaming pc this might be interesting. Maybe an in-depth video about it? Compatibility and what not.
I suppose with proper code signing crypto, the days of "clever subverting the security mechanism itself" are over, and it's now more of the accessory code providing the way around the security. Thanks for the vid!
It took Sony until June 2020 to get a public facing bug bounty program put together for the Playstation. If Sony takes it serious which I think they will, future exploits for the PS4 and PS5 being released to the public will be scarce since getting paid will be more enticing.
In my country, all modded versions of PS except PS5 are available. Bless those pirates. It must have saved me $1500+ in gaming. I thing it serves greedy behemoths right for overpricing their games. $60 for just 8-9 hour of a game is extreme of greediness.
I’d love to see Sony release a PS1/2 emulator with as many enhancements as possible, that can install games from disk. I think a good chunk of us would actually pay for it (since it would be from Sony). Sure that OS Now stuff seems to exist, but for some of us it’s, well, not as interesting :)
I think i used something like this in a security class to in order to pass the class with a solid A+ (was a linux kernel exploit that gave me root which i launched as a binary payload file which was executed from a class provided program that had a buffer overflow)
found it i think it was the one containing the substring `Ubuntu 16.04 local root exploit - netfilter target_offset OOB` its still not the exact one but i know it involved the netfilter
Imagine both Series X security & PS5 security are exploited? A power house PC for just $399 & $499. There will be huge home brew scene for the next generation of consoles because the hard ware is tempting.
Gunna take a guess, and say not good the PS4/Pro are like mid tier 2014 PC's using custom hardware so probably not very good I wonder what games would detect the specs as though...
@@0Synergy If my trashy Intel UHD 620 PC runs Proton/Wine really well then I believe the PS4 would run really damn good with some optimizations then even better
All I can say is it will run very well, considering how well Portal 2 ran on a OG PS4 hacked by fail0verflow at Console Hacking 2016, while it was on Gentoo Linux.
I was surprised to see you didn't mention that PS4 was technically fully owned at the SAMU level a while back, too. The people behind Save Wizard pretty much has to have SAMU Keys to do what they do. It's obviously not public but it's been done. Yeah, the PS4 scene is relatively weak but I think it has to do with more than piracy concerns. Honestly? This gen of consoles just aren't that interesting from a hacking and homebrew standpoint. PS3 can do almost everything PS4 does with homebrew, as well as WiiU. The device isn't a handheld and it's just not so powerful as to warrant deep interest, IMO. Handhelds and power bring interest and that's where I think the coming gen may shine. You get linux on a PS5 and you basically have a powerful PC to work with. Emulators up to Switch (Yuzu) will run on PS5 hardware. Steam will have no problem running just about any PC game it CAN run. Etc.
When the ps4 starts to die off I'll pick up a 2nd one cheap for homebrew. I dont condone piracy, but seeing how much stuff is digital (dlc and updates), Id like one to have for when Sony shuts down the store.
As long as hackers don't invade the online games, go for it. Ah. Modded PS3s including SuperSlim have the advantage imho, being able to do PS3 on top of PS2 (yes, the SuperSlim) and PS1.
You have such awesome content i could and probably have watched everything you've made so far. I remember you back from the Xbox homebrew scene dude you are a freakin legend. Keep up the good work,
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I think it would have taken longer if PT hadn't been taken down.
Whats PT?
Ya whats pt
@@AMalas silent hill player teaser
@@MoldyMcdonut silent hill player teaser
I’m still depressed that Silent Hill got cancelled, especially after playing P.T and loving it
Defeating console security gets harder every generation.
Meanwhile at Nintendo: WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY BROKE IN THROUGH THE JOYCON PORTS??
Oh and don't even get me started on their web browsers :)
@@AndrewKennethColborn *sweats in switch lite*
oHh nOoOOoOo
@DAudIcI I mean, smart TV vulnerabilities probably wouldn't get anyone's attention but an Android tablet it still an Android device. I wouldn't be happy if I found out there were security issues with my tablet just because of its hardware...
@@owowowdhxbxgakwlcybwxsimcwx first step? I don't want a first step, I hope systems keep having browser exploits :)
@DAudIcI I wasn't thinking about it in those terms, I was imagining exploits that could be done through software *due* to some kind of hardware vulnerability. Yeah, anything requiring physical access isn't too big of a deal (imo) as long as it's not as simple as "plug in this USB cable and everything is stolen".
Please never change the intro bgm. It's too iconic. Your videos don't have the same feeling without the classic intro bgm.
This. Never change the feel. Keep it grounded.
Also the ending
What's the name?
k0ujPhwlymk or modernvintagegamer.bandcamp.com/track/pacific-drive
True and True
I am not much of a gamer, but I love these video's on defeating the security.
Mistakes were made is lastly back, thank you
was going to say that too
That intro music too haha
I love every MVG video but the mistakes were made ones always interest me the most tbh. One of my favorites was also the Xbox 360 PartnerNet one too even tho that wasn’t a mistakes were made video lol
Remember, check your PS4 firmware version before updating. It's likely a hack for 7.02 will be found too
I'd like to see some on older consoles.
With the rise of consoles becoming more like PC's, its surprising that homebrew isn't as popular.
@Easy Boost nope
@Easy Boost true but consoles are more popular...the scene is always big ( and lately filled with unnecessary drama) for Nintendo systems
I never understood homebrew when you have a pc that could do it all so much better. I always looked at homebrew as an excuse for running pirated games.
@@sharinglungs3226
Because it's fun.
Sharing Lungs you can do all things in pc but that shit aint fun cuz u know pc can do everything but the console cannot do everything thinking it only makes me excited the fucking posibilities
While it's not that surprising since PS4 is essentially a x86 PC, I still find it fascinating to discover that it's able to run linux, install steam and have access to your steam library from PS4
It's not an x86 PC, it's just an x86 device, but it is not a PC as we know them. Porting Linux to the PS4 was actually a daunting task and required heavy modifications to the Linux kernel (even if it's x86, that's just the only similarity it has with PCs, everything else is completely different). There's a nice video of fail0verflow explaining this in much more detail.
@referral madness Much like PS5, PS4 is a x86 PC just really low end. $300 Compaq Presario shit that they trick the masses into buying.
Many Steam and Windows games runs natively on PS4 running Linux.
Its not quite the same as a pc... if you watch fail0verflow's breakdown video, they explain how it is different!
th-cam.com/video/VpB49dhk2uQ/w-d-xo.html
Check out an old video about PS4 hacking from CCC. PS4 is an x86 device with all usual legacy PC stuff removed. That's why Linux required major modifications to run on the PS4.
Interestingly, the chipset is an Marvell Armada ARM SoC running it's own custom OS.
"Sony likes to issue firmware updates long after the hardware's end of life"
Definitely true for the PSP and its 2015 6.61 Update haha (which got hacked the next day btw.).
yea and ps3 is getting updates in 2020
This is why i love playstation and the homebrew/jailbreak community.
Still better love story than twilight.
and the fact that the PS3 got a update in 2019
@@eepymeowers and 2020
@@morganpg i have one and it still gets updates to this day
Ahh yeah, mistakes were made
I know
Barely.
But not by Sony this time. All these exploits were public exploits in the open-source code that Sony used. Of course, the active security research scene around open-source gave Sony the ability to respond before an actual working exploit for their product was made. By the time the working exploit had been made, most of the consoles with the exploitable firmware had been sold to non-techie owners, and most of these owners had upgraded them as prompted, so good luck finding one.
yeah. i was made
People just can't get enough of "mistakes were made"
This!
The 'Mistakes were made'-series is the reason i subbed. Its awesome, and im looking forward to more videos!
Sony Logic: You can't jailbreak the PS5 if you can't get one.
*[STONKS]*
LOL...then how do they sell consoles?
Lol smort.
*PLAISTAYTCHUN*
@@Matanumi they are selling consoles, without having them
M I S T A K E S W E R E M A D E !
If only Sony spent as much time & effort in keeping their customer's financial data secured.
that was 10 years ago.....
@@andrew6978 And?
@@utubepunk means your comment is irrelevant
@@andrew6978 Shit, man. Ya got me. I'm in shambles. It's so irrelevant... yet here you are.
@Can a swallow swallow? 👍🏼
5:00 "Don not turn off the PS4"
🍩 turn off the PS4
Congrats on 500k!!!
I’ve your content man!
@hi there u dropped this: 🧂
@@androidmaster3369 lol yeah.
I’d suppose you were trying to be sarcastic since he hasn’t yet reached that amount now, let alone four months ago. In that case, that was pretty lame, not to say obviously disrespectful.
LoL meanwhile you haven't got over 11k views in 7 months😂😂 while he's now well over 500k subs
No matter how much they try, it is almost impossible to stop people from getting what they want
and i love that
I wish console manufacturers would release the "keys" to the console 5 years or so after, production, and support has officially ended Like, they pushed one final update that turned it into a developer unit.
Be pretty cool but as long as these old consoles have access to the companies' stores, there's no way it'll ever happen.
But then it would be very hard to make consoles backwards compatible with those consoles, since they could put fucked up data on the old console's disk/cart and do stuff with the new console.
@@Brick_Eater_ I guess they could. From a surface level, I can see how this would make sense.
But a developer unit is only for developing. When pressing a disc, or manufacturing a cartridge, there is a whole process. So when a console is made backwards compatible, theoretically it could run the program made on the post console death developer unit. But if there's no physical media for it to be drawn from with the new console, then what you have just listed is something that won't really be an issue.
Also, almost every console that has had disc based backwards compatibility (at least to my knowledge) has ran the previous gen software disc in a kind of sandbox mode. The Wii ran Gamecube games in a sandbox mode. The Wii U ran Wii games in a sandbox mode. The Xbox 360 runs Xbox games in a sandbox mode. You get the point. The only one I can think of that I'm not sure about it running in sandbox mode was the PS2 for PS1 discs. And I just don't know if it did or not, because I haven't looked into it enough.
@@RobertSeeJen yeah but the 3DS got hacked through the DS mode, albeit a little long after release. th-cam.com/video/ImR-TdDAIJE/w-d-xo.html
@@Brick_Eater_ That's fair. Lol. I've watched that video myself, but I totally forgot about that MSET exploit. That being said though. I feel that would be patched pretty quick. Much like how it was with the 3DS.
Ah, perfect timing for my lunch break!
Good stuff man, always informative and good content!
Cheers
What are you having for lunch?
How the sony playstation 5 security was defeated - 2028
i give it 2, 3 years tops...
the day after its launch....
That would be funny though :D
@NbAlIvEr100 What have preoders anything to do with a console security ?
2025**
@@A.Froster lol
Love these console security videos. You always explain things in a way that even a simpleton like me can follow.
And these videos are the reason why MVG is my favorite retro gaming channel. It's so well documented and put together, I really enjoy them a lot. Thanks a lot sir MVG !
I hope there will be more videos about PS4's Linux capability. I imagine as it gets phased out with the release of the PS5 more PS4s will be moded and Linux community around it will have a chance to grow. I like the idea of turning older hardware into useful mini PCs that can still do a decent amount of computing on the cheap for people who cant afford it.
My favorite thing is that everyone is a "security researcher". No one is a hacker.
It's like a bank robber is actually a "bank security researcher" :p
Kevin Mitnick, anyone?
Carlos Oyuela the art of deception...
Security researcher and hacker aren't mutually exclusive, one is more of a job-title
You need people to test security on systems..
EULA licensing should be considered illegal to enforce by most standards of property law anyhow..
so the researchers are testing the security of felony/copyright crossover and are winning
Hacker utillize security exploits, Security Researcher find those exploits
Really love these series of yours MVG. It is easy to understand and interesting. I’ve used lots of custom firmware in the 2000s and these vids of yours help me understand how it works.
This video goes someway to explain why when selling my PS4 on eBay, I was getting questions about firmware versions.
As I connected it for online services, I always kept it up to date.
9:55
That means ps4 gpu is capable of vulkan and drivers are in place.
Then what about DXVK? Looks like you could launch ANY non-dx12 title on that little box
that's exactly what I thought. would be interesting, especially considering how good has Lutris/DXVK got in the near past.
DXVK works just fine, and compatibility is quite high. I played a bunch of D3D11 games on my PS4 Pro, including Prey 2017 (th-cam.com/video/ITWMnxO0dKE/w-d-xo.html ) and Shadow Warrior 2. The biggest issue is slow CPU and 8GiB of shared RAM. I mostly used 5 GiB as main RAM and 3 GiB for graphics. Even more interesting you can use PSVR with SteamVR on PS4, because it is supported by OpenHMD.
Works.
th-cam.com/video/hhc9pBHjyf8/w-d-xo.html
@@gustavgurke9665 Probably because most of Linux gaming is half baked ports from other platforms and WINE.
@@gustavgurke9665 That being said the same games that have terrible native ports are original to Windows and also run just fine on there, without all the BS that comes with trying to make most Linux distros do anything useful
Small correction,with "steam play/proton" enabled you CAN run directX games,just remember that anticheat may flag you in some cases. (And a bit of config may be needed)
But after that,its great for gaming,i use it on my gaming PC so i dont need to use windows (dont like the OS)
Also if you use lutris,you can even play games like overwatch and epic game store games (just keep anticheat in mind)
Why you use cheats? To prove yourselfs re cobards?
@@Niñoratapuntapie Linux has no cheats, but anticheat flags it cause it's different than windows.
Someday they'll be able to crack all firmware versions...
...Someday
Probably in 5 or 6 years, just like the PS3
It will eventually happen , as it has been done for literally every sony console
@@striga314 how very correct you are, I've lost more than a couple ps3's. Now I tear down and clean out all my consoles every year.
@Locke der Boss that is not true.
Someday. Anything can be hacked with enough time and effort.
Ive waited forever for this episode!
My PS4 Pro is on 7.55 and will be staying there waiting for an exploit.
its always a good day when MVG releases a video about security
MVG: “The PlayStation 4 WAS a very secure piece of hardware”
Me: I like that
Love your detective work on these MVG! Fascinating part of consumer tech history and ingenuity of the hacking community
Finally TH-cam recommends newly posted videos rather than 5 years old ones.
Waited long for a new video like this! Stay awesome MVG :)
Love these videos. Hoping to hear more about homebrew on all consoles!
My favourite series 🙂
Like PS3 HEN, and it's advancements, I never really thought there would be a way to exploit the later revisions of the console, it's amazing what time and persistence can do, thanks MVG great as always
Love these security-defeated videos, Thanks for making them
Wasn't expecting this video, it's a beautiful day
Yeah me too, i just opened youtube, scrolled down and saw this, i this PS5 will be next.
This video should probably be added to your "Console Security" playlist. I just watched the whole playlist, and this one only came up in the 'recommended' video list, not in the playlist itself. Great content, btw!
You mentioned "Ring oh mode" you've always been good about differentiating zero from oh (O). And while I feel like I'm nitpicking and while I still do the same thing myself. I feel it must be pointed out.
I love this intro music. Sometimes I re-watch random MVG videos bc of the mood that music sets.
Love your videos man! You have the right knowledge base to explain and allow a deeper view into the hardware / software that is showcased in each video.
Liked & Shared
This is all interesting, but could you do a video on Commodore 64 copy protection please? You covered a lot of systems so far, but the 8 bit computer legend wasn't on the list yet. Let's change that (-;
- Wide head protection
- Track synchronisation
- Sync Counting
- Special formatting (Custom Formats) e.g. using tracks with a non-standard header
- Intentional Disk Errors
- Track Skew
- Fat Tracks
- Half Tracks
- Extra Tracks
- Changed Bitrates
- "Signatures" in the Header, Sector, or Tail gaps
- Long Sectors
- Long Tracks
- Bad GCR/Unformatted/"Weak Bits"
- Signature (Key) Tracks
- No SYNC
- "SpiraDisc"
- Rapidlock
pick one, or some, or all (:
Let's do a poll,
how many of your viewers would be interested in that kind of stuff?
(my guess, the majority)
I guess you could say that _mistakes were made._
Also there is a high chance Sony will try to take this video down, so don't be intimidated by them. Even if you get a strike, you can fight it. Mankalor, a Mario Kart TH-camr, made a fantastic video about the process because Nintendo is doing the same thing.
@D. Claiming false DMCA - which would be the case here - is a *criminal* federal offense. Just saying...
it won't matter.. one ps4 market are going down... and you can still not able to play the game without bug... and alot ps4 need update... so what you going to get is so so game....
Sony don't care. They let the 6.72 exploit go public.
I think their new way of dealing with exploits is much better than before. Patch and forget. Only new exploits that are under nda will get taken down (which he didn't display any so will be fine).
@@whuzzzup claiming one in bad faith is .
God I love the underline beat you are using on your channel. I wish there is a whole song of it haha
7.02 soon™
Just waiting on a userland exploit.
It very likely 7.02 will be hacked. Don't firmware update! Just be patient folks.
Any hope for 7.50? I kinda remember updating to play BB with a friend, after holding out for a looong time, and instantly regretting
there will always be hope, just need to wait
@@BigPandaGamer just wait until the PS4 become EOL.
From what I've noticed on the last years hackers are waiting for that before releasing their exploits.
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The current kernel exploit was supposed to be the EOL exploit, but theFlow disclosed it early. There was a group that knew about it for a few years. Now we just have to hope they were sitting on more than one kexploit or that someone can find another needle in the haystack.
Finally, I was waiting for this video for so long. Thanks MVG❤️❤️
That makes me scared that Sony might remove the browser altogether in PS5.
@Oblivian Andy are you new here
Oblivian Andy you’d be surprised how useful it was since the PSP days... without it, it will make modding more tedious since most exploits are made through the internet browser.
Maybe they'll use internet explorer instead. Lmao
@@GoTeamScotch now that would be amazing
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they did, I mean the Switch *still* doesn't have a general purpose web browser for what I assume is that very reason.
Thank you for this video! I had no idea the PS4 had been able to run homebrew and its security was broken, and i've had the system since launch day.
You know, the really great part about Linux is that it's open source. If there's something you don't like about it, then change it. There's no excuse to dislike Linux when you have total control over it.
Thanks for the interesting content, I usually skip commercials but with these vids I don't hope it helps.
Awesome coverage as always, never owned a ps4 but I love the production quality here 😅 , can’t wait to see more coverage of the ps5 now that we’ve seen some real hardware shots (but no UI) . I’m still rooting for stadia lol they’ve got a lot to prove from where I’m standing now haha
I LIKE that it didn't use fuses that would blow... means USERS have more control over the hardware they bought.
I like this very much and your research is awesome. Could you make some more "how security was defeated" of retro consoles? Im rly interested in retro console hacking and liked all your retro console documentaries
I was always watching the whole PS4 Homebrew Scene since first known exploits (late 2015, 1.76 firm). When we found the 4.05 kernel exploits in 2018 January, I immediately bought a PS4 with compatible firmware. Still have the 5.05..
Ps5 after 2 weeks of launching
MVG: Mistakes were made
Edit: Ps5 was a mistake
I hope so
@@TombstoneChris that would probably kill the ps5, but as an Xbox Nintendo Fanboy i couldnt Care less
@@just-fun-stuff6753 I'm the same. I haven't been a PlayStation guy since the PlayStation 2.
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I bought a ps4 mainly because of games like God Of War and Ghost Of Tsushima but I don't think the Xbox is as bad as some fanboys make it seem, matter of fact I think Xbox is pushing forward in every aspect of Gaming while Sony is being lazy and relying solely on Exclusives to keep their fans happy.
@@HandheldGamingHQ exactly, I think they got comfortable with the ps4
so close to 500k! 1 Mil is right around the corner MVG, well done.
The thumbnail should say “MISTAKES WERE MADE” to carry on tradition
Yes! Been waiting for this video!
9:47 Games using DirectX still may work under x86 Linux, using Steam's compatibility tool. GTA V is one of them.
I just discovery last week that ps4 was quite hackable, when I was scrolling around youtube and Shesez started making videos of out of bounds PS4 exclusives. So I did my 3 minutes googling and your videos just came about to fullfil the gaps. I am impressed at how long this has being under the radar for most commonfolk like me. Great video all the best. I wonder if mistakes were made on XOne too... Maybe hackers are happy enough with how easy and supported by microsoft to make any machine as a dev mode console.
"How the Xbox One security was defeated"
Probably never. Never seen system so resilient before
They designed it so thst it couldn't be hacked for less than $600
Actually Xbox One supports homebrew in a way. Anyway can set their console to develop mode and install unsigned apps.
@@OscarOlim Which is part of the reason why it hasn't been hacked (in addition to the investment in making it impossible to hack for less than 600 dollars in gear per console), you can already do homebrew on it
@@sundhaug92 yeah no need to hack something that supports home-brew out of the box
@@sundhaug92 What tool that lets you hack it costs $600?
Likely the first time many are finding out that the PS4 has been exploited.
Great video, Will be waiting for your Xbox One Mistakes Were Made (MWM) video.
I think the Steam games aspect can be quite attractive. Sure you're probably better off getting either the official PS4 ports or getting a proper PC, but for those people out there who may not want to all out on a gaming pc this might be interesting.
Maybe an in-depth video about it? Compatibility and what not.
Dude, I've been waiting for another episode for ages. LOVE THE CONTENT MAN!
2027: How the Sony Playstation 5 Security Was Defeated
*2021
I suppose with proper code signing crypto, the days of "clever subverting the security mechanism itself" are over, and it's now more of the accessory code providing the way around the security. Thanks for the vid!
He wrote an exploit for the ps4 5.05 update called "the ps4 5.05 exploit."
I see what he had in hacking skills he lacked in creativity.
Been waiting for this one 😁
It took Sony until June 2020 to get a public facing bug bounty program put together for the Playstation. If Sony takes it serious which I think they will, future exploits for the PS4 and PS5 being released to the public will be scarce since getting paid will be more enticing.
Great video. Up until watching this I didn't even know that any current gen consoles aside from the switch had been hacked. The more you know.
In my country, all modded versions of PS except PS5 are available. Bless those pirates. It must have saved me $1500+ in gaming. I thing it serves greedy behemoths right for overpricing their games. $60 for just 8-9 hour of a game is extreme of greediness.
When I hear that music hit, I know something's about to go down lol. Oh btw, congrats on being soooo close to 500k! Well deserved!
Am I the only one congratulating him on 500k? 🤔
Ive been hoping for a video on this subject. Your security videos are my favorite
Weirdly enough, I literally just sold my PS4 today to make way for the PS5. I miss my buddy already. That's all I have to add to this discussion.
Same here. Sold my slim ps4
Help me sell my Slim too🙏😅
My PS4 has a defective eject disc button so I'll be keeping it.
Why would you do that shit? I always keep my tech instead of selling it. Smh.
Nice coverage, MUG ! 👍
Soon: “How the PS5 security was defeated by a small plastic fork”
"How the PS6 security was defeated with a 20-sided die"
i am waiting for that video
@@supernintendo182 "A Nat 20! Now play this cracked *insert crappy AAA game series title here* for me"
Don't forget the one model with 2TB storage (the 500 Million edition). Great vid; thanks!!! And don't forget about backporting!
I’d love to see Sony release a PS1/2 emulator with as many enhancements as possible, that can install games from disk. I think a good chunk of us would actually pay for it (since it would be from Sony). Sure that OS Now stuff seems to exist, but for some of us it’s, well, not as interesting :)
I'd rather have the emulator build in the console but that you can put your ps1/ps2 discs in a ps5 and just play it
Honestly. The PS5 could definitely emulate PS1 games and has the power to run PCSX2 for example, don’t see why they don’t
@@3jake5mee cuz their idiots they would rather charge you for PS2 games like they did on the PS4
Why wud anyone buy that shit
Another amazing video. 499K subscribers going onwards to 500k soon! Best of luck!
To play the latest games you need to update to the latest firmware which is then not jail breakable. It's far from being defeated.
yep, clickbait title, smh.
Yeah I had no clue that the homebrew scene was so active! Might get one now just to play around with it some.
I think i used something like this in a security class to in order to pass the class with a solid A+ (was a linux kernel exploit that gave me root which i launched as a binary payload file which was executed from a class provided program that had a buffer overflow)
That is awesome dude! I'm a Linux fan myself, and that sort of thing just makes me so happy! Really wanna see your work some day
i know it was when exploit db looked like this web.archive.org/web/20181004151223/www.exploit-db.com/
found it i think it was the one containing the substring `Ubuntu 16.04 local root exploit - netfilter target_offset OOB` its still not the exact one but i know it involved the netfilter
@@ViZageFader well i try to keep it off the radar if i can because I no pro im mainly good at doing research based upon info i can gather from a host.
Imagine both Series X security & PS5 security are exploited? A power house PC for just $399 & $499. There will be huge home brew scene for the next generation of consoles because the hard ware is tempting.
I wonder how Proton/Wine runs on that.
Gunna take a guess, and say not good the PS4/Pro are like mid tier 2014 PC's using custom hardware so probably not very good I wonder what games would detect the specs as though...
@@0Synergy If my trashy Intel UHD 620 PC runs Proton/Wine really well then I believe the PS4 would run really damn good with some optimizations then even better
he showed linux gaming in use, dont know if he ran any winblows only games though, i mostly play older stuff on my aging hardware.
I thought the steamplay thingy he showed was basically just that
All I can say is it will run very well, considering how well Portal 2 ran on a OG PS4 hacked by fail0verflow at Console Hacking 2016, while it was on Gentoo Linux.
We've certainly come quite a ways from disc swap exploits and quick hardware hacks like you said haha.
Makes me feel old..
I was surprised to see you didn't mention that PS4 was technically fully owned at the SAMU level a while back, too.
The people behind Save Wizard pretty much has to have SAMU Keys to do what they do. It's obviously not public but it's been done.
Yeah, the PS4 scene is relatively weak but I think it has to do with more than piracy concerns. Honestly? This gen of consoles just aren't that interesting from a hacking and homebrew standpoint. PS3 can do almost everything PS4 does with homebrew, as well as WiiU.
The device isn't a handheld and it's just not so powerful as to warrant deep interest, IMO.
Handhelds and power bring interest and that's where I think the coming gen may shine. You get linux on a PS5 and you basically have a powerful PC to work with. Emulators up to Switch (Yuzu) will run on PS5 hardware. Steam will have no problem running just about any PC game it CAN run. Etc.
Yeah, hope the next gen gets hacked soon..
"Exploit by Al Azif" can't say I expected to see a Demonbane reference here of all scenes.
Whenever I hear this music I know that it's the sound of a hardware manufacturer's heart breaking.
It gets even better, when searching gbatemp and github you'll find ways of running GB GBC and GBA games natively without the use for emulation
When the ps4 starts to die off I'll pick up a 2nd one cheap for homebrew. I dont condone piracy, but seeing how much stuff is digital (dlc and updates), Id like one to have for when Sony shuts down the store.
Been waiting for this for a long time, my friend.
I really like the homebrew scene on the PC. Easier to deal with.
I always find this kind of topic interesting and the main reason I subbed to you!
apparently you can install homebrew apps on the XBOX ONE via "Dev Mode"
Yeah you can, its pretty simple - just pay for the dev mode
You are amazing man, Just dont stop. Please
microsoft "we have made an unhackable system"
"uhhmm. buckle up boys"
More like not as desirable for hackers
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As long as hackers don't invade the online games, go for it.
Ah. Modded PS3s including SuperSlim have the advantage imho, being able to do PS3 on top of PS2 (yes, the SuperSlim) and PS1.
ps2 emulation is terrible for the ps3. Sure certain games run, but the good exclusives and first party titles dont run well
You have such awesome content i could and probably have watched everything you've made so far. I remember you back from the Xbox homebrew scene dude you are a freakin legend. Keep up the good work,